#calamity-update-talk
agile latch
fringe quiver
This mod means alot to me and ive built part of my identity around it atp
But
I cannot deny
in the slightest
fathom girder
"Signis is corite AI"
agile latch
exo mechs are "unique" i think
fathom girder
is fucking insane
fringe quiver
That because of The Horse
viral merlin
We will see every boss rework
Eventually
fringe quiver
calamity bosses's suck ass and a large amount of ocntent in the mod is super old and needs to be modernized
tropic pawn
i dont hate fabsol enough do i
fringe quiver
thank god for sunken sea overhaul
pseudo vector
we have a lot of modernisation to do
versed heart
We will see every boss rework
Eventually
Including SCal? cool
pseudo vector
sso will be the beginning of it in a way
unless there's already some ingame that i'm not entirely aware of
wicked temple
Meow
tropic jolt
Including SCal? cool
scal would probably be last since shes already a mostly good boss
white aurora
what are some funny ones
wicked temple
Have u seen much of it
fringe quiver
unless there's already some ingame that i'm not entirely aware of
Besides some gear not really
fringe quiver
There's some pretty cool gear like the wulfrum set or just a few weapons that coders got their hands on
vivid hemlock
yharim with fighter ai
pearl sentinel
woah. he makes banger music AND can draw? must be practically fending the ladies off with a stick
dusk bronze
what are some funny ones
dragonfolly is mothron
fringe quiver
Other than that yeah not really
halcyon seal
scal would probably be last since shes already a mostly good boss
I think rn all scal really needs is a redo of the bullet hells
vivid hemlock
reworked ravager with deerclops and golem ai
fringe quiver
It really is just some gear here and there
pearl sentinel
I think rn all scal really needs is a redo of the bullet hells
yes they should be removed !
fringe quiver
mod has some cool armorsets and weapons
agile latch
the little follies he spawn have the same ai as baby mothrons too btw
viral merlin
Calamity still stuck in early tmod modding days when it comes to boss ai
violet bobcat
yharim with all boss attacks and slowly just turns into a burrito
dusk bronze
reworked ravager with deerclops and golem ai
oh god fab absolutely would've done that
tropic jolt
I think rn all scal really needs is a redo of the bullet hells
I think its weird they only travel in 4 directions
makes it feel too artificial
fringe quiver
oh god fab absolutely would've done that
@wicked temple
versed heart
I think rn all scal really needs is a redo of the bullet hells
Maybe, the Brother stuff at the least seems good to me
halcyon seal
I think its weird they only travel in 4 directions
Actually yeah it is weird that we have no diagonals
fringe quiver
Back when rav redesign was revealed
wicked temple
Tbh
fringe quiver
Weren't u convinced fab was just gonna make it deerclops ai
Or am i misremembering
wicked temple
Its kinda tragic that fab is gone bc we’ll never know what he would’ve done with yharim
pearl sentinel
Calamity still stuck in early tmod modding days when it comes to boss ai
the bosses are actually on par with tremors bosses
wicked temple
Or xeroc or noxus
frail tapir
Armored digger is getting a full rework right?
halcyon seal
the bosses are actually on par with tremors bosses
Ok I wouldnt go that far
fringe quiver
xeroc wouldve been empress
dusk bronze
Armored digger is getting a full rework right?
overhaul
wicked temple
What ai would he have stolen from
halcyon seal
I think we are vastly overestimating the quality of tremor bosses if we’re saying they’re on par with current cal
dusk bronze
xeroc wouldve been empress
you are completely correct
agile latch
Its kinda tragic that fab is gone bc we’ll never know what he would’ve done with...
you will never see fabsol cnidrion
white aurora
What ai would he have stolen from
selenian or sum
agile latch
it was going to have a roll attack and shoot duke fishron bubbles..
white aurora
or paladin
vivid hemlock
it was going to have a roll attack and shoot duke fishron bubbles..
yep
fringe quiver
it was going to have a roll attack and shoot duke fishron bubbles..
Is that true.
Are you fr.
agile latch
yes..
wicked temple
Wait
white aurora
i would hate dealing with those in prehm
fringe quiver
🐘
dusk bronze
viral merlin
Its kinda tragic that fab is gone bc we’ll never know what he would’ve done with...
Paladin
fringe quiver
hell torture.
pearl sentinel
it was going to have a roll attack and shoot duke fishron bubbles..
wow
agile latch
🥹 yharim would be deerclops ai
wicked temple
🥺 leak fabsol cnidrion plans
wicked temple
🥹 yharim would be deerclops ai
Deerclops + paladin
fringe quiver
rolling around and shooting fishron bubbles clearly
pearl sentinel
What ai would he have stolen from
i feel like your username is familair but ife nevr seen you before
halcyon seal
Its kinda tragic that fab is gone bc we’ll never know what he would’ve done with...
$20 says it would’ve been goblin sorcerer + fighter AI
fringe quiver
no i think
the person that said selenian
was onto something
selenian are those solar pillar guys that are like melee
wicked temple
i feel like your username is familair but ife nevr seen you before
Azathoth
fringe quiver
they charge at you but also do a big jump
wicked temple
selenian are those solar pillar guys that are like melee
Oh true
white aurora
selenian are those solar pillar guys that are like melee
yeah they jump at you and stuff
fringe quiver
and spin while they jump
halcyon seal
Are selenian the sword or spear guys
halcyon seal
Oh the sword
viral merlin
Yharim rock golem ai
halcyon seal
Shit maybe
fringe quiver
selenians are sword yeah
white aurora
that reflects projectiles
frail tapir
selenian are those solar pillar guys that are like melee
Oh those dip shits, I hate those thing
fringe quiver
yharim selenian ai
fringe quiver
with a bullet hell
agile latch
🥺 leak fabsol cnidrion plans
fringe quiver
of course
pearl sentinel
thats my wife
i could reason that yes
tropic jolt
forced to fight watcher knights in every game
vivid hemlock
yharon rework except its just old duke + old duke
pseudo pine
they aren't the worst ideas
dusk bronze
fringe quiver
double old duke
agile latch
yharon bubbles
pseudo pine
not the most original but certainly not terrible
pearl sentinel
Azathoth
i know but like i dont remember any ever interacting with you even thoguh im sure i did
white aurora
forced to fight watcher knights in every game
god forbid he got inspo from silksong bosses
viral merlin
Good thing it never came to that
agile latch
savage yharon fly
fringe quiver
savage beastfly on calamity
viral merlin
Fuck silksong bosses
fringe quiver
SAVAGE YHARONFLY
wicked temple
Noxus would be
fringe quiver
im the worlds only savage beastfly fan
dont fuck with us savage beastfly fans theres 3 of us
tropic jolt
which boss would use groal ai
wicked temple
Noxus would be the pirate ship
versed heart
which boss would use groal ai
Old Duke maybe?
fringe quiver
wait fucking true???
buoyant pulsar
xeroc uses bat ai
white aurora
what boss would use martian saucer ai
dusk bronze
ravager rework phase 1
lyric trellis
Should’ve reused duke bubbles so they wouldn’t break in master and be so fun
white aurora
does polter use dungeon spirit ai sometimes i swear it moves like one in it's later phases
or is it always just faster plantera
pearl sentinel
see like a lot of cal bosses are
very obvious in what they take code from
but like providence being ice queen actually surprised me
vivid hemlock
i can see it pretty easily
dull heart
fire queen
brave star
What if Savage Calamifly
dull heart
why is old duke one of the most unique calamity ais
this is so sad
the actual most unique calamity AI is probably void
dull heart
although once CV was BoC ai but with 400 hp and 99.99% DR and it respawned the creepers
hoary edge
xeroc uses bat ai
exo mechs uses vanilla mechs ai 
white aurora
why is old duke one of the most unique calamity ais
the joke boss has one of the most unique ais 
dull heart
genuinely the only bosses that have more unique ai then old duke is like
maybe aquatic scourge, exos, void
who am i forgetting
versed heart
I assume Cryogen might be one but idk
brave star
What ai does Prov have
dusk bronze
I assume Cryogen might be one but idk
deadly sphere, no?
dusk bronze
What ai does Prov have
ice queen
brave star
How ironic
versed heart
deadly sphere, no?
probably
brave star
She gets the movement of ice queen while being a fire goddess lmao
lyric trellis
deadly sphere, no?
Just like half the mod’s minion weapons no way
white aurora
what ai do levi and anahita use?
pearl sentinel
the actual most unique calamity AI is probably void
and void sucks
pearl sentinel
what ai do levi and anahita use?
levi is probably duke fishron
dull heart
void doesn't suck
pearl sentinel
yes it does its a void
fathom girder
the actual most unique calamity AI is probably void
inb4 wandering eye ai
brave star
What if Noxus AI was bird ai
viral merlin
It's all fighter ai
versed heart
A miniboss should reuse Headless Horseman ai tbh (this is a lie)
viral merlin
If calamity locked in it would have an enemy or boss mini boss that just runs away after getting it's ass kicked
Like that red guy from tboi mines
tropic jolt
yharon used to do that kind of
tropic jolt
slime god technically runs away but not visually
would be cool if it was changed to reflect that
dusk bronze
me when i spin so fast i turn invisible
viral merlin
Spinner
tropic jolt
fidget spinner
yharim definitely has subway surfers and minecraft parkour on his suit while watching our journey
versed heart
I guess considering that draedon was involved with Yharim for a while it's not unreasonable he'd have high tech armor like that
minus the Subway surfers and minecraft part, of course
but that's lore
fathom girder
Yharim definitely has gta races on a side panel
rare tinsel
the things in phm? where your mobility is too poor to adequately respond?
fathom girder
You have a dash bro it's not that bad
A dash and cloud in a bottle is all you need to mimic hk
dull heart
i mean
have you seen desert scourge
fabsol clearly tested with too strong of mobilty gear
main estuary
fabsol clearly tested with too strong of mobilty gear
smh
first calamity boss requires you to have a decent double jump
dull heart
or hook or lightning boots
versed heart
smh
first calamity boss requires you to have a decent double jump
The initial release version needed more than just a "decent double jump," at least occasionally
Before a bunch of random players gave feedback
stuck kite
could be worse
wise escarp
this mean it dont got the debuff immunity anymore?
wait wtf am i doing i didnt see the second part 😭
im actually so sleepy
why did they remove the debuff immunitiesss
hard copper
Because its op with them. They should remove the knockback immunity as well imo
misty wren
why did they remove the debuff immunitiesss
because the debuff immunities are even more overcentralizing on an already overcentralizing accessory line
wise escarp
bruh
lyric trellis
Because its op with them. They should remove the knockback immunity as well imo
Definitely not why it’s op, barely mattered outside of a few cases
misty wren
the best way to put it is just overcentralization
its not making it op, the effects are realistically not that great
but its something there that makes valors line even better than it already is and that isnt something needed or wanted
its another bullet point on the laundry list of reasons to never even think about taking off your ramdash
arctic cliff
for me its because its bonuses absolutely demolish the hell out of the other dash accessories
misty wren
in all reality
stuck kite
secretly a buff because it no longer necessitates ankh shield grinding
misty wren
in all reality
other dashes (especially mng line) should in like 90% of cases be numerically better than a ramdash
but cal has been designed around a ramdash for so long that the ramdash is a core part of gameplay rather than one of several dash choices
stuck kite
the meaningful nerf is actually the change below
arctic cliff
729 - Reduced the amount of frames where damage negation is possible for Asgard's Valor, Elysian Aegis, and Asgardian Aegis' dashes.
stuck kite
and it pretty much had it coming
frail tapir
> 729 - Reduced the amount of frames where damage negation is possible for Asgar...
what does this mean?
lyric trellis
secretly a buff because it no longer necessitates ankh shield grinding
True…
hard copper
Definitely not why it’s op, barely mattered outside of a few cases
Yeah I should have said something other than op, overcentralized is good. However the debuff immunities are quite convient outside of boss fights.
dull heart
what does this mean?
Ram duration is shorter
dull heart
Yeah I should have said something other than op, overcentralized is good. Howeve...
Even outside of boss fights the debuffs are pretty rare by the time you get valor unless you just don't have minions to protect you while exploring or something
like the post valor spots they really matter is just dungeon, cultist, and holy fire from the profaned enemies
stuck kite
assuming you dont kill them over walls from a screen away in 0.5 seconds
dull heart
yes
white aurora
tbf the post plant and post ml dungeon enemies are pretty tanky but the enemies that inflict those debuffs are melee only and will still probably die super quick
lmoa
dull heart
yeah
Well except the skulls that fire projectiles
Those do cursed from a distance iirc
anyway is it spoiler time @lapis oak
you have been elected to decide
iron dew
can i vote in offer of no
dull heart
yes but your vote has a weight of 0
iron dew
this works
stuck kite
truly significant
dusk bronze
i vote for the secret third option
dull heart
okay
the calamity GitHub has now been deleted and SSO is gone
look what you've caused
lean relic
Nooo
tropic jolt
tragedy
dull heart
stark pond
is that halley's inferno
dull heart
Yes
wide wadi
nice trick this is photoshopped clearlyu
lapis oak
The suspicious bar above the head
dull heart
true
lapis oak
It lost the scope ability right?
hardy gulch
suspicious???
lapis oak
I remembered u sayin that
twin juniper
Parry bar
dull heart
It lost the scope ability right?
Yes
However it does still maintain a sniper like identity
lapis oak
Good
dull heart
Just in a different way
I do kinda wanna give the scope back somehow
since it would fit really well with the rest of how it works
I just don't know how to make that work
lapis oak
I hate the scope 😭
sacred marlin
Forced freecam on every Xth projectile
fathom girder
I just don't know how to make that work
ADSing slowly creates a ring of fire around the cursor that deals extra damage, perhaps? And the ring grows stronger the longer you hold the scope?
The camera is kinda awkward to work with, an offensive incentive could be a good draw
hardy gulch
You do not have to keep the scope mechanic if it does not fit the feel and function of the weapon
hoary edge
HALLEY'S INFERNO!!!! 
shut granite
oh my god i found a leaked rotjd draft
lapis oak
what if we have PvZ in Calamity Mod
open steeple
soft panther
In the video of the new star cannon - what wings are they that they used? They look beautiful
Ping with answer
fathom girder
In the video of the new star cannon - what wings are they that they used? They l...
Xyk dev wings
soft panther
Ohhh you able to get those?
rich ginkgo
not rn
frail tapir
oh my god i found a leaked rotjd draft
What the
frail tapir
YESSIR REVAMP
dusk bronze
Ohhh you able to get those?
next update
soft panther
Nice 👌
hard copper
the bar is clearly a 75 year cooldown
native thistle
Waiter, waiter, more revamps please
high scaffold
Waiter, waiter, 1000th DoG resprite please
vestal osprey
Can the devs revamp my life, it sucks rn
dull heart
yes, here's the revamp: go watch the Fragrant Flower Blooms With Dignity and it'll be better
tepid oxide
Go watch Madagascar
spark kiln
there are ppl out there who genuinely believe that the calamity art team is artificially prolonging the completion of yharons sprite to extort patreon money from the community or something
cinder hearth
there are ppl out there who genuinely believe that the calamity art team is arti...
There will always be crazy people or conspiracy theorists
(oftentimes they're the same group)
distant raft
if its so easy then why dont they make the yharon then
hardy gulch
If theyre extorting patreon money, it probably happened during Fabsol's ownership ngl
cunning sequoia
there are ppl out there who genuinely believe that the calamity art team is arti...
dia is artificially inflating the price of yharon's resprite for his own financial gain
pseudo vector
💀
analog helm
oog
cinder hearth
cant believe yharon is a product of inflation
Time to Google this
hardy gulch
The funniest part about yharon in this day and age is that he will remain a duke fishron clone but with a good spritesheet stapled to it
vivid hemlock
yes because they will resprite him and not rework him, yes of course
hardy gulch
exactly
vivid hemlock
that totally makes sense
earnest jewel
If it ain't broke don't fix it obviously.
hardy gulch
fabsol boss code before fabsol ownership = the exact same code afterwards
nothing ever happens 
proud plover
@azure oak maybe you can add the implemented resprites from the art server to the sheet
obtuse hawk
will deadshot brooch still be post plantera considering the core of calamity will be split into its ingredients (afaik) or will it be nerfed
summer shore
It's the cores of x (like cores of eleum and stuff) that are removed, core of calamity still exists
Pretty sure
The recipes that use those are replaced with their essence versions + ectoplasm
obtuse hawk
ah
wooden blade
there are ppl out there who genuinely believe that the calamity art team is arti...
It's true, they confirmed it to me
viral merlin
there are ppl out there who genuinely believe that the calamity art team is arti...
Calamity fans
high scaffold
Yharon resprite is expensive and takes a lot of time
Id say its more costly then moon lord resprite
As, wings
And moon lord is also made of segments
So they realy are animating only his head tentacles and one arm
Which at most take 50% of animated part
And yharons wings are massive
And it probably have his whole body animated
torn kite
Bro's having a dialogue with himself
high scaffold
Schizophrenia gaming
cinder hearth
Yharon has:
base sprite (way higher quality than Moonlord)
Flapping wings (which are really hard to make properly while keeping it good-looking)
Moving mouth
Presumably other aspects of the fight like fireballs and flarenadoes
torn kite
Only mentioned moving mouth when yharon has 5 limbs that are way harder to animate
Especially tail
high scaffold
I mean, moon lord is getting completely resprited with higher quality but yes
torn kite
I mean, moon lord is getting completely resprited with higher quality but yes
???
Are we speaking vanilla or cal
high scaffold
Vanila
torn kite
?????
cinder hearth
Only mentioned moving mouth when yharon has 5 limbs that are way harder to anima...
I'm too used to current sprite which doesn't really move those
Obviously they'll rework the entire fight
But I didn't think about those
torn kite
Where was it stated that moon lord is getting a resprite?
cinder hearth
Where was it stated that moon lord is getting a resprite?
Who's saying that?
distant raft
dev statements iirc
torn kite
And why moonlord when there's worse sprites in vanilla
cinder hearth
And why moonlord when there's worse sprites in vanilla
Maybe cause it's the final boss
distant raft
dev statements iirc
torn kite
Maybe cause it's the final boss
It doesn't matter if it's a final boss, the game should be consistently good and not dogshit for 90% of the time and hype moments and aura for the last 10%
desert garnet
the moonlord one was spoiled by them
which means other bosses might also get smth
and imo other bosses dont need much tho anyways
they have enough
torn kite
It doesn't matter if it's a final boss, the game should be consistently good and...
If anyone, duke fishron deserves a resprite much more than moon lord, fishron sprite is damn horrible
Duke fishron or skeletron, but not moonlord
desert garnet
even tho moonlord didnt needed it, tehy just felt why not?
high scaffold
If Im not wrong original moon lord srite was a little rushed
distant raft
why not add the electric chair
twin juniper
This discussion remind me that new twins vanilla ost was 2 years ago
desert garnet
new twins ost is banger
twin juniper
And EoW one is like a year old now
high scaffold
This will probably resprite every old boss
mystic eagle
Duke fishron or skeletron, but not moonlord
This is not your game
torn kite
This is not your game
? Where is this coming from
high scaffold
And as we know, most if not all bosses are gonna get their own soundtracks
white aurora
now wof is gonna have it's own theme pretty much
desert garnet
most bosses will have
white aurora
boss 2 works for wof so well
desert garnet
they just dont wanna spoil everything
mystic eagle
? Where is this coming from
The devs add and show what they want to
high scaffold
Moon lord resprite may also be just one of mamy resprites coming in 1.4.5
desert garnet
im 100% sure not only moonlord will get one
high scaffold
They did resprite terra blade line as well as crimtane and molten ingots before
distant raft
all the trophies are getting resprites
high scaffold
Slowly bringing entire game to modern standarts
distant raft
desert garnet
they also changed the way light works
high scaffold
I hope this will give some love to yoyos and flails
mystic eagle
I like how every trophy except Sprime only had "minor changes"
high scaffold
And spears
desert garnet
vibrant lightning i think its how its called
twin juniper
Santa-nk trophy looking more like Skeletron prime than Skeletron prime trophy 🙏
mystic eagle
true
high scaffold
Not to mention special seed combinations
dull heart
Hi
white aurora
the little Car
dull heart
this is an accuracy meter btw
distant raft
summoner modifiers
hoary edge
debuff strat REAL!!
stark pond
marking Re:Logic's last definitely last should be last this time I can't believe this is the last you'd think that was the last but no, this is positively, concretely the last we took those back, this is the last update
high scaffold
They cant stop and I love it
stone zephyr
im hoping 1.4.5 helps with some performance issues
high scaffold
Remember terraria otherworld and omega early concepts of terraria 2?
Forget it, we got terraria infinity
And all this on pretty much abandoned engine
stark pond
what engine
high scaffold
If they somehow implement a better engine without breaking mods Ill want to buy the game second time
stone zephyr
real
high scaffold
Yes but
stone zephyr
whatever terraria is built on is old and outdated
high scaffold
Its based on xna
stone zephyr
and doesnt utilize hardware efficiently
high scaffold
It is basicaly a C#
They could switch to never C#
But that would be realy not easy
stark pond
the framework terraria based on is definitely old and unmaintained for 12 years
high scaffold
With a lot of bugs
stark pond
which is insane for a game based on that to survive that long
but the ground up is built on that old framwork you can't switch that
that would require a total game rewrite (kill all the devs)
high scaffold
And its way to far to switch
All of the mods would have to be rewritten too
It would be minecrafts great mod depression all over again
stark pond
even adding something for performance like multithreading would still need them to rewrite a major part of something they have built upon
stark pond
luckily this game is dirt cheap in resource requirement given the price of (terraria) playable hardware are now really really cheap
stone zephyr
still getting microstutters though 
stark pond
it's what you have to take tho
dull heart
how on earth did they manage cross platform that's my question
high scaffold
One thing I would very like to see is updated main menu
dull heart
I do wonder if they like
stark pond
for now i can say after like a few more updates w11 requirement will be higher than that required to play terraria
dull heart
Rewrote a ton of the net code and jnternals
tropic jolt
one day Terraria 2 will be real
dull heart
no
white aurora
one day Terraria 2 will be real
terraria otherworld
dull heart
give us terraria Otherworld PLEASE
tropic jolt
Terraria 2 the othering
stark pond
why was otherworld cancelled tho
tropic jolt
it sucked
stone zephyr
i hope they somehow managed to optimize things
one of the terraria devs was asked if they were working on performance and they gave an answer "lets say no" so i hope it really is changing something for the better
pseudo vector
i honestly don't remember why they canned it
dull heart
why was otherworld cancelled tho
It didn't live up to their standards
pseudo vector
they released the ost at least cuz scott lloyd shelley finished the whole ost and they still canned it
dull heart
I should make an Otherworld mod that implements what little we know
tropic jolt
I’m glad we have the otherworld music at least
dull heart
they released the ost at least cuz scott lloyd shelley finished the whole ost an...
The OST wasn't done
pseudo vector
there was quite a few tracks tho
dull heart
but they released it as far as it was done
even those tracks weren't finalized
you can tell bc some of them loop really poorly in game right now
and iirc they said that when they added it
tropic jolt
bloons terraria defense 6
rich ginkgo
id personally prefer terraria just rewritten on a new engine for optimization and new content capabilities
i dont really see the need in a sequel for terraria
they’d have to justify a sequel somehow
earnest jewel
That would basically require the effort of a sequel.
rich ginkgo
it’d be worth it
stark pond
that will equate to making 2 terrarias, one is the game and the other is to make sure everything works correctly like what you'd want
for what, nothing
Re:Logic will have to move on from terraria and leave it behind for the community
new content capability there is tmodloader
that is the new content capabilities
aint no indie game dev going to milk a game for eternity if it's already done
native thistle
lost verdania is stuck in my head, help me
rich ginkgo
new content capability there is tmodloader
yeah with a million inconveniences because the game is stuck on a 21 year old engine 😭 😭
earnest jewel
Terraria remake and a new tModloader has to be made and a new engine to learn.
So people keep playing Terraria Uno.
rich ginkgo
terraria uno has always been the true mvp anyways
dull heart
spoiler: I got myself a nice laptop today
earnest jewel
Cool.
uneven fractal
spoiler: I got myself a nice laptop today
what are its specs
dull heart
It's an Acer Swift X 14 Ultra 7 iirc
rich ginkgo
intel core 2
dull heart
whatever that has
uneven fractal
mid but my 1660 ahh can’t be talking
rich ginkgo
mid but my 1660 ahh can’t be talking
that’s not mid what lol
core ultra 7 is a great cpu
rich ginkgo
intel surprisingly did pretty good with their ultra series
wide wadi
I think an RTX 4060, Intel Core Ultra 7
No no no get the rtx 5070 it
That will give you enough Pogs for your money
rich ginkgo
ur not finding a 5070 in a laptop for anything less than $1600
dull heart
I don't think you know what mid is
uneven fractal
I mean midrange
rich ginkgo
16gb ram with a 4060 is the definition of mid
you’ve been watching too much techtok brah
peoples problem with the 4060 is its price to performance
considering he got one in a $500 laptop that’s a great deal
uneven fractal
the message says $500 off
dull heart
no it was $500 off
rich ginkgo
16gb of ram yeah that’s not the most ideal but that’s definitely not a shit laptop 😭
rich ginkgo
no it was $500 *off*
oh
dull heart
it was still $1k
uneven fractal
if it was 500 it would be the deal of a fucking lifetime
rich ginkgo
that’s still not THAT bad
ive seen laptops priced at way worse than that for those kind of specs
wide wadi
ur not finding a 5070 in a laptop for anything less than $1600
No I’m talking about building a pc
Why tf would you get a laptop to game
dull heart
I'm not building a PC so
wide wadi
Bro build your own pc
dull heart
I need a laptop
rich ginkgo
No I’m talking about building a pc
a 5070 costs a grand alone dude 😭 😭
wide wadi
a 5070 costs a grand alone dude 😭 😭
No not on Black Friday
rich ginkgo
laptops have different functions too
wide wadi
It’s going down in price too
rich ginkgo
is it black friday today
dull heart
it's prime day!
wide wadi
is it black friday today
No it’s not it’s in November
rich ginkgo
then there you go
wide wadi
Prime day is ass prices went up
dull heart
black Friday doesn't tend to be much better
wide wadi
The trident rdd5 went up like 20 bucks
uneven fractal
yeah because they inflate the prices beforehand
rich ginkgo
the 5070 is also a pretty shit card abyways
wide wadi
the 5070 is also a pretty shit card abyways
The it
rich ginkgo
if ur gonna build a pc and ur on a budget go amd
dull heart
again keep in mind I'm upgrading from a desktop with a 790 and a laptop with either a 2050 or 3050 (idk which model I had specifically)
wide wadi
$400 more than the 5070 for like a very minuscule performance increase
That’s why you wait for a sale and the card is an improvement
dull heart
Like this is significantly stronger than what I have been using
wide wadi
Just don’t get the 3060 series
dull heart
and from my research, it's a good value
rich ginkgo
just get the 6070 bruh 💔💔
dull heart
just get the 8090 tbh
uneven fractal
js make your own gpu 🥀
rich ginkgo
waiter waiter! one silicon wafer please! 😹
uneven fractal
yummy
wide wadi
i don’t believe you
Trust next week it’s coming out
dusty tinsel
It already came out
uneven fractal
the light operated on gas:
dusty tinsel
I would never do that
uneven fractal
exhibit b
uneven fractal
fascinating
lusty stirrup
gas isn’t real it’s a social construct
agile latch
ive seen laptops priced at way worse than that for those kind of specs
Laptop
Going from a laptop to a proper pc was one of the best things i did 
(My laptop just stayed on my desk without moving.. so there wasnt much reason to it)
Bad piggy wip..
azure oak
the hog
agile latch
Horrible hog
dull heart
now we just need a slingshot that uses birds as ammo
azure oak
should hover towards you through everything and kill on contact
dull heart
finch staff slingshot
azure oak
hog guardian
agile latch
After thinking about this and some stuff i talked with xykuser while doing the test playthrough
Blood moon mosquito enemy 
real axle
Bad piggy wip..
shimp armour
hushed hazel
proud plover
Blood moon mosquito enemy <:Nefarious:1155389913479516230>
Ooohh
rugged goblet
Going from a laptop to a proper pc was one of the best things i did <:amithaba:7...
I can imagine
My laptop can‘t run any Infernum boss without lagging
And shits itself on bosses with many effects, so that means everything post-Moon Lord except for DoG
terse dew
vivid trench
Gaming laptops are the worst
They're pretty convenient but they are so expensive, and repairing them costs a fortune
wide wadi
They're pretty convenient but they are so expensive, and repairing them costs a ...
Just build a pc
vivid trench
Just build a pc
Oh i do have a p of the c
wide wadi
I can imagine
My laptop can‘t run any Infernum boss without lagging
And *shits i...
Bruh on my Mac I can even run calamity without frame skip and everything on low
rugged goblet
I have to:
Turn BG off
Use black BG while bossfight mod (so no DoG BG 🥀)
Second lowest to fourth lowest res available
Zoom mod (so I can see uh…anything. Which synergizes horrible with the Black BG mod since it isn‘t zoomed along)
And the FPS still reaches as low as 30 on Exo Mechs and Calamitas
Which is why I just gave up on those
Uni starts soon anyways
And I am starting to build a PC of my own
vivid trench
Test the absolute and install catalyst
wide wadi
Which is why I just gave up on those
Uni starts soon anyways
How your uni not start yet
vivid trench
wide wadi
I’m in class rn
wide wadi
It starts next week, but off topic
Okay so let’s both build a pc this year
Then we can play all the mods
rugged goblet
I can finally play Terraria! Yay!
(YES IT ALSO LAGGED ON VANILLA TERRARIA BRO WHAT THE FUCK EVEN)
wide wadi
(YES IT ALSO LAGGED ON VANILLA TERRARIA BRO WHAT THE FUCK EVEN)
I get that too
stone zephyr
And I am starting to build a PC of my own
if you want tmodloader performance focus on a good cpu and ram specifically
wide wadi
if you want tmodloader performance focus on a good cpu and ram specifically
Im going for a Ryzen and a ddr5 ram
Will that work
stone zephyr
sounds good but depends what cpu
wide wadi
Ddr5 of 16 gb x 2
dull heart
32 gb ram is more then enough yea
8gb is usually enough since tmodloader has a hard cap iirc
CPU is where most of the saves will be
azure oak
calamity mod
stone zephyr
8gb is usually enough since tmodloader has a hard cap iirc
would allowing tmod to use more ram improve performance though?
wish it was able to ngl
especially if it would help microstutters
agile latch
I can imagine
My laptop can‘t run any Infernum boss without lagging
And *shits i...
Worst part is that
You cant really do a upgrade on them easily
Mine was "good" at the beggining but in like 3 years jt began to rot and get really slow
thorny glacier
calamity mod
orespawn mod
azure oak
no
thorny glacier
yes
azure oak
❌
thorny glacier
as well as changelogs tomorrow
thorny glacier
as well as changelogs tomorrow
✅
dusk bronze
🙂↕️
thorny glacier
tomorrow will be great if you believe hard enough
earnest jewel
Maybe a change may log if he loses someone he loves.
thorny glacier
or maybe a change will surrender and diverge to the path of evil and cast a curse of changelogfolly deities onto the world
earnest jewel
C.H.A.N.G.E.L.O.G.
thorny glacier
C.H.A.N.G.E.L.O.G.S. T.O.M.O.R.R.O.W.
rugged goblet
if you want tmodloader performance focus on a good cpu and ram specifically
Yee
thorny glacier
C.H.A.N.G.E.L.O.G.S. T.O.M.O.R.R.O.W.
…are the final words spoken during end times
azure oak
eating bricks for fun
dusk bronze
true
thorny glacier
try eating molten metal! so delicious 😋
azure oak
you will be next
thorny glacier
oh rotten fudge 😞
azure oak
do not dare get involved
reef viper
is anyone else having problems with the vanilla terraria workshop?
for some reason it doen't load anything when i use the searcher
reef viper
Probably not the right place to be asking.
mb, i tought i was on #calamity-mod-talk
brave star
Kiri is the best sacrifice material
dusk bronze
true
dusk bronze
truer
hard copper
The more you wait, the more content you get
viral merlin
Yeah but like
Long waits are still not good
There's a line between taking reasonably long and
TOO long
As a side note
Add a sack weapon
Like drifter's
trail oriole
Yeah but like
Uuu guys gotta understand there were like
😪 4 different incidents that killed any momentum
And then school started and summer ended etc
The update will come were honeslty like
earnest jewel
Tomorrow, trust.
trail oriole
4 enemies behind? I checked and the rest are a handful of tiles and bgs etc
rich ginkgo
it helps to actually have hobbies and something else to do other than wait for sso like ur life depends on it 😭 😭
not the only game out there
trail oriole
Ill speak more about how progress went after the update is done but its been, quite the mess 💔
agile latch
4 enemies behind? I checked and the rest are a handful of tiles and bgs etc
ye
biggest walls rn i think arer the 3 horses in the room
finishing Desert scourge, king clam and cnidrion
dusk bronze
are the scourge nests still not going well
dull heart
Ill speak more about how progress went after the update is done but its been, qu...
yea
earnest jewel
Hey, only Cnidrion's a horse!
viral merlin
😪 4 different incidents that killed any momentum
Oh no I know
What I'm saying is that being positive and taking your time is obviously understandable and fair
But some people take it to the extreme and say that it doesn't matter how long it takes and whatnot, which is just not true
earnest jewel
therefore, horse
Excuse me, Plato.
viral merlin
Because if things take TOO long, then everyone will just start getting impatient and accuse or flame the developers for not doing their work, it'll just kill all the hype and shit
earnest jewel
Because if things take TOO long, then everyone will just start getting impatient...
They'd do that no matter how long it took. Day one after the update people will be complaining about starting the next one.
agile latch
are the scourge nests still not going well
were they not going well?
trail oriole
All devs havent been jumping with happiness to finish something but
agile latch
well they still need proper ambient tiles and concept art, but there is no issue with them?
viral merlin
They'd do that no matter how long it took. Day one after the update people will ...
True, but overtime it'll just grow into a larger crowd
agile latch
specifically
trail oriole
hoping to get there
dusk bronze
were they not going well?
i heard it's been a bit of a roadblock
agile latch
not really
dusk bronze
oh cool
trail oriole
well they still need proper ambient tiles and concept art, but there is no issue...
So like, everything
agile latch
the nest specifically, i think
agile latch
So like, everything
i mean the nest specifically has 0, but yea
trail oriole
Its been an empty pit lole, so like
trail oriole
There’s not been any roadblocks persay but
viral merlin
Its not the silksong type of wait i can prob like
Oh it's definitely not
Now that fab is off the radar, I'm sure the productivity has been booming
dull heart
Scourge den doesn't have any problems
it also doesn't have any progress
dull heart
Oh it's definitely not
Now that fab is off the radar, I'm sure the productivity ...
ehh
trail oriole
Oh it's definitely not
Now that fab is off the radar, I'm sure the productivity ...
🥹 no
agile latch
productivity is the same??
dull heart
the amount of changes programmers do did increase notably
agile latch
dull heart
but most of them are just fixing Fabsol things
viral merlin
Well I mean there's just less shit to deal with now at least
trail oriole
Yeah i mean, work has been better but productivity maybe the same lole
dull heart
Not SSO release required content
trail oriole
I hope the quality has gotten better since fab left and that meant like
agile latch
on bosses surely, but that isnt really a
trail oriole
Actually making concrete plans and iterations for stuff nowww
agile latch
high bar..
dusk bronze
Well I mean there's just less shit to deal with now at least
i think it's more shit bc they're redoing scourge and cnidrion now
agile latch
Actually making concrete plans and iterations for stuff nowww
ye
viral merlin
i think it's more shit bc they're redoing scourge and cnidrion now
Oh yeah that
dull heart
Yeah i mean, work has been better but productivity maybe the same lole
I'd say programmer productivity has increased, just not in any fields critical to release
agile latch
cnidrion was being redone anyway
dusk bronze
oh that reminds me
is slime god resprite still real
agile latch
except now it isnt a fabsulian rework
dull heart
oh that reminds me
is slime god resprite still real
for now yes
dusk bronze
nice
agile latch
desert scourge is the only one that the rework was a addition after the fabsol death
trail oriole
oh that reminds me
is slime god resprite still real
Maybe its not going to be focused on though like, at all
dusk bronze
i just want the new core sprite tbh
dull heart
Yeah slime god is one of the bosses I've been slowly making less fabsol
agile latch
i personally would preffer to do the same thing as the fabsol hell changes, and save the slime god stuff for later
still bluff
😪 4 different incidents that killed any momentum
the skonging...
trail oriole
Any version of the sprite and boss weve made up until now isn’t satisfactory thouhh so
Aha
Death beam for slime god
agile latch
the 2 biome mimics
lapis oak
Yeah slime god is one of the bosses I've been slowly making less fabsol
recently?
still bluff
slime god's happening eventually just like nearly every other boss in the mod 
that is just still an "eventually"
dusk bronze
so no resprite in sso 1?
agile latch
the fated spikes and wings that only exist for the first part of the fight, after it its just 2 biome mimics again
(the core do nothing too)
viral merlin
Better than never 😼
still bluff
what if we gave core a permanent deathray
dusk bronze
true
still bluff
then it could do something
rich ginkgo
Any version of the sprite and boss weve made up until now isn’t satisfactory tho...
i bought that game yesterday
pretty cool
agile latch
true
dull heart
the fated spikes and wings that only exist for the first part of the fight, afte...
no
we just removed the splitting part
so they exist the whole fight
dull heart
oh yeah
still bluff
whatttt you removed the 4 biome mimics phase
dull heart
I unfabsoled that part of it
dusk bronze
is anyone able to confirm if the resprite is in sso part 1 still
dull heart
it is currently yes
dusk bronze
👍
vivid hemlock
the shiny round paladins supposedly made of disgusting gunk 🥹
dull heart
fabsol never actually used branches
dusk bronze
will it stay? who knows
you could say the plans
aren't solid
like slime
dull heart
so if he ever did anything it was straight to the main branch
agile latch
dull heart
yes
dusk bronze
jesus christ how did y'all do anything before 25
dull heart
He also didn't even test his changes in game before pushing them
dusk bronze
BWU
valid crypt
Wah
dull heart
once one of his crabulon attacks caused crab to just ascend to the sky forever
dusk bronze
because he's the perfect one
valid crypt
Fucking raptures itself 
agile latch
the fated skeletron dash
dull heart
crabture
agile latch
in dev skeletron is so broken on mp it keeps dashing up to the sky eternaly
earnest jewel
Obviously he was enlightened designing these bosses.
dusk bronze
gravitational pull
vivid hemlock
fabsolian code
dusk bronze
valid crypt
fabsolian code
Yeah
earnest jewel
Skeletron Prime does not care for the laws of the game.
dull heart
like when prime could combine players in multiplayer
valid crypt
What?
dusk bronze
what.
valid crypt
What does that mean
earnest jewel
I knew that thing was made for war crimes but I didn't think it stitched people together.
lapis oak
isn't that still in the game
valid crypt
???
vivid hemlock
like when prime could combine players in multiplayer
yep
dull heart
isn't that still in the game
no I don't think so
vivid hemlock
bountiful harvest sprime 🥹
lapis oak
there're so many SPrime multi bugs
vivid hemlock
multiplayer code goes crazy
agile latch
how does prime get stuck on planetoids he goes through tiles
dash bug
dull heart
I have decided dropping spoilers when nobody is online to see them is cool
earnest jewel
Only thing better than Skeletron lore is Skeletron bug lore.
agile latch
he was super buggy when i was doing the test playthrough
his ai just turn off sometimes
like i was playing with enamoured user, he just
dull heart
out of battery
dull heart
replace his AA's
dusk bronze
multiplayer code goes crazy
oh yeah vanillin i was gonna tell you the sso npc and armor progression charts in the future doc are slightly outdated
also no bad piggy or pumpkin bomb
agile latch
idk if prime is still broken on mp though, that playthrough was a few months ago
valid crypt
The souls of fright fell asleep cause they pulled an allnighter and havent slep since two days ago
earnest jewel
The robot's probably old, needs to see a mechanic.
agile latch
base skeletron is still janded though
vivid hemlock
oh yeah vanillin i was gonna tell you the sso npc and armor progression charts i...
bad piggy is there
dusk bronze
looking into this
vivid hemlock
it was added almost immediately
earnest jewel
LET'S GO!
valid crypt
Os the pig green
earnest jewel
(I have not checked that document in a while.)
dull heart
did you get what Halley does there yet
earnest jewel
Os the pig green
Think so.
earnest jewel
Stop doing that.
dusk bronze
it was added almost immediately
oh it's at the very bottom under a large separation
earnest jewel
It's a bad sign.
dusk bronze
and is exactly one sentence
earnest jewel
"Bad Piggy is real."
valid crypt
I havent tried eating one yet
earnest jewel
Don't.
earnest jewel
Don't!
valid crypt
Why
earnest jewel
Stop eating things that aren't food!?
dusk bronze
Stop eating things that aren't food!?
literally 1984
dull heart
what if I told you Halley's Inferno is a Mario Galaxy reference
earnest jewel
That's pica or something, I don't know, I'm not a doctor.
dull heart
Super Mario Sniper Flamethrower
valid crypt
Yeah im diagnosed with that i think
earnest jewel
Well that explains a lot.
valid crypt
what if I told you Halley's Inferno is a Mario Galaxy reference
I havent played galaxy so i wouldnt know
valid crypt
Well that explains a lot.
vivid hemlock
oh it's at the very bottom under a large separation
with careful consideration i believe its not enough
i have improved it
earnest jewel
Did you make the separation bigger?
vivid hemlock
thats for you to find out
earnest jewel
Peak.
agile latch
time to go work on sanguinesquito, blood moon active weapon and blood moon armor
(will work on some comm stuff first though.. so it will take a while)
the blood moon economy
agile latch
got a new ideia for blood moon armor i was talking with xykuser.. will sprite it first (on how the bonus work)
its similarish to current though
lapis oak
with careful consideration i believe its not enough
DoG's drops reworks are still missing
vivid hemlock
don care
agile latch
but its more vanilla friendly on thematic and stuff
dull heart
before actually changing anything make sure that it gets discussed in weapons and gear
(for functional changes)
agile latch
<:aga:1384661278810837083> time to go work on sanguinesquito, blood moon active ...
blood moon active weapon where its a bug zapper (the mosquito electric rackets), with right click you spawn sanguine squitos at the cost of your own life that hit enemies and absorb their blood, with left click you do a little melee holdout swing with the racket, that let you kill your sanguinesquitos and absorb the blood they collected as healing (so you get paid back the life you used to spawn them..), might see with xykuser to work on it with them
dusk bronze
with careful consideration i believe its not enough
you didn't update the npcs chart
earnest jewel
What are you, a cop?
vivid hemlock
you didn't update the npcs chart <:wires:1126556862070915214>
wat
dusk bronze
buh
fathom girder
how does prime get stuck on planetoids he goes through tiles
Those spikes get stuck it's complicated
it's embarrassing for him too don't bring it up when prime's around alright
vivid hemlock
buh
this is such a minute change i dont think it really matters if i have to be honest
dusk bronze
alr
vivid hemlock
i can wait until the next enemy gets added to the chart then the wip will be included too
teal bone
vivid hemlock
fantastic
hexed basalt
hard copper
Like if Silva x Xeroc is canon?
and xeroc put terminus in the abyss so silva could protect it!
earnest jewel
and xeroc put terminus in the abyss so silva could protect it!
How is she protecting it, she's currently blended.
tropic jolt
yharim is with mutant
fierce hearth
vivid hemlock
dusk bronze
the creature
halcyon seal
👁️
tropic jolt
return to slime
earnest jewel
What if instead of Slime God it was Crime God and he made you sleep with the fishes.
tropic jolt
wrath of the cement bricks
halcyon seal
brine god
hard copper
mime god
dull heart
dime god
halcyon seal
lime god
dusk bronze
fine god
halcyon seal
pantomime god
dull heart
mr. mime god
slate folio
why are they adding tobias to calamity mod
vivid hemlock
what
halcyon seal
why are you so judgmental towards robert
fathom girder
That pig lookin' like the etruscan boar
fringe quiver
<:aga:1384661278810837083> time to go work on sanguinesquito, blood moon active ...
oh is snaguinesquito a new blood moon enemy creaturoid
slate folio
what type of comment is this
vivid hemlock
oh is snaguinesquito a new blood moon enemy creaturoid
check the hog section
i want your opinion on my changes
halcyon seal
where tf is the hog on doc
earnest jewel
What are the lore implications of the hog?
agile latch
dusk bronze
where tf is the hog on doc
very bottom of lesser npcs
vivid hemlock
wide wadi
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395549885150924850/1399437771453632614/a...
almost done with my engineering assiment
halcyon seal
What are the lore implications of the hog?
we can determine that pigs exist in calamity
what does this mean for yharim's plots?
earnest jewel
what does this mean for yharim's plots?
More food for the soldiers.
halcyon seal
glorious
vivid hemlock
earnest jewel
This is horrifying.
slate folio
rename sunken sea overhaul to tobias update
violet bobcat
😐
halcyon seal
vivid hemlock
Kris, as you know, Noelle has a very special attack
earnest jewel
Can't wait for Yharim to demonstrate their ability to use Blue Attacks.
(You have to stop moving.)
fringe quiver
Terrarian, as you know, during 3 AM the Horrible hog can spawn
agile latch
@fringe quiver there is not going to be a coral turban vanity set added
fringe quiver
<@1039460813490102293> <:gulpsplosion:1204876496179568732> there is not going to...
Didn't you literally say it yourself or was taht scrapped
agile latch
its just the victide coral helmet..
fringe quiver
The coral turban from current victide repurposed as a vanity
agile latch
that will be available as a vanity
agile latch
brave star
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141936516311023726/1247993376914276374/a...
Almighty creechur
brave star
I like the calamity zoglin