#calamity-update-talk
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that one might get to have arena blocks added to it next changelog
well, it wasn't listed but it's dying as part of the clone/scal changes
I just forgot to remove from code
should I drop a spoiler spoiler
sure
Spoiler: I am planning a spoiler for one month (and two days) from now
maybe one month and one day
depends on my schedule
clock's ticking
Spreading the Holiday Cheer, I see
Actually the plan I have now would be a double spoiler
but only if it gets approved
maybe even a triple spoiler if I'm feeling generous
too bad
just throwin it out there
That's a lot harder to make happen
mostly because it has to actually get planned and recorded by multiple people
i meant just a wall of text discussing progress on sso
instead of Collect My Spoilers
oh too bad
best we got is #changelogs
which developer do you think enjoys ranting the most
hooray
part of me wants to show off Saros Possession against scal
but I can't
Scal arena is staying on lockdown
what if i found a key and unlockdowned it
saros possession is definitely my favorite item in Calamity again now though
I missed it
losing the slot scaling took it from awesome to mid (but I still loved it)
There is the Removals section of the in-house changelog doc
WE, yes WE ALL love old duke in calamity spoiler talk ❤️
You’re a dev too
Oh nvm I’m blind
he who arts in heaven
I can’t do it here :(
Tragedy
omg me 😊

night guardians theme leaked
can you add a voice line that says "guard this"
Rebounding Rainbow rename ideas
- Diffraction Halo
- Scintillating Halo
- Stellar Glare
i like naming things.
rebounding rainbow is such a nothingburger name
if the weapon name doesn't require a google search its not a good weapon name /j
but seriously, rebounding rainbow is such low hanging fruit for such an important weapon
diffraction halo is a term for ts
hello diffraction halo
send the person who made rebounding rainbow back to the mines
for 12 days and feed them exclusively with dead lobsters
moon walkers:
can i go
lobster yummy
fym it's peak
runners
moonwalking pun

what if your character eternally walked backwards while you had them equipped
thatsb good
gfb change

Clock is ticking
how do i genuinely suggest diffraction halo as a rename
why are there 2 halos and an aureus tier weapon name
cause i thought halo could sound good on two different ones. the stellar one probably shouldn't be elemental lol
if i had to submit one it would be Diffraction Halo
Si
i know what you are
WE know what you are

Si, ive had it for two years
yk i respect the commitment
moon walkers is fire
interstellar stompers on the other hand draws my rage
why is that, it literally stomps in interstellar 
fryzah
gotta be real i think it's better than [random word] tracer
i mean they're "[heaven-related word] tracer" but the entire line has nothing to do with heaven
except like elysian wings for elysian tracer
gotta be realer i'd accept elemental tracers with less backlash about it
is starboard celestial because its [heaven-related thing]
i mean if you consider the moon "heaven"
except in calamity i'd assume the dragon aerie's the heaven
so that could make it fit
i remember seraphim being some reviving guy so i wont say anything about seraph tracers
as for celestial tracers they def could use a better rename
seraph is the word for like high-leveled angel or something
nah pretty sure the high levels are just called arch-angels
yeah
which is peak honestly
aint know nothing about christianity
good name as well
archangel is the second lowest
that is why i say if you trust google AI
probably would need someone more fond of this
well we got angel treads and seraph tracers so arch-angel something would be pretty lame as an accessory name by now
maybe smth like Heavenly Wanderers but with a better second word
heavenly jordans

heaven-sent clogs
devious michaels
moccasins of the cosmos
petition for a mod to rename all boots accessory name to have "jordans" replace "boots", "tracer" whatever
St peter's sandals
that might be even doable with texture packs
texture pack is plenty for vanilla items but not modded item
seraph is higher than archangel
iirc
either that or they're entirely unrelated titels
Pretty sure it's like
Seraph
Throne
Cherub
Archangel
Angel
there's more types than that but those are the 5 most known and 5 I remember off the top of my head
I could be way off though my religion doesn't subscribe to this type of angelology
ok I was mostly right enough
what is this
Tracers resprite
oh damn
Waos
Yep
Each govern an aspect of existence or play a different role in the hierarchy
For example, Principalities are the protectors of nations, governments and institutions
angelology is so interesting because I have literally 0 idea how it fits into my religion
like my religion has precedence for different types of angels but it's just never talked about
hello, a question Is there any way to increase the probability of the cloud elemental appearing?
Rainstorm and zerg potion
As someone who's theoretically Catholic, nobody speaks about this either lol
And in my opinion it's the coolest aspect of Catholic lore
yeah but at least there's something about it if you dig... mine (latter-day saints) have literally nothing about it
ty
We do have other cool beliefs on angels
but there is 0 explanation in my religion for why Michael is an? the? archangel
i like how this evolved from a rename dislike to exploring the catholic lore 
or there's no indication of any difference between Thrones, Seraphim, or Cherubim. Dominions, Powers, Virtues, and Principalities aren't even recognized as angels
actually I don't think they're even recognized as like ever referring to specific beings
I see
It's kinda lame how common worship focuses heavily on saints
Though it is interesting to delve into their mortal life
ig its just easier to worship smth thats more understandable or familiar
There's also uh
A lot of saints
So it becomes hard to include even more beings
Even saint worship usually limits itself to the big names and the city/state/country patron
Oh when the saints go marching in
Moon walkers is a good name because it's a silly pun and more weapons should have silly puns as their name instead of being something turbo serious and complicated
If I use the Deep Diver and the Ankh Shield, which dash should I prioritize? I want the Deep Diver for its dash, but I also have the Ankh Shield, so I have no idea.
It also probably causes a lot more friction with some other churches than it should
ankh doesn't give a dash
that's a #calamity-mod-talk or #help-advice-read-pins type question but also they're literally entirely different niches so it's up to your preference
oh srry, i didn´t see
my bad
I don't know when I clicked this chat lol
At least with my church, a lot of members misunderstand saint worship due to its name and think it breaks God's commandment to not worship things other than him
when, at least to my understanding of it, the way worship is being used in each scenario isn't quite the same
damn you protestant reformation making everything so fucking confusing
my church probably makes that worse!
restorationist churches tend to be even more different
i get that the catholic church fucking sucks but also do we really need 700 different churches
it makes sense due to the five Solas of protestantism
the huh
I think it was those
either way protestants have a very strong belief that the actual church itself isn't very relevant, just your relationship with christ
ok it looks like they're real things but to avoid giving myself a strong case of religious advertisements i will not continue to google it
AI summary go (this is accurate to my knowledge)
these 5 things are the core things that make Protestantism different than Catholicsm and Restorationist churches
but because it's based on scripture alone, by faith alone, through Christ alone, the specific church doesn't matter so there's 7000 of them
by faith alone is a big one that separates protestant from Catholicism and Restorationist churches, as both say that baptism, for example, is necessary
this silly michael jackson pun would do wonders on gravistar sabaton-like item instead of celestial tracers
no
it's perfect for where it is
Have you seen the sprite it currently has from asset submission
no
I only have the wingless version on hand
Lemme see if I can find the winged one
There now it's just the image
Kinda sad that its likely not getting used
these being called Moon Walkers makes so much sense
I don't expect tracers to be done before 2.1
they have a lot of work to be done still
chances are this sprite gets in
honestly better than the crystal version style-wise
I don't love the actual player wings a ton tbh but the boot itself is great
I do also really like the crystal one but I don't like it losing the impact of Moon Walkers
i'd love the crystal one if it was like
soul of cryogen
or some shit
anything crystal-related
What I'd do
it makes sense for the elemental set
I'd make the wings like tentalces
which is what it was based on
Because moonlord
i have no idea where the elemental set is coming from aside from the post-ml weapons and the two melee-ranged post-devourer accessories
i'm still preferring the og celestials but between the lunar and crystal variants i'd pick the first one tbh
the post ml weapons yeah
Elemental Gauntlet and Quiver were designed to match them I think but they're not really part of the set
2.1
well ngl og celestial tracers but recolored would fit the elemental line more than that crystal resprite
not saying that it shouldnt get changed but the way that it can end up looking it might get even further from looking like a part of the elemental set
i thought we were past the whole idea of having "sets"
you kind of do need sets at least a little bit in a mod like cal tbh
they should be way smaller than they currently are tho
I mean yeah having sets is a given, even vanilla has them
There's nothing wrong with Having sets the problem is the fact calamity sets are so big yeah
and the idea that you need to conform to a specific sets's aesthethics with an item
like calamity sets feel the need to have Everything basically
magic weapon. summon weapon. spear. sword. gun. bow. fishing rod. helmet for every class. acessory. wings
^
Will demonshade be better than exo armor
Nobody has any idea
Nobody knows
Because they will be same tiers
I hope the melee class makes a change to the number of weapons it has.
The melee class is quite saturated with weapons. When you defeat a boss, i don't remember which boss it was, you can create 11 new melee weapons, and those 11 didn't fit in the top 10 slots of the inventory lol
no
Plenty of melee weapons are being removed in the future yes
Not half the class but just a the really unnecessary ones
Like
Enforcer
everyones favorite weapon astral blade
Why remove content already added
kozz
You are the oppenheimer
they, for once, kinda actively serve as a detriment to the gameplay experience
After you defeat the next boss, the 11 weapons you made previously will no longer be used, because you create a tier of more powerful weapons by defeating the next boss
No ideally make all 11 weapons
ideally remove every weapon from the mod
calamity now is a mod focused exclusively on overhauling the fishing system
and adding old duke
nothing else
Everyone's favorite enemy scorn eater
Calamity Overhaul
Kiri no
like its one thing for a weapon to be bad, that much is acceptable, doesnt really make the overall game experience worse because you can just not use it
but when there are as many weapons as melee has? yeah it absolutely moves into the territory of now it starts making the overall gameplay experience worse
sea overhaul
dont diss scorn eater
Keeping the most important things 🙏
No
hes one of the like 6 post ml enemies hes a warrior
yall are just salty scorn eater is the only threatening post ml enemy 🙄
The only enemy in post ML
scorn eater is the only post ml enemy
Will my favourite enemy armored digger get a rework and exclusive drops
Scorn eater slowing sinking because contact change
postgame scorn eater upgrade please
Tremor boss
when the block of melee weapons on the wiki looks like this and has i believe more weapons than the one calamity added class its a massive issue
Isn't it have always been like that since forever
compare it to the ranger one
ranged is also bad i remember it being a lot better in the past what the fuck happened
are bosses being reworked next update?
It’s pretty bad
one boss
if youre counting minibosses, three
at least one boss is fully reworked, doze did a whole lot of touchups on other bosses too
desert scourge, cnidrion, king clam
ah thank you
BoC incoming
rev+ boc rework is pretty big too, makes the boss not actively painful to look at
Can't wait to play it then, a fresh change of pace would be nice for calamity
minor reworks are SG, Golem, Ravager, CV, Cal Clone, Scal
Major are DS, Cnidrion, Clam, DoG, BoC
Clam (normal)
gecko scourge 🩷
calclones doesnt even count as a rework does it
Small clam rework
its just
NO
in a box now
its more of just an single addition
Small things can really change how the gameplay feel
yeah but its also not a rework
Don't care
Just say notable boss adjustment/improvement
I'm listi mg them in 1 line
the boss isnt changed the boss just has a box
its doing the same stuff it did before its just contained in a box now
😴
isn't the only rav change that the walls have collision again
Going to amogus everyone in the room
not "again" but also no there are some other minor improvements outside of the walls actually being walls now
What you mean again it never has collision
or damage or whatever
I usually create all the weapons to test them. Personally, i only use two weapons in combat
they dont have damage in the new version either iirc
they're just pseudo tile entities
Good
@dull heart confusion
All of these options are available and I'm gonna fucking test them all
What's I'm playing the fucking game for
but yeah doze did some other stuff aside from just making the walls function in a way that makes them actually walls iirc
what
there's some other differences too but not major enough to be a rework
Cnidrion counts?
it sucsk right now but its gonna be an actual fight with the rework so
what are you changing about ravager walls
they are now solid to the player
can't be ran through
is the main thing
some other smaller changes to walls
and uhh
take extra damage from pickaxe right
Is the phase slayer rework coming with yharim update
and then changes to ravager himself to make up for wall changes
Phaseslayer is not related to Yharim
it's coming in the dedicated phaseslayer update
And it's dying
Why are they doing this
it bad
Well, surviving for 1 more patch or more because doze had ideas for it
Yharim in 10 years
Also actively harming irl
Someone should do a challenge run where they only use phase slayer to beat calamity
carpal tunnel
i dont have the screenshot but theres an image out there of cit after testing it and his wrist was beet red
nobody wanted to test it again after that
I wish I was so optimistic
it immediately went to z tier
Isn't carpal tunnel only cause by repeatedly clicking?
Phaseslayer is all about moving no?
repeated small wrist movements
including clicking
Fucking minmaxxing Phaseslayer with tiny ass circle drawing
They should keep phase slayer
I’m happy
it has a mechanic where the closer your cursor is to the center of the screen the less damage it does
you have to do big circles
how some people describe scorn eater
just how many anti fun mechanics can one item have,,,,
phaseslayer is brimstone because of how one has to use it
its design is good tho
whats wrong with phaseslayer ?
carpal tunnel
i think rebounding rainbow should be called Diffraction Halo instead :)
very sadge that it's been like, one and a half months since the last item spoiler in #spoilers
call it star shredder to fit in better with samsara slicer and celestus 
call it anything but rebounding rainbow lmfao
diffraction halo
i know what a diffraction halo is
stellar shredder's not bad ngl
i like diffraction halo
i feel like
elemental weapons are specifically light focused
in their naming conventions
eh
as opposed to stars, which are more astral's thing
superradiant, lightspeed,
what about augur of the void, vanishing point and legion of celestia
do u think particle cascade would be a cool name for a different weapon
or nucleosynthesis
vanishing point is technically light related but more of a perspective thing
auger of the void i just cant explain lmao
not really directly light related, it just is a perspective thing
legion of celestia is probably just an mlp reference or something
yeah
i dunno
a vanishing point is not a property of light
its a little annoying that the elemental weapons like
really dont have a unifying naming convention
well to be fair neither does miracle matter
but it also means like gooby glooper is a viable name
i think we should change elemental disk to gooby glooper
thats true i agree
goofy goober
star shredder is decent but i think a different first word should be used
stellar i dont feel fits
i dunno i guess the hodgepodgeyness kinda makes it more fun
like each one is unique to the class instead of just being part of a set
gives them more character i guess
diffraction halo is pretty much my best contribution
that or scintillating halo
i think it should be named wulfrum disc
i originally wanted to rename it scintilla shredder but people kept telling me scintilla is just dust (even though it more means spark, and scintillation is like shimmering)
what about renaming it to refraction rotor 
i thought about that as well lmfao
personally i still think scintilla shredder is a cool name but i get that it doesn't make a ton of sense at face value
there aren't any rogue disk weapons called Wheel
i think that would be cool
wheel of fortune
also the pirates should drop a rogue weapon that's a boat steering wheel
type shit
accretion disk
excellent
but im pretty sure thats already being used for like
astral something
scintillating wave
im ngl im still attached to that word
i think its cool as shit
Beat
wait
waiting
accretion disk was the old name of elemental disk lol
lmfao
Naming it star related stuff would conflict with astra lI thin
wh6yd they even change it.,.,.
yeahhhh the line is thin
but i agree
phase shifter
particle cascade
photoviscerator
celestus
supernova
wulfrum disk
steering wheel
bearing
dynamo
galaxy spiral
dynamo could be cool if it wasn't like already taken
i don't think dymano is taken
oh wait im thinking of
dynamic pursuer
Pointcloud
something
pointcloud is a cool word
probably would not work though
aperture
protostellar aperture
like uhhhh

you don't need to fragment your messages so much man
i dunno my best ones are still
Scintillating Wave
Diffraction Halo
Beamsplitter Prism
got it boss
Why not
just don't need to
yo done what u think of these names
clutters up chat or whatever
Will they add travelling to other continents with different bosses and npcs and structures and biomes
do you think Beamsplitter Prism is good
idk
Is it a prism
i mean the blade parts are all gem like on the other ones
idk
i think we should call it the laser
this prism sure does split my beams
it will stand for: light assortment superfluous easy relinquish
This prism might just be the last one
first prism
this is for upcoming updates
there aren't even any cutscenes in calamity currently
if youve seen any its from addons
Yeah i wanna show the infernum prov cutscene
wrong channel 💀
all of this discussion of elemental Disk renames
too bad I like rebounding rainbow more
it also fits with superradiant slaughterer well
There’s like one person who is discussing it
shh
Wulfrum dog when
that's what it should be called i think
but like it's still the same weapon
and part of the elemental set
and has elemental aesthethics
dosent use wulfrum in its recipe or anything
Calamitous disk
Call it wolfram sword instead

This is @fringe quiver’s fault
is tonguesten the wulfrum equivalent of tungsten and wolfram
Freaky metal
true
Tupid
🍅
Hi
The spoil... is here?

thank god that's not me!
would hate to be that girl

Evil wizard spells
Big fan of this GIF
chat where are the spoilers
hidibg
uhhhhh i guess i've been working on new sound stuff for cal clone today
cal clone is gonna have a bunch of new sounds for the fight since i thought they needed some work
multiple people make sounds for calamity
i see
i've started making sfx for the mod since i primarily do music stuff
i wanted to delve into making sound effects tho since i thought it could be a fun new venture for me
Why is the tornado hitbox so big 😭
compensating for something?
compensating for something?
I have an amazing spoiler but I don't know if I should show it
peak message tbh
im rotating melonius axiom and doze
What the shit

isnt tungsten wolfram in german
any guesses on how rogue elemental weapons could look like? (i mean the dominant class fragment colors)
uhhhhhh if we go by what iban did then like red-pink (?)
makes sense
elemental dye will also get orchid as part of its color cycle in SSO
Oooh thats cool
May i ask for sumonner colors??
huh
Oh i see
melee being orange and aote being more red 💔
wait huh it is orange it always looked red to me
it feels like a blend between these 2 colors
i love bluer
teal is peam
heavenly gale should be teal.....
sfx work is underappreciated in development circles sometmes i feel
Or atleast from a like general community reception perspective
i saw fom in versions of blue-pink and blue-yellow and i dont know whether these palettes are scrapped or no
tbf its not as exciting as like cool art or cool music on a surface glance but damnnn it goes a long way
sfx can help alot in some scenarios like
in hollow knight the flukes's sfx singlehandedly make them one of the most disgusting enemies ive ever seen
if it wasnt for the sfx theyd be NOWHERE near as disturbing imo. weird? yeah, definitely weird, a bit icky, but nothing crazy. just weird lookin worms
but the sfx are so fucking good in the worst way possible they managed to make them audibily disgusting and gross and nasty
moonburn the absolute goat
supernova sounds my beloved
pbg spawn sound ❤️
when will pbg get deleted its around same level of usefulness as phaseslayer
Btw five classes remind me of five elements of nature, by that i mean water, fire, earth, air and aether so it basically aligns perfectly with "elemental" theme lol
reworked starmada sounds ❤️
aether is a traditional element?
its a mod for minecraft
so you basically make a nether portal out of glowstone blocks
superradiant slaughterer is. an interesting name in and of itself
lol
bro thinks he's on the team
The 5th element of nature, in ancient times people called the void in the universe like this
nope, and im a girl
The guy from Genshin Impact

garbo was referencing aether you mentioned
garbo meant aether
aether is the bro who thinsk hes on the team
Garbo thinks he's on the team too don't worry
OOOH NVM MB
He hasn't noticed the 4 tons of TNT under his desk
brilliance
i made some too
they are implemented :3
replace yharim with kars from jjba and add him as the true final boss
jojo mentioned 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
fr! but they can be super fun to make, at least imo
moonburn helped me make sfx for a quad barrel acid shotgun that an oc uses
i did it myself but she helped me tweak it n such
Calamity mod spoiler
cit just ended global suffering
he will be regarded as a saint for the rest of time
it's ok i can fix that
it was not forgotten
i do not know why but it wasn't included on purpose for some reason iirc
if being unable to easily merge it is the issue then it’d take like 10 minutes to manually do it at most
but guess what! skyline wings get to not suck again
heresy
It has never been forgotten
calamity sharknado dlc
It's not merged because it's too tied into sweeping fishing changes I've said this several times
calamity x sharknado x archie comics when
That's a pretty random request but when the pulse rifle gets "resprited" can we please increase the charge consumption from 0.24 to 0.25
(I've just remembered that the charge is being removed but still
)
Calamity x sonic the hedgehog
How many years ago is that from?
less than one
does deshayy mean the searing pan got shot
I wish anyone else requested punch card 💔
i mean, there was no one else on the dev team who is nearly as strongly associated with it 
i spent like, 3 hours working on it, do i hold strong association 
calamity fans when one of their developers gets exposed (this means they get a new mini update)
Does this mean changelog was yesterday
true, lets kill people to get more updates (they are only fixes)
i'll kill a hundred developers to get master death hotfixed out of the game
mr waternoose? is that you?
yes

didn't Cal Clone get new sfxs a while ago
some yeah
none of her attacks besides dash have custom sounds
i think it was all just cataclysm
cal clone love ❤️🔥
bullet hell ending 🗣️
I have a banger idea
What if we recoloured eoc for every boss and called it a clone of the boss and that would double the boss amount
peak
calamitas clone clone
Nautilus
After
Nots
Irviving

if this happened there would be two bosses that could be considered a clone of a clone
one would be wrong and would give away that you're an old-lore-head
Folly is not a clone anymore I think
i love seeing people call yharon a jungle dragon because it just reveals they havent played calamity in at least 3 years
or havent paid attention
I mean its also the name of his theme which is probably more popular than the mod itself
roar of the biome-neutral dragon
im pretty sure that most cal players don't really pay much attention to the bosses
fair enough
Are you even playing calamity if you don’t fight yharon in the jungle every playthrough
the only thing inside their heads are attack patterns and the class setups wiki page
can confirm
no, they don't know the attack pattens bc they don't really pay attention to the boss
because fabsol design just encourages them to run away at mach 10
I literally watched a streamer do this exact same thing like last year and they're an old head
Roar of the Gender Neutral Dragon
roar of the no-longer-jungle dragon
roar of the dragon
Roar of the dragon
Fuck garbo beat me
haha snail
roar
x3
Dragon of the Jungle Roar
Roar of the resplendent phoenix
🧅
Roaring Knight of the Jungle
roar of the last dragon 
rawr of the jungle dragon
king of the junjle
Why doesn’t leviathan look like the guys from subnautica
why doesnt leviathan look like the guy from ultrakill
Onb
because the guy from subnautica is a human diver not a giant fish smh
Why dont you look like aureus
Why does the Leviathan look like me
i do
Because you are silva
i think you need to take some anti bloating treatments
why is there so few metal gear rising references in this mod please add more
Does draedon have a son if he made the nanomachines
No, we are going to remove all of them because no #fun allowed
how'd the song be called if it was composed in modern day calamity? Roar of the resplendant phoenix or sum?
Ygs should remove every reference ever because calamity mod is surely a very serious mod
yaaaaay
fuck murasama
WHY THE FUCKING DOC DEOSN'T LET ME SUGGEST SHIT
this is a good idea
what the fuck is has reached the limity like whatthe fuck
silencing kiri is good
🥀
google the multibillion dollar company cant let us deny suggestions from 2 years ago so 1.02 million character doc limit strikes again
i might just turn off commenter perms since the editors cant even see them lmao

but thats for another day
Fuck you die die die
glorp
Fuck you
kiri explain to me whats changing with ambergris
i swear to god if you just say the resprite
So, as I heard Magnomaly cannon will not be a rocket launcher anymore?
okay good
generally buffed and visual upgrades
replaced by a saw launcher thats the upgrade to the superradiant slaughterer
not in sso
Rip rocketeer subclass☠️
supererradient slaughtererer
Hyperradiant Slaughterer.
Though I personally liked it
I think it should be a NEW weapon, and leave a rocket launchers for those who like rockets
one of the exo weapons is gonna take magnomaly's place as the rocket launcher
its not like
its gone forever
why is the fishing rods section so detailed 😭
Yes.
Words
Uh iam a fish hi
Dinner
Old Duke will speak in SSO...
He will say that he is old.
And duke.
I hope that we get new rocket launcher instead of what they are removing
Dinner
you can see i take this very seriously

youre also anonymous
what the fuck?
Fish
how do I turn non anonymous
i am old and duke
Don't leak it!
@vivid hemlock the indicator
🍅
You are a tomato
It's 2025 does being a fish count as a gender
yes
What did solyn do to you
ruin my mental health
also killed my whole family
and burned my house
Did she kill your dog
the very famous old duke scale changes
@lapis oak go my small item changes information ai
do your thing
my cats :(
Tringle said all of OD drops will get reworked, Scale is in a rough spot and Xyk has plans for it
is starmageddon staying same it's my favorite ranger weapon
k
look at the background-less Scion's Curio that I just replaced 😊
slightly updated version
Though I already feel like I won't enjoy future updades (post-SSO)
will there be a possibility to download older versions?
github i think
compile it in github
Why
They REALLY REALLY like Cirrus
Are we deadass
I don't like the ideas of most re-tiers, plus don't know how my favourite subclasses (Flamethrowers-only, rockets-only) will work with all these changes (especially Magnomaly cannon, one of my favourite weapons)
That's fine
theres gonna be this ig
Most of the retiers are far from being confirmed
They might never happen
i think the only one that's basically guaranteed is the evil2s-folly swap
yes
Will folly still have it's upgrade thingy
most likely not because thatd mean removing it from crabulon
Still some hope, but I still don't understand these "reworks"
okay
Theres an upgrade per third of the game, and with rav getting moved to post provi Id guess folly will lose its upgrade and a hardmode boss would get a new upgrade to fill in the gap.
im glad there will actually be an evil boss in hardmode / post moonlord
reasons?
Like what stops them from adding that saw launcher as NEW weapon?
item bloat
It's not a rework, it's a new weapon with removal of exsisting
i love it when a weapon set has to have a weapon for every single subclass
post exos already has a fuck ton of weapons for ranger and it really does not need more
in the lore, aren't the evil2 bosses meant to be the remnants / essence of dead gods or something
theres no need to add more weapons
item bloats
calamity is infamous for having too many as a matter of fact
why add new items when already existing items are all outdated and needed helps
Like now we either lose rocket launcher (rip rocketeer), or if surge driver turns into rocket launcher we lose a gun (rip gunner)
(as in, fully removed items, not reworked ones ig)
sub-class does not need item at every stage of progressions
they are, sub-class for a reason
But why to destruct what already exists?
That's a good idea
But why to turn a rocket launcher into other?
what will Rocket Launcher even lose? it will receive another Rocket Launcher at that same tier
and why not?
all of the mm weapons use elemental weapons as the main predecessor and then theres magnomaly with nothing
Hello kiriscourge
they want Rocket Launcher to have Exo Mechs thematic instead of Miracle Matter so they will do that
so like, what will Rocket Launcher even lose?
If we really get new launcher instead, that is fine for me
still have a weapon at that same tier
rocket launcher being an exo mech weapon definitely makes more sense
gauss nuke launcher 
gulp
a laser weapon from exo mechs but its just that giant ass laser from that one exo mechs mod that makes them insane
vanilla is not designed with the idea of every single little niche playstyle being viable at every single stage of progression
calamity does not need to either
doing this would just make the already bloated-with-weapons mod suffer even more
Keep ts niche
if you want to do a rocket launcher only playthrough have fun with that, i'm sure you can
but the mod is not obliged to design around that
also isn't sub-class run is like a challenge run
this is true, this is why we should keep melee having 200 broadswords
if every stage of progressions have at least 1 weapon for your sub-class then is it even a challenge anymore
usestyle 1 broadswords
like it's literally just a normal run
yea its called a subclass for a reason
its not the Rocket Launcher Class
plus its not even an actual like
official designation
id argue the only things that seem to recognized as "real" subclasses are sentries for summoner and yoyos for melee
nuh uh
Also whips
stake launcher counts as a bow, and uhh
the fucking other one.
the candy corn rifle
they count as bow/gun, despite not using arrows or bullets
like your hair in 10 years Tsuki
can i just say
ranger post plant/golem POPS OFF
stake launcher, stynger, candy corn rifle, jack o lantern launcher
all the cool ammos
then all fell off 🥀
can I even buy those special ammos elsewhere or do I actually need to farm
feel like the number per drop is low
More options
too many options
no
calamity is not a mod that needs more options
at one point it's too many options
There is no too many options
yes there is
yes there is
pick my weapons
-devourer of gods
it's actively harming the gameplay
did you play melee before draedon update
especially for new players
remember when there were still like 100 shortswords (hell)
rangers already has 5 options post exos,,,
5 weapons that u will only use for one boss (or two whenever yharim comes out)
true excalibur shortsword was very necessary and needed to exist ok

no 
But why to nerf what is already good?
If it works, don't try to fix that
nerf sub-class only run viability
true
I'm assuming that's what they were talking about

makes sense
scugaxe
the idea of bosses in old cal literally being clones in lore as an excuse for the ai just being 100% recycled is hilarious to me
again, like what was said earlier, a sub-class' viability should not be why there are 2 gorillion weapons in the mod
Why doesn't every boss just copy skeletron prime ai
only 1 peak can exists
Yes, this one
it starts to hinder development too when there has to be a certain amount of work put into adding items realistically not many people will use, sprites, programming, sfx, etc.
Like current subclass balance is overall acceptable, even good I would say
Though how much time I aproxximitely have before magnomaly removal?
there is no approximate time
it will happen when it gets finished/the whole miracle matter set gets finished
and no its not a removal, its a rework (yes, its the same item, id and all, the code and sprite will just get changed), and surge driver will probably be changed in a launcher at the same time
This isn't a Nerf
It's a The Mod Has Too Much Content
They aren't removing magnomaly cannon with the intention of Nerfing The Very Niche Subclass they're removing it because they want to do something more interesting for a weapon design and the mod has way too many weapons so adding Another Miracle Matter Weapon Alongside Magnomaly Cannon Rework is just More Unecessary Work
There are far better things to focus on
But the effect is still the same
No it's not 😭 Adding a new weapon while also reworking another is literally more work
Adding more weapons with leaving older, but still working would make noone lose
There is such a thing as to much content
Magnomaly cannon kinda sucks dude i'm sorry 😭 Keeping the weapon in its current state in the mod would be ass
It's literally just
rocket launcher but the rockets are homing
weapon sucks fucking ass
nah surge driver is a launcher now and several weapons are becoming launchers/launchers are being reworked
and it fires. lasers. i guess
launcher is still thriving
refresh it
It'd be extremely jarring
Does anyone us the magnolia cannon? I always use the photoviserstor
as the launcher enthusiast who suggested scorched earth rework for over a year things are good dw
On one hand you have extremely detailed and high quality s uperradiant slaughter with super unique behavior not really seen in vanilla gear
And on the other hand
You have magnomaly cannon with the same sprite its had since it first came out and it fires a rocket that homes and thats kind of it
dust spam 😭
oh my god dust spam 💔
At least those who like rocketeer will have their rocket launcher
read the messages i sent
Also it seems theres trying to get somthing of a trend for miracle matter weapons
2 melee
2 ranger
2 mage
2 summoner
2 rouge
rouge
whjats up with that
why does everyone call it that
no like where did that start
Another question is what we get instead of shadethrower after dragonfolly swap?
its fascinating
I grew up with too much sonic
good question
If I recall, were gonna get a miracle matter spear at somepoint
use spark spreader on slime god i guess. woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
flamethrower subclass back to being hell <3
heartwarming
The dragoon drizzlefish in question
Dragoon is literally right there
With this, that makes the spread
2 melee
2 ranger
2 mage
1 summoner
2 rogue
what
There's nothing stopping them from adding a flamethrower to folly's loot pool or something
Like guys
i never used dragoon in my flamethrower run and i dont remember what it does
A whole ass boss swap does in fact entail more changes than just swapping the boss around


