calamity-update-talk

[prisma cipher]

No cuz NO EASY GOLDEN ROD

[rich ginkgo]

id rather be a non-fisher than a fisher

[distant raft]

synchronise your trout watches

[dull heart]

Counterpoint

[rich ginkgo]

why fish when i can just buy all the potions with my 20 qol mods?

it’s just qol dude!!

[prisma cipher]

I don’t fish for the potions

Usually

[prisma cipher]

Imagine this

[rich ginkgo]

what do you fish for

[prisma cipher]

But golden rod

[distant raft]

trust me these 40 accessories are just qol trust me bro its just a little qol trust me

[dull heart]

Can't wait to assassinate blood orbs

[dull heart]

You can do that

[prisma cipher]

Abyssal amulet, crates, frog legs

[rich ginkgo]

that’s what im sayin

[prisma cipher]

Yes but easier to get golden rod,,,

[dull heart]

Equip as an accessory to use this minigame on other rods

[pulsar cobalt]

undyne

[dull heart]

No

[distant raft]

ursa sergeant 🤤

[dull heart]

Yes

[rich ginkgo]

imbecile.

[prisma cipher]

True

[prisma cipher]

Dude

[distant raft]

oh yeah is ursa getting killed in sso1

[pulsar cobalt]

did u use the exo polyphemalus stuff for this?

[stone fiber]

I love me some fishing

[dull heart]

No

[prisma cipher]

I like fishing for biome specific weapons 2

[dull heart]

Reworked

[pulsar cobalt]

damn

[distant raft]

damn

[rich ginkgo]

why would you need abyssal amulet when you can just use your qol mods to /insta kill the bosses that are too hard? idk i dont get it

[prisma cipher]

Can you like have the same stats but have a gimmick so it’s more broken?

[prisma cipher]

Cuz I like abyssal amulet a lot

[dull heart]

actually have a good spoiler

I am moving the bobbers via movement keys
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1394373618586357995/wipRiftReeler.mp4?ex=68769320&is=687541a0&hm=ad51b02a2f206ea91d98ee24172d702852af73f954b6e86d4a89d3bf0647be29&

[prisma cipher]

That’s peak actually

[distant raft]

how will this work with tiny water pools

[pulsar cobalt]

so this is just autofishing

[dull heart]

it doesn't put them outside of water

[dull heart]

No, I'm controlling the bobbers

[stone fiber]

Oh hey there it is
The spoiler™

[dull heart]

that's not super obvious in video but

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[dull heart]

My movement keys move bobbers

[prisma cipher]

TUPID

[pulsar cobalt]

yea it really isnt obvious

[prisma cipher]

It was

They literally mentioned it before

[lapis oak]

u tupid

[distant raft]

i thought it was based on the course change from a bomb fish to a hydrothermic crate

[pulsar cobalt]

ur tupid

[wooden blade]

yeah basically, and it's awesome

[prisma cipher]

You’re TUPID(er) tho

[pulsar cobalt]

🎱

[prisma cipher]

I will shake YOU like an 8ball short.

[pulsar cobalt]

nop

[prisma cipher]

We’re talking objective stuff here

Let’s get you back to bed GRANDMA

[rich ginkgo]

id fish if the loot was actually decent

😒

[dull heart]

It is

[prisma cipher]

It’s really good

Actually

Best way to get stuff

Except bosses sometimes

[lapis oak]

fishing has so many good loots?

[dull heart]

Frog Leg

[rich ginkgo]

it’s not because u cant fish up uhh ummm

[coral shuttle]

i think if this was a standalone mod that affected all fishing rods youd have a bajillion downloads

[lapis oak]

what are you smoking

[pulsar cobalt]

objectively ur a stupid dumb dumb

[dull heart]

perhaps

[rich ginkgo]

a pepsi

[coral shuttle]

more standalone mods... people yearn for customizable modlists

but yeah thats actually really cool

[prisma cipher]

Objectively you’re WRONG YOU TUPID

[pulsar cobalt]

nop

[dull heart]

I might make a standalone version eventually

But low priority

[rich ginkgo]

nooooo everything needs to be in cal noooo 😥😥

[lapis oak]

wow it's not Tuki in capslock today but someone else

crazy

[dull heart]

Probably would after calamity 2.1 drops

[prisma cipher]

“NUH UH ONLY TSUKI USES IT!!!!”

[dull heart]

anyway the yoyo in question is not riptide either

[pulsar cobalt]

whar

[pulsar cobalt]

i literally dont see how any of these yoyos are relevant to the sso update,,,

these are the candidates btw,,

[hard copper]

dog worm on a string yoyo?

[lapis oak]

tupid

[rich ginkgo]

they arent relevant to sso and that makes them relevant to sso

specifically becsuse they dont relate to it

right guys

[lapis oak]

where the Obliterator

[pulsar cobalt]

forgot about it

[lapis oak]

tupid

it's the one

DoG got updated

[pulsar cobalt]

its sandwiched between 2 alr reworked ones, and oracle and ozzathoth

[vivid hemlock]

thats whats going to happen to you in 3 seconds

[pulsar cobalt]

but yes obliterator is also a candidate

so it could be that one

[lapis oak]

Doze already talking about changing Deathhail Staff

[lapis oak]

ඞ!??

[winter kiln]

are they planning on reworking all the elemental weapons? cause this looks completely out of place

[lapis oak]

yes

[dull heart]

2.1 will resprite and rename all of them

except ark and superradiant

[lapis oak]

even the 2 accs?

[fringe quiver]

eah all of the elemental weapons have oldpilled 2018maxxed sprites or something

2018 is probably too old

[dull heart]

This is ture

[fringe quiver]

more like 2020 or something

[dull heart]

idk about those

The weapons tho

[shell sapphire]

Wait is 2.1 sso????

[lapis oak]

Reb said Gauntlet is too iconic to change and Quiver name changed is already coming

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[dull heart]

2.1 is the next major update

yes

[lapis oak]

Quiver's sprite probably will stay the same in SSO

[shell sapphire]

Ahh ok ok

Nice

[dull heart]

anyway yes Obliterator is the yoyo

[lapis oak]

unless the Tringle and Dia's acc resprites list has Quiver on it

[distant raft]

damn

i was thinking quagmire

[dull heart]

Obliterator is cool now

[lapis oak]

Obliterator vs Deathhail Staff

which is cooler

[dull heart]

Idk

[lapis oak]

guh

[dull heart]

Deathhail has more aura

Obliterator is more cutesy

[wicked pewter]

aww

[dull heart]

Deathwind has even more aura than deathhail though

[wicked pewter]

shoots you with a gun in a cute and hwhimsical manner

[dull heart]

and Eradicator is similar (with stealth especially)

[dull heart]

Obliterator is a yoyo

[lapis oak]

wow wow wow wow

you're updating all DoG weapons?

[hard copper]

yoyo with a gun

[lapis oak]

holy

[dull heart]

excelsus hasn't been touched yet but

it might be the coolest idea

[lapis oak]

give it spices

[dull heart]

all the dog weapons are being updated to actually reflect the new fight now

[lapis oak]

Doze doing god's work right now 😋

hype

[hard copper]

god?

[dull heart]

I am terrified of touching Mechworm

I might just touch up visuals on it

[wicked pewter]

oh

damn im stupid,

[halcyon seal]

Was Excelsus the big ass sword

[ocean jetty]

evil ass dog changes

from what i hear

[flat folio]

My nightmare demon of a weapon

[wicked pewter]

wait thats actually really funny , a cutesy yoyo called obliterator thats good actually

[winter kiln]

i wonder what the new DoG fight will be like but the update's probably still a while away

the absolute size of the sprite scares me

largest terraria boss ever

[hard copper]

becuase touching mechworm might cause it to do a calmillion damage?

[winter kiln]

yeah

[winter kiln]

like just changing its appearance to match the new devourer of gods instead of mechanically reworking it?

[late eagle]

Changing his effects

Vfx basically

[dull heart]

I actually

I have reworked Mechworm before

before I was a dev I fixed the segments desync

[late eagle]

I don't think any dog weapon will be resprited yet because this won't be his final rework

[dull heart]

For Mechworm it would be specifically making the segments not suck

So they stick together properly

And then making the lasers match DoG's new visuals

Calamity now has code for worm segments that works more consistently than the way Mechworm was done with update order changing back in the day, it just would be updating Mechworm to use it

[flat folio]

Easiest method would prolly be a matter of just making it so that newer segments must have an index greater than all previous segments
Since the reason the desync occurs is because of the fact that the segments are not contiguous in the projectile cache and thus not guaranteed to update in sequential order

Having it not be multiple projectiles would be cool too but with that approach you have to make sure the projectile doesn't send a packet storm

[dull heart]

Yeah

the way I did it for Tenryu is simply make it so that it's multiple projectiles but they don't run their own update logic

That's all done by the head

[lapis oak]

you made Tenryu?

[dull heart]

sort od

I made the original worm code YuH adapted into Tenryu

[lapis oak]

ah

I see

[pulsar cobalt]

kinda

[dull heart]

Storm Weaver mod's minion

[pulsar cobalt]

they made the code for it for another mod

and then got asked if it could be used in cal

[dull heart]

well actually YuH asked me first about making a worm minion

[winter kiln]

how will hive mind and perforator items be crafted now?

[dull heart]

they won't

They drop from the boss after all

[winter kiln]

oh

[dull heart]

The spawn items specifically will be changed to Aerialite

[calm ingot]

You can shimmer them in the next update

Wait why are you still unable to craft the spawn item befor fighting the boss

I thought that was half the point

[dull heart]

no

That would kill the whole reason they have a unique spawn mechanic

[winter kiln]

i mean

i feel like hive mind and perforator cysts spawn pretty commonly

idk why you'd need to craft the summon item before fighting them

[calm ingot]

Unique spawn mechanic that involves just waiting around and hoping you get lucky
Queen bee, king slime and others also have a unique spawn mechanic and summon items available before fighting them

[calm ingot]

If you’re nohitting or doing some other challenge and you’re sick of waiting for them to spawn

[desert garnet]

challenges arent being considered

also

if you are nohitting

[lapis oak]

🫠

[desert garnet]

you can just cheat in

[dull heart]

King Slime, EoC, Mechs etc all have their unique spawn methods be super hard to do

Queen Bee's isn't repeatable

[winter kiln]

ok but king slime spawning at the outer thirds of the world is like 100x more uncommon than cysts spawning

[winter kiln]

the humble battle potion:

[calm ingot]

Yes I love dealing with 15 eaters and devourers on 1 hp

[desert garnet]

cysts aint hard to find

[desert garnet]

?

[lapis oak]

they're still talking about challenge runs

[calm ingot]

Battle potion boosts spawn rates in case you weren’t aware

[desert garnet]

no shit

[lapis oak]

1hp something something

[desert garnet]

challenge runs

are challenge

they arent considered

[floral jungle]

literally anything is hard on one hp

[calm ingot]

Maybe so
I guess I just don’t think the unique spawn mechanic is interesting or consistent enough to warrant forcing you to do it that way but that’s just my opinion

[dull heart]

it's more interesting than crafting the 40th boss sunmon item

[desert garnet]

spawning with an item isnt interesting either

[calm ingot]

But at least it’s consistent and takes zero time

[desert garnet]

like you dont even think

[dull heart]

sure but the game isn't about taking zero time

[desert garnet]

you are playing terraria

[dull heart]

Less time does not make something more interesting

[desert garnet]

you are supposed to take time on things

[calm ingot]

The time spent is just waiting for the tumor to show up

[desert garnet]

tumors arent even rare

get life form analizer

[dull heart]

I don't think I've ever had to wait even a full minute for one to spawn

[desert garnet]

i always get one when walking through the evil biome

[dull heart]

like 30 seconds

[desert garnet]

also you are literally doing 1hp challenge run

which is time consuming af

[calm ingot]

Even if they take 30 seconds if you take 10 attempts on them that’s 5 minutes spent waiting around doing nothing

Leviathan is kinda the same deal but at least more interesting because of the music and ambience plus the giant ass sea monster showing up

[desert garnet]

are you really gonna count every second? its not that rare to make you feel that you lost a min of your life

and also 5 mins its not that long

you keep forgetting you are playing terraria where you have to sometime wait

and most people wont be affected as much cuz they dont do crazy challenges

which could take 50+ attempts

[dull heart]

Leviathan is like way worse

it's so rare

[desert garnet]

ye

[dull heart]

Levi is kinda an actual problem

[desert garnet]

even with zerg pot

you need to wait

[distant raft]

stealing leviathan detector from inf 🙏

[desert garnet]

make a bait

like from blood moon

[calm ingot]

Fishing is maybe the most hated part of the game by the community for the same reason, aside from maybe the pillars. It’s hated for the same reason I don’t like the spawn mechanic, it’s just waiting around and hoping you get lucky
Fishing is getting reworked in sso even though it probably won’t take most people more than 5-10 minutes to get whatever they want
Why can’t the spawn mechanic

[dull heart]

I think we just need to mega boost ??? spawns post plant pre levi

[desert garnet]

which you throw into water

[floral jungle]

what about anahita

[desert garnet]

fishing will get reworked so it will be more interesting

[floral jungle]

imagine it just skips the first phase in rev

[distant raft]

briny perfume that massively increases ??? spawnrates

[calm ingot]

Does it not do that in death anymore?

It used to

[calm ingot]

That’s what I’m saying

[desert garnet]

and i doubt fishing will change that much to not take longer but it will be more interesting

[halcyon seal]

tbh make ??? spawnrates mega boosted at start of hardmode instead of post plant

[calm ingot]

That’s exactly what I’m saying

[hallow thunder]

A spawn rate increasing item is probably better since enemies would get really annoying esp during bosses

[desert garnet]

different spawn mechanic are more interesting than another spawn item

[calm ingot]

I don’t mind waiting as long as there’s a purpose or something interesting happening

With cyst and tumor there’s just kinda not

[hallow thunder]

At least add an item to make it like before the spawn rates increase

[desert garnet]

you literally have problem with the thing that spawn super often even without the spawn booster

[hallow thunder]

You have to go out of your way to not take advantage of the increase in spawns

[desert garnet]

ye

and cuz you are playing 1 hp

that doesnt matter

[calm ingot]

Even if you’re playing normally and pop a Zerg you now have 30 eaters on your screen as the boss spawns

[desert garnet]

zerg is post slime god

[calm ingot]

Battle potion

Whatever

[desert garnet]

battle pot

[desert garnet]

it matter

zerg pot is much stronger

[pearl sentinel]

the levi talk reminds me of when you'd get an I.O.U for its items that could only be made with hm materials if you beat it pre hm

[calm ingot]

What I’m saying is I hope they keep the unique spawn mechanic but make it more interesting than just an enemy that spawns on the ground
Maybe when they move it to where folly is
Idk

[distant raft]

living shards, which are post plant, yet dropped the normal items post wof

[pearl sentinel]

oh wild

didnt even know that

[desert garnet]

i see that you are just coping that you cant really do anything cuz you are locked with 1hp

i would say that its just a game

[calm ingot]

I’m not even playing 1hp it was just a hypothetical lmao

[distant raft]

i wonder if community's being touched

[stone zephyr]

i heard no

[distant raft]

amazing

so its stuck in "i mean its like okay but outclassed by basically everything" hell for another update

[stone zephyr]

we shall see

its more of like a safe choice if you don’t know what to do

it’s not the worst

i just kind wish it got a different obtaining method

[distant raft]

10% drop from a boss that sucks major ass to farm 🤤

[stone zephyr]

exsctly 💥

[hard copper]

community shrine when?

so you can get it pre boss

[calm ingot]

Best preboss accessory tbh

[halcyon seal]

+2 def +1 hp/s regen +2% damage

Wait... His Buffs Are This FIRE???

[calm ingot]

Wouldn’t it just do nothing preboss

[halcyon seal]

it actually does have stats pre-boss

[calm ingot]

Huh, I had no idea

[halcyon seal]

yeah the issue is the stats are like

nothing

[calm ingot]

It’s like half a well fed

Not even that

[halcyon seal]

shits like crown jewel but bad

[hard copper]

Its actually 1 regen, so 0.5hp/s, and thats only while you have a dot. Very bad

Byeah thats more of a balance issue rather than game design.

[dull heart]

hmm

nevermind

[earnest jewel]

Changelogs redacted.

[fathom girder]

[dusk bronze]

[dusty tinsel]

What

[dull heart]

i almost spoiled something

[earnest jewel]

Like some kind of log... of a change.

Wait, this is the spoiler channel. This is where you're meant to spoil us! I demand spoilt goods!

[fathom girder]

isn't that the point...

c'mon, rogue dev

do your rogue dev thing

[earnest jewel]

Where's the melee dev?

[fathom girder]

huh

that's a bit of a shared role

[earnest jewel]

Mage dev?

[fathom girder]

bro

[silk terrace]

spoilers... gone?

no...

[dull heart]

you already got spoiled

today

[earnest jewel]

Erm, it's 15th of August, I see no spoilers from today.

[fathom girder]

Doze please

We're so hungry

[dull heart]

I sent fishing

[dull heart]

Good thing I taught you to fish

[terse dew]

the spoiler was so tasty I cooked it and ate it

so it's gone now

😀

[hasty tangle]

at least for a few hours

[fathom girder]

MERK

Damn it man

[fathom girder]

You did indeed

Off to make my OWN spoilers then

[dusk bronze]

with blackjack and hookers?

[fathom girder]

You know how I roll

[lyric trellis]

Fishing

[silk terrace]

I only say morning

Because if it were a good morning...

[fallen olive]

uh here have a funny goof which i think might techically be kind of a spoiler

[brave star]

Amidias

[vivid hemlock]

dialogue ui 🙏

[fallen olive]

💬

[glacial steeple]

pre-hardmode yharon is possible right?
(cultist > moon lord > ravager > dragonfolly > yharon)
am i missing anything that would make it not doable?

[dusk bronze]

#challenge-runs

[glacial steeple]

mb

[dusk bronze]

also you need calclone for cultist

[glacial steeple]

do you?

[dusk bronze]

yeah

they only spawn after calclone or wof

[fast vessel]

So you have to move the bobbers to fish now? Am I missing something, or is this gonna make fishing even more annoying?

[glacial steeple]

so I guess therefore pre-hm yharon isnt a thing?
as to get cal clone you'd need ravager and a hardmode anvil, which you cant get the anvil without moon lord and to get moon lord you need cultist which means either wof or clone
ouch
(even if ravager isnt the only way to get essence of havoc, which i think?? it is. you'd still need the anvil)

[dusk bronze]

you can do pre hardmode destroyer for anvil

!wiki skipping wall of flesh

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Skipping_Wall_of_Flesh
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page skipping wall of flesh for a direct link or !wiki search skipping wall of flesh for a list of all hits.

[glacial steeple]

alright ive only now just learnt about the roxcalibur thing, it is absolutely possible

[dull heart]

this is exclusive to this pole

and no it doesn't just make fishing more annoying, it makes it actually interactive

[desert path]

Why does everyone hate fishing it's my favorite terraria mechanic

I spend hours making pretty fishing holes and fishing in them

[lapis oak]

because it's boring

[desert path]

No : (

[dull heart]

this will let you do it but interactive

[desert path]

it's relaxing to me

[lapis oak]

standing still click click left mouse button

[vivid hemlock]

truth nuke

[silk terrace]

its true... 😔

I have not done a single fishing quest since I grinded for Supreme Helper Minion using journey mode time skips and never fished unless I have to get a specific weapon from it

[desert path]

this is why you don't enjoy fishing

you grinded for supreme helper minion

I got it naturally from playing too much of the game

[earnest jewel]

Did you ever catch Froggy?

[desert path]

No because that fishing is ACTUALLY bad

[earnest jewel]

Wow, someone never unlocked Metal Sonic.

[desert path]

I didnt even finish the game 😭

[earnest jewel]

No suprise, someone couldn't handle Big's Big Adventure.

[brave star]

When does someone get froggy

[earnest jewel]

When you catch him.

[arctic cliff]

crackpot idea:
make the mechworm instead a whip-like weapon where you unleash cosmic guardians in the style of that one messmer attack where he summons multiple snake heads to attack you

[earnest jewel]

Cosmic Guardian is kill.

[arctic cliff]

i do not care.

[dull heart]

No

Mechworm is not becoming not a worm

non negotiable

[earnest jewel]

Bigger worm?

[arctic cliff]

then make it a rework for cosmic discharge

[dull heart]

I'm not touching discharge currently

[earnest jewel]

Whirmp. Worm Whip.

[cobalt wharf]

stardust dragon staff but again or solar eruption but again

you have 2 wolves

[dull heart]

Mechworm is far more interesting than dragon

[lyric trellis]

Meteor staff again >

[dull heart]

literally the only similarity is worm

[earnest jewel]

But dragons are awesome!

[dull heart]

nothing else about the two is similar

Mechworm segments don't scale damage with slots, for example

[earnest jewel]

Therefore, Mechworm isn't awesome. Dragon lovers stay winning.

[dull heart]

Mechworm segments all use local instead of shared static for dragon

this means more segments hits more often

Mechworm also has an attack pattern

which automatically makes it more interesting than almost every other minion

I can't think of any others with attack patterns besides Virid Vanguard

[lyric trellis]

Mutated Truffle, Plantation Staff

[dull heart]

I haven't used either since their rework so

That tracks

anyway Mechworm is the only dog drop that doesn't really need a rework

It's also the only one I haven't basically finished

[earnest jewel]

So that's one space worm that doesn't need a rework...

[dull heart]

I cranked out Obliterator, Excelsus, and Eradicator today

[earnest jewel]

It's not even 4am! How do you do it!

[dull heart]

The only worm in calamity that doesn't need a rework is a minion, peak

[earnest jewel]

One worm down... uh... worms to go.

[dull heart]

I will give Mechworm a visual touch up

[earnest jewel]

Terraria Modders not add more worms challenge:

[dull heart]

That's about it

[earnest jewel]

Nevermind, we're back to worm one.

[hardy gulch]

yeah mechworm is probably good enough as it is

[lyric trellis]

Does Excelsus get a new swing?

[earnest jewel]

It's a worm now.

[dull heart]

Excelsus is entirely a new person

Functionally

Sprite and name unchanged

[lapis oak]

wtf you were just talking about idea for Excelsus earlier

that was fast

[dull heart]

I did it all today

All of Obliterator and Excelsus

[lapis oak]

locked in

[dull heart]

Half of Eradicator

(I had already done the other half (

Now I just need to do touch ups to them all

The cool thing is that now all of the weapons reference his moveset

[silk terrace]

is this spoiler?

[dull heart]

yeah

[silk terrace]

yay!!!!!

[iron dew]

is this a spoiler?

[silk terrace]

wait what every single Godslayer weapon is already reworked?

all of them reference new DoG one way or the other?

[dull heart]

all of the main DoG drops

Mechworm isn't being reworked bc it's already great

[silk terrace]

damn ok

[dull heart]

Also

[silk terrace]

I assume every other boss will get this weapon rework treatment unless the weapon already references a boss moves

[dull heart]

"new" dog meaning the 2.1 fight

not the giant DoG

[dull heart]

Not necessarily

[silk terrace]

oh

[dull heart]

DoG made sense to do so because his new visuals pop off and the weapons were very lame

[cobalt wharf]

should change the damage mechanics a little bit i think

[lyric trellis]

Aware

[cobalt wharf]

kind of not good rn

[dull heart]

elaborate

not good like the weapon is bad power wise

or not good in some other way

I know how it scales with slots is unusual but why is it not good

[stuck kite]

silly iframes

[cobalt wharf]

i don’t think it is a good thing that the optimal way to use it is to only use 3 slots

and adding more slots is just a trap

[dull heart]

for one, nobody has actually really tested what's optimal for slots afaik, we just know it's not full Mechworm

and I think that's totally fine

That's how vanilla summoner works

I do think that it could be more clear to the player how it works

but I don't think low slot count minions are inherently bad

[cobalt wharf]

hasn’t it been tested several times

#1072668786462834708 message yeah

[lyric trellis]

This should be the same as now also #1072668786462834708 message

[cobalt wharf]

also i don’t think being the same as how vanilla summoner works is a valid argument when cal is changing 90% of how vanilla summoner works

[dull heart]

oh cool

I just missed it when I looked

also from the more recent test it looks like the amount of Mechworm vs Corvid really doesn't matter much

for the others it's like 3-5

[cobalt wharf]

point is it’s substantially worse when you use only mechworm

40 second difference when paired with a normal mid weapon isn’t great

[dull heart]

considering there are other options specifically encouraging mixing with around that tier I think its fine

I am surprised that one Corvid dropped it by 40 seconds

I think that something seems a little odd there

I'll look into how the portal dash distance scales with slots since that's my thought for the culprit

(since eventually more slots makes the portal dash portals further apart to be able to fit Mechworm)

[stone fiber]

Wait, since aeralite is getting reworked, does this mean that air spinner is no more?

[lapis oak]

Half of them (yoyo) are getting put down

Bit by bit

[lyric trellis]

5 year countdown

[dusty tinsel]

Unknown channel damn

Fishing change to make fishing cool?

Is that for calamity or one of your seperate project things

[cobalt wharf]

everything here except the microwave and maybe sulp grabber could die i think

maybe rework oblivion but otherwise everything here doesn’t really do anything

[brave star]

Microwaves be like

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[distant raft]

the fishing minigame is for cal

[cinder hearth]

Honestly in my whole melee playthrough I've never used any of the yoyos

Like I tried them

But they were never good enough or interesting enough

[proud plover]

About that, can we drastically reduce the spawn rate of them in hm so they’re not that annoying anymore while farming

Or maybe even remove their spawn in hm entirely

[distant raft]

that would make evil2 unobtainable if not killed

[lean verge]

if that happens then an npc should sell the summon item so that you don't get locked out of the boss if you skip it

[floral jungle]

you can already craft it and it's cheap

just beat the evil1 boss

and why would you skip them

[stone fiber]

Doesn't look like it

[azure oak]

tomorrow it'll have been a month since the last actual spoiler in #spoilers

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[proud plover]

The recipe for the summon is gonna change

[earnest jewel]

I thought they were planning on moving the evil2 boss.

[proud plover]

Didn’t think of that, but yea maybe in that case a npc could sell it or it could be obtained another way

[proud plover]

Yea but that’s going to take a while

[azure oak]

wonder how the new dialogue ui is gonna look like

[earnest jewel]

Exactly like Mario Sunshine's, for some reason.

[plush carbon]

its peak

[fathom girder]

Nah a rogue dev showed me them early

It's gonna be banjo and kazooie

[earnest jewel]

What noises does each character make in their dialogue.

[azure oak]

draedon makes the same noise as the codebreaker dialogue

[real axle]

draedon getting voice by chris patt?

[spark kiln]

yea

[prisma cipher]

Scal by Zendaya or Chris Pratt?

[real axle]

"Hey, it's me, Calamitas"

[mystic eagle]

Goku!?

[prisma cipher]

I’ve heard you’re strong calamitas,,,

[summer shore]

Scal by tom holland permafrost by rdj

[azure oak]

amidias will be played by a real seahorse

[earnest jewel]

Yharim is Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson and now has 700% more screen time.

[azure oak]

yharim is also now framed as the good guy

[earnest jewel]

Yharim is now in every Roblox game, for some reason.

[azure oak]

yharim takes over times square but the movie will end up a calamity regardless

[limber jackal]

Jack Black

[azure oak]

with what will the next calamity collab be

[mystic eagle]

you

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[azure oak]

oh god i'm becoming a calamity npc

[earnest jewel]

Jack Black will be the Guide. He'll say 'This, is a Work Bench!'

[desert path]

Jack Black will be the Guide. He'll open the door at night and then be eviscerated by Zombies!

[azure oak]

do this with supernova

[hasty tangle]

new challenge pt idea

[fathom girder]

Yes let's bloat the minimap even more

I can't wait to see a total of literally nothing on it when fighting dog

[warm current]

guh

i thought resprited DoG and SLR's worm boss gonna be a battle of who's the biggest worm

but holy shit

[earnest jewel]

There's always a bigger worm.

[warm current]

there's someone redesigned erebus from ultranium mod and for size reference THAT THING IS BIGGER THAN RESPRITED DOG

LITERALLY AN ELDRTICH LEVIATHAN

[summer shore]

Slr has a worm boss?

[earnest jewel]

Invoked Stargod solos.

[late eagle]

Hi guys how are the spo-

[earnest jewel]

You ok?

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[grave geyser]

changelogs are never dropping sorry

[valid crypt]

Is that bigger then invoked stargod which is being made?

[warm current]

Idk if its a worm boss cuz it's segmented and looks like a milipede from the silhouette

[warm current]

How wide is that worm

Cuz length wise it beats erebus obviously

[valid crypt]

Doze is making an addon that adds this but as their take

Idk about width

[warm current]

??????

That's around respirted dog size.......

[valid crypt]

Ah

[warm current]

From the width

[earnest jewel]

But like, uh, a hundred times longer.

[valid crypt]

Erebus wider then

[warm current]

I can't post image or link

I think

Like

If I post it

I might get warned

I could DM though

[lean relic]

dunno
because spoilerous can happen sometimes

[warm current]

I reread the rule

Eh ig I could send the link maybe

Idk

[earnest jewel]

Just say the bosses name and we can look it up.

[valid crypt]

Erebus

[dull heart]

I could make stargod wider

[valid crypt]

Peak

[earnest jewel]

Yeah couldn't find 'em.

Also yes make it bigger. Make it take up the whole screen.

[dull heart]

I can make stargod 1% wider than erebus

[warm current]

Nvm yeah

No wonder I feel like I can't send link

Ip grabber type shii

[valid crypt]

That doesnt seem crazily wider then dog or stargod

[warm current]

Is it?

I thoguht it's wider than resprite dog and stargod

[urban cloak]

dog resprite is probably wider, if not around the same width

also ultranium being alive is crazy

unless that was just done for fun

[warm current]

That's what happen when it turns out people don't just like DoG

[pulsar cobalt]

copied from the twitter link, not sure if it got compressed tho

[warm current]

Oh damn

[urban cloak]

not sure what dog has to do with ultranium's status as a mod but okay ???

[valid crypt]

Ok yeah rather equl

[urban cloak]

hi spam bot

bye spam bot

[warm current]

Worm boss

[urban cloak]

a lot of big content mods have worm bosses idk what your point is

[earnest jewel]

Yeah I think the DoG might be a little big bigger.

[valid crypt]

Double stargods width

[warm current]

Smth tells me DoG rework gonna be slower

Like or more ambushy idk

Cuz no way that thing so big is gonna move at constant high speed in boss fight

💔

[earnest jewel]

I overlayed them, the other one's slightly smaller.

[warm current]

Yeah DoG is a bit bigger but for people to make erebus that massive is wild

[earnest jewel]

Still pretty big.

I got the Terrarian to around the same size as the guide, then rotated 'em.

[warm current]

It's a fansprite btw but still funny, and there's full sprite btw

Lemme find the link and delete it

Ight there

[earnest jewel]

Can't you just send the picture?

[warm current]

........

I didn't know I could

I thought I can't

[earnest jewel]

I've been doing it.

[earnest jewel]

Decently big, though not as long as DoG is currently.

[warm current]

Isn't DoG resprite gonna be shorter too?

[earnest jewel]

Yeah, but that's because of how big it would be.

[warm current]

[valid crypt]

DoG wont be longer then current DoG

[dusk bronze]

same length

[earnest jewel]

But less segments, since the segments are bigger.

[valid crypt]

Same length despite bigger segments

[dull heart]

or I could make him 500 segments

I know how

[earnest jewel]

Do it.

[dusk bronze]

invoking my stargod rn

[dull heart]

(no)

[earnest jewel]

Aw....

[dull heart]

500 segments is so hard to design a boss with

[earnest jewel]

It's simple; Kill the boss before it encircles the entire world.

[fathom girder]

Demon train:

The entire boss fight is spent hacking away at segments, and it gets more furious the less segments it has

[earnest jewel]

Eater of Worlds 2.

[fathom girder]

Eater of worlds but like. Well designed

I still think demon train is one of the better LoZ bosses ever

Just because it's flawlessly executed

[earnest jewel]

So good I forgot it existed...

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[fathom girder]

Literally anything tomorrow

[pseudo vector]

saturday tomorrow

[dense sundial]

Maybe I’ll figure out how to fight Everdark Libra tomorrow

[viral merlin]

Make reworked DoG as long as Cal Destroyer trollface

[stone fiber]

Hey I just got reminded about this, but is blunder booster going to be upgraded into plagued fuel pack instead of being its upgrade (because of dragonfolly retier) or will it stay in the same tier and given a different recipe?

[stone fiber]

Gfb/ftw dog be like

[dense sundial]

I doubt anything about Folly beyond moving the boss is decided

[stone fiber]

Why did I immediately think about Limbus
(Even though Cuphead and Choo Choo Charles are right there)

[hot pebble]

I went into the chat and the first thing I see is:

Fry eggs on my head

[azure oak]

wrong chat

[real axle]

fuck💔

[azure oak]

is ok

[hot pebble]

I need to replace my dinosaur-era processor with an exo-prism. To better understand what's going on here.

[azure oak]

what's going on here is that we haven't been getting as much news for a bit and every other topic has been talked about to death

[hot pebble]

So you can just put a frying pan on my head and fry eggs on it.

cuz my brain has already turned to lava

[wooden blade]

which mod does this come from?

looks cool as hell

[hot pebble]

Who came up with the idea to make the worm bosses huge first?

[slate folio]

Can't believe this was posted a year ago

[lapis oak]

Wow a lot of ancient beings in there

Also did the Fablefish actually die?

It never got mentioned again

[shut ridge]

i lowkey will miss the old gem critters

[wicked temple]

same

[azure oak]

i don't

[fringe quiver]

The lost media creature

find it find it find it find it

[pulsar cobalt]

you could say its a f||legend||

[dusk bronze]

find my fish

collect my sea creatures

[shut ridge]

Me personally i just like the simple style of the old and the consistency between them

[azure oak]

i prefer the variety of the new ones

[dusk bronze]

same

[shut ridge]

Most wholesome calamity spoiler dialogue

[fringe quiver]

I mean i dunno if i'd say that the new ones lack consistency

They're just not literally the same thing lol

[wicked temple]

tbh i prefer them having unique designs

[fringe quiver]

they're kind of cute tho

[wicked temple]

idk they just look like

Rock

to me

but with small body under it

[fringe quiver]

Yeah they're just a lizard guy with a rock on the back

[wicked temple]

mhm

[fringe quiver]

they're kinda cute but other than that they ain't really doing that much

[wicked temple]

the new ones tho like

have identities ig?

idk how to word it

they have personality

i feel

[dull heart]

actual characters

[wicked temple]

mhm

[fringe quiver]

the new ones have designs and aren't just the same very simple base repeated over and over

old calamity designs didnt have much design thought put into them for the most part in the same way most vanilla terraria enemy desigsn probably didnt

but times have changed and now actual thought is put into creature design with designated concept artists and all

[wicked temple]

mhm mhm

tbh personality is an underrated part of creature design

imo

[azure oak]

goobers

[dry whale]

BALL

[azure oak]

the orb will contain the corpse

[earnest jewel]

Which corpse? There's a lot of 'em.

[lapis oak]

Ball

[celest bobcat]

the nefarious amber boulder

[earnest jewel]

Finally, the boulder update.

[azure oak]

new godslayer boulder that flies and homes in

[hallow thunder]

Ngl would be a fun item in a traps only challenge

Or post dog in the notraps seed

[brave star]

Where scarab

[azure oak]

except that there's only 1 thing they home in on

[hallow thunder]

Hug the boss and pray then

[vivid hemlock]

no

[brave star]

The fish from fables

[lapis oak]

Amogus

[vivid hemlock]

you are impostor

[lapis oak]

ඞ!??

[fringe quiver]

@wicked temple have you seen these

[earnest jewel]

They should add a mount that's the balls from Super Monkey Ball.

[stone fiber]

The humble 1.4.5

[wicked temple]

mhm

i have

i love them

[fringe quiver]

Do u know abt the amber crawler?

[wicked temple]

kinda

vaguely

i remember hearing something about it

[fringe quiver]

this creature

basically

the crawler itself is a fossil inside of a giant amber jewel ... hes DEAD

and instead there'll be little scarab guys that roll it around

[wicked temple]

wtf

extinct?

bc of the incineration?

[fringe quiver]

might be

dunno if specifically bc of incineration but seems likely

[earnest jewel]

Should have just tanked getting incinerated. Casual.

[wicked temple]

rip the creature

[fringe quiver]

then again why would bro be inside a gaint amber jewel

[wicked temple]

i'll miss him

[fringe quiver]

where that come from

[wicked temple]

what did it look like before

[fringe quiver]

its ok u get little bug scarab guy instead

[wicked temple]

wtf

whats the scarab bug

[keen zodiac]

all i can think of is one of those jew scutlers in the orb like a hamster ball

[fringe quiver]

weird bipedal dinosaur creature

atleast looking at the skeleton

with seemingly no arms

it just has legs

on that note the way the left leg bends is kind of odd but given the sprite will probably be small and inside a Ball ingame it might not be a big deal since it wouldnt be noticeable

[wicked temple]

mhm

i like the idea of one of them being like

gone

and it fits amber specifically bc u find that in the desert ya?

[fringe quiver]

im dead! -the amber of justice or something

[fringe quiver]

mhm

desert enemy

[pearl sentinel]

what scutlers

[fringe quiver]

only desert

i think they meant jewel

😭

[wicked temple]

my deserts gone 💔

[fringe quiver]

all of the other scuttlers just spawn in caves in general but amber is exclusive to desert

underground desert is getting like

6 new enemies

in sso

well

not exactly 6 new enemies but basically

given 2 of those are just reworks of existing enemies

[pearl sentinel]

how do i break it to cheese where the sunken sea is

[fringe quiver]

bebe scourges
the 4 stormlion variants (only one ingame currently)
amber crawler (ingame currently but just looks and acts like all the others)

[wicked temple]

under the jungle

[dusk bronze]

true

[fringe quiver]

i was a bit afraid itd be like way too many enemies but
bebe scourges i think will only spawn in and around scourge nests
and stormlions more or less gradually replace regular antlions the closer you get to the sunken sea

so its actually pretty balanced i think

[wicked temple]

maybe :3

i like the idea of baby scourges being around

[fringe quiver]

We've seen this guy

bebe..

Dunno if this is like the DS master mode pet or a ds baby critter or a enemy or what

but it sure is a bebe scoog

[desert path]

I hope it's a critter

large critter

[wicked temple]

same

[dusk bronze]

the beast

[wicked temple]

smal DS critter would go crazy

[pearl sentinel]

probably like 1300 calories

[azure oak]

need large critters

[wicked temple]

real

[desert path]

let me put large critters in comically large terrariums

[fringe quiver]

dont eat him

[desert path]

10 x 10 terrarium

[dense sundial]

but will they drop ashes of war?

[fringe quiver]

Apparently this is a summon weapon that'll drop from amber crawlers?
Might be a look into what the little scarab dudes are gonna look like but they might also be different and this is just the summon

[wicked temple]

:o

woa

cute

[keen zodiac]

to me that could be the result of throwing an amber rod into shimmer

[fringe quiver]

amber rod?

huh

[valid crypt]

Isnt that not guaranteed to get in game?

[azure oak]

probably meant amber staff

[fringe quiver]

idk lol

[fringe quiver]

oh that makes sense

well either way it isnt

its a amber crawler drop

thats been confirmed already

[fringe quiver]

i think tobias pasted it on calart or smth? idk much of the context of it other than Bebe Scourge

[wicked temple]

meow

[fringe quiver]

mew

[azure oak]

was looking through the wiki for shits n' giggles and why was "1.1.5.0947" ever a thing and where did .0942 - .0947 go

[earnest jewel]

Killed.

[fringe quiver]

how fabsolian...

[earnest jewel]

Is that like dystopian, but more, well...

[fringe quiver]

fabsol update numbers

very fabsolian truly

[wicked temple]

fabslo

[azure oak]

a hundred more reworks that reinvent weapons in fun & unique ways to make them stand out ples

[earnest jewel]

Don't listen to them, what we really want is more worms!

[keen zodiac]

a post DoG nightglow would be cool

[azure oak]

only complaint i have for the thermocline blaster line is that it's just alternating rather than dual wielding guns 😔

[wicked temple]

i want more fishes

[azure oak]

also flak toxicannon & flak kraken my beloved

[lapis oak]

isn't that what we're getting

[azure oak]

yes and i want it

[earnest jewel]

They should add thought provoking new dialogue to flesh out the characters and expand on their history.

[thorny glacier]

[analog helm]

i will melt you with my evil burning gaze

[lusty stirrup]

nice try diddy

@mods cleanup on isle 6

[shut ridge]

Omg wow thanks!

[lusty stirrup]

ts fake brother

[shut ridge]

It's extremely real and good what on earth are you talking about

[lusty stirrup]

[analog helm]

love me a 1.jpg in the morning

[shut ridge]

[analog helm]

muahaha i melted them

[lusty stirrup]

my goat

[thorny glacier]

and i accidentally touched one of them links…

[lusty stirrup]

enjoy identity theft loser….

[thorny glacier]

if i get hacked, remember folks…

changelogs tomorrow

[keen zodiac]

auto spam block my belovid

[dusty tinsel]

If you get hacked you will be terminated

[fathom girder]

that was pretty obvious

[dusty tinsel]

Though if all you did was click on it and not actually go to the link

[fathom girder]

if you get hacked I'll laugh at u

[dusty tinsel]

You should be fine

I did that by accident and my account wasn't taken over

[fathom girder]

-# yet

[dusty tinsel]

It was like a month ago

[fathom girder]

ig scammers aren't very patient

you're probably safe yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Discord saved me with are you sure you want to go here

But anyway maybe I hacked myself

[fathom girder]

I guess we'll never know

[dull heart]

ok

[azure oak]

thnak you

[dull heart]

in the past like two or three weeks I've done Stratus and DoG items

what's one more set

[lapis oak]

Perennial set

[dull heart]

no I wasn't actually asking

[lapis oak]

vas?

[main falcon]

oh yeah i forgot

omega bloodfin mention

i die again

[analog helm]

thank you jesus

[molten grove]

sorry, im in the mountains for until sunday night!
changelogs guaranteed not tomorrow

[dusk bronze]

nice

i just got back from vacation

[pearl sentinel]

i cant find this on reverse image search are you actually in yosemite national park

[fathom girder]

Bro is having a life

can't believe this

[analog helm]

dont forget to get a random pebble and bring it with u

[earnest jewel]

Mountains are caused by plate tectonics, plate tectonics happen under the earth, under the earth is under ground, something that is buried underground can be described as sunk... Sunken Sea tomorrow...

[cobalt wharf]

hoenn confirmed

[arctic cliff]

if you want sunken sea tomorrow you must sink into the bottom of yellowstone's bigger magma chamber

[fringe quiver]

changelogs sometime after sunday (unspecified)

this is as far as i am aware a objectively correct statement

[earnest jewel]

Changelogs in the near, yet not immediate future, subjectively.

[fringe quiver]

true!

[pulsar cobalt]

changelogs in the future, probably

[fringe quiver]

Changelogs Eventually

[earnest jewel]

Changelogs when they change their logs I don't know I'm not an accountant.

[fringe quiver]

Changelogs when they change their longs i don't know i'm not a tree

[molten grove]

not yosemite, king’s canyon
where the biggest trees in the world are

[earnest jewel]

Isn't that the guy from Looney Tunes?

[gaunt ibex]

dumass name

[earnest jewel]

Someone pick up their kid.

[molten grove]

anyways theres here, this means sunken sea inspiration

.

[gaunt ibex]

not being the target of the joke and still getting offended is crazy work

[earnest jewel]

Water... water has two vowels in it, the opposite of vowel is constanant, constanant sounds like constant, at war, there is constant screams, Ilmeris was at war, the result of that war? Created the sunken sea. Sunken Sea Overhaul confirmed.

[hushed hazel]

l + ratio + stop being a nerd + you're going in the acid pit

[halcyon seal]

hey does anyone have that super blurry brimmy resprite

need to show it to a friend

[dusk bronze]

the newest one?

[halcyon seal]

yeah

[earnest jewel]

It was in the lore channel a bit ago, can't find it...

Found it, it was here.

[halcyon seal]

thanks

[earnest jewel]

So many people made the ignore the spoon joke.

But I was the latest, luckily.

Ok, it was like, four, but still.

Why is there a spoon version.

[dull heart]

where's goku

[earnest jewel]

He's inside our hearts. And also turned into a worm boss.

[terse dew]

👎

[earnest jewel]

Wow, someone doesn't have a worm Goku inside.

[earnest jewel]

Ravager?

[lapis oak]

ඞ

[dusk bronze]

💥

[earnest jewel]

Wait, that's the Moon Lord's Legs! Full Fovos Fight confirmed!

[dull heart]

That isn't...

that's omega blue pants

[pulsar cobalt]

thats excelsus

[dull heart]

true

[earnest jewel]

You can't hide behind the lies!

[lapis oak]

why are you swinging it backward

[earnest jewel]

Omega Blue isn't real!

[dusk bronze]

true

[dull heart]

I'm not

it's facing the correct direction for the direction I'm swinging it

[lapis oak]

nice

non usestyle1 swing ☺️

[earnest jewel]

I know you're hiding Full Fovos somewhere! And I know he's a worm boss!

[dull heart]

True

[dusk bronze]

:D

[dull heart]

there's more though

[fringe quiver]

For a hot second i thought this was a official discord emoji

wild

[pearl sentinel]

👯‍♂️

[fringe quiver]

this one is though

[lapis oak]

that glowing thing is not the current Excelsus's projectiles, it's the DoG mouth

same as God Slayer dash

[dull heart]

true

[lapis oak]

😆

this is gonna go hard

[dull heart]

True

[pulsar cobalt]

🕴️

[fringe quiver]

Aurafarming emoji

my favorite

[fathom girder]

the update is never releasing

I shake the doze ball

o magic doze ball, am I truthing or am I noing

[dull heart]

no

[dull heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1405712853511700551/image.png?ex=68a07c5d&is=689f2add&hm=d0ee08d8ca1b82d6cc722a6a6758b54f204c9df795731164b0f483b2622b14c2&

[dusk bronze]

yooooo

sick

[lapis oak]

true melee?

Mandible Blade type shit

[dull heart]

no

[dull heart]

good game

[lapis oak]

what crackhead idea have u given to it

[dull heart]

true

[earnest jewel]

Is that Goku?

[summer shore]

Hell yeah

Excelsus really leaning into the dog jaw shape

[earnest jewel]

Why don't we just, ya know, rip one of 'em off and swing that?

[dusk bronze]

yharon moment

[dull heart]

True

[fathom girder]

Oh, so excelsus isn't getting axed? Joyous day

[dull heart]

True

[tropic jolt]

metal gear excelsus

[earnest jewel]

Metal Gear?

[dusk bronze]

my snake is solid

[tropic jolt]

invisible