calamity-update-talk

[high scaffold]

Must be fake

[shadow sun]

It is a spoiler tho

[high scaffold]

A fake spoiler

Its as real as new desert scourges reconstructed abomination picture

[buoyant pulsar]

i love spoilers

[shadow sun]

Same

[arctic cliff]

Huh. That reminds me.

Alright. Okay. So that containment breach was kinda scary, but luckily I was able to disable the... thing, by adding 1 positron to each of its atoms.

So yeah. @lapis oak turned into an Ogscule. A Kiriscule, if you will.

[dusk bronze]

[dusty tinsel]

All hail Ogscule

The true lifeform

[arctic cliff]

anyways, i think im on the verge of a breakthrough on where the hell amidias.exe is

[azure oak]

Damn

Maybe i'll play crimson for once

[buoyant pulsar]

shoutout to the crimson cause the corruption is just "ooh im purple and scary listen to this funky ass beat while getting eaten by my weird creatures" and then the crimson is all like "A̸̼͑L̷̞̀L̷̖͌ ̷̜̕Ẁ̴͇Ì̸̬L̴̘̓L̷͚̀ ̶̱̈́B̷̫͝Ë̸̲ ̶̣́S̸̪̈UBSUMED"

i mean im a crimson fan but i get corruption fans cause the corruption is lowkey chill as fuck

but i just like the crimson bcuz smth about the very earth you walk on being alive and all of it having the same, synchronized pulse, and also having horrifying flesh creatures is just

fun. to me

[arctic cliff]

i think corruption is meant to be a classic "infectious darkness", with some elements of sickness, but that can feel often generic

crimson? body horror infections always go hard for a reason

[azure oak]

I like corruption more because boc makes me wanna die

[fringe quiver]

In terms of aesthethic preference i'm not sure i have one but i can't lie crimson feels like it's just more well made at times

It has far more enemy variety in both pre hardmode and hardmode

And ichor is just a much more interesting debuff than DoT fire debuff numero three hundred

[fringe quiver]

Which i suppose can be literally just because it's newer

Crimson was 1.2, corruption has been here since launch

[summer shore]

I like red

(colour not person)

[lapis oak]

Real gamer uses random

[fringe quiver]

Even not counting the fact calamity adds MORE onto this list

vanilla has. alot

on fire. hellfire. shadowflame. frostfire. cursed fire.

meanwhile ichor kind of feels a entirely unique role, atleast in vanilla

as a debuff that just makes you Better at killing things since it reduces their defense

[cinder hearth]

Betsy's curse

[fringe quiver]

True i guess there's that but it's only available on like, what, two weapons? And they're locked behind a endgame content alot of people dislike

(I personally actually am a old ones army enjoyer i think it's pretty fun, do wish it was less grindy tho)

(But even then it's undeniable that alot of people. Don't)

[cinder hearth]

One weapon only

Lmao

[wicked temple]

Helo cheeple

[fringe quiver]

Old one's army i think is majorly set back by how grindy it is tbh

That seems to be alot of people's biggest gripe with it

also hai azzy :D go to sleep!!!!

[fringe quiver]

Because ok i still stand by what i say when i think that i think in terms of the actual way it's structured and the roster of enemies

[cinder hearth]

Goodbye azzy

[fringe quiver]

Old one's army is i think one of the more meticulously well designed event in that regard

[cinder hearth]

Gobed

[fringe quiver]

That isn't to say the event is perfect or that people don't have valid reasons to dislike them

But the way old one's army does its enemies is like

Alot better than most other events i feel

Because alot of events just kinda throw a billion enemies at you with no real cohesion between them and while OOA isn't ENTIRELY not at fault in this regard

The unique structure of the event lends itself to diff gameplay from that + More diverse enemy niches

[cinder hearth]

Yeah that's true

I think the fact the armors aren't really popular except maybe squire/Valhalla knight doesn't help

Dark artist isn't bad

But like

[fringe quiver]

Yeahh not many people aren't too interested in multiclass stuff ive noticed

[cinder hearth]

Idk I don't see people use it often

[fringe quiver]

Specially given they have a strong focus on sentriess

Which aren't particularly popular either

Sentries are in a very weird spot because they sorta mix the worst aspects of summoner and Not summoner

[cinder hearth]

Yeah vanilla sentries are kinda shit too

Except the post moon lord ones

[cinder hearth]

I'm interested in this , wdym

[fringe quiver]

One of the reasons people like summoner is the fact you don't have to worry much about actually attacking, letting you focus on dodging attacks and stuff.
One of the reasons people dislike summoner is also that, because they feel like they're not doing as much in actual fights

Sentries kinda get the worst of that

Because on one hand

You're not doing that much. But also you're needing to constantly reposition your sentries

So it ends up being a weird middle ground that dosen't have the benefit of relaxing and not doing that much from regular summoner but also dosen't have the feeling of control and active input every other class has

[cinder hearth]

Hmm, idk about that necessarily

Depends on the boss fight really, vanilla has many bosses you don't necessarily need to move too far from

[fringe quiver]

Tbf it depends on the boss yeah

And also on how invested the player is on building arenas 😭

[cinder hearth]

I think it's mostly because they kinda suck, and 90% of them are behind OOA and are just rehashes of each other

[fringe quiver]

Yeah alot of sentries also just kinda suck

The strongest sentries are all behind OOA

Beyond that you have like, what

frost hydra, spider queen

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cinder hearth]

Houndius shootius
Queen spider staff
Frozen hydra staff

These are the only preML sentries that aren't OOA

[fringe quiver]

yep

frozen hydra is notably. not good

[cinder hearth]

Lunar portal and rainbow crystal are very good but they're behind ML

[fringe quiver]

idk abt houndius shootius but you get it at like, the same point of the game you'd get ooa stuff in

so it has competition there anyways

queen spider is like. fine for grounded enemies but sucks balls for anything that flies

[lapis oak]

real one uses Squirrel Squire Staff (real Terraria weapon) all the way

[fringe quiver]

it's dps in theory isn't bad

but in practice It Is because it has incredibly slow firerate and Not Good aim

very. very bad mix

relogic buff frost hydra staff and my lfie is yours or something

come on it's a dungeon biome chest weapon it should be good

those things are super tedious to get

[cinder hearth]

Tbh like other than vampire knives I don't think any of the dungeon chest weapons are particularly good?

[cobalt wharf]

frost hydra is pretty good in vanilla

[cinder hearth]

Which sucks

[fringe quiver]

Scourge of the corruptor is really damn good

[cobalt wharf]

but calamity just super bloats sentry damage for some reason

[fringe quiver]

I'd say rainbow gun is also v decent

[cinder hearth]

Really? Wouldn't have thought so

[fringe quiver]

Nah i wouldn't even say that tbh

[cinder hearth]

Good to know

[fringe quiver]

Again, good in theory, but in practice it

It's kinda not that good

[cobalt wharf]

it’s only bad for bosses

[fringe quiver]

The low firerate + shitty aim combo is Something

[cobalt wharf]

event clearing it’s a great help

[fringe quiver]

i suppose

[fringe quiver]

Great dps, homing, long range for a melee weapon

It's kinda goated icl

Rainbow gun is also pretty nice since it feels the role of a support weapon for mage

So you can easily use it alongside other weapons for just, extra dps

[cinder hearth]

Well, tbh mage already has quite a few

Of those

[fringe quiver]

It does yeah like nimbus/crimson staves

But rainbow's really good for the tier you get it on

Plus it pierces 500 morbillion enemies so its the horde of enemy mauler 5000

piranha gun is uh. not good

[cinder hearth]

Nimbus, clinger, golden shower, the aforementioned Betsy's curse thing

[fringe quiver]

well ok its like

mediocre

its not HORRIBLE

but like Damn

I mean it has the benefit you have to like barely aim i guess ??? and not use ammo ???

[cobalt wharf]

nah piranha gun is genuinely broken

[fringe quiver]

idk if that's worth losing out on the ability of having ammo with custom properties and just overall kinda not dealing that much damage

sand tiger's fine

its ok

[fringe quiver]

how so

I remember it kinda just being textbook definition mid tbh

[cobalt wharf]

more dps than most on tier options, jumps from enemy to enemy very fast so it’ll just melt most events

stunlocks

[fringe quiver]

i guess yeah

ill be honest i feel like almost every weapon that's like. decent at that point of the game can melt through events icl

Thinking about it now

[cobalt wharf]

most vanilla weapons have limits for multitarget abilities

in calamity…….. yeah

[fringe quiver]

I don't even play calamity i'm talking about vanilla

I can't think of the last time i struggled with events in any meaningful way but it's been a while

I've kinda just been goofying around in my journey mode world

[cobalt wharf]

last time i struggled with an event was 1.4.3 ftw master dying to pumpkin moon over and over again with desert tiger for dark harvest to kill golem (genuine bullshit at this time period)

[fringe quiver]

it's hell torture

[stone fiber]

Guys can someone repost the added/reworked armor list?

[stone fiber]

Thank you

[fringe quiver]

yknow im surprised cryonic is rogue and summoner thinking about it

Summoner has atleast spider queen armor at that point of the game, plus Forbidden armor not too far off

[cinder hearth]

They don't have hardmode ore armors

[fringe quiver]

If anything i'd associate cryonic more with mage given permafrost

[cinder hearth]

That's a pre mech option and multi class option

[fringe quiver]

And i don't recall there being a dedicated mage armorset at that point

[fringe quiver]

I mean yeah but idk i don't like the idea every little tier needs its own armorset, like

spider armor can work perfectly fine post cryogen, it seems a bit odd

I feel like a mage set would make more sense, both thematically and also because mage dosen't have any dedicated sets around that point 'cept for frost

n yeah frost/forbidden are multiclass but they work well for individual builds too i think

[cinder hearth]

Cryonic is post 2 Mechs

[fringe quiver]

I'm p sure that's getting changed

Because unlocking cryonic from cryogen and not being able to mine it until you kill 2 mechs is kinda weird

[cinder hearth]

Isn't it

[kind tinsel]

a lot of the ores don't need to exist atp, im sure you lot've heard it enough

[cinder hearth]

Well, I'm not sure so

[stone fiber]

By the way, how will auric tesla armor recipe change with tarragon being nuked?

[kind tinsel]

it won't be a combination of sets if i recall correctly?

[fringe quiver]

Ngl i hope they get changed to either be literally just auric bars or otherwise just have a more interesting recipe thats just like. auric bars plus somethingt else

The Random Armor Combination + Auric is so Oldpilled and Fabsolcalamitymaxxed

[dusk bronze]

flying carpet 🥀

[stone fiber]

I see

[fringe quiver]

its the loincloth duhhh 🙄

[modern grove]

This shit it frying me

[stone fiber]

Wdym flying carpet is peak

[fringe quiver]

I wouldn't mind armorsets being used for crafting if they atleast made sense

But like

They don't at all

[dusk bronze]

it's just random bullshit go

[fringe quiver]

It's literally just. random strong armors fuse with auric to make the glupshittium ultimate armor

[cinder hearth]

Remember when frost barrier or frozen was in the chest piece recipe iirc

And what was in helmet I forgot

[stone fiber]

(For real though, I'm a big fan of flying carpet in pre hm)

[dusk bronze]

psychotic amulet 🥀 🥀 🥀

[fringe quiver]

Auric's current crafting recipe is a relic of the past

[proud plover]

fax

[azure oak]

I want to chew on an auric bar

[lapis oak]

Bro's gonna chew on it like caramel candy bar

[azure oak]

Still wish auric armor could get more of its own identity rather than looking like mini yharim armor

[hardy gulch]

so removing the "tesla" part of auric armor?

[azure oak]

Tesla can still be part of the name or smth i just think it'd be neat if it looked less like yharim's armor

[cinder hearth]

The only thing they share (with the new sprites) is the color scheme isn't it

[lapis oak]

Yharim doesn't have all that

[vivid hemlock]

you dont have anything

[lapis oak]

Ever think about when he's gonna be added the design will be more different than Lilac's concept?

😠

[vivid hemlock]

yes we know yharim's design is gonna look more like the old design

[lapis oak]

🥱

Remind me again after 10 Fargo years

[vivid hemlock]

youll die of old age

also you took that long to post an emoji?

[lapis oak]

Fuc u

I'm eepy

Wait

Is Auric Tesla still even high tech?

The new one

[stone fiber]

Yeah

[fringe quiver]

:maybe:

yharim's armor has exo upgrades, ours dosen't, so

i think it's just. armor

[lapis oak]

Tringle's ideas for new Auric sound like it's going for the regular magical armor route that's why I'm wondering

[slate folio]

I knew it was an ogscule

[rain arrow]

From what I’ve heard the boss progression is basically being completely redone.

[proud plover]

I think so too, especially confusing for new players

[fringe quiver]

Ehhh wouldn't say that

Some p major boss switches are (likely) happening though

such as Evil 2 <-> Dragonfolly swap, Slime God <-> Calclone swap, Astrum Deus moved to Post-ML and Signus moved to pre-DoG

So while a significant amount of changes are likely to happen, alot of the progression will still stay the same

Desert scourge as a EoC-tier boss, Crabulon after EoC, Cryogen as a mech-tier boss, etc, all of this stuff is staying

[thorny fjord]

signus is already pre-dog

[pseudo vector]

yeah but like
i guess they mean closer to dog

[fringe quiver]

Pre-DoG as in literally before DoG

Old duke tier

Right now he's like. post provi or smth with all the other sentinels

[wide nova]

old duke tier

[rain arrow]

Dragonfolly and Calclone being pre hardmode is gonna be weird.

[wide wadi]

No

[wide nova]

Yes

[thorny glacier]

Yes

[valid crypt]

Why not

[halcyon seal]

I think it goes sentinels > polter > duke > dog rn

[fringe quiver]

P sure yeh

Futurely sentinels will be split into diff tiers

weaver remains where it is, ceaseless becomes post-ml (as in, immediately post ml) and signus becomes pre-dog (as in old duke tier)

[thorny glacier]

Not really.
Dragonfolly’s retier is inevitable anyway and honestly im kinda glad it is
I do agree with Calclone retier being somewhat unusual(this has to do with her own theme [ts has no place in pre-hardmode]), lore wise it makes sense

[fringe quiver]

I mean i can see why people would find it to be weird, its def really different from what we've had in the past, but i also do think they're changes for the best

Like i like these changes by all means but i can see why people might be weirded out by them a lil at first

i'm #1 slime god > calclone swap truther

fixes the single biggest problem i have on a narrative that i otherwise greatly enjoy (calamity lore

aka Queen Slime 😭

[vivid hemlock]

why are you rotten romanesco broccoli

[thorny glacier]

truthsupernova
i wouldn’t mind if they kept slime god in prehard progression but since everything now has to be connected with vanilla there’s not much that can be done

[thorny glacier]

my adhd making me do weird things as always

[valid crypt]

Worst warthog when

[thorny glacier]

exactly when changelogs are

[tomorrow]

[twin bloom]

Wdym its today

[analog helm]

you foole

[twin bloom]

Boowomp

[dusty tinsel]

Changelogs yestermorrow

[brave star]

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[thorny glacier]

wait wtf true

[amber furnace]

ravager rework tomorrow

[frail owl]

[analog helm]

chnagkehge loggs tktmooewsss

[stiff light]

changelogs always

[sand dome]

Changelogs in #changelogs

[floral spoke]

change logs

[steep path]

I hope they change the logs

[hard hearth]

ninsussy

[solar hare]

changelogs never

calamity ceased development

[tropic jolt]

the sunken sea update is canceled

[sand dome]

🧯

[tropic jolt]

spooky scary

[molten grove]

changelog changelog: .

[obtuse hawk]

Sunken warprime

[boreal edge]

Changelog changelog: Added two massive lists

[tropic jolt]

the lists must be sunken sea part 1 part 1 and sunken sea part 1 part 2

[viral merlin]

Sunken

[stone fiber]

Wdym connected with vanilla

[lavish otter]

The void, for once, has ceased

[stone fiber]

The Ceasing Void

What "non-legendary" drops by the way?

[hushed hazel]

the 10% drops that aren't legendary

which ones are legendary? good question

[lusty stirrup]

ain’t yharim’s crystal one of them

the non-legendary

oh and that one guitar dropped by empress

[lyric trellis]

Non-legendary 10% drops: Arbalest, Hellborn, Volterion, Teardrop Cleaver, Regenerator, Swordsplosion, Crown Jewel, The Bee, Norfleet, Carnage

[lean relic]

The items which were legendary challenge drop defore

[lyric trellis]

(Non-legendary)

[pulsar cobalt]

we love using heavily outdated terms that most players wont know!!!!

[viral merlin]

call them mythical instead

[lean relic]

Sea's Searing is gone !!

[lyric trellis]

That’s a legendary

[lean relic]

I am confused now

[lapis oak]

that's a Legendary

[lean relic]

Kiri I'm killing you

[lapis oak]

wat u mean I'm just saying truth

it's literally part of the old Legendary table

old list with Burden Breaker and SHPC shot dead + the Old Reaper promotion and you have the new list

[brave star]

Too bad

Kiri must be killed with atoms as it’s part of the rules

Truth or not

[lapis oak]

😠

[stiff light]

arent all deaths from atoms

[unborn aspen]

Fun Calamity Fact! Since Heart Plus Up's recent car accident-induced hand injuries left her unable to draw in a shocking worldwide epidemic of recent road collisions, she has been forced to release the final sprite of the Devourer of Gods' second phase prior to the Sunken Sea Update's release where it will make its debut! Many changes have been made to the design after very constructive feedback from the whole Calamity community! How quaint!

[thorny glacier]

yes we do

[arctic cliff]

hand me this guy's pfp so i can stuff him within the amidas cocoon

[vivid hemlock]

god is dead

[modern grove]

very jawesome pil

this rules

[valid crypt]

👎

[unborn aspen]

well aha it wasnt me that made it you goof! it was the famous spriter heart plus up who works on the calamity mod

and is implementing it into the calamity mod

[modern grove]

well very jawesome repost you see!

[unborn aspen]

yes yes indeed!

[valid crypt]

I hope you stub all your toes

[thorny glacier]

blood eagles you with my changelogs

[hard hearth]

you are going to the 6th pit of hell

and i will send you there personally

[stiff light]

yea its heresy

[brave star]

Alright who’s ready to kill this beastly imposter

[stone fiber]

Huh?!

[pseudo vector]

oh that is horrifying

[brave star]

The most terrifying

Also hi CD

[arctic patrol]

that is sans

[brave star]

No that’s sans’ obscure relative

Who stole the inspiration for that glowing eye

[stiff light]

papyrrus font

[lean relic]

Oh dear

[polar tide]

:(

[arctic patrol]

that some naruto shit

[lavish otter]

Sorry Pil, it had to be done

[thorny glacier]

give this guy amidias treatment, people

[dull heart]

amidias is absorbing everything

i see some parallels to the cookie clicker granny apocalypse here

[pseudo vector]

found a bug (which has since been fixed) while messing with doze's deathhail staff (hyperdeath rift scepter) rework a couple days ago

[arctic cliff]

[rare tinsel]

good

un-fix it

[thorny glacier]

💔 cant find peace even as npc

[rare tinsel]

keep it that way

[lapis oak]

CDMusic the Deathhail Staff reworker

[dull heart]

wow looking back this looks so meh

[lapis oak]

is that still placeholder sprite for Starburst

[thorny glacier]

force field spawns a bit too fast

[pseudo vector]

for a sec i thought that emote was called salad lmao

[dull heart]

not sure

[lapis oak]

🤔 ?

[cobalt wharf]

me when i set canhitnpc to true instead of base

[arctic cliff]

@unborn aspen justic.

[thorny glacier]

maybe the force field spawn isnt the main concern

[thorny glacier]

something’s missing

[pseudo vector]

i found this by complete accident btw LMAO

[cinder hearth]

Leave it in, the NPC deleter 10000

[thorny glacier]

sentenced to imprisonment outside bedrock layer

[tropic jolt]

calamitas

[cinder hearth]

Angler in the wrong house? Begone

[pseudo vector]

i was showing tofu stuff on a dev build since he hadn't seen the stuff ingame yet and then boom
npc annihilator 3000 discovered

calamitas just happens to be the only npc who can actually handle the damage it deals

[hasty tangle]

i mean, it is called the deathhail staff

it aught to be able to cause death

even the new name references death

[cinder hearth]

No it's called the hyper death rift scepter

Damn

[pseudo vector]

the new dog weapon names are so perfect and i love them

i can't wait for you guys to see the ones we haven't revealed yet lmao

[polar tide]

they are genuinely incredible

[thorny glacier]

hopefully their quality justifies their names

[polar tide]

i havent touched the beta build in forever but i remember i thought the weapons were really fun

[supple olive]

can you guys add a 1 shot kill weapon called quality of life so i dont have to play the game

[hasty tangle]

its called cheat sheet butcher

[supple olive]

as a terraria fan my least favorite thing to do in terraria is play terraria

[dull heart]

i think the weapons turned out well

[hasty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-original-spongebob-squidward-quazzle-gif-20298555

[silk terrace]

absolutely. it'll start at 1 base damage and for every 1$ i get i'll increase the base damage by 1

[mystic eagle]

Kill the Goblin Tinkerer

[wooden blade]

Nah keep it

[hushed hazel]

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS EXACT IMAGE

[hard hearth]

thats not very goupert of you

[pearl sentinel]

well good news sso is definitely coming out before gta6

the game got delayed to november next year

[valid crypt]

Bruh

Reign of yharim demo before gta6

[pearl sentinel]

ong

[hard hearth]

the surprise reveal that sso is coming out december 2026

[tropic jolt]

its not ever coming out

yharim himself became real and is stopping calamity development so he can never be defeated

[mystic eagle]

Which day of november

[pearl sentinel]

19th

[mystic eagle]

ah

[lapis oak]

surely it's the final delay

[lyric trellis]

Happened again 😭

[dull heart]

This is a good image

[lyric trellis]

I fear this game doesn’t actually exist

[pearl sentinel]

the day it finally releases is the moment the rapture happens

nobody gets to play it

gg

[tropic jolt]

they actually just recorded miami for the trailer

the game isnt real

[native thistle]

Surely SSO will come before GTA6

[lyric trellis]

Playing gta6 with the antichrist

[cinder hearth]

I am not interested in rockstar or GTA games in general, even if I know how big they are

But if another delay can help them, so be it. Silksong got multiple delays too, and yet when we finally got it

[tropic jolt]

silksong didnt get a release date down to a single day before being delayed though

[modern grove]

November coming before sso

[pearl sentinel]

are you implying only those who dont get raptured get to play gta6 😭

Yeah silksong only got delayed from vague timeframes

they never gave a date

[tropic jolt]

the rapture already happened

[hushed hazel]

vague timeframes and xbox confirming things only for tc to go "no it isn't"

[tropic jolt]

it was like a month ago

[pearl sentinel]

random ass xbox social media intern deciding that silksong was going to release that year 🥀

[modern grove]

Silksong overhead September - November!

Overhaul

I hate everything

[tropic jolt]

calamity overhaul 2

[lapis oak]

overhead

[modern grove]

Fuck my chud life

[pearl sentinel]

hi throudon

[hasty tangle]

???

[thorny glacier]

at least people will give a shit when changelogs arrive tomorrow

[tropic jolt]

people really just say things

[halcyon seal]

yeah the sequel to the 2nd biggest game of all time will not be big

[hasty tangle]

soon may the changelogs come to bring us sugar and tea and rum

[tropic jolt]

there will be no changelogs

[hasty tangle]

yes???

this has gotta be bait

[halcyon seal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

[tropic jolt]

a bit

[misty wren]

yes gtav has sold the second most copies of any video game in existence only beaten out by fucking minecraft

[thorny glacier]

as popular as minecraft?

[tropic jolt]

😭

[thorny glacier]

everyone thought silksong would never arrive

now look where we are

[supple olive]

yeah true nobody will care about the most anticipated game release of the 2020s

[tropic jolt]

silksong isnt out though?

[supple olive]

gta 6 wont be that big guys nobody will buy it

[thorny glacier]

🤔 got me thinking there

[tropic jolt]

it was just a big troll!

its going to be an arcade game where you pay 25 cents after each death

calamity should add that!

[supple olive]

i personally wont be buying it unless i find the interest to

[tropic jolt]

I probably won't buy it since itll be a console exclusive for a long time

when I can mod it on pc though I will reconsider it

[thorny glacier]

gta 6 comes with a full screen warning to stop playing the game and go take a shower each time after playing for like 16 hours
(actually more multiplayer games should implement this feature)

[tropic jolt]

what if it was a foxy jumpscare instead

[thorny glacier]

🤔 hmmm

for every slur said in multiplayer mode, sure

actually no

[tropic jolt]

this conversation sure is spoilerous

[thorny glacier]

ran out of ideas

oh

2% chance to blast “changelogs tomorrow” on max volume

[hasty tangle]

neither have i but its one of the best selling games in history

as much as i like shitting on triple A games, gta's popularity is undeniable

[thorny glacier]

eh… sso tomorrow!

[tropic jolt]

sso never

its over

done

finished

[thorny glacier]

❌

sso tomorrow

that was my last verdict

[ripe bone]

p

[vestal osprey]

Changelogs tomorrow

[jade field]

schrodinger's tomorrow

we will know tomorrow whether the update is tomorrow

[stiff light]

50% chance of dropping tomorrow

[arctic cliff]

OKAY

MY AMIDIAS.EXE LOCATOR HAS LOCATED HIM

I AM RAPIDLY APPROACHING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM

IM SO EXCITED

WHAT MANNER OF ABOMINATION WILL HE BE LIKE?

[arctic cliff]

he's...

he's so beautiful...

[brave star]

Look how they massacred my boy

[arctic cliff]

nudge is truly the best photoshop tool

also heres a kiriscule transparent png for ya'll to use

enjoy

[brave star]

Kiriscule

[lean relic]

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-slugcat-rivulet-picmix-gif-7789179239336394061

[dense sundial]

Okay that’s the second time I’ve seen it

What’s with the genAI upscaling on this font specifically

[white aurora]

rivuloy

[strong isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853810333063446560/1410855916449824821/wall-glue.gif

[tropic jolt]

make it suffer

the wicked beast will pay for its crimes

[white aurora]

evil

[lusty stirrup]

[arctic cliff]

@azure oak btw new amidias

[lusty stirrup]

oh my fucking goodness

[stone fiber]

When is this getting fixed btw?

[cobalt wharf]

when do you think it is getting fixed

[lapis oak]

no spoils?

extreme drought of 2025

[vivid hemlock]

greed

[lapis oak]

😭

[tropic jolt]

to the spoils goes the victor

we will get nothing

[vestal osprey]

Spoiler: you will fight undyne in SSO

[pearl sentinel]

apparently rockstar is unionbusting and fired most of their senior developers 💀

[cinder hearth]

Ok I expressed hope that the delay may make it a better game yesterday

Now there is no hope whatsoever, if anything I hope they fail more

[tropic jolt]

spooky scary spoilers

[white aurora]

why would they do that

are they stupid

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[fathom girder]

So the game is gonna never come out

Good

[tropic jolt]

gta 6 is the worlds first game

[azure oak]

Changelogs not tomorrow

[thorny glacier]

❌

banned for not believing

[dusk bronze]

jesse why are you alive but gay

[thorny glacier]

another personality change and cole is my favorite ninja

[white aurora]

changelogs WILL be tomorrow mark my words...

[astral bison]

Source?

[stiff light]

thinking cap

[buoyant pulsar]

i think its honestly so cool that the community can just

help make assets for the mod

[white aurora]

[buoyant pulsar]

like i saw the effervescence vfx spoiler and i thought to myself, its super awesome but it could really use better sfx

and i just. made better sfx. and submitted them. and they got accepted

[valid crypt]

Oh peak

Good job

[buoyant pulsar]

here are the ones that i made

[dusk bronze]

based

[azure oak]

Cool!

[bright crane]

Is this nucleosynthesis aka. elemental ray, or it's flowers of mortality?

I mean, the pink-purple suggests it's a mage weapon but i need reassurance

[solar hare]

its flower of mortality (due for a rename)

[hard hearth]

flower of living

[bright crane]

Oh, i thought the color would be corresponding to the class fragment (ark of the elements orange-red, superradiant green), so itd by like blue or smth (stardust theme)

Or it's just not finished yet

[solar hare]

the color in the photo is a bit weird, it doesn't look like this in game

[bright crane]

Good to know

Only saw some blueish flower below but not sure for what it belongs to

[solar hare]

flower of blue

where are you getting these from

[bright crane]

Future content doc in pins of this channel

It's unofficial

[solar hare]

can you send like a bigger screenshot?

[bright crane]

Here you go (link to the pinned document)

[solar hare]

well the first is fom, the second is weird because the colors are funky on this

[dusk bronze]

the original source is a dia stream

[solar hare]

that makes sense

[modern grove]

Gamble my lifesavings

[summer shore]

It's so fucking beautiful omg

[solar hare]

the weapons are awesome

some still need some touch ups but its like one of the coolest summoner lines imo

[mystic eagle]

Yummy spritework

[fiery wadi]

are skyline wings getting fixed next update?

[desert garnet]

yes

[frail tapir]

that shit remind me of smth from honkai star rail

[fiery wadi]

oldest duke

[lean relic]

This sounds like cyrene
Or ruan mei's blossom

[high scaffold]

Are those spoilers?

In my calamity-spoiler-talk?

Impossible

[bright crane]

Idk but i have birthday today ✌️

[high scaffold]

Cool

Happy birtday

[fringe quiver]

I think you might be looking for #calamity-addon-talk

[high scaffold]

I have collected knowledge about every spoiler I could find

And reached inner peace

[vivid hemlock]

okay

[naive ice]

How

[thorny glacier]

share some of your wisdom big guy

sso tomorrow?

[naive ice]

My ass

[solar hare]

No.

[thorny glacier]

❌ wrong
sso is tomorrow!
you have to believe it

of course we won’t have it tomorrow when no one believes it

[fringe quiver]

septe

[thorny glacier]

octo

[summer shore]

nove

[naive ice]

Deca

[vivid hemlock]

sso in the year -MMCCDXIII

[fallen olive]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

i rlly need to finish up the last stuff for their reworks

[lapis oak]

E

[autumn compass]

Why is it -8 now

Where are your electrons going

[vivid hemlock]

not nearly enough

[boreal edge]

Can it be -80

[lapis oak]

😡

[high scaffold]

Reading

But since calamity fans cant read, the knowledge is unaccessible

[dull heart]

good thing I'm not a calamity fan

[strong isle]

Me turning from a Calamity fan to a Calamity air conditioner upon becoming a dev

https://tenor.com/view/smurf-criminal-gif-24371122

[left marlin]

😭

[brave star]

“I’m turning evil” ahh moment

[left marlin]

type shi

[naive ice]

How much

[fast vessel]

When changelogs?

[oak umbra]

when there is gonna be a new update?

[thorny glacier]

tomorrow

[thorny glacier]

today

[graceful ivy]

we dont know

probably december or sometime early next year

[cinder hearth]

We do not know for sure

Possibly end of 2025, most likely early 2026

[graceful ivy]

(hopefully)

[oak umbra]

i wish they expand more characters, lore along with boss fight

[cinder hearth]

Oh there's actually a lot of lore already

[oak umbra]

i like wrath of the gods as well 😭

[cinder hearth]

Come to #lore-discussion

[cinder hearth]

(that's not calamity lore just to be clear)

[dense sundial]

Yeah but not a single word of it is implemented in a diegetic way

[oak umbra]

well it still mention alot about soltan and other beings as well

so to be honest i wish to see more about other gods and mages

[dull heart]

I'd say the draedon stuff during the exo fight is diagetic

[oak umbra]

oh also about draedon too, i want to see more from him

[cinder hearth]

Who the fuck Is soltan

[dull heart]

Draedon already has so much stuff tbh

[dense sundial]

Exos is the last boss during which you want to divert your attention to the vanilla chat field

[soft sonnet]

draetalk is pretty good implementation i think, at most i think some of the text could b written more nicely

[dull heart]

draedon talks before they spawn and after they die

[rose laurel]

That doesn't really change the fact that it's diagetic

[dense sundial]

That part is alright, yeah

[oak umbra]

one of the accessories from summoner class, microchip something that transfer the summoning power to all sources to fight against Soltan, that's what it said from the accessories

[rose laurel]

And also that's more a problem with the fight than the dialogue

[soft sonnet]

Soltran?? 😭

[cinder hearth]

.....that is not calamity

[oak umbra]

oh?

[dense sundial]

I do think the dialogue could be packaged into a UI or something. The vanilla chat messages are small and go by pretty fast

[oak umbra]

i thought it is from calamity

thats weird

[cinder hearth]

No lmao

What is your modlist

[stiff light]

lungs harry

[soft sonnet]

Yeah vanilla chat dialogue isn't really that good but we've seen from other mods that it's very possible to do it in other ways

[oak umbra]

i have like this huge modpack im playing

[soft sonnet]

I wouldn't be surprised if calamity adopts that sort of thing

[graceful ivy]

hi taylor

[soft sonnet]

Specially given im p sure amidias dialogue/quests will have unique implementation to some extent

[oak umbra]

with the recent mod like infernal eclypse of ragnarok so i don't know

[cinder hearth]

Yeah not recommended

[graceful ivy]

Terraria modpacks

[cinder hearth]

Between conflicts, balance issues, etc

[rose laurel]

We absolutely want to move away from the Vanilla chat that thing sucks

[cinder hearth]

I'd suggest personally curating your modlist

Instead of using modpacks

[brave star]

The chat in vanilla terraria server?

[oak umbra]

i only start for like what. 16 days ago playing nonstop so i pretty sure i can't tell which is which and i just grinding day to night to day

[cinder hearth]

Anyways uh come to lore chat we have got a document that includes all in game sources of lore, and we know some other stuff from talking with the devs

[stiff light]

theres that one guy making that modpack

thats cool

[graceful ivy]

Bereft souls?

[stiff light]

probably

[rose laurel]

I'm mixed on the current implementation of Draetalk, but I don't think it's going to change radically

[oak umbra]

hm ok, but to be honest i still wish to see more expansion from those mods, like wrath of the gods, old gods as well

[soft sonnet]

those aren't official and WOTG is discontinued so

[dull heart]

Drae talk should open a visual novel minigame

[soft sonnet]

Not like you're gonna get much more out of that

[dense sundial]

Bereft Souls has cut its scope down to Cal + Souls + Secrets of the Shadows
…At that point just play DLC

[dense sundial]

What do you mean discontinued

[cinder hearth]

Wrath of the gods is shifting to become a standalone mod (and any addon obviously does NOT influence base cal lore, and as far as I know, none of them are based on calamity lore fully)

[dull heart]

WOTG isn't discontinued, it's being remade into a standalone yeah

[graceful ivy]

Isnt wotg getting more updates i thought it just wont be cal dependant anymore

[soft sonnet]

Current version of the mod is more or less gonna stop getting updates save for bug fixes and version parity iirc?

There'll be a new version of it made that'll be separate from cal

[brave star]

I wonder what that means to some parts of content like MARS

[rose laurel]

The only thing I would like to noticeably change would be to just break up the topics into smaller segments and have you unlock them as you talk more to Draedon to make it less overwhelming at a first glance

[dense sundial]

Correct

[soft sonnet]

It's discontinued in the same way spirit classic is

[oak umbra]

still i wish they expanding it more 😭

[valid crypt]

Oh right wotg2 is more known

[dense sundial]

Wrath of the Gods is getting a Wrath of the Gods 2

[soft sonnet]

That'd be a good change yeah

[oak umbra]

i interest in how they just add in god's lore into books and stuff and even cool fights as well

[brave star]

Wrath of the gods 2: The Wrath-ening

[dull heart]

if wrath of the gods 2 is so good why isn't there a wrath of the gods 2 2

[vivid hemlock]

i love seeing draedon's text messages

[valid crypt]

Wotg squared

[rose laurel]

And then possibly find a way of making Draedon less distant throughout the playthrough

Without having you directly meet him

[oak umbra]

till this day i still hate devour of gods on infernum, i can't stand against it behavior 🥀

[graceful ivy]

Dont play infernum dog then

[cinder hearth]

It's cool, the WOTG fights are absolutely cinematic

But they're not really like basecal lore envisions gods (and obviously avatar of emptiness and nameless deity are not canon to basecal)

[graceful ivy]

also #calamity-addon-talk

[soft sonnet]

Draedon spies on you with his nefarious draedrone

[oak umbra]

but it's more fun

[rose laurel]

I think the current only failing with Draedon in storytelling is that it doesn't feel like you're pursuing him or getting closer, you're always extremely distant and then immediately meet the guy

[soft sonnet]

Draedon simultanenously has alot of presence and very little presence since most of the info you get on him is very indirect

[rose laurel]

Yeah

I had this idea that throughout the playthrough you could like, intercept some messages he's sending to people and whatnot

[graceful ivy]

That should be a thing

[tropic jolt]

clearly we need more bestiary entries

[graceful ivy]

i loved the infernum cutscene after u beat mech bosses and it zooms out to draedon monitoring you

[cinder hearth]

Oooh that'd be cool

Or maybe do like the Undertale flowey route where sometimes you'll see a recon body spying on you before fucking off

[soft sonnet]

For as much as i think the way inf does some thins in regard to narrative oddly, i think he cutscene with him observing you is a interesting idea
I wouldn't do hat exact implementation but generally the idea of showing to the player that he's observing you in some way would be interesting

[tropic jolt]

🪦

[rose laurel]

And I also think we'd benefit from having some sort of drone that you can see spying on you

[cinder hearth]

Same

[oak umbra]

i see, but is there more things about like character we haven't get to see in calamity lore? i wonder how strong they would be if we fight them

[soft sonnet]

draedrone is real.

roy refere

[oak umbra]

calamitas is part of base calamity right?

[rose laurel]

But also I'd like to follow on

[cinder hearth]

Yes

[soft sonnet]

i. i wonder

[graceful ivy]

Calamity power scaling 💔

[soft sonnet]

if. if Calamitas is part of Calamity.

😭

[tropic jolt]

definitely not

[rose laurel]

"Ambient lighting, total surveillance, instantaneous repair… With enough of these tiny machines working in unison, any problem is solvable."

Nanodroids entry

[cinder hearth]

Tbf they thought a random guy named Soltan was part of basecal I don't blame them for being confused

[valid crypt]

😭

[cinder hearth]

But yes

[rose laurel]

I think if Draedon ever spied on the Terrarian it would be with nanodroids

And I also think it'd be ideal to make them very hard to notice

[valid crypt]

Why use big robot when little robot work

[brave star]

Could they hide in trees?

[rose laurel]

Not only because that's just what Draedon would do

[oak umbra]

i think because i play with overhaul or idk, feels like the quest between the fish researcher from halibut cannon and the supreme witch calamitas is really interesting

[brave star]

Maybe in ambient tiles

[cinder hearth]

KILL CALAMITY OVERHAUL

[dense sundial]

Infernum isn’t the best at “narrative” because it Just Does Not Care about lore

[graceful ivy]

Bro do not play with calamity overhaul

[rose laurel]

But also it'd be cool for people to catch them and go "ooooh fuck"

[valid crypt]

Ew calamity overhaul

[brave star]

Yea! Kill cal overhaul

[rose laurel]

Sometimes things being hard to notice is better

[oak umbra]

the only thing i don't want to experience again is fighting devour of gods with ritual knife that given by calamitas

it really suck my soul out everytime i have to fight devour of gods

[graceful ivy]

What kind of a wack ass modpack is this fella playing

[valid crypt]

Why are you using a scal weapon on dog

What

She is tied for the final boss

[rose laurel]

So yeah if we make a Draedon spying robot, I'd like it to be some sort of Nanodroid and be very difficult to spot

[oak umbra]

but still i got the oni blade at the end

[graceful ivy]

You could also maybe do like some kind of critter that infiltrates your town where ur npcs are

[cinder hearth]

Ok harry

I heavily, HEAVILY, HEAVILY recommend you play calamity with just calamity music, vanilla calamity music and maybe some QOL mods because this is not normal

Experience the mod without random ass shit

[graceful ivy]

thatd be cool

[raw falcon]

Maybe you could find computers or something in his labs that hold additional infos about him, seperate from the logs. Like, maybe messages or general info or sum

[rose laurel]

We don't need three sources of Draedon lore

😭

[oak umbra]

oh yea i do only listen to calamity music, to be honest i might not withstand the normal vanilla music

[rose laurel]

Logs and interceptable messages would be more than enough

[raw falcon]

true

[valid crypt]

Good thing vcmm exists to replace vanilla music

[valid crypt]

True

Boss lore items as well

Kinda

[oak umbra]

playing 5 days straight in vanilla with their music really bugging me off

[valid crypt]

Also this aint addon chat why this convo here

[oak umbra]

but playing 16 days straight in calamity with calamity music is really chill

[cinder hearth]

Use vanilla calamity mod music
Replaces nearly all vanilla music with other music

[valid crypt]

Didnt it have a big update recently

[oak umbra]

hm i think i have that in the modpack i got from youtube

i might check later

[valid crypt]

😭 not the yt modpacks

[tropic jolt]

duke fishron theme

[oak umbra]

after all im still very new to terraria

[tropic jolt]

and aether theme as well

[graceful ivy]

Disable calamity overhaul when you can

❤️

[earnest jewel]

You have played vanilla Terraria, right?

[oak umbra]

like i only play for 21 days and i can already see how many mods look very cool and stuff

yea i just play that like 16 days ago

[brave star]

Disable the devs that make cal overhaul

[oak umbra]

i play 5 days straight to complete the whole thing

[rose laurel]

Anyways yeah Draedon honestly needs very little for me to consider him just

[oak umbra]

got some friends to help me out

[rose laurel]

A fully 100% done character

[earnest jewel]

Give Draedon a Draedonmobile.

[polar tide]

counterpoint i like him

[valid crypt]

Unless it has changed
Calamity overhaul has stolen stuff and is so buggy it can break your world or chatacter randomly for no reason
Also unbalanced af

[brave star]

What about Cal spying on us

[oak umbra]

then 16 days straight to complete calamity and wrath of the gods and old gods

[rose laurel]

I don't think that should be done like

At all

😭

[earnest jewel]

I believe she's busy.

[valid crypt]

She wouldnt spy on you she would fucking kill you

[rose laurel]

Draedon should feel like you're always getting closer to him

Calamitas should feel like she is getting closer to you

[tropic jolt]

let them starve raghhh

[oak umbra]

was really nice experiences and when i hear my friends talk about the infernal eclypse of ragnarok that add thorium and secret of the shadow, i start to play it again

[tropic jolt]

starving musicians make better music

[graceful ivy]

Do not play modpacks on your first modded playthrough man

[valid crypt]

^

[oak umbra]

im still nowhere to be finish the prehardmode because of this boss called putrid pink

[pulsar cobalt]

gif of character coming close to your location

[valid crypt]

#calamity-addon-talk link to addon

[oak umbra]

too op moves, it's like playing touhou.

[valid crypt]

Did not consider this
I fuck with it

[earnest jewel]

At that point ask about it in other mod talk.

[brave star]

I like that parallel

[tropic jolt]

I am above Calamitas from the very beginning because I am not homeless

[brave star]

Considering their main fights are around the same tier

[tropic jolt]

wooden boxes for the win

[oak umbra]

i mean i really have no question about like how to dodge it, i think i will figure it out during my grinding with the modpack i got and infernum

[valid crypt]

Literally same tier they share progression spot

[brave star]

Exactly

[valid crypt]

#calamity-addon-talk

[soft sonnet]

I am well aware

But in this context i am using it to reference something it does that i think could actually be neat in basecal

[earnest jewel]

Draedon cutscene was cool though.

[rose laurel]

I think Infernum cutscenes are too on the nose and thus I am not fond of them

[graceful ivy]

Imo still better than a bunch of logs ppl wont read and vanilla chat box dialogue

[brave star]

I remember you told us how you dislike how the cutscenes don’t focus on the player

[valid crypt]

If people are interested in the lore they will read the logs

And if someone isnt interested

They wont care no matter what you do

[soft sonnet]

Lore ideally shouldn't be forced on the player's face but should be presented in a interesting enough way that it catches their attention

If someone dosen't want to engage with the lore that's fine and it will happen inevitably, but it should be done in a way that players will notice it and get curious, incentivizing them to do so

look at how hollow knight does things

Obviously it's not the best comparison as calamity is a Mod for a Sandbox Game WIth Basically No Story and Hollow Knight is a whole game designed with a story in mind

But point is, Hollow Knight can be played in its entirety with the player having no clue wtf is going on

[pearl sentinel]

I am not particularly fond of the providence dog cutscene but idk what other infernum cutscenes there are

[soft sonnet]

But things are still interesting enough that they enrapture the player on em and make them want to learn more

[pearl sentinel]

hi thats me i didnt play it in entirety but i had no clue wtf was going on 😭 that was just because im stupid i think though

[valid crypt]

RoY dev found using hk as reference
Fork found in kitchen and grass is green

[soft sonnet]

ALLEGATIOSN.

CANT FUCKING BEAT THEM.

[pearl sentinel]

RoY is the next silksong confirmed

[soft sonnet]

i will be on mydeath bed. and then John Yharim will show up. you're on your deathbed? wow. just like the dreamers.

[pulsar cobalt]

theres calamitas placing a flower in the crags post brimmy and camera zooming out to reveal draedon watching u through a screen post mechs

[valid crypt]

Theres the signus floats by one
Storm weaver eats birds
Draedon watches you after killing mechs
Scal placing flower down in crags

[pearl sentinel]

Yharim is like your personal like

angry spirits from fnaf

they wont let u die

[soft sonnet]

yep

[rose laurel]

Just because I said I don't like how Infernum does it doesn't mean I like how we do it

[pearl sentinel]

"storm weaver eats birds " huh

[valid crypt]

Storm weaver has a chance to appear and oneshot all harpies on screen before leaving

[pearl sentinel]

subtle foreshadowing

[hushed hazel]

harpies and wyverns

[valid crypt]

Still birds

[hushed hazel]

every now and then i see someone in cmt go "why the fuck did sw just appear and immediately despawn i haven't even beaten skeletron yet"

[lapis oak]

amogus

[rose laurel]

My problem with the Infernum cutscenes is that they focus entirely on cool factor and not on the nuances of storytelling that makes things work

[upper plover]

So, aura farming cutscenes essentially?

[rose laurel]

Like, I don't like the Draedon cutscene because it's just confusing to anyone not familiar with the story. Who's that guy? Why did he show up all of a sudden?

It only makes sense when you summon him, but there's also no proper buildup to that moment. You'll summon Draedon and go "oh it's the guy from that cutscene" instead of understanding who Draedon is and what you're getting yourself into.

I dislike the DoG one for other reasons

[valid crypt]

Diminishes the plays achievement over provi?

[rose laurel]

That and I also think it's a bad introduction to DoG

[arctic cliff]

are we gonna have this argument again

[valid crypt]

DoG should killsteal every boss from moonlord and onwards

Including DoG

And yharon

[rose laurel]

No I'm just explaining why I don't like Infernum cutscenes

[valid crypt]

And scal and exos

And jared

[soft sonnet]

nobody's arguing 😭

[rose laurel]

I think the Weaver one is the best and something I'd honestly like to have in base Cal

[soft sonnet]

i love eating birds

[rose laurel]

My only problem with it is that it just doesn't work in isolation

[soft sonnet]

im so full of birds and wyverns yum

[pearl sentinel]

i love rapturing groups of birds

[arctic cliff]

okay after those arguments
i've realized clearly whatever reb wants dog to be is... very different from what i want dog to be

[rose laurel]

But that's not Infernum's fault

There's Signus' which I also think works but isn't what Signus is nowadays

Void is kinda just

Yeah that should be in Cal

No questions asked

And I think I actually dislike Calamitas' rose more than DoG eating Providence

The fact that Calamitas literally just spawns in, drops a flower and fucks off without ever acknowledging the player just really irks me

Which, of course yeah blah blah limitations but

It treats Calamitas as a set piece rather than a character, a moment that exists in isolation to everything

And I just really really do not like that

[valid crypt]

That wont happen and you know it

[lean relic]

I guess because infernum will be outdated once 1.4.5 released

[valid crypt]

Then just let people continue talking

[rose laurel]

People be like "we should stop talking about this" when we're having a completely normal conversation about something

Like bro shut up I want to talk about why I dislike Infernum's cutscenes

I'm not insulting anyone here

[pseudo vector]

💀

[lean relic]

dang it bro

[rose laurel]

Huh?

😭

[hushed hazel]

[arctic cliff]

infernum cutscenes also need to be judged by the fact that they're referencing old lore, not new lore

[hushed hazel]

what did the user mean by this

[valid crypt]

Its never going to fully die cause guess what
People will be able yo go back to 1.4.4 and play it

[hushed hazel]

why

[rose laurel]

I know, it's why I think Signus' is probably the best

[valid crypt]

Its a single player difficulty so honestly just like
Why

[valid crypt]

Fair

[graceful ivy]

Nah its fun

It gave me alot of replayability and is the sole reason addon talks gets used

[valid crypt]

Fargos souls prob increasing

[graceful ivy]

I would have most likely stopped playing cal in general without it 💔

[pseudo vector]

as fargos gets its updates and base cal updates and improves its bosses i imagine the lustre and appeal of infernum will definitely fade away

[rose laurel]

Thing is controversial, therefore we should stop talking about it

[valid crypt]

Ig just leave the conversation if you dont like it

[hushed hazel]

you know what else is polarizing? calamity mod for terraria

[arctic cliff]

Umbara, some things are never going to die

[pseudo vector]

infernum's bosses are admittedly an improvement on base calamity as things stand currently, but i think that's gonna change as we move forward

[arctic cliff]

even if said thing is literally DONE.

[valid crypt]

Yknow whats polarising? Terraria mods

[pearl sentinel]

theres just no way

[pseudo vector]

we're in a position now where we can actually do what people are using addons to do
improve the bosses lmao

[rose laurel]

And we've reached "TMod community bad" territory again

Great job folks

[valid crypt]

If you dont like the conversation then just leave it

[arctic cliff]

I know for a fact that some guy in post-DoG rework is gonna say that infernum dog was better

[pearl sentinel]

me when people are having a civilized conversation (this is unacceptable)

[lean relic]

Yknow what, lets just watch one of the WotM cut content

[pseudo vector]

SSO DoG is considerably more fair than Infernum DoG lol

[rose laurel]

This shit is just grating to me, refer to what Hobbit said

[pseudo vector]

i find it a lot more enjoyable

[rose laurel]

I'm not even doing that

😭

[arctic cliff]

(I’m actually thinking of big dog rework)

[valid crypt]

Why are you here in this convo it does not seem like you enjoying it

[arctic cliff]

Byeah anyways

[graceful ivy]

Not really a high bar anyways

[valid crypt]

Can we go on a good topic now

[graceful ivy]

Inf dog is glazed but imo its pretty ass

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah also why insert yourself into a conversation if you dont care or dont like it

There's just no winning for anyone if you do that

[rose laurel]

Bro just chill out, you don't need to be raising awareness over every problem in the TMod community when basically everyone is painfully aware of them

[lean relic]

Eh sure
Should I forward yharon resprite lore

[pearl sentinel]

spread the divine swine gospel

[polar tide]

i think its pretty interesting to hear thoughts from an actual cal writer on infernum's cutscenes i was enjoying that

[rose laurel]

Someone brought up Infernum cutscenes
I mentioned I don't like them
I explained why I don't like them

Boom

[pearl sentinel]

You were being too civilized

[rose laurel]

Jeez, man

[valid crypt]

Start shouting

[brave star]

This is how Yharon grows up

[rose laurel]

I'm going to shout while being extremely positive

HEY GUYS I REALLY FUCKING LIKE HOW WOTG HANDLES ITS STORYTELLING

[brave star]

Ok

[valid crypt]

Lol

[rose laurel]

I'm being genuine mind you

[valid crypt]

I KNOW

[lean relic]

absolute cinema

[hard copper]

yo rain world yharon in the abyss

[upbeat arch]

Do you want a joke

[valid crypt]

No

[brave star]

Slug Yhon would be cinema

[upbeat arch]

why(

[rose laurel]

WotG is pretty much how I want Calamity to eventually be storytelling-wise, though I do think that's a bit difficult due to the lack of a Solyn

[valid crypt]

Ok actual wotg topic so bye

[pearl sentinel]

just introduce uh that one squid

[arctic cliff]

No.

[pearl sentinel]

gg

[rose laurel]

Calamari in Calamity

Tomorrow

[pearl sentinel]

true!

[graceful ivy]

Fables also has pretty good writing

[arctic cliff]

You will stay here and listen to Reb’s insane rambling

[lean relic]

Get over here melon gun

[graceful ivy]

I like the dialogue of sir nautilus

[valid crypt]

Cant believe they adding the mahoraga squid

[pearl sentinel]

thisi s completely sane rambling 😭

[rose laurel]

However I also think it's not difficult to have supporting characters to ground the player more

I think the one thing Calamity does very poorly currently is that it fears giving the player options due to how open the character can be

[pearl sentinel]

the you is you

you strong

aquatic (demon)

[lavish otter]

I might be misremembering them a bit, but this is part of why I like the ideas...I think Triangle(?) brought up for what could be done with CalClone

[pearl sentinel]

drunk

[lean relic]

The yet another
Terrarian is you moment

[valid crypt]

The more choices there are the more your freedom matters

[earnest jewel]

The issue I have with WotG's writing is that every plot point for lack of a better term are very spread out, and there's not all that much between them.

[rose laurel]

I don't think it's even that hard to give the player choices like

[graceful ivy]

Maybe that will get improved overtime if they keep working on it

[rose laurel]

Really all you need is the standard good, bad and neutral options

[valid crypt]

Rebecca do agree the terrarian is up to you ?

[graceful ivy]

I wonder how they will do permafrost if it wont be depedent on cal

[earnest jewel]

Chill Dude's House.

[fallen olive]

🙏

[dull heart]

hi

[dull heart]

i just learned they announced the date for oshi no ko s3

[shell sapphire]

[lean relic]

Yeah

Oh my god the gif i just posted is lagging my discord app

[dull heart]

peak

[lavish otter]

Damn, I don't have the wirethers anymore because I switched laptops

Curses

[shell sapphire]

Aww damn

[lean relic]

I did think the same thing, but in reverse
Frame did not lowered at all for me

[pearl sentinel]

Friendly
Rude
Sarcastic
...

those are the options

[earnest jewel]

'Sorry for trying to burn your face off, I know it was uncalled for.'
'One of your attacks hit an orphanage. They're all dead.'
'W-what?'
'All your fault.'

[halcyon seal]

This, before I started giving a shit about the lore literally all I knew was whatever Draedon and SCal said in their fights

[teal iron]

Man, I love WotG. I hope the lore changes for WotG2 aren't so drastic that I can't headcanon away lore problems with Calamity

[pseudo vector]

its definitely intending to be its own self contained story

[soft sonnet]

WotG lore has already been its own thing as is

The connection with calamity was minimal and easily able to be replaced

[pseudo vector]

there's not much work to do as a result since a lot of the content already in WotG is already original, its only Calamity associated from a gameplay side