calamity-update-talk

[spark girder]

ASGORE

[fathom girder]

Done

I sacrificed 8 just to make sure

[vivid hemlock]

the seven amidias souls

[thorny fjord]

perfect, 8 souls to summon @hard hearth

[fathom girder]

DAMNIT JUST CHANGE THE

RAHHHHHHHHH

[hard hearth]

[kind tinsel]

one day im going to reach dracula flow levels of peak

[valid crypt]

Calamity future talk

[kind tinsel]

just you wait

TEASER

ITS GOTTA BE TEASER, that is what spoiler-talk needs

[thorny fjord]

For context, we want the channel Changed to Calamity Teaser Talk, or Calamity Future Content Talk or someting similar to avoid confusion

[hard hearth]

from the depths of hell i lay dormant... who has disturbed my slumber

[valid crypt]

Raesh

[dull heart]

So many people come here misunderstanding channel name

[hard hearth]

oh

this talk again

i mean we all know how that went last time we tried it

[valid crypt]

Change it to deltarune talk

[fathom girder]

is changing the name a 5% crit moment

[hard hearth]

i suppose giving it another go doesn't hurt other than having to spend time monitoring stuff

[tropic jolt]

the turn

[dull heart]

#bast-statue-appreciation

[hard hearth]

but i still dont think it's gonna do anything

[arctic cliff]

Ein, let me put it simple:

When a newcomer sees the name "calamity-spoiler-talk", what are they going to assume its for?

[hard hearth]

calamity spoilers

[dull heart]

which they think is like... Endgame bosses or story

[hard hearth]

would be the first thing i'd imagine

[dull heart]

not like, future content teasers

[hard hearth]

which we have a channel called spoilers where people can't talk

[tropic jolt]

what if it was #calamity-discuss-upcoming-content-DIFFERENT-FROM-CALAMITY-MOD-TALK

[hard hearth]

hence spoiler talk

[arctic cliff]

Important thing, what we mean by "spoiler" is not the same thing as what "spoiler" is used for across the internet

[dull heart]

I do think #spoilers should also be renamed to #teasers probably

[hard copper]

Yeah but, spoilers for current mod content or future updates, because some people think its the former

[arctic cliff]

however, we use "spoilers" for teasers

[dull heart]

teasers clarifies it's future content and not current content

[arctic cliff]

this im going to assume is because that's how relogic does it

[uneven gate]

doesnt the channel description tell you what the channel is for

[earnest jewel]

People don't read that.

[kind tinsel]

no one reads

[hard hearth]

it does but people dont look at that

[tropic jolt]

is this channel not also about current content when updates happen?

[valid crypt]

People dont read

[uneven gate]

too bad

just direct them to it problem solved

[arctic cliff]

I think that one guy who said "calamity-update-talk" said it best

[hard hearth]

i agree with that sentiment

[hasty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-galaxy2-mario-jump-off-the-edge-too-bad-video-game-gif-17524420

[hard hearth]

but seems like a lot of people don't

[hard copper]

smg my beloved

[uneven gate]

Marlo

[arctic cliff]

it gets the point across that its about updates, and could even be useful when a future update becomes a present update

[fathom girder]

who doesn't want this to change

[hard hearth]

other way around

[kind tinsel]

the voices in ein's head

[fathom girder]

oops

[hard hearth]

i have one voice in my head and it's my own

[tropic jolt]

ooohhhh you want to rename the channel ooohhh scary

[agile latch]

Hopefully not

[hard hearth]

(it is)

[agile latch]

Otherwise we are going to have a pseudo cmt with teaser talk

[fathom girder]

(lmao)

[agile latch]

At the same time

[hard hearth]

it's traditionally always been used like that yeah

[still bluff]

calamity-mod-talk-again

[fathom girder]

Like spoiler-talk works in theory, but what players consider to be spoilers is really

nebulous

apparently

[agile latch]

At the same time someone is talking about random expert stuff, there will be yharon or exo mechs rework teasers

[hard hearth]

spoiler talk because when a new update comes out people could talk about the spoilers in this channel

[agile latch]

And future resprites and other stuff

[uneven gate]

what happened last time a major update released, did a thread get created to keep all discussion within it?

[arctic cliff]

the bull elephant seal who is protecting his lot of the land that happens to have the computer that has the discord account who has permission to rename calcord names

[hard hearth]

it eventually got changed to this channel always being available

[arctic cliff]

that is the bastard responsible for this

[agile latch]

Old calamity economy hardly had

Teasers tho

So it worked there

[kind tinsel]

can we go back to that this is a bad dream

i want to wake up

[hard hearth]

i dont think that'd be a wise idea

[fathom girder]

Fabsol was a worse dream

[hard hearth]

cst is already bad

cmt is already bad

cst people going into cmt would be a nightmare

[arctic cliff]

clearly we need seal-talk

[kind tinsel]

what if we delete the server and remake it with blackjack and hookers smh

[sly sandal]

Deadass

[dull heart]

what if we do that and don't remake it

just leave it dead

[agile latch]

New unnoficial calamity discord server is made..

[sly sandal]

The only person I genuinely remember sneaking was Iban

[kind tinsel]

id be free

[agile latch]

Its the same fate as reddit

[agile latch]

Except its now worse too

[dull heart]

they'll end up deleting it too it's only natural

[agile latch]

And 2 new ones are made

[halcyon seal]

what if instead of #calamity-update-talk it was #shadow-the-hedgehog

[agile latch]

The hydra

[dull heart]

Hydra but it cuts off its own heads

[earnest jewel]

Real.

[tropic jolt]

wheres that damn 4th dog resprite

40th*

[kind tinsel]

my version was better smh

[still bluff]

we should go back to #bast-statue-appreciation doze is right

[cunning sequoia]

we should go back to #deltarune-tomorrow

[valid crypt]

Lea-channel

[cunning sequoia]

no

[valid crypt]

That was suggestion discussion

[valid crypt]

Léa-channel

[still bluff]

deltarune yesterday

[cunning sequoia]

still no

[vivid hemlock]

no

[kind tinsel]

9th circle of hell

[valid crypt]

Léa-discussion-channel

[arctic cliff]

#shadow-the-hedgetalk

[hard hearth]

i just took a look at the convo that started that and

the "its too confusing" comes from... this

rather than the channel name its the onboarding

incredible

[kind tinsel]

ein why are you letsplaying

[hard hearth]

wym

letsplaying what

[kind tinsel]

spoken internal dialogue

[hard hearth]

im still confused

[kind tinsel]

the bit didn't land nevermind

-2 me please

[hard hearth]

🥀

[late eagle]

Wdym we are the good guys

[kind tinsel]

merge them it would be peak

[cunning sequoia]

instructions unclear, sentenced to public execution

[kind tinsel]

🫡 i can't live with the shame of a failed notes app bit

[barren nacelle]

Is rimehound kill?

Oh and virulent slime is missing

[viral dove]

shimmer time

[dusk bronze]

indeed
#787577829147672596 message

wait

tf it won't let me forward it

whatever

[ocean jetty]

https://youtu.be/B59S51pgMTM

[dusk bronze]

thank

[obtuse hawk]

john fungufs

[ocean jetty]

tyeski will post it in spoilers

[brazen slate]

kid named embed fail

also why is this still my name

when and why did this happen

[hoary edge]

ooh vcmm shimmer theme

[ocean jetty]

you have been named this for several months

[brazen slate]

dude i have been named this for YEARS

[ocean jetty]

[brave star]

You made a peak shimmer

[ocean jetty]

dat was all Forge

not me

[brave star]

I forgor

Regardless it’s peak

[tropic jolt]

aethering

[brave star]

Shimmering

[late eagle]

THE FORGE ERA🔥 🔥 🔥

Finally we have all the cal musicians stones...

[late eagle]

weird

[wide wadi]

forge

porge

[distant raft]

can we get porridge in calamity

[brave star]

Can it be not too hot or cold

But just right

[gentle cliff]

lesbians

[brave star]

lesbians

[arctic cliff]

keksbians

[hard copper]

just like silksong

[tropic jolt]

the girls and the gays and sherma

[dusk bronze]

signalis reference??

[dusty tinsel]

Xzier why were you trying to ping everyone with youtube video links earlier 😂

you did it twice also

thought you got hacked

[dusk bronze]

whar

[tropic jolt]

50 dollar free bitcoin 🤑 only on fandom wiki

[dusty tinsel]

you tried to ping everyone while posting a youtube link twice here

like 4 hours ago

i only just noticed

[dusk bronze]

ohhhhh i tried to forward the aether theme post from the music server but it wouldn't let me

[dusty tinsel]

yah because of the everyone ping attempt

it blocked you for scamming

[dusk bronze]

why does the ping activate again when forwarded????

that's so dumb

[dusty tinsel]

ask discord lol

[pearl sentinel]

sherma985

[open steeple]

where

[stray hull]

infernum day empress of light is done

this shi's so hard

mainly because i cant see the attacks 😭

[open steeple]

aether monolith

[arctic cliff]

i cant wait to listen to t2encore

im already stuck listening to the snippet in #spoilers

[stone fiber]

Where did you post it?

(Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but is reaper shark getting unbuffed next update? I think I've heard something like this)

[tropic jolt]

reaver shark the pickaxe? it will be nerfed but will keep the ability to mine hellstone (I think)

[dusk bronze]

tyrant linked it in the message directly below mine

[stone fiber]

Thanks 😎👍

[stone fiber]

Oh okay I see
That's cool

Also, one more question: are we getting a resprite for pwnagehammer and fallen paladin's hammer's spectral hammer's?

[dusk bronze]

oddly specific

[dull heart]

that was also essentially 3 questions

[quiet spade]

Exo metal sonic

[hardy gulch]

"dead or alive, the terrarian is mine"

[azure oak]

actually i just forgor it

also i wasn't sure about virulent's status

[dusk bronze]

why is overloaded soldier there :hognar:

who invited bro

[azure oak]

is overloaded soldier getting removed?

[distant raft]

himself

[dusk bronze]

dead

killed

[azure oak]

source?

[dusk bronze]

looking

i swear i distinctly remember a dev saying they removed it

@sturdy elm does overloaded soldier yet live

[sturdy elm]

Girl I haven't touched this game in like a year 😭

[dusk bronze]

sry you're the only online dev other than heart and uberransy

[sturdy elm]

I was getting ready to go outside and touch grass 💀

Overloaded soldier lowkey kinda useless so I wouldn't be surprised if it got binned

Along with the other little phanto stone bug thing

[dusk bronze]

what stone bug thing

[hard copper]

Phantom debris

[dusk bronze]

didn't that get removed like 4 years ago

[distant raft]

didnt those get removed

[hard copper]

Its already removed yeah

[distant raft]

yeah

[dusk bronze]

me or someone else can ask ozz or doze tomorrow

[sturdy elm]

Oops

Like I said, I haven't played in awhile lmao

[stuck kite]

overloaded soldier is living right now

not particularly thriving

[hard copper]

Its a thing for low% ig

[lapis oak]

yes

[stuck kite]

the removal domino into ending runs requiring grinding it for plasm

[sturdy elm]

I also just checked the wiki and found out phantoplasm was renamed not once but twice 😌

[stuck kite]

instinctively in my head its phantoplasm and i dont even remember what its actually called

[dusk bronze]

necroplasm

since they removed polter name changes

[stuck kite]

the polter phase necroplasm

yeah

[hard copper]

should be renamed to plasmium 🧌

[stuck kite]

plasmium is also not real

[distant raft]

should be named ectoerplasm

[stuck kite]

lies made up by big alchemist

[sturdy elm]

Oh right I see why they did that

[dusk bronze]

it was called polterplasm for exactly 2 hotfixes iirc

[distant raft]

one update

[lapis oak]

bro is short-lived

[dusk bronze]

rip polterplasm 2023-2024

[quiet spade]

What's wrong with polter

What does even polter means

[dusk bronze]

half of poltergeist

[distant raft]

comes from poltergeist im guessing

[sturdy elm]

I'd guess it's the same reason drunk princess was binned but maybe I'm looking into it too much idk lol

[quiet spade]

I just love your name

[distant raft]

thank you, i worked hard for it

[quiet spade]

It shows

[quiet spade]

Thinking about it being from poltergeist, I guess it's because of aesthetic purposes

[dusk bronze]

i know the reason but it's a mildly long story

[quiet spade]

Just the reason why you don't call the demonite "corrupted ore"

Or auric ore "Yharim ore"

[dusk bronze]

yharim bar 🔥 🔥 🔥

[hard copper]

Huh, Poltergeist is rumble spirit in german

[quiet spade]

Fire

[azure oak]

fixed

[cunning sequoia]

draedon bars

[dusk bronze]

no they're still alive unfortunately

it's very upsetting

[quiet spade]

Draedon matter

[plush carbon]

Look at the astral enemies on this image

[distant raft]

draedon prisms

[plush carbon]

It’s so sad

[cunning sequoia]

💔

[distant raft]

i quite like the new eidolist sprite

[hard copper]

the real draedon bar

[cunning sequoia]

when the most potentially creative biome has the same color palette for every single fucking thing

[distant raft]

it looks more half cultist half eidolon instead of like 12.5% eidolon

[dusk bronze]

GO MY MONOPALETTES RAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[stark pond]

what the fu

[distant raft]

nuclear terror

[cunning sequoia]

beautiful boy

[quiet spade]

I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT

[stark pond]

this is gruesome and I love it

[quiet spade]

SO COOL THAT SULPHURIC SHI

[distant raft]

i also quite enjoy helicoprion representation

[plush carbon]

I hope the astral enemy redesigns won’t just be lumps of the same exact colours in the vague shape of an enemy

[quiet spade]

I wanna hug it

[dusk bronze]

fucked up alien egg thing (not actual alien)

[cunning sequoia]

i can already tell im gonna hate seeing it in motion

like scape and run enemies

just absolutely vile

[quiet spade]

Just like the time I saw the earth elemental first time

[distant raft]

glory to ancient vaguely shark like creatures

[dusk bronze]

remember the same person that made this is respriting ravager

[cunning sequoia]

i think thats the main thing they want to change

mono-palettes suck

[stark pond]

oh shit

[cunning sequoia]

in cal i mean

[stark pond]

no wonder

[dusk bronze]

why is it desaturated

[quiet spade]

That sky elemental is quite weird but sick

[cunning sequoia]

they can be done well but cal doesnt do them well

[dusk bronze]

me when every sunken sea enemy is inexplicably made of navystone

[lapis oak]

I am made of Ascendant Spirit Essence

[hushed hazel]

navystone and sea prisms

the building blocks of a healthy baby boy

[distant raft]

wait does the gamma slime just have a warhead in it

[stark pond]

counter point: navystone and sea prism are the deposit of their remains

[dusk bronze]

the miracle of life

[cunning sequoia]

as we all know, sea life is exclusively blue

there is no color in the oceans

[dusk bronze]

yes.

[hushed hazel]

camoflague to disguise themselves for predators

[dusk bronze]

it fucking nukes you if you don't kill it fast enough

[hushed hazel]

and camoflague so prey doesn't see them coming

[distant raft]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A CLOWNFISH GRRRAAAAAHHHHHH

[hushed hazel]

it checks out

[modern grove]

Terraria gorgelamity mode

[hardy gulch]

Who tf leaked this guys sprite now!

[pseudo vector]

pretty sure that sprite has been public info for a while now

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[hardy gulch]

ahhhh

[dusk bronze]

several months

[rugged goblet]

The rizzler chin

[frail owl]

is that a mammoth i'm seeing at the bottom right?

[modern grove]

That's the boss form

Mammothling is a boss minion

[frail tapir]

NUCLEAR TER- NAH ITS AWESOME

[frail tapir]

ma man look like helicoprion but skinless

[fringe quiver]

novemb

[rugged goblet]

No!!!!! Corrupted Pigy :<

With a…poo?

[fringe quiver]

That's a sulphurous pigron

its a wip

don't got wings yet

and thats triangle

[valid crypt]

The triangle is triangle i think

[fringe quiver]

yep its triangle

the triangle here is triangle

[rugged goblet]

Like the fumes?

Ah.

Triangle.

[valid crypt]

The artist

[fringe quiver]

triangle you should probably recolor your dev transformation to not be brown

people seem to have a tendency to think its a cartoon poop

[vivid hemlock]

remember that ice variant for triangle

[fringe quiver]

frozen triangle

subspecies

[valid crypt]

Whar

[agile latch]

He is black..

Well with the proper animations and limbs i think it wont have this curse?

[halcyon seal]

Disgusting creature deserves its fate

[vivid hemlock]

i remember this guy... #calamity-update-talk message hes been scrapped but what was he supposed to be for

[agile latch]

Ancient sprite for the hydra in bassalt

[valid crypt]

Obsidian scourge

[agile latch]

Bassalt hydra is pt2 so

Not need to be real for now

[vivid hemlock]

i cee

[prisma cipher]

Will it become a crab

[rugged goblet]

It was born pig…
Do you think God is cruel enough to birth creatures whose sole fate is endless torture 🥺

[agile latch]

It do be one of my fav creature concept though

[late eagle]

I need a triangle pet in 3

[prisma cipher]

All sso enemies are actually crabs

That’s why it’s so delayed

[agile latch]

There is 2 crabs in sunken sea

[prisma cipher]

Cuz you have to make two sprite for every mob

[halcyon seal]

Look at the hog

[rugged goblet]

I saw

Funny looking fella

I think he likes his life

[fringe quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1328049447904481333/1398840796022833302/airstrikes.gif

[valid crypt]

Ha

[prisma cipher]

Why bomb Nebbie

[vivid hemlock]

the great terrarian war

[valid crypt]

Goddess of chains ate shrimp

[prisma cipher]

Fucked up

[fringe quiver]

i was about to ask whos the second because for some reason scavengers didnt count as sunken sea creatures in my head

calamity crab economy is booming

[prisma cipher]

Not booming enough

[fringe quiver]

slab crab, flak crab, crabulon, crabyceps, crabucaneer, hermititan, scavenger, historian

[prisma cipher]

Crablamitas tomorrow

[fringe quiver]

am i missing any

are there more crabs

clad crab

that one

if anyone says "aureus" no youre wrong go into the eel pit

not what it is

[prisma cipher]

Crabreus

[valid crypt]

What is it the

[fringe quiver]

a horrible thing

serious answer a robot

[vivid hemlock]

aureus is a -----

[fringe quiver]

but personally im saying its a horrible thing because his design does not convey it being a robot very much

[valid crypt]

CRAB

[fringe quiver]

atleast not anymore than literally every other astral enemy

[valid crypt]

CRAB

[fringe quiver]

it does not look like a crab in the slightest its just like yharim and bees

the masses

[valid crypt]

MECHANICAL CRABULON

[fringe quiver]

i will turn you into a astral enemy melon gun

you will be a vaguely robotic looking purple and gray blob

[valid crypt]

My pfp is already a vague ourple blob 😨

[fringe quiver]

its a girl blob

[agile latch]

He is

Mecha crabulon

[fringe quiver]

you will be turned into a vaguely robotic looking purple and gray blob

[fringe quiver]

betrayal

[valid crypt]

Treu

[agile latch]

It literally is..

Same ai base

[fringe quiver]

well if we're talking ai this shit mourning wood

🥀

[valid crypt]

Boss ai is not boss design

[agile latch]

Creature that looks surprisingly like a crab

And is also infected

But is now a mech

On hardmode

Mecha crabulon

[fringe quiver]

it dosen't look like a crab.... it dosent look like ANYTHING i hate you aureus

cheese aureus design rant copypasta

[vivid hemlock]

cheese anything rant copypasta

[fringe quiver]

im the only person who hates aureus but not because of its fight because i feel complete indifference towards its fight

[valid crypt]

Cheese rant copypasta

[fringe quiver]

but rather i hate aureus because its the design i like the least in the game something about it just pisses me off specifically

like polterghast (current) is probably worse objectively

but aureus is still a mess

[fringe quiver]

and calclone also

[valid crypt]

Blue plantera

[fringe quiver]

behold my rock eyeball

behold perry the platypus my rockeyeballinator

[valid crypt]

Rock blue plantera cs rock red eoc

[fringe quiver]

we love rock bosses

we love rock bosses

more rock golems! moreee

[vivid hemlock]

i hold a grudge against the sandstone spike mandible worm

[fringe quiver]

i have mild attachment to the previous DS sprite

the one before the evil bird one

[valid crypt]

You at me or triangle

[agile latch]

Aureus fight my behated

[fringe quiver]

not because i think its that great of a design i just think it's funny

go my cucumber

[agile latch]

Barrel worm ds is p neat

[valid crypt]

Go cucumber

[vivid hemlock]

dried sea cucumber

[fringe quiver]

its pretty lame but compared to some other bosses designed by the horse its not as egregious i think

brain....

skeletron prime

perforators is also. comical

[valid crypt]

Hores??

[fringe quiver]

has 2 attacks

summons 3 worms

[vivid hemlock]

🐴

[fringe quiver]

you can entirely ignore these worms

[fathom girder]

dies

[fringe quiver]

like you dont even need to kill them

also the worms have nothing going on whatsoever besides just being worms

like they dont even fire projectiles or like Anything theyre just giant worms but big

[vivid hemlock]

mini eow

[fringe quiver]

the only way to make the worms like remotely interesting is by actively self-imposing a rule onto yourself of like

[valid crypt]

Gaygaygaygaygaygaygay

[agile latch]

The horse..

[fringe quiver]

keeping all the worms alive

until theres all 3 of them

[agile latch]

It dont even have gores

The day i noticed cnidrion has 0 gore

[fringe quiver]

and then killing them

[agile latch]

Just turn into dust

[fringe quiver]

and only after that killing the hive

[vivid hemlock]

fishron bubbles

[fringe quiver]

and thats only like mildly interesting because 3 worms are alot of worms to keep track of

and its a self imposed challenge because really you can just

kill the hive

[fathom girder]

the worms should enrage after the main hive dies

[fringe quiver]

no the worms just disappear

theyre gone

[fathom girder]

I know

[fringe quiver]

you kill the hive you win

[fathom girder]

that's dumb

[fringe quiver]

the worms when enraged also wouldnt even be interesting lets be real

they are now faster

and fire ichor blob projectiles

heartwarming

[fathom girder]

I was thinkin' like

they would become an actual boss idk

[vivid hemlock]

we will have a hydra one day instead of a crimson eow hive 🙏

[fathom girder]

something interesting

[fringe quiver]

thank god for evil2 redesign

[valid crypt]

God of war bossfight

[fringe quiver]

to make perfs interesting you just cant do it with the hive and the worms tbh

[fathom girder]

I forget about that

[fringe quiver]

like its just a conceptually uninteresting base

[valid crypt]

How strong was dogma if its essence makes post ml biss

[fringe quiver]

its designed to be boring

[fringe quiver]

the humble idk how many other gods amalgamated ontop of it:

i dont think evil2 being post ml is indicative of either dogma or war's strenght necessarily

it could be

but i dont think its necessarily the case

i imagine dogma wasnt much of a fighter

[valid crypt]

Isnt hivemind and perfs mostly dogma and war tho

[fringe quiver]

probably on the like

[valid crypt]

That fair

[fringe quiver]

middle-late hardmode end of things

in terms of strenght

[graceful ivy]

Hi cheese

[distant raft]

i doubt that political power would be translated to strength

[fringe quiver]

hello :D

[valid crypt]

Hello Warhammer Terrarian

[fringe quiver]

meanwhile war i think

probably like post moon lord

early post ml

around providence

a bit stronger than her id say

but not by too much

[vivid hemlock]

dogma had that dog in them

[distant raft]

i dont think faith would translate to auric gods either

[vivid hemlock]

clearly

[valid crypt]

I think provi to polter/ravager ifk

[fringe quiver]

yeah i was thinking that too

around provi and polter/rav for war

and for dogma like

[valid crypt]

I dont get what this means

[fringe quiver]

pbg tier idk

maybe a bit lower

I mean slime god's tier shift theoretically makes it current calclone tier

and we can safely assume

dogma is. stronger than slime god

so i think PBG or maybe even current ravager tier seems reasonable

[valid crypt]

Isnt current rav the same tier as pbg

[fringe quiver]

more of a political power guy than a actual strenght guy

[fringe quiver]

bit later i think idk

i forgo

[valid crypt]

Post golem pre lunatic

[fringe quiver]

dogma is like a mob boss and war is the mob's executioner

you do something that dosen't sit right with dogma and war shows up at your house and puts you in The Device

[valid crypt]

War is a goon

[fringe quiver]

hey dogma, whats da plan? - war god

i also cant like

unpicture war god in my head

as literally just sundowner

[distant raft]

dogma works out at the library

[fringe quiver]

in terms of mannerisms and just general personality

[valid crypt]

Insert that 9/11 quote i forgor

[fringe quiver]

like the good old times right after 9/11!

thats what he says

All i'm saying, Yharim... is give War a chance!

and turns out he did

oh boy did he

[valid crypt]

Yharim made war his life

[vivid hemlock]

you are what you eat

[valid crypt]

Yharim ate god of war??

[vivid hemlock]

except uhh he didnt eat dogma nor war

[agile latch]

he wasnt a fighter but his power was p broken

powerscaling..

[fringe quiver]

im still wondering which dragon did bro even get his domain from

[agile latch]

faith

[fringe quiver]

ah

[valid crypt]

Wait thats public

[fringe quiver]

i was gonna say "did bro consume the auric soul of religion"

[graceful ivy]

I love powerscaling...

[fringe quiver]

and i mean

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/war-of-the-worlds-ice-cube-will-radford-ice-2025-gif-9854522447900828585

[fringe quiver]

honestly

close enough yeah

[hushed hazel]

that checks

[agile latch]

which in my concept (already discussed in dev..)

was the last auric dragon to get a soul

and sort of a gift to humanity, as a symbol of humanity faith on the auric dragons

[cunning sequoia]

0 days since triangle leaking dev stuff perhaps

[spark kiln]

what is dogma

[valid crypt]

God that tried to groom yharim into doing godking plot

[agile latch]

john god king, leader of the god council that tried to make yharim the god king

[fringe quiver]

god of dogma

guy who makes everything that goes wrong go wrong

😊

[agile latch]

he is like god yharon

in terms of evilness

[fringe quiver]

thats pretty evil

[earnest jewel]

Were you meant to say that?

[fringe quiver]

i dont think theres anything wrong with saying that

unsurprisingly

god of dogma is really evil

😭

[agile latch]

sorta

he isnt comically evil, and there is some sides to it..

[cunning sequoia]

just knowing he's part of the corruption is enough tbh

[agile latch]

by the yharon thing, its mostly that godma would do anything for humanity, no matter the cost

[fringe quiver]

most calamity characters that are evil are nuanced in some way but are still really evil

[agile latch]

if he has to kill all the dragons, make someone into p much a tool, in order for humanity to progress, he will

[fringe quiver]

i cant think of many exceptions

theres like

devourer

hes just evil so far maybe theres more to him

but as far as we know hes just a dick

like hes just an asshole

[agile latch]

providence is more evil than godma i think

[fringe quiver]

yeah providence is just the most evil mfer in history

[agile latch]

if her essence was left to rot, she would make corruption 3

[fringe quiver]

even then she still has some nuance to her characterization beyond just being evil

[valid crypt]

Corruption cubed

[fringe quiver]

calamity does a p good job at having

characters who are just straight up evil while not being one dimensional

[agile latch]

is there a comically evil cal character now thinking?

devourer is the only one that come to mind

[fringe quiver]

devourer i guess

[valid crypt]

Yeah devourer

[halcyon seal]

What’s the deal with provi again

[earnest jewel]

Hates everything.

[fringe quiver]

i sorta picture dragon of flame (zaelithar if that's gonna be his actual name) as also being kind of just an asshole but idk

[earnest jewel]

Except her guardians.

[fringe quiver]

we dunno much about that guy

other than hes evil

[fringe quiver]

she thinks life is the source of suffering in of itself so she wants to kill everyone to end suffering

[agile latch]

i think yharon might be more nefarious than him.. or maybe not

[fringe quiver]

shes pretty evil!

[valid crypt]

Nihilism supreme or something

[agile latch]

dragon of flames is as you said, problably an asshole, but i dont think he would

do a genocide

[halcyon seal]

Yeah that’s not very cool I’m gonna be real

[agile latch]

(like a certain bird dragon)

[fringe quiver]

dragon of flames is evil but its harder to be

more evil than mr genocides

or well

one of the

ONE of the mr genocides

2 mr genocides and 1 ms genocides

yharim, yharon, providence

there are alot of genicdal people in terraria

[agile latch]

the most benign cal boss is problably

surprinsingly god of sacrifices? (ravager)

[fringe quiver]

astrum deus i think

well

ravager if it was god of sacrifices yeah

but in his current state prob not

[valid crypt]

Triangle is this concept happening or is it still ideas

[halcyon seal]

Has crab done anything fucked up

[fringe quiver]

god of sacrifices was just straight up a good guy

[fringe quiver]

not really but its just like

a fungus

[agile latch]

happening but it isnt really a thing that

[fringe quiver]

its not evil or good

its just

[agile latch]

will be real ingame

[fringe quiver]

a creature

[agile latch]

just fun fact

lore ™

its like frost dragon and pigron connection, its a

[fringe quiver]

astrum deus kind of actively

helps out

[agile latch]

why not

[fringe quiver]

and it only attacks you bc infected

[agile latch]

if you count the fungus as the crab yea

[fringe quiver]

and then you free it from the infection after

[agile latch]

with the new plans

crabulon and crabucaneers also have been killing and stealing from adventurers/ wannabe heros for a while

to get his treasury

[fringe quiver]

so i think deus counts as like probably the Nicest boss because not only is it objectively not evil (animal like being, not rly capable of evil imo) but you don't kill it, it leaves you alone after the fight, and its actively beneficial to the world

[fringe quiver]

the fungus is sapient....

[agile latch]

it is

or well..

[valid crypt]

The truffle exists

[agile latch]

the ideia is that the fungus fused itself with the scavengers innate obsession with shiny stuff

[fringe quiver]

mind control sapient fungus

[agile latch]

when it took over their bodies and minds

[fringe quiver]

in that case crabulon can be classified as a meanie i think

[halcyon seal]

Deus was like uhhh, guy who’s supposed to stop the astral infection but he got infected because he sucked at his job

Right

[fringe quiver]

yeah basically

then you give him a shower and he goes back to doing his thing

[agile latch]

noxus is..

depend on perspective?

[fringe quiver]

i love eating divine essence

so tasty yum

[halcyon seal]

Tbf that shit prob tastes INSANE

[agile latch]

now thinking

[valid crypt]

Well yeah its likely a juvenile

[agile latch]

calamitas is very close to most evil.. in the evilness scale

[tribal isle]

would the terminus be tasty

[fringe quiver]

most cal bosses can fall under either being evil meanies or just being Creatures

[agile latch]

most cal bosses are grey

[fringe quiver]

is she

i mean

[earnest jewel]

I thought Crabulon was blue.

[valid crypt]

Cheese is evil

Warhammer terrarian the fucj

[fringe quiver]

-providence
-profaned guardians
-devourer
-hive mind
-perforators
-yharim
-yharon
-lunatic cultist
-moon lord

[agile latch]

crab, lizard, twice war crime commiter, infected reacon robot, infected suffering space thing, eternally suffering benign god of sacrifices

[fringe quiver]

all of these are just actually straight up evil

[tribal isle]

what about primordial wyrm hes chill

[halcyon seal]

Or some mysterious third thing (aureus?)

[agile latch]

primordial wyrm is doing its job..

he is a good guy ye

[tribal isle]

it has a job?

[agile latch]

protecting the terminus

[halcyon seal]

Wtf even is the terminus anyways

[tribal isle]

why doesnt he just eat it so no one gets it

[agile latch]

thingamabob

[valid crypt]

Doesnt do that but stabs me if i teleport the fuck jared

[halcyon seal]

Why is it at the bottom of the abyss

[agile latch]

its a thingamajimbo

[earnest jewel]

Xeroc's magic rock.

[halcyon seal]

Why does jared suck at his job

[agile latch]

he wont suck anymore in the future..

[halcyon seal]

Like you can just Not Teleport and he doesn’t know you’re there

[earnest jewel]

To keep it out of the hands of the bad guys.

[agile latch]

so you dont get xeroc 2 (but this time its someone evil)

[fringe quiver]

i dont really consider ravager as benign because while god of sacrifices is, ravager itself is just going around on a rampage
killing it is more of a mercy kill atp

[valid crypt]

Seemingly something used to perfect god ascend

[earnest jewel]

It's hard to work when you have no hands.

[agile latch]

it is mercy kill ye

[valid crypt]

Ravager is a zombie with the powers of a god

[agile latch]

he is similar to shin godzilla from

[tribal isle]

what is even the purpose of the terminus if there are no auric souls left to claim after you "kill" yharon

[agile latch]

the popular movie shin godzilla

[earnest jewel]

Boss Rush.

[agile latch]

there is still yharon soul

[valid crypt]

Theres no longer one, xeroc says that no?

[agile latch]

[valid crypt]

Which is comically. Hard to use

[fringe quiver]

i mean yeah as xeroc says it himself there isnt one anymore

it served its purpose in the past

[agile latch]

the only thing the player lacks is the ascencion ritual

[earnest jewel]

Give Terminus to Calamitas, hand her Yharon's egg and tell her you know how to get her brothers back for real.

[agile latch]

which has been lost to time and also yharim went after and deleted most of the information regarding it

[valid crypt]

And any other requirements for perfect ascension

[agile latch]

the requirements are terminus, ritual and a soul

[tribal isle]

would slime god not share the ritual if you politely asked

[agile latch]

no..

[fringe quiver]

slime god an asshole vro

[agile latch]

he cares about balance

[fringe quiver]

stop jumping me dude

[agile latch]

only guys you could get it from are likely

the evils 2

[fringe quiver]

we can talk it out

[valid crypt]

Yharon did a lot of that

[agile latch]

but they will be censored by the goverment or might not remember it

[valid crypt]

Consent theory found dead

[tribal isle]

what if you tried politely asking xeroc

[fringe quiver]

whar

[valid crypt]

Killed gods breaking it

[vivid hemlock]

what

[agile latch]

he would not give you it

[valid crypt]

Worded bad

I dont words

[fringe quiver]

i dont think

[kind tinsel]

the terminus got its power by horribly injuring vaema

[fringe quiver]

that has anything to do with balance melon gun

i think thats just because hes racist

[agile latch]

but yea the only guys that could possibly tell the player are evil 2 (but they wont be able to for reasons ™, future stuff ™ )

[tribal isle]

😔

[earnest jewel]

Ask Silva, duh.

[valid crypt]

Im saying perma nuking yharon would help balance because yharon stops burning shit on mass

[fringe quiver]

i dont think dude would want

the last dragon, and one who was his friend in the past, to get his soul absorbed

specially when he probably

i imagine

[agile latch]

he problably wouldnt stop the player tho

[fringe quiver]

feels guilt about having probably unwillingly caused the dragon's extinction to happen

yeah i dont think he would stop the player

but i dont think he'd tell em how to either

[agile latch]

yea

[valid crypt]

If i grab a big enough stick could i kill yharon permanently by reducing the soul into a fine powder

[cunning sequoia]

can they even. speak

[agile latch]

one of the ideias discussed in dev some time ago, is that after the fight with xeroc you would be able to talk with him. and if you follow a sort of evils 2 questline, you would be able to tell him you are going after the ritual, and plan to become the god king (bike shedding max rn)

[fringe quiver]

incoherent gurgling

[agile latch]

they can on phase 2

[cunning sequoia]

o

[agile latch]

but it will be zumbled

[fringe quiver]

yep

[pulsar cobalt]

they try to brain blast you information

[fringe quiver]

incoherent gurgling

[agile latch]

not incoherent gurgling

more so just kinda

dementia

[fringe quiver]

hrello,m i am ,n. war s,mfdg Gd

[pulsar cobalt]

smfdg now canon

[halcyon seal]

Hive Mind do I really need all this oil for the ritual

[agile latch]

i do want the evils 2 being the biggest god propaganda in the mod

[cunning sequoia]

"now that you have bested me i will tell you whatever you want to know mortal"
"how do i become a god"
"i forgor 💀"

[agile latch]

(and also allow the player to talk or side with them sort of if so desired, minimal impacts on gameplay though, just a fun lore thing)

[kind tinsel]

im smoking that auric soul of rebirth, the shit that uhm

[fringe quiver]

imagine having the option to side with a god and you chose the literal evil murder ones

[agile latch]

one of the ideias is DoG censoring them

[fringe quiver]

dude go for otonilou or silva or agnus or someone

[halcyon seal]

Having something that kinda resembles MoR alignment would be so cool

[agile latch]

but i also tought of some other concepts..

[cunning sequoia]

distortion shadow government 🔥

[kind tinsel]

dog lobotomy

[halcyon seal]

And also make me actually want to look into the story

[fringe quiver]

silva's still alive go parlay with her

[earnest jewel]

Add option to murder Calamitas.
Then we can kill anyone who does that.

[cunning sequoia]

not beating the evil terrarian allegations.... tsk tsk tsk

[agile latch]

i mean if you are a human, dogma isnt really evil

he did epically fail though, and went to far

[halcyon seal]

Like before a couple months ago I just kinda knew the lore based off of scal dialogue and that’s it

[kind tinsel]

dogma balls

[valid crypt]

Dogma is still evil just
Not
Targetting you with racism

[agile latch]

(spending times on hive mind hell torture made him rethink possibly..)

[fringe quiver]

yeah

[earnest jewel]

Horribly outdated, I can see how that could be confusing.

[fringe quiver]

i dont think being the group that benefits of one evil makes them not evil

[agile latch]

i mean, some people side with yharim

[earnest jewel]

Not the worst example, you could be using Stained, Brutal Calamity's lyrics for reference.

[agile latch]

siding with yharim is as bad as siding with dogma

[kind tinsel]

this dogma is kinda overshadowed by the far superior dogma, the one from whats it called

[fringe quiver]

itd be like saying yharim isnt evil if youre his supporter

[agile latch]

isaac..

[kind tinsel]

yes

[cunning sequoia]

tbf isaac dogma is like, peak character design

hard to top that

[agile latch]

although i think dogma might be better than yharim.. you dont have like 2 entire cities nuked by him

[fringe quiver]

my name is dogma i made the imperfect ascencion ritual

[halcyon seal]

Tbf even if it’s not lore accurate those lyrics do go CRAZY

[valid crypt]

Doesnt mean yharim isnt evil

[agile latch]

he is

[fringe quiver]

provided that dogma wouldnt go on a worldwide genocide campaign

yeah

[halcyon seal]

Yharim can’t be evil, he’s a friend of the bees

[fringe quiver]

a bit hard to be more evil than that ...

[tribal isle]

if you get swallowed whole by dog do you automatically tp to the distortion

[halcyon seal]

When was the last time a bad person liked bees

[kind tinsel]

who up livin in the light rn

[kind tinsel]

me

[cunning sequoia]

okay but have you considered

gods = bad?

checkmate liberal

[fringe quiver]

its just kinda comical like you have so many options of gods to side with and out of all of them you HAD to pick the literal evil biome hell devilish gods

[agile latch]

dragons = bad smh

[fringe quiver]

really man. come on now. terrarian you

[kind tinsel]

it kinda proves a point though

[agile latch]

which gods do you have tho

[fringe quiver]

the You who does this is a real nasty Terrarian

[agile latch]

slime god? providence?

[fringe quiver]

silva

[agile latch]

that are still alive

[fringe quiver]

xeroc

[kind tinsel]

SILVA IS LIKE

[cunning sequoia]

siding with providence is dying

[agile latch]

silva is not real..

[cunning sequoia]

how would you even side with silva

[fringe quiver]

siding with providence is literally dying yeah

[valid crypt]

Silva

[kind tinsel]

food coma

[pseudo vector]

silva’s been dead for ages

[cunning sequoia]

she blesses you to take her abyss shit

that's close enough

[fringe quiver]

she's dead but she's not really dead

[earnest jewel]

I mean you can side with Providence if you like not having free will.

[agile latch]

you dont need to be evil tho

you can become a good god king..

[valid crypt]

Silva isnt truly dead and can come back

[kind tinsel]

she's semi mentally dead for the next yonks

[earnest jewel]

Good and King are opposites, let's be real.

[cunning sequoia]

king knight slander

[fringe quiver]

king minos slander

dont diss goat

[vivid hemlock]

okay liberal

[valid crypt]

Post yharim silva comes back

[kind tinsel]

is she like the princess peach of calamity

[earnest jewel]

No that's Princess.

[valid crypt]

Idk the mario lore

[kind tinsel]

'lore'

[earnest jewel]

Mario is obviously canon to Terraria, it's all there.

[kind tinsel]

SMBX theory is real probably

[halcyon seal]

Hey guys, just felt like checking in. We’ve found concrete lore for the terrarian. They’re actually yharim’s reincarnation after he failed to contain Providence inside the vessels

[tribal isle]

what if i side with noxus hes chill hes a great guy honestly

[earnest jewel]

Real.

[cunning sequoia]

holy shit

call matpat

[valid crypt]

What the fuck

[cunning sequoia]

he was RIGHT

[earnest jewel]

Noxus owes me $14.

[valid crypt]

But

Terrarian

Is

You

[kind tinsel]

the terrarian... isn't you

[vivid hemlock]

the mushroom kingdom is in terraria

[fringe quiver]

i think gods like otonilou and agnus would probably do a better job at painting the existence of gods in a good light than evil2 but evil2 would probably Try Harder to convince you which

[kind tinsel]

they're like mega dead

[fringe quiver]

makes enough sense

[kind tinsel]

also its wayy more metal with the evil 2 lads

[earnest jewel]

Otonilou is currently fried jellyfish so I don't think she can do much convincing.

[fringe quiver]

yeah but i mean

her

existence

[cunning sequoia]

yeah the problem is that otonilou is fish n chips and agnus is currently hulking out

[fringe quiver]

im not talking about them like. talking to you.

[agile latch]

by god side i mean the god council specifically, the entire god king stuff

not just becoming a god ™

[pseudo vector]

perhaps this could move to #lore-discussion at this point lol

[kind tinsel]

god blunt rotation

[agile latch]

trully

[halcyon seal]

Hey speaking of creatures that gods don’t like there’s that hog

[fringe quiver]

yeah post that hog

[kind tinsel]

yo pass the auric blunt

[vivid hemlock]

hog is the child of dogma

[valid crypt]

Horrible hog god

[agile latch]

divine swine

[fringe quiver]

someone post the horrible hog

[kind tinsel]

lustrous

[fringe quiver]

someone do it

[agile latch]

godly creatures blessed by the god of dogma

or something

lore

idk

[fringe quiver]

divine swine is actually just God

[agile latch]

need to make it so when you kill a piggy, they dont drop gore

[fringe quiver]

like just capital g God

[cunning sequoia]

beautiful boar

[agile latch]

they just disapear in a smoke of starry particles

[fringe quiver]

divine swine made the universe

[agile latch]

and holy sounds

[fringe quiver]

horrible hog is satan

[agile latch]

(they never die, they return to their higher plane)

[fringe quiver]

most evil being in the entire universe

[agile latch]

horrible hogs are fallen angels..

[fringe quiver]

worse than providence, yharim and devourer combined

[kind tinsel]

angle

[agile latch]

just like satan they lost their wings and fell on

earth

and do evil stuff

[cunning sequoia]

my child will be a vegetarian and respect the lives of animals

[kind tinsel]

type shit

[agile latch]

he should drop an evil apple

[cunning sequoia]

🥓

[fathom girder]

well duh

[fringe quiver]

disgusting meat

[fathom girder]

the only dragons in the game attack us

[halcyon seal]

All I’m saying those wings on divine swine look Suspiciously similar to seraph tracer wings

[kind tinsel]

they finally become kosher

[vivid hemlock]

uhmm

[fringe quiver]

horrible hog should drop zenith on gfb for no reason

[agile latch]

this user knows too much

[vivid hemlock]

no...

[halcyon seal]

Two of them we did fish up

[agile latch]

i do wonder what will be divine swine bestiary

should be ominous and misterious..

[valid crypt]

DIVINE SWINE IS A YHARON OFFSHOOT

[fathom girder]

yeah but like why tf

[fringe quiver]

He loves you as he loves all of his children.

Nothing else

[kind tinsel]

you've gotta make it vaema level writing

[fathom girder]

I'm just having fun it's not my fault they wanted my bait

[kind tinsel]

its the only way

[fringe quiver]

and then Horrible Hog has his name highligted in Red specifically in the bestiary

and its just

His name is red because he wants to kill you

[kind tinsel]

its gotta be a bible excerpt smh

[pseudo vector]

who is this vaema i keep hearing about bro lol

[kind tinsel]

something something lake of sulfur something something

[fathom girder]

who the hell is vaema

[valid crypt]

Incattus horrors

[vivid hemlock]

do not listen to the voices

[lapis oak]

random ass

[kind tinsel]

I HAVE A VIDEO

wait its in gif form

[cunning sequoia]

you opened the flood gates

[kind tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1426697402945114134/1426697500575924297/eljehtori.gif

[cunning sequoia]

actually keep going so we can silence incattus forever

😊

[vivid hemlock]

[fathom girder]

I'm down to turn incattus into the next kiri

[kind tinsel]

ok but this gif is peak

shoutout to zoe and co fr

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna remove all your protons

[fringe quiver]

atleast kiri hate is just for the bit and kiris mostly fine as a user

[fathom girder]

well

WELL

too bad

[tribal isle]

does devil from the bible exist if demons look like the typical depiction of demons

[earnest jewel]

Lore question.

[fathom girder]

go to lore then...

[kind tinsel]

whats the implication here...

[lapis oak]

what you even mean mostly fine?

[fringe quiver]

i just mean youre like fine

[agile latch]

trully

[fringe quiver]

i dont have any reason to dislike you youre just a chill user

[valid crypt]

You go into the industrial oven

[tribal isle]

why specifically the industrial one

[kind tinsel]

anti-gremlin sentiment goes crazy

[cunning sequoia]

you should probably tone down bringing up vaema constantly

[lapis oak]

perfectly fine

[tribal isle]

who?