#calamity-update-talk

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lapis oak
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what

vivid hemlock
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go away demon

lapis oak
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๐Ÿ˜ 

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kill u

stiff light
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this place is so weird

buoyant pulsar
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thank u :3

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its explodey

dusk bronze
stiff light
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i fw it

buoyant pulsar
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is yours the angel devil?

stiff light
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yea

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im reading chainsaw man

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im like 2 years late whatever

buoyant pulsar
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hes cunty i like him

stiff light
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have u read the manga

buoyant pulsar
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no but one of my friends has

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hes told me some stuff abt it

arctic cliff
stiff light
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never have nice things

severe nebula
buoyant pulsar
stiff light
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its pretty short

buoyant pulsar
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i watched the first season

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it was rlly good

stiff light
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ya

buoyant pulsar
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the sound design was awesome but i love all of it

stiff light
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the movie is really good too

dusty tinsel
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@lapis oak don't rebell i have cookies

stiff light
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rebel

dusty tinsel
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i have cookies though

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no cookies if you rebell

vivid hemlock
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kiri rebel

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do it

dusty tinsel
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i am removing your spine

vivid hemlock
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good luck

frail tapir
boreal edge
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This is @fringe quiver's fault

fringe quiver
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sorry about that

slate folio
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Tomorrow's another day

arctic cliff
split swift
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Ben shapiro owns yharim with facts and logic [EPIC LIB FAIL COMPILATION #99]

lavish otter
dull heart
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i just read all of it last week

buoyant pulsar
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does anyone have the nanoblack reaper spoiler

stiff light
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im on chapter 140

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getting through it

buoyant pulsar
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i decided to start reading the chainsaw man manga

dull heart
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i was sick one day so i watched the entire anime, movie, and read the whole thing

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it was good

stiff light
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fire

dull heart
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i do find the manga kinda hard to follow sometimes

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not the most visually clear

stiff light
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fair

fringe quiver
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chainsaw man is peak

stiff light
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i need new season

dull heart
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true

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the movie was so great

stiff light
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yep

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assassin arc in the anime is gonna be so peak

buoyant pulsar
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plus the sound design in the anime is

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a large part of why i like it, to say the least

dull heart
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I do miss the style of the anime in the movie but the new style worked well for what they were doing

buoyant pulsar
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the roaring engine sounds when denji fires up his chainsaws are just so

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crunchy

dull heart
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truth

buoyant pulsar
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i should rewatch the anime

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denji's dub va is fantastic

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better than sub imo

dull heart
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anime with good dubs are my favorite

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like kaguya-sama or rascal

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WAIT I need to rewatch rascal s2 now that the dub's out

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S2 felt a lot worse to me than s1 but I realized it was probably bc it was subbed not dubned

buoyant pulsar
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i love crowd control weapons

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who reworked superradiant?

lapis oak
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CIT and Altix

hoary edge
dull heart
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amelia from "My Status as an Assassin Obviously Exceeds the Hero's"

lapis oak
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what the fuck is that title

dull heart
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it's another isekai but the artstyle is so gorgeous

dull heart
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you should see the one anime title this season

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lemme go find it

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The shortened title is "My Gift Lvl 9999 Unlimited Gacha: Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon, I'm Out for Revenge!"

dull heart
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the full title?

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Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Trusted Companions Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to the Gift of an Infinite Gacha, I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge against My Former Party Members and the World

fringe quiver
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I wanted to go to theaters

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but guess waht

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when it launched i was BROKE AS FUCK and couldnt

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๐Ÿฅ€

dull heart
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rip

fringe quiver
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then when i got paid it was already out

strong isle
fringe quiver
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imma just watch it pirated whenever a good version of that come out ๐Ÿ˜ญ

strong isle
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Can confirm, the movie was great (I've never seen anything about CSM other than it)

fringe quiver
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Lol??/

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You should try giving the s1 of the anime a watch

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Csm is great because on the surface it seems like goofy shallow Fuck It We Ball manga but it's actually got alot of layers while STILL being goofy as fuck

fringe quiver
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Denji is lowk the best example of that himself

pearl sentinel
dull heart
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i want to go to theatres but i have no practical way to do that

strong isle
fringe quiver
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did you watch it on one of those like super grainy pirated versions lmao

dull heart
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it wasn't grainy actually

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it was pretty good quality overall, just colors thrown off

strong isle
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The shark guy was so peak....

dull heart
strong isle
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My favorite character was ironically Angel

dull heart
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and my parents would not be happy about it if they knew what i was going to see

dull heart
strong isle
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I say "if I have the time" as I read a school text at 01:39 AM for the 7 AM class

dull heart
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csm is so peak

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i'm glad reze arc is blowing up

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i've seen way too many really good animes die early

haughty crag
dull heart
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the tragedy of things like No Game No Life

dull heart
teal bone
fringe quiver
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Its true

teal bone
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because thats far from guaranteed to happen

fringe quiver
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I love to see how csm is popular again, reminds me of when s1 first released

dull heart
fringe quiver
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Csm is probably like, my 4th favorite manga/anime

dull heart
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what i wouldn't give for no game no life season 2

fringe quiver
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beaten only by kill la kill, evangelion and madoka

dull heart
fringe quiver
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one piece is really damn good too tho, rebecca convinced me to readit

dull heart
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or #12 depending on the day

fringe quiver
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I think it's my #5 right now

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which previously was jjba

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which tbf

fringe quiver
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hard to really judge jjba as a singular thing

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different parts vary so much in tone and characters

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jjba might still be my #5 depending on the part and how im feeling

fringe quiver
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equivalent exchange

dull heart
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i could list my top 4 probably but 5-10 is so idk how i'd order them

still bluff
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understandable

fringe quiver
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same lmao

dull heart
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toradora is my favorite one though, then fragrant flower

fringe quiver
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1 is madoka, 2 is evangelion, 3 is kill la kill, 4 is csm
after that uhhhhhhhhh good question

misty wren
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my favorite manga is one piece solely owing to it being the only manga ive ever read

dull heart
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my third is one that makes me have to go "I can explain" before i mention it, crying

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because the title is "days with my stepsister"

strong isle
misty wren
dull heart
teal bone
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kneeslapper ๐Ÿ”ฅ

teal bone
misty wren
teal bone
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doze I love ya man but im side-eyeing you hard right now

dull heart
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i'm trying to think of how to explain this succinctly uh

dull heart
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basically, it feels like a film festival film

still bluff
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doze i don't think you're making this better

dull heart
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it does exposition with an extreme amount of show, not tell

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it also doesn't have stuff that's really sus in it! they avoid the usual fanservice stuff!

misty wren
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yeah that implies unusual fanservice stuff which is scarier

dull heart
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no ๐Ÿ˜ญ

teal bone
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"instead of the usual fanservice they opt for a more creative approach to fanservice"

dull heart
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honestly the only film i can think of to compare it to is literally skinamarink

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which is wild

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because the genre is SO different

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but the same things i love about skinamarink are what i love about this

misty wren
main falcon
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I don't remember skinamarink

teal bone
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jesus is typing...

dull heart
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Skinamarink also takes very creative approaches to shots and such

main falcon
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Indeed I did

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I'm an angry god btw

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That's why I'm red

dull heart
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my favorite shot in that entire anime that I don't want to repeat the name of is one that's mostly just blank walls with the family at a table eating in the backgound

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no talking, but it just sits there

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like way too long to be comfortable

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it does a really good job at conveying something is wrong

teal bone
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wrong gif.

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wheres the right evangelion elevator gif

dull heart
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tldr it rises to that spot almost entirely because I love the direction of the show a ton

misty wren
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i forgot i dont have embed perms

still bluff
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you aren't allowed embeds

misty wren
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you should give me embed perms

dull heart
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also it's the first anime where I saw something that made me think "That's what love actually is" (not-romantic love in this context)

teal bone
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stepsiblingly love I take it?

dull heart
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dying inside

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anyway my #4 is bocchi the rock

misty wren
still bluff
teal bone
misty wren
teal bone
strong isle
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I actually saw a video about Bocchi the Rock recently

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It sounds peak

dull heart
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bocchi not being top 1 was a very tight battle i'm not gonna lie

teal bone
strong isle
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I can see that

misty wren
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i should watch bocchi the rock at some point but also im too lazy to ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

dull heart
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and #5 is probably Shiki

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but it could be rascal or frieren or apothecary diaries depending on the day

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shiki likely takes it off of my love for a few ways it does a very good job of making you think without spelling out what it's saying

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highly reccomend to anyone who likes horror

misty wren
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theres a lot of stuff i want to watch but im too lazy to ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ actually its not just bocchi

dull heart
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theres a lot of stuff i want to watch but i just don't have the time

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my planning list has somewhere between 60-80 i think

misty wren
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my planning list has like 4 things

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bocchi evangelion frieren and madoka

dull heart
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makes sense

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honestly i think i need to split my watched anime tiering into more specific divisions

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or something

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or i should make video essays

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would be a good way to organize and express my thoughts on some of the ones that have stuck with me more like Takopi's Original Sin, Shiki, Darling in the Franxx

thorny fjord
dull heart
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YES

thorny fjord
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I enjoyed it a lot when I saw it, but that was a good but ago

dull heart
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I'm so glad I went into it totally blind

thorny fjord
dull heart
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The writing didn't stand out a ton in general, but it was one of the few anime that always left me guessing on what would actually happen

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the last half I think was where it really hit its stride because it was able to work with what it had built up in the first half

thorny fjord
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I especially liked the ending

dull heart
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yeah the ending was perfect for it

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The way I was hoping it would end changed a lot as the series progressed but it ended up ending exactly right

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I think specifically the most interesting thing it made me ask myself was (for anyone who has any interest in Shiki, go watch it before spoiling yourself) ||how the humans slowly turned into arguably being more monstrous than the vampires, and therefore thinking if they really deserved to even get out of the story fine||

thorny fjord
# thorny fjord I especially liked the ending

Endings that tie everything together and recontextualize the entire show you just watched are my favorite. I know there's a few I've loved, but the big one that comes to mind atm is code geass. Tokyo ghoul has a ton of moments like these sprinkled throughout as well (I know the narrative was pretty repeatedly beaten in, but the Jason torture scene mirroring the entire show is one example) even if the ending wasn't amazing.

dull heart
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Yeah, I think those are always very fun endings

thorny fjord
dull heart
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I haven't actually seen it yet but i need to eventually

thorny fjord
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The manga is a lot better for most of it imo, but really just the last season is the only one I feel the anime was bad for

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Despite its flaws it's one of my favorite pieces of media of all time

lapis oak
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Tokyo Ghoul anime

dull heart
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I'm considering specifically starting another show specifically that I know will leave me with that post anime depression like toradora did

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but issue is I started Plastic Memories for that exact purpose and now I don't wanna finish it because I love the characters too much to let it end ๐Ÿ˜ญ

thorny fjord
# lapis oak Tokyo Ghoul anime

Season one is solid, and the rest is fine except the final season which does suck. It's all pretty objectively worse than the manga, but I don't think the seasons outside the last one are that bad.

boreal pewter
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Made in Abyss holds my #1 spot, and either Monogatari or Mob Psycho 100 is probably #2 with the other at #3, but I'm not sure where to place my other favorites besides a non numbered list
Re Zero, O Maidens in Our Savage Season, Soul Eater (Paritally nostalgia carried), and 100 Girlfriends

dull heart
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i don't think i've seen any of these yet

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although most are on my list

viral merlin
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#1 FMA
#2 FMA
#3 FMA
#4 JJK

stiff light
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ive been told to watch made in a byss

viral merlin
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It's good

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The manga at the other hand

viral merlin
boreal pewter
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in my dreams it could happen

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in my dreams...

viral merlin
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In mine, too

pearl sentinel
viral merlin
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Too bad everyone is too invested into producing another season of that one time I got turned into shit poop that defeated the demon lord in a dimension full of cute snake girls

viral merlin
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It's sad

fringe quiver
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calamity spoiler talk

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also yeah wtfs up with that

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all shitty isekais are named like that

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i guess that's fitting actually

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mfers dont even have originality to come up with a name

pearl sentinel
valid cargo
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(real show)

pearl sentinel
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(shortened title)

valid cargo
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yes it was wasn't it

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the full one is crazy

pearl sentinel
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i figured it was some weird fad

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but i guess it makes more sense that its unoriginal mfs

valid cargo
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Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge. is the old title

misty wren
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could also just be making short snappy names is also kinda hard

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especially if you dont want your anime to be titled [Main Character Name]

viral merlin
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Kagurabachi
Featuring
Kagurabachi

valid cargo
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Join Natsu and his friends in
Lucy Heartfillia

misty wren
valid cargo
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Does it still count as a cop out if its the love interest and not the MC

misty wren
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if the title of the series is just the name of one of the characters in it id say probably

valid cargo
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My life with Yamada-Kun at lvl999

pearl sentinel
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Kamen rider is technically named after the main character

fringe quiver
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Though honestly Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge is like so fucking abysmal thta it looks around into being peak

valid cargo
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Im thinking about giving it a chance but man, i've heard the manga is straight ass

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Typical noob to god manga that doesn't really change from the status quo

thorny fjord
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Pretty sure I've read like the first 10 chapters of the manga, and it was straight ass

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And I'm an isekai slop enjoyer so that says a lot

valid cargo
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Thats so real, theres some really good isekai slop out there

raw falcon
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Real calamity spoiler hours

lapis oak
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slop

valid cargo
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my favorite is still zenshu as far as originality goes

misty wren
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byeah i dont like the statement of "new isekai titles are so bad because they're unoriginal" or whatever when no. thats not why they're bad. the titles are bad in surprising new undiscovered ways

valid cargo
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sob

thorny fjord
# raw falcon Real calamity spoiler hours

Ok fine...., I should actually do my job. Everyone please return to being on topic for the channel, or move to another channel please. I know the guidelines for what is "on topic" in times of spoiler "drought" is pretty vague and loose, but this is squarely outside of it.

misty wren
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no you dont need to listen to the voices

valid cargo
hard copper
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did you know that theyre removing murasama in sso?

high scaffold
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Calamity spoiler talk

tropic jolt
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tomorrow is another day

misty wren
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we need to ban amidiasposting its genuinely not funny anymore

thorny fjord
# tropic jolt

This is exactly what I meant by what is on topic being vague cause like......

high scaffold
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I just got an idea, a miracle matter spatula replacing exoblade

misty wren
tropic jolt
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its not about being funny

misty wren
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and thats exactly whats been happening here for the past what month and a half

misty wren
tropic jolt
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idk

misty wren
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then stop posting it

high scaffold
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Back in my day amidas posting was funny

hard copper
misty wren
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if you cannot genuinely determine a point for continuing something, stop continuing it

raw falcon
tropic jolt
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does anybody want to discuss the spoilers

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or are we going to fill this channel with anime discussion for no reason

high scaffold
high scaffold
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I dont

tropic jolt
arctic cliff
tropic jolt
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true

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amidias brings us all together in times of hardship โค๏ธ

lean relic
raw falcon
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So uh

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calclones getting an arena box

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that's pretty nifty

tropic jolt
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yes

fathom girder
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I assume she's getting a rework to compensate..?

misty wren
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no she just has the box

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which doesnt actually change all that much about the fight because im pretty sure scals moveset would be nearly identical without the box

autumn compass
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I'm assuming it'll be a larger box than the SCal one though, right?

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Since using the same size as the SCal box makes the fight pretty weird (especially brothers)

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Or maybe she'll be getting some smaller tweaks rather than a full rework idk

desert garnet
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cuz doze said he could replicate sans fight in it

buoyant pulsar
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imagine if dragonfolly had a cool boss background where it was a red lightning thunderstorm

summer shore
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dragonfolly don't got enough sauce for allat

silk terrace
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๐Ÿ˜ญ so astrum deus post ml was a lie

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?

buoyant pulsar
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true

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but all bosses should have cool bgs...

summer shore
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Folly gonna be a pre hardmode boss

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bro does not deserve it

arctic cliff
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it might just fit

buoyant pulsar
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dragonfolly should lowkey have a giant lightning barrage from the sky

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that would be sick

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asriel style

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yall i hope the exo tank is just completely ground-bound

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so i can like sit on the bottom of the arena and absolutely eat her projectiles to the face while slowly moving around and shooting her

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i think it would be interesting if the exo tank had like lower mobility but actively boosted your defense or something

flint patrol
rich ginkgo
buoyant pulsar
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i just wonder how they're gonna implement it

rich ginkgo
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probably by reducing mobility and being tanky

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like a tank

buoyant pulsar
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i will use my exo tank and my exo tank armor and i will use my sponge and i will use my rampart of deities and i will use my chalice of the blood god and i will use my

flint patrol
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imagine if calamity mod boots branched into either the tracers or dash boots like enigma

buoyant pulsar
lapis oak
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Well we actually know it's gonna deal a lot of damage and crippled movement

buoyant pulsar
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speaking of, is the gravistar sabaton rework in the doc

stone fiber
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Also, is the hydrothermic armor design that's in the doc still (more or less) accurate?
(Yes, I know it's a WIP, but like in general XD)

bright crane
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is master death going to be more fun and challenging with bosses without them being too much stat-inflated and dealing enormous amounts of damage? i hate when bosses are hard in an annoying way instead of fun one

stark pond
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for now the statflation and enormous damage is a characteristic of master, though the worse (vanilla bosses get crack in master) is getting resolved in SSO 1
further down the line they will refine master

bright crane
stark pond
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as of now you're kinda stuck with fabsolian design

bright crane
stark pond
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vanilla bosses getting crack was his design

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and DoG head almost insta kill thing in master too

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probably

bright crane
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I actually hate that thing, it's so funny that evil 2 bosses are way easier than lower-tier vanilla ones

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i meant i prefer something infernum-like

bright crane
stark pond
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almost doubling contact damage on all part on master compared to death

bright crane
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HOW DOES HE DEAL OVER 1K DAMAGE

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with the head

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"perfectly balanced"

stark pond
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i mean it was worse but now he seemed to remember the ol' day

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(dog head used to insta kill you, straight up, in death)

bright crane
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๐Ÿ’”

native thistle
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SSO then clock strikes midnight

bright crane
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actually, i like the idea (even if it's just an idea that might not be implemented at all) of slime god changing places with cal clone in progression, it just feels right and sg before queen slime is a bit underwhelming (similar situation to evil 2 bosses but they are getting put post moonlord tho)

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and the cal clone seems pretty interesting to be put before the wall of flesh

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but not sure if that would make sense lore wise when brimstone elemental is before her

valid crypt
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Calclone has little relation to brimmy other then both being brimstone and related to scal kinda

azure oak
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Kinda interesting to have a clone of calamitas made by draedon before yharim's first method of storing god essence, and then later having calamitas and draedon's creations before yharim

bright crane
wicked temple
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hrllo calamity poiler talk

valid crypt
wicked temple
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๐Ÿ‡

valid crypt
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Those are removed next update

wicked temple
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r the sea bunnies in yet

valid crypt
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sso bot out

wicked temple
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hmph

valid crypt
wicked temple
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Im cancelling calamity

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No more sso

valid crypt
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Wtf

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But then no sea bunnyโ€ฆ

frail tapir
valid crypt
modern grove
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I was saying it before but I think overall it would be a lot more impactful if calclone didn't exist and in her place there was scal fight 1

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Some sort of introduction to the character

valid crypt
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Why would she not fucking kill you

modern grove
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And the fight is under very different circumstances compared to her proper fight in the end of the game

valid crypt
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Why would she fight you in general

modern grove
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Even lyrics of SBC are written with the refright in mind I feel like

valid crypt
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๐Ÿ’€????????

modern grove
# valid crypt Why would she fight you in general

You can come up with a lot of different reasons. She doesn't see you as a treat, the first fight could have been not intentional, she spares you. You just need to work around it and it would take effort but in the end I think it would be a lot more impactful than calclone existing

modern grove
fallow urchin
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is this big enough arena for providence

modern grove
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I had this convo already and don't want to type all again

wicked temple
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@modern grove HAIII THROUDON

modern grove
# valid crypt ๐Ÿ’€????????

Opening lyrics are "no more holding back <...> they thought they were invincible", " Something tells you they have scaled in their power" etc to me imply an existence of the previous battle where we fought calamitas and won or at least didn't die but now she wants to kill us for real

modern grove
modern grove
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Plus the way calamity was developed

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When calclone was original calamitas

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And then scal was added as a stronger version

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I don't think fabsol thought too hard about it but to me it seems like in the narrative of Dokuro songs the implications are

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It's a rematch

valid crypt
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Fabsolian boss creation

modern grove
strong isle
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How would you imply she was trying to be better but something went wrong in the first encounter? That sounds quite similar to the situation in the actual fight, and that doesn't really sell it
Also, wouldn't it be ideal to have signs of her improvement outside just boss fights

vivid hemlock
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if you mean that concept art its just that concept art

bright crane
modern grove
wicked temple
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meow

vivid hemlock
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haii azzy

wicked temple
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haiiiiiiii

valid crypt
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Hai

modern grove
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I just also think having calclone be replaced with scal fight 1 would be cool as hell if done right

halcyon seal
desert garnet
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scripted losses are lame

halcyon seal
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I think they can be very cool if done right

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But also after reading everything here, I think Calclone still just makes more sense

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I mean, if Calclone didnโ€™t exist, then sure scal 1

sharp nexus
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but if you hit her she kills you lol

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and if you dont she spares u

pulsar cobalt
halcyon seal
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since yk shes (one of) the final boss

pulsar cobalt
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she

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literally spares you

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at the end of the fight

halcyon seal
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i guess? ill admit im really not that well versed in lore but to me it feels more like the terrarian is sparing her atm

valid crypt
uneven tendon
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I figured it out

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its remnants mod

valid crypt
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Ah ok thanks

strong isle
fringe quiver
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Tbh i think in the same vein you can say "You can come up with something cool for Scal fight 1 being calclone"

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you can say "You can come up with something cool for calclone"

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And it'd be less of a headache too

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I can't think of a way to make calclone > scal 1 make much sense, honestly. Yeah i do agree Cal absolutely needs more presence hereslf to some extent but i don't think making her fight you early on is it

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I think that greatly diminishes the impact of her eventual endgame fight

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And not to mention i don't think it fits her character very well

fringe quiver
#

It's kind of the same thing

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You're having a extremely powerful character whose fight is supposed to come around the end and be a big climatic moment fight you early on in a much weaker state, thus greatly reducing their eventual fight's impact

silk terrace
#

Yarim

fringe quiver
#

And not to mention that it, again, dosen't make much Narrative sense, as much like how Yharim wouldn't have any reason to fight you early on, as you are still not notable enough to catch his attention, neither does Calamitas have any reason to pay any mind to you initially

silk terrace
#

Lamitas

fringe quiver
#

Calclone herself can already very easily lead into a interesting narrative without a need for much of a headache honestly

#

I mean, she's a clone

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She's literally Someone Else, her identity, her history, it's all based on things she didn't do and someone who isn't her

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The identity crisis and existentialism writes itself

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And given Calamity's story has a major theme of Making Your Own Choices, yeah a clone can fit really well into that, i think

lapis oak
#

Chhese yap

vivid hemlock
#

ai cant spell

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useless mockery of life

thorny glacier
#

changelogs tomorrow

viral merlin
jaunty sequoia
#

on god can we just let trasher stacking be gfb exclusive?

valid crypt
#

Whats that

dull heart
#

we need less random gfb jank

tropic jolt
#

MORE gfb jank MORE MORE

fringe quiver
#

im very not autistic trust me

fringe quiver
#

just like random weird shit or does the actually funny stuff also count as jank

lean relic
#

guys
i think we might get half life 3 announcement before sso
no its not a joke im serious

dull heart
#

mostly the weird stuff that's really not that funny or just an inside joke

fringe quiver
#

yeah that stuffs lame

#

can you guys replace it with making yharon a giant hog in gfb instead

dull heart
#

Like Lacerator dog is peak

#

but like, the random noise changes with no real reason kinda suck

fringe quiver
#

hell hog hogron

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actually no

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Hog of Awfulness, Hogron

stone fiber
#

Roar of the Jungle Hog CalWheeze

thorny glacier
#

changehogs tomorrow

stone fiber
thorny glacier
#

flee where?

vivid hemlock
#

the fleeing only happens because the writers had to explain what the hell queen slime is

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the swap would fix this issue since it would put sg firmly after qs

lavish otter
#

I'll admit, while that makes a decent amount of sense, I actually kind of liked that detail

halcyon seal
thorny glacier
#

anyway yeah changeblobs tomorrow

lavish otter
vivid hemlock
#

the biggest problem was that... queen slime was the refight

lavish otter
#

But yeah, the fact that it was to justify Queen Slime is...I get why it'd be removed

earnest jewel
#

Clearly we should fight Slime God three times.

lavish otter
#

Though that does remind me of an interesting idea I heard before the retier was suggested, where at the end of the Queen Slime fight, the core would leap out of her and try rolling away, giving you a chance to kill the little bugger directly as it's trying to flee again

Which I thought was cool, even if...again, it's bogged down a bit by it beiing in the context of following Queen Slime's fight

vivid hemlock
#

i actually like the idea of the refight, but since it would have to be under the constraints of qs i just vastly prefer the tier swap

dull heart
#

simply have the refight be slime god and qs be the prelude

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I like the tier swap because calclone bullet hells in prehardmode mobility gear sound fun

lavish otter
#

Also sort of a problem with the refight thing, now that I'm thinking about it, is that unless you lock progression behind the first fight...it's entirely possible that you'll just skip it and not realize

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Which would be even more possible if Queen Slime was the prelude, honestly, because she's really missable and all around pretty insignificant

dull heart
#

I have one major con for the retier

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no more buzzkill on clone

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buzzkill in the arena is SO FUN

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there's a lot of fun options for clone at her current tier with the arena

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those get lost with the retier

remote bay
#

Whatโ€™s happening with clone

hasty hawk
#

WAIT

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rogue would love this

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Tracking Disc

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Gel Darts

earnest jewel
dull heart
#

tracking disc is reworked

remote bay
#

Is she getting retiered

dull heart
#

Gel Darts are tied to slime god

dull heart
hasty hawk
#

would be amazing for the bros or seekers

lavish otter
remote bay
remote bay
#

Cool

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Is she getting resprited

hasty hawk
remote bay
#

*resprited

dull heart
#

Water Bolt would be a good bouncing thing though

lavish otter
dull heart
#

compared to post mechs though

hasty hawk
#

anyways rogue always finds a way to have fun

dull heart
#

Buzzkill, Chloro Arrow, Light Disc, Crystal Darts, Cursed Flames

#

All come to mind

#

Ooh flower of fire for mage

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in the retier

lavish otter
hasty hawk
#

Rotball, Hardened Honeycomb, Tooth ball, Metal Monstrosity for rogue in the retier

dull heart
#

rotball is almost definitely being killed by retier

hasty hawk
#

Maybe Glaive once that gets tweaked/reworked

dull heart
#

the other retier

#

Glaive stealth strike should give me orbital glaives like glaive lord

#

It would be so peak

hasty hawk
hasty hawk
dull heart
#

I think post skeletron would be a very useful period for it

#

Hungry, WoF

hasty hawk
#

lets give it a [data expunged] so its like Turbocharge

#

Blazing star could get more stuff like the orbital glaives

dull heart
#

I think that having the spam be glaive ricochet and then the stealth being glaive lord would be so perfect for that tier

hasty hawk
#

actually why tf does this not have a later upgrade like Frostcrush (goes into Celestus) or Cinqueda (ends up all the way to Deific Thunderbolt or whatever its called iirc)

lavish otter
#

Actually, speaking of! So we have CalClone-Slime God and Evil2-Bumblefuck as the main retiers that aren't definite but are probably going to happen, but are there any other retier ideas floating around?

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I'd guess not, but I might as well ask

earnest jewel
#

Swap King Slime and Yharon, obviously.

dull heart
hasty hawk
dull heart
#

besides, it's not like burning star couldn't add onto the orbitals

hasty hawk
#

Moab press

dull heart
#

yeah but Moab Press makes 0 sense to use

hasty hawk
dull heart
#

unless it's explicitly not for bosses

hasty hawk
#

and comical knockback on non bosses

dull heart
#

or we just want it to be use stealth once every 30 seconds

#

It is surface chest so maybe

hasty hawk
#

we already had the insanity that is prenerf web ball

dull heart
#

currently that's hardcoded into the boss stun system

hasty hawk
#

if that even stays

dull heart
#

All stuns share a 30 second cooldown

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although it could be fixed

hasty hawk
#

tbh i think we could change it to be proportional to how long the stun was

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like smth with a big stun gets big cooldown

dull heart
#

probably

hasty hawk
#

but 0.5 sec stuns shouldnt have 30 sec cooldown

dull heart
#

anyhow, I also don't think that going from turbo charge to orbitals in the upgrade makes much sense

hasty hawk
#

especially since they make shit that can actually combo with a strong stun useless (see alfame enchant)

dull heart
#

That's a complete change in the functionality of the line

hasty hawk
earnest jewel
dull heart
#

yeah I know

hasty hawk
#

altho yep prob better to use bouncing

modern grove
hasty hawk
#

the F can go on other weapons at that tier

dull heart
#

but I don't think glaive would benefit from that specifically yeah

#

metal monstrosity for example

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that might be a fun one

hasty hawk
#

probably

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the stealth currently is dogshit so it could 100% use that

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and could be a slow [that] compared to Mycorroot, Cosmic Kunai and others

lavish otter
dull heart
#

I think glaive being a weak glaive ricochet and then stealth being turned into orbital glaives + a better bounce that inflicts like, heavy bleeding on its primary target would be fun

modern grove
hasty hawk
#

heavy bleeding could maybe be too much at that tier but does sound fun

lavish otter
#

Ahhh I see!

hasty hawk
#

considering that is post-plant/clone iirc

dull heart
#

well, glaive's dmg would be balanced around that

hasty hawk
dull heart
#

Real glaive lord's dmg primarily comes from the 1k DPS shred in bloons

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this would also prevent it being ultra CC nightmare as only one target gets most of the dmg

hasty hawk
#

also speaking of CC, maybe that change to CC could be peak for stuff like hypothermia so people use it properly, especially with the changes to Raider's and Vamp Talisman

dull heart
#

Cal has some bad CC problems lol

hasty hawk
#

Prob nerf the duration to compensate (pretty sure its the longest stun after web ball's stun was rightfully executed for its crimes)

dull heart
#

violence has 5 seconds of vhex :)

hasty hawk
#

2nd longest stun

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altho vhex is more of a slow

dull heart
#

Yeah

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but it's a strong one

hasty hawk
#

When Im not shackled by time and responsabilities im up to starting the F if 1.4.5 hasnt come out (or maybe even if it comes out since its likely manpower goes back to summoner)

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Prob dealing with Cosmic Kunai first since I promised it to the people here, then maybe my dev weapon or Terror Talons

dull heart
#

honestly I think the next update after 2.1 being primarily rebalancing rogue and summoner might be a good idea

#

but we'll see when we get there

hasty hawk
#

we will

dull heart
#

at least the wait for 1.4.5 is almost over so we can finally make summoner plans

hasty hawk
#

Yes, so much has been stalled by waiting for that thing, quite the unfortunate situation innit?

#

anyways i should probably get back to work, homework aint doing itself

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altho I feel like playing MC for a while to free my head a little bit

lapis oak
#

innit

fringe quiver
#

It could work i'm sure, but i don't think it could work with what calamity's story is

modern grove
#

Yes it's different

lavish otter
lapis oak
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

fringe quiver
#

Just to explain better what i mean

fringe quiver
#

depending on wtf they do with slime god

#

slop god

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hate that guy

#

#1 slime god hater

fringe quiver
#

It dosen't necessarily have to mean a rematch if it's follwed up in some way later

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maybe statis quest stuff or smth idk

#

squidgame

vivid hemlock
dull heart
#

I might just go mess around with a glaive rework after I get off work today to see if it feels good

#

WAIT NO I need to do school

#

Grahh

lavish otter
arctic cliff
fringe quiver
#

There wouldn't be a rematch if the boss swap happens :p

lavish otter
#

I was just thinking earlier about how one of the issues with Slime God as it is right now is that it's entirely possible to just...skip Slime God and fight Queen Slime first, so I was wondering how you could make sure someone does the initial fight first outside of locking game progression behind it

fringe quiver
#

I think most people don't like the queen slime remathc as a concept, including developers, for far more reasons than just that

lavish otter
#

Of course, but it is one

stone fiber
stone fiber
modern grove
#

Slime god will become a wandering npc that sells you biome solutions for free

fringe quiver
#

he will sell you graveyard solution that turns any biome into a graveyard and nothing else

#

1 platinum each

modern grove
#

I'm in

vivid hemlock
#

wonderful

stone fiber
# stone fiber Okay so if fleeing will be gone I have an idea

Since it's been in consideration that we'll be able to spare some bosses (like cnidrion and calclone) (not sure if the current scal counts XD), I think another good candidate for this mechanic would be slime god
I mean, think about it. We only fight like three actual gods in the game (slime god, ravager and providence), and sg is the only one that can be considered "good" or at least lawful neutral, with him keeping his form from growing out of control and being revered as a paragon of balance. And with the theme of choices, if you'll be able to spare him this will probably be the biggest showcase (not sure what the right word is) that your path is different from Yharim's

hasty hawk
hasty hawk
thorny glacier
#

calamity mod

solid coral
#

calamity-epoiler-talk

thorny glacier
#

calamity-poiler-talk

lean relic
atomic bay
#

yeha omni blade sucks

#

try calamity enhanced, it reworks it

lean relic
#

does bro know

atomic bay
#

nope, explain

dull heart
#

that's literally not even how omniblade works in calamity

atomic bay
#

thats crazy

#

i forgot it was outdated

#

it still sucks

pulsar cobalt
#

wdym by outdated

#

and also it literally doesnt

atomic bay
#

the gif is outdated

#

i forgot it got reworked

lapis oak
#

love spreading misinformation all over the place

severe nebula
naive ice
cobalt wharf
severe nebula
#

i guess if grand guardian is in a tier then that makes sense

lapis oak
naive ice
lapis oak
#

๐Ÿ˜ด

lavish otter
#

Though time has gone on, and many updates have arisen
Through our calamities, our spoilers, and our talks
There are changes yet to be logged

naive ice
lavish otter
#

No worries, I'll find it for you

modern grove
#

I think some of you guys should take a look into the mirror and do some self reflection

hasty hawk
valid crypt
thorny glacier
naive ice
teal bone
#

Adrift Soul, Sovereign of Naught, King Amidias

naive ice
lavish otter
mystic eagle
hasty hawk
mystic eagle
stone fiber
stone fiber
naive ice
thorny glacier
lavish otter
fringe quiver
#

january-februar

mystic eagle
#

Remember when the devs estimated that SSO would release in February?

#

Maybe they meant February 2026

lavish otter
lavish otter
#

God damn, if only they knew

mystic eagle
#

Predictions from devs go as early as 2024

hasty hawk
mystic eagle
#

There is no 2025 SSO in Ba Sing Se

pseudo vector
#

poorly aged messages moment

mystic eagle
#

"I don't expect it to come out next year"
"We still have 8 damn months and a pretty solid amount of work has been done already"
"1.5 is way too fucking big and I doubt we will ever make an update as large as it ever again"

lean relic
mystic eagle
#

Well she was right with the first one

dull heart
hasty hawk
#

1.4.5 being announced
The incident
Devs leaving
People taking breaks due to irl stuff (like me)
People getting older and not having as much free time to work

dull heart
#

They said they don't expect it to come out 2025

#

2026 is on the table with that message

hasty hawk
#

and etc which ended up delaying stuff

mystic eagle
hasty hawk
#

2026 is def on the table for part 1 maybe

stuck kite
#

sso might have spanned from 2nd year to 4th year for me which is wild

dull heart
#

I would love to get it done before 1.4.5

#

but like

#

I don't think it's happening

mystic eagle
#

that's unlikely to be the case

hasty hawk
#

and I dont expect part 2 to take too long unless Red pulls smth that makes summoner balancing worse

stuck kite
#

at least the origin of it

mystic eagle
#

When did SSO get conceptualized

lean relic
#

Which one comes first
Half life 3 announcement or sso release

dull heart
#

pre-22

hasty hawk
stuck kite
#

well the actual sso started

mystic eagle
stuck kite
#

probably in 2020 if i have to guess

lean relic
lavish otter
stuck kite
#

actually planned after 1.5

mystic eagle
#

2022, I was in the 2nd year of high school back then XD

hasty hawk
#

funny how b4 I was just a free uni student and now... taking a masters degree lmao

stuck kite
#

but after 2 ports it's resumed the next intended content update

lean relic
#

I should forward yuh message give me second

stuck kite
#

and the 2 ports are like

#

externalities

silk terrace
stuck kite
#

plus 22

silk terrace
#

so yes

stuck kite
#

so id actually consider post-port the start of modern sso

mystic eagle
lean relic
earnest jewel
#

What in the hell?

mystic eagle
#

What

#

the

#

fuck

stuck kite
#

yep

mystic eagle
#

I wasn't even allowed on discord back then

valid crypt
#

Sob

hasty hawk
mystic eagle
dull heart
#

I think the only thing that might be a SSO delay caused by 25 is Desert Scourge tbh

valid crypt
lavish otter
# lean relic

Y'know, this is kind of unrelated, but I think one of the worst parts of the rise of AI is how when you're writing out a concise list now, you have to worry about it seeming like it was written by ChatGPT

mystic eagle
#

oh

dull heart
#

dog didn't delay anything

stuck kite
#

in fact i think fabsert scourge is gonna be undercooked and done really fast

lavish otter
stuck kite
#

and might be predestined that no one spoke out about it

#

because that's just how it was

silk terrace
dull heart
mystic eagle
lavish otter
dull heart
#

yes but that doesn't change the fact that dog work didn't take any resources from SSO work

hasty hawk
#

DoG in-dev is doing very good rn

mystic eagle
#

oh

stuck kite
dull heart
#

dog did not cause any delay at all to SSO

#

Desert Scourge has due to assets needed

stuck kite
#

there's a lot more thought being put into boss content which means more workforce concentrated

hasty hawk
#

altho idk what will happen with the resprite but hey the surprise is pretty much good for now

stuck kite
#

from everyone

mystic eagle
dull heart
#

and also the fact that we get to actually consider the design

silk terrace
#

speaking of delays i hope you people are ready for nothing to get done for the next month (our collective is alloyed)

stuck kite
#

and testing too

silk terrace
#

TOMORROW

valid crypt
#

What

dull heart
#

what

hasty hawk
#

altho i have a lot of shit to do and timezones so thats unfortunate

silk terrace
#

ror2 dlc drops tomorrow

hasty hawk
#

at least I will turn 22 on friday

dull heart
#

oh

silk terrace
#

hi charlie

pseudo vector
#

hi

valid crypt
urban cloak
#

sir another game drop has hit the calamity dev team

lavish otter
mystic eagle
pseudo vector
#

i will definitely be copping alloyed collective, playing for many hours and definitely ruining my already fragile sleep schedule

urban cloak
#

good thing i dont play elden ring

valid crypt
#

Silksong deltarune ror2 dlc and watcher dlc?

#

Oh and that

mystic eagle
#

Hades II

pseudo vector
#

oh and metroid prime 4 in a few weeks too

silk terrace
#

i literally cleared my schedule for tomorrow so i could spend all day playing it lol

mystic eagle
#

Also Air Riders on thursday

dull heart
#

I don't think a single of these big releases has caused me to work on cal less at all

pseudo vector
#

these game devs need to stop putting out such peak fiction

urban cloak
pseudo vector
mystic eagle
mystic eagle
urban cloak
#

huh???

urban cloak
#

did they not announce that in fucking april???

#

its done already????????

dull heart
mystic eagle
#

I'm so excited to get a Switch 2 in 2027 as I have exams on my bucket list for god knows how long

stuck kite
#

im done taking setbacks from game drops

silk terrace
#

that was a joke lol

pseudo vector
#

they announced the release date in the first dedicated air riders direct

dull heart
#

get your days right smh

mystic eagle
silk terrace
stuck kite
#

instead ill have the finals setback coming in a week

dull heart
#

thing is that even when the next big zzz update drops it won't actually take much of my time

urban cloak
pseudo vector
#

then they showed off a crazy amount of stuff in the second air riders direct a few weeks ago

mystic eagle
#

Air Riders started development during the Fighters pass DLC for SSBU

dull heart
#

chaos zero nightmare has been more of a time drain the last while than ZZZ has

urban cloak
#

just thought it'd be cooking for longer but ig it was already in the works for a while

hasty hawk
# lavish otter Uh oh

im in break (and have a very important proyect delivery that day) so nothing will happen unfortunately

mystic eagle
silk terrace
#

oh yeah and there's a big infinity nikki update soon so that's also going to be taking up my time

urban cloak
#

that makes more sense

hasty hawk
#

oh Limbus Update too (RR1 bokgak (did i spell it right?)), that will take Limbus player's time

stuck kite
#

i dont even know whats switch 2 exclusive thats any appealing to get a switch 2 for

mystic eagle
hasty hawk
#

January also has Canto 9 so yep

halcyon seal
stuck kite
#

feels like it needs more than just a handful to be worth

pseudo vector
#

i won't be getting a switch 2 until smth crazy drops for it exclusively

dull heart
#

I won't be getting a switch 2

mystic eagle
#

Tbf the Switch had no exclusives until Mario Odyssey which released in fall 2017 iirc

#

But nobody had a Wii U so count BotW in

pseudo vector
#

bananza and mkw are cool but they don't make me want to buy it

halcyon seal
#

Is the switch 2 just the PS5

hasty hawk
stuck kite
#

however im from a stance where i dont even own a console atm

mystic eagle
valid crypt
stuck kite
#

so like. grain of salt on that

halcyon seal
mystic eagle
valid crypt
#

Damn

lavish otter
#

You can play botw on the wii U?

hasty hawk
lavish otter
#

I have a Wii U, maybe I should look into that...

mystic eagle
halcyon seal
halcyon seal
#

Just donโ€™t play botw for Wii U

#

Thereโ€™s like a 15 second loading screen for closing the inventory iirc

lavish otter
#

Ah pbthh, I guess that makes sense

#

It's still the Wii U after all

mystic eagle
#

Like 10% of the Switch first parties are Wii U

#

Some more are ports

#

The rest is new

halcyon seal
#

I think Nintendo just looked at the Wii U and said โ€œhey wait a minute we fucked up and actually made good games for this thing on accidentโ€

mystic eagle
#

true

halcyon seal
#

Because there is no other explanation for the amount of switch ports

mystic eagle
halcyon seal
#

I think Xenoblade is like that right

mystic eagle
#

and Pikmin

halcyon seal
#

With Xenoblade X remaster

halcyon seal
mystic eagle
mystic eagle
halcyon seal
#

Oh right the bundle

#

I think most 3D Marios are on switch as well

pseudo vector
#

anyways uhhhhh this is very calamitous

dull heart
#

so true

halcyon seal
#

Itโ€™s just missing like, 3D Land

halcyon seal
mystic eagle
mystic eagle
pseudo vector
#

guys i made some new sounds for rev+ brain of cthulhu and i used my voice to make some of the sounds

dull heart
#

I finished Stratus Sphere visuals

#

I did not use my voice to do it

pseudo vector
#

am i technically the voice of the brain of cthulhu

mystic eagle
#

CDMusic voices Brain of Cthulhu in the Calamity movie

pseudo vector
halcyon seal
mystic eagle
pseudo vector
#

when big e is done with rev+ boc maybe

lavish otter
#

๐Ÿฅบ

lapis oak
#

Ok

pseudo vector
#

that's moreso up to him than me

lapis oak
halcyon seal
#

If rev brain manages to be an actually cool fight I will be so impressed

#

Literally zero good brains across all of modded terraria

dull heart
lapis oak
#

Yes yes

#

Gimme

lavish otter
halcyon seal
lavish otter
#

Ah true, true

dull heart
halcyon seal
#

Oh thats so sick

lapis oak
#

WTF

#

that's gonna be PIXELAted???

dull heart
#

no

valid crypt
lapis oak
#

Oh

dull heart
#

that's an old version

lapis oak
#

Oh this is ver 3??

dull heart
#

the newer version is better and then also got hit by the pixelation

dull heart
valid crypt
lapis oak
lapis oak
#

Secret patron

#

Spit on your face

valid crypt
dull heart
#

I did show version 3 in Patreon a little bit ago

#

But they're not in Patreon...

lapis oak
#

I fucking knew it

dull heart
#

sus

vivid hemlock
#

kiri you are a machine you would die to any water contact

lapis oak
#

What

#

Sus

lavish otter
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Honestly I'm glad about the pixelation thing too, because the only issue I had with that version was that while it looked pretty good, the effect and the sprite in the middle were way incongruent with each other

halcyon seal
valid crypt
mystic eagle
valid crypt
lavish otter
halcyon seal
mystic eagle
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The weapon that makes you hate christmas

dull heart
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once I get some final feedback on v4 of the sphere I'll show it in Patreon

hasty tangle
lapis oak
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๐Ÿ˜” patron gated

mystic eagle
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Why am I part of the SERVER

hasty tangle
valid crypt