calamity-update-talk

[inner timber]

so there's base mana flower, then cloak, arcane, uhh some other shit those are the only two improtant ones

[rich ginkgo]

biggest accessory bloat oat???

[misty wren]

i consider it one line because even though there are 5 mana flowers none of them do anything particularly unique and all are interchangeable within recipes

[inner timber]

ok flower isnt real

magnet flower i mean

[rare tinsel]

mana flower
arcane flower
magnet flower
mana clook

[lapis oak]

mana clook

[rare tinsel]

and also i guess etherial talisman

[inner timber]

why use magnet flower when you can just celes cuffs

[rare tinsel]

real

[rich ginkgo]

arcane flower does not need to exist lol

such a filler accessory

putrid scent is a joke

[rare tinsel]

why's that

[inner timber]

id rather kill magnet than arcane if im honest

[misty wren]

none of them need to exist but they still do

[rare tinsel]

kill the fucking mana flower line, please

[inner timber]

considering in vanilla mage is fucking squishy as shit, arcane flower is nice in mp

[rare tinsel]

"yes waiter? waiter please give me the accessory that eliminates the need for me to engage with the class gimmick please?"

[rich ginkgo]

the enemy aggro being reduced has like, not once been useful to me ever

[hard copper]

All of it, mana potions too

[inner timber]

maybe they should make the class gimmick better

[rich ginkgo]

there's no way im the only person who just.. doesnt find it useful?

[inner timber]

its good in multiplayer

thas about it

[rare tinsel]

arcane flower is buffed in calamity and is the best all-around upgrade to the mana flower

[misty wren]

it also has a damage boost doesnt it

[hard copper]

5% iirc

[rich ginkgo]

yeah that's all id find it useful for but that's just punishing ur teammate is it not lmao

[misty wren]

no

that

really isnt

[rare tinsel]

it has some minor numerical improvements that'll contribute more than mana clook or magnet flower in most circumstances

[rich ginkgo]

if they're playing a tankier class like melee it isnt

[misty wren]

i play multiplayer a lot

[inner timber]

how is it punishing the teammate

if anything i would fucking love for the boss to be more consistently on me

[misty wren]

it is not as punishing as you would think, if anything its more punishing to you a lot of times because of stray projectiles

[inner timber]

do you know how dogshit it is dodging a boss that ISNT locked onto you

[hard copper]

I actually prefer having aggro on me in multiplayer, you get a better idea of whats happening, so you get hit less

[rare tinsel]

if the person who's being aggro'd knows what they're doing then they can improve the damage and survivability of the entire team

[inner timber]

and this is never true

[rare tinsel]

real 😔

[rich ginkgo]

so it's still more of a multiplayer exclusive accessory then

[inner timber]

its also nice for vanity

i will keep it for that alone

[misty wren]

no it has a direct damage boost

[inner timber]

magnet flower has no visual

[inner timber]

not in vanilla

in vanilla it is literally just mana flower with less likely targetting

[inner timber]

terraria needs more vanity

[rich ginkgo]

do the other flowers have that in cal

[inner timber]

no

[misty wren]

nope

[rich ginkgo]

i see

[rich ginkgo]

i think i only ever use the magnet flower

[inner timber]

arcane flower gives damage, cloak gives better mana uptime if you're hit (since the fallen stars give mana), magnet flower,,,, would reasonably only be good if fighting something with spawns or smth so you have access to mana stars

[misty wren]

or star statues

[inner timber]

yeah but thats BORING

also be real why would you use mana flower and star statue

[misty wren]

which are some of the funniest things ever i love them

[rich ginkgo]

are all those different options reallyyyyy needed though

[inner timber]

no

[rich ginkgo]

😪

[inner timber]

im just saying how they're different in cal

[rich ginkgo]

yeah i know lol

[misty wren]

silly :3

[rich ginkgo]

what would replace them though
would it be like one is kept and the other 2 die or they ALL die or they ALL die but a replacement is added

i cant tell what would be better

[misty wren]

no but they might as well be interesting or at least have something different from the others because they're there in vanilla so we're stuck with them in cal

[rich ginkgo]

oh yeah

they can only be reworked right

[misty wren]

yes

[rich ginkgo]

preferably just make each one standout from the others then i guess

[molten grove]

🙋

I didn't know how data saving worked, so I accidentally made the sulphur sea side save incorrectly
Then people kept blaming boss checklist because that was a common factor in the bug reports
equivalent of blaming Breathing Air for dolphin attacks (everyone attacked by a dolphin breathes air)

fabsol fixed it some time around harvest

[inner timber]

just change them to be unobtainable

[stone fiber]

Embed fail, laugh at this user

Yeah, just like Chief Logan did

[viral merlin]

Look at mage
Ranged with 3 accessories inside

[torn cairn]

Guys how do working on updates work here ?
Do you guys just fix or change as many things as possible until the only things left to change are too much work to be worked on all in one update?

[stark pond]

they usually have something planned out, like the general theme, what to add, what to rework and stuff

SSO is mainly SSO, but there are many reworks approved and stuff like patreon weapons and rebalance between everything

[quaint kite]

I'm wishing for mage rework

[torn cairn]

I see

[stark pond]

i think mage will get a huge eating next

[quaint kite]

Hopefully

it really needs to eat something

[stark pond]

chaos stone user be eating good

[torn cairn]

So i suppose the reason updates in calamity have no date is just because of the devs working on whatever they want whenevr they want

[stark pond]

that is a reason, too, they have their lives outside of calamity

[torn cairn]

Yeah

[stark pond]

aint no terraria mod can feed your team

[valid crypt]

Also that they dont want the stress and dissapointment of them

[torn cairn]

Of course

[stark pond]

deadline is the enemy of every good project so just give them time

[torn cairn]

Fax

[stark pond]

so far this is the biggest update ever so that won't be disappointing and they promised there won't be no update of the same scale as this one

[torn cairn]

Damn

No update of the same scale as this one is actually better because me sad when no new calamity content

[hard pebble]

Guys what does SSO stand for, i believe it's sunken sea but no idea what the O mean

[cinder hearth]

Overhaul

[torn cairn]

Overhaul

[hard pebble]

Ok ty

[valid crypt]

Overpowered

[lapis oak]

🗣️ 🫧 🐟

[hard copper]

🔥

[cinder hearth]

Wait they're reworking galaxy smasher?

[lapis oak]

no they're making it fresh

improvements and visual upgrades

the chart is about stuff that get big enough changes to make them feel fresh

FUCK I forgot The Oracle

[buoyant pulsar]

im so with you and god i hope so

i used to love mage sm and then i realized it was just. what if we took ranger and made it so you had to stop attacking every 5 seconds for no reason

shoutout to current death valley duster

is this the entire reason the disgusting meat was added /j

[rich ginkgo]

yeah there really is like 0 difference between mage and ranger
they both prioritize projectiles and, well, range
mana is just ammunition but you passively regenerate it instead of crafting more to fuel your weaponry
both also coincidentally lack accessories lmao (not that it means anything i just find it funny)

[desert garnet]

mage have mana

ranger have ammo

[rich ginkgo]

mages are cool and all but seriously wtf is this execution

[desert garnet]

its just that simple

it supposed to be that simple

[viral merlin]

Suspicious Swine Overthrow

[desert garnet]

just different weapons

and style of them

[rich ginkgo]

i feel like mage could have been made more complex, with a 2nd mechanic or something
ranger 100% works as is, in some cases simplicity is best

[buoyant pulsar]

what if we took the most fun catch of ranger where you have limited ammo but can use cool different ammo types to modify your weapons in cool ways, and instead replaced it by completely removing all engagement and variation with the catch by making it completely automatic

[desert garnet]

more complexity to classes works only as a mod

[rich ginkgo]

that would help differentiate the classes and like, last time i checked sorcery isnt exactly something simple

good thing this is the calamity mod discord server, where calamity actually has the power to do that

[buoyant pulsar]

i think thats like

lame as hell

like usestyle1 lame as hell

[desert garnet]

different style of weapons makes up for it

[rich ginkgo]

are they REALLY that different though

[desert garnet]

i want to use other classes weapons without being punished for not sticking with only one class

[buoyant pulsar]

why would i limit myself to making mage a boring ranger clone instead of being cool and unique just because it was originally designed that way

[rich ginkgo]

the only difference is like, ranger prioritizes shitting out projectiles as fast as possible while mage prioritizes shitting out as many projectiles as possible

[desert garnet]

ranger have a guns and bows and rockets

[cinder hearth]

Yes, unless you try and define them as the most basic "I click it shoots projectiles" then yes, the weapons ARE noticeably different

[desert garnet]

you can make them cool and fun to use by making them different than others

the spoilers really shows it

[cinder hearth]

(with some exceptions of course, with weapons that could easily go into one or the other)

[buoyant pulsar]

i know thats why u edited it

[cinder hearth]

Tell me what ranged weapon works like the hadopelagic echo

Sorry I meant

Eidolic wail

The hadopelagic echo was an old removed upgrade to it

[desert garnet]

terraria shouldnt have complex mechanics from the start cuz it kind of punishes in most cases using other class weapons

[rich ginkgo]

how else would you define them? like im sure there's a couple cool mage weapons out there i havent played mage in a while but from what i remember majority of mage weapons just shit random projectiles everywhere as in just balls flying around (this trend especially with spellbooks?)

[buoyant pulsar]

tell me what mage weapon works like the megalodon. oh wait fucking all of them /lh

[rich ginkgo]

they could be SO much cooler

[desert garnet]

mods made only for that are very good for those type of stuff

[icy sphinx]

im still mad there isnt much in the game

[buoyant pulsar]

launchers explode and like almost all of them home, guess what other class has a shitload of explosions and homing

[icy sphinx]

ranger sticks to like 1 or 2 weapons each fight

meanwhile fucking melee and mage have a ton

[desert garnet]

the spellbooks will gets reworked cuz of that

its better to make the weapons more interesting than changing the mechanics of a class

a lot of weapons are getting a rework

[rich ginkgo]

i believe that in this case, mage needs both

[cinder hearth]

That's the subsuming vortex line for the most part , which yes, shoots many homing, piercing projectiles which tend to "stick" to enemies. They can be boring but they still have their own flavor

But you also have (like them or not) the various tentacle spell tomes, or wrath of the ancients, or primordial earth, which work entirely differently

[rich ginkgo]

like i said before mana is ammunition without the special little gimmicks (different ammo types), with the tradeoff being it passively regenerates
how.. interesting and unique? i think?

and majority of the weapons also happen to be lame, so

[cinder hearth]

Disagree on this account too

[icy sphinx]

summoners ass in terms of choosing what u wan

[buoyant pulsar]

this is simultaneously not an argument since its completely up to you to use however many weapons you feel like using (and most people are gonna use one or two weapons in a fight regardless of the class), and also just another reason to say that ranger sucks for lack of varied weapon usecases. at least melee has weapons that deal damage inversely proportional to range so you have to balance risk for damage and trade offense and defense

[rich ginkgo]

this isnt even a bold statement unless you havent seen a single piece of media that features any sort of mage or wizard or whatever

[icy sphinx]

i meant as in good.

[rich ginkgo]

dr. strange makes like 7 unique weapons alone lmao

look at the shit that guy is doing

that's a real wizard

[desert garnet]

?????

do you even play the game?

[rich ginkgo]

yes i play the game lmao

[icy sphinx]

half the ranger weapons arent great to be used and offer less damage than others.

[buoyant pulsar]

lowkey summoner gameplay in terms of choosing your summon is 'what makes the dps number on the side of my screen go the highest while i put my mouse cursor on the boss and hold m1'

[desert garnet]

or are you darksouls player?

[icy sphinx]

whips barely useful ngl unless the boss is a worm or gets hit twice atleast

or u aim it onto an enemy

[rich ginkgo]

id say that's a decent amount enough to judge on mage weapons

[cinder hearth]

I assure you, I have seen a lot of media with mages and wizards, and I still find many mage weapons to be really cool

Of course they can't influence the area like say, Doctor strange's dimensions, because that'd be hell to code and it wouldn't work in a game like terraria . But you still have plenty of options

Its like saying "rogue is like ranger but instead of ammo you sometimes wait a bit"

[buoyant pulsar]

exactly

[cinder hearth]

Extremely wrong

The tag damage from them is insane

[buoyant pulsar]

brotha

[cinder hearth]

And this isn't an opinion

[desert garnet]

by agreeing to this, your opinions dont matter from this convo

like

bro

[buoyant pulsar]

vomits dust at you

like wh

[desert garnet]

whips boosts summons

and saying they are shit

is literally ?????????????

[buoyant pulsar]

im not saying whips are shit

[icy sphinx]

i mean it is kinda true

[desert garnet]

"barely usefull"

[icy sphinx]

once u reach certian point after ML its useless

like yharon

[desert garnet]

when they do alot

[icy sphinx]

exo mechs

calamitas

their useless

[cinder hearth]

You are verifiably wrong

[buoyant pulsar]

i was saying exactly to emphasize that currently summoner feels brainless to play

[icy sphinx]

im not i even tried without summons it did poopy damage

[rich ginkgo]

i mean, is that last statement even wrong
the classes are kind of weird as in there's a clear difference between some of them while others can be insanely similar
like the difference between melee and ranger is huge, those are two completely different styles of combat
while other classes have the simple difference of "well one you passively regen ammo and the other you craft the ammo, yeah that's about it"

[cinder hearth]

Kaleidoscope and Morningstar can get you 1.48x multiplicative damage

[desert garnet]

bruh

[buoyant pulsar]

not agreeing word for word with what they said

shouldn't have said exactly lol

thats my bad

[icy sphinx]

id rather focus on dodging than focus on landing my whip

[cinder hearth]

That's not true , any non true melee , by your definition, could be the same as a mage or rogue weapon

[cinder hearth]

That's on you

[desert garnet]

if you dont like how every class isnt 10 layer complicated mechanics

dont play it

[plush carbon]

this is the argument of all time

[valid crypt]

Ok but its not useless thats your preference

[cinder hearth]

But saying they're useless is flat out wrong

[icy sphinx]

itd be great if they could release mini updates atleast.

[desert garnet]

every class is "braindead" cuz you hold the button

or do nothing

[rich ginkgo]

they did give us a mini update

[desert garnet]

what else did you expect

[icy sphinx]

what was it

[rich ginkgo]

what a calamity

[icy sphinx]

because i need a summoner mini upd for whips

[rich ginkgo]

they said they're reworking summoner soon

[icy sphinx]

like atleast give us a mix of all stuff instead of staying on kaledio

[valid crypt]

Summoner overhaul is not being a mini update

[icy sphinx]

not that

[cunning sequoia]

future updates will definitely be smaller

[icy sphinx]

IM TALKING AS IN A SMALL ONE

[cunning sequoia]

nobody wants a repeat of this

[buoyant pulsar]

i don't play summoner. i just want a class that takes more engagement than literally just holding m1 at them and dodging. if the entire engagement of your class comes from what gear you use instead of actually using it, then thats not fun

[valid crypt]

They cant add whips cause the current ones op rn

[icy sphinx]

like some tiny thing to give us more enjoyability in the class

[icy sphinx]

kaledio?

[buoyant pulsar]

i've played summoner before recently by the way just to say

[valid crypt]

Would snap the balance in half

[cinder hearth]

Yeah it's busted as fuck

[desert garnet]

so you hate all classes

[rich ginkgo]

yes lol

[icy sphinx]

maybe.

[rich ginkgo]

summoner is insanely op

[icy sphinx]

i still want more whips

[buoyant pulsar]

what in the strawman 😭

[cinder hearth]

There is no maybe

[cunning sequoia]

the reason why whips are taking so long is because summoner needs a whole rebalance

[valid crypt]

Summoner is already arguably the offensively strongest class it needs not more buffs

[cunning sequoia]

adding whips to calamity summoner made it go from pretty good to obscenely broken

[rich ginkgo]

you will get them when summoner is overhauled and nerfed, so more whips can be fit in without being game breaking

[lapis oak]

Brother Kaleidoscope and Morning Star are like in the top 5 strongest weapons

[graceful ivy]

Play true melee

[cunning sequoia]

and the devs want to fix that before breaking it even further

[icy sphinx]

top 5 for summoner ig but each class has their top 5. but not overall

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah brotha like the stratus weapons they're adding

[cunning sequoia]

no like

[lapis oak]

Top 5 in the game

[cunning sequoia]

you can take kaleidoscope and morning star to scal

[icy sphinx]

the

what

[cunning sequoia]

and they'll still be good

[cinder hearth]

No, top 5 IN THE GAME

[icy sphinx]

huh???

[lapis oak]

Bro

[icy sphinx]

WASINT IT 300 FUCKING DMG?

[valid crypt]

Multiplicative damage

[cunning sequoia]

whips are THAT broken

[buoyant pulsar]

which actually have a 2nd mechanic other than just aiming at the enemy while holding m1 and waiting for them to die

[lapis oak]

You are so wrong for saying Whips are bad 💀

[valid crypt]

The tag multiplies your dps by a lot

[rich ginkgo]

and no they cant add whips first as a "mini update" because that'd force the post moonlord whip or whatever the fuck to be like 2x worse than kaleidoscope lmao

[lapis oak]

They're the reasons summoner is OP as fuck

[icy sphinx]

bro i thought WHEN YALL SAID MULTI I THOUGHT AS IN JUST SUMMONS NOT WHIP DMG TOO.

[cunning sequoia]

summoner was fine in 1.3

perfectly good class

then 1.4 made it ridiculous

[buoyant pulsar]

summoner was dodge simulator in 1.3

[icy sphinx]

well anyways has the devs said what the next update was?

[cunning sequoia]

sunken sea overhaul

[cinder hearth]

Calamity changes how whips work, and tag damage is not just flat damage per hit anymore, it's a straight up multiplier

You know how rage is like, 1.35x damage? Morning star and kaleidoscope together are 1.48x. that's just something you can get for free

[valid crypt]

Sunken sea overhaul

[rich ginkgo]

sso

[icy sphinx]

dang it

[cunning sequoia]

main focus is the sunken sea ofc but there's also a ton of reworks to different items

[valid crypt]

Something stronger then rage for free
Balanced

[buoyant pulsar]

then why dont they just. change it to not do that

if its a cal change

[icy sphinx]

hell needs a rework instead of sunken is what i feel like more

[cunning sequoia]

because it was still broken

[valid crypt]

Brimstone crags is after it

[rich ginkgo]

that comes after

[lapis oak]

Priority

[icy sphinx]

alrihgt

wait how do yall even know😭

[rich ginkgo]

sunken sea is like a joke currently

so it comes first

[valid crypt]

Know what

[icy sphinx]

what the future updates are

[valid crypt]

Because the devs share their plans

[lapis oak]

Talking with devs in here

This is the spoiler channel

[valid crypt]

Its not uncommon to see devs chatting here

[icy sphinx]

ohh

im usually in help and advice

[valid crypt]

Im mainly in here and lore chat

[cinder hearth]

Well changing it to be multiplicative was a way to keep whips relevant in post ML without it being too OP at certain points in the game

They're going to do a whole summoner rebalance anyways, so they'll address it there

[valid crypt]

Btw theres a doc with all public plans in the pins iirc

[icy sphinx]

i mean im not really trusting it since it said not everythings confirmed

didnt it?

[valid crypt]

Yeah plans can change

[dusk bronze]

everything is confirmed but subject to change

[valid crypt]

But its still got what we know

[icy sphinx]

aighty

[buoyant pulsar]

cool 👍

[torn cairn]

wdym

i'm pretty sure it was abysmal before 1.3

[distant raft]

before 1.3 yeah

[torn cairn]

no i meant

[distant raft]

during 1.3 it was fine

[torn cairn]

before 1.4

[lapis oak]

Calamity Summoner

Not vanilla

[torn cairn]

ohhhhhh

mb

[distant raft]

1.4 made it obscene thanks to whips

[torn cairn]

yeah especially in cal

but even in vanilla it was very busted at the start

[lapis oak]

Multiplicative

[torn cairn]

yes

[native thistle]

no spoilers have been talked in the production of this calamity

[vivid hemlock]

perish and starve

[vivid hemlock]

you reek

[lapis oak]

🤬

I'm posting it again just to spite u

[vivid hemlock]

im throwing you back into the mantle

[real axle]

Is this meant to be the reworked weapons but it's sorted by progression?

[inner timber]

earth better get buffed

[vivid hemlock]

any changes basically

some have been completely remade

some got a bugfix

[real axle]

Wait a minute

Claret Cannon is turning into a classless weapon?

[upper plover]

Yes

[lapis oak]

reworked/received big changes/improvements/visual upgrades

basically turned fresh

[real axle]

Neat

There seems to be a lot of cool changes happening

[dull heart]

#spoilers message

[dull heart]

Hi you missed that tracers are getting wing toggles + Elysian is getting retiered post sentinel

[lapis oak]

fine I'll add Tracers...

btw the metaballs blood orbs idea is still real ye?

[dull heart]

yes

[lapis oak]

🥳

[high scaffold]

SSO is...
Real?

[cinder hearth]

No, it is not, never was, and never will be

It's all a joke

[high scaffold]

October-November

[cinder hearth]

Yeah that's definitely not happening, iirc the earliest estimates are late December now

Because silksong happened

[distant raft]

a second indie game has hit the cal dev team

[cinder hearth]

Hades 2

[high scaffold]

We need "please" as a sticker fr

[distant raft]

a third indie game has hit the cal dev team

[high scaffold]

Cal dev team is knocked out

[vivid hemlock]

[high scaffold]

A very fair name for it

[boreal edge]

Thanks Amidias

[torn cairn]

wdym

why would silkson matter

[high scaffold]

Because

Skong

[cunning sequoia]

everything stopped when silksong released

[torn cairn]

Swanky Kong?

[high scaffold]

Silksong Kong

[pulsar cobalt]

the second indie game has hit the calamity mod team

[high scaffold]

I saw everything

[torn cairn]

sso's hype is better than silk kong or whatever it's name

[cunning sequoia]

nop

[distant raft]

made the same joke but later award

[versed heart]

Everything changed when the Skong nation attacked

[pulsar cobalt]

sorry i dont read wat u say

(havent backread yet)

[cunning sequoia]

tsuki can't read 💔

my condolences

diagnosed with undertale fan

[distant raft]

terminal tmod and undertale fan syndrome

[cinder hearth]

Most devs played/are playing it

[torn cairn]

needs calamity treatment

[high scaffold]

Has to treated with reading lore drops

[white aurora]

clamorty

[torn cairn]

rickimity

[high scaffold]

SSO stands for slopedy slop overload

[hoary flicker]

where virid vanguard rework

[pulsar cobalt]

heartbraking, calamity reported to use ai for enemies in new sso update

[pulsar cobalt]

#calamity-mod-talk message

[high scaffold]

Ai slop

With so called "unique ai"

[cunning sequoia]

ai slope

wheee

[hoary flicker]

ok thats cool

[hoary flicker]

is this a joke or what

[cunning sequoia]

-# the joke is that enemies have ai

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean

technically no

[hoary flicker]

OH

lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

pathfinding systems are called ai so

[high scaffold]

Fighter ai slop

[real axle]

This is really cool, but it seems very broken

[dull heart]

that's not the final balancing state of it

[pulsar cobalt]

it wasnt balanced in that video

[cunning sequoia]

yharim ai leak

[dull heart]

It's purposely left overtuned for ease of demonstration

[torn cairn]

real mods control the mobs themselves to attack the player

[real axle]

Ok fair

[pulsar cobalt]

no thatd be fabsolian yharim

[high scaffold]

The ultimate form of evolution of a zombie

[cunning sequoia]

real mods trap a vengeful spirit in their computer to control the game

[torn cairn]

yes

[pulsar cobalt]

yharim would have paladin ai under fabsolian rule

[cunning sequoia]

guys my terraria is called terraria.exe what do i do

[dull heart]

vengeful like

[pulsar cobalt]

😨

[torn cairn]

scary terraria 😈

[cinder hearth]

Finally found it

[pulsar cobalt]

terrarian.exe will find you irl

[dull heart]

This is only half of it

[torn cairn]

it's because it's hallooween soon

[pulsar cobalt]

he will be behind you

[cunning sequoia]

oh thats fine

[hoary flicker]

where the axes

[torn cairn]

i do not know how to speell haloween

[cinder hearth]

Check the video again

It has the zenith attack too

[high scaffold]

Seems balanced, nerf miner

[dull heart]

I literally made the video it only shows half of it

[cinder hearth]

Oh lol

[cinder hearth]

Word

[torn cairn]

that slashing attack thing is sooooooo cool

[obtuse hawk]

me when myh vanguard is virid

[cinder hearth]

Virid my vanguard

[obtuse hawk]

☝️ ☝️

[cinder hearth]

Photon ripper 0.5

[high scaffold]

Zenith from temu

[cinder hearth]

Oh btw does this mean you have to hold the item to have the cooldown go down at all?

To like, make it compete with whip time?

[dull heart]

yes, the cooldown requires holding the item for 5 seconds straight

[cinder hearth]

Ooooh

[hoary edge]

absolute banger

[torn kite]

Sso tomorrow

[lapis oak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/1obj0g4/calamity_developer_ama_9_october_2025/

FUCK

I actually forgot there's no embeds

[vivid hemlock]

kiri intelligence

[lapis oak]

boiling myself

[high scaffold]

SSO is stuck between time and space

[late eagle]

Kiri's mind is just an empty white space

Nothing ever happens

[thorny glacier]

calamity mod

[torn cairn]

perry the calamity mod?!

[thorny glacier]

perry the platypus calamity mod!!

[dull heart]

L

I have embeds here I think

https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/1obj0g4/calamity_developer_ama_9_october_2025/

[slate prawn]

im wondering what am I suppose to do if the guide accessory exceed seven? do I just pick the one I prefer? or is there a reason that theres more than seven?

[dense sundial]

It’s just giving examples

I gotta say I find it really funny that post-Provi melee is only advised to use a single weapon

[slate prawn]

I cant find any recent guide for true melee

so I kinda struggle my way through with weird weapon

[dense sundial]

Oh is that a true melee page

I am a true melee guide incarnate, if you want to ask me for help instead

[slate prawn]

sure thatd be great!

[dense sundial]

But also why are we in spoiler talk

[slate prawn]

idk if these item consider as late game spoiler or not so im here just to be safe

[distant raft]

this channel is for things usually referred to as teasers

[slate prawn]

oh ok. my bad.

[dull heart]

This guide is outdated

[slate prawn]

yep I kinda thought so

[dull heart]

the top of the page says the last version it was made for

[slate prawn]

yeah but I cant find any other guide

[valid crypt]

WHAT THE FUCK

[vivid hemlock]

[valid crypt]

DIE

[obtuse hawk]

Lemon magic

[quaint kite]

I recommend checking on yt. I often used gitgudwo's or brome's guides

[lapis oak]

uhh

probably not

[quaint kite]

then idk

Me, personally, used their class guides

And it wasn't bad for me

[rare tinsel]

ough

i’m true melee

[dull heart]

hi true melee

[vivid hemlock]

true melee

[dense sundial]

I’m true melee ackchually

Prikki is quantum superposition melee

[rare tinsel]

simultaneously true and false until tested

[drowsy reef]

Ditch the Community you don’t need it

[lean relic]

its time (yet again)

[fathom girder]

40 "when will the update happen" questions incoming

[modern grove]

Why will the update happen

[vivid hemlock]

troodon posting

[earnest jewel]

How will the update happen?

[cinder hearth]

What will the update happen

[halcyon seal]

Where will the update happen

[wooden fulcrum]

who will the update happen?

[hushed hazel]

when will i be free of this frail mortal shell

[modern grove]

Spread my rot

[agile latch]

🦈 banished by the goverment

cant reply

[tropic jolt]

Reddit gold for everyone

[lapis oak]

Tringle what the fuck are you talking about on Reddit

what the fuck I can't comment on that

1984

[vivid hemlock]

kiri fright

[lapis oak]

🥀

[wide wadi]

Triangle do you know all the difference triangle names

[hardy gulch]

youre acting very scalene

[agile latch]

comment tweaked

need to fix

use old reddit btw if you want to reply

(its working there for some reason)

[lapis oak]

why is it like that 💔

[vivid hemlock]

kiri refresh ur screen

[vivid hemlock]

💥

[lean relic]

lmao theres more

[trail brook]

yo, when will the devs start working on that

[vivid hemlock]

what

working on what

[trail brook]

a big update or smth

[vivid hemlock]

if you mean the next update theyre still working on it

[earnest jewel]

Presently.

[trail brook]

this will come in the next update?

[lapis oak]

booo you're missing 2 from me

tssk tssk tssk

[desert garnet]

yea

[desert garnet]

those are only spoiled ones

[trail brook]

noic

[desert garnet]

there are more

[trail brook]

yaeh i watched a yt video

[earnest jewel]

Now read the document so you have the actual correct information.

[desert garnet]

yea

yt videos arent great

[trail brook]

I am not planning to do another playthrough till a big update drope

cuz iam already done 4

[lapis oak]

Mura's one right

it's been 1 year already

so it's not up to date anymore

[trail brook]

yep thats what i saw

[wide wadi]

Bro they ores look the same

[lapis oak]

ngl he should make an updated version of it it's already been 1 year

[earnest jewel]

That would require research and Calamity YouTubers don't do that.

[wide wadi]

wtf is this most of this stuff isn’t making it in the update let’s be honest

[lapis oak]

bro

[wide wadi]

[lapis oak]

Mura talked to devs

[wide wadi]

I talked to the devs

@dull heart

@agile latch

Give me the confirmation

I need back up for my claim

[lean relic]

bro just pinged them

[wide wadi]

[lean relic]

have the yharon resprite lore instead

[wide wadi]

Bruh Thai sprite been circling for years

[valid crypt]

Yeah

[dull heart]

Who hast pung me

[azure oak]

all but two of these are made by me

[wide wadi]

This ain’t becoming a reality until 3035

[azure oak]

i am john charter

[wide wadi]

Me back up my claim that most of these list are bogus binted

[dull heart]

I have no idea

[wide wadi]

[lone marsh]

Doze's lucky I ain't behind allat

[dull heart]

They all suck because none of them have the cool thing I can't spoil in them

[wide wadi]

The cool thing being your new summon weapon rework

Hehe I know all doze spoilers

[dull heart]

No

[west hound]

they dont need any rework except immaterializer imo

[west hound]

maybe this even needs no rework either

just resprite

[wide wadi]

Is the Immateriliser the green sword summon

[west hound]

the exo summon weapon

[wide wadi]

The one with the 4 arms

That thing is cool as beans

[west hound]

that's exoskeleton

[wide wadi]

No need for a rework

[west hound]

no definitely

[wide wadi]

I ain’t never use this

[west hound]

this is what i was talking about

[west hound]

me neither

exoskeleton rules

[wide wadi]

Bruh you just said it needed a rework

[vivid hemlock]

rotten place

[lean relic]

so true vanillian

[hushed hazel]

i think there's a bit of confusion here

cosmic immaterializer and such are miracle matter weapons, separate from the exos' drops

[west hound]

doesn't they called as exo weapons

[wide wadi]

Cosmic

[rich ginkgo]

no

[hushed hazel]

they used to be

[west hound]

ok my bad

[hushed hazel]

but now that the exo mechs exist and have their own weapons, and miracle matter exists, the crafted ones are usually distinguished from the normal drops as miracle matter weapons rather than exo weapons

[west hound]

got it

[agile latch]

exo is the exo mechs direct drop

miracle stuff is called miracle

[west hound]

so the point i wanted to say is immaterializer needs some kind of update

[vivid hemlock]

yeah its gonna get a resprite and rework eventually

[lone marsh]

Is cosmic discharge getting reworked with the other DoG drops

[rich ginkgo]

arent all miracle matter weapons

[vivid hemlock]

uh

all are getting resprites

not all are getting reworked

[rich ginkgo]

yeah i dont think exoblade needs a rework

i doubt it’d get one

[west hound]

exoblade is cool as fuck

[bright crane]

are this concepts fanmade?

[atomic bay]

no

iban made

[vivid hemlock]

iban made them

and they are scrapped

except for ark of the elements

since that one's already in the mod

[lapis oak]

scrapped

[west hound]

I see the old elemental blaster

[vivid hemlock]

kiri snail

[bright crane]

ive seen the other version too

[vivid hemlock]

these are scrapped

period

made by mihaii

[lapis oak]

scrapped

[vivid hemlock]

kiri snail 2

[rich ginkgo]

yeah these are also gone

[atomic bay]

yeah we get it

[bright crane]

do you know why??

[atomic bay]

scissors are the only one that got in before the great purge of 22

[wide wadi]

Iban makes the fables mod

[rich ginkgo]

bc the guy who made them plagiarized

and booted himself out

[wide wadi]

So these sprites won’t be in calamity

[rich ginkgo]

and when he did he this requested that all his concept art be removed with him

[bright crane]

oh i get it

[rich ginkgo]

(it’d kinda have to be removed anyways because most of it was stolen work lmao)

[atomic bay]

what

[wide wadi]

Wait Iban stole those ideas

[atomic bay]

no

[rich ginkgo]

no?

[vivid hemlock]

it was mihaii

[wide wadi]

I don’t think so

[rich ginkgo]

mihaii

[atomic bay]

ah

makes sense

[west hound]

so are there no 'current' concepts of elemental weapons

[atomic bay]

there are

[rich ginkgo]

maybe in dev

[lapis oak]

not public

[rich ginkgo]

just not public

[atomic bay]

dia has made most of them

[rich ginkgo]

actually no definitely in dev

because ive seen one

🥹

[vivid hemlock]

yes, but they arent public except for like one

[atomic bay]

if you join his rare streams you can see them

thats all i say, just know they look good

[vivid hemlock]

nitro made concept art and some of the spriters have sprited them

[rich ginkgo]

yeah he streams in cal art all the time and he’s always got some random sheet up with a bunch of random shit he’s working on

[wide wadi]

Nitroglycerin

[vivid hemlock]

no

[rich ginkgo]

like the new rage and adrenaline bars last time i checked

[wide wadi]

Nitrate

[rich ginkgo]

they look so good

[wide wadi]

Nitride

Nitide

[lapis oak]

what

oh right

[vivid hemlock]

kiri this is public info

dummy

[lapis oak]

forgor

[west hound]

had never thought rage and adrenaline bars need resprites

[wide wadi]

Bruh we can’t tell Whats fake or been scrapped anymore

Some of these ideas are probably gone

[vivid hemlock]

wdym

[west hound]

but cant wait for the new one

[wide wadi]

You think all spoilers they show get added?

[rich ginkgo]

i mean yeah unless they say they’re scrapped content lmao

[wide wadi]

I’m sure some devs make stuff share it and then it gets scrapped down the line

[vivid hemlock]

i mean

its pretty clear when

something is scrapped or wip

[rich ginkgo]

so far every time something has been scrapped we’ve found out from the devs themselves, so

[vivid hemlock]

(like mihaii openly saying anything hes made concepts for being scrapped or triangle replacing an ancient sunken sea sprite and posting it)

[west hound]

did devs reveal every scrapped concepts

or am I just misunderstanding

[vivid hemlock]

wdym by reveal

like show scrapped art or just say that it has been scrapped even if we havent seen it

[west hound]

former one

[vivid hemlock]

ah

not everything scrapped has been shown, either the artist who made it didnt give permission, or they just havent felt like showing it

[lapis oak]

Iban

but not every scrapped contents

[vivid hemlock]

kiri iban isnt the only former dev

[west hound]

I remember some concepts by mr.small

donno if its ok to say the name though

[lapis oak]

I gave 1 example

tupid

[vivid hemlock]

don care

[dusk bronze]

he's not voldemort

[brave star]

Voldemort

[vivid hemlock]

all of bird's concepts will be scrapped

[west hound]

cuz of what he did

[rich ginkgo]

who tf is mr. small 😭

[dusk bronze]

even polterghast? they're still working on that sprite

[vivid hemlock]

sg core resprite has a decent chance of being replaced, all of the miracle matter concepts they did are already being replaced

[vivid hemlock]

what?

[west hound]

just trying to be careful

[dusk bronze]

what

[rich ginkgo]

wasnt it already confirmed sg core was being replaced

with a new sprite

[vivid hemlock]

tobias and triangle are the ones working on polter

[jagged copper]

speaking of Voldemort, imagine if we had The Elder Wand as a magic weapon

[vivid hemlock]

bird never did anything for it afaik

[dusk bronze]

bird made the concept art

[earnest jewel]

I doubt that would happen.

[vivid hemlock]

tobias did iirc

[dusk bronze]

hm

[rich ginkgo]

yeah i dont think so

i think it was solely tobias and triangle working on polter

[lapis oak]

what

when did bird made Polterghast concept come from

[vivid hemlock]

this is not bird pilled at all

[jagged copper]

[rich ginkgo]

holy concept art

[jagged copper]

reminds me of Ermac a bit

[vivid hemlock]

thats not the official conept art

[jagged copper]

1st and 2nd appearance looks too much like Abyssion from Thorium

[dusk bronze]

i always see it packaged with the ds art, and remember on the future doc where it was like "due to reasons, ds concept art will never be shown here"
it said the same thing about the polterghast art

[vivid hemlock]

it wont be shown because red nation

[rich ginkgo]

bc triangle is like heavily against any reddit users seeing his work

[lapis oak]

the doc is talking about Tobias concept 😭

[raw pendant]

It was

It was by bird

Who used to be official artist

But fuck em

[dusk bronze]

it used the same wording
checks out tho

[lyric trellis]

Inspired by peak clearly

[vivid hemlock]

it used the same wording because of the same reasons

[lapis oak]

we'll never see Inanis' Polterghast

[dusk bronze]

wait

nevermind i'm stupid

[vivid hemlock]

rest in piece inanis i will miss your concept art

[lapis oak]

they keep saying it's fucking peak and just continue keep it hidden

[vivid hemlock]

i wonder why kiri

[lapis oak]

tupid I know

[vivid hemlock]

no you dont

[dusk bronze]

what happened to inanis (ik they left but why)

[lapis oak]

just irritating

[vivid hemlock]

we dont rlly have much and also things are complex

[dusk bronze]

true

[vivid hemlock]

iirc miracle matter was a partial factor if what tobias said is true

[lapis oak]

it was the reason

[vivid hemlock]

kiri im going to melt your brain into a stew

[stone zephyr]

im for it

[lapis oak]

I'm correcting you 🤫

[vivid hemlock]

idc

[lapis oak]

Let's start the Winter MM discussion

[vivid hemlock]

what if i broil you

[dusk bronze]

is this mm discussion about the dia leaks or the concept art that i just now found out exists

[rich ginkgo]

the 1 day blinding stew made from melted kiri brain matter

[lapis oak]

Why 1 day 😭

What does that even mean

[dusk bronze]

blinds you for 1 day

[rich ginkgo]

those who know

[earnest jewel]

The stew that makes you go blind for one day.

[lapis oak]

When will Iban anime cat girl be added to Calamity Mod

[desert garnet]

return the slab

[distant raft]

hmmmm. we must grow kiris en masse to make it a perpetual stew

[hasty briar]

is this one of the designs for sylva?
i found it when searching for calamity

[valid crypt]

No

[distant raft]

#lore-discussion message

[valid crypt]

Heres silva design

[valid crypt]

😭 you linked to me

[distant raft]

snail react

yeah

it was the closest on hand

[valid crypt]

My message took a solid minute to load

[lapis oak]

Is this from a website called Total Calamity or something

[distant raft]

yeah pretty sure thats the total calamity silva design

[hasty briar]

no idea yoinked it off pinterest

[stone fiber]

Who tf is bird

[hasty tangle]

old dev

[fathom girder]

fanart from random sources is usually not accurate

[hasty tangle]

bad person

[lapis oak]

former dev

[valid crypt]

@hasty briar here is silva

[hasty briar]

Thats a really fkin cool design wtf

[valid crypt]

Yeah cal characters have cool designs

Agnus is cool

[full quest]

6sSSSSsss

[valid crypt]

?

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[rich ginkgo]

ill never get over the giant flower having a sad face as it's being used as a chair 😭 😭

[valid crypt]

:<

[dull heart]

:<

[versed heart]

(:<

[brave star]

:3

[dusk bronze]

:3

[thorny glacier]

:

[agile latch]

it wasnt

never was, was mostly a for fun thing by bird i think

i was always the one who had polter bookmarked to work on (on the new team) and the plan was always to work with tobias user for it

[agile latch]

new polter concept art and design is by me and tobias, not bird (concept art by tobias user)

[dull heart]

L

[tropic jolt]

what if polterghast was betrayed and trapped in development hell for 10,000,000 years

[vast lark]

what are some goods addon for calamity

[real axle]

Wrong channel

[dusk bronze]

good 2 know

[lapis oak]

😡

[shell sapphire]

Huh

[tropic jolt]

the hollow knight needs to stop aura farming so much "no mind to think" yeah sure buddy

[rich ginkgo]

"no mind to think" and he willingly stabs himself like 15 times during the boss fight

[misty wren]

yeah it just comes naturally

doesnt need to think to aura farm

[kind tinsel]

its inherited

[high scaffold]

Chat, remind me, is entire elemental weapons line getting a rework in SSO or only a part

[vivid hemlock]

not the entire set

[limpid grotto]

If the DoG resprite isn't out how come infernum has it already or did they sprite it themselves?

[high scaffold]

And some just get a resprite yes?

Like flamethrower thats already reworked

[distant raft]

inf dog is a custom sprite

[spark kiln]

different sprite

[distant raft]

and iirc was released before dog's distortion update sprite got revealed

[vivid hemlock]

yeah inf dog is different from the official resprite

[limpid grotto]

Hmm ok thx

[high scaffold]

Im infernum non liker

So whatever

[valid crypt]

The resprite of dog is like Providence sized for one segment

Infernum is not that big

[spark kiln]

cool

[high scaffold]

Waiting for distortion update or fables take on DoG

[distant raft]

inf dog is marginally bigger than current basecal p2 dog

[high scaffold]

Isnt fables team also the one that made eel type DoG?

With auric armor

[distant raft]

???

[valid crypt]

Iban dog

[distant raft]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[valid crypt]

Iban dog

[vivid hemlock]

iban phase 2 dog wont be the armored design anymore

[distant raft]

ive never heard of a fuckign auric devourer of gods

[vivid hemlock]

phase 1 will stay but the auric mask one with cosmilite armor (phase 2) was scrapped

[high scaffold]

At that time I was looking at calamity from outside so my knowledge is shallow

[rich ginkgo]

it just had gilded armor, definitely not auric

if it was auric dog would most likely implode lmao

[valid crypt]

Isnt auric rejection a new lore only thing

[kind tinsel]

itss new

[rich ginkgo]

im like 99% sure it still wasnt auric, just gold

[vivid hemlock]

it was auric since dog worked for yharim in the old lore or smth iirc

[kind tinsel]

why would an endgame boss wear gold

and not epic sauce awesome gold

[valid crypt]

Dog has the ego

[valid crypt]

True

[kind tinsel]

he would wear the aura

gold

not the lame

[rich ginkgo]

bc gold symbolizes wealth and power

[high scaffold]

Do we have anything in calamity that is set in stone rn?

[rich ginkgo]

and dog is very egotistical and self absorbed

[kind tinsel]

jesser what the fuck are you talking about

[rich ginkgo]

it was also like.. barely armor

the most defensive part is the mask

[kind tinsel]

ok think of dog like a pet dog

[rich ginkgo]

it's obviously just an aesthetic choice and wouldnt need to be made of auric

[kind tinsel]

im gonna give him a fuckass costume if i were junjile tyrant man

[rich ginkgo]

except dog isnt a dog

top 10 sentences of all time

[kind tinsel]

whats the difference

[kind tinsel]

hes got the UY

YY

[rich ginkgo]

stalemate

good game

[high scaffold]

Thats it, Im switching to fables

[kind tinsel]

☺️

[high scaffold]

They have an actualy good desert scourge and reverse kinematics

[kind tinsel]

cal has beeg lizor

[hushed hazel]

have fun

[kind tinsel]

i like

[vivid hemlock]

okay

[hushed hazel]

anyway i want hamburger

[barren nacelle]

Alright? Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out?

[kind tinsel]

desert scourge looks kinda tasty

[high scaffold]

Im №1 hater of lizard desert scourge

[kind tinsel]

theres no need for such hostility

[high scaffold]

Thats all, of course humorous

[rich ginkgo]

this is like when apple fans call the new iphones not innovating and interesting and then when they changed the camera bump on the back everybody cried about it and called it ugly

[vivid hemlock]

i dont think thats an apt comparison

[high scaffold]

Read above

[rich ginkgo]

im too lazy to think of a better comparison though

it's close enough so i stuck with it

[kind tinsel]

its like having two cakes but one is really unhealthy for you

[high scaffold]

I am interested in lizard desert scourge, I just like worm bosses

[native thistle]

First time anyone has said that

[kind tinsel]

unhinged

[high scaffold]

People on the internet when people have their own opinions

[native thistle]

Lock em up

[rich ginkgo]

no one is bashing you for your opinion lol

[native thistle]

I agree, we should ban opinions.

[rich ginkgo]

if you like worms better and wanna play fables go play fables man

[distant raft]

i think everyone who doesn't think exactly like me needs to be executed

[high scaffold]

If the boss is worm that doesnt mean you have to give it generic worm ai, crazy right

[hushed hazel]

this whole convo is cooked i'm scrapping the whole thing

run it back

[kind tinsel]

i thought you said throw it back

[native thistle]

Darn it, I was getting ready

[hushed hazel]

you have mere days left

[distant raft]

sorry i keep eating it when its almost done i just get too hungry

[kind tinsel]

do i get a cake

[native thistle]

Isn't it mostly water tho? Of course you are always hungry

[vivid hemlock]

the drink

[distant raft]

theres a lot of rock and fish there too

mainly dead fish

[kind tinsel]

mmm fry up

[native thistle]

Sorry I ate them first 😋

[distant raft]

the jellyghouls make my tummy upset :(

[high scaffold]

But if desert scourge will be lizard, what will happen to aquatic scourge

[distant raft]

no

[high scaffold]

Arent they related

[kind tinsel]

calamity has fallen, millions must play good mods

[vivid hemlock]

salamander

[native thistle]

Fish

[kind tinsel]

i was thinking can the cal patreon money go toward buying several racehorses

[vivid hemlock]

real life cnidrion

[kind tinsel]

thats what im saying

[distant raft]

this is true they are making umamusume real

[kind tinsel]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING GET IT TWISTED

they can make more money gambling

and the remaining horses can be used to give tours to kids in rural wisconsin

[native thistle]

Hos

[kind tinsel]

theres actually no downsides

why don't they develop cal on the basis of talmudic rabbinical teachings

[fringe quiver]

itll also be redesigned

just not now

its not like the current ds and as sprite look alike as is

[brave star]

I wonder what animal will AS will be inspired by

If the ice worm thing from subnautica was for DS

[rich ginkgo]

another worm thing but from subnautica 2 when it comes out never

[frail owl]

add the crow mauler

and the gull bros as well

[dull heart]

hi

[frail owl]

hi

[visual inlet]

hi

[versed heart]

I hope Doze eventually Bulldozes something if he hasn't already

[tropic jolt]

dozing doze

[brave star]

Hi doze

You dozing off on the clock?

[versed heart]

Dozer

[visual inlet]

straight dozing it

[dull heart]

no i'm off the clock

[brave star]

Ok

[buoyant pulsar]

about the mage rework thing

sorry for the yap lmao

@rich ginkgo guh

also im not like tilted over this i just wanted to ramble

[versed heart]

Calamity thing?

[buoyant pulsar]

yuh

we were talking abt it last night

[versed heart]

Almost wish it was about vanilla but that's a whole entire other thing, and I have no idea what's in store here

[stuck kite]

to be fair this is just as random of a project

just easier to get invested in

[rich ginkgo]

i do too but i dont really see re-logic ever expanding upon the 4 core classes when it comes to their mechanics and the way they function

[stuck kite]

i feel like its rare to see relogic tread back a spinal function of the game

[versed heart]

I mean, they gave Summoner Whips, but Summoner also exclusively had summons and sentries, and was not in the original game.

[stuck kite]

the regen and mana regen formula are absolute trainwrecks but there's no way anything is gonna happen to those

[rich ginkgo]

yeahhh that's what im kinda getting at, i wouldnt expect them to overhaul an entire class when they havent ever really done something like that before

[stuck kite]

same for minion slot allocation

[rich ginkgo]

and if they were to attempt at doing so, i doubt mage would be their biggest priority

[stuck kite]

giving summoner whips did not retrace any things they did before

its adding more things