#calamity-update-talk

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dull heart
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but he'll be one of the last things done probably

kindred night
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we arent the calamity mod in terraria we are the discord

dull heart
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Ultimate Calamitas

misty wren
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the calamity

neat field
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what if yharim is the scarlet king

kindred night
fickle seal
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I think it's still in the plans that there will be a biome dedicated to him that will serve as the prelude to his fight

dull heart
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Maybe the real yharim is the gods we genocided along the way

misty wren
neat field
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yharim actually isn't very scarlet

stiff crescent
lyric trellis
neat field
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i personally think we should just let calamitas have it

kindred night
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draedon is mekhane

dull heart
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obviously everything I say is confirmed

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that's why I'm orange

prisma cipher
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Yup

misty wren
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the orange virus

lyric trellis
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Everything Invoked Stargod

neat field
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everything orange people say is always correct clueless

dull heart
misty wren
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but yeah yharim being scarlet king doesnt work even thematically

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if anyone would be scarlet king itd be noxus

neat field
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permafrost is the scarlet king

dull heart
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post KS anvil kinda goes hard though

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We are the scarlet king

neat field
stiff crescent
dull heart
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You can ask reb and she can't deny it

misty wren
neat field
dull heart
lyric trellis
stiff crescent
lyric trellis
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Better than Wolves Terraria edition

dull heart
white aurora
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slime

dull heart
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make KS balanced around surface gear

misty wren
dull heart
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make surface gear unique and interesting

prisma cipher
neat field
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make wof balanced around pre-plantera gear

lyric trellis
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Lead core from acid rai

misty wren
dull heart
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and make merchant sell anvil post KS while requiring an anvil to craft an anvil

lyric trellis
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Genius

dull heart
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I still need to make anvils not naturally generate though

kindred night
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i like how the cn and jp scp branches use kabbalah stuffs as esoteric classes

dull heart
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I haven't done that part yet

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I should replace every anvil with uhh

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idk

neat field
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make iron only spawn post-skeletron

stiff crescent
neat field
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after you open six shadow chests and/or three dungeon chests

dull heart
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caustic croaker staff my beloved

stiff crescent
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who actually comes up with these names tho

misty wren
stiff crescent
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cragmaw mire funny as hell

dull heart
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well anyway I need to stop procrastinating

stiff crescent
dull heart
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it's time to watch the season finale of dress up darling s2 and be sad it's over

stiff crescent
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to shoot brimstone

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allow the caustic croaker staff to be enchanted

neat field
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cragmaw mire, golden swan song, leaves wand, petra grimance

misty wren
neat field
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family guy

stiff crescent
white aurora
white aurora
neat field
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devs please add exhumed microwave

hard copper
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macrowave!

misty wren
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oven

white aurora
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michaelwave

neat field
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michael's oven

stiff crescent
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let us enchant a fishing rod

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that allows us to summon scal

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by fishing

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and it summons 5 at a time on a golden rod

misty wren
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why is it called oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

stiff crescent
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i dont remember it ingame

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and i played less than a month ago

misty wren
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doze just does shit when hes bored

dull heart
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it just explodes once and kills itself rn

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no glowy outline and no jump and being able to explode again

dull heart
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like make Virid Vanguard peak

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I had a cool idea for sun spirit staff but then I tried it and it wasn't possible to do what I wanted exactly

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and even if it was it low-key sucked

stiff crescent
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is the gambling gun an addon

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i dont remember

dull heart
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Seven's striker? No

stiff crescent
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yeah thats really underpowered

dull heart
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okay anyway bye for real it's time to go be sad that my show is ending

fickle seal
lyric trellis
stiff crescent
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well this chat died

prisma cipher
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Or you can just delete it

stiff crescent
white aurora
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challenge me in green mode...

prisma cipher
frail tapir
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Nobody knows when updates are coming out, right?

frail tapir
dull heart
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The old one dies when it explodes

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is the main difference

agile latch
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imagine animating gulp.. (wip)

frail tapir
agile latch
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idk why he has some weird pixel things going on his border..

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problably layer curse?

dull heart
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there's also a few other differences in how the timer works, the fact it has the green outline, and also it now angles the gore towards the enemy

agile latch
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but not now

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for acid rain update

agile latch
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i think it will be more of a visual one than function though

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like better explosion vfx and new sprite

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to go with the enemy rework

dull heart
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yeah it's basically reworked into what it will be already

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it's just a visual overhaul with acid rain

frail tapir
dull heart
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I haven't added the last part because I didn't wanna do the needed IL / On edits

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to interact with summon target setting

frail tapir
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Too much leak that I was excited about, but what about sunken sea?

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Still in progress?

dull heart
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but that would honestly probably take like 15 minutes

agile latch
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mmyes well if it were to be reworked maybe it could inherit the bird carrying behaviour in a funny way, but i think it would be kind of overcomplicating the sentry

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this weapon fall more into the very simple function wise, but make up for it in neat vfx (when acid rain update happens)

dull heart
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yeah I think that would be overcomplicating something that works well as is

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unless the whip jump is replaced with bird carry

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that could work

proud plover
frail tapir
proud plover
frail tapir
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I only have 1 thing to say, give us our aerialite whip

dull heart
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no

frail tapir
still bluff
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we're never adding whips they've all been cancelled
instead we will be adding slime puppet staff clones across all tiers of the game

frail tapir
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Helium flash rework?

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Ok maybe I should stop with all of my questions, sorry guys

agile latch
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fish whip

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(real confirmed)

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or well undead fish whip

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need to sprite it..

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pre boss whip you get on timeless shores that has a bit of a special function compared to normal whips

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its p much a undead eel/ long fish you whip around until it get dizzy, when it get dizzy it will puke brimstone bile at your cursor direction. then you repeat the cycle

frail tapir
lapis oak
agile latch
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creature

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(ingame he wont be biting all the time, he will like loop with mouth closed like 2 times, then do bite)

unborn aspen
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i feel like the legs should maybe move back and forth a little more, it doesn’t look a lot like its walking so much as just waving them around ..

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i mean idk it might look fine ingame

cinder hearth
frail tapir
hoary edge
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smol fishron 🙂

agile latch
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its just green coral color gulp

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this do remind me i will need to animate all the other variants.. but thankfully its mostly head crest and fin switching

hoary edge
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blahaj fishron my beloved CalSmug

hard hearth
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tiny...

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pet him

arctic cliff
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Wait how is cnidarian going to work

lean relic
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Is this "cnidarian" Cnidrion

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Just be making sure

spark kiln
lean relic
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ughrbej confusing names
So it's that fishing pole weapon

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I heard that weapon is getting rebalanced

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better ask doze about it if he appeared again

tribal isle
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are they gonna add a astral infection shrinking mechanic once you kill both astrum deus and aureus

dusk bronze
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that sounds completely pointless

tribal isle
dusk bronze
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no?

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it's bing chilling

tribal isle
dusk bronze
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use that

tribal isle
hoary edge
lean relic
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It doesn't spread

vivid hemlock
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i love enemy variationn

vivid hemlock
craggy aurora
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Any changes to plague related things?

plush carbon
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Yeah half of them are being removed

craggy aurora
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Maybe like a mini biome or smth?

craggy aurora
vivid hemlock
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thats it

craggy aurora
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I think that’s enough for me

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I feel like a plague biome would be enough cause plague kinda feels underutilised

real axle
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There's a song on HeartsUpPlus' channel that's called plagued jungle theme or something, maybe it's getting added

vivid hemlock
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that was for ccr

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iirc

real axle
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Yeah, you're right

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mb

vivid hemlock
craggy aurora
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What about uelibloom? What is that a placeholder for/what will it be replaced with?

vivid hemlock
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its gonna be nuked

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either replaced or just gone

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by some profaned related material

craggy aurora
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Why was it added in the first place?

vivid hemlock
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it was added years ago

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before the new plans existed

craggy aurora
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How many years?

vivid hemlock
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idk atleast 4

pseudo vector
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uelibloom is really old

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idk how old

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its just really old

real axle
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Uelibloom is really weird since, with chlorophyte and perenial, it's the third plant-related ore in the game, and it doesn't feel particularly unique overall

pseudo vector
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that was always smth i had a bit of an issue with in regards to it

fringe quiver
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if you count armorsets that don't have their own ore/bar there's FOUR nature plant themed sets in the game

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isn't that wonderful !

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chlorophyte, perennial, uelibloom, silva

pseudo vector
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once we get the chance to make it not plant based it should be fine

fringe quiver
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arguably five if you count terra but that one's debatable

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waiter waiter more green plant sets

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ngl the entire idea of giving terra it's own set is so lame to begin with but that's another story.....

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atleast the gear it does get is pretty cool functionally but i really do think it'd be so much better if they had their own aesthethics over just being Guys We Made The Terra Blade Into It's Own Set!

fierce hearth
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uelibloom also contextually doesn't make a lot of sense with its placement. It's more jungle crowding that's spawned by the hallow/hell boss that's supposed to represent a great purging flame. I feel like whatever came after her death would be much better themed around like... blooming life in ashes, rather than Cool Ancient Plant Power

fringe quiver
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I believe the current plan is that uelibloom will be replaced with profaned themed gear but dont quote me on that

fierce hearth
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I'd really like it if whatever comes from her is representative of the life she was suppressing allowed to flourish rather than something about her specifically, since we already have cosmic and auric armor for "god power armor"

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It'd also make her lore have an actual felt presence, considering atm her lore is largely irrelevant to the actual game

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She's just kind of there with no reason why

fringe quiver
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I mean that can be said to basically everything in re garding to lore right now to be honest

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lore implementation is largely unexistent

fierce hearth
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That's true, though I feel like she's one of the most egregious examples

earnest jewel
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In game, she's getting vengeance on you for killing her girlfriends. Now I'm imagining her having a chance to ambush you at random.

fierce hearth
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Her girlfriends??

earnest jewel
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The Profaned Guardians.

fierce hearth
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Well why do THEY show up?

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lkfjasdljgnakjfhdg

earnest jewel
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They sense your power and are hunting you to appease their girlfriend.

fierce hearth
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lmfao

fringe quiver
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also i think it's less so god power armor and more so literally the armor that they wore before ascending

earnest jewel
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You did just kill the space squid thing.

fringe quiver
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iirc the plan is for the set to have 3 variations based of the commander, healer and uhhh third guy

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forgot her name the third one

earnest jewel
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Defender.

fringe quiver
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yep that one

real axle
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Wait, that sounds really cool wth

fierce hearth
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I do kind of get the idea that the Moon Lord was basically "ruling" over the planet and all the other gods were kind of off doing their own thing so when you killed the Lunar God they were all like "huh what's happening" and started sniffing around for this new fangled godslayer

fringe quiver
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moon lord ain't really a god

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nor was he really ruling anything

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he's just kinda cracked

earnest jewel
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Moon Lord was a space conqueror if anything.

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And the gods showed up after.

fringe quiver
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dude who was sealed away in the moon for 3000 gorillion years after singlehandedly almost destroying society shows up out of nowhere and then Some Guy just takes it down

fierce hearth
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< hasn't done her lore deep dives clearly

fringe quiver
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It's bond to get the attention of the world

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Even if moon lord is Severely weakened

fierce hearth
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they fucking ripped his organs out and he just grew new ones

earnest jewel
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Moon Lord lore:
Shows up.
Kills dragons.
Gets sealed on the moon for 850 years.
Comes back.
Dies.

craggy aurora
fringe quiver
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moon lord grindset is insane

craggy aurora
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Since sets are no longer gonna be for all 5 classes anymore

fierce hearth
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if only he grew his legs back in those 900 years, he'd have easily beaten us, but he was unfortunately busy reconstituting his brain

fringe quiver
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show up. almost kill all of the dragons. too strong to be killed, get sealed away.
years later someone breaks your seal. immediately deploy your weird fuckin alien towers to continue Conquer Earth plan. you show up. guy who broke your seal is there. throw hands with them. no questions asked, just immediately beat the shit out of them

earnest jewel
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He didn't have that long. If he did, Terrarian is FINISHED!

real axle
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Healer armour should be for the healer classclueless

fringe quiver
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yeah and then you just fucking die

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no tactical retreat to try again later or anything

earnest jewel
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Even the timeline where he won the fight he died.

craggy aurora
fringe quiver
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it works by playing multiplayer 🙏

earnest jewel
craggy aurora
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Where’s the damage output for solo?

fringe quiver
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(idfk lmao

real axle
fringe quiver
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the entire concept of a class basically built for multiplayer is so bizzare to me

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specially when i think the majority of the community plays terraria on singleplayer

fierce hearth
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Okay but while you say "he's not a god" what you're saying is that dragons couldn't kill him and then this fucking chump shows up and says "no no no, he's not going to get off that easy" and invites him back to beat him to death where the dragons couldn't

earnest jewel
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God has a definition in Calamity.

craggy aurora
earnest jewel
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Moon Lord doesn't qualify.

craggy aurora
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Except me I’m built different

earnest jewel
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Unless he found a space dragon at some point.

fringe quiver
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you'd expect moon lord to be a bit more thankful to the person who broke their seal

fierce hearth
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so he didn't have an auric soul, whatever, he's on a similar power scale

fringe quiver
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but nah just throw hands with them immediately fuck it we ball

fringe quiver
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No yeah he's like alot stronger than almost all of them

earnest jewel
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Well, except for one.

fringe quiver
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except like xeroc but he's. he's xeroc

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built different.

earnest jewel
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And gods have Godly Souls, not Auric Souls, which are more unstable.

fringe quiver
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moon lord is Severely weakened by the time you fight him

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which uh, you can tell based on the

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missing half of his body and brain thing

earnest jewel
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He has a hole in his brain.

craggy aurora
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Gods should not call themselves gods

mystic eagle
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Moonlord does have its brain though

craggy aurora
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If we can kill them

uneven fractal
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his ribcage is not protecting his heart

craggy aurora
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Every god is a fraud or a potential man

hushed hazel
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i got news for you chief

earnest jewel
uneven fractal
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it’s useless

fringe quiver
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when he Wasn't like that he singlehandedly almost took down Dragon society and i'm pretty sure he'd wipe the floor with like every single character except xeroc

hushed hazel
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plenty of irl mythological gods have died

fierce hearth
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do you think the dragons all got together and ripped his legs apart like starving piranhas

earnest jewel
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Some were probably busy being dead.

fringe quiver
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Everything else and yeah

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Prime moon lord is mogging them

earnest jewel
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Unless it's 3k dragons.

fierce hearth
craggy aurora
earnest jewel
craggy aurora
craggy aurora
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Is 6000 dragons

fringe quiver
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I mean all things cosnidered Dragons had greatly varying power levels so are we talking like

craggy aurora
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Could 6000 dragons beat xeroc?

earnest jewel
craggy aurora
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Fuck

fringe quiver
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plantera level dragons or the stronger ones that would probably be like late post moon lord

earnest jewel
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Yharon and Zeratros.

fringe quiver
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i dont think it took 3000 dragons to seal moon lord anyways

fierce hearth
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Xeroc could probably just unmake the world and you'd be left playing blockless skyblock

fringe quiver
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he can't do that

craggy aurora
fringe quiver
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well unless you mean like

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just destroying the world

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which like maybe

earnest jewel
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I mean... Throw the sun at Terraria.

fierce hearth
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that's what I meant, just putting it in game terms

craggy aurora
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How many feats do I gotta have

earnest jewel
fringe quiver
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he's not really like a omnipotent creator deity if that's what you meant but yeah he could destroy alot

craggy aurora
fringe quiver
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this shoudl probably

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move to lore talk

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not very spoilerous and quite loreous

earnest jewel
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True.

craggy aurora
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Umatched power of sirius a

misty wren
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and would actually be the oldest stuff still in the mod if it werent for galactus blade

earnest jewel
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We still got good old Yharon for our old representation.

misty wren
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yharon is still younger than biofusillade

misty wren
earnest jewel
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Yeah but that got resprites in 2019, while Yharon was in 2017.

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If we're going by real age, Desert Scourge wins.

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And everything in 1.0.

misty wren
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i was mostly going off functionality

dusk bronze
earnest jewel
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Peak.

mystic eagle
wooden blade
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draedon creator's rotting corpse: i'm mold!

white aurora
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Permafrost: I'm cold!

uneven fractal
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this text: im bold

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paper: im fold

round herald
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Phase 2 Yharon: I'm gold!

kindred night
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minishark: i'm sold!

stiff light
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draedon: im old!

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wait this was already done

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im going to lobotomise an elephant

earnest jewel
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BOHLDOHR: I ROLLED!

thorny fjord
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Silva: I growed!

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Anyway, back to spoilers

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It's hard for me to get the channel back on track as I'm the bug guy so I don't really do changes but:
Spoiler, all calamity ranger sets after cultist have ammo conservation next update

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Massive huge game changing

late eagle
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RANGER CLASS W

thorny fjord
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Oh wait, I guess technically not all post cultist as I didn't do lunar corps. I can look into it

earnest jewel
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Oh, that's cool.

thorny fjord
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As every vanilla ranger set after hallowed has it built in, so it was weird no calamity sets had it

dull heart
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This reminds me

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Have we given all the post ml armors one sentry slot yet

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for summoner

thorny fjord
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No, it was too big of a balance issue in the past

dull heart
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There's like 3 notable sentries I think it'll be fine

thorny fjord
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If the rebalance changes that we can look into it, but it was explicitly denied a bit ago

dull heart
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ah

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well that just leaves Stardust in a super problematic state then

thorny fjord
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But we could hold a democracy vote

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As that way we get more than like 5 responses

dull heart
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might just have to wait for The Summoner Meeting at that point

thorny fjord
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That'd be a good time to bring it up yeah

white aurora
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i never noticed lmao

thorny fjord
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Yeah, I don't believe a single calamity set had any chance to save ammo

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Based on vanilla precedent that isn't super abnormal before hallowed, but after hallowed literally every set has it

white aurora
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none of the post ML ones do but hydrothermic does

white aurora
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that makes more sense now

lyric trellis
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Carrion and spikecrag in the corner

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Well spikecrag already benefits with stardust for provi

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Maybe it’d become a yharon killer

pseudo pine
pseudo pine
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cant wait for ravager rework

dull heart
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can't wait for 2.1 mini ravager rework

pseudo pine
hoary edge
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perhaps

dusk bronze
pseudo pine
vestal osprey
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Ravager will become not shit (easily worst fight in vanilla calamity excluding master mode ai)

versed heart
tiny lark
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I think ravager is just consistently The Worst Fight because it just does nothing it doesn’t even matter what mode you’re playing on

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Even infernum couldn’t make it do something

vestal osprey
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Honestly DoG is a bit overhated, its just boring at worst

dusk bronze
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boring is the worst

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i want to feel something

tiny lark
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boring makes a boss worse to me than bosses that made me rage

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thats why ravager, infyharon, etc

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are lower to me than bosses that openly pissed me off

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because its just… man why am I here

dusk bronze
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infernum wof 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔

tiny lark
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Not because it was hard or anything I just didn’t want to build an arena and didn’t know about Fargo’s at the time

pseudo pine
mystic eagle
dull heart
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dog going from bottom 3 to top 3 bosses in 2.1 woohoo

pseudo pine
fathom girder
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hopefully 2.1 releases...

halcyon seal
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(Maso wof)

pseudo pine
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fargos did it so damn well its hard to beat

cobalt wharf
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eh

pulsar cobalt
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its actually pretty easy to beat it

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step 1 make fargos wof

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step 2 remove the qtes

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done now its better

grave geyser
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How to fix wof: remove wof

pulsar cobalt
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🔥

subtle yacht
tiny lark
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Oh cool a bo- FLAPPY BIRD???

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Fortunately my time spent at arcades was NOT wasted

dull heart
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how to fix wof

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add bullet hell

versed heart
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Make WoF a creation of SCal's lorewise as an excuse to give them Calamitas-style bullethell sections

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(Probably don't)

keen zodiac
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it would be weird since the wall of flesh is the guide

dull heart
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the guide is Scal duh

wicked temple
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peeb

versed heart
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So the first and final town npcs are the same?

lean relic
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wof's dash

wooden fulcrum
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give WoF reverse old duke exhaustion where once every 10 laser shots its invincible for 5 seconds

dusk bronze
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true

tiny lark
plush carbon
dull heart
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it just needs the worms to shoot lasers out of their bodies

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anyway I had a peak idea today

earnest jewel
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Is it turning Wall of Flesh into a worm boss?

dull heart
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no it's not

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it is related to a different worm boss

earnest jewel
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LET'S GO!

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Is it Invoked Stargod?

fathom girder
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probably stormweaver

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even though honestly

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more attention should be given to aquatic scourge tbh...

wide wadi
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i have a great idea how about a trex but it has 30 eyes and they all shoot lasers

earnest jewel
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Calamity devs, hire them.

dusk bronze
dull heart
dull heart
fathom girder
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ah

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okay cool

dull heart
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what i did applies to DS and will probably also have a similar system for AS

fathom girder
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ooooo

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neat

dull heart
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does that imply as is angel slayer

tiny lark
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Infinite worms

frail tapir
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just revamp exalted oath blade

dusk bronze
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and the rest of the line

frail tapir
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oh dang ;-;

dusk bronze
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jarvis get the devil's devastation video

frail tapir
lapis oak
earnest jewel
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Thank you Jarvis.

thorny fjord
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oh, when was the full thing posted?

lapis oak
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erm

dusk bronze
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xyk server a few months ago

earnest jewel
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Xyk server?

lapis oak
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it was in January

dull heart
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he posted it in RAM server i think

lapis oak
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in the RAM server

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xd

dusk bronze
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ah ic

thorny fjord
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oh, I see. I didn't know it was posted in the ram one. Just knew it was posted in the patreon server and also included in the ram devlog

frail tapir
earnest jewel
#

What's the RAM server?

dusk bronze
#

random access mayhem

#

a game

earnest jewel
#

Oh, that game.

dusk bronze
#

that's doing a calamity crossover thing

dull heart
#

shayy get us a deltarune crossover already cmon

dusk bronze
#

true

earnest jewel
#

Make Deltarune players do a Supreme Witch, Calamitas fight, and let us do a Sans boss battle.

dull heart
#

i could make a crossover with invoked stargod mod

dusk bronze
#

truer

earnest jewel
#

True!

lapis oak
#

get us terraria crossover

dusk bronze
#

stupid idea

#

would never work

#

killing you

lapis oak
#

😔

dull heart
#

i can get us a storm weaver mod crossover

dusk bronze
#

truest

remote bay
#

Get a silksong crossover

kindred night
arctic cliff
dull heart
#

rest in peace those tridents

tropic jolt
#

is that the kingsbrand

arctic cliff
wide wadi
wide wadi
hard copper
#

weaver like from hollow knight silksong? coming out on september 4th

keen zodiac
soft panther
#

Is there a planned large update coming soon - sorry if not somone said it was

distant raft
#

yeah

#

sunken sea overhaul part 1 is coming out decently soon

misty wren
#

hopefully

#

its in the works but we dont have really an estimated release date

frail tapir
distant raft
#

something something delayed game rushed game

frail tapir
misty wren
vestal osprey
#

Im just waiting for new changelogs

stuck kite
#

word

vestal osprey
#

My second favorite quote

#

My favorite quote being "yo i never said that shit"

  • Albert Einstein
halcyon seal
wide wadi
#

crabulon exomech

distant raft
#

yharim is near last if not last in the priority bracket

wide wadi
#

i though it was crabulon mech

distant raft
#

the guy who made the world you play in into what it is

wide wadi
distant raft
#

in the last major update to the mod

boreal pewter
wide wadi
distant raft
#

its gonna be a race between sso2 and vanilla 1.4.5

#

aerie update is in a long time

rare tinsel
#

dragon's aerie coming 2035

brave star
halcyon seal
#

aerie is releasing in 2023

pulsar crow
#

Spoiler

pearl sentinel
frail tapir
misty wren
#

what

#

none of those words mean anything on their own and i think they might somehow mean less in this context

stiff light
uncut briar
stiff light
uncut briar
#

no

terse dew
#

what are those

hard copper
#

haha just like the funny vine

cinder hearth
honest solstice
#

If they swap dragonfolly with hive mind/perforators, what about weapons they give? (Especially shadethrower, since I like flamethrowers-only)

inner timber
#

for flamethrowers only in particular you could probably just use dragoon drizzlefish

#

nd just skip the shadethrower inbetween

agile latch
#

there likely will be a new flamethrower (that you can obtain in a diferent manner)

#

in the place

#

to fill its economy place..

inner timber
#

this means that crimson isnt the worse choice for flamethrowers only now*

honest solstice
#

Like after dragonfolly?

analog helm
#

meow

stone zephyr
#

mrrrp

twin bloom
thorny glacier
viral merlin
#

A rushed game is good game

#

A delayed game is bad

#

Rush your games
Don't fix anything

earnest jewel
#

Video games are bad and I hate making them!

viral merlin
#

Release half done product

analog helm
twin bloom
thorny glacier
#

changing logs season starts tomorrow. try not to miss any logs you come across!

viral merlin
#

Loooog

honest solstice
#

Was really worried about this subclass

clear compass
#

When changelogs

#

I need sso

#

I am too hyped

pseudo pine
#

we dont know man

clear compass
#

Overjoyed even

clear compass
dusk bronze
clear compass
#

Fire

#

TOMORROW

thorny glacier
#

as stated previously, the great changing of logs starts tomorrow. what does it mean? it means all lot of great things, like we are more closer to sso release! how exciting does that sound?

earnest jewel
#

Truly, jolly good show.

thorny glacier
#

expected output. but thanks for confirmation!

earnest jewel
#

Indubitably, I await the grand release of the Submerged Reservoir's Renovation and the myriad of improvements that undoubtedly improve the experience of the modification.

fiery wadi
#

red painted crabulon coming next update

honest solstice
#

What is SSO

desert garnet
#

its the next update

#

its very big

#

most likely this year

dusk bronze
#

by far

honest solstice
#

Just wondering, if there will be a way to play older versions of calamity

dusk bronze
#

1.0 and 1.2

#

or you could try getting different old versions from the github archives

#

also wrong chat

jagged abyss
twin bloom
#

Changelogs in 6 fargo hours

frail tapir
#

just rework defiled greatsword and its crafting line ;-;

thorny fjord
#

It was reworked like a year ago

dusk bronze
#

and you responded HDfailure

frail tapir
remote bay
#

When SSO comes out I can finally fulfill my dream of becoming an ideas guy

dense sundial
thorny fjord
#

It's not the most refined, but I don't think it needs much more tbh

#

It doesn't need to be super complex

neat dock
#

I found this in the changelogs; wtf

fathom girder
#

oo

#

that's neat

jagged abyss
oak niche
fathom girder
#

I love finding a random stick

#

and throwing it at people

oak niche
#

I also suggested icicle rod be moved to ice chests so we’ll see if that happens ig

fathom girder
#

that's a vanilla weapon

#

not sure if they're keen on doing too many vanilla changes

oak niche
#

Icicle rod isn’t vanilla

#

Blizzard staff is

fathom girder
#

...oh

oak niche
#

Icicle rod is a pre-boss crafted mage weapon using ice and snow blocks and shiverthorn and probably some boreal wood idk

#

It’s currently really awful but I think a few buffs to its performance and a chance to find it randomly underground could help its niche existence

dull heart
#

I have an idea for Icicle rod

oak niche
#

Good

dull heart
#

but I haven't ever figured out how to make it work well

oak niche
#

It needs it lol

dull heart
#

But know BTD6 Icicles

oak niche
#

YES

#

good shit doze

#

Big fan

dull heart
#

it would make it significantly better at multi target than single target

oak niche
#

Yeah

#

Which is great since snow biome has 0 good AoE options

dull heart
#

but if it's an easy to get pre boss weapon that'd be quite useful yeah

#

Focus not on boss performance but on event performance

oak niche
#

I can see that being tough though since you might need to make icicles internally a debuff in order to attach it to enemies

dull heart
#

it could be done in other ways

#

New Chaos Stone actually lies about using a debuff

#

It draws as if it uses one but it just uses a variable for the stored damage on the NPC

lapis oak
#

Awesome

dull heart
#

actually

#

Currently all Calamity debuffs lie about being debuffs on enemies

#

they apply as one then remove themselves and set a counter variable

#

to bypass the debuff cap

oak niche
#

Amazing

dull heart
#

however 2.1 is removing that due to the fact that 1.4.4 expanded the debuffs to 22 on enemies

#

from like... 5

oak niche
lapis oak
#

22 debuffs hmmm

oak niche
#

When one shot lags the game

dull heart
#

I think it'll be fine

lapis oak
#

Will there ever be a scenario where 22 isn't enough, with debuff timers getting longer

dull heart
#

round 63 has more bloons than you'd ever hit enemies in one hit

oak niche
lapis oak
#

I see

dull heart
#

Maybe with like 3+ players

lapis oak
#

Should be good then

cinder hearth
#

To me at least

#

Then again, I did hear the amalgam is gonna be applying a few in the next rework so

lapis oak
#

What if there's an accessory that decrease direct damage in exchange for increased debuff damage

rare iron
# dull heart But know BTD6 Icicles

Have you seen the new hero, the rime effect would make a cool whip (pun not intended) effect if it caused minions to do the icicles like from a cryogen wepon

uneven fractal
#

no way jfl

#

minecart boss person

native thistle
#

changelogs NEVER

dull heart
#

summoner also naturally inflicts four from Nucleogenesis

#

plus one from whip, and one more for flask

#

free 11 debuffs

lapis oak
#

Old Fashioned but debuff is getting real???

#

🥹 🙏

#

Is it gonna be around hardmode

thorny glacier
dull heart
#

It's more nuanced

oak niche
#

SSO sounds like its gonna make debuffs the best build completely by accident.

dull heart
#

it's no accident

dusk bronze
oak niche
#

;)

dull heart
#

I've been giving some items vanilla-length debuff durations

#

Astralachnea and Plague staff duration matches venom and poison staff now

#

which is a massive buff for debuff builds

tiny lark
#

Debuffmaxxing : D

pulsar cobalt
#

close enough welcome back daybreak

dull heart
#

since Venom staff does 30 seconds of Venom

oak niche
dull heart
#

I did make Halley's Inferno match Elf Melter and Flamethrower's 20 seconds

lapis oak
dull heart
#

but then the Stratus reworks killed that as Voidfrost got changed

lapis oak
#

curious

dull heart
#

also there's some debuffs that scale with multiple types

#

Smashed Evil scales with every type at once, with a minimum multiplier of 1x per type

pulsar cobalt
#

i think there should be a debuff/debuff buffer that makes you deal more damage the more debuffs you have

earnest jewel
#

We can now defeat Calamitas using the best method: lead poisoning.

pulsar cobalt
#

to just insensitive fucking overloading on applying debuffs with a bajillion weapons

dull heart
#

I don't think that needs much more incentives atm

#

it's already really good

#

I may have made an accessory that gigabuffs sickness debuffs sort of

lapis oak
#

hold on now

tiny lark
#

sickness debuffs Hyacine_Hug

#

yahoo

lapis oak
#

already existing acc?

#

or completely new

dull heart
#

yes and no

#

i guess for now yes it already exists

#

but it's like... one accessory is probably gonna split in two

pulsar cobalt
#

corrosive spine?

dull heart
#

No

pulsar cobalt
#

alchemical flask?

cobalt wharf
#

very consistent rulings than kyou vanilla nothoughtsheadempty

tiny lark
#

Beautiful

dull heart
#

one poison dart can have an entire fight of poison

#

I always thought blowpipe was a joke but it's actually just meta

cobalt wharf
#

not always though!!! random 👻

versed heart
hot pebble
# cobalt wharf

I remembered finding poisoned knives and holy arrows in a dead man's chest. In pre-hardmode. Holy arrows, from hardmode.

cobalt wharf
#

those are called freaky fabsol chests

#

they have hardmode items and sticky dynamite for some reason

thorny fjord
dull heart
#

(it's classified as one in the debuff system in calamity)

versed heart
#

it's definitely not a sickness for some enemies (mainly inorganic ones,) though I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean it's not a sickness

dull heart
#

I mean it's literally classified as a Sickness Debuff

hot pebble
cobalt wharf
nova gorge
dull heart
#

yeah Fabsol did that

tiny lark
#

More Progression Breaks Please

earnest jewel
#

Good news.

stiff light
#

tylenol causes autism

fathom girder
#

surely

fossil dew
#

Why did my friend tyler do this

uneven fractal
earnest jewel
#

No, that causes Banjo & Kazooie.

cobalt wharf
#

im declaring war on fat gay kids

earnest jewel
#

That's mean.

uneven fractal
#

no it’s median

dense needle
#

what the hell is going on in this chat

stiff light
dull heart
#

speaking of off topic things

#

Have you ever gotten taco bell and thought "finally some real food"

#

and then realized how sad that thought is

#

asking for a friend

real axle
#

I've never had taco bell

stiff light
#

taco bell in australia is different ive heard

#

i enjoy it

#

and its cheap

dull heart
#

I don't hate taco bell although the meat here is a little questionable

honest solstice
#

As I heard, changelogs soon?

dull heart
#

changelogs when the changes are changed

boreal edge
remote bay
#

Why don’t we close our eyes and think of what the devs are doing

wide wadi
dull heart
#

by shift right clicking the item in your inventory

earnest jewel
#

They should make a gun that shoots forwards and backwards at once to shoot enemies behind you and in front of you.

oak plover
wide wadi
wide wadi
earnest jewel
#

eXo
Eviscerating
Robot
Of
Crab.
It was right in front of us all along.

uneven fractal
#

weapon

dull heart
earnest jewel
#

Damn it that's a reference I don't get.

wooden fulcrum
#

that io game

uneven fractal
#

which one

wooden fulcrum
#

diep

uneven fractal
#

diep is

#

blue and red bullets

#

not green

final pine
#

pretty sure there were 4 team modes

wooden fulcrum
#

isnt 4-teams mode also green and purple

#

or yellow maybe

wide wadi
wooden fulcrum
boreal edge
#

And it gives forward propulsion

arctic cliff
dull heart
#

acid venom

wide wadi
#

Venom like from marvel

dull heart
#

no

dull heart
#

venom like omnom's evil cousin

wide wadi
dull heart
#

(the guy from cut the rope)

wide wadi
#

Makes sense to me

stiff light
#

venom by eminem

wide wadi
stiff light
#

i think its venom symbiote

dull heart
#

most important change ever made

pearl sentinel
lapis oak
#

does it stay that way after deaths?

dull heart
#

yeah

lapis oak
#

awesome

dull heart
#

not world relogs though

lapis oak
#

wtf

dull heart
#

but it takes less than a second to change

#

so you can just deal with it

lapis oak
#

😔 sorry doze I rate this 1/10

dull heart
#

banned

#

i'm gonna rotate your electrons counter clockwise

uneven fractal
#

remove one from every atom in their body

lapis oak
#

😨 !??

placid wadi
uneven fractal
#

yessss

spark kiln
pulsar cobalt
pulsar cobalt
dull heart
pulsar cobalt
#

amazing

dull heart
#

both this and Virid don't really change much from alternating the rotation direction

#

but someone might appreciate it and I wanted it to do that

#

actually, it would make a difference for when going against the grain vs with the grain on a worm boss

high scaffold
#

So spoilerous

late eagle
dull heart
#

just reworked

late eagle
#

I see

#

Well, the rework is already very cool, I'll just have to wait for a submission on calart after releasing the update.

honest solstice
# dull heart just reworked

Will we get replacement flamethrower instead of shadethrower if dragonfolly and hive mind swaps? (For flamethrowers only runs)

dull heart
#

I have no idea

inner timber
#

put

honest solstice
#

Asking different people

molten grove
#

sorry, theres no initiative to make subclasses more viable..,..
22% chance of a flamethrower getting added at that tier if shadethrower gets kicked out

fierce hearth
#

Could just reskin it to be a lightning thrower lmao

molten grove
#

then hive needs a new ranged weapon

fierce hearth
#

I sincerely doubt the current drops are going to suffice for a post-ML drop table

#

Even if their damage numbers are cranked to the appropriate level, they'll be woefully underwhelming mechanically

molten grove
#

we’ll see what happens to all the drops if we get there

fierce hearth
#

Yeah I figured that's be the situation

#

Swapping boss positions kind of sucks because the current drops are aesthetically and mechanically matched to the power scale of their current progression

#

So folly drops look too cool for pre-HM

molten grove
#

idk folly’s drops mechanically are kinda zzzzzz

fierce hearth
#

LMAOO

#

Yeah fair on that front

#

Oh what's one of Folly's best drops? Thing that makes you shoot tiny little lightning blasts while attacking? Seriously??

lyric trellis
#

22% is basically 100%

lapis oak
#

literally a normal ass gun

fierce hearth
#

Ok ok you got me there I was mostly thinking of the Rouge Slash and Gilded Proboscis

#

Swordsplosion is a holdover drop from legendary weapons, so that can just be transferred to another boss without concern

#

Folly feed will probably be nerfed or made into a crafted mount

#

I forgot how fucking ass the current rouge slash projectile sprite is

#

Oh my god

honest solstice
#

Don't want one of my favourite subclasses to turn unplayable on that stage with these boss swaps

molten grove
#

swordsplosion is becoming craftable i think
no longer a drop

#

all the old 10% RIVs either got redistributed or merged into the boss’ normal loot pool

dull heart
honest solstice
#

Anyway how many time do we have before 2.1.0? About some months?

arctic patrol
#

lead wizard or something like that existed (thats the ONLY one i can remember)

earnest jewel
dull heart
#

but earlier yea

arctic patrol
#

ah

#

yea i was talking earlier

#

i wasn't aware it was this update

lyric trellis
#

God’s strongest clothier’s wrath soldiers

dull heart
#

it survived

#

Evil Smasher survived unanimously

limpid grotto
#

So whats the deal with DoG have they made any more announcements on it

earnest jewel
#

DoG is getting a temporary rework in the next update.

#

The proper rework with the new sprite will be after that one.

#

The goal is to make DoG good.

#

Then make the full, final, for real this time, fight.

limpid grotto
#

Ahh

#

Rework as in the resprite or just all in general

earnest jewel
#

The fight is being changed.

#

Then it's being changed again with the resprite.

limpid grotto
#

Ok 👍

#

When will the next update come out with the new DoG resprite, 2027 or later?

earnest jewel
#

Nobody knows.

#

Not even the devs.

#

Because they haven't started on it.

limpid grotto
#

Ok

earnest jewel
#

Since SSO isn't even out yet.

#

And future updates won't be developed until the current one is out.

#

And they don't have a strict timeline or roadmap.

limpid grotto
#

Soo

earnest jewel
#

As far as I'm aware, the order for future updates isn't even decided beyond a vague 'Yharim will be one of the last'.

limpid grotto
#

Ok

earnest jewel
#

Because deciding that kind of thing adds unnecessary pressure and isn't the focus.

vestal osprey
#

What about the super bosses after yharim?

earnest jewel
#

Oh, someone qualified is here.

pseudo vector
#

even we don't know

#

trust me, we're nowhere near the point where we can even consider xeroc and noxus

limpid grotto
#

Hmmm

vivid hemlock
limpid grotto
#

Well yea

fringe quiver
#

devourer of gods TOMMOROW.

limpid grotto
#

They haven't really been talking abt for a bit

pseudo vector
#

the update containing the new sprite for DoG is still relatively far out

#

we have more urgent things to address before then

earnest jewel
#

Like making DoG good.

fringe quiver
#

like adding fish

#

several fish

earnest jewel
#

Then make him look good.

fringe quiver
#

alot of fish

vestal osprey
#

Its safe to say the sso will be the biggest calamity update ever so far

pseudo vector
#

it'll be the biggest calamity update period

earnest jewel
#

Until the Xeroc-Silva divorce arc update.

pseudo vector
#

i don't think we want to do an update as big as SSO again for the sake of not taking a year or more per update

lapis oak
pseudo vector
#

i think both us and the community would go mad

vivid hemlock
lapis oak
#

😨

fringe quiver
#

sso stands for screeped scope overhaul

lapis oak
vivid hemlock
#

cool

vestal osprey
#

Im gonna be honest, im suprised you didnt pull a caves and cliffs and launch the updates in 2 parts

vivid hemlock
vestal osprey
#

I legit didnt, I havent heard anything about that

wide wadi
#

Like maybe crabulon mecha

earnest jewel
#

No.

#

No new bosses until Yharim.

#

Buuuutttt....

#

Cnidrion upgrade!

pulsar cobalt
#

with how a lot of boss reworks will be

earnest jewel
#

That's still happening, right?

pulsar cobalt
#

theyll essentially be new bosses too

pseudo vector
#

desert scourge's rework basically makes it a new boss

vestal osprey
#

there wont be new bosses, but there will be alot of boss ai rework

wide wadi
#

I hope the desert scourge becomes cute

mystic eagle
#

Technically PW will be a "new" boss if those plans still exist

wide wadi
#

They should put a pink bow on his head

earnest jewel
vestal osprey
wide wadi
pulsar cobalt
earnest jewel
pulsar cobalt
#

we only have small pieces of it and a bit of the head

vestal osprey
#

I was refering to this one

earnest jewel
#

Where did you even get that?

mystic eagle
pulsar cobalt
vestal osprey
#

oh 🙁

#

I likked that design

wide wadi
#

I low-key like the design already

earnest jewel
#

Someone pull out the shattered across time and space design.

#

Found it.

vestal osprey
#

They had to change that design

earnest jewel
#

What the hell did you do to the poor worm!?

mystic eagle
#

I gave its organs a redesign

vivid hemlock
distant raft
polar tide
#

new desert scourge desigmn is the best thign ever