calamity-update-talk

[summer shore]

Animosity vs waffle

[jaunty sequoia]

Skeletron trying not to have the worst loot possible challenge impossible

[inner timber]

?

looks in the abyss

fuck do you mean bad

[buoyant pulsar]

tbh calclone gear vs the wall kinda goes hard

[distant raft]

dungeon

[buoyant pulsar]

me with a single eye of cthulhu spawner

[jaunty sequoia]

I only go to the dungeon for like three things ever

The dungeon is one of the worst parts of terraria

[inner timber]

nah really hold on the only tomfoolery I can say is BAD from skeletron is book of skulls and that's just boring as shit comapred to literally every other mage option post skeletron its still good

[distant raft]

you say this like abusing the entity cap is an intentional part of the game

[buoyant pulsar]

true...

[hushed hazel]

really?

[inner timber]

get staff of necros then

[hushed hazel]

that's a new one

[hexed basalt]

scal is being retiered to the first boss in progression and desert scourge is taking her place

[inner timber]

yeaah yeaaaah

[hushed hazel]

don't think i've seen dungeon hate before

outside of like

[inner timber]

desert sepulcher

[hushed hazel]

cracked bricks existing

[buoyant pulsar]

cracked bricks are hilarious

[jaunty sequoia]

True

[inner timber]

bottom 10 addition gameplay wise but it so fucking funny conceptually

ok so you know this maze . yeah we're adding breakable walls fuck you

[jaunty sequoia]

I just think the setting/enemies/sudden difficulty spike post plantera is pretty garbage

[hushed hazel]

imagine if dark souls had entire areas hidden behind illusory walls

that'd be crazy

wait.

[jaunty sequoia]

That and I have almost no incentive to go there unless calamity forces me to go there

Or to like get loot from there that I’d literally rather get from anywhere else

[inner timber]

this is like most of the game if you dont care about the shit in there

[jaunty sequoia]

To be honest

[hushed hazel]

i'm still a jungle hater

[jaunty sequoia]

I do really wish I had incentive to visit the sulfurous sea and abyss way more often

[jaunty sequoia]

Fair

[buoyant pulsar]

jungle is peak. but bombing out an entire cavern sucks

[pulsar cobalt]

terraria is insane

[inner timber]

vernal pass sweep

[jaunty sequoia]

Jungle is probably one of my least favorite biomes

[buoyant pulsar]

i personally love jungle but the hate is valid

[hushed hazel]

so many annoying enemies and you have no choice but to go there cause two out of the three jungle bosses in vanilla are mandatory

[jaunty sequoia]

Fuck everything with a stinger early game and early hm

[pulsar cobalt]

oh yea jungle, bee drops, all of hell and dungeon are the same tier

like

what.

[hushed hazel]

at least with the underground desert if you find it insufferable you can entirely ignore its existence

[buoyant pulsar]

hahahahhhhahahhahaha blue moon is good we promise hhahahaha

[inner timber]

tbf blue moon is good its just immediately outclassed by sunfury

[buoyant pulsar]

exactly

[jaunty sequoia]

But like Slime god is the most fun pre hm fight tho

[buoyant pulsar]

TRUE

TRUE AS FUCK

[inner timber]

its like a muramasa night's edge situation

[inner timber]

you're not ready for my evil ass take

[jaunty sequoia]

Your lack of mobility kind of makes slime god more fun

[pulsar cobalt]

nights edge when 3 of the 4 components are "the same tier"

😭

[buoyant pulsar]

counterpoint, slime god is like the first point where you actually do have decent mobility

and thats why its fun for me at least

[jaunty sequoia]

Kind of true

[inner timber]

you people dont mobilitymaxx at all dear god

[jaunty sequoia]

But it feels like you have to Jerry rig the mobility to do so

Which I do like

[inner timber]

boots and sandstorm balloon is enough for the entirety of phm lowkey

throw in frog leg and you're golden

[jaunty sequoia]

But if you were in hardmode I feel like with the mobility you have slime god isn’t even a threat

Setting aside the dps and tier difference

[inner timber]

fledgling wings and frog leg sweep

[jaunty sequoia]

Well?

[buoyant pulsar]

grapple fling sweep

[inner timber]

brain

[buoyant pulsar]

fucked up

actually i got a worse take

pre boss perfs

[jaunty sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/get-tf-out-get-out-zimba-lion-king-monkey-gif-1461417101263154936

Embed fail

[buoyant pulsar]

📠

[inner timber]

trivial boss this is barely a restriction

[buoyant pulsar]

do u play exclusively death master

[jaunty sequoia]

Actually perfs >>>> hivemind

[inner timber]

no but even if i did they would still be trivial

[mild crest]

Facts

[buoyant pulsar]

i never do corruption lol

[jaunty sequoia]

Actually tbh crimson in general >>>>>>> corrupt

[inner timber]

hell in leg death they were trivial (just slow as fuck) (5 minute kill 1 attempt lmfao)

[inner timber]

underground corruption theme sweep

[jaunty sequoia]

I want brain of confusion every time

[inner timber]

you can get it ina corruption world in cal

[mild crest]

Shimmer

[jaunty sequoia]

Yeah but

Then I’d have to play corruption

[buoyant pulsar]

did you kill them as first boss?

[jaunty sequoia]

🤮

[calm ingot]

Evil island and shimmer

[inner timber]

no i just did it as on tier mage

[buoyant pulsar]

im saying first boss perfs

[inner timber]

i know they'd still be trivial

[jaunty sequoia]

Yeah but why do that when I can play crimson?

[inner timber]

it would just take longer

[calm ingot]

Because crimson is icky

And ugly

[jaunty sequoia]

I’ve done it before

[buoyant pulsar]

guy who

[calm ingot]

Corruption is kewl

[buoyant pulsar]

same, its fun

[jaunty sequoia]

Bad*

[inner timber]

most of your available mobility is preboss

[jaunty sequoia]

Why tf would I want to fight MORE worm bosses?

[mild crest]

And hive mind

[inner timber]

perfs is 3 worm bosses in 1

[jaunty sequoia]

Brain ripoff

[jaunty sequoia]

With slime god core

[inner timber]

?

[jaunty sequoia]

The nest itself

[inner timber]

blows you up

[jaunty sequoia]

Kind of acts like a slime god core

[calm ingot]

Idk but perfs are one

[jaunty sequoia]

In the same way the worms are the paladins to the nest

[calm ingot]

Perfs are 3

Actually

[mild crest]

Slime god core was cool in infernum

[jaunty sequoia]

Perfs are three worms and a nest actually

[buoyant pulsar]

fabsol dream boss

[calm ingot]

3 worms and a piece of broccoli that pees on you

[inner timber]

chat we should have master death twins have 6 eyes

dystopian calamity universe

[jaunty sequoia]

Um are you really saying that when hivemind gets clouds to piss on you?

That shit is way more annoying

[mild crest]

Quadruple destroyer

[jaunty sequoia]

Dear god

[inner timber]

masdeath slime god gets 4 paladins and each split 3 times for 32 paladins at smallest

[jaunty sequoia]

Please rework master death sprime 🙏

[inner timber]

one of them is ice so that they can freeze you

[jaunty sequoia]

And please don’t get rid of difficulty mixing

[inner timber]

better for balancing i think

[azure oak]

yeah

less difficulties that need to be balanced

[calm ingot]

Having to make like 10 versions of the same boss seems too redundant

[jaunty sequoia]

But you’re removing more ways to play

[inner timber]

so was removing malice mode

do you want malice mode back

[jaunty sequoia]

Yes

[inner timber]

[jaunty sequoia]

Have it as a stupid option

[calm ingot]

Gfb is the new stupid option

[jaunty sequoia]

Legendary death won’t be taken out right?

[inner timber]

besides if you want more difficulties just do ftw exrev or masdeath or legdeath

[mild crest]

Infernum

[calm ingot]

No and it’s getting renamed to malice actually

[inner timber]

at most i would imagine it would just get renamed

[jaunty sequoia]

Actually I imagine mechdusa on legendary death would be fixed because it no longer has the master death sprime ai

[inner timber]

thats specifically gfb

[jaunty sequoia]

Yeah

[inner timber]

ftw doesn't have mechdusa

[jaunty sequoia]

Ik

Side tangent

[inner timber]

terrible btw why does he blow up blocks

[jaunty sequoia]

SHe doesn’t

[inner timber]

yeah he does

[jaunty sequoia]

NOPE

removed feature in calamity

[inner timber]

ftw legdeath prime bombs blow blocks up unless they removed it in 2.0.5

[jaunty sequoia]

It’s been removed for a while

[inner timber]

he blew them up january of this year for me

so

[jaunty sequoia]

Idk what to tell you man; she doesn’t blow up tiles

[inner timber]

why are you callin bro she

[jaunty sequoia]

It’s named after Medusa

[inner timber]

ftw doesnt have mechdusa

[jaunty sequoia]

Who is a she in Greek mythology

[inner timber]

im not talking about gfb

im talking about ftw

[jaunty sequoia]

Oh you said sprime

[inner timber]

Yeah

[jaunty sequoia]

Oh then yeah I’m pretty sure that’s also removed

[inner timber]

idk brah i have screenies

[jaunty sequoia]

Idk I’ve never done ftw

[inner timber]

anyways im goin to sleep i think

[jaunty sequoia]

Only gfb

[pseudo vector]

"more ways to play the game" when we've already got quite a lot to maintain with rev and death by themselves

[jaunty sequoia]

But

Expert death is my favorite

I don’t want to be locked out of the death mode ai just because I picked expert

Master mode is just ass stat bloat anyways

[hushed hazel]

just as the founding fathers intended

[inner timber]

ok but ... it won't be ...... eventually

[pulsar cobalt]

no it will be

[azure oak]

actually master mode is being reverted to just stat changes

[hushed hazel]

still funny to me how fab said he wasn't gonna "fix" master mode and then later on when he did i asked what changed and he basically went "i got bored"

[inner timber]

yeah thats the clueless part

[azure oak]

but in turn revengeance & death wont have their own stat changes iirc

[inner timber]

not ridiculous

[jaunty sequoia]

The founding fathers of master mode were smoking Ayahuasca

[hushed hazel]

yeag

[inner timber]

i am curious on what fab would have done to the remaining bosses

i like a few of the changes (green jewel is nice)

[jaunty sequoia]

In like 49844773 years

[hushed hazel]

foveanator

[jaunty sequoia]

Idk master death king slime is kind of fucked up

[inner timber]

i still think twins would need a genuine overhaul to make it triplets

[jaunty sequoia]

That shit is a war crime

[inner timber]

i think he's chill I just also think the rest of the earlier bosses arent difficult enough compared to him

[hushed hazel]

a year from now people are gonna be telling new players about the master changes like this

[inner timber]

his bullshittery comes from the other bosses being too tame

[jaunty sequoia]

No fr king slime is arguably way harder than the next few bosses in master death

[inner timber]

and ice spikes fuck the ice spikes

[pulsar cobalt]

this is literally now about malice

[inner timber]

counterpoint, malice brain shat on like every boss beyond then till like post ml so its really actually better than how malice was

[jaunty sequoia]

There really is a SpongeBob meme for everything

[hushed hazel]

exactly

[jaunty sequoia]

Add malice back and make yardis play it

[inner timber]

malice can be restrained by just having like speed modifiers

reattained

[pseudo vector]

i need to find the new difficulty chart that yuh posted last week

its much simpler

[hushed hazel]

didn't fargo make a mod that lets you give bosses and enemies a configurable speed boost

[inner timber]

yeah

hyper mode

[hushed hazel]

close enough

welcome back malice mode

[inner timber]

apparently it has some odd interactions

[jaunty sequoia]

Fargo took away eternity master too 😭

[pseudo vector]

here it is

its a lot simpler for players, and easier for us to maintain in the long run

[inner timber]

like if you have the speed buffs at like, 2x, paladins split twice into 4 smaller paladins

snd 3x turns to 6

[inner timber]

ftw getting fucking killed what the hell 💔

[jaunty sequoia]

So revengeance will be harder than master?

[pseudo vector]

i mean master is just stat changes

[azure oak]

could be considered different methods of increasing difficulty

[pseudo vector]

rev adds the ai changes to make the fights harder

and death just amplifies that

[inner timber]

is this real 😔

[jaunty sequoia]

PLEASE create a more useful use for celestial onion in master

Literally any kind of buff at all

[inner timber]

+1 mana

[jaunty sequoia]

I’d take it at that point

[distant raft]

thats because it was exclusively stat bloat

there were zero other changes

[jaunty sequoia]

But I liked the extra slot

[inner timber]

external mods:

[distant raft]

then you can play maso

[hushed hazel]

didn't they remove the onion drop from master

[jaunty sequoia]

But it’s cheating now

[pseudo vector]

[jaunty sequoia]

Ik it’s single player

[inner timber]

man who cares people regularly use wing slot

[jaunty sequoia]

But it feels less earned

[inner timber]

just use fargos mutant to double boss hp and damage

[jaunty sequoia]

I don’t consider them ”people”

[hushed hazel]

who is "we"

[azure oak]

who is "we"

[inner timber]

then it is literally jus master eternity

[jaunty sequoia]

We speaking French now?

Oui oui

[hushed hazel]

idk man you said it

[azure oak]

changelogs tomororw

[lapis oak]

Doze is a rogue dev I know he will leak everything tomorrow

Just watch

[left sequoia]

i wonder if the update is going to be in summer becuse its the unground sea update

[inner timber]

we look in #spoilers and its just a tmod file

[left sequoia]

and summer has a running theam of going to the sea

if not crisimuse

[azure oak]

there is no plan for a release

[hushed hazel]

probably not

[azure oak]

it'll release when it's done

[left sequoia]

its gess

ya

[hushed hazel]

from how progress has been described it doesn't sound like it's in a "finish within less than a month" state

[azure oak]

more likely to release fall to winter

[left sequoia]

that what i think

i think after fab left

the plains change a lot

[hushed hazel]

they did indeed

[left sequoia]

resalting in more freedome to do a lot more

[hushed hazel]

they actually have the ability to make meaningful changes to the boss fights now

[azure oak]

gecko scourge..

[pseudo vector]

the scoog

[hushed hazel]

the scoog

[pseudo vector]

i love calling him scoog

[azure oak]

the scoog.

[lapis oak]

Fat

[left sequoia]

i think now thay can change the bosses the plains change and thuse thay diciteded to push to add more

[azure oak]

no new bosses are being added other than yharim and maybe noxus & xeroc

[left sequoia]

so winter it is then

[pseudo vector]

it'll release when its done

when will it be done? idk

you'll just have to see

[left sequoia]

we are just predcting when

it look like thay are play testing and devloping DOG

[pseudo vector]

yup

[left sequoia]

thay are testing the RIFT

and Testing the size

[mystic eagle]

And technically Primordial Wyrm aswell

[mystic eagle]

That is not true however

[pseudo vector]

we've been working on a temporary rework of dog to make the fight good for the time being, before we go for the full rework later on with the new sprite

[halcyon seal]

Rare sand :)

[mystic eagle]

The rift in the video is purely a visual effect and the size will remain the same, for now

[left sequoia]

the "stargod" (the test boss) was a test to see how it can work with the plaind size

[halcyon seal]

Hey there’s a new boss being added in distortion, its called the Devourer of Gods

[hushed hazel]

this changes everything

[real axle]

no way

[left sequoia]

not goona lie the RIFT looks crazy

[azure oak]

invoked stargod is completely unrelated to any calamity plan

doze is just kinda making it because they want to

[pseudo vector]

invoked stargod is just doze fucking around with an old community injoke lol

that boss is hilarious

[halcyon seal]

Stargod exists because did you know boss 1 is the best non specific boss theme and it’s not close

[left sequoia]

thenks for insight

[pseudo vector]

there's a gif that i don't have my hands on rn

but i know which one i'm thinking of

[left sequoia]

i was not shure if it was real testing or for jokes

[pseudo vector]

yeah that one LMAO

thank you invoked stargod

[left sequoia]

over 350+ segmanes

[valid crypt]

Fucking how

Doesnt terraria have a limit of 200

[pseudo vector]

i don't remember but invoked stargod was a fucking anomaly

[real axle]

virgin astreum deus vs chad invoked stargod

[mystic eagle]

Have you not seen the performance in the gif

[halcyon seal]

Adding stargod to the next all addons playthrough

[valid crypt]

I do and im not surprised at it
Surprised it was possible to get that many in the first place

[mystic eagle]

The segment limit solely exists so that your pc does not explode

[left sequoia]

i know for a fact that the calmaty conunty redux is going to mod this in

[high scaffold]

My faorite calamity boss, reconstruction

[left sequoia]

i also saw a new wepone and it was based from contaltions

[mystic eagle]

Destruction boss when

[mystic eagle]

Excuse me but what

[left sequoia]

stars joint to gather

[azure oak]

probably meant "i also saw a new weapon and it was based on constellations"

[mystic eagle]

Those are the stratus weapons reworks

[left sequoia]

thenks

there also the dragon wepone that got reworked

[pseudo vector]

there's a lot of weapons getting reworked in SSO

[lapis oak]

Why are your English like that

[left sequoia]

i also hared that devil's devstation and all the sword to make it had also been changed

[lapis oak]

This doesn't look like translator

[left sequoia]

and its appacnaly "kicks ass"

[pseudo vector]

the largest number of reworks in any update to the mod

(and probably ever)

(we are not doing an update this big ever again)

[azure oak]

this list is incomplete

[mystic eagle]

SSO is literally just Scope Creep

[pseudo vector]

yeah i think there's more than what's shown there

[azure oak]

scope creep: the update

[lapis oak]

Of course of course

[pseudo vector]

its scope creep and fabsol when he used to have a chokehold on a lot of things

[left sequoia]

i think someone need to make a new one

[pulsar cobalt]

u can add nearly the entire stratus line there too

[lapis oak]

Changelogs are slow

[azure oak]

nuh uh

[left sequoia]

i think its a nasty combow

[azure oak]

weapons are only added if they're in changelogs

[left sequoia]

becuse there was a lot pland and fab didnt what to do this

so it was delayed

[fathom girder]

They used chatgpt to pass English class

[left sequoia]

then the update ceepted expanding becuse there was nothing to do

then after fabsol steped down every one whanted to add this

[lapis oak]

Chatgpt or not there is a lot of grammar mistakes in their messages

And translators don't do that

[left sequoia]

so my geass is that its exploteded in scoop

[buoyant pulsar]

is there any info about ion blaster and apoctosis array reworks

[azure oak]

no

[pseudo vector]

uhhhhh

idk

[buoyant pulsar]

is there any info regarding how cool you think the name apoctosis array is

[pseudo vector]

i mean i think its a cool name

[buoyant pulsar]

orios write that down write that down

[azure oak]

chart only regards what's been changed

[buoyant pulsar]

okay its 5 am and i must sleep or i will die

[azure oak]

apoctosis ray doesn't have a new name

[azure oak]

god damn

[pseudo vector]

bro sleep

[fathom girder]

Orios, you've gotta make a list of things the devs find cool

Crow SLEEB

NaaaaOW

Good night

[buoyant pulsar]

okay chat 😢

my ear ringing

okay im 🛏️

[lapis oak]

Why u keep doing this to yourself

Balding next year

[distant raft]

theyre technically not enemies

i remember doze explained it before

[azure oak]

calamity mod

[dull heart]

No

[lapis oak]

osu gameplay

[fathom girder]

Hell yeah osu gameplay

Smash and osu references made by doze for clam mod

[azure oak]

what if halley's inferno had launch star vfx

[dull heart]

oh my goodness launch star

launch star would be too difficult to make look how I want

in the one place I could see using it

[fathom girder]

the one piece...

[warm current]

oh that's the named of the overgrown deus?

[fathom girder]

Yea, it is

[azure oak]

what's a starburst

[valid crypt]

The creature in this gif

[warm current]

i tried to search it up and i found a pixiv link that led me another waifufied terraria bosses

[fathom girder]

Yeah uh

invoked stargod is kinda obscure

[warm current]

so there's only that gif

wtf

💔

is there any link to 1.3 mod of it

[dull heart]

I know exactly the link you mean

[warm current]

cuz this is definitely 1.3 only stuff

[fathom girder]

the mod doesn't exist

Like that old stargod does not exist anymore

[dull heart]

because the only artist that has ever drawn Stargod that I can find was in Weavercord

[dull heart]

there's that and a couple other sprites

[warm current]

me when i try to search up terraria mods stuff and there's actually some erebus arts

like really

[dull heart]

They drew a surprising amount of them too (like 3 times)

[warm current]

i didn't expect it

[azure oak]

doze calamity mod what's a starburst

[warm current]

damn

[dull heart]

Stratus set mechanic

[warm current]

ayo?

is this armor set stuff?

[dull heart]

no

[warm current]

wait so

[dull heart]

like the item set of stratus

[warm current]

all stratus weapon has it

[dull heart]

yes

[warm current]

wait is this like a gimmicky debuff?

[dull heart]

Every Stratus item both has a way to generate and consume Starbursts

and Starbursts are shared between all the items

[warm current]

damn

i guess this ain't gonna be in SSO

[dull heart]

they were inspired by Mario Galaxy starbits

[azure oak]

so if halley's comet is very "mario galaxy pilled"

[late eagle]

🦐

[azure oak]

does it just rapid fire out lil star bits and use starbursts as ammo

[dull heart]

It probably will

[dull heart]

yes

[inner thunder]

make it so polterghast is incompatible with infernum

[azure oak]

cool

[dull heart]

it also keeps the same main fire

[stone zephyr]

luma lee luma bop

[fathom girder]

Stratus class

[warm current]

wait actually how much does SSO content even cover? I thought it's mostly sunken sea itself like ik the overhaul of the biome itself is huge but how about non-sunken sea content?

[fathom girder]

SSO is like

an overhaul of the entire mod at this point

[warm current]

no way

[azure oak]

when stratus stuff is resprited, adding a tinge of purple and/or red like ruinous souls has could be neat

[warm current]

that's a gud idea

[dull heart]

the changelog for SSO is almost at 500k characters

[azure oak]

i'll let this speak for itself (and this is only the stuff in changelogs)

[hasty tangle]

its the sunken scope (creep) update

[warm current]

having some sign of crafting materials put in the weapons is smth i like

[pulsar cobalt]

wasnt this like 14 or 17% of weapons or smthn

(forgot the exact number)

[dull heart]

1/7th of weapons roughly I think was what y'all decided on

[valid crypt]

😭

[warm current]

the pack is a bit funny cuz if you think about it, design wise despite it's just a destiny weapon, it got some of that fancy looks from the marble blocks

[pulsar cobalt]

ye thats 14%

[warm current]

mineral mortar though, it got some details of forbidden shard for it's body

[azure oak]

i actually wanna try something

when are the "modern reworks / items" considered to have started

[dull heart]

sometime before yesterday

[pulsar cobalt]

probably 1.5

[warm current]

holy fucking shit long time of waiting for the new update and i just noticed the reworked weapon part is fucktons alot

[pulsar cobalt]

1.5 has stuff like exhumes, ark, clockwork bow

things that just feel more new

[warm current]

i barely remember but is there teaser stuff of reworked leviatitan?

or did i get my memory wrong

[azure oak]

clockwork bow & ark stuff are after the draedon update

[dull heart]

Ark stuff is probably the earliest I can think of

[pulsar cobalt]

i meant

1.5.1

(ark update basically)

[azure oak]

so 1.5.1 and beyond would be considered "modern"?

[dull heart]

except the way weapons are done now is super different than then

[pulsar cobalt]

not all of them

but yea

its more of a feel of "is this done well"

[warm current]

i'm curious how blissful bombardier and shpc rework gonna be

wait is the reworked shpc gonna be easier to craft?

cuz i remember SHPC is a pain to get

[azure oak]

for simplicity's sake i'll just consider 1.5.1 and beyond as "modern"

[warm current]

and smth about it was legendary weapon or smth which explains the grind for it

[pulsar cobalt]

like

[dull heart]

honestly 22 especially screwed things up

Iban's stuff 1.5.1 on was pretty modern but not a lot of the other stuff

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

like

the prince is also from 1.5.1

[dull heart]

I don't feel like there's almost anything truly modern in current calamity

2.1 is going to be a huge jump

[pulsar cobalt]

there is some stuff but its such a small minority

[pseudo vector]

2.1 is gonna modernise cal in a big way (probably)

its definitely gonna highlight the items that haven't been touched in a long time though lol

an example i can come up with off the top of my head is shadowbolt staff and phantasmal fury vs ghastly visage and fate's reveal lol

[fathom girder]

Can't wait for it to release

in um

5 years :D

[thorny glacier]

hm… cal should bring labubus in terraria

[thorny glacier]

rookie number

u probably meant 5000000 years

[fathom girder]

no I meant 5

[dull heart]

One day for every character in the changelog

See you in 496K days

[halcyon seal]

Cal should add a lethal injection that deletes system32 from your pc upon use

[lapis oak]

ayo? CDMusic leak???

Fate's Reveal rework let's go boy Mage is getting another one

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

wait...

am I dumb?

ye I am

😔

[pseudo vector]

neither fate's reveal or ghostly visage are getting reworked

[lapis oak]

the rot is getting to the brain...

[pseudo vector]

i was just mentioning 2 reworked weapons vs 2 old weapons

[lapis oak]

I missed that very important "vs"

[pseudo vector]

the difference is quite funny

[dull heart]

post polter mage eating well

[pseudo vector]

dude mages in general are eating well

[dull heart]

shadowbolt, phantasmal fury, and clamor noctus

[pseudo vector]

hardmode mage is so peak

except maybe around post-plant

[dull heart]

I need to get chaos stone merged

[pseudo vector]

post-cultist mage is peak once you get your hands on meld blobs

[dull heart]

have you seen the new chaos stone yet

[fathom girder]

chaos stone seems like it'll be a hard carry for mage

[pseudo vector]

i don't think so

[fathom girder]

Mana burn :D

[pseudo vector]

i'll need to see it

[pulsar cobalt]

send the video doze

[lapis oak]

CD Chaos Stone is heaven sent gift

[lapis oak]

generational savior for Mage

[pseudo vector]

what the fuck

[fathom girder]

Chaos stone is legitimately gonna be a BIS accessory

[lapis oak]

🙏

[dull heart]

It also works for multiclass bc anything applies Mana Burn while you have negative mana

[lapis oak]

Chaos Stone fans rise up

[pseudo vector]

that shit looks crazy lmao

[dull heart]

Not just mage weapons

[fathom girder]

So what you're saying

is stratus sphere

[thorny glacier]

will yharim’s crystal be reworked? it’s just last prism but it alternates between names of prominent people

[fathom girder]

use all mana, swap to stratus weapons

[dull heart]

It will eventually

[dull heart]

Stratus Sphere doesn't use mana

[fathom girder]

...yeah that was my point

[dull heart]

oh

I see

[fathom girder]

lol

[dull heart]

I thought you meant to use Stratus Sphere to use all mana

[fathom girder]

Ohh no no

[thorny glacier]

oh wait stratus sphere is making a comeback?

[dull heart]

Chaos Stone also stops Mana regeneration from happening when using any weapon regardless of class or Mana consumption

[thorny glacier]

heck yea if so

[dull heart]

yes

And actually good this time

[thorny glacier]

fantastic

[lapis oak]

classless weapon

[thorny glacier]

it’s the coolest removed weapon at the moment, just why exactly it was removed?

[dull heart]

It sucked

[lapis oak]

because it sucks

[thorny glacier]

;(oh

[dull heart]

Gameplay wise it just

was not good at all

[lapis oak]

all it has for was aura and hype moment when you just put your hands on it

then it all turned glorpshit

[thorny glacier]

glad it’ll be back

[dull heart]

Stratus Sphere might be a really good item now

But in a good way

(really good as in meta)

[thorny glacier]

clear🫡

[dull heart]

It's also classless now

[thorny glacier]

any reason as to why? or was it like this before?

[dull heart]

Because it works better as a classless support

[pulsar cobalt]

it interacts with the gimmick of the stratus weapons

[thorny glacier]

and classless category is pretty lacklustre

makes sense

[dull heart]

All Stratus items use a resource called Starbursts

They can all both generate and consume it in various ways

[thorny glacier]

i see that stratus content will play a big role in astral infection rework. and i’m confident starbursts content will only include new weaponry and not much else

[native thistle]

mage content, we are so back

[thorny glacier]

someone should kidnap umamusume devs and force them to add elementals to their game

[terse dew]

huge

[vivid salmon]

Do you guys think I will have enough time to do a playthrough before SSO update?

[thorny glacier]

absolutely

[valid crypt]

The current knowledge on the update is hopefully it releases this year

[thorny glacier]

you can probably beat the game with all classes on all difficulties before that happens

[iron dew]

literally coolest thing ever

[azure oak]

went over everything added and considered "reworked" in 1.5.1 or after

[pulsar cobalt]

now compare it to current sso logs

[thorny glacier]

more than half of this will be marked in green when sso drops

[mystic eagle]

I hope not

[valid crypt]

Why not

[mystic eagle]

I don't want SSO to release in 2027

[late eagle]

What those in blue mean?

[azure oak]

added in or after 1.5.1

[dull heart]

what

Stratus doesn't really have anything to do with Astral Infection

[hushed hazel]

isn't stratus just like

[dull heart]

also there's only one new item relating to starburst being added, which is Stratus Sphere

[hushed hazel]

sentinels materials

[dull heart]

no

[hushed hazel]

i forgort

[dull heart]

It's exodium, lumenyl, ruinous souls

[thorny glacier]

yeah lol, just wanted to know if my speculations were correct

[azure oak]

ok so these are all the items added or reworked in 1.5.1 or after

and these are all of the items currently considered reworked in changelogs

[pulsar cobalt]

wild

[boreal edge]

Blackness

[pulsar cobalt]

also yea blacking out every other item makes it kinda hard to tell the scale of it

[azure oak]

ok so image 1

and image 2

[pulsar cobalt]

now combine the images,,

[azure oak]

aaaaaa

[pulsar cobalt]

thank you

now add deleted in sso into that image

[azure oak]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[hushed hazel]

now rearrange the parts into a silly stick figure

[azure oak]

no

[cunning sequoia]

now make it play bad apple

[thorny glacier]

madness

[fringe quiver]

now play doom on it

[pulsar cobalt]

you mixed up the 2nd and third panels

[analog helm]

,' ,|,' _'

[thorny glacier]

wha…….

[analog helm]

i forgot that the lines varied in hight

whoopsies

[wooden blade]

i want to be as hyperfixated on studies as you are with calamity spoilers i swear

[cerulean plinth]

should i be aware of my actions?

im playing masochist mode calamity + wrath of the gods/catalyst/hunt of the old god

so what are any tips for the wall of flesh?

[fringe quiver]

#calamity-addon-talk

[brave star]

Ae, a, alpha,

[azure oak]

autism brained compels me to compile information

[brave star]

Calamity spoilers should be a way to get a calamity diploma from college

[azure oak]

it's not even just calamity spoilers

in lab we had to learn how to properly tally everything in stock, and unsurpisingly i was the fastest individual

[summer shore]

#404776393117925376 message
Follow up

I was going to post it same day but uhh delays haha

[azure oak]

very cool dragon of death user altraxia

[summer shore]

it's not actually #him it's just ravager pretending to be him

[azure oak]

neat

[lapis oak]

vas?

Ataraxia Cal dev?

[cerulean plinth]

mb :c

[fringe quiver]

naru you have to lock in...

[summer shore]

In both of our dreams

[summer shore]

He's so cooked

it's okay though he has #aura

[misty monolith]

wait so the plan is to make cal clone human eventually right

[summer shore]

yes

[misty monolith]

yippee ki yay

[real axle]

infernum moment

[misty monolith]

i love the infernum sprite

yea

i really want something similar because it’s so pretty but also like

disheveled

[lapis oak]

Tringle said he want to make Cal Clone controlling a Mech if I remember correctly

[misty monolith]

woah...

[lapis oak]

just an idea

[analog helm]

draedon gave her an xbox controller and told her to go nuts

[dry whale]

isnt that current calclone..

girl inside an eye rock mech or something

[fringe quiver]

I think the triangle idea was the mech and calclone being separate entities

More of a "sibling" dynamic than anything, the mech would be an allegory for the real cal's siblings

[lean relic]

😭

[calm ingot]

I audibly laughed at this

[shell sapphire]

[proud wind]

how spoilerous

[brave star]

What happens if the home is destroyed

Do we put her in a new air conditioning tunnel?

[analog helm]

she does an ash_baby.png after seeing the sun and turns into ashes of calamity

[lapis oak]

ash baby best baby

[celest bobcat]

considering she’s effectively on life support I wouldn’t be surprised

[brave star]

The first letter of the alphabet which is known as “A”

[fringe quiver]

Dunno if that's still true

Pretty sure she's like, physically completely fine

She's just insane

Her being on like liffe support inside of a machine was old lore stuff, pretty sure

[celest bobcat]

I see

[arctic patrol]

what a colorful chat

[tropic ermine]

ah yes Calam Hussein

[mystic eagle]

Don't ask

Do not ask why it looks like that

[fathom girder]

Surely

[left sequoia]

question is the SSO going to change / add new lore to the game ????

[lapis oak]

yes

[tropic ermine]

ofc

[fathom girder]

Reb's been busy with lore pretty sure

[dry whale]

this is canon

[dry whale]

add lore yea

no update will change it though

only add more to it

[analog helm]

welcome back jpg brothers

[dense sundial]

Some update might, given a lot of Calamity lore is essentially a retroactive coverup for Old Fabsolian Things

Like I would expect OD replacement update to change the lore somewhat for Bayle the Dread

[valid crypt]

We know the good part of tyrant that enslaves and abuses children is staying iirc

[valid crypt]

Who the fuck is bayle the dread btw

[calm ingot]

elden ring boss

what it has to do with calamity i have no clue

[rose laurel]

A lot of shit doesn't have to be changed

Like

I don't think anything has

[dusty tinsel]

Old duke is obviously becoming an Elden ring boss

[dense sundial]

Major boss from Elden Ring DLC and the literal coolest thing ever

[arctic cliff]

Also hes the dragon that Igon really hates

Just fought the dude a few weeks ago, and I was thinking placidusax was the coolest thing ever…

[dry whale]

I'm pretty sure the lore wont change

OD lore is fine, and it would work pretty well with what's going to come me thinks

[dusk bronze]

the current lore is very much not fine

the devs have explicitly stated he's being un-fishroned

[dry whale]

I know

[dusk bronze]

????

[pulsar cobalt]

yea and that will be all the changes he will get

[dry whale]

he isnt changing his lore

[pulsar cobalt]

literally everything about him being evil and awful is dev statements, which wont be changes, but additions

[dry whale]

just a fight rework and redesign

[dusk bronze]

if you say so

[dense sundial]

Things Bayle and the Fish of Theseus have in common:

• “Wyvern” body form (two wings, two legs, long tail)
• Cunning, dastardly, and thoroughly evil
• Legendary for surviving some legendary battle(s), from which they are grizzled and beaten up
• Some people and weapons are dedicated specifically to killing them

[lapis oak]

Dragon Hunter set theme will go crazy

[dry whale]

cant believe elden ring copies calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

did we get a confirmation if old duke theseus is keeping the wyvern look?

[dense sundial]

:idk

[lapis oak]

find out with 5 years of backread

[stuck kite]

theseus is pretty old

[calm ingot]

I had no idea old duke was getting a rework tbh

Must have skimmed past it

[dense sundial]

Re-everything

[calm ingot]

So it’s getting the astrageldon treatment

Deserved honestly

Can’t wait for a mod to come out in 2029 that adds old duke back but as a good boss

[dense sundial]

I think you’re looking for Fargo’s Souls DLC

[analog helm]

the oldukalyst

[calm ingot]

I said good boss

[dense sundial]

Okay then

[lapis oak]

Duke of Old

[arctic cliff]

Dukalyst

Love that

[main pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/qe-gif-26997092

[wooden blade]

Fargo's dlc is the only addon that was able to make a good old duke fight now that i think abt it

The og fight is ass, the infernum fight is worse, but i actually had fun with the fargo's one

[humble plover]

hellooo, ive heard of a big update coming, just wanted to know if someone knows anything? or where could i learn about it

[strong isle]

Hello! There should be a doc in the pins detailing upcoming content

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NpAT_-mky8XjOf6HA5lOw3kNHjwwCSuaLwSlFU1ggB4/edit?usp=sharing

[lapis oak]

Gilded Proboscis and Stratus set are missing from the doc

also Regenator

@vivid hemlock

[vivid hemlock]

[lapis oak]

[dusk bronze]

note that not everything in the doc will be in the update

[humble plover]

nice

[hazy pine]

what is the dragon aerie
like in terms of landscape

[pseudo vector]

i honestly couldn’t tell you as of now

[dusk bronze]

bigass sky island according to draedon

no other public info

[hazy pine]

ah

[pseudo vector]

pretty much

[hazy pine]

alright then i'll just try to work with a temple or smth at the grave

[dusk bronze]

might have a mountain, given how yharim says the grave of light is at the "summit"

[hazy pine]

yea

[strong isle]

There are some images pinned in the depths of the #endgame-biomes channel in Caldev

It's quite beautiful

Though the images don't really paint a full picture

[lapis oak]

?

[calm ingot]

Saying this is like dangling a piece of meat in front of a pack of starving dogs

[late eagle]

Hey hey hey

[calm ingot]

Now I want to see

[mystic eagle]

Joining Caldev to see rn

[late eagle]

You can't say that and don't give the images to us

[strong isle]

I HATE THIS MOUSE GRAHHHH

[lapis oak]

tssk tssk tssk

we saw it

[mystic eagle]

Repost it

[hazy pine]

uhh what would the hypothetical way to get to the dragon aerie be
i'm writing an au for cal

[lapis oak]

it's over for you

[strong isle]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-throw-kiss-magic-thunder-gif-11026228879857242256

[mystic eagle]

By airplane

[dusk bronze]

✅

[strong isle]

Filled with determination, you stab into the earth with an Auric Knife

[hazy pine]

yeah sure whatever

works for me

[strong isle]

Don't worry, folks

You might get an idea of what the Aerie could look like earlier than you might expect

[mystic eagle]

That's kind of bland

[mystic eagle]

Oh I got an idea

[dusk bronze]

👀 is it related to the yharon resprite

[mystic eagle]

Yharim will be seen in the Aerie

[hazy pine]

where should i start the story for the sake of pacing, pre hm hm or post ml

[strong isle]

Wdym?

[hazy pine]

like i said im writing an au of cal w/some characters of mine and i dont know where to start for the sake of pacing

it also includes wrath of the gods because i like the mod ecks dee

[lyric trellis]

Yharim knight....

[mystic eagle]

Yharim is Shadow confirmed!?

[hazy pine]

i'm the coolest...

[strong isle]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sip-frieren-sipping-tea-book-gif-1603575268151458399

[strong isle]

It really depends on what you wanna write, really
There's no set "best thing"

Also, don't worry too much about how the Aerie looks officially, it's always great to see fan interpretations

[hazy pine]

i mean the idea i have for the story takes place mostly after ml soo

[strong isle]

Well, there you go

[dusk bronze]

i'd do pre cultist or something then

[hazy pine]

though since one of them (the leader) dies very early it might be underwhelming

i'll have to cram in stuff for them

[strong isle]

Developing stuff officially is not all that different from developing stuff as a fan
The only real difference is that I can create/suggest things for official use

[hazy pine]

That could work

[strong isle]

It still feels as personal as an unofficial creative process

[mystic eagle]

Fans can also do that, just in a more complicated way

[strong isle]

Yeah, basically

[mystic eagle]

I just remembered how I changed the mod's description once

[strong isle]

I am part of a Calamity-themed roleplay and my two characters there are continuations of things I made for the base mod that I wouldn't be able to explore to such length there

[dusk bronze]

whar

[strong isle]

I snuck an Ocram reference into the mod under everyone's noses

[lapis oak]

[mystic eagle]

Basically, I made 2 suggestions which were updating the description to fit current stats and to include VCMM on it. For the stats one, Ozz himself asked me to provide the stats.

[celest bobcat]

surely this is the pipeline towards adding ocram into calamity /j

[mystic eagle]

Idk why a dev didn't do it but sure

[dusk bronze]

ohh right i rember that

[strong isle]

I was initially a console player so I am fairly familiar with Ocram actually

[mystic eagle]

Lepus will be added first

[strong isle]

It sure was a boss

[celest bobcat]

definitely the eye of cthulhu reskin of all time

[strong isle]

There are also things I intentionally won't explore in the mod, like the Children of Lethe

Worldbuilding can benefit a lot from having obscurity and mystery
Ends that aren't really loose, but you can't see their full extent

A world that is entirely explained is a small and often uninteresting one

[dusk bronze]

yeah
there must be intrigue

[pearl sentinel]

ocram COULD be cool trust me

[fathom girder]

ah yes, the dark souls approach

y'know, miyazaki only has the lore be so vague because it reminds him of when he couldn't read books properly as a child

[dense sundial]

the who what

[strong isle]

:)

[dense sundial]

now why did i see "intentionally won't explore" and then ask anyway

[hazy pine]

how do i go about setting up yharim as a threat while still prioritizing the aoe

[arctic cliff]

second time! they both have falling stars that are related to magic!

and they even sometimes have monstrously mutated falling stars that cause great destruction on the planets they hit

[dusky void]

hive mind is kinda like ocram if you think about

[celest bobcat]

thats true

[dull heart]

I should say things like this in cst more often

[lyric trellis]

Yharim is coming in 6 years omg..,,

[orchid finch]

If you want to have all the cmt gremlins gnawing on your bones, sure

[dusk bronze]

i should throw you in a vat of acid

[halcyon seal]

damn he’s got endurance

[fathom girder]

bruh

[dull heart]

if you do then the most peak item ever to grace calamity will never see the light of day

it's also probably stuck in sprite hell for eternity

[fathom girder]

is it murasama rework

[dull heart]

no

better

[fathom girder]

Alright

Into the vat you go then

[dull heart]

nope

it's better

[white aurora]

murasama is being removed?

[fathom girder]

I heavily

doubt that

[white aurora]

[fathom girder]

Like I know you cook

but how can you beat murasama

[hasty tangle]

one can dream

[hasty tangle]

sadly that would only cause calamity overhaul to skyrocket in popularity (it would add it back without a doubt)

[fathom girder]

uh huh

[dull heart]

what

[fathom girder]

color me intrigued

I thought that was like, giving him a gun in the fight lmao

not giving him a minigun as a drop

[dull heart]

neither of those is correct

[fathom girder]

[arctic cliff]

i should send a concerned email to Konami to threaten copyright to the Calamity Team over the Murasama. Then there's no stopping the de-Muramasa-ing.

/s

[hasty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-scott-the-woz-ikea-waffle-iron-genius-waffle-iron-gif-22093637

[halcyon seal]

He’s strapped now

I’m assuming minigun in this context means you gave him a really tiny gun in his claws

[pearl sentinel]

this will never not be hilarious to me because i cannot fathom what the intention is

[arctic cliff]

i think the genius part is sarcastically making fun of the person who decided to try to turn gummies into a waffle

like, wow genius, you really thought this through?

GP is essentially saying that sarcastically to my extremely dumb idea

[calm ingot]

What’s so special about it?

It’s just a red sword

That happens to be from another game

[dusk bronze]

because it's peak

duh

[arctic cliff]

It's not just another game.

It is, apparently, peak.

Therefore, sword from peak game is also peak.

Same applies to

say

[calm ingot]

There’s like a hundred references to mgr in cal already

[arctic cliff]

(okay yamato looks like a generic katana so im just gonna instead use this as an example)

[hasty tangle]

the intent was probably to make a gummy waffle

byeah i love this gif as a way of saying "that's a really stupid idea"

[pearl sentinel]

yeah but its filmed like a 5 Minute craftian channel so like

did they do this with no previous testing ???

😭

[arctic cliff]

the real problem is

"Did you seriously not think this through?"

"Did you seriously believe that this method would give you an actual gummy waffle?"

probably in this case, GP means "Do you seriously believe this would in fact do what you exactly want?"

or its just because the gif is really fucking funny

[hasty tangle]

i think theres probably a channel out there that makes parodies of it

[pearl sentinel]

ik what gp means when he sends the gif

[hasty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-hacks-useless-spoon-spoon-hammer-spoon-gif-15435632

[pearl sentinel]

it just kills me every time

[hasty tangle]

cuz this gif exists too

[pearl sentinel]

LOL

idk i wouldnt be surprised if this was a real 5 minute crafts

[arctic cliff]

this is so monumentally stupid beyond belief, that i will avoid the destruction of iq in this chat by distracting you with a funny CDMusic incident

[summer shore]

All patreon money for the next 405 years will be spent paying for the lawsuit

[frigid mulch]

draedon lifespan years?

[dull heart]

No

No it doesn't

[dusk bronze]

does it have a new attack that could be described as minigun-like?

[dull heart]

I said it was an item before

[dusk bronze]

i can't read i'm a calamity fan

but didn't you say it's not a weapon that drops from dragonfolly?

[dull heart]

correct

[dusk bronze]

[dull heart]

it is an item and it does not drop from folly

and minigun is very literal it's not a metaphor

it's not a mini gun or a minigun-like thing

[dusk bronze]

is it crafted with effulgent feathers? that's the only way for it to still be dragonfolly themed

[dull heart]

Yes

but the entire commit message is very much exactly what happened

I gave Dragonfolly a minigun

[dusk bronze]

ohh ok this makes sense now

[dull heart]

does it?

are you sure

[fringe quiver]

are you shore

[dull heart]

There's actually been enough leaked from prior conversations here about this topic

that someone could probably put it together

[pearl sentinel]

pretty shore. I threw a fishing pole into the bermuda triangle.

[dull heart]

however that would involve seeing one of three very specific things I said / triangle said

that would also have to be connected to this

[boreal edge]

The beach that makes you old

[summer shore]

Dragonfolly gets kingsbane

[dull heart]

that is actually

you'd be surprised

not wrong

visually the placeholder is literally folly holding kingsbane

[dusk bronze]

wait so is dragonfolly (the boss) holding a gun or not???????

my brain is melting it's oozing out my shoes rn

[dull heart]

elaborate what you mean by Dragonfolly (the boss)

like is folly holding a gun in the fight?

[dusk bronze]

[dull heart]

genuinely the answer to the question depends on what you mean by that

[stuck kite]

think about it

[late eagle]

It's a weapon of folly holding a minigun

If it's not that, at least it would be very funny if it were

[buoyant pulsar]

like the swarmer???

i've always liked how the dragonfolly mount handles like an attack helicopter

[white aurora]

swarmer upgrade

:3

[late eagle]

Yeah

Folly swarmer

[white aurora]

murderswarm

real

[late eagle]

Omg true

[stuck kite]

its like a...

draconic swarmer

[buoyant pulsar]

so like this?

[late eagle]

Exactly

Best weapon imo

[white aurora]

did you just make that

lul

[buoyant pulsar]

so like this?

[dull heart]

Not like a draconic swarmer

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah, wasn't too hard

[dull heart]

The Draconic Swarmer

[late eagle]

[buoyant pulsar]

is that like

its name

word for word

[buoyant pulsar]

yo doze can i get a percentage of how accurate this is

[late eagle]

Well apparently this is like the placeholder of the item

[dull heart]

well

The item may not actually happen

[buoyant pulsar]

ik i didn't mean like exactly how it looks, i just meant vaguely

[dull heart]

unfortunately

[buoyant pulsar]

aww

[late eagle]

Oh don't say this😢

NOOO

My folly swarmer bruh😭

[dull heart]

sprite hell + some people don't want it in dev