#calamity-update-talk
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this place is so weird
- jane weird, 2025
is yours the angel devil?
hes cunty i like him
have u read the manga
its like some king of Brand of the Brimstone Witch
maybe i should...
its pretty short
ya
the sound design was awesome but i love all of it
the movie is really good too
kiriscule you can't rebell i have cookies
@lapis oak don't rebell i have cookies
rebel
i am removing your spine
good luck
Not again
This is @fringe quiver's fault
sorry about that
Tomorrow's another day
Ben shapiro owns yharim with facts and logic [EPIC LIB FAIL COMPILATION #99]
Xenocrona...that name feels familiar
does anyone have the nanoblack reaper spoiler
i decided to start reading the chainsaw man manga
i was sick one day so i watched the entire anime, movie, and read the whole thing
it was good
fire
fair
chainsaw man is peak
i need new season
that was my first impression lol
plus the sound design in the anime is
a large part of why i like it, to say the least
I do miss the style of the anime in the movie but the new style worked well for what they were doing
truth
anime with good dubs are my favorite
like kaguya-sama or rascal
WAIT I need to rewatch rascal s2 now that the dub's out
S2 felt a lot worse to me than s1 but I realized it was probably bc it was subbed not dubned
CIT and Altix
yoo doze who is that in your profile picture?
amelia from "My Status as an Assassin Obviously Exceeds the Hero's"
what the fuck is that title
it's another isekai but the artstyle is so gorgeous
well you see, he's an assassin and his status obviously exeeds the hero
you should see the one anime title this season
lemme go find it
The shortened title is "My Gift Lvl 9999 Unlimited Gacha: Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon, I'm Out for Revenge!"
the full title?
Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Trusted Companions Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to the Gift of an Infinite Gacha, I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge against My Former Party Members and the World
havent been able to watch
I wanted to go to theaters
but guess waht
when it launched i was BROKE AS FUCK and couldnt
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rip
then when i got paid it was already out
@modern grove Benefactor-ahh sounding name
imma just watch it pirated whenever a good version of that come out ๐ญ
Can confirm, the movie was great (I've never seen anything about CSM other than it)
Lol??/
You should try giving the s1 of the anime a watch
Csm is great because on the surface it seems like goofy shallow Fuck It We Ball manga but it's actually got alot of layers while STILL being goofy as fuck
Like it's the sort of manga that when you first read just seems like relatively goofy fun but if you stop to think about shit you realize Oh.
Denji is lowk the best example of that himself
true?
i didn't even wait for a good one
i want to go to theatres but i have no practical way to do that
Perhaps, if I have the time
did you watch it on one of those like super grainy pirated versions lmao
The shark guy was so peak....
don't have my own car and if i wanna use one of my family's cars i'd need to explain why
My favorite character was ironically Angel
and my parents would not be happy about it if they knew what i was going to see
do it do it
I say "if I have the time" as I read a school text at 01:39 AM for the 7 AM class
csm is so peak
i'm glad reze arc is blowing up
i've seen way too many really good animes die early
um
the tragedy of things like No Game No Life
?
Its nice seeing well written series getting the success they deserve
Its true
because thats far from guaranteed to happen
I love to see how csm is popular again, reminds me of when s1 first released
yeah
Csm is probably like, my 4th favorite manga/anime
what i wouldn't give for no game no life season 2
beaten only by kill la kill, evangelion and madoka
it is probably my #11
one piece is really damn good too tho, rebecca convinced me to readit
or #12 depending on the day
i'm so sorry for you
hard to really judge jjba as a singular thing
different parts vary so much in tone and characters
jjba might still be my #5 depending on the part and how im feeling
i got her into limbus, its only fair
equivalent exchange
i could list my top 4 probably but 5-10 is so idk how i'd order them
understandable
same lmao
toradora is my favorite one though, then fragrant flower
1 is madoka, 2 is evangelion, 3 is kill la kill, 4 is csm
after that uhhhhhhhhh good question
my favorite manga is one piece solely owing to it being the only manga ive ever read
my third is one that makes me have to go "I can explain" before i mention it, crying
because the title is "days with my stepsister"
Hehehe
Blowing up
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I CAN EXPLAIN
Brother.
you would certainly need to !
doze I love ya man but im side-eyeing you hard right now
i'm trying to think of how to explain this succinctly uh
basically, it feels like a film festival film
doze i don't think you're making this better
it does exposition with an extreme amount of show, not tell
it also doesn't have stuff that's really sus in it! they avoid the usual fanservice stuff!
yeah that implies unusual fanservice stuff which is scarier
no ๐ญ
"instead of the usual fanservice they opt for a more creative approach to fanservice"
honestly the only film i can think of to compare it to is literally skinamarink
which is wild
because the genre is SO different
but the same things i love about skinamarink are what i love about this
LMAO
The evil TV?
i would assume so based off the title of the manga and the fact that ive watched part of skinamarink
I don't remember skinamarink
jesus is typing...
Skinamarink also takes very creative approaches to shots and such
my favorite shot in that entire anime that I don't want to repeat the name of is one that's mostly just blank walls with the family at a table eating in the backgound
no talking, but it just sits there
like way too long to be comfortable
it does a really good job at conveying something is wrong
tldr it rises to that spot almost entirely because I love the direction of the show a ton
you aren't allowed embeds
you should give me embed perms
also it's the first anime where I saw something that made me think "That's what love actually is" (not-romantic love in this context)
stepsiblingly love I take it?
that doesnt have any better connotations
i'll give you trial mod i think that comes with embed perms
yesss goatchi
oh god responsibilities never mind dont give me embed perms if thats the baggage that comes with

bocchi not being top 1 was a very tight battle i'm not gonna lie
Tis good!
I can see that
i should watch bocchi the rock at some point but also im too lazy to ๐ดโโ ๏ธ
and #5 is probably Shiki
but it could be rascal or frieren or apothecary diaries depending on the day
shiki likely takes it off of my love for a few ways it does a very good job of making you think without spelling out what it's saying
highly reccomend to anyone who likes horror
theres a lot of stuff i want to watch but im too lazy to ๐ดโโ ๏ธ actually its not just bocchi
theres a lot of stuff i want to watch but i just don't have the time
my planning list has somewhere between 60-80 i think
makes sense
honestly i think i need to split my watched anime tiering into more specific divisions
or something
or i should make video essays
would be a good way to organize and express my thoughts on some of the ones that have stuck with me more like Takopi's Original Sin, Shiki, Darling in the Franxx
That's the vampire one yeah?
YES
I enjoyed it a lot when I saw it, but that was a good but ago
I'm so glad I went into it totally blind
It wasn't amazingly written or anything imo, but it was fun and had deeper themes when you looked
The writing didn't stand out a ton in general, but it was one of the few anime that always left me guessing on what would actually happen
the last half I think was where it really hit its stride because it was able to work with what it had built up in the first half
I especially liked the ending
yeah the ending was perfect for it
The way I was hoping it would end changed a lot as the series progressed but it ended up ending exactly right
I think specifically the most interesting thing it made me ask myself was (for anyone who has any interest in Shiki, go watch it before spoiling yourself) ||how the humans slowly turned into arguably being more monstrous than the vampires, and therefore thinking if they really deserved to even get out of the story fine||
Endings that tie everything together and recontextualize the entire show you just watched are my favorite. I know there's a few I've loved, but the big one that comes to mind atm is code geass. Tokyo ghoul has a ton of moments like these sprinkled throughout as well (I know the narrative was pretty repeatedly beaten in, but the Jason torture scene mirroring the entire show is one example) even if the ending wasn't amazing.
Yeah, I think those are always very fun endings
Tokyo ghoul is also incredibly interesting when viewed through the lens of gender or race, but I won't get too nerdy on you.
I haven't actually seen it yet but i need to eventually
The manga is a lot better for most of it imo, but really just the last season is the only one I feel the anime was bad for
Despite its flaws it's one of my favorite pieces of media of all time
Tokyo Ghoul anime
I'm considering specifically starting another show specifically that I know will leave me with that post anime depression like toradora did
but issue is I started Plastic Memories for that exact purpose and now I don't wanna finish it because I love the characters too much to let it end ๐ญ
Season one is solid, and the rest is fine except the final season which does suck. It's all pretty objectively worse than the manga, but I don't think the seasons outside the last one are that bad.
Made in Abyss holds my #1 spot, and either Monogatari or Mob Psycho 100 is probably #2 with the other at #3, but I'm not sure where to place my other favorites besides a non numbered list
Re Zero, O Maidens in Our Savage Season, Soul Eater (Paritally nostalgia carried), and 100 Girlfriends
#1 FMA
#2 FMA
#3 FMA
#4 JJK
ive been told to watch made in a byss
You're NEVER seeing Soul Eater remake unfortunately
It's never getting FMAB treatment
In mine, too
finding out my my goat is washed on the 2nd rinse cycle
Too bad everyone is too invested into producing another season of that one time I got turned into shit poop that defeated the demon lord in a dimension full of cute snake girls
calamity spoiler talk
also yeah wtfs up with that
all shitty isekais are named like that
i guess that's fitting actually
mfers dont even have originality to come up with a name
it was fire when captain underpants did it
You see the new episode of My Gift Lvl 9999 Unlimited Gacha: Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon, I'm Out for Revenge!
(real show)
(shortened title)
i never even realized that was why
i figured it was some weird fad
but i guess it makes more sense that its unoriginal mfs
Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge. is the old title
could also just be making short snappy names is also kinda hard
especially if you dont want your anime to be titled [Main Character Name]
Kagurabachi
Featuring
Kagurabachi
Join Natsu and his friends in
Lucy Heartfillia
because imma be honest thats kinda as much of a cop out as a super long name
Does it still count as a cop out if its the love interest and not the MC
if the title of the series is just the name of one of the characters in it id say probably
My life with Yamada-Kun at lvl999
Kamen rider is technically named after the main character
i'd rather take Naruto than Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge
Though honestly Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge is like so fucking abysmal thta it looks around into being peak
Im thinking about giving it a chance but man, i've heard the manga is straight ass
Typical noob to god manga that doesn't really change from the status quo
Pretty sure I've read like the first 10 chapters of the manga, and it was straight ass
And I'm an isekai slop enjoyer so that says a lot
Thats so real, theres some really good isekai slop out there
Real calamity spoiler hours
slop
my favorite is still zenshu as far as originality goes
byeah i dont like the statement of "new isekai titles are so bad because they're unoriginal" or whatever when no. thats not why they're bad. the titles are bad in surprising new undiscovered ways
sob
Ok fine...., I should actually do my job. Everyone please return to being on topic for the channel, or move to another channel please. I know the guidelines for what is "on topic" in times of spoiler "drought" is pretty vague and loose, but this is squarely outside of it.
no you dont need to listen to the voices
Thats not entirely what I mean, I meant the actual content is genuinely original
did you know that theyre removing murasama in sso?
Calamity spoiler talk
tomorrow is another day
we need to ban amidiasposting its genuinely not funny anymore
This is exactly what I meant by what is on topic being vague cause like......
I just got an idea, a miracle matter spatula replacing exoblade
the easiest way to make something no longer funny is to spam it everywhere
its not about being funny
and thats exactly whats been happening here for the past what month and a half
then what is it about
idk
then stop posting it
Back in my day amidas posting was funny
you need the krusty krab secret formula to craft it, which you can find at the krusty krab in the sunken sea
if you cannot genuinely determine a point for continuing something, stop continuing it
Yeah back in your day it wasn't milked dry and beaten to death like an old frail horse
does anybody want to discuss the spoilers
or are we going to fill this channel with anime discussion for no reason
Calamity community edition type idea
Do you have any new spoilers?
I dont
this is beautiful
yes
I assume she's getting a rework to compensate..?
no she just has the box
which doesnt actually change all that much about the fight because im pretty sure scals moveset would be nearly identical without the box
I'm assuming it'll be a larger box than the SCal one though, right?
Since using the same size as the SCal box makes the fight pretty weird (especially brothers)
Or maybe she'll be getting some smaller tweaks rather than a full rework idk
there is a chance the arena will be changing its size
cuz doze said he could replicate sans fight in it
imagine if dragonfolly had a cool boss background where it was a red lightning thunderstorm
dragonfolly don't got enough sauce for allat
i mean
true
but all bosses should have cool bgs...
i mean, if taking into what i've heard for the ideas of what dragonfolly will be like in its pre-hm rework, well
it might just fit
dragonfolly should lowkey have a giant lightning barrage from the sky
that would be sick
asriel style
yall i hope the exo tank is just completely ground-bound
so i can like sit on the bottom of the arena and absolutely eat her projectiles to the face while slowly moving around and shooting her
i think it would be interesting if the exo tank had like lower mobility but actively boosted your defense or something
i didnt know bumblebirb was still getting slimed fr
that's kind of what a tank is actually
yeah
i just wonder how they're gonna implement it
i will use my exo tank and my exo tank armor and i will use my sponge and i will use my rampart of deities and i will use my chalice of the blood god and i will use my
imagine if calamity mod boots branched into either the tracers or dash boots like enigma
this isnt the same thing but kinda neat
Well we actually know it's gonna deal a lot of damage and crippled movement
speaking of, is the gravistar sabaton rework in the doc
Like what?
Also, is the hydrothermic armor design that's in the doc still (more or less) accurate?
(Yes, I know it's a WIP, but like in general
)
is master death going to be more fun and challenging with bosses without them being too much stat-inflated and dealing enormous amounts of damage? i hate when bosses are hard in an annoying way instead of fun one
for now the statflation and enormous damage is a characteristic of master, though the worse (vanilla bosses get crack in master) is getting resolved in SSO 1
further down the line they will refine master
and by fun i mean dynamic, sorta bullet hell (interesting attack patterns and phases instead of more independent ai), satisfying, and visually good
as of now you're kinda stuck with fabsolian design
Huh? I didn't realize that, didn't notice it was his design
vanilla bosses getting crack was his design
and DoG head almost insta kill thing in master too
probably
I actually hate that thing, it's so funny that evil 2 bosses are way easier than lower-tier vanilla ones
i meant i prefer something infernum-like
i thought he does that in every difficulty, but i might be wrong

almost doubling contact damage on all part on master compared to death
Okay my jaw just dropped
HOW DOES HE DEAL OVER 1K DAMAGE
with the head
"perfectly balanced"
i mean it was worse but now he seemed to remember the ol' day
(dog head used to insta kill you, straight up, in death)
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SSO then clock strikes midnight
sso then sso part 2
actually, i like the idea (even if it's just an idea that might not be implemented at all) of slime god changing places with cal clone in progression, it just feels right and sg before queen slime is a bit underwhelming (similar situation to evil 2 bosses but they are getting put post moonlord tho)
and the cal clone seems pretty interesting to be put before the wall of flesh
but not sure if that would make sense lore wise when brimstone elemental is before her
Calclone has little relation to brimmy other then both being brimstone and related to scal kinda
Kinda interesting to have a clone of calamitas made by draedon before yharim's first method of storing god essence, and then later having calamitas and draedon's creations before yharim
History repeats itself lol
hrllo calamity poiler talk
Hai
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Those are removed next update
r the sea bunnies in yet
sso bot out
Dont shoot the messenger smh
another boots line
Yes
I was saying it before but I think overall it would be a lot more impactful if calclone didn't exist and in her place there was scal fight 1
Some sort of introduction to the character
Why would she not fucking kill you
And the fight is under very different circumstances compared to her proper fight in the end of the game
Why would she fight you in general
Even lyrics of SBC are written with the refright in mind I feel like
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You can come up with a lot of different reasons. She doesn't see you as a treat, the first fight could have been not intentional, she spares you. You just need to work around it and it would take effort but in the end I think it would be a lot more impactful than calclone existing
Gimme a sec
is this big enough arena for providence
I had this convo already and don't want to type all again
Fair
@modern grove HAIII THROUDON
Opening lyrics are "no more holding back <...> they thought they were invincible", " Something tells you they have scaled in their power" etc to me imply an existence of the previous battle where we fought calamitas and won or at least didn't die but now she wants to kill us for real
Hi hello
Ok i see it yeah
Plus the way calamity was developed
When calclone was original calamitas
And then scal was added as a stronger version
I don't think fabsol thought too hard about it but to me it seems like in the narrative of Dokuro songs the implications are
It's a rematch
Fabsolian boss creation
How would you imply she was trying to be better but something went wrong in the first encounter? That sounds quite similar to the situation in the actual fight, and that doesn't really sell it
Also, wouldn't it be ideal to have signs of her improvement outside just boss fights
what rework
if you mean that concept art its just that concept art
Maybe take it more symbolically than seriously or whatever
She's not trying to be better through a fight (first at least), she was doing something different that could be interpreted as some evil activity or being helpful. I don't have the brainpower to think about it rn but surely you can come up with anything
there isnt much symbolism there tho it directly implies a rematch kinda
meow
haii azzy
haiiiiiiii
Hai
I just also think having calclone be replaced with scal fight 1 would be cool as hell if done right
she spares you
Wait so like, a scripted loss? I mean Iโm not against it but how would that even work with a terraria boss
scripted losses are lame
I think they can be very cool if done right
But also after reading everything here, I think Calclone still just makes more sense
I mean, if Calclone didnโt exist, then sure scal 1
could be like exo mechs fight where draedon talks with you at the end
but if you hit her she kills you lol
and if you dont she spares u
what do you think scal does in her current fight

i mean id assume shes actually trying to kill us
since yk shes (one of) the final boss
i guess? ill admit im really not that well versed in lore but to me it feels more like the terrarian is sparing her atm
Calamitas realises you are not yharim 2 and so stops the fight
Could the fight go on more? Maybe
Would it be likely you win and kill her if so? Yeah
Ah ok thanks
I'm merely pointing out that having Calclone be an SCal fight doesn't change much about how you need to solve her morality presentation issue
Tbh i think in the same vein you can say "You can come up with something cool for Scal fight 1 being calclone"
you can say "You can come up with something cool for calclone"
And it'd be less of a headache too
I can't think of a way to make calclone > scal 1 make much sense, honestly. Yeah i do agree Cal absolutely needs more presence hereslf to some extent but i don't think making her fight you early on is it
I think that greatly diminishes the impact of her eventual endgame fight
And not to mention i don't think it fits her character very well
Like imagine if you fought Yharim early on because he was "testing" you or something like that
It's kind of the same thing
You're having a extremely powerful character whose fight is supposed to come around the end and be a big climatic moment fight you early on in a much weaker state, thus greatly reducing their eventual fight's impact
Yarim
And not to mention that it, again, dosen't make much Narrative sense, as much like how Yharim wouldn't have any reason to fight you early on, as you are still not notable enough to catch his attention, neither does Calamitas have any reason to pay any mind to you initially
Lamitas
Calclone herself can already very easily lead into a interesting narrative without a need for much of a headache honestly
I mean, she's a clone
She's literally Someone Else, her identity, her history, it's all based on things she didn't do and someone who isn't her
The identity crisis and existentialism writes itself
And given Calamity's story has a major theme of Making Your Own Choices, yeah a clone can fit really well into that, i think
Chhese yap
changelogs tomorrow
Illiterate people:
on god can we just let trasher stacking be gfb exclusive?
Whats that
no
we need less random gfb jank
MORE gfb jank MORE MORE
what defines gfb jank
just like random weird shit or does the actually funny stuff also count as jank
guys
i think we might get half life 3 announcement before sso
no its not a joke im serious
depends
mostly the weird stuff that's really not that funny or just an inside joke
yeah that stuffs lame
can you guys replace it with making yharon a giant hog in gfb instead
Like Lacerator dog is peak
but like, the random noise changes with no real reason kinda suck
Roar of the Jungle Hog 
first steam desk, now hl 3
valve is farming ws it seems
changehogs tomorrow
Speaking of, if the swap does happen, will slime god still flee after the fight?
flee where?
no
the fleeing only happens because the writers had to explain what the hell queen slime is
the swap would fix this issue since it would put sg firmly after qs
I'll admit, while that makes a decent amount of sense, I actually kind of liked that detail
Changedogs tomorrow
anyway yeah changeblobs tomorrow
I mean, I guess the idea of a boss fleeing just so you can fight it in another form later isn't that unique, but I thought the idea that SG survived so long just because they're a slippery son of a salamander and never finish their fights, doing the same thing with you, was cool for character building
the biggest problem was that... queen slime was the refight
But yeah, the fact that it was to justify Queen Slime is...I get why it'd be removed
Clearly we should fight Slime God three times.
Though that does remind me of an interesting idea I heard before the retier was suggested, where at the end of the Queen Slime fight, the core would leap out of her and try rolling away, giving you a chance to kill the little bugger directly as it's trying to flee again
Which I thought was cool, even if...again, it's bogged down a bit by it beiing in the context of following Queen Slime's fight
i actually like the idea of the refight, but since it would have to be under the constraints of qs i just vastly prefer the tier swap
simply have the refight be slime god and qs be the prelude
I like the tier swap because calclone bullet hells in prehardmode mobility gear sound fun
Also sort of a problem with the refight thing, now that I'm thinking about it, is that unless you lock progression behind the first fight...it's entirely possible that you'll just skip it and not realize
Which would be even more possible if Queen Slime was the prelude, honestly, because she's really missable and all around pretty insignificant
I have one major con for the retier
no more buzzkill on clone
buzzkill in the arena is SO FUN
there's a lot of fun options for clone at her current tier with the arena
those get lost with the retier
Whatโs happening with clone
waterbolt maybe
WAIT
rogue would love this
Tracking Disc
Gel Darts
She learned how to make walls.
tracking disc is reworked
Is she getting retiered
Gel Darts are tied to slime god
#changelogs the last batch
aint it still swarm deleter tho
would be amazing for the bros or seekers
Potentially being shifted down to Slime God's tier in progression
It's not confirmed to be happening, but I don't think anyone in the team is particularly against it
I saw that yeah
Oh
Cool
Is she getting resprited
ah rip, altho if its early hm we have those for the worms now ๐ฅ
*resprited
Water Bolt would be a good bouncing thing though
That's a definite, I just don't think there's a concrete design yet
compared to post mechs though
anyways rogue always finds a way to have fun
Buzzkill, Chloro Arrow, Light Disc, Crystal Darts, Cursed Flames
All come to mind
Ooh flower of fire for mage
in the retier
Like with ๐Kelvin Catalyst๐
Rotball, Hardened Honeycomb, Tooth ball, Metal Monstrosity for rogue in the retier
rotball is almost definitely being killed by retier
Maybe Glaive once that gets tweaked/reworked
the other retier
Glaive stealth strike should give me orbital glaives like glaive lord
It would be so peak
ah true, at least we could make it not rogue crimson/nimbus rod on the stealth
nah, that prob for something later
lets give it a [data expunged] so its like Turbocharge
Blazing star could get more stuff like the orbital glaives
I think that having the spam be glaive ricochet and then the stealth being glaive lord would be so perfect for that tier
actually why tf does this not have a later upgrade like Frostcrush (goes into Celestus) or Cinqueda (ends up all the way to Deific Thunderbolt or whatever its called iirc)
Actually, speaking of! So we have CalClone-Slime God and Evil2-Bumblefuck as the main retiers that aren't definite but are probably going to happen, but are there any other retier ideas floating around?
I'd guess not, but I might as well ask
Swap King Slime and Yharon, obviously.
turbo charge I'd feel like would be better referenced by Kylie tbh
Kylie is the third path tho
besides, it's not like burning star couldn't add onto the orbitals
Moab press
yeah but Moab Press makes 0 sense to use
stun
unless it's explicitly not for bosses
and comical knockback on non bosses
or we just want it to be use stealth once every 30 seconds
It is surface chest so maybe
that could be changed... on upgrades
we already had the insanity that is prenerf web ball
currently that's hardcoded into the boss stun system
if that even stays
tbh i think we could change it to be proportional to how long the stun was
like smth with a big stun gets big cooldown
probably
but 0.5 sec stuns shouldnt have 30 sec cooldown
anyhow, I also don't think that going from turbo charge to orbitals in the upgrade makes much sense
especially since they make shit that can actually combo with a strong stun useless (see alfame enchant)
That's a complete change in the functionality of the line
the thing that starts with F that is [data expunged]
Oh yeah, I think the future content doc notes that Primordial Wyrm might be moved, I think.
yeah I know
altho yep prob better to use bouncing
I hate to say it but I guess it's the case of "you don't see the vision" ... And I'm not rlly capable enough nor do I want to to describe it cohesively and better
Ah rigghht, I remember that
the F can go on other weapons at that tier
but I don't think glaive would benefit from that specifically yeah
metal monstrosity for example
that might be a fun one
probably
the stealth currently is dogshit so it could 100% use that
and could be a slow [that] compared to Mycorroot, Cosmic Kunai and others
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't that her describing the vision?
I think glaive being a weak glaive ricochet and then stealth being turned into orbital glaives + a better bounce that inflicts like, heavy bleeding on its primary target would be fun
I was talking about my points
heavy bleeding could maybe be too much at that tier but does sound fun
Ahhh I see!
considering that is post-plant/clone iirc
well, glaive's dmg would be balanced around that

Real glaive lord's dmg primarily comes from the 1k DPS shred in bloons
this would also prevent it being ultra CC nightmare as only one target gets most of the dmg
also speaking of CC, maybe that change to CC could be peak for stuff like hypothermia so people use it properly, especially with the changes to Raider's and Vamp Talisman
Cal has some bad CC problems lol
Prob nerf the duration to compensate (pretty sure its the longest stun after web ball's stun was rightfully executed for its crimes)
violence has 5 seconds of vhex :)
When Im not shackled by time and responsabilities im up to starting the F if 1.4.5 hasnt come out (or maybe even if it comes out since its likely manpower goes back to summoner)
Prob dealing with Cosmic Kunai first since I promised it to the people here, then maybe my dev weapon or Terror Talons
honestly I think the next update after 2.1 being primarily rebalancing rogue and summoner might be a good idea
but we'll see when we get there
we will
at least the wait for 1.4.5 is almost over so we can finally make summoner plans
Yes, so much has been stalled by waiting for that thing, quite the unfortunate situation innit?
anyways i should probably get back to work, homework aint doing itself
altho I feel like playing MC for a while to free my head a little bit
innit
I think it's more so that your vision fundamentally is just kinda entirely different from what calamity is trying to do. That is not to say it's "worse", but i don't think it's better either, it's just different
It could work i'm sure, but i don't think it could work with what calamity's story is
Yes it's different
For this crime, you're being sentenced to the entity
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Like it really wouldn't make sense with Calamitas's character, with in turn would require her to be characterized differently, etc
It's less of a "this would make the lore better!" and more of a "this an idea of the way i'd write things"
Just to explain better what i mean
tbf it could still happen
depending on wtf they do with slime god
slop god
hate that guy
#1 slime god hater
Could still run away if they want to keep slime god alive and/or further show its cowardly nature
It dosen't necessarily have to mean a rematch if it's follwed up in some way later
maybe statis quest stuff or smth idk
squidgame
true
based
I might just go mess around with a glaive rework after I get off work today to see if it feels good
WAIT NO I need to do school
Grahh
...y'know, that actually would be a pretty good way to make sure you fought it the first time before going into the rematch

What rematch?
There wouldn't be a rematch if the boss swap happens :p
Oh wait, right, my eyes skipped over the part where you said it didn't have to mean a rematch
I was just thinking earlier about how one of the issues with Slime God as it is right now is that it's entirely possible to just...skip Slime God and fight Queen Slime first, so I was wondering how you could make sure someone does the initial fight first outside of locking game progression behind it
I think most people don't like the queen slime remathc as a concept, including developers, for far more reasons than just that
Of course, but it is one
Okay so if fleeing will be gone I have an idea
"Goes into Celestus"
No it doesn't?
Slime god will become a wandering npc that sells you biome solutions for free
he will sell you graveyard solution that turns any biome into a graveyard and nothing else
1 platinum each
I'm in
wonderful
What's your dev weapon btw?
Since it's been in consideration that we'll be able to spare some bosses (like cnidrion and calclone) (not sure if the current scal counts
), I think another good candidate for this mechanic would be slime god
I mean, think about it. We only fight like three actual gods in the game (slime god, ravager and providence), and sg is the only one that can be considered "good" or at least lawful neutral, with him keeping his form from growing out of control and being revered as a paragon of balance. And with the theme of choices, if you'll be able to spare him this will probably be the biggest showcase (not sure what the right word is) that your path is different from Yharim's
used to
too early to show, still in concept phase
calamity mod
calamity-epoiler-talk
calamity-poiler-talk
does bro know
nope, explain
that's literally not even how omniblade works in calamity
love spreading misinformation all over the place
yeah like why is it so low?
Omniblade is ass
that was literally four years ago
i guess if grand guardian is in a tier then that makes sense
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WELL IM SORRY I DONT LIKE HAVING A FUCKING ANEURYSM TRYING TO HIT THINGS
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Though time has gone on, and many updates have arisen
Through our calamities, our spoilers, and our talks
There are changes yet to be logged
Iโm going to fucking lose it
No worries, I'll find it for you
I think some of you guys should take a look into the mirror and do some self reflection
Amidias, Madman king of the deep
Too far gone after SSO part 1 was not infact in Sept/Oct, transforming from sheer dellusion
saved!
thanks for sharing, good samaritan โค๏ธ
Find what my sanity? Try finding the holy grail first
Writing on fire
Adrift Soul, Sovereign of Naught, King Amidias
I punched my mirror
Soulsborne ah boss title
May we hope for November/December, else...a cataclysm may arise
how do we tell him...
You could even call him a Drifting Soul
Maybe even a catastrophe 
Drifting in the ocean all alone 
That cataclysm will be me with a knife after going batshit insane from the cursed sea kings
lovely
Born from the wretched catalystโข
january-februar
Remember when the devs estimated that SSO would release in February?
Maybe they meant February 2026
Wait- jokes aside, was that actually a prediction in the past?
yes
also
God damn, if only they knew
Predictions from devs go as early as 2024
then delayed cuz of the incident but hey working conditions improved
poorly aged messages moment
"I don't expect it to come out next year"
"We still have 8 damn months and a pretty solid amount of work has been done already"
"1.5 is way too fucking big and I doubt we will ever make an update as large as it ever again"
Got damn rebecca
Well she was right with the first one
Hey
1.4.5 being announced
The incident
Devs leaving
People taking breaks due to irl stuff (like me)
People getting older and not having as much free time to work
They said they don't expect it to come out 2025
2026 is on the table with that message
and etc which ended up delaying stuff
that's what I'm saying
2026 is def on the table for part 1 maybe
sso might have spanned from 2nd year to 4th year for me which is wild
that's unlikely to be the case
and I dont expect part 2 to take too long unless Red pulls smth that makes summoner balancing worse
at least the origin of it
When did SSO get conceptualized
Which one comes first
Half life 3 announcement or sso release
pre-22
before 22
well the actual sso started
geez
probably in 2020 if i have to guess
Irrc after release of draedon update
Actually speaking of, would you say more of that was directly due to the incident, or a result of how because of that, you guys were suddenly allowed to be a lot more creative with the mod moving forward?
actually planned after 1.5
2022, I was in the 2nd year of high school back then 
funny how b4 I was just a free uni student and now... taking a masters degree lmao
but after 2 ports it's resumed the next intended content update
I should forward yuh message give me second
DS went from entirely done to a full ground up rework
plus 22
so yes
so id actually consider post-port the start of modern sso
Fastforward three years and I'm in the 5th year of highschool
What in the hell?
yep
I wasn't even allowed on discord back then
Sob
actually several incidents caused delays such as B, which caused nuking of a lot of stuff and especially F which yea...
But yes we are now allowed to be more creative and expressive
What are B and F if I may ask
I think the only thing that might be a SSO delay caused by 25 is Desert Scourge tbh
Bird fabsol
Y'know, this is kind of unrelated, but I think one of the worst parts of the rise of AI is how when you're writing out a concise list now, you have to worry about it seeming like it was written by ChatGPT
oh
i doubt it
Devourer of Gods?
dog didn't delay anything
in fact i think fabsert scourge is gonna be undercooked and done really fast
This is in part a personal thing though, because I worry about sounding like an AI myself...basically daily
and might be predestined that no one spoke out about it
because that's just how it was
going to put you an ai checker
Doubt DS will be a delay, or doubt that it'll be the only delay caused by 25
Well DoG was in an even worse state compared to the current directly after 25
Ahhh right...at least it seems like things are trucking along though, which is always nice
yes but that doesn't change the fact that dog work didn't take any resources from SSO work
DoG in-dev is doing very good rn
oh
this kind of gets at something though
there's a lot more thought being put into boss content which means more workforce concentrated
altho idk what will happen with the resprite but hey the surprise is pretty much good for now
from everyone
I really want to see it but I'm greeddyyyyy (nearly broke) so I'm not buying a Patreon thingy
and also the fact that we get to actually consider the design
speaking of delays i hope you people are ready for nothing to get done for the next month (our collective is alloyed)
and testing too
TOMORROW
TOMORROW
What
what
altho i have a lot of shit to do and timezones so thats unfortunate
ror2 dlc drops tomorrow
at least I will turn 22 on friday
oh
hi charlie
hi
Oh ok
sir another game drop has hit the calamity dev team
Uh oh
Watch out for the Nightreign DLC
i will definitely be copping alloyed collective, playing for many hours and definitely ruining my already fragile sleep schedule
good thing i dont play elden ring
Hades II
oh and metroid prime 4 in a few weeks too
i literally cleared my schedule for tomorrow so i could spend all day playing it lol
Also Air Riders on thursday
I don't think a single of these big releases has caused me to work on cal less at all
these game devs need to stop putting out such peak fiction
wait like the full game?
yeah
Because you don't work on call at all?/j
Yes
huh???
zzz 2 drops in 5 days
there is 6 days left on the events though what
I'm so excited to get a Switch 2 in 2027 as I have exams on my bucket list for god knows how long
im done taking setbacks from game drops
that was a joke lol
they announced the release date in the first dedicated air riders direct
get your days right smh
Yes but, announcements =/= starting development
hi done taking setbacks from game drops
instead ill have the finals setback coming in a week
thing is that even when the next big zzz update drops it won't actually take much of my time
yeah fair
then they showed off a crazy amount of stuff in the second air riders direct a few weeks ago
Air Riders started development during the Fighters pass DLC for SSBU
chaos zero nightmare has been more of a time drain the last while than ZZZ has
just thought it'd be cooking for longer but ig it was already in the works for a while
im in break (and have a very important proyect delivery that day) so nothing will happen unfortunately
and the first direct 3 months ago
oh yeah and there's a big infinity nikki update soon so that's also going to be taking up my time
damn alright then
that makes more sense
thats awesome
oh Limbus Update too (RR1 bokgak (did i spell it right?)), that will take Limbus player's time
i dont even know whats switch 2 exclusive thats any appealing to get a switch 2 for
So far Bananza and soonly, Air Riders
January also has Canto 9 so yep
I mean thereโs Bananza and thats it
yea dont, just use Switch 1
feels like it needs more than just a handful to be worth
i won't be getting a switch 2 until smth crazy drops for it exclusively
I won't be getting a switch 2
Tbf the Switch had no exclusives until Mario Odyssey which released in fall 2017 iirc
But nobody had a Wii U so count BotW in
bananza and mkw are cool but they don't make me want to buy it
Is the switch 2 just the PS5
it pisses me off that (not Bloodborne 2) will be switch only but oh well
however im from a stance where i dont even own a console atm
Not really
Wait botw was not switch first
so like. grain of salt on that
Same time
It simultaneously released on Switch and Wii U
Damn
You can play botw on the wii U?
most made by Nintendo games for the switch are Wii U ports
I have a Wii U, maybe I should look into that...
(why do so many people not know that)
With some quotes around play, yes
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Just donโt play botw for Wii U
Thereโs like a 15 second loading screen for closing the inventory iirc
Like 10% of the Switch first parties are Wii U
Some more are ports
The rest is new
I think Nintendo just looked at the Wii U and said โhey wait a minute we fucked up and actually made good games for this thing on accidentโ
true
Because there is no other explanation for the amount of switch ports
Making sure some series get all their games on 1 console
I think Xenoblade is like that right
and Pikmin
With Xenoblade X remaster
We have Pikmin 1 and 2?
yes and Xenoblade 1 DE
iirc yes
anyways uhhhhh this is very calamitous
so true
Itโs just missing like, 3D Land
Alright Iโll get back on topic, who here knows a good healer build for primordials on master
Yeah that's the only missing one
Calamity Ganon
guys i made some new sounds for rev+ brain of cthulhu and i used my voice to make some of the sounds
I banish thee to #other-mod-talk
am i technically the voice of the brain of cthulhu
CDMusic voices Brain of Cthulhu in the Calamity movie

New section of the credits for voice acting
What the duck
Show...
wdym show sounds
Ooh, could we hear them?
when big e is done with rev+ boc maybe
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Ok
that's moreso up to him than me
Show yours...
If rev brain manages to be an actually cool fight I will be so impressed
Literally zero good brains across all of modded terraria
No but I can show an old version that is worse than the current one
Moon Lord
Including Hypnos?
No thats not boc
Ah true, true
Oh thats so sick
no
YO IT PUBLIC
Oh
that's an old version
Oh this is ver 3??
the newer version is better and then also got hit by the pixelation
Yes
YAAAAAAAAAAAA
How taste
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Im silly
I fucking knew it
sus
kiri you are a machine you would die to any water contact
Honestly I'm glad about the pixelation thing too, because the only issue I had with that version was that while it looked pretty good, the effect and the sprite in the middle were way incongruent with each other
I should do this for more random spoilers
True
It was overall just very messy
What the fhit
Oh god, Discord compression
I am going to green you
The weapon that makes you hate christmas
once I get some final feedback on v4 of the sphere I'll show it in Patreon
compressed it so much it doesnt even exist ๐
๐ patron gated
Why am I part of the SERVER
the bfg 9000 in beta doom versions?
The fuck is server
