calamity-update-talk

[fathom girder]

pluh :(

[thick coyote]

What is this minecraft rip off

no one will play this

[dull heart]

I've got hopes

it looks peak

[thick coyote]

if u want aminecraft rip off that bad go play castle miner smh

[halcyon seal]

made by some smbx dev idk

who cares

skyward sword is coming out as well

[tropic jolt]

taking away all of minecrafts creative freedom by limiting the game to two dimensions... this game will be a failure for sure

[mystic eagle]

Did you see the announcement of Monado: Beginning of the World? It looks really promising.

[drowsy reef]

Could be a neat release probably won’t get any sequels but if it did I don’t think they’d fuck it up by trying to introduce multiverse nonsense and tying things together in a way that’s really unnecessary

[wide nova]

the og is back

thats all u guys need to know

[arctic cliff]

The real truth is that social media, especially discord for some reason, is a weird place where people of greatly varying ages can just interact.

[lusty stirrup]

what does this even mean 😭🙏

[arctic cliff]

It's easy to forget that when people don't go around and ask for your age, unless you're in Fabsol's NSFW server.

[pulsar cobalt]

seahorse scutiny

duh

[lusty stirrup]

oh yeah

[wide nova]

no i mean a person

[pulsar cobalt]

u syaiung my guy cnidrion isnt a person

[wide nova]

yes

i am cnidrist

[pulsar cobalt]

whaty the fuck

[wide nova]

LMAO i cant believe i just said that

[pulsar cobalt]

how dar ethey lte someone liker you on the team

[summer shore]

I'm tsukist

[pulsar cobalt]

oh hi alt

FVUCK YOU

[summer shore]

hi

[wide nova]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[pulsar cobalt]

hey alt can u believe they let a cnidrist on the dev team

smh

where are

their fucking

idk

morals????

[summer shore]

morals

[wide nova]

EYES

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[summer shore]

Morays

[wide nova]

they couldnt SEE the HOLES in their AGREEMENT.

[summer shore]

I can believe it

[pulsar cobalt]

MORAY EEL BESTIARY

[pulsar cobalt]

the fuck

dont tell me

ur alsopa cndirtist

[summer shore]

alsopa

cn dirtist

I'm saying the REST of the dev team is also cnidrist not that I am cnidrist

tsupid

They treat cnidrion as a mere steed....

a slave of labor...

[pulsar cobalt]

UQR A MEER STEED

L:IKE MR BALLS

[summer shore]

I am unlike mister balls in any way

[pulsar cobalt]

ur a steed

[summer shore]

you're a PEED

[gentle cliff]

wait altraxia is a horse?

[summer shore]

Hi dai

[pulsar cobalt]

he is now

[gentle cliff]

congratulations on discovering yourself

[summer shore]

no I KILL horses

charon introduction will involve HORSE DEATH

[pulsar cobalt]

ywaso u could wear their sikn

[gentle cliff]

we'll support you on your horse journey no matter where it takes you altraxia.

[summer shore]

no.

[gentle cliff]

and believe, me, those hooves can take you far.

[summer shore]

I will not be an umamusuko

[pulsar cobalt]

urumamauseme

[summer shore]

urmamamusume

[pulsar cobalt]

go be horse and do horse things then be a fuckind idol for msoe reaon???

[arctic cliff]

ummumasumuemmaumusimausmauummumurasama

[gentle cliff]

whats am uno mama suki or whatever you just said

what does this word mean

[pulsar cobalt]

umamusuke are like

so

its hard to describe but

[summer shore]

umamusume is horse girl umamusuko is horse boy

[vivid hemlock]

umamusume

[pulsar cobalt]

i want u to kow this isnt me being fake or smthn its real

so like

sometimes horse people are born

theyre like people and horses

they run like horses

and they do horsre racing

they go to horse school i think too

[summer shore]

like you

you go to horse school

[pulsar cobalt]

thy also do an idol dance whenever they win the championships i think

for some reason

[gentle cliff]

tsuki what the hay are you talking about

[misty wren]

isnt umamusume like an isekai for famous racehorses

[summer shore]

you met mr balls on a fine autumn evening in 9th grade

[pulsar cobalt]

yes!

i think

idk actually

they do use the names of actual race horeses tho

like irl ones

[misty wren]

yeah

they use the names and base the characters off the actual horses iirc

[arctic cliff]

wait

do the racehorses exist in the same world before they reincarnate into the horsegirls

[misty wren]

isekai

so no

i dont believe so

[arctic cliff]

I dunno do you play the horsegirl game

[desert path]

The only thing I know about umamusume is that horses don't exist

[arctic cliff]

oh okay

that explains things

(i still dont remember what this sticker is referencing)

(for the longest time this was the literal only sticker in calcord, and i had no clue what it was referencing)

[misty wren]

not yet

someday

[arctic cliff]

not yet?

[summer shore]

how many gachas have you played doober

[arctic cliff]

[misty wren]

currently its around 14

[pulsar cobalt]

all of them

[summer shore]

damn.

I didn't know there were 14 gachas out there

[desert path]

I remember when gachapon was just a predatory maplestory mechanic and funny boxes in a few stores

How far it has gone...

[dull heart]

how many gachas have I played

probably like 5 idk

[arctic cliff]

WAIT

[late eagle]

6

7

8

[dull heart]

I only stuck with zzz though

[arctic cliff]

9

[late eagle]

Maybe 20

[arctic cliff]

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

[desert path]

I've tried each hoyo gacha but I only stuck to HSR

[dull heart]

FE Heros I literally just boot up every once in a while and do the billions of free pills they give me

[misty wren]

why are we counting can we not be counting

[hazy pine]

i play cookie run

[dull heart]

nope it was 6

[arctic cliff]

join us john mage

18

[hazy pine]

👀

[arctic cliff]

19

20

[desert path]

ZZZ was cool for a while but that endgame

[arctic cliff]

okay im gonna stop jk

[dull heart]

ZZZ and Project Neural Cloud were the only two that stuck with me

[misty wren]

ive played nearly all hoyo games

[dull heart]

I want to get back into hi3

[misty wren]

missing out on two, one of which doesnt have global servers anymore and the other is tears of themis which is hoyos forgotten unloved mobile exclusive child

[dull heart]

I remember the bit of HI3 I played being actually really good

[misty wren]

hi3 is very good yes

[dull heart]

genshin lost me pretty quickly despite the premise being fantastic

[desert path]

HSR lore has me hooked so I still play it

[misty wren]

powercreep has also slowed down tremendously

[dull heart]

ZZZ wins me off of my animation nerd side alone because that game does animation so insanely well

[desert path]

Genshin is too little substance for how much form it has

[misty wren]

i just want wuwa movement in genshin

[hasty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/r-tachyon-ume-musume-uma-musume-horse-gif-6355441694660360746

[dull heart]

I've heard good things about wuwa but don't actually know anything about it

[misty wren]

wuwa movement is goated

[hasty hawk]

how good is Umamusume?

might get it tbh

[desert path]

Wuwa's combat is good in that each 5* has unique combat

[signal night]

peak

[dull heart]

I've heard amazing things about it but also never plan to touch it

[misty monolith]

same

[dull heart]

(to the horse one not to wuwa)

[misty wren]

its like genshin but they went into more direct combat stuff rather than teambuilding

[dull heart]

I see

I never even got far enough for genshin team building or combat to matter

[misty wren]

essentially swapping out reactions for a more fleshed out direct combat system

[dull heart]

idk how to describe the vibe I get from genshin

[vivid hemlock]

its pretty good and its a roguelite

[dull heart]

it's like botw but like... not as interesting to me

and I can't pinpoint why

[misty wren]

its almost extremely good

it just does some things that keep it back and doesnt do some things that would make it better

[dull heart]

I think I just wanna do the exploring part of botw and genshin has too much structure or something

[desert path]

It feels less alive once you get away from the cities

[dull heart]

idk I hated the first adventure rank grind to get out of mondstat or whatever

[misty wren]

thankfully there are only like 2 of those

[dull heart]

as soon as I did I traveled all the way to some desert and that was cool but once I got there I just never picked the game up again

[misty wren]

oh sumeru

[dusk bronze]

poiler

[misty wren]

primary example time locked domains

and 3 different boss drops

(most talent materials are time locked to specific days of the week and all weapon specific upgrade materials are too)

[dull heart]

I should boot back up neural cloud

I bet there's more story chapters now

but first I need to boot back up ZZZ for the first time in two weeks because IM GONNA MISS ALICE AGH

Alice is so fun to play imo

[misty wren]

im just saving for reruns tbh none of the new characters interest me

[dull heart]

I almost pulled yuzuha

parry support woohoo

but I wanted to save for Alice bc I have as much fun with her as I did playing vivian burnice astra or playing yixuan

[desert path]

I saved from the game's launch for Miyabi and only got 2 copies of her

So that made me sad and I played less after the first story arc ended

[misty wren]

2.0 was pretty bad i dont blame you

[late eagle]

My honkai impact era...

[white aurora]

gacha game talk...

i only play 2 gacha games

battle cats and limbus company :3

[desert path]

Battle cats is goated

[dull heart]

I hope 2.2 is good

[lyric trellis]

Thought that was about Cal 2.2 or GD for a second

[dull heart]

lol

[tropic jolt]

anyone who has ever played gd now fears all 2.2 versions

[dull heart]

cal 2.2 will be peak because I'm a cal dev now

[lyric trellis]

Need to get 2.1 out first though

[misty wren]

nahhhhhhh

we can skip 2.1

[tropic jolt]

but then we wont get fingerdash

[dull heart]

haha funny joke

There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no 2.1.

[silk terrace]

11

[dull heart]

fixed that

[tropic jolt]

sunken sea overhaul part 5

[still bluff]

get this mesage to 22 fire reactions cst

[tropic jolt]

25 fire reactions or 2.1 NEVER releases

this is a threat

[iron dew]

if there's an Overdone and a Done... where's Underdone???

[wicked temple]

5 defense

[dusty tinsel]

If you don't put a fire emoji we should start banning /j

[hazy pine]

someone do water emoji

[main falcon]

The calamity endgame accessory before the reworks where like

50 defense

7 regen

I do like the new ones

I still await for the bloody worm scarf upgrade counterpart of the amalgam

Even though it probably won't happen

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

doomsday is in 22 hours

[hexed basalt]

wrong

[thorny glacier]

am i wrong🤔

[summer shore]

That's what done said yes

[thorny glacier]

and i was wrong

[thorny glacier]

doomsday is in a day and 22 hours

[native thistle]

Changelogs™ soon™.™

[thorny glacier]

i think i should detonate rn

[cobalt wharf]

theyre still like this after the reworks

re: radiance

[lyric trellis]

The bigger issue by far was when stuff was a combination of 50 projectile effects and then 2 are useful

[lyric trellis]

Now what bast statue

[hushed hazel]

now we go yay yippee yay

[still bluff]

now you'd get a spoiler if i'd done anything recently

[lyric trellis]

Spoiler on all the whips you balanced

[main falcon]

Nah

Old endgame defensive accories are like a fusion of current radiance and the absorber

[still bluff]

leather whip is the only one that's been done* iirc but we can't really do anything till vanilla adds new reforges, so even that is still totally getting changed
great summoner rebalance has been in limbo for a while now because of that lol

it's at 8 base damage and 4 tag i believe, i don't think it's been changed since

[lyric trellis]

Rogue update 3 years ahead of schedule

[hexed basalt]

lmao

[thorny glacier]

25 reacts yippee

[stone fiber]

And this is peak as usual

[dull grove]

What?

Why pre hm

[cunning sequoia]

planned retier

dragonfolly to prehardmode and evil2 to post-moon lord

[dull grove]

Damn wtg

[spark kiln]

is that like actually planned

[cunning sequoia]

Last time I heard yeah

[dull grove]

Hive mind and perfo?

[cunning sequoia]

ye

[dull grove]

Damn lol

[cunning sequoia]

its still in the planning phase tho so not guaranteed to happen but from what i heard its very likely

[dusk bronze]

ozz told vanillin to put it in the spoiler doc so

basically confirmed

[spark kiln]

nice

[grand sandal]

sona prime or voidragon

[cinder hearth]

Contagion would be the better option, as would svantechnical

[grand sandal]

ive stuck myself to the voidragon when doing boss rush

[spark kiln]

contagion is the best

[grand sandal]

right

also can anyone tell me what this is

[spark kiln]

metastasis

[grand sandal]

is it good, mid, or straight up dookie

[spark kiln]

it’s a summon

[grand sandal]

ik

[spark kiln]

it takes like 10 minion slots

it’s good i guess

[grand sandal]

i have demonshade so

[cinder hearth]

It's alright, not amazing, but cool

[grand sandal]

how do i get it tho, item browser mod aint telling me

ok nvm

[still bluff]

yea, it's still a "probably" but not a i'm killing anyone who mentions it as fact probably

[stuck kite]

it's like a solid chance but not guaranteed

[distant raft]

4

[spark kiln]

o

i was thinking of ares exoskeleton then

[distant raft]

exoskeleton is 3 per arm

[spark kiln]

yea 12 total

[distant raft]

endogenesis is the 10 cost single summon

and cosmic immaterializer

[queen umbra]

I swear if they somehow get me through a wall while I'm poking it with a shortsword
#spoilers message

[honest vine]

What?

wtf

evil2 are well tiered rn

[dusk bronze]

0/10 ragebait

die

[honest vine]

fym ragebait

i like their tier rn

[orchid finch]

Nobody does

[honest vine]

i do

im the 1 person that does smh

[orchid finch]

Imagine fighting an evil boss and then fighting an evil boss 2 right after it

[honest vine]

make a calamity exclusively for me smh

[dusk bronze]

it's objectively the most shit tiering of anything ever

[honest vine]

im perfectly fine with it

im prob saying this cuz im so used to it

[orchid finch]

No wait that's Plantera and Golem

[honest vine]

but dragonfolly prehm??

draedon didnt do that terrible by cloning yharon

atLEAST make it preml

[orchid finch]

It's not a Yharon clone anymore iirc

[honest vine]

or post plant

[dusk bronze]

insert [calamity summoning 200 unnamed superfans of a feature nobody likes]

[honest vine]

what???

wtf

[orchid finch]

It's like some stupid draconic offshoot

[dusk bronze]

old lore

[honest vine]

iirc last time i read lore it was yharon's clone that kept breeding

wtf

[dusk bronze]

that waa 3 years ago

[orchid finch]

When was that, if I may ask

[honest vine]

elaborate i wanna expand my lore knowledge

[orchid finch]

#lore-discussion

[honest vine]

year ago prob

[dusk bronze]

dragon descendants without auric souls

[honest vine]

ok hop on there

[dusk bronze]

what

[orchid finch]

That can't be right

[dusk bronze]

it changed in feb 2023

[honest vine]

idk its fine ill update myself

[orchid finch]

No just read the pins, you'd have enough info from that

[honest vine]

hop on lore discussion

oh ok

[orchid finch]

I'm not a lore consultant

[dusk bronze]

i am

[orchid finch]

My brain is still filled with old lore so I can confuse some things

Imagine being old smh

[honest vine]

so like

dragonfolly is just a fucking

bootleg dragon

this new lore sucks

i want birb lore back

[dusk bronze]

that's literally what it was before

[honest vine]

yea but it was the clone of yharon and it failed or sm shit

[cunning sequoia]

yeah so it was a copy of calclone

[honest vine]

yes

[cunning sequoia]

literally the exact same fcking lore

🔥

[honest vine]

imo im fine with that

like

[dusk bronze]

[cunning sequoia]

youre also fine with both evil biome bosses being right next to each other so

something something hakita quote

[dusk bronze]

draconic offshoots expand the world so much

[honest vine]

maybe draedon tried to improve his cloning technique

or maybe he wanted to test it on different specimen

[pseudo pine]

yeah that was a ridiculous design choice

[honest vine]

im probably just used to them being post evil1

[pseudo pine]

"Where do we put the second evil boss? RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST ONE." -My friend in a YT video

[honest vine]

at a point im sure that ill agree with those future changes

[dusk bronze]

calamity players when literally anything changes

[honest vine]

leme stick to old stuff smh

i dont understand dragonfolly being in prehm tho

most dragon offshoots are in hardmode

[pseudo pine]

its not a very strong offshoot

[cunning sequoia]

helps make them more varied from the others

[hushed hazel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955000367970664479/1360565856584597647/togif-23.gif?=

[honest vine]

oh ok

[hushed hazel]

can we stop calling everyone who disagrees with cal changes a ragebaiter

[honest vine]

thank you

and that is an ultrakill pfp

and i love you alrdy

[hushed hazel]

it is not

[honest vine]

wha

[cunning sequoia]

[hushed hazel]

but it is ultrakill inspired

[cunning sequoia]

wtf

[honest vine]

i still love you

[cunning sequoia]

me when nitro chooses an emote from a different server

[pseudo pine]

it also makes more sense for aerialite
what makes more sense to unlock it: a flying creature or... whatever the hell the perforators are or a hive mind thats a part of a completely unrelated biome

[honest vine]

actuslly jumpscared me

[hushed hazel]

i've seen this happen so many times

[dusk bronze]

i have done it exactly twice
i feel it's warranted here given how absolutely shit the design is

[hushed hazel]

someone will come here and go "i don't get why they're doing [future plan] i don't think it makes sense" and people start throwing rocks at them for no reason calling them a ragebaiter

[hushed hazel]

💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

some people are going to disagree no matter what

[honest vine]

minnows prime

[hushed hazel]

not everyone's idea of how the mod should look is gonna entirely align with the devs' vision and that's Not a problem

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.fandom.com/wiki/Minnows_Prime

[dusk bronze]

what

[smoky lance]

I don't feel it's ever warranted because it makes the argument shift from disagreeing with the changes, to attacking the individual.

[stone fiber]

Hey guys
So I can't remember, but has the Slime God and Cal Clone retier been confirmed already (like the folly/evil 2 retier) or is just in planned/being considered for now?

[dusk bronze]

there is nothing to argue
there are no positives

[hushed hazel]

just being considered i think

[dusk bronze]

very very not confirmed

[hushed hazel]

it becomes an argument when you entirely dismiss their opinion by downplaying it as "ragebait"

[stone fiber]

Oh right, it's Noxus isn't it?

[steel socket]

I would say it stops being a proper argument at that point

[hushed hazel]

you could've literally just explained why there are "no positives" but instead you turned it into an attack on them as a person by implying it's impossible for anyone to genuinely believe swapping evil2s and folly is weird

[smoky lance]

Even if you feel this way, dismissing their stance by calling it ragebait is nothing but an attack on the individual

[dusk bronze]

strange how nobody cared this much before

[hushed hazel]

dude i have literally argued with you over this exact thing before

[dusk bronze]

i don't rember that at all

whatever

[hushed hazel]

me getting annoyed at this is very much not a new thing

and it's not just you either, this is something i've seen multiple people do lately and it is just as annoying every time

[covert vessel]

Guten morgen

[fathom girder]

medic speak

[bronze shale]

CDMUSIC HAS SLAIN THE INFERNUM D.O.G, GALILEO GLADIUS IS FUCKING META, SPREAD THE WORD

[wise bolt]

HUZZAAAHHHHHHHH

[halcyon seal]

Galileo Gladius will be meta in (insert SSO release day here)

[lapis oak]

What

[wicked pewter]

It's sooo funny that when faced with any cricitism at all , instead of making logical arguments, die hard calbros just jumps to antagonizing people for no real reason

[azure oak]

tomorrow the time between BH and SSO part 1 will have been longer than between R&D and draedon update

[sterile sundial]

wouldnt it make sense for evil2 to be hardmode

what justifies their presence in the post ml pantheon

[azure oak]

hardmode is packed enough

[halcyon seal]

Gives more non-boss content I think

Like evil biomes can actually get new stuff post-ml

[lapis oak]

Hardmode is super condensne in bosses

There's no rooms

[halcyon seal]

In general anything that makes post-ml less of a boss rush is a good change imo

[lapis oak]

Also early hardmode does give Evil new contents

[azure oak]

evil2's still gonna be a boss

[halcyon seal]

Well yeah obv

But there’s also clearly gonna have to be some other content to go along with them

[spark kiln]

no

[halcyon seal]

It’d be very weird if everything else stayed the same, but hive cysts spawn now

[lapis oak]

So introducing more evil contents post ML helps with spreading it out, makes progression not too close together, and keeps evil relevance for longer

[halcyon seal]

Idea, what boss do you want to see tier shifted that hasn’t been confirmed for a tier shift yet

[sterile sundial]

alright but it already doesnt make sense for a fish to be on the scale of eldritch beings even if nobody cares about that so it just doesnt really make sense to me that we are just going to slap hive mind/perforators after moon lord from a lore continuity perspective aside from gameplay

[lapis oak]

What fish?

[sterile sundial]

old duke

[spark kiln]

that’s not what’s happening

[sterile sundial]

although draconic whatever

[spark kiln]

they’re being reworked and redesigned

[azure oak]

old duke's getting effectively replaced with a new boss at some point

[halcyon seal]

Old Duke is getting discombobulated anyways

[spark kiln]

they’re not going to be slapped onto post moonlord

[azure oak]

and hive mind and perforators are a combination of a lot of god corpses trying to regain their former power

[lapis oak]

Isn't Old Duke the strongest offshoot that still alive besides PW

Don't know if PW is even an offshoot anymore

Bro is strong

[halcyon seal]

Idk what Old Duke even is I’m not into lore like that but, he’s kind of a dragon right

[lapis oak]

Yes

[halcyon seal]

If nothing else I know dragons are a big deal

[azure oak]

old duke is from the draconic era, so easily many hundreds of years old

[steel socket]

Didnt know he was old

[azure oak]

praying that triangle's idea for the evil rogue armors goes through

[wicked pewter]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't

[dusk bronze]

there actually would be if you retiered aquatic scourge and deus but that's not realistic

i even made a mockup progression list

[lapis oak]

The one he made long ago?

Those are scrapped

[azure oak]

i meant how you get it

[lapis oak]

Oh

That could be fun

[dusk bronze]

posted yesterday or the day before

i forgor

[lapis oak]

Like 2 days ago or something

[dull heart]

In the main dev build the tag dmg is 2

for now

[lapis oak]

2?

[dusk bronze]

2

[hard hearth]

22

[fathom girder]

An extra 2 damage with flinxes is funny

[grand sandal]

what do i now do with the rock i got from boss rush

i have like 3 now

dont ask

[hard hearth]

you cant do anything with it

other than toss it into a chest

[orchid finch]

make a rock shrine out of rock to worship your rock while being surrounded by the rock

[grand sandal]

rock

[real axle]

do boss rush 8000 more times and you'll be able to reconstruct the Dragon Aerie

[distant raft]

cant you place it down

[white aurora]

yes

[honest vine]

wtf

caloverhaul got an update

i thought that mod was dead

[distant raft]

sadly it got revived

[real axle]

very sadly

[dusk bronze]

[honest vine]

isnt the dev team horrible there

the showcased weapons look ok so far, im surprised

[distant raft]

the good weapons are stolen

[honest vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuR5xEf2yb0 4:06 nevermind

[honest vine]

love how i can tell whats stolen

right before 4:06 theres just a basic ass chainsaw

[distant raft]

"murasama rework" and its just a stars above weapon

and it also removes any reason to use a different melee weapon

[white aurora]

it's murasama unbalanced af in it

[late eagle]

Scissorsama

[honest vine]

the weapons look overdone

uh wait

that doesnt make sense

they are too flashy

there we go

[halcyon seal]

It genuinely feels like a dev test weapon

Like the 1.0 Zapinator

[dull heart]

coldheart icicle

[hard hearth]

old legendary weapons

back when they scaled per boss kill

[dusk bronze]

old halibut cannon

yes

also wrong chat

[grand sandal]

ahit

oop

[arctic cliff]

Say that again.

[lean relic]

Primordial Wyrm when bro saw someone with Coldheart Icicle and Purified Jam

[brave star]

That

[viral merlin]

Future DoG

[dusk bronze]

no

[viral merlin]

Better yet

Reworked Future DoG

[hasty tangle]

devourer of universes 2

devourer of multiverses

[brave star]

There can’t be Devourer of Omniverse

Bc there’s the Paracosmic Fears and Wonders

[viral merlin]

Devourer of Fargo Years

[spark kiln]

what

[brave star]

Oh it’s a complex lore thing related to the Omniverse

Desolo Zantas made said lore

[cunning sequoia]

incomprehensible

may god have mercy upon your wretched soul

[brave star]

Jokes on you, God was already at the mercy of DoG

[nocturne crater]

incomprehensible

[spark kiln]

im gonna pretend i know what the omniverse is

[earnest jewel]

I didn't watch that season of Ben 10.

[rich ginkgo]

isnt it just like, universe —> multiverse —> omniverse

[spark kiln]

that’s not making any more sense

[rich ginkgo]

meaning that an omniverse is infinite multiverses

inside of it

and a multiverse is infinite universes

inside of it

[spark kiln]

so why is there lore

[rich ginkgo]

…i have 0 clue

the multiverse thing alone is just a large theory

a lot of comics and shows endorse it though

like marvel

[earnest jewel]

Where's the universe where SSO is tomorrow?

[hasty tangle]

under there

[white aurora]

under where?

[wide nova]

if i was still called universe id say right here

[hasty tangle]

[white aurora]

[lean relic]

under wear

[rich ginkgo]

there’s an alternate reality in a different universe where yharim is the first boss you fight

and also one where draedon is john wulfrum

an alternate reality where silksong came out before hollow knight and another where calamity is vanilla while terraria is the mod

[pulsar cobalt]

spoiler due to how horrifying the thought is
||theres a universe where we got a fabsolian yharim||

[rich ginkgo]

||cirrus replaces yharim fully and becomes the last boss of the mod||

🤢

[lean relic]

Worst thing possible

What a calamity

[rich ginkgo]

i think there’s genuinely a chance id get a nightmare where the entire thing is just yharim being either coded by the one who shall be left unnamed, or just cirrus

[misty wren]

i wonder what vanilla ais would be chopped up for that

probably uhh

big ones i can think of are eoc and biome mimic

[fringe quiver]

fabsolian yharim would have paladin ai but he'd have duke fishron dashes where he lunges forward with his sword aswell as biome mimic charges

hed also have a mandatory bullet hell phase

[hushed hazel]

isn't paladin fighter ai

[misty wren]

yes

paladin is fighter ai with projectiles

[fringe quiver]

paladin is just fighter ai with projectils yep

[white aurora]

goblin warlock ai

[misty wren]

fairly unique projectiles by vanilla standards but still just fighter ai with projectiles

[fringe quiver]

i still remember how he didnt want to make unqiue boss ai to make it "feel vanilal" and thats so weird to me

vanilla dosent reuse ai for their bosses ??/

like

the only ones that do are

mechs

[misty wren]

and eow

[white aurora]

but those are also very obviously supposed to be similar

[misty wren]

eow uses vanilla worm ai

[white aurora]

if empress was made by fabsol she would just have ice queen ai :3

[misty wren]

we

already knew this

providence exists

[white aurora]

true

[stuck kite]

i mean they use concepta

there is a small corruption worm

small eyes

small vine appendage plant

[halcyon seal]

i bet itd be cultist and queen bee

[fringe quiver]

oh wait true cutlist

[misty wren]

nah i dont think itd be cultist

[valid crypt]

Yharim casting spells💔

[stuck kite]

yall knocking the possibility of fabsolian yharim being taken from other games as he clued at and it would be uncanny as fuck in the terraria setting

im pretty sure both games he planned to have taken from are. 3d.

yeah good luck with that one

[misty wren]

mgrr is what was the other one

[valid crypt]

Minos prime i think

[stuck kite]

ultrakill

[misty wren]

oh

yeah

yeah neither of those would work very well

[buoyant pulsar]

golem ai

malice golem ai

[stuck kite]

2d minos prime

(every attack rungoddable)

[buoyant pulsar]

the thought makes sense. i imagine the fight like mithrix as well

just don't see how it would work in 2d

especially executed by him lol

[fathom girder]

As minos prime would say,

"DIE"

[rich ginkgo]

yeah it fr just isnt the same without the bullet hells

noo my 4 scal bullet hells in a row 😢😢😢

if the final boss isnt tedious as fuck with its attacks it is NOT good

[hazy pine]

Is there a planned method to get into the aerie as it's kind of an important thing for a story

[rich ginkgo]

idk i dont think so

[hazy pine]

Damn

[valid crypt]

Arena for yharim is the plan iirc
But we dunno how we will

[rich ginkgo]

draedon says he thinks its a pocket dimension while im pretty sure its actually hinted at as a sky island somewhere

the sky island part is what ive heard from other people

no clue how we get there

[halcyon seal]

we arrive and realize yharim is already dead. he forgot to adjust to the lower atmospheric pressure like 7000 feet in the sky and suffocated to death. dumbass lmao

[rich ginkgo]

we get to the aerie and as soon as the aerie loads and physics kick in he’s immediately crushed and explodes right infront of us from the pressure while our godlike selves stay immune

[tropic jolt]

probably just a post yharon subworld

there will probably be some story thing where you have to talk to calamitas and draedon maybe

[rich ginkgo]

dont they both currently say they explicitly cant help you and dont even know how to anyways

[tropic jolt]

subtle reference to the fact that yharim isnt in the game yet!!!

[rich ginkgo]

“you wish to reach the tyrant but i cannot assist you in that” or whatever

[rich ginkgo]

thanks for clarifying, didnt know that

i actually havent gotten to hardmode yet in any of my play throughs

[tropic jolt]

wow really

[rich ginkgo]

no i beat the game for the 20th-ish time last night

[tropic jolt]

yharim is so far away that anything regarding him is just speculative at the moment even if its from a developer

[valid crypt]

I doubt calamitas and draedon will know how to once yharim gets added

[valid crypt]

Thats true

[tropic jolt]

we're going to go through at least 3 major updates before yharim is added

[rich ginkgo]

yeah idk why they’d pull a wotg where he just happens to have a seed or whatever it is to spawn the aoe

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean draedon literally tells u "ur on ur own dumbfuck" twice in his end fight monologue and in draetalk

[rich ginkgo]

“i just happen to have this teleporter to get to the aerie BUTTTT you have to fight another mech for it loser”

[tropic jolt]

well if draedon told you that he did know a way to reach yharim players might get the idea that yharim IS in the game

[rich ginkgo]

they could also just not talk about said tyrant in general lmao

“you wish to reach the tyrant” that makes players believe there is a tyrant in game already you have to fight (hint, there isnt)

i think they’re just clarifying they have 0 clue how to help you either way but uhh like you said this is content coming years from now so it’ll probably be changed anyways

[tropic jolt]

yharim has been memed so much I would be surprised if anybody who beats the mod somehow doesnt know who he is

[pulsar cobalt]

the writers knew wat they were writing in draetalk

[hazy pine]

I'm asking cuz I'm writing a cal story and yhar is there so

Wanna be canon accurate

[pulsar cobalt]

if they wanted draedon to help the player with finding the aerie, they wouldnt have written it in a way that gurantees it to be retconned

[valid crypt]

^
They wanna avoid retcons

[rich ginkgo]

if i were you, id just go off currently existing info even if there’s a 99% chance of it being changed for the actual update years from now

gotta make do with what you’ve got

[pulsar cobalt]

the aerie will be a subworld, we dont know how it will be unlocked or reached

[rich ginkgo]

unless you dont mind waiting a decade

[tropic jolt]

the day calamity adds subworlds will be an interesting one for sure

the amount of multiplayer bugs...

[rich ginkgo]

it’ll be peak

that’s what

[earnest jewel]

Considering it's some kind of otherworld and heavily associated with the dragons, I'd assume it would require a portal and the power of a dragon to access, not somewhere you can just walk into.

[fathom girder]

Yharim shows up

grabs you by the throat

and throws you into the aerie

[earnest jewel]

Simple, you make an Auric-Exo portal, and use Calamitas as a battery.

She'll be fine.

[rich ginkgo]

otherworld..? say that again…

[fathom girder]

Just kinda. shove her in the battery slot

she's small

she'll fit

[earnest jewel]

5"4', that's like, the height of a particularly tall ten year old.

[rich ginkgo]

yeah but what if we need to obtain auric from the aerie first

what’s plan B chief

[fathom girder]

sir auric ore spawns after yharon

we good

[rich ginkgo]

yeah but what if it’s updated to have auric spawn in the aerie after yharon

and we need to get there pre exos and scal

to get auric

then come back

to kill exos and scal

then go back to murder yharim

[fathom girder]

yeah but what if the world explodes and none of that happens

[rich ginkgo]

gg

[earnest jewel]

Unlikely, since I get the impression the Aerie will be a glorified boss arena because it's cooler that way and something being cool is always the best justification.

Like, by the time you get there you're already at the top, what's left to conquer? Other then, you know, Yharim.

[rich ginkgo]

it is NOT cooler that way imo

whole ass subworld just to be yharims grave

[earnest jewel]

What function could it have then?

[valid crypt]

The distortion already serves for post ml exploration

[rich ginkgo]

you can play poker there with the critters that inhabit the aerie

[earnest jewel]

What critters?

The dragons are all dead.

[valid crypt]

Do any animals live there??

[earnest jewel]

Yharim.

[rich ginkgo]

idk lets just say there’s like, little bugs wandering around

the auric ants obviously

[valid crypt]

What food they eating

[rich ginkgo]

rocks

[earnest jewel]

Yharim.

[rich ginkgo]

that too

[valid crypt]

Damn these ants stronger then prime moonlord

[tropic jolt]

are they related to the super saiy-ants

[rich ginkgo]

we know that yharim loves insects considering he got mad at draedon for pbg and the plague bees

so i think he’d be fine offering a body part or two to the auric ants every now and then

[earnest jewel]

Yeah but they're not bees.

[valid crypt]

Yharim only likes bees

[rich ginkgo]

then they can be auric bees instead of auric ants

[pulsar cobalt]

ALL YHARIM LIKES IS BEES

BEESBEESBEES

THATS HIS WHOLE PERSONALITY

[earnest jewel]

I don't think bees can play poker.

[tropic jolt]

I will genocide the bees

[rich ginkgo]

they can always learn

[pulsar cobalt]

JUST LIKE HOW CALS WHOLE PERSONALITY IS BEING A DICK TO EVERYONE AROUND HER

[valid crypt]

Tsuki i dont think these people were being fully genuine since poker with ants was talked about earlier

[earnest jewel]

They should add casinos to Calamity so the age rating goes up so we don't have any more children in this server.

[pulsar cobalt]

shut it pea channel

[pulsar cobalt]

dont think thats how it works

[valid crypt]

Fuck you

[earnest jewel]

If it includes gambling the age rating shoots straight to 18+. Thus, this server becomes one for discussing an 18s rated game. Thus, no kids allowed.

[tropic jolt]

there's a whole franchise disproving this its called five nights at freddy's

[earnest jewel]

Freddy doesn't gamble, thus kid friendly.

[rich ginkgo]

bought my first fnaf game at like 9

maybe 8

[pulsar cobalt]

murder and casinos is different

[dense sundial]

terraria should be 18+ because doing anything with anything in this game is quite a lot of gambling

[earnest jewel]

True!

[rich ginkgo]

the goblin tinkerer in question

[tropic jolt]

players optimized the gambling out of the game already

[earnest jewel]

They should add to the lore that Calamitas is broke because the first thing she did after leaving Yharim was gamble.

[tropic jolt]

she lives in a cave so

[rich ginkgo]

lol what a bum

[tropic jolt]

casino cave?

[dense sundial]

fabsol crafting recipe'd the gambling out of the game*

[valid crypt]

Calamitas is already homeless

[earnest jewel]

Do you live where you gamble?

[tropic jolt]

yeah

I gamble online

[earnest jewel]

What is this, Vegas?

[rich ginkgo]

3-5 crates for anything you want in this game

[earnest jewel]

I don't think caves get good reception.

[rich ginkgo]

sounds fair to me idk

[tropic jolt]

errrr fabsol its technically a player I guess

he played the game one time maybe

[rich ginkgo]

31 times*

[dense sundial]

why 31

[earnest jewel]

Well, I understand the characters;
Yharim is a bee lover who is misunderstood.
Calamitas is an evil jerk and a girlfailure.
Draedon is a gamer.

[dense sundial]

how is one both an evil jerk and a girlfailure

[earnest jewel]

Because they fail at being evil when we fight her when she attacks us for no reason at all.

[rich ginkgo]

she attacks us because she sees us as yharim

idk why she thought she’d win that but ya

[earnest jewel]

Shhh. No because she's an evil bad guy.

[tropic jolt]

not true! my reign will be much worse

[valid crypt]

💔

[rich ginkgo]

truth nuke

[earnest jewel]

Erm, sweaty, I'm right.

[valid crypt]

Good luck doing that in the confines of like 2km of land

[rich ginkgo]

sorry scal im actually WORSE than yharim

nice try though

[tropic jolt]

I will use mods to turn the game into minecraft

[valid crypt]

Thats how you break every single world gen thing ever

[halcyon seal]

calamitas attacks us because we stepped on a cool grubby outside and shes really mad at us for that

[tropic jolt]

grubby needed to eliminated

[cunning sequoia]

worse than the reign of yharim™?

[tropic jolt]

roll credits

[dense sundial]

okay, recalling her chat messages, i gotta hand that to you

[earnest jewel]

Yharim of course did nothing wrong, he's a fallen hero who only wanted to kill the evil gods.

[rich ginkgo]

if we dont “beat” yharim with the power of friendship and make him join us im gonna lose it

we’re both here for the same reason yharim, lets nuke terraria.

[cunning sequoia]

no he's dying

yhar is getting executed

[cunning sequoia]

also i feel like he'd just call you a madman for this

[earnest jewel]

Let's violate the Geneva Conventions, together.

[tropic jolt]

theres nothing we can do to change the outcome... it has to be this way! 😂

senator yharim

[hazy pine]

yeah there's zero way to reach a middle ground with yharim right

beyond just killing him like

[earnest jewel]

Nope, it's kill or be killed.

[hazy pine]

you cant continue his crusades without just becoming him

[rich ginkgo]

if you heal pbg maybe

❤️‍🩹

[valid crypt]

Either way you become yharim 2 or not he dying

[earnest jewel]

I view Yharim's goal as half-find a successor half-suicide.

[cunning sequoia]

heal what

pbg is beyond saving

[rich ginkgo]

the plague probably

[hazy pine]

peanutbuttergamer where are you??? how can i help???

[cunning sequoia]

the best you can do is put it out of its misery

which yharim didnt even fucking do

just released it into the wild

[rich ginkgo]

not with my miracle matter!!

[earnest jewel]

Where is the misery in being a nuclear bee?

[hazy pine]

to be a nuclear bee being free

[earnest jewel]

#Draedondidnothingwrong

[cunning sequoia]

the lack of free will and painful cyborgification

[valid crypt]

The plague has like
Liquidated probably its entire fucking body and replaced it atp
Bee of theseus

[earnest jewel]

Bee of Beeseus.

[rich ginkgo]

i dont know what fucking information draedon needed to get out of plague-ifying a giant bee and turning it into a nuclear monstrosity

what was the goal here

[valid crypt]

To see how to control organic life

[tropic jolt]

he needed an obeedient worker

[valid crypt]

The mechs resisted control

[earnest jewel]

He likes others not having free will.

[valid crypt]

Draedon found out how to correct that via the plague

[hazy pine]

somewhere out there is a superstructure draedon iterator

[earnest jewel]

Draedon invented competitive slavery.

[rich ginkgo]

oh lord 😭

[earnest jewel]

The gods practiced casual slavery.

[valid crypt]

Probably many of them atp

[valid crypt]

Draedon automated it

[hazy pine]

0.33s until subjugation new WR

[earnest jewel]

You worked for the guy for like sixty something years and you never knew he was pro-slavery? Is Yharim stupid?

[cunning sequoia]

yes

[ocean jetty]

yharim is dokuro

[rich ginkgo]

draedon update where we get to see this guys main base and it’s just a giant factory full of mind controlled bees

[valid crypt]

Draedon is pro science
Science in that moment was just pro slavery

[hazy pine]

that one silent hill or resident evil scene of the dog piloting everything

[rich ginkgo]

if his ai machines resisted control and he fixed that with controlling organic life would that mean he’s a slave owner or would that mean he has organic machines working in his factory

aka cyborgs

[hazy pine]

cant wait for draedon silent construct and draedon rot

[valid crypt]

The mech bosses with souls were the ones rebelling control

[earnest jewel]

That's how DoG views himself.

[hazy pine]

oh yeah is dog getting a rewrite or

[rich ginkgo]

they have souls in them???

[hazy pine]

is he still an edgelord

[earnest jewel]

Duh?

[rich ginkgo]

i thought at most they were ai’s

[valid crypt]

They drop souls??

Souls of sight might fright

[rich ginkgo]

what

[hazy pine]

evil ass soul chamber

[earnest jewel]

DoG is perfect as he is. He needs to be edgier even.

[rich ginkgo]

wait i thought we’re talking about the exo me hs

mechs

😭

[valid crypt]

The exos were started years after plague happened

[cunning sequoia]

pretty sure thats staying

[hazy pine]

ok

[cunning sequoia]

the narrative just doesnt treat him like a joke though

[hazy pine]

good i can write him taunting the party over neg diffing their friend

[cunning sequoia]

he's still an arrogant asshole but he can back it up

[earnest jewel]

He's cringe but he can back it up.

Same with Calamitas at 14. Cringe as hell but who's gonna stop them?

[rich ginkgo]

so essentially DoG is a jacked 6’4 redditor

[hazy pine]

yharim

lol

[valid crypt]

^
Arrogant bitch who can back up almost all their claims

[valid crypt]

Fucking
Lmao???

[earnest jewel]

Devourer of Gods is his arrogant self proclaimed title. But he can actually do that.

[valid crypt]

Yharim was likely weaker then scal back then

[earnest jewel]

So people call him that.

[cunning sequoia]

he could actually stop her tho

[valid crypt]

True he could

[earnest jewel]

It's called psychological manipulation.

But a certain someone decided to method act this...

[rich ginkgo]

wasnt she like 15 years old

all powerful being who’s too stupid to realize that

[earnest jewel]

Probably 13 when she joined.

[rich ginkgo]

ill do whatever you say mr yharim!

[earnest jewel]

And like, 16 I think when she left.

Otherwise timeline begins to get all sorts of weird.

[pseudo vector]

he's still an arrogant prick

[earnest jewel]

LET'S GO!

[pseudo vector]

the new text we've given him when he munches you with his head is incredibly comedic

[cunning sequoia]

tastes like chicken

[earnest jewel]

'Needs more salt!'

[pseudo vector]

whether i can talk about specific lines is something i do not know but i think some of them are very funny

[wraith crow]

completed another playthrough amongst countless others of Calamity, now that I somewhar understand the lore,,,In all simplicity, Is the MC basically just cleaning up the mess that Yharim made?

[earnest jewel]

Yeah but this is the wrong place to discuss that.

[wraith crow]

mb

[cunning sequoia]

the nefarious #lore-discussion

[wraith crow]

the impending ban

that im facing

for misusing channels

[pseudo vector]

you're good lmao

[earnest jewel]

Death.

[cunning sequoia]

no i will kill u irl for talking in the wrong channel

[rich ginkgo]

this happens all the time dont worry lol

[cunning sequoia]

😊

[wraith crow]

As in Death Mode?

[pseudo vector]

i love the new dog dialogue

[earnest jewel]

How many cases of someone asking about Infernum in mod-talk today?

[pseudo vector]

i'd have to see if the others want to talk about them cuz i don't want to mistakenly leak smth

[earnest jewel]

Don't worry, I got the leeks right here.

[rich ginkgo]

it is quite funny

[wraith crow]

Wait

Will Calamity

Show Summoners love?

And add whips into the base mod?

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhhh

[earnest jewel]

It already does.

Some would say too much so.

[wraith crow]

since when?

[pseudo vector]

i think yes?

[earnest jewel]

But whips are coming I believe.

[pseudo vector]

there's an assortment he'll choose from, some depending on when you get hit in the fight

[earnest jewel]

Will he get his hit by tail dialogue back?

[pseudo vector]

uhhhh

[wraith crow]

how I feel when I disable combat dialogue because of performance

[pseudo vector]

i don't think so?

[wraith crow]

so I miss out on the new it

[earnest jewel]

Aw, that dialogue was funny.

[rich ginkgo]

no

[wraith crow]

how many decades until Yharim release update?

[earnest jewel]

Probably one.

[tropic jolt]

30 fargo years

[pseudo vector]

i do not know

[rich ginkgo]

pre-fabsol departure? 20

post-fabsol departure, maybe like 7 years

[wraith crow]

i'll take a sh*wer by then, free me bro

[pseudo vector]

we have a lot of clean up work to do before we tackle any new content

[hazy pine]

silksong releasing, deltarune 3 & 4 are out, you know what this means...

[earnest jewel]

SSO tomorrow?

[rich ginkgo]

doesnt this include respriting/reworking like over half the bosses rn

[valid crypt]

Gta 6 before sso

[hazy pine]

Yes.

[desert path]

1 more gta 6 dev cycle before sso

[pseudo vector]

there will be a lot of boss reworks yes

[wraith crow]

a critter update

[earnest jewel]

No Wario update though.

[pseudo vector]

a handful are in the coming sso update but the rest will be handled later

[earnest jewel]

I wonder if they'll add music...

Maybe from a CD?

[lyric trellis]

The defabbing, 10 year process

[wraith crow]

for the past like 2 days ive been tormented by a critter that I was desperately searching for in the calamity wiki, just to find out its from an addon mod

I have a base that reaches the space

[pseudo vector]

i can't wait for all the exos not coming out before silksong jokes

gonna be so much fun

[wraith crow]

And all over my base, God Slayer Slugs keep spawning

[rich ginkgo]

literally left the mod forcing the team to restart from the ground up with all these ai changes needed

💔

[lyric trellis]

Well that’s one way to put it

Makes it sound like that’s a bad thing which is funny

[rich ginkgo]

no it’s an amazing thing

take a look at skeletron prime rn

[earnest jewel]

Create mod.
Recruit a bunch of people to help with mod.
Make the most godawful decisions possible.
Leave.

[lyric trellis]

Very aware of Skeletron prime

[rich ginkgo]

everyone is

[wraith crow]

im surprised nobody is censoring f*b's name

[rich ginkgo]

fuck BoC too

[pseudo vector]

part of me is surprised we didn't put the prime tweaks in what a calamity

i talked about it with triangle and dia earlier today lmao

[dull heart]

they weren't done

[pseudo vector]

that is true

[hushed hazel]

He isn’t Voldemort

[mystic eagle]

You mean Malice?

[dull heart]

And What A Calamity was expressly just meant to remove fabsol references and some bug fixes

[earnest jewel]

The anti-fab update.

[dull heart]

Superradiant was a present for cal day

[rich ginkgo]

fabsol boss ai’s should be fabsol references

[wraith crow]

the update of them all

[mystic eagle]

I know

[rich ginkgo]

you can literally tell when a boss ai was made by fab dude

[mystic eagle]

Just keep current Masdeath Sprime for Legendary Death/Malice

[dull heart]

to be fair literally all except brothers on scal was fabsol

[lyric trellis]

Well that’s 99% of the mod so it’s not hard to guess yeah

[pseudo vector]

those will be getting addressed as time goes on

[dull heart]

Legendary doesn't get it's own AI changes

[rich ginkgo]

whoopsies

[dull heart]

The AI changes are just

Expert
Rev
Death
FTW
GFB (sometimes)

[lyric trellis]

1% being scal brothers and the parts of Hive Mind that aren’t bad

[rich ginkgo]

i guess he had some okay ones then

[pseudo vector]

where's that one difficulty diagram

[dull heart]

providence being made by Fabsol is so crazy

[pseudo vector]

provi is such a non-fabsol fabsol boss

[tropic jolt]

a handful 👀

[mystic eagle]

Guards is even crazier

[pseudo vector]

same with guardians i think

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[wraith crow]

crazy and all, but is there a reason why Calamity doesnt have achievements yet? Or is it like impossible to mod in new achievements in mods except infernum

[pseudo vector]

the profaned bosses being fabsol bosses bewilders me

[lyric trellis]

This one?

[rich ginkgo]

id say polterghast is pretty good imo too even if it is just plantera on roids

it’s a fun fight

[dull heart]

this needs to be changed but

[mystic eagle]

Guards are actually very well-crafted and have good, fun and semi-predictable patterns!?

[vivid hemlock]

infernum had to brute force its way into adding achievements

[pulsar cobalt]

achievement support wasnt a native tmod thing until like

just now

[cobalt wharf]

except p1

[vivid hemlock]

tmod hasnt made achievement support until recently

[pulsar cobalt]

[wraith crow]

oh

[rich ginkgo]

yeah this

[hushed hazel]

Support wasn’t added for modded achievements until like

A week ago

[pseudo vector]

achievements are being officially added into tmod the upcoming patch i'm pretty sure

[wraith crow]

thats crazy