calamity-update-talk

[fringe quiver]

Disagree heavily

[vivid hemlock]

yeah no

[jaunty egret]

Not saying she should, but it's the only way her being that early would feel climatic imo

[fringe quiver]

Queen Slime not only is a far less serious boss in tone compared to Slime God which makes it already underwhelming as a "rematch" but having

a vanilla boss be the "rematch" to a modded boss

[jaunty egret]

Which why I prefer her being later tbh

[fringe quiver]

is frankly, just

dumb

[dusk bronze]

how about just
make the tone better

[fringe quiver]

Okay maybe that's a rude way to put it

[dusk bronze]

fix the bossfight
problem solved

[fathom girder]

Queen slime is slime god is the same thing as saying sans is ness

it just

isn't

true

[tropic jolt]

I don't feel like slime god is serious either

it needs a full redesign

[fringe quiver]

Slime God dosen't actively try to be a joke boss

[valid crypt]

Except it is canon rn

[fringe quiver]

Queen Slime does

Is the point

[vivid hemlock]

yeah yeah go rework a vanilla boss because of the lore

[fringe quiver]

Also yeah waht vanillin said

Your solution is literally

"Rework a entire vanilla boss just so we can keep this 1 bit of lore that most people including the writers dont like"

[dusk bronze]

they're reworking vanilla bosses already

[fringe quiver]

..They're not.

[fathom girder]

not because of shitty lore

[earnest jewel]

Not to be conceptually different.

[fringe quiver]

They're simply adding content to them in higher difficulties

[fathom girder]

:D

[fringe quiver]

That is not what Queen Slime would need to work from a fundamental standpoint as a Slime God rematch

And once again

[vivid hemlock]

the vanilla boss "reworks" are only gonna be in cal specific difficulties i believe

[fringe quiver]

Missing the point

[dusk bronze]

i never said change the concept??? 😭

[dull heart]

This tier swap I actually think would be peak

[fringe quiver]

It is fundamentally underwhelming

To have a vanilla fight

as a rematch to a modded boss

[dry whale]

hi

[earnest jewel]

Hello.

[jaunty egret]

I think the current Queen Slime - Slime God lore thing is cool but I don't really think that its replacement in the theoretical tier swap is really much worse in any way that matters

[vivid hemlock]

hey maxie

[pulsar cobalt]

hi maxie

[dull heart]

my reasoning is that

[tropic jolt]

[fringe quiver]

that is something inherent to the design chocie you cannot change no matter how good of a fight you make queen slime

[dry whale]

haii

what is the convo

[dull heart]

Statigel would make a good mobility armor instead of reaver Mobility

[valid crypt]

Queen slime does not fit the vibes and it would take big changes and a different direction of the fight to fit the vibes

[tropic jolt]

slimes

[dull heart]

and clone would be a banger boss with pre wing movement

[pulsar cobalt]

real

[dull heart]

or prehardmode movement

[vivid hemlock]

see doze gets it

[fathom girder]

Slime GOD is dumb as a prehm boss imo

because it's a god

why are we fighting a god in prehm bru

[dusk bronze]

it's a weak god

[valid crypt]

Bad argument

[dull heart]

lore and music can whatever

[dusk bronze]

it better shows how gods vary wildly in power

[dull heart]

it'll be more fun like that

[pulsar cobalt]

itd still be a weak god at at pre golem level

[valid crypt]

Gods in calamity vary a fuck ton

[dry whale]

I mean we do fight the thing that literally keeps god souls

[dusk bronze]

it'll be less effective

[fathom girder]

...yeah...

fuck you got me there

[earnest jewel]

God corpses.

Not souls.

[dry whale]

in pre hm

[tropic jolt]

I wouldn't really say theres any strong gods in calamity 😭

[dry whale]

I mean wof

[dusk bronze]

???

[earnest jewel]

Xeroc:

[valid crypt]

With how 1 dev sees it
Closer to a bit below average for pre plantera post mech iirc

[earnest jewel]

That is made of corpses.

Not souls.

[valid crypt]

Ofcourse not absolute

[dry whale]

I'm pretty sure it does have souls inside of it

[valid crypt]

Basically wherever you interpret how strong a eidolon wyrm is

[earnest jewel]

Souls exploded.

[dry whale]

how does the hallow generate if not

[jaunty egret]

I'm not against the tier swap really I just think the reasoning is sorta weak in CalClone's side

[dusk bronze]

essence

[earnest jewel]

God corpses.

[dry whale]

...

[tropic jolt]

potential gods

[dry whale]

yeah actually that makes sense

[valid crypt]

God souls broke into essence and that essence is hallowed and the other biomes

[jaunty egret]

Potential man

[tropic jolt]

behold my godly power I will do nothing

[dry whale]

god slime be like "dude. you killed slimes. not cool"

[vivid hemlock]

thats because people have been only talking about the sg side so far

[dusk bronze]

haguri's reasoning is "you meet permafrost after calclone and he tells you about the actual calamitas"
but
just
only have him open up about her after calclone (if stays in hardmode)
i told her this multiple times and she completely ignored me

[fringe quiver]

Queen Slime conceptually is a underwhelming successor to Slime God.
Because, for one, as i said. Having a vanilla boss be the rematch/followup to a modded boss is incredibly underwhelming. Imagine being a new player, expecting a cool rematch with Slime God, and never getting one until you go on the discord, ask around, and learn that it was the Queen Slime fight.
Secondly, tone. Queen Slime was inherently designed to be a goofy boss. It's a giant pink slime that has a fart death sound effect and whose attacks involve shooting Party Girl Bath Water balloons at the player.

These are things you cannot change no matter how much you make Queen Slime a good fight (Which it notably is a pretty shitty fight in vanilla), and that is not to add onto the fact reworking a entire boss fight to be better just to fit a lore change most aren't content with is far more work than necessary.

[dusk bronze]

"things you cannot change" they already removed the fart sound bruh

[earnest jewel]

The solution clearly is to give Slime God a gun.

[fringe quiver]

Slime God being Queen Slime is fundamentally a bad design choice that is only passable as a bandaid fix imo

[jaunty egret]

It's not the Most important thing in the world, but I feel like if you're gonna put the name sake of the mod (or at least a version of them) early, then there should be a big progression bottle neck around them, similar to how much of a progression Bottle neck the Wall is

[dry whale]

true

[fringe quiver]

Please read my full comment and what its trying to convey over singling out a single part of it

[earnest jewel]

Clone is currently an optional boss.

[vivid hemlock]

this sounds extremely oversimplified

[dry whale]

guys queen slime sucks

[dusk bronze]

in what way

[dry whale]

like really sucks

she shouldn't be a god's rematch

[jaunty egret]

I'll be honest, I forgot this

[dusk bronze]

it would work if the fight was good
which they can do in rev and death

[brave star]

I agree

[fringe quiver]

It

...Once again

[dry whale]

classic mode:

[brave star]

Slime god should be in hardmode

[earnest jewel]

And realistically would be so even if they changed it in progression.

[fringe quiver]

Did you actually read what i said?

Much in the same way that you say haguri ignored what you said

[dusk bronze]

nobody plays classic bruh

[fringe quiver]

You Entirely Ignored My Point

[tropic jolt]

imagine having your most powerful form be a giant water balloon

[fringe quiver]

Jesus, man.

[brave star]

I did

[pulsar cobalt]

people do indeed play classic mode

[prisma cipher]

Yes they do

[pulsar cobalt]

whether you like it or not

[valid crypt]

The vanilla difficulties are meant to not be a jarring difference to the cal difficulties afaik

[vivid hemlock]

untrue

[valid crypt]

I played classic the first time i played cal

[dusk bronze]

yeah all 4 of them

[fringe quiver]

It's not worth debating with someone who won't even bother to listen and instead is going to stubbornly repeat the same things over and over

I'm gonna head out

[uneven gate]

hello everyone whats the argument

[jaunty egret]

Honestly I feel like I'm getting sold on this Tier swap

[tropic jolt]

slimes

[dull heart]

clone will be a more fun prehardmode boss so that's why I want it changed

[uneven gate]

I love slimes!

[jaunty egret]

Whatever this argument was has genuinely changed my opinion on the topic, congrats Clam Discord

[prisma cipher]

I like to throw slimes at people and then burn the slime cuz it’s flammable

[valid crypt]

Its the easiest difficulty to get into mods outside of like journey mode
And thats not counting the younger or less skilled where classic is the only mode they don’t have to sweat at
People do play it there are reasons

[dull heart]

and Statigel movement armor sounds just too peak

[uneven gate]

I love farming slimes for slime

[jaunty egret]

A win for good discussion

[dusk bronze]

all of this can be changed and made better
the game can better convey to the player that qs is slime god
the game can change the fight in the intended difficulty to be more serious

[uneven gate]

I think i played revengance first cuz everyone kept saying it was the intended difficulty

[dull heart]

speaking of retiers once I tried re-tiering anvil to post king slime in a mod

[dry whale]

having queen slime specifically out of all bosses be completly different from vanilla would be jarring

[dull heart]

This won't be an issue

[fringe quiver]

No, it cannot. That is not what i meant. You are once again entirely ignoring my point and repeating the same things you said before which do not relate to what i said.

[mystic eagle]

That was a bad idea, wasn't it?

[dusk bronze]

it's already completely different from every other vanilla boss (in tone)

[fringe quiver]

You cannot change the fact Queen Slime is a vanilla boss.

[dull heart]

no it wasn't

it was good

[mystic eagle]

What

[dull heart]

it made surface gear actually like

Valuable

[fringe quiver]

You cannot change the fact Queen Slime is fundamentally designed as a boss with a goofy tone unless you completely change what the boss is at a conceptual level.

[tropic jolt]

some players really dont like the idea of fighting king slime as the first boss

[dull heart]

king slime was balanced around surface level gear

so it worked

[dusk bronze]

now you're completely ignoring all my points and repeating the same things i've already debunked

[fringe quiver]

And it is not worth the effort of doing all of that just for the sake of keeping a small part of lore, that, again. Most are not satisfied with.

[dull heart]

I had to retier wand of frosting actually bc it was too op lol

[mystic eagle]

EoC's always been the first vanilla boss for me

[dusk bronze]

that is far from the only reason

[fringe quiver]

You did not "debunk" anything. You simply stated that they changed the fart sound effect.

[jaunty egret]

This is REALLY funny

[dusk bronze]

so then you didn't read this?

[dry whale]

okay

let it be

[fringe quiver]

...I did, and i explicitly talked about how that was unrelated to what i said.

"All of this can be changed and made better"

[dusk bronze]

i'm directly responding to your points

[fringe quiver]

My comment was not about it being bad to begin with.

If you are, you are doing a horrible job.

[dull heart]

It was genuinely peak

[jaunty egret]

Me omw to grab Musket and Ball o' hurt for King Slime

[dull heart]

I don't think you could get those either

[fringe quiver]

Read the very first argument. It is fundamentally about it being a vanilla boss. A vanilla boss being a "rematch" against a modded boss is not a good decision.

[mystic eagle]

What about the anvils in underground houses

[dull heart]

I think I made the tiles not bombable

[fringe quiver]

That is a core element of this entire concept that you cannot change. You cannot make Queen Slime a modded boss.

[dusk bronze]

explain why

[dull heart]

Gone

[uneven gate]

King slime vs my underground jungle loot:

[dusk bronze]

nobody said to do that

[mystic eagle]

Your ideas are, questionable to me

[dusk bronze]

but it being a vanilla boss isn't an inherent immovable obstacle

[vivid hemlock]

i do not believe the fart sound being removed means that suddenly qs can just be completely changed

[dull heart]

... The ones that need an anvil to craft?

[dull heart]

sometimes my genius is almost frightening

[mystic eagle]

KS as first boss is nightmare fuel

[dull heart]

why

[still bluff]

Doze modding cares not for your vanilla game

[dull heart]

It literally is intended as the first boss

[uneven gate]

uhm i think so, what else would you craft it on

[jaunty egret]

You can make Axe of Regrowth with a work bench

[dull heart]

the whole thing was anvil is post ks

[dull heart]

true

[jaunty egret]

20 damage ain't nothing

[dull heart]

Oh also I reworked all the Hardmode ore armors

[mystic eagle]

Imagine being forced to fight KS for the most important item for progression

[uneven gate]

oh I was just saying in general, that early bosses get murked by jungle loot

[dull heart]

The regular ores all became the same tier (post WoF), each for one class

and then the alternate ores became post twins, each for one class

[still bluff]

What if we made every boss mandatory to finish calamity

[jaunty egret]

Honestly I'd rather use an Axe or Regrowth than a Muramasa tbh

[jaunty egret]

Mandatory Deerclops

[dull heart]

muramasa is crazy strong

[dusk bronze]

true

[fringe quiver]

It is one of the reasons why i think it's only passable as a bandaid fix. Because having a vanilla boss be hyped up as the follow-up to a modded boss is conceptually disappointing because you've already fought that boss in vanilla. You are being hyped up to experience something you've already experience, so there is no reason to be excited or interested. As i said prior, it's: "Wow, slime god ran away, this means we'll get a rematch with it later!"
"Oh. It's just queen slime."

[still bluff]

Anahita now drops a crafting material used in auric cooling cell

[jaunty egret]

Where does Deerclops fit into Calamity lore?

[mystic eagle]

How about we add you ingame as a 5 hp enemy with 5 defense

[mystic eagle]

Not

[dusk bronze]

i believe there are ways to mitigate that, but you won't accept anything.

[uneven gate]

crossover content is illegal in calamity

[valid crypt]

Its a crossover content so the writers do not consider it

[dull heart]

not true

[mystic eagle]

Deerclops lore is dead

[jaunty egret]

Is there a lore reason for Deerclops being a shit boss, is she stupid?

[dull heart]

I should make a Lucy the Axe upgrade

[dusk bronze]

yes

[dull heart]

She*

[valid crypt]

There is not really any lore reason cause the devs dont lore deerclops

[jaunty egret]

Oop

[dry whale]

yes, she isn't canon

[still bluff]

100% DR tho

[dull heart]

200%

[still bluff]

True
Damage is healing

[mystic eagle]

Shows up with my weapon that ignores dr

[dull heart]

And you inflict No U

[dull heart]

No weapon does that

[jaunty egret]

Anyway fair, I doubted she was canon but making fun of Deerclops is good for the soul

[still bluff]

Also means lunic eye only drops it to 100%

It's perfect

[dull heart]

Yes

[mystic eagle]

Modding in a weapon that does that

[dry whale]

it's inmune to every non-cal weapon

[jaunty egret]

Oh wait wait wait

[fathom girder]

how did that work out

[tropic jolt]

nobody can defeat the sand

[dull heart]

Well

[jaunty egret]

Each tier of Old One's Army Boss becomes Mandatory to progress

[still bluff]

Excellent

[dull heart]

The issue was that I gave up on the mod later

[fathom girder]

...well then

lmao

[still bluff]

Golem requires a drop from Ogre to craft the old power cell

[dull heart]

Oh I also locked jungle spores post eow

They wouldn't spawn until evil 1 died

[mystic eagle]

Travelling to the past and donating 100$ to the Patreon rn

[fathom girder]

That's evil LOL

[still bluff]

Making jungle loot truly post evil1

[fathom girder]

Terraria but it's now unfun

[jaunty egret]

Peak fiction

[dull heart]

I locked Cursed Flames post Destroyer i think

lemme see

[tropic jolt]

why are you evil

stop

[jaunty egret]

The Dark Mage drops the Voodoo Doll, Guide immune to lava normally

[dull heart]

I also added new reforges to that mod

[jaunty egret]

Betsy caused the aliens

[still bluff]

EoC locks furnaces

[still bluff]

So what I'm seeing is this mod is how vanilla expects you to play the game

[fathom girder]

I locked opening dungeon chests to post WoF because the items there are kinda OP and can be crafted into really op weapons

[dull heart]

true

Keep in mind

[jaunty egret]

Mandatory Ice Queen to enter Jungle temple

[dull heart]

Every change I did here accompanied rebalancing every item

in the tier

[fathom girder]

I see why you quit working on thatmod

[still bluff]

Frost moon's already mandatory you need endothermic energy for cooling cell

[jaunty egret]

Fair, I forgot

[tropic jolt]

what if nights edge was pre boss and shot projectiles that homed onto enemies

[jaunty egret]

But BOTH TIERS

[still bluff]

TRUE

[dull heart]

This

I found this too

[jaunty egret]

Queen Slime Required for Light and Dark Souls to drop to summon the mechs

[dull heart]

@fathom girder hey look it's 5% crit

[fathom girder]

omg

[jaunty egret]

Queen slime summon locked behind doing Pre-mech Fishron

[dull heart]

This is the origin of step stool crit

this mod

[fathom girder]

oh wait actually

lmao

[dull heart]

Yep

[still bluff]

The horrors

[dull heart]

Flying carpet buff was kinda peak tho

[fathom girder]

preboss wings but like

slightly cooler

[jaunty egret]

Your Terraria playthrough has to follow everything that Yrimir did in his old boss challenge videos

[dull heart]

I FOUND THIS WHOLE MESSAGE AHA

[fathom girder]

OH MY GOD

[earnest jewel]

Mama mia.

[dull heart]

this mod was a fever dream

[jaunty egret]

Ok

[iron dew]

isnt yoyo string already pre boss..?

[fathom girder]

You know the worst part

[jaunty egret]

Let me cook

[fathom girder]

I actually like a lot of this

[still bluff]

We need calamity linear edition

[earnest jewel]

We need Calamity Reverse Order Edition.

Start against Calamitas, end with King Slime.

[dull heart]

I locked anvil post ks

[jaunty egret]

Each Lunar Pillar spawns one at a time and you have to do some dumbass side thing to spawn each of them

[still bluff]

You start with demonshade armor and have to fight your way up to KS and the ability to take off armor?

[dull heart]

I'm cooking

[still bluff]

One post golem boss locks each

[fathom girder]

master chef

[earnest jewel]

No Calamitas is just using her fists.

[jaunty egret]

You have to finish one before the requirement for the next opens

[earnest jewel]

King Slime unlocked its final form.

[jaunty egret]

And each one locks a post golem boss

[iron dew]

peculiar

[dull heart]

it was peak

I want to pick this mod back up sort of

[brave star]

What’s this

[dull heart]

but I have a new idea for a full game rebalance mod I wanna do more

[jaunty egret]

New revengance behaviour for solar pillar, forcefully gravitation potions you to fall into the worm things

[dull heart]

An old mod

[still bluff]

Fully rebalance cal according to your every whim

Reorder bosses and retier stuff

[dull heart]

my new idea for a rebalance mod would remove classes

Entirely

[jaunty egret]

Every cal fight is personalized

[fathom girder]

removing classes entirely is a strange choice

[dull heart]

I actually have a plan for a boss that changes AI based on your steam id

[fathom girder]

it would inevitably lead to classes regardless because of summons existing

[dull heart]

It's going back to the roots of terraria

[jaunty egret]

The Lorde apparition is a common personalization entity

[dull heart]

sort of

[jaunty egret]

It manifested due to someones subconcious desire for Yharim to be real

[dull heart]

But not really

it would have no classes overall

except internal ones used for things like magic quiver

[jaunty egret]

Terraria Calamity is so cool, I wish wars were real

[dull heart]

but all of those effects would be directly tied to a clear functional difference

I'd also be murdering Mana Regeneration Potion

and reworking Mana Flower

[jaunty egret]

As you should

[pulsar cobalt]

can you kill magic power and archery and summoning

[dull heart]

those would all inherently need massive changes with classes being removed

[pulsar cobalt]

how the fuck did i call archery mana regen

[dull heart]

However

I wouldn't remove them

[vivid hemlock]

god bless

a miracle in this cruel world

[jaunty egret]

Booo, remove Mage from the game or bust

[dull heart]

I will

I just said I'd remove all classes

If I ever get around to working on this mod

[jaunty egret]

Yea but every magic weapon gone

Terraria: Better Than Mages

[fathom girder]

I can't even think about how you would turn everything classless

[fathom girder]

this implies magic damage is the only reason terraria is fun or easy or interesting or actually engaging or

[dull heart]

I'd...
make everything deal classless damage

I'd also make projectile melee cost mana

like redigit intended

[fathom girder]

ahhh

clever

[dull heart]

Rest in peace Starfury

you were cool once

[fathom girder]

I'm less concerned about the weapons

and more concerned about how the armors would function

[dull heart]

probably condensed to one helmet

whichever has the coolest sprite

[fathom girder]

because all I can see is that armors would lean into specific playstyles which would inevitably be considered "classes"

[dull heart]

sure

but it won't be a direct in-game thing

summoner would be the closest to being a class but even then it would just be because some armors benefit minion based playstyles

[fathom girder]

hm

An interesting idea on paper

[jaunty egret]

Interesting thought experiment (this has long stopped being relevant to this channel)

If you had to make a "Better Than Adventure"-style fork/alt timeline mod of Terraria 1.0.6.1, (last update before they added WoF, Mechs, Wings, Hallow, & Hardmode) and are not allowed to add anything that actual terraria did since then, what sorta things would you include and focus on?

[fathom girder]

Like, what if I had to make a terraria mod but without the idea of world phases or unlocked biomes or anything like that?

[jaunty egret]

Yea and you're started at version 1.0.6.1

My first thought is like, focus on making the world taller, so there is stuff below hell you have to get to, and there is stuff above the sky in space

[arctic cliff]

add volcanoes

[jaunty egret]

And maybe prominently use sub worlds like minecraft dimensions

[arctic cliff]

so i can justify talking about volcanoes in #other-mod-talk

[pulsar cobalt]

id make the underground/cavern smaller, and make the world overall longer for whatever new biomes i wanted to add

[jaunty egret]

Yea perhaps it would be better to move, oops

[pulsar cobalt]

not sure wat else id do tho

[ocean jetty]

it is i

[pulsar cobalt]

hi tyrant

[ocean jetty]

hi

[earnest jewel]

Hello.

[fathom girder]

Are you THE John vcmm

[earnest jewel]

No, that's his father.

[arctic cliff]

good question, where?

[jaunty egret]

Sadly this is two versions too late to have Infinite Rocket Boots via them being powered by Mana

[fathom girder]

Mods using that idea would probably mimic minecraft mods

[jaunty egret]

Uhhh, other mod maybe?

[fathom girder]

more builds focused and less expansive like what we have here

[jaunty egret]

I would also probably make it more exploration focused with a spotlight on new areas instead of having old ones get new stuff

[fathom girder]

Right. It would be FAR more akin to how minecraft mods work

[jaunty egret]

Sorta yea

[dull heart]

I would want to mod terraria before 1.0.6

1.0.6 added classes and potions and crits

[jaunty egret]

although I feel like if you extend this to it's logical conclusion then the games map just becomes Noita

[dull heart]

1.0.5 was potions wait

[jaunty egret]

I could see an argument for doing that tbh

[tropic jolt]

noita more like no items

[dull heart]

I'd probably want to start on 1.0.5 or 1.0.4

but that's also partially my nostalgia

I began on 1.0.1

And the old terraria trailer for those versions looks genuinely so fun

Like watch this and tell me this game doesn't look banger
https://youtu.be/w7uOhFTrrq0?si=hEANaESlFEgLsttZ

that way I can know who has opinions I should ignore

[jaunty egret]

I first played on like, Console 1.2

1.2 as in the desktop equivalent

[dull heart]

Yeah

[tropic jolt]

scary

[inner timber]

i feel a bta equivalent to terraria would be vastly more difficult to make

[dull heart]

Sometimes I think about entirely remaking Terraria

Like not as a mod like from scratch

[jaunty egret]

Even if I never personally experienced it, this fuckass looking dungeon would be awesome

[earnest jewel]

Be careful, I saw someone say something like that and they went insane.

[dull heart]

I'm not worried about that

[tropic jolt]

call it Super Terraria Doze X

[dull heart]

I don't have sanity anyway

[jaunty egret]

Objectively yea, largely because unlike MC:BTA, the newer content that you'd be removing was actually good

[inner timber]

would probably be a better alternative than just like, better than . undeluxe ig since updates didnt really have names before 1.1

[dull heart]

Remaking Terraria would allow me to make the engine work better

No more ties to vanilla spaghetti

[inner timber]

not because of that (i feel newer mc content is fine lol) but because like, terraria has,, less to work with in a sense due to being less sandboxy

[tropic jolt]

terraria but subworlds actually work

[dull heart]

But I don't think I'll ever do it

I don't think I have the time for that

[jaunty egret]

Fair, I don't actually hate new MC content, it's just trendy to act like you do (Although I do prefer a sprint-less, hunger-less minecraft)

[dull heart]

I feel like Minecraft really changed its direction starting in 1.13

Terraria started changing its direction in 1.2 or 1.1

[tropic jolt]

terraria 2 or minecraft 2 which will come first

[dull heart]

And again in 1.4

[jaunty egret]

But I do think that a Terraria BTA-equivalent would have to be removing content that is far more foundational to what Terraria is then what BTA removed

[dull heart]

I don't think so

[earnest jewel]

You want sprint-less minecraft? Are you insane!?

[inner timber]

i think minecraft's current biggest flaw is that it is too stuck up on old mechanics and does NOT want to change them

[wooden fulcrum]

it was banger

[inner timber]

notable ones being anvil/the enchanting system in general, and the existence of durability

[dull heart]

I don't think any of those are inherently bad

Also, Minecraft has literally changed the enchanting system before multiple times

I remember when the max level was 50 and it used every level

And needed like twice the bookshelves

Durability is also Fine, it's the repair system that's horrific

[tropic jolt]

too expensive!

[wooden fulcrum]

bro i remember using axes to break wood blocks and the initail tutorial with the ore pit when terraria came out

multiplayer was hype

[jaunty egret]

The moral of the story is that old thing I played when I was a child that hadn't developed taste yet = Good. New thing made after I already grew out of liking the original thing = Bad

[wooden fulcrum]

and then they ported to mobile

[inner timber]

i think the (current) enchanting & anvil system and durability are like fundamentally opposed . durability comes from a time when everything was temporary and replacable and had no investment put into it . now there is genuinely so much investment you can put into shits that it feels weird that things can permanently break and the only things you can to do stop it is Mending (the bandaid enchantments of all time) and disenchanting to reset the anvil count (which is straight dogshit cheeks)

[tropic jolt]

truth nuke!

[hard hearth]

durability sucks repair system also sucks

[inner timber]

god anvil too expensive is so terrible ass

[jaunty egret]

Truth Draco Apocalypse

[hard hearth]

thumby

[wooden fulcrum]

spending 67 levels to repair my bow that doesnt have meding

[inner timber]

minecraft did good when they introduced elytra because that cannot permanently break

0 durability just means it stops working

[tropic jolt]

if only everything was like that

[inner timber]

anything like, iron and above should be like that

[jaunty egret]

I mean I have issues with everything else Elytra caused, but it does have a good durability system

[inner timber]

i get stone and wood not staying that'd be weird and unneeded

but the metals shouldnt break

[lapis oak]

wow DST rift items

[inner timber]

tinkers construct sweep

[wooden fulcrum]

maybe diamond and later tools shouldnt break bc of the time investment, but i feel like wood/stone is fine

almost preffered

[jaunty egret]

What if Terraria but the pvp is good?

[tropic jolt]

iron breaks so fast its kind of crazy

[wooden fulcrum]

summoner pvp would be so fun

[inner timber]

terraria pvp being good requires terraria mp to be good

[tropic jolt]

but you get diamond like 20 minutes after iron so it doesnt matter

[inner timber]

mp is the only reason pvp is ass i cant lie
that and summons not functioning properly

[wooden fulcrum]

get friends

[dull heart]

This is why repairing just needs to never get more expensive

problem solved

[jaunty egret]

mp?

[wooden fulcrum]

yeah, that and enchants that "cost too much" to put on my tools

[inner timber]

and instead they fucking added mending like that fixed anything

[wooden fulcrum]

like what

[inner timber]

and the too expensive thing existing in general is ass because it requires a (largely) random ass order of book combining to get something maxxed

and it only gets stupider the more enchants they add

[jaunty egret]

oh Multiplayer

[dull heart]

Y'know the worst thing about mending

Infinity being mutually exclusive

[wooden fulcrum]

its required on every tool?

yes.

that too

[inner timber]

man i love prot 5 unbreaking 3 mending feather fall 3 depth strider 2 soul speed 3 thorns 2 boots

[wooden fulcrum]

like what is the purpose

[dull heart]

I get infinity being mutually exclusive with some enchantment

But not MENDING

[wooden fulcrum]

wait till they add the spear and give boots a charging enchant or smthn

[inner timber]

i personally dont mind as much because bows are a lot easier to max out than other tools and they rarely break

[dull heart]

Not when my bow only gets 360 durability

or 330

or whatever

[inner timber]

unbreaking 3 makes that on average ~1000

iirc

[wooden fulcrum]

trident gets loyalty + mending

no infinity mending on your bow

[dull heart]

honestly

[inner timber]

1300ish

[lapis oak]

FUCK THIS

[dull heart]

Make unbreaking and mending mutually exclusive

but make repairs not cost XP, only material

[lapis oak]

I HATE THIS SO MUCH

[wooden fulcrum]

that'd be nice tbh

need to keep a store of materials, or a farm for exp

[inner timber]

this would unironically barely change anything

[dull heart]

Not true

Only needing material would make it so that you can realistically just repair

[inner timber]

in terms of mending usage

[jaunty egret]

Someone should make a Calamity Addon that just brings back the shitty old Post-Moon Lord scaling where every single boss tier increases the damage numbers by 4 orders of magnitude again

[dull heart]

That would be a pretty huge change

[inner timber]

this would really only affect rods and bows

[dull heart]

Mending would no longer be mandatory

[wooden fulcrum]

oh, you want to repair your pickaxe in a cave? lose all enchants or craft an anvil and just have the materials and levels needed

[dusk bronze]

remove mending and rework the repair system entirely 👍

[inner timber]

a pickaxe repairs itself by mining

[wooden fulcrum]

silk touch...

[inner timber]

your main tools generate xp by doing anything

[dull heart]

Hear me out

[wooden fulcrum]

silk touch is my daily driver so that my inventory doesnt clog

[dusk bronze]

shovel

[dull heart]

Mending only works while sleeping

[inner timber]

sword kills, pickaxe mines, armor benefits from any xp

[dull heart]

You have to collect XP while sleeping

[wooden fulcrum]

Petah, the wraiths are here

[inner timber]

axe kills now

[inner timber]

i cant call shovel a main tool

[dull heart]

Smelting also gives XP

[inner timber]

there's also experience bottles

[wooden fulcrum]

i dont wanna have to treat my silk touch pickaxe like a pokemon in gen 3 before team-wide EXP share

[jaunty egret]

Durability in minecraft is weird cause I feel like it was a good good idea at the beginning of the game, but then enchants and just generally equipment becoming upgradable and requiring so much more investment became a thing and not Durability is retroactively a terrible idea

[dull heart]

Xp bottles are fine

[inner timber]

and id much rather have mending than unbreaking on anything netherite

[inner timber]

tinkers construct sweep

[dull heart]

Anyhow either way

Please just make it so that repairing doesn't get more expensive

And maybe doesn't even need XP

[wooden fulcrum]

breaking my max enchant netherite pickaxe that took 12 hours to get bc i wasnt watching the little green bar on the hotbar

[earnest jewel]

I don't recall Mending and Unbreaking being mutually exclusive.

[inner timber]

this is theorycrafting

well hypothetical

[earnest jewel]

I mean you can repair without costing XP but it removes enchantments.

[inner timber]

not really theorying

[dull heart]

What if mending worked like breath of the wild Master Sword

[earnest jewel]

Ban.

[dull heart]

It will repair your pickaxe once it breaks

[inner timber]

no clue how that works never played botw

[lapis oak]

because they don't

Mending and Infinity is the one combo 🤬

[dull heart]

Master sword has limited durability but once it breaks it will recharge in 10 minutes to full

[inner timber]

i suppose that could work

i honestly like tinkers construct mending moss (in 1.12)

[dull heart]

How does it work in that version

I thought it was literally just mending

[lapis oak]

when is the time to kill 64 per stack

[inner timber]

it stores xp and slowly regens durability over time with it

[dull heart]

Oh so it's the 1.7.10 Moss but it needs XP to function

That could work too

[inner timber]

i think its like 3 durability per few seconds or smth

idk if its % based or flat

[jaunty egret]

You know the greatest Minecraft Mod of all time, The Bumblezone, actually adds a lot of abilities that function basically exactly like BoTW Champion abilities

[dull heart]

It should be flat because the amount of durability damage isn't a percentage

[wooden fulcrum]

my minecraft playthrough i did a little bit ago where i went against my terraria modded experience and downloaded 600+ mods to ruin my experience even more

so many crashes...

[lapis oak]

RLCraft greatest modpack 😋

[inner timber]

minecraft modpacks tend to have a lot more mods than terraria

my current one has like 250

one of the armors i want needs like 400 bars of shit that isnt affected by fortune

[tropic jolt]

minecraft modpacks try not to turn the game into terraria challenge

[wooden fulcrum]

:the mod that adds little like garden gnomes of the player that insta-crash my game if they enter my render distance:

[open steeple]

i dont really like minecraft tbh

i liked hypixel skyblock

a bit

[inner timber]

each ingot needs 2 of a different ingot and the gems need 9 of those ingots and then i need 24 gems for the full armor

which is like 216 of the first bars

[open steeple]

does modded minecraft have like clear objectives to do

[dull heart]

Depends

You can find packs that do

[open steeple]

i dont like the more freeform style of vanilla

[dull heart]

you'd like some challenge packs then

[inner timber]

most do

[dull heart]

my personal favorite is Project Ozone 2

[inner timber]

most modpacks anyways

[dull heart]

Or Blightfall

Blightfall so peak

[open steeple]

idk i could also just get another factory game but idk any good ones

[dull heart]

I have never gotten very far on it

[wooden fulcrum]

rare mob drop that can be turned into a petty gem (takes 9) which can be turned into a lesser gem (takes 9 petty) which can be turned into a regular gem (takes 9 lesser) which can be turned into...

[dull heart]

There is two

Factorio

Modded Minecraft

[open steeple]

and all of them are soooo learny

[inner timber]

the skyfactory series, divine journey, new horizons, gregtech, some other shit

[open steeple]

factorio wasnt that fun for me

[wooden fulcrum]

satisfactory is fun with friends and mindustry will run on any computer

[dull heart]

factorio is like the primary example of a factory game imo

[open steeple]

i already play mindustry

[wooden fulcrum]

ture...

[open steeple]

like i used to be kind of serious about pvp but i still sucked

[dull heart]

I need to buy factorio space age

[wooden fulcrum]

i love mindustry, lets me do something to waste 6 hours at a time optimising copper on a PvE map that doesnt matter

kinda like Civ 6

[open steeple]

also mindustry will not run on any pc if you load into a idkwhat7name map and zoom out all the way

[wooden fulcrum]

then dont do that...

[open steeple]

brings my 5700x3d down to 20 fps 😭

single threaded games..

[wooden fulcrum]

hmmm

i wonder what other single threaded games have FPS issues

hmmmmmmmmm

[dull heart]

don't worry

if I remake terraria I will also let it be single threaded

do not fear

[wooden fulcrum]

[tropic jolt]

[open steeple]

all of them

[wooden fulcrum]

i still cant use wavepounder against DoG without losing hella frames even with my new PC

[open steeple]

i only get terraria fps issues if i try using wotg

[open steeple]

didnt wave pounder get killed

[wooden fulcrum]

not as if it does dmg to him anyways...

yeah lmao

1/4 damage to DoG

dog also has 98.5% DR on his body segments or smthn stupid

so like .75 % damage

[inner timber]

you should try tainted excelsus against thanatos

[inner timber]

96%

or is it 92%

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Devourer_of_Gods

[wooden fulcrum]

92.5

so 7.5% before the 1/4 nerf

so like 1.8% damage to DoG

before accounting for the 70 armor

nvm

its a 1/5

[dull heart]

yeah it's 1/5

I should return deep sea dumbbell to its former glory

[wooden fulcrum]

2 shotting a boss is fine

for an on-tier weapon

[dull heart]

Bro got murdered

Less than 1/3rd of the damage

[wooden fulcrum]

actually tragic

[dull heart]

All versions of stealth got 8+ minutes 😭

[wooden fulcrum]

5:23 fastest kill is tragic

[dull heart]

this item needs a lot of help

[wooden fulcrum]

could do better with wave pounder even

[lapis oak]

Deep Sea Dumbbell the weapon that every ancient youtubers used in their playthroughs

[dull heart]

yea

130% to 40%

[fathom girder]

I forget

is stealth -> focus just a rename, or will it be a mechanical change as well

this is deep

[dull heart]

Mechanical

No more stupid obtuse stealth formula

now sensical understandable stealth formula

[fathom girder]

Nice :D

[cobalt wharf]

i requested 40% btw!!!!! not my fault!!!!!!

[dull heart]

I blame you

[fathom girder]

make it 400%

clearly

[dull heart]

4000% but base dmg nerfed to 1

[fathom girder]

lacerator gfb moment

[cobalt wharf]

#1186019949643321384 message nvm i wanted 75%

still not my fault what if that 5% mattered!!!!

[fathom girder]

clearly you really wanted it to be 40%

in secret

[hushed hazel]

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[vivid hemlock]

the horrible hog

[earnest jewel]

The perfect pig.

[frail tapir]

The ||UN||perfect pi

[agile latch]

time to sprite the good piggy

[fringe quiver]

piggy resprite...

the horrible hog and the pefect piggy

[agile latch]

i need to sprite the bad piglites (the minions bad piggy can call to his aid)

[earnest jewel]

You mean pigglets or are they screwed up.

[agile latch]

they are screwed up..

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395549885150924850/1399437771453632614/attachment-7.gif

[fringe quiver]

is horrible hog basically a miniboss atp

this boar so wicked

this swine so terrible

[fringe quiver]

or well more like

[summer shore]

This pig is phucked phup

[fringe quiver]

one of those "miniboss" regular enemies from vanilla

like biome mimics

or paladins

like theyre not really minibosses

in the same way cnidrion or king clam will be

but yk

[hushed crown]

Would you call them something like a boss enemy

Still labelled as an enemy but clearly standing out from the rest but not enough to be labelled not an enemy yk

[summer shore]

it's just strong enemy

boss enemies are just bosses

[fringe quiver]

id just call them idk elite enemies or something if i were to give them a specific denomination

similar to how limbus company does it

when theres a really strong enemy in a group but that isnt really a boss its just called a elite enemy

[vivid hemlock]

wait i just realized that piggy is being resprited god bless

[frail owl]

kill the pig

extirpate the source of evil

[twin juniper]

Paladin

[fringe quiver]

yeah like that

paladins, biome mimics, etc

[vivid hemlock]

hardmode variant of horrible hog

[earnest jewel]

Paladin's already the name of an enemy.

[fringe quiver]

prehardmode you get the horrible hog
in hardmode you get the Satanic Swine

[vivid hemlock]

it gets tusks

[frail owl]

i'm here to say that the profaned guardians are probably women

[fringe quiver]

they are yeah

[twin juniper]

yeah

[earnest jewel]

Good job for figuring out the lore.

[vivid hemlock]

its canon

[frail owl]

yeah

[vivid hemlock]

[frail owl]

thank you bestiary for the intriguing detail

[fathom girder]

This mod still serves bad piggies the old way!

[agile latch]

[fathom girder]

that's cool

I wanna see more stuff like that tbh

variety is the spice of life and that can make farming fun

[jaunty sequoia]

need more spoliers

[dusk bronze]

GOOD PIGGY

[fathom girder]

can I kill it

[earnest jewel]

Saved Swine.

[vivid hemlock]

HOLY CRAP

GOD PIGGY

[earnest jewel]

You mean the thing I ALREADY COMMENTED ON!

[fathom girder]

duality of man

[agile latch]

bacon, delicious meat and disgusting meat

[neat dock]

hi im hr

[vivid hemlock]

snow piggy?

[earnest jewel]

Add Peppa, George, insert other pigs.

[agile latch]

good piggy

[dull heart]

piggy
bad piggy
Post-bird piggy

[agile latch]

spawn on the sky or if you use purification powder on a piggy

if you use the evil powder on a piggy it becomes a bad piggy

[vivid hemlock]

piggy
good piggy
horrible hog

[fathom girder]

Oh I love that

[agile latch]

and you can purificate a bad piggy into a normal piggy

[fathom girder]

purification powder will now always be on hand

[dull heart]

bad piggy should spawn during blood moon

[agile latch]

he will

[dull heart]

perfect

Like the evil fish and penguins

[agile latch]

making xyk do a really over the top animation

[fathom girder]

were these piggies created to explain like

[vivid hemlock]

is bad piggy 3 am still real

[agile latch]

of burst of sun light appearing from the sky

[fathom girder]

why pigrons exist

[agile latch]

and hitting the piggy

while angelical music plays

as it becomes a good piggy

[fathom girder]

and then it gets sniped by the player

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[fathom girder]

will all piggies have attacks now?

or just horrible hog

[agile latch]

just bad

[fathom girder]

mk

[fringe quiver]

triangle please call it the horrible hog

[neat dock]

xeroc-blessed piggy

[dusk bronze]

is this the replacement for golden bat?

[agile latch]

(the more i think about it.. these guys are very fandomsulian content)

[fringe quiver]

its a peak name triangle

[agile latch]

no

golden bat will still be real

[dusk bronze]

hell yeah

[fathom girder]

Horrible hog makes so much sense...

[agile latch]

very loreful

[fringe quiver]

they're incredibly fucking goofy but to be fair piggy itself is already goofy and its just like one enemy

So i think it's fine

[fathom girder]

I mean honestly these guys could explain hallow and evil pigrons

[agile latch]

i wonder what these guys bestiaries will be

[fringe quiver]

It's fine to have some small goofy ass shit

It just becomes jarring if its like. major.

[fathom girder]

like "oh yeah pigrons were made using these little guys"

[fringe quiver]

pigrons are dragons

[agile latch]

pigrons are just dragon offshoots

[dusk bronze]

"this wretched beast wants to kill you"

[fringe quiver]

hes green because he wants to kill you

[agile latch]

who are weaker, and were more suscestible than others to corruption by god essence

[earnest jewel]

Can't wait to describe how to eat these guys. :)

[vivid hemlock]

horrible hog named animal of the year

[dusk bronze]

they are green for an amazing reason

[agile latch]

green humor piggy

i need to contact the piggy donor now

[fathom girder]

needs more green mh gif

[agile latch]

if they are real

for the resprite

[fathom girder]

wait bruh

[vivid hemlock]

oh right piggy is donor content

[fathom girder]

piggies were a donor thing?

[earnest jewel]

Yup.

[fathom girder]

do they have to allow the special piggies

[earnest jewel]

Technically non-canon.

Tragic, I know.

[dusk bronze]

[fringe quiver]

I think they just have to allow the resprite

[agile latch]

they have to allow the resprite

[fringe quiver]

The bad piggy and good piggy should probably be fine i think

[agile latch]

the other piggies dont need donor aproval

[fringe quiver]

I mean specially the bad piggy that mf looks nothing like it

[fathom girder]

alright

[dull heart]

we might not be able to do the powder stuff without donor

[neat dock]

just ask the donor to make it lore accurate

[dull heart]

That's borderline probably

[agile latch]

true

[fathom girder]

Maaaybe bring that up with em yeah

[agile latch]

at worst i can just make bad piggies go into good piggies

with powder

[dull heart]

Yea

but I'd imagine the donor won't mind

[neat dock]

1 or 2

[neat dock]

thank you

[fathom girder]

1

[dusk bronze]

the donor is already deeply unserious because
yeah

[dull heart]

good news people

[fathom girder]

do you really know that though

Hm?

[dull heart]

my laptop is existing

[fathom girder]

i um

[dusk bronze]

that is good news

[earnest jewel]

Wow.

[fathom girder]

is that your workstation?

[neat dock]

[dull heart]

Yes

[fathom girder]

ah

good then

[dull heart]

I have been using a laptop since may

The laptop I begun using in May was my mom's old one and it was an upgrade to my desktop lol

[fathom girder]

goddamn

how old was that PC lmao

[dull heart]

The CPU currently goes for $20 and the graphics was a 780 or something

[fathom girder]

christ

that thing could barely run terraria by the sound of it

[dull heart]

It was ok

I did WotG on it

[fathom girder]

hm

bit of a testament to the optimization of that mod

a 780 can barely run Tboi

[dull heart]

no a 780 is fine

I could play zzz on it

barely

but I could

[fathom girder]

lol

[dull heart]

and not barely like "this is unplayable"

barely like I had to turn settings down to minimum but it was definitely still playable

[fathom girder]

not bad. Didn't realize a 780 could still do work

[thorny fjord]

Aren't they not real?

Like, the item was made just based on their username because they never responded?

That's the story I heard at least

[halcyon seal]

WHAT.

Pigs did fly I guess

[dusk bronze]

there is no piggy donor in ba sing se

[agile latch]

yea

did some search now

so there is no patreon user to ask for..

a user called piggy was real, but they disapeared

so when the time to make their item got real, they just made a little piggy critter

[fathom girder]

so... what now

[agile latch]

so the resprite is real (and the piggy changes can be real too)

no user that we need to get confirmation from

[fathom girder]

oh great

[lapis oak]

when the ghost talks

shhh

[vivid hemlock]

kiri is a ghost

a very loud ghost

[brave star]

How do I make my text shrink and be a lil dark

[halcyon pebble]

Question regarding Draedon’s lore,

It says that he had machines roaming in year 1385. Does the year connect and correspond to the year in irl? Like 2025 being the same year as 2025 in terraria or is 1385 equivalent to say 1900

[dusty tinsel]

-#

-# hello

[brave star]

Go to #lore-discussion

[brave star]

-# hello ghost

[halcyon pebble]

The channel doesn’t exist for me

[brave star]

Try going to the channels and roles thing and enable lore discussion

[halcyon pebble]

Ah yes fixed ty

[brave star]

Ok

[halcyon seal]

Maybe it’s actually 1386

Maybe draedon is just bad at his job

Maybe Draedon was betrayed and trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber

[halcyon pebble]

Maybe

[brave star]

I think that ghost swallowed a microphone

[ionic folio]

So, I heard y'all like the Wings of Rebirth

[dusk bronze]

👁️ 👁️

for tracers?

[ionic folio]

Perhaps

[vivid hemlock]

WINGS

[agile latch]

a

[final cedar]

YESSSSSS

[vivid hemlock]

tracers.....

[ocean jetty]

holy fucking awesome dia

good shit

good luck animating allat

[halcyon seal]

Damn those seraph wings look clean as HELL

[stone zephyr]

damn those are nice

[wide wadi]

Dang made me moan

A moan of joy to see these beautiful designs

[wide wadi]

Crossing it out like it isn’t dropped from the empress of light

[brave star]

Are those three new wings?

[wide wadi]

[brave star]

Also hi Dia

How’s ur day

[pseudo vector]

new celestial, elysian and seraph tracer wings

[smoky panther]

omg

[fringe quiver]

are those tusks or did you make him drool i cant tell

i think its tusks

i was hoping its drool so it could be a drooling feral hog

[rich ginkgo]

oh yeah just like that 🤤🤤🤤

[fringe quiver]

gold piggy is cool though

[fringe quiver]

these are awesome, i love elysian specially

[wide wadi]

whoa yall spoiling a little too much must be close to release

[tropic jolt]

february 30th for sure

[agile latch]

rarest critter

[vivid hemlock]

[agile latch]

99 gold if you caught it

canny..

[hoary edge]

absolute banger!!

[agile latch]

a single golden piggy can fully change a country economy

[vivid hemlock]

golden piggy will save this server

[lapis oak]

INSANE BANGER

FUUUCCCK

😋 🙏 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[wide wadi]

Them yharim wings

The gold ones

[dusty tinsel]

removing kiri's liver

for all caps

[lapis oak]

😨 ???

[neat field]

one golden piggy makes you the richest man on earth. two golden piggies pay off the us national debt. three golden piggies and the entire universe's economy collapses. four golden piggies and your wealth cannot be contained in this reality

[neat field]

this will be the change that makes shoes good again

[hard copper]

Good for the vanity slot

[neat field]

five golden piggies and you will be able to afford auric tier patreon

[brave star]

Wtf if pigs flys then can pigs swim

[agile latch]

confirmed calamity spoiler by the goverment coming in 2028?

[lyric trellis]

Hope this is the only achievement ever

[brave star]

Awesome gay god remains
Evil and intimidating pig

[hard copper]

oink

[tropic jolt]

the sin of gluttony

[vivid hemlock]

first of many

[neat field]

six golden piggies and you can buy 2 copies of calamity mod

[vivid hemlock]

holy crap is that big e

[fallen olive]

SSO was actually always the Super Swine Overhaul

[wide wadi]

new pig boss confirmed

[neat field]

we will go back to the roots of the old duke

old duke -> duke fishron

[fathom girder]

dia holy fuck dude

keep cooking

[neat field]

duke fishron -> fishron -> pigron -> pig -> piggy

[fathom girder]

Little Piggle is next

[neat field]

old duke will be replaced by a

[fathom girder]

Horrible Hog

[brave star]

Is that hawk’s uncle?

(Hawk from SDS)

[hardy gulch]

Welcome back drooling feral hog

[brave star]

I miss Hawk

[lean relic]

How hungry......

[brave star]

So hungry he could eat three eggs of some angry looking birds

[main falcon]

They should add the bad piggies mofit to dukefishron

[brave star]

True

[neat field]

i want to make that my pfp honestly

[pearl sentinel]

me too, ugh.

[wide wadi]

oh yes the cosmic pig god boss

[dusk bronze]

evil and intimidating swine

[lapis oak]

fat pig

[neat field]

thank you △

[agile latch]

"To ham and back"
Purify a bad piggy into a piggy, then purify it again into a good piggy

(Reference to the economical xbox 360 terraria achievement, to hell and back)

[agile latch]

[brave star]

What if the pigs were G R E E N

[obtuse hawk]

that would be... erm... bad!

those who calami3

[split vigil]

those who calami4

[neat field]

okay so if 3 golden piggies is more than the world economy and 5 golden piggies can buy two copies of calamity

then where does all the money go

[tropic jolt]

ozzatron used the money to gain total CONTROL

[stark pond]

tinkerer

i uh

[obtuse hawk]

double it and give it to crabulon

[stark pond]

used them all on accessories reforging

[obtuse hawk]

fear

[neat field]

what is this, some king of ultimate edition

[obtuse hawk]

mfw 3 thousand plat for warding