ALMOST everything is probably going to be reworked or overhauled sometime in the future
#calamity-update-talk
rich ginkgo
mainly as in bosses
and i could see all 4 of the biomes being reworked too besides maybe sulphuric seas which dont really need that much of a world gen touch up
dense sundial
Cal has 5 biomes
I can’t speak for sulph sea because I only remember the Infernum-edited version of it
rich ginkgo
Cal has 5 biomes
i think i missed the abyss
brimstone crags, sunken sea, astral, sulphuric sea, and abyss
urban cloak
abyss gen already got some good touchups during sso honestly
i think heart worked on it alongside the new sunken sea gen
doubt we'll release it with sso tho
tropic jolt
its going to be weird once sunken sea becomes way better than every other biome
valid crypt
Sulp sea could do with just a better colour pallet
urban cloak
fab wanted that to happen but he's gone now so 🤷
rich ginkgo
i personally think the sulphurous sea generation is good, abyss is okay, sunken sea is looking amazing in sso so far and the astral biome is lacking in terms of content
tropic jolt
if astral didnt have two bosses people might even forget it exists
rich ginkgo
id love to see what else they could do with the astral biome
i dislike how it’s main features are housing two completely optional bosses that dont give the best loot either
earnest jewel
Maybe if there was a reason to explore the Underground Astral.
tropic jolt
astral is so weird because sometimes it doesnt even spawn properly and you wont even get it in your world
and its mostly just completely forgettable with two honestly bad bosses
rich ginkgo
ive noticed that i barely get any hallow in my worlds, sometimes absolutely none
but what i do get is around 3 fucking evil biomes
fathom girder
SSO 2012 confirmed
urban cloak
jungle more than likely eats it
and then astral is programmed to always land on the dungeon side so sometimes that ends up eating the hallow too
rich ginkgo
yeah it’s the jungle eating up the hallow
it gets huge now
i dont think it’s always been like that?
urban cloak
¯_(ツ)_/¯
plush carbon
astral introduces a lot of issues because of the bloated biome pool
meaning hallow very often gets eaten by it, jungle or snow
rich ginkgo
is there any way of fixing that in the future
urban cloak
no clue if we have anything planned
plush carbon
remove astral infection 
tropic jolt
maybe if there was a way to remove the second evil biome that generates on world creation and place the astral there
earnest jewel
Make bigger worlds?
rich ginkgo
im assuming it’s tmodloaders limitations?
urban cloak
there's a mod that improves infection compatibility though
infected qualities
dull heart
There's nothing officially planned
tropic jolt
remove astral infection <:MeilingThumbsUp:589907469363314819>
if only
dull heart
But there has been a few ideas
urban cloak
you can install that if you want infected snow and what not
adds a hallowed jungle too
its pretty neat
dusk bronze
will do
fathom girder
Calamity qol mod that removes the astral biome but gives you an astral loot bag so you still get all the astral stuff anyway
rich ginkgo
evil content expansion
looks cool
idk if it’ll do anything to the enormous amounts of space the world evil takes up
dull heart
calamity QoL mod that removes all calamity biomes and makes them their own subworlds
earnest jewel
Calamity addon that makes it so that Yharim died of a stroke two years into the crusade so the world's a utopia.
tropic jolt
calamity qol that deletes terraria when you open the starter bag
dull heart
me omw to the abyss subworld
tropic jolt
me omw to the abyss subworld
I would love that
earnest jewel
Lore accurater abyss.
fathom girder
Abyss subworld would be the least used subworld ever made
rich ginkgo
Calamity addon that makes it so that Yharim died of a stroke two years into the ...
we’d probably just be obliterated by some random god because yharim never ended up killing them
tropic jolt
Abyss subworld would be the least used subworld ever made
I would generate my world as entirely abyss with a single island if I could
earnest jewel
we’d probably just be obliterated by some random god because yharim never ended ...
Providence:
fathom girder
sir you're insane
dull heart
abyss subworld would be super cool
earnest jewel
Providence is quite likely the literal worst of the gods, and the second place were killed on day one. So I'd say the world is probably better off this way.
tropic jolt
the worst part about the abyss is that I cant make an artificial abyss!!!
rich ginkgo
i thought you could make an artificial abyss
ive seen it before
specifically in that one guys calamity skyblock playthrough
dull heart
we need a mod that makes the entire game the abyss
rich ginkgo
where he has to beat the game on a single block of scoria
dusk bronze
yes
dull heart
but like also makes everything doable in it
dusk bronze
actually yes
rich ginkgo
i think it was scoria, or brimstone slag or something
dull heart
where he has to beat the game on a single block of scoria
charred ore actually smh
urban cloak
secret seed potential
dull heart
Or brimslag
earnest jewel
Calamity: Moisture Edition.
dull heart
It was something brimstone
rich ginkgo
Or brimslag
yeah i think it was brimstone slag he was on
tropic jolt
we need a mod that makes the entire game the abyss
please please please
rich ginkgo
just a single block of it
earnest jewel
Because Mining Gear exists.
rich ginkgo
his latest video he managed to make an artificial abyss
earnest jewel
So you can clone it.
tropic jolt
his latest video he managed to make an artificial abyss
who?
rich ginkgo
chief logan
tropic jolt
will watch
hushed hazel
we need a mod that makes the entire game the abyss
subnautica secret seed
tropic jolt
an abyss world would be so cool
valid crypt
Subnautica
dusk bronze
secret seed
dull heart
abyss world where you spawn in a small biodome
dusk bronze
peam
hexed basalt
scal and exo mechs tomorrow
desert path
abyss world where you spawn in a small biodome
this would actually be sick but it would probably lag like hell like most waterworlds
dull heart
probably
desert path
Terraria liquids when you ask them to behave for the .5 seconds it takes for it to move down 1 block:
halcyon seal
Abyss subworld would be the least used subworld ever made
abyss subworld sounds fucking awesome
i would love that shit
left nexus
we need a mod that makes the entire game the abyss
100%
molten grove
real axle
The lag must be insane
molten grove
it’s actually quite stable because subworlds have liquid updates disabled by default
aka if you place a bucket of water above it, it wont move
real axle
oh, i see
brave star
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
Which abyss is this
molten grove
mine
obtuse hawk
ah cool
opaque coral
where he has to beat the game on a single block of scoria
it was infernal suevite
earnest jewel
Wrong mod.
opaque coral
but its not calamity abyss (gasps)
earnest jewel
That's for a different mod.
devout musk
did subworlds ever become more stable to work with
earnest jewel
I mean, I'd assume the people who made the mod updated it at least once.
Of course, whether it meets your expectations is another matter.
valid crypt
did subworlds ever become more stable to work with
yes, theres multiplayer support from what i hear
devout musk
I mean it was like you needed steam cloud off didn't work in multiplayer was incompatible with boss checklist and sometimes just bugged out
when I last checked a while ago
opaque coral
did subworlds ever become more stable to work with
they work better with slump at least on multiplayer
though i think it got merged into the main mod
finally
and calamity boss resyncer can stop boss completion being wiped
lusty stirrup
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
man
rich ginkgo
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
can we get this as like an actual seed
dull heart
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
another case of yuh being the goat
halcyon seal
can we get this as like an actual seed
dontswimup
Cal secret seeds would be very cool but it doesn’t sound feasible
fathom girder
Abyss seed would be impossible :D
I sure do love losing breath not only faster
but then dying immediately when I start drowning
earnest jewel
justkeepswimming
desert path
just keep swimming
gloomy bridge
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
This a Remix thing or ???
iron dew
@still bluff free money
pearl sentinel
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
we need tundra subworld
and desert subworld
and forest subworld
and ocean subworld
valid crypt
Make terraria worlds 10 times larger in all directions
earnest jewel
Make every structure much bigger.
molten grove
ability to resize structures like an art program sounds funny
ill write that one down
tropic jolt
just make terraria into a metroidvania
fathom girder
Story of red cloud tried that
earnest jewel
No that was a Soulslike.
hallow escarp
fuck, does wotg need an update or some shit
shit am I even in #calamity-addon-talk
son of a bitch
hallow escarp
i will salvage my ass by talking about something calamity-spoiler-talk related
uhh
changelog #666 whatever the fuck it is
im gonna take a peek
666 - You can no longer feed the Angler to Trashers.
AHHHHHHH FUCK
pearl sentinel
> 666 - You can no longer feed the Angler to Trashers.
AHHHHHHH FUCK
rip 2017 humor
dorkly in shambles
dusky void
I just want golden fishing rod bro...
celest bobcat
30 fishing quests aint bad once you get into the rhythm 
left nexus
30 fishing quests aint bad once you get into the rhythm <:thumbsupcask:131847355...
Lowk if you get the scarab fishing rod fast enough and some respectable bait you'll get going in no time
lean relic
today, the time between BH and SSO part 1 is one day longer than between R&D and draedon update
stuck kite
that's usually how the passage of time goes
lapis oak
Guh
arctic cliff
that's usually how the passage of time goes
The Passage of Tin goes.
stuck kite
mechanical hands
stone zephyr
are the ruler of everything
prisma cipher
Aaaa
thorny glacier
changelogs tomorrow
dusk bronze
any poiler?
silk terrace
changelogs today
where is it
hazy pine
What do we know about Statis (if anything)
What biomes does he like, any insight on his quest line etc
hexed basalt
he has a curse
hazy pine
Oh yeah what his personality is like
hazy pine
(biggest thing I need to know)
hushed hazel
Oh yeah what his personality is like
he misses his husband probably
hazy pine
Ok
cobalt wharf
f word
hardy gulch
sunken sea overhaul changelogs are already yuge
azure oak
calamity mod
hard copper
ture...
tiny rapids
changelogs today
gonna cry if this is a lie /j
floral yew
today, the time between BH and SSO part 1 is one day longer than between R&D and...
its gonna be hype
can't wait for xalamity to crash on my potato laptop 🔥
pseudo vector
mechanical hands
holy shit like the mechanical glove from the hit game terraria
hushed hazel
haven't heard of that game sorry
pseudo vector
cunning sequoia
azure oak
bald man
hushed hazel
https://tenor.com/view/screaming-lex-luthor-superman-aaah-raging-gif-11297985997...
when this part hit me and the rest of my friends all soyjaked at the screen simultaneously
incredibly funny moment
silk terrace
sunken sea overhaul changelogs are already yuge
Calamity Mod 2
hexed basalt
gonna cry if this is a lie /j
um sorry!
hexed basalt
when this part hit me and the rest of my friends all soyjaked at the screen simu...
cinema
hexed basalt
sometime in the next few weeks maybe
stone fiber
Is this a flipping Risk of Rain reference 
Calamity analog horror be like 
Time to start a new countdown
azure oak
the countdown ended yesterday idk what they're on about
stone fiber
Years*
stone fiber
the countdown ended yesterday idk what they're on about
Yeah that's why I said that it's time to start a new one 
ahem
...
...
...I don't actually know what to countdown for 
azure oak
count up from today to when yharim releases
valid crypt
Silksong release
dusk bronze
gta6 release
thorny glacier
278
bold rivet
hardy gulch
Calamity Mod 2
What do you mean calamity mod 2
azure oak
ozzatron is making calamity mod 2
dusk bronze
true
halcyon seal
What do you mean calamity mod 2
Yk the vid with the guy going PEGGLE 2
hardy gulch
What?!?!
stone fiber
doubt we'll release it with sso tho
Maybe in part 2?
hardy gulch
ozzatron is making calamity mod 2
i cant confirm this unless i had ozzatron on speed dial
azure oak
devs should release an achievement patch once tmod achievements go public
call it "how achievementous"
fierce nebula
lapis oak
lean relic
aged so real
tropic jolt
why would Ozzatron 0001 make calamity 2? that would be stupid.
azure oak
that would be smart*
real axle
Every body talking about SSO, but no one mentions SOS
real axle
wrong channel, but yeah people can live there, and people who like the ocean like it
peak wedge
wrong channel, but yeah people can live there, and people who like the ocean lik...
a oop
peak wedge
wrong channel, but yeah people can live there, and people who like the ocean lik...
does it make an ocean pylon or a sulph one
real axle
sulphrous one
peak wedge
sweet
dull heart
devs should release an achievement patch once tmod achievements go public
haha funny to think we even could
(achievement icons 😨)
azure oak
simply make very single achievement icon 
lapis oak
programmer art will go hard with this one
torn kite
I volunteere to make every single achievement icon needed for the cheap price of deleting astrum deus from the mod
😁
unborn aspen
(achievement icons 😨)
Luckily calamity mod has a lot of skilled spriters at its disposal to do this task 
vocal kelp
As cheap as offers get tbh
torn kite
✅
earnest jewel
Achievment idea: Cut down a tree.
native thistle
Will the subworld still be baked into the mod, or will the mod require the subworld mod (or whatever it is called)
Last time it was talked about, fab was still here so idk if things changed.
torn kite
Iirc ozz is against dependencies as well
urban cloak
plan is to still bake it into the mod, yea
we dont wanna depend on anything we cant maintain directly
native thistle
Ye I figured, just wanted to make sure.
stone fiber
devs should release an achievement patch once tmod achievements go public
Probably in part 2
stone fiber
Will the subworld still be baked into the mod, or will the mod require the subwo...
What subworld?
stone fiber
Maybe in part 2?
twin bloom
white aurora
dusk bronze
spriter.
hell.
tropic jolt
spriter heaven!
dusk bronze
real axle
why is everyone here?
dusk bronze
achievements
tropic jolt
clue
hot pebble
hi guys
native thistle
hot pebble
is there something new?
native thistle
Depends
dusk bronze
since when
hot pebble
since yesterday when i asked the same question
dusk bronze
no
hot pebble
ok
final pine
we need a mod that makes the entire game the abyss
calanautica
earnest jewel
Calamariana Trench.
tropic jolt
Calamariana's Lament
wide nova
ok so another song may be coming out before acid rain
for vcmm
recently got a whole lot of progress on it
cinder hearth
Ooooh
dusk bronze
real axle
peak incoming?
tropic jolt
ok so another song may be coming out before acid rain
a silksong?
wide nova
that comes out on my court date 💔
lapis oak
It's over
tropic jolt
it's so over
dusk bronze
thorny glacier
ok so another song may be coming out before acid rain
lemme guess… fishron’s theme! right?
dusk bronze
evil and intimidating 10%:
mystic eagle
Aether
tropic jolt
but 10% is so close to 100% you only need to add a 0 and 0 is nothing at all
dusk bronze
true
thorny glacier
must be blizzard i guess (it’s 90 percent complete so it’s my final vote)
dusk bronze
👀
wide nova
duke's theme has been done for a long time
yet its old
so im remaking it
and its the craziest song ive made in a while imo
blizzard will be getting touchups
dont like where its at rn
dusk bronze
hype
gloomy bridge
(achievement icons 😨)
It’d be so funny seeing the achievements resprited. Every. Update.
Like unless a definitive final FINAL sprite or design exists for something, the achievement would need respriting otherwise it just wouldn’t make sense
dusk bronze
holy shit dragon in main
stone fiber
abyss subworld
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158882156190388275/138...
Peam 
stone fiber
Cal secret seeds would be very cool but it doesn’t sound feasible
Why not?
vocal kelp
Like unless a definitive final FINAL sprite or design exists for something, the ...
Wholesome
mystic eagle
Spriter Hell ❤️
stone fiber
dusk bronze
@ triangle 500 MORE SPRITES TO ACHIEVEMENT ICONS
azure oak
the mines, back into the mines with you
stone fiber
@ triangle 500 MORE SPRITES TO ACHIEVEMENT ICONS
dusk bronze
holy shit bortis from the bortis variety hour orville
azure oak
but yeah reasonable that this wouldn't be done overnight considering there are 80 planned achievements according to ozzatron iirc
80 achievement icons is a lot
urban cloak
all 80 aren't guaranteed to get in at once when we do get the ability to implement them as well
at least personally id imagine if we wanted to do any for sso it wouldn't be much
there's also a good chance some achievements on that doc are dated and would never see the light of day
urban cloak
doc housing the 80 achievement ideas yes
has existed for quite a while now to my knowledge
pseudo vector
some of them will probably get updated
brave star
doc housing the 80 achievement ideas yes
has existed for quite a while now to my...
Is it ok if any of us that use the doc mention the achievements (guests and main people of the doc like fryzahh)
vivid hemlock
what?
dusk bronze
Is it ok if any of us that use the doc mention the achievements (guests and main...
wait how many non devs have access
urban cloak
none of them should??
im guessing cosmore confused it for the future content doc or smth
dusk bronze
ohhhh
hushed hazel
there's also a good chance some achievements on that doc are dated and would nev...
i feel like i remember one of them being cirrus related so that's most likely true yes
brave star
I respect the dev doc being for devs only
urban cloak
yea that would have to die if it does exist
hushed hazel
might just be hallucinating again though
pseudo vector
honestly it makes me want to do some revisions myself now that they're confirmed to be added into tmod imminently
there are definitely some funny achievement names last i checked
brave star
And yea, cirrus should be killed by a sort of new rc vehicle achievement
silk terrace
whens the next calamity update🥹
brave star
Maybe a boat rc
terse dew
1 billion years from yesterday
silk terrace
😭
brave star
10 Fargo years actually
azure oak
it'll never release because you asked about it, thanks a lot
silk terrace
devs are living life and not developing💔
terse dew
Heartbreaking
brave star
Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing for dev health
dusk bronze
silksong meteor hitting calamity hq imminently
pseudo vector
development is indeed happening
pseudo vector
and yeah silksong meteor is 100% gonna hit
silk terrace
Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing for dev health
who cares about their health i need my update
brave star
Does it contain a song and some silk
silk terrace
theyve got to work harder
hushed hazel
i wonder if it'll be worse than the deltarune earthquake
stiff light
theyve got to work harder
amen
pseudo vector
who cares about their health i need my update
🥶
pseudo vector
i was playing no mans sky earlier
urban cloak
i wonder if it'll be worse than the deltarune earthquake
if silksong ends up actually being bigger than hollow knight there's a good chance it will lmao
dusk bronze
i was playing no mans sky earlier
based
hushed hazel
if silksong ends up actually being bigger than hollow knight there's a good chan...
i mean
urban cloak
deltarune you can finish a chapter a day if you persist
pseudo vector
they added buildable ships with interiors n shit in the new update today
brave star
Was playing hollow knight earlier ago
dusk bronze
they added buildable ships with interiors n shit in the new update today
my dad watched the trailer
it's peak
brave star
So that I can be prepared for Silksong
urban cloak
silksong will be a full ass new game experience
pseudo vector
its so peak
hushed hazel
it's been in development heaven for the last 7 years because they were having too much fun to stop adding shit
pseudo vector
i've experienced it for myself
hushed hazel
i would not be surprised if it's bigger than hk
urban cloak
it's been in development heaven for the last 7 years because they were having to...
that is true, yea
i forgot about that article
hushed hazel
i almost called it the elden ring of metroidvanias for a moment there
stiff light
zotegoat
pseudo vector
zote the goat
anyways uhhhh calamity
i was working on the new exos rendition today
brave star
Calamity achievements
pseudo vector
been spending the last few days on it making sure the mix is all gucci
and i think i've got it to a good spot so i can write some cool shit
brave star
I wonder if the second cal album will have extras outside of the planned panels you have? Like remixes of other bosses
pseudo vector
azure oak
i was working on the new exos rendition today
nice!
pseudo vector
new exos is the most polished sounding mix i've done for it by far
mainly cuz i had 3 extra years of experience compared to how much i had when i started the previous version
brave star
<:peeposhrug:821251627201331210>
Fair enough
brave star
What’s the new video of?
pseudo vector
something
dusk bronze
of course
azure oak
LMAO
pseudo vector
WHY DO I FIND THIS FUNNY
azure oak
also holy lag
pseudo vector
MY HUMOR IS SO COOKED
brave star
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
You are my most favorite creation
dusk bronze
You are my most favorite creation
poyo!
hushed hazel
the crusty ass jesus fading in got me way harder than i'd like to admit
mystic eagle
Please keep the jesus image as a 1/10k chance if you die in GFB
urban cloak
i promise ill send a better example later
cinder hearth
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
Now you need to leave this in like the infernum devs left the painting in
azure oak
why is he even so crushed
brave star
What if the Demon King Ganondorf cutscene was ported in terraria as a video cutscene
urban cloak
Please keep the jesus image as a 1/10k chance if you die in GFB
Jesus.png is already a gfb feature just for smth else
dusk bronze
why is he even so crushed
i ate the resolution sorry
mystic eagle
What if the Demon King Ganondorf cutscene was ported in terraria as a video cuts...
Do it with Yahaharim's cutscene
mystic eagle
Jesus.png is already a gfb feature just for smth else
azure oak
well i'm excited to see a proper showcase later
urban cloak
yea i wanna use it in some other areas
brave star
Do it with Yahaharim's cutscene
Yham the demon king god
thorny glacier
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
is it for homeward journey?
yeah
mystic eagle
Do it with Yahaharim's cutscene
Yahaha-you-found-me-rim's 2nd phase should have his healthbar go offscreen and into your living room
brave star
JUDAS?????
Whomst is the Judas
royal garnet
Whomst is the Judas
Some mf that snitched on jesus once
urban cloak
ITS SO PERFECTLY TIMED
hushed hazel
NO JESUS NO WATCH OUT HE'S GONNA BETRAY YYOU
stiff light
jesus died and got more aura
mystic eagle
Ban Judas before it's too late
latent portal
mystic eagle
jesus died and got more aura
Jesus is aurafarming in heaven
He's gained a huge following since
stiff light
jesus died for our mango
brave star
Which mango
stiff light
67...
boreal edge
analog helm
67 is interesting for a mango
how about 68
brave star
That would be 67’s older sibling
stiff light
what yall on about
brave star
Idk
azure oak
jesus
stiff light
lobotomised spoiler talk
azure oak
frieza was the one who used bitcrushed jesus as a cutscene test
brave star
Uh oh
analog helm
corporation...
alright kris! lets ruin this library!
earnest jewel
Somehow, Jesus returned.
azure oak
jesus comes down from heaven to announce the SSO release date and then promptly goes back
brave star
Who announces silksong before team cherry
earnest jewel
Who announces silksong before team cherry
Gaston?
analog helm
(haaaaaaaaaaaaaa holy choir)
The "Sunken Sea Overhaul"... Is arriving never
(riohc yloh aaaaaaaaaaaaaah)
azure oak
1/1000000 chance for jesus to flash on screen for a frame after you die
analog helm
even smaller chance for him to flash for no reason at any time
earnest jewel
even smaller chance for him to flash for no reason at any time
That just means he saved you from having a stroke/heart attack.
azure oak
accompanied with a choir, but it only last as long as the image
analog helm
saves you from the withered foxy jumpscare mod,,
earnest jewel
If you have them both on there's a chance you instead have an unskippable Jesus Vs. Withered Foxy cutscene.
pearl sentinel
jesus comes down from heaven to announce the SSO release date and then promptly ...
like DoG at the nebula pillar
lean relic
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
LOL WHAT
fathom girder
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
PRAISE BE
tropic ermine
I can't believe Xeroc is being replaced in favor of the Christian God
mystic eagle
I can't believe Xeroc is being replaced in favor of the Christian God
Xeroc is the Christian God in Calamity lore
earnest jewel
Xeroc *is* the Christian God in Calamity lore
That's a joke, right?
mystic eagle
That's a joke, right?
You don't know what you're missing
earnest jewel
Oh thank God, there's a shocking amount of people who legitimately believe that.
brave star
By getting rusty and dusty
slate folio
yeah the update
earnest jewel
Install Calamity mod?
slate folio
twas the first version of cal i played
earnest jewel
Oh, you want the old version.
There are archives online, but no official ones released to my knowledge.
earnest jewel
Only version 1.0.
dusk bronze
and 1.2
mystic eagle
And 1.1.7
earnest jewel
Oh, there are other classic versions released?
lapis oak
you have to compile the old code by yourself or something
hot pebble
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
Jesus Christ, it's Jesus Christ!
earnest jewel
Jesus the Christ!
urban cloak
yeah the update
you should find it here
https://github.com/MountainDrew8/CalamityMod/releases
this is the old github that was connected to the mod on 1.3 so that tmod could automatically gnerate builds of the mod here anytime an update came out
fringe quiver
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
jesus is canon
keep the agenda alive
earnest jewel
Yharim after he kills Jesus but he ressurects and says 'I forgive you.'
tropic jolt
jesus like the sus from among us
earnest jewel
jesus like the sus from among us
analog helm
such a spoil
raw pendant
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
We are getting cutscenes in calamity? What a world this is awesome
Fabless cal is going to be so peak
lapis oak
hope it's not too intrusive
brave star
Maybe there could be a cutscenes mod for vanilla terraria
lofty valley
vanilla cutscenes?
rich ginkgo
hope it's not too intrusive
how would they be
i dont get the argument of cutscenes being a bad concept because of intrusivness and "losing control"
lapis oak
because I don't want to watch a movie
rich ginkgo
it isnt like you'll be getting cutscenes in the middle of boss fights
as if it's nine sols
im assuming cutscenes would be used to elaborate on lore in-game
you'd probably go through cutscenes while exploring very specific areas and that's it
lapis oak
don't do it like triple A games
rich ginkgo
can i have an example because triple A is a very broad term now
earnest jewel
It's a term for publisher size?
lapis oak
GoW
rich ginkgo
It's a term for publisher size?
as in there's lots of games marked as "triple A"
earnest jewel
as in there's lots of games marked as "triple A"
Because a lot of games are made by big publishers.
rich ginkgo
i dont think gow cutscenes are that bad
lapis oak
well I do
rich ginkgo
but
lapis oak
I don't wanna watch a movie just let me play the game
rich ginkgo
the clear difference is that those are story games, terraria/calamity isnt one of those
lapis oak
skip skip skip skip
rich ginkgo
you'd get nowhere near the amount of cutscenes in a game like this, then you would in story games
urban cloak
i do plan on programming a skip button but i wanna work on making sure the system works in multiplayer first
rich ginkgo
Calamity is a pretty story driven game.
im gonna be real, in-game, it's not
earnest jewel
Someone here would never survive a Kojima game.
rich ginkgo
i know there's a lot of lore in cal but not much is in-game right now, and if there is, it's usually just from reading item descriptions
earnest jewel
Quite a lot is in game.
rich ginkgo
id like some examples
earnest jewel
And a good chunk is from dialogue.
vivid hemlock
skip skip skip skip
this is me skipping the cutscene where kiri is melted down and remolded into a coffin
urban cloak
hope it's not too intrusive
im gonna guess you dont want to be forcefully put into one you dont wanna watch?
intrusive can mean different things to many people
some folks just wont want to watch any cutscenes at all
lapis oak
no I want it be more like WotG or Fables little zoom in focus while still being in complete controls on my character
urban cloak
hard to do that because they aren't client side
lapis oak
that's a good example
urban cloak
there are both player-specific cutscenes and cutscenes that can happen in the world for all players
earnest jewel
Draedon's logs and calls, I'll give you that the current lore items are technically item descriptions, even if they are Yharim's dialogue, Amidias has some, but he's going to get some rewrites, but after that he and other characters will have more lore relevant dialogue.
valid crypt
Theres also the bestiary on calamity enemies
valid crypt
Most lore we know probably is in game
Its just
Over time not public info has built up since sso taken so long
rich ginkgo
Draedon's logs and calls, I'll give you that the current lore items are technica...
as i said it's mostly just text, and id ASSUME most players dont sit and read all of it
i know that even after several of my calamity runs, i had a lot of trouble making out what stuff was supposed to be
maybe that's just me? sure, but you have to admit it'd be nicer if some of it actually felt implemented and more apart of the game instead
lapis oak
Monster Hunter Wilds does something like ingame cutscenes but you can't move at all and just watch your character on automatic mode and the only thing you can do is looking around at the scenery listening to NPCs talking
I'm not very fond of that
earnest jewel
Do you want voice acting or something? There isn't many other ways to convey the story outside of text in a game like Terraria.
rich ginkgo
i mean cutscenes are literally the main focus of the topic here
so that's one for you
valid crypt
They do plan on more environmental storytelling
earnest jewel
I was telling you what forms of storytelling are present other then item descriptions, you can just say you ignore them all, but in the case of cutscenes you could also just ignore them anyway, so it's a moot point.
urban cloak
no I want it be more like WotG or Fables little zoom in focus while still being ...
whether you retain control or not will be very dependent on what kind of cutscene you're viewing imo, but generally yeah it'll just be a lot of fancy camera movements when sso comes out
there's already an in-world one working i just cant show it here because spoilers ofc
the one i sent earlier was an example of a player specific one
if we do anymore of those you'll most likely have to opt into them yourself rather than getting thrust into em
earnest jewel
Too late we saw the Jesus cutscene.
urban cloak
i was not referring to the jesus cutscene
earnest jewel
We know he's in the lore now.
valid crypt
Jesus vs yharim canon
lapis oak
something like memories of the past, ye I mean movie cutscenes fit for those because like, the character weren't present there
rich ginkgo
the one i sent earlier was an example of a player specific one
if we do anymore ...
this is a good point, most cutscenes would very likely be optional and you'd have to take part in them based on your own decision
there isnt really any way it'd be intrusive
urban cloak
mhm!
rich ginkgo
since you can just, not put yourself through them
lapis oak
but for something like boss intros or introduction of character that players stumble upon, I'd like them to be more dynamic and free of controls
misty wren
Jesus vs yharim canon
urban cloak
but for something like boss intros or introduction of character that players stu...
oh for sure
like i said its just very case sensitive
lapis oak
the one i sent earlier was an example of a player specific one
if we do anymore ...
that's good to hear then 🙂↕️
urban cloak
cant really say exactly how all of them will be
earnest jewel
Five minute trash talk cutscene for Devourer of Gods on each summon, unskippable.
rich ginkgo
but for something like boss intros or introduction of character that players stu...
i think they'd be good if they were like hollow knight boss intros but toned down a lil
lapis oak
yep
hard copper
epic rap battles of history!
rich ginkgo
hollow knight boss intros for some reason last quite a while and you have to go through them for EVERY run of the boss
misty wren
shoutout to this fuckshit i made 3 years ago via a powerpoint screen recording
rich ginkgo
but they're cool either way
limpid grail
Too late we saw the Jesus cutscene.
oh is that public
yeah no that was amazing
top tier placeholder
hard copper
hollow knight boss intros for some reason last quite a while and you have to go ...
me seeing the words "absolute radiance" for the calmillionth time practicing her in the hall of gods
earnest jewel
Can't wait for Jesus to aid us against Yharim.
lapis oak
Jesus will save the Terrarian
limpid grail
incorrect
lapis oak
😨 ?
limpid grail
you see
misty wren
Can't wait for Jesus to aid us against Yharim.
...i mean. https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Cross_Necklace
limpid grail
jesus actually just
earnest jewel
...i mean. https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Cross_Necklace
limpid grail
comes in before the fight starts
and opens a portal straight to hell
and throws yharim in with his Jesus Blast
earnest jewel
YOOO!
misty wren
anyways jesus died for the terrarians sins this is real i have dev confirmation
limpid grail
anyways jesus died for the terrarians sins this is real i have dev confirmation
I made this joke first in dev reb is a bitch
urban cloak
canon christianity truthers are eating good today
misty wren
see now i have TWO dev confirmations
earnest jewel
How the hell was I interpreting 'Cross' in Cross Necklace as angry, it's literally a cross how did I not...
earnest jewel
That's what I'm saying, Jesus must be integral to the lore somehow.
hard copper
angry cross necklace!
earnest jewel
YO!
limpid grail
trying to be productive before silksong comes out
earnest jewel
How many are dedicated to her being broke?
limpid grail
and also i have nothign better to do while waiting for Limbus update
misty wren
That's what I'm saying, Jesus must be integral to the lore somehow.
i mean like he genuinely does fit into lore via theorizing
stuck kite
the slave before the song
limpid grail
and also i have nothign better to do while waiting for Limbus update
in
like
2 hours and 20 minutes
misty wren
cant believe we got silksong before calamity mod sunken sea overhaul
earnest jewel
4am?
grave geyser
time zones
misty wren
time zones
rich ginkgo
trying to be productive before silksong comes out
REAL
earnest jewel
Time zones?
hard copper
so true
earnest jewel
I've already gotten this consuming my life, no room for more.
How the hell did I end up on the Discord server more than the actual game?
grave geyser
I want silksong to be mid for no other reason than it would be fucking hilarious
earnest jewel
I need to finish Hollow Knight. How long do I have?
fathom girder
Till september fourth
lapis oak
1 hour
earnest jewel
2:45am?
rich ginkgo
I need to finish Hollow Knight. How long do I have?
1 week and 1 day
i cant believe there's still people who haven't played hollow knight yet wait for silksong?
strong isle
Imagine giving Silksong more attention than mod development... lazy ass devs....
We should throw them into lava I think
rich ginkgo
but we'll summon the wall of flesh
late eagle
finished up a cutscene system for the mod earlier
MY LORD 😭🙏
earnest jewel
We should throw them into lava I think
What could possibly go wrong!
Also throw in this weird looking egg I found.
gloomy grove
Imagine giving Silksong more attention than mod development... lazy ass devs....
all development in the world halted for two weeks on september 4th for silksong
earnest jewel
We can't let the devs leave the coding mines.
rich ginkgo
there's already several games that have been delayed
just because of silksong apparently
lmao
fringe quiver
and also i have nothign better to do while waiting for Limbus update
train my xichuns
limpid grail
train my xichuns
ok i have the perfetc teacher for her today. i'm sure Wild Hunt Heathcliff will do a fantastic job.
misty wren
that depends on what you want to teach her
late eagle
canon christianity truthers are eating good today
I'm currently in the absolute cinema pose
misty wren
do you want to teach her how to be an angry motherfucker or do you want to teach her how to do Literally Anything Else
fathom girder
all development in the world halted for two weeks on september 4th for silksong ...
only two weeks?
fringe quiver
well if you want to teach her to aurafarm wild hunt does a pretty good job
limpid grail
all development in the world halted for two weeks on september 4th for silksong ...
literal entire games getting delayed because silksong is coming out
misty wren
better off looking at thumbsault or red eyes ryoshu there tbqh
gloomy grove
only two weeks?
two weeks is like 240+ hours without sleep
limpid grail
gripclair teacher
fathom girder
two weeks is like 240+ hours without sleep
not enough time
gloomy grove
literal entire games getting delayed because silksong is coming out
PEAK devs delaying updates to play silksong 🗣️ 🔥
fringe quiver
gripclair teacher
she teaches her how to be mentally ill
misty wren
she teaches her how to be mentally ill
cheese. this is every limbus company character
urban cloak
my vacation ends the week after silksong so my activity is just gonna plummet in general
fringe quiver
ok but like specially gripclair
limpid grail
anybody could do that
fringe quiver
he literally gets stronger the more mentally ill he is thats his whole gimmick
limpid grail
he literally gets stronger the more mentally ill he is thats his whole gimmick
ok and so does tear rodion
he aint special
fringe quiver
well he was until tear rodion came out
misty wren
so does [Insert Negative Coin ID]
fringe quiver
we dont talk about the other one
there was only one other negative coin id after gripclair and before tear rodion/queen don we don't talk about hi
misty wren
hey potential man does have a use
limpid grail
it's funny to make jokes about him?
misty wren
he does get a significant buff in canto 6 specifically
misty wren
making him i believe the best heathcliff id for that canto outside of wild hunt
earnest jewel
Yay!
fringe quiver
sunken sea overhaul
next calamity update
its big
like comically bihg
like biggest update the mod has ever seen
frosty fulcrum
like biggest update the mod has ever seen
is there a list somewhere of the features?
fathom girder
changelogs is the best we've got iirc
fringe quiver
#changelogs for sso currently go up to 723 in count and that's still far from everything
frosty fulcrum
i saw someone on reddit saying it releases the next day, but that was posted 2 days ago and i’m not seeing anything so i may have just been pranked
fathom girder
yes that's a common meme
distant raft
your first mistake was going to the cal subreddit
frosty fulcrum
oh okay…
distant raft
deltarune tomorrow trust
earnest jewel
Sunken Sea Overhaul Tomorrow Tomorrow.
fringe quiver
Desert scourge complete rework (Completely new AI, new sprite, summon method, etc.), Cnidrion and Giant Clam becoming proper minibosses and getting actual fights, Entire rework of the Sunken Sea featuring far more mechanically interesting and complex enemies and ambient creatures aswell as several new sub-biomes alongside the biome itself being far larger, Amidias being fully reworked and getting his own questline, cutscenes, more lore/story integration, rework of several itens (Including most things related to sunken sea and other early pre hm content like the desert), a ton of miscellaneous item/enemy reworks, new dialogue tree system for npcs alongside new dialogue
buncha more stuff
distant raft
forgot dog rework
fringe quiver
honestly its more of a overall modernization update than just a sunken sea update atp
fathom girder
Scope creep update
earnest jewel
Calamitas dialogue that's now up to date, so we can truly appreciate how messed up her life is.
fringe quiver
scope creep 😔
And yeah i put emphasis on DS's rework being actually completely new because most previous boss reworks where just tweaks to the original boss AI baseline - Which by itself was just modified and reutilized vanilla code
Because Fabsol was the only person working on the bosses n didn't allow anyone else to so yeah
earnest jewel
Did someone give him cocaine when he made Calamitas or something because how the hell would he manage that?
fringe quiver
Even Scal is mostly reutilized boss ai with added projectiles iirc
The cool visuals just kinda make you Not Realize It + Some bits of the fight are coded by other people
fringe quiver
Notably the brothers are completely original AI not reutilized from vanilla in any way because
yeah xyk made them. not fabsol
😭
fathom girder
really says somethin' doesn't it
earnest jewel
Can't wait for her rework in 2042.
fathom girder
that's when SSO releases
her rework isn't till 2254
Calamity players when they realize the poopshit enemy shares a single line of code with green slime(it's a parameter that every enemy ai requires to function)
The thought came to me just now because people will ABSOLUTELY say shit even after the reworks
earnest jewel
You imply that they are literate enough to know that a line of code is reused.
fringe quiver
enemies have health. green slime has health. reused code? lazy.
people be finding any reason to be hate on calamity vro
tropic jolt
The thought came to me just now because people will ABSOLUTELY say shit even aft...
ermm this calamity boss has a defense stat just like the twins... unique ai strikes again
fringe quiver
theres valid things to criticize about the mod, there always is for every creative project ever, but people ain't even criticizing they just hating...
earnest jewel
Criticism: Not enough Calamitas.
Criticism 2: Can't spare Calamitastwo.
rich ginkgo
people be finding any reason to be hate on calamity vro
yeah i think that in some cases reusing enemy AI's is a good way to save resources and not waste time
but rn it's just like, everything
coming off reused AI's 😭
distant raft
scorn eater is a slime
rich ginkgo
fuck scorn eater
tropic jolt
the evil scientist splicing dna of different monsters together to create abominations
fringe quiver
this had to be what fabsol felt like bro
TRUE
signus is like frankensteins monster he has like 3 different vanilla ais on him
fierce hearth
I personally actually liked the more vanilla-feel of Calamity bosses vs say... infernum design, however I do think that the ones that trended toward more focused "functions" were more interesting than ones that felt like just Vanilla+
pearl sentinel
signus is like frankensteins monster he has like 3 different vanilla ais on him
"on him" thats literally all signus is 😭
fringe quiver
Calamity bosses really do not feel vanilla honestly
I suppose that's subjective but also like
fierce hearth
Like I think PBG is yucky doodoo for just being Queen Bee 2, but I like Sclam
fringe quiver
Can you name any vanilla bosses that are just complete reuses of other bosses's code and aren't mech bosses ?
rich ginkgo
Calamity bosses really do *not* feel vanilla honestly
idk i agree they somehow do feel way different than vanilla even though they're literally just made up of vanilla ai
but that still isnt a good thing so like..
fringe quiver
Yeah because vanilla boss design has way more thought put into it than fabsol's boss design does to be honest
Idk why he insisted on making things "vanilla esque" by reusing vanilla ocde
when vanilla dosen't do that...
rich ginkgo
it's like how scientists have tried to make cross breeds of species or duplicate an animal and they'll stay alive for a couple months then die;
dont expect a mix of a bunch of random shit put together to work
fringe quiver
If i'm honest here
fierce hearth
That's... not how you do that. It's something I learned when poking my head into Minecraft modding. Most vanilla+ mods feel boring because they think "more of the same" is "vanilla feel" when vanilla was many varied new ideas
fringe quiver
If you compare more modern Terraria vanilla bosses such as Empress of Light to fabsolian bosses
The worst part of it all is how empress of light is a billion times more mechanically interesting and well designed than any of the calamity bosses that were designed that way to be "simple" and "vanilla like"
fierce hearth
Honestly yeah! I felt like Empress was such a good trendsetter for Relogic learning what people liked from modded Terraria boss design and it should have been a landmark moment to encourage people to get more creative
rich ginkgo
true
fringe quiver
Thankfully the Horse is gone so calamity bosses can actually be worked on by other people now
fierce hearth
The worst part of it all is how empress of light is a billion times more mechani...
I was gonna make an "it's okay to say—" joke but I realized that I couldn't decide which boss to name out of like 5
rich ginkgo
Thankfully the Horse is gone so calamity bosses can actually be worked on by oth...
yeah, all ive heard about doze's dog is amazing things
fringe quiver
This isn't meant to be a like jab at Calamity and going ooo fables better i'm of the Two Cakes mindset myself but i think in terms of boss design Fables is just a much better reference point for what modded bosses should be currently
rich ginkgo
im excited to get rid of the old and come in with the new
fringe quiver
And i look forward ot calamity bosses hopefully getting similar treatment
fringe quiver
im excited to get rid of the old and come in with the new
same !
Specially excited for my boy...
the humble scoog
fierce hearth
Honestly despite bosses being the Focus of Clam, it's not actually what I'm most excited for with SSO and subsequent updates
rich ginkgo
lol ive been excited for ds ever since i heard tobias talking about rotatable scales
idk if that's still planned but apparently rotatable scales that can be shot out at the player
fierce hearth
I'm most excited for the armor overhauls to really incentivize more interesting boss progression decisions and actually giving me a meaningful reason to class switch by having progression for different classes being asynchronous
It always felt awkward the few examples of that that did exist because they felt random and chafing instead of deliberate and natural
(ranged suddenly having progression kneecapped if you don't want to fight PBG)
rich ginkgo
something needs to be done about post ml progression asap
it feels way too much of a boss rush rn and in general it is just fast paced
earnest jewel
That's what Distortion is for, among other things probably.
fringe quiver
Yeah theres gonna be most post ml content thankfully
it'll be no longer boss rush land eventualçly
evil2 content, crags content too iirc, distortion, possibly a yharmy event?
and i assume just yeah a few new enemies all around the world
rich ginkgo
ive heard a lot about the yharmy thing
fierce hearth
Mhm, distortion fixes a lot of problems by giving physical space for post-ML progression that doesn't involve further crowding the main world with New Shit
strong isle
yeah, all ive heard about doze's dog is amazing things
It's not a miracle, given the fact we did not change the sprite or the basic premises of most attacks - but it's just current DoG done in a way that's so much better that it really deserves praise
fringe quiver
it was an idea triangle mentioned at one point and its not entirely confirmed afaik? but it seems p cool
and post ml is in dire need of actual new events tbf
rich ginkgo
It's not a miracle, given the fact we did not change the sprite or the basic pre...
ill take a fine tuned DoG
fringe quiver
It currently barely has any. You could argue acid rain tier 3 but like. it has 1 new enemy
strong isle
I haven't played Calamity in a while due to being busy
Despite that, I took the time to fight new DoG
And it was definitely worth it
fringe quiver
I do think the lack of events in post ml would be remedied with Triangle's proposed T3 Acid Rain rework which makes it an actually good and interesting event iwth new enemy variety + Yharmy
We don't need like 500000 of them tbf
summer shore
Yharmy is still real?
fringe quiver
Maybe?
rich ginkgo
it was an idea triangle mentioned at one point and its not entirely confirmed af...
yeah triangle was talking about it, then i heard that sir nautilus from fables was made by iban, then when proposed to fabsol he said the most he could do was dump the ai into some "yharmy soldier"
fierce hearth
I wouldn't mind something pillars-esque in the distortion, like you're inviting the extraterrestrial powers to challenge you to gain their strength, but obviously that's a loose idea
fringe quiver
Triangle talked about it but i think it's in a state where it'sn ot like. confirmed
it might happen tho
misty wren
It currently barely has any. You could argue acid rain tier 3 but like. it has 1...
no no no
one enemy! and two minibosses! and a boss!
rich ginkgo
yeah triangle was talking about it, then i heard that sir nautilus from fables w...
so it seems like plans for this have been a thing for quite a bit now?
misty wren
yharmy was a plan in like
2019 and then it got scrapped for a few years and its back now
rich ginkgo
ohh okay
strong isle
yeah triangle was talking about it, then i heard that sir nautilus from fables w...
Yep
I remember Fab being quite bothered about the complexity of Nautilus
earnest jewel
Where's that hobgoblin image.
fierce hearth
It'd be nice to see some love given to underground snow because it feels like the only part of the world that hasn't had any deliberate love for it in Calamity, which feels so strange considering how big it is.
earnest jewel
I'd assume it'd get something related to Permafrost.
strong isle
I wish
earnest jewel
Since he's a pretty undeveloped character right now.
rich ginkgo
Yep
I remember Fab being quite bothered about the complexity of Nautilus
nautilus is complex in a way that it's fun, you learn the attacks over each attempt
strong isle
Yeah!
earnest jewel
We don't know his motives, for instance, he's kinda just an old guy who commited war crimes and nobody seems to care about this.
strong isle
For context, I have had a video of Nautilus' fight since before 22 happened
rich ginkgo
it confuses me when the fun and learning is randomly ripped out of bosses because they're lategame and should just be annoyingly hard instead
it's not impossible to make hard bosses fun and learnable
i was taught that when i tried nine sols, the bosses get harder as you progress but each attempt is still learning EVERY time
strong isle
I really like the diversity of attacks in Nautilus' fight while remaining thematic and logical
It's definitely something to aim for when designing a miniboss or boss
rich ginkgo
yes
misty wren
2019 and then it got scrapped for a few years and its back now
for context this was scrapped i think back when demon trophy still existed
tropic jolt
silly and whimsical
vocal kelp
Hi I'm sir nautilus the auric knight
strong isle
Crazy
earnest jewel
I'm Dring Aedon.
summer shore
sir dreadnautilus
vocal kelp
yharmys never been properly scrapped or not scrapped
fierce hearth
I know I keep shitting on PBG but oh my god, it's such a perfect example imo for shoddy design in Calamity for being a hard to learn shitstorm. It's mostly just about having a loadout to shut down the spam.
vocal kelp
It was always in like lingering ultra hell of well wdk yharim isn't coming in sixty years
strong isle
yharmys never been properly scrapped or not scrapped
More or less
fierce hearth
Instead of having something for you to meaningfully learn
earnest jewel
It'll only take like, a decade probably to get him done.
rich ginkgo
I know I keep shitting on PBG but oh my *god*, it's such a perfect example imo f...
that's unfortunately the current state of most cal bosses
strong isle
Basically, the notion of a horde-style Yharmy has been scrapped for a while
rich ginkgo
there isnt much learning the attacks and getting better, it's just praying you dont unlucky
vocal kelp
I know I keep shitting on PBG but oh my *god*, it's such a perfect example imo f...
and she's one of the best bosses! Awesome!
strong isle
What Triangle suggested is a sort of tag-team Yharmy with a handful of soldiers instead of a legion
Which is a lot better
earnest jewel
Maybe it'd be like that Mantis boss from Hollow Knight where they all attack one after another, but probably have each unique somehow.
misty wren
i very much remember yharmy being said to have been scrapped
tropic jolt
the yharm squad
rich ginkgo
i remember learning how to dodge attacks in vanilla and then cal just hands you a shield and sword and says "goodluck bud"
earnest jewel
It's still on the upcoming content document.
fierce hearth
that's unfortunately the current state of most cal bosses
My last run I realized the best stat in calamity is everything movement, because most bosses are just about outpacing their attacks, instead of deliberate tactics
strong isle
Yeah, that was the time between horde being scrapped and tag-team being suggested
fierce hearth
How do you beat the exos? Move very fast diagonally
misty wren
yes
strong isle
God, Exos....
vocal kelp
and she's one of the best bosses! Awesome!
Bar so low limbo champion couldn't beat it
earnest jewel
How do you beat the exos? Move very fast diagonally
Peak design, obviously.
summer shore
How do you beat the exos? Move very fast diagonally
Erm ackshually it's now walk in a straight line
earnest jewel
Then the eyes hit you.
rich ginkgo
i feel like fab 100% could have come up with something better for scal rather than her shooting projectiles, and every phase it's just MORE projectiles
earnest jewel
So like, a good 45 degree angle is the meta. Sometimes adjust.
vocal kelp
i feel like fab 100% could have come up with something better for scal rather th...
low-key he couldn't
earnest jewel
She should have a gun.
vocal kelp
Fabs most designed thing is probably like current profaned guardians
Bar is in the abyss
strong isle
Enjoying the natural terrain of your world? Well, not anymore!
Relish in the countless kilometers of flattened ground and trimmed grass!
rich ginkgo
all mega beam blasts go to infernum sorry
strong isle
Fabs most designed thing is probably like current profaned guardians
Which had a bit of my feedback
fierce hearth
Scal is trained by one of the greatest wizards in history, fought in the most powerful army of history, and is the most magically potent being in history.
What does she do?
Hurl fireballs directly at you, never leading her shots.
earnest jewel
I did think it would be cool if Calamitas used other types of magic to back up her Brimstone attacks, since she's meant to be very good at magic by this point. Like, not as main attacks, but like using ice magic to slow you down so you're easier to hit.
misty wren
scal is actually fairly uniquely designed all things considered
rich ginkgo
Scal is trained by one of the greatest wizards in history, fought in the most po...
this?? look at dr strange in marvel the shit he throws at you is like an acid trip
and then there's scal, the "greatest mage"
tropic jolt
give calamitas some gravity magic I want to fight radahn again
earnest jewel
Have her use lightning to mess with your wings.
summer shore
More scal minions
fringe quiver
See bullet hell can work
strong isle
I feel like SCal is a case of untouched potential
fringe quiver
the problem is that cal's bullet hell suck to be honest
strong isle
Like most bosses, tbf
fierce hearth
Her brothers, who are canonically near-thoughtless husks, are better shots than Scal is
silk terrace
Didnt Archmage taught SCal or smth why is there no ice magic
earnest jewel
Didnt Archmage taught SCal or smth why is there no ice magic
That's what I'm saying!
fringe quiver
the problem is that cal's bullet hell suck to be honest
A good bullet hell has you learn a pattern and find ways to best avoid it
rich ginkgo
i guess two different types of magic can still only cast the same spells
which is
weird
fringe quiver
Cal bullet hell dosen't have that bc theres no patterns n it just projectiles coming from random directions
earnest jewel
Even if it's weaker then her main attacks, she should be able to use other kinds of magic as support for her main attacks.
fringe quiver
It's not that scal can only cast the spells she fights you with
fierce hearth
I sincrerely doubt someone who is cursed with the unrivaled power of brimstone could channel ice
earnest jewel
Like, we use support weapons sometimes, why doesn't she.
fringe quiver
It's because they're the strongest lol
strong isle
Her brimstone magic and necromancy are a lot more powerful
That said, it would be interesting to have more variety, yeah
earnest jewel
Like, why doesn't she hit us with ichor to lower our defence.
misty wren
ice magic sucks
like im sorry it just sucks theres a reason cryogen is either a nightmare or a complete pushover depending on if you're using a singular potion
summer shore
it's really just why bother with ice and lightning when fireball hurts the most
fringe quiver
it's really just why bother with ice and lightning when fireball hurts the most
yep ^
tropic jolt
Like, why doesn't she hit us with ichor to lower our defence.
she knows that the developers have already added defense damage to aid her
rich ginkgo
ok but fireball is lame
earnest jewel
Like, I get that she's best at Brimstone. But she's supposed to be very good at magic in general. She should be able to hit us with curveballs.
summer shore
You're lame
strong isle
Narrative value and coolness factor smh....
fierce hearth
Make cooler fire
strong isle
Imagine if Frieren vs. Frieren was just chucking fireballs
rich ginkgo
not just FIREBALL! FIREBALL! FIREBALL!
earnest jewel
Why doesn't she Snowgrave us.
tropic jolt
if i was dubbed the greatest mage in all of calamity id wanna have some aura
wearing a cool robe and burning it at the start of every fight
fierce hearth
Give her the nightmare grim spikes smh my head
summer shore
Fabsol sucks at coming up with cool fireballs
fierce hearth
Like make the tiny arena more interesting by giving her attacks that meaningfully interact with the walls
summer shore
True
tropic jolt
Like make the tiny arena more interesting by giving her attacks that meaningfull...
like gfb moon lord?
earnest jewel
Cover the walls in ice spikes that slow you down or something.
tropic jolt
😁