#calamity-update-talk

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misty monolith
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i would be super happy with resprites tbh

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i just like the looks

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the effects don’t matter as much to me

misty wren
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if there are resprites to vanilla stuff they should go into a texture pack

dusty tinsel
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triangle has a texturepack that re-sprites metal armors i am not sure if it goes up to cobalt and what not

misty wren
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for example something like triangles armory reforged or ctp

cobalt wharf
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i love the contrarian channel

misty wren
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well specifically the hardmode version

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i remember seeing adamantite armor in them

dusty tinsel
misty monolith
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thats so ass

dusty tinsel
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mega mind armor

misty wren
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by pre hardmode vanilla standards its fine

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but its also a sprite from release

halcyon seal
dusty tinsel
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ancient necro helmet is also peak

misty wren
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i wont say regular cobalt looks great but i also wont lie to myself and say ancient cobalt has a good sprite

halcyon seal
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Best ancient armor is gold helmet right

misty monolith
dusty tinsel
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here is the image from the steam page

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for example

misty wren
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ok i was wrong triangles armory reforged doesnt have the hardmode stuff yet

dusty tinsel
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not all of them i think

misty monolith
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thank you im installing this when i get home

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also what is ctp

dusty tinsel
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calamity texture pack

distant raft
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calamity taddon palk

misty monolith
dusty tinsel
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it goes up to hellstone

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at least for now

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don't know if triangle will be doing more

misty monolith
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can someone send that as well please

misty wren
misty monolith
distant raft
dusty tinsel
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drake

strange lagoon
misty monolith
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is this necro armour

image.png
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i love this shit so much

dusty tinsel
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i think so

misty wren
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yeah

misty monolith
misty wren
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it would be necro

misty monolith
dusty tinsel
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here is drake and then some guy who no one knows in that gif turned emoji

agile latch
dusty tinsel
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we summoned triangle

misty monolith
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dude i love these so fucking much it makes me angry

misty wren
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awesomeness aggression

dusty tinsel
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are you planning to do the hardmode ore ones as well eventually triangle?

misty monolith
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what are the top right ones in classes

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both of those are just

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ARHGHFSGHHFDJNJSGFD

misty wren
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top right is mage

dusty tinsel
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probably jungle armor and uh

vivid hemlock
misty monolith
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the jungle armour is actually so fucking pretty

misty wren
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jungle and im blanking on the other

dusty tinsel
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what mage armor is ice related lol

agile latch
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as you can see with some of them not having a plume, one being helmetless and other stuff, these are super wip. Also considering the new plans for how each will work and their thematics , i problably will do a jand restart on auric armor resprite once sunken sea update is released

agile latch
dusty tinsel
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isn't the mage one getting a magical plume

agile latch
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just been in artblock hell this year, but once its done i will go back to updating the pack

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and also doing the release of the hm one

misty monolith
dusty tinsel
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what is the blue mage armor beside jungle?

misty monolith
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i wanna see what youve got for that so bad

dusty tinsel
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is that like meteorite lol

misty monolith
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nah

misty wren
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meteorite is next to hellstone

dusty tinsel
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oh meteorite is beside hellstone

agile latch
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(which is the jungle alt set)

north island
misty monolith
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oooooohhhh

dusty tinsel
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oh i am surprised that isn't in the ancient category lol

agile latch
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technically it should be on the ancient part, but its also a class armor since mage

misty wren
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i thought ancient cobalt would be in the ancient section ngl i just forgot about it not being there

agile latch
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hognar why did i place pumpkin and gladiator on classes

misty monolith
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anyway this is like

agile latch
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i dont remember..

misty monolith
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genuienly outstanding

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its crazy how i love all of these so much

dusty tinsel
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triangle secretly revealing the release of a new class

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pumpkin gladiator

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the gladkin class

distant raft
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surely the pumpkin fans will erupt in rapturous glee about this

misty monolith
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i pray for the hardmode metal armours prayja

vivid hemlock
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uh here are most of the ones triangle posted

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misty monolith
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it hurts how pretty these are

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is there a discord for this

vivid hemlock
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nope

agile latch
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adamantite and cobalt.. horrified

misty monolith
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theyre so cool man

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like

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ugh

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it hurts that i cant just

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HAVE IT

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om nom nom

dusty tinsel
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The first titanium one looks like a plague doctor who decided to gear up for war instead of healing people

agile latch
misty monolith
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i hope you take as much time as you need

viral merlin
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Triangle locked up forever for making sprites so good

buoyant pulsar
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or wait

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malenia

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i always mix them up

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ykwim

misty monolith
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omg it is

arctic cliff
misty monolith
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why cant i find triangles reforged armory on the workshop bibi

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nvm i got it

fringe quiver
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meteor and molten on basic ores.... tragic

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these go hard doe..

lost heron
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Nooo no bloodflare summoner armor i'll never forgetchaboohoo

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(it was a mediocre armor tho, i admit, but i'd personally always wanted it to be jist rebalanced and given some cool gimmick)

silk terrace
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wait the auric armour with the radahn ass hair is for summoner?

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shit I thought it was for melee

rich ginkgo
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naw

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the red pineapple plume is summoner

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ranger is hammerhead shark

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rogue is gojo

silk terrace
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ranger's helmet look like Hoopa Unbound to me tbh

rich ginkgo
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wait how did i just notice this

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all the auric armors have different chestplates too not just helmets

azure oak
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good morning i don't think i slept at all tonight

rich ginkgo
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no more universal auric chestplate?? 😢

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i mean not that it matters unless ur switching classes post yharon

azure oak
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chestplate design changes based on the helmet iirc

rich ginkgo
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oh neat

hazy pine
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pumpkign

jaunty sequoia
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Will boss rush actually be required to fight yharim?

azure oak
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no

silk terrace
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Why would it be

jaunty sequoia
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So what will the use of the rock be?

silk terrace
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Eat it

azure oak
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it's a trophy

jaunty sequoia
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So how will we contact yharim?

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Draedon?

silk terrace
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Send him a text message fr

azure oak
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we go to the dragon's aerie after we beat both the exo mechs & calamitas

cinder hearth
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We will go to the dragon aerie, a subworld, and fight him there

calm ingot
jaunty sequoia
silk terrace
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Epic fail

jaunty sequoia
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Damn flowdrei must’ve changed their username

rich ginkgo
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because auric

azure oak
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future content doc says after the 2 penultimate bosses, but who knows this stuff is a very long time away

rich ginkgo
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doesnt it just say we fight him after exos and cal

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not we gain access to the aerie after exos and cal

azure oak
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"But we do know that it will be a massive sky island sub-world unlocked after the 2 penultimate bosses are defeated"

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but again, this is years away

lean relic
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so it is sky island i knew it
theres a reason why i added small floating island thing at top left in this image lol
#lore-discussion message

cinder hearth
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And he tells you it's a big sky island that nobody can locate

azure oak
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ye he says it's a sky island

rich ginkgo
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wasnt it said draedon knows absolute batshit about it

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in lore doc

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he only theorized it to be a pocket dimension

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i dont remember the sky island bit

azure oak
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he doesnt know much but he knows it's a big ksy island

rich ginkgo
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interesting

azure oak
stuck kite
azure oak
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calamity mod

pseudo vector
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good morning calamity spoiler talk

azure oak
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mediocre morning for me

granite smelt
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evening CDmusic

azure oak
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but good morning

cinder hearth
pseudo vector
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would it be a bad idea to say that i think T2E might be turning out better than T4 did

azure oak
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T2E being better than is good cause T4 is already a banger

eternal robin
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what does the e mean

cinder hearth
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Encore

pseudo vector
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encore

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i’ve been working on T2E here and there since i finished T1E

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got like 2 minutes of it written

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and i wrote a guitar solo yesterday

stuck kite
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the sequel

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lean relic
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legendary mode

lyric trellis
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Malice

lean relic
stuck kite
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the fate of what that last difficulty will be called is tbd

azure oak
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calamity mode clueless

stuck kite
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fire writing

rich ginkgo
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absolute cinema

granite shadow
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resplendent could be a cool name

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it kinda relates to the naming conventions of both difficulties

cinder hearth
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Extinction

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Sounds cool

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Is the step beyond death

hushed hazel
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call it redeath to go with revengeance and with legendary being more of a silly thing

cinder hearth
lofty iris
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wonder if it's possibly to have Arsenal armor in next update

placid wadi
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which comes in no one knows how many months

hushed hazel
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yes that would indeed be next update well observed

valid crypt
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Only getting the first one of the armours iirc

placid wadi
azure oak
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no, next update

summer shore
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Sunken sea before fraud before silksong

cinder hearth
summer shore
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this implies the straight indie videogame community won't go crazy

spark kiln
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The indie videogame community is gonna go crazy when they all release at the same time

dense marsh
lapis oak
summer shore
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This is not true I care about all those

cinder hearth
lapis oak
summer shore
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Yes I'm straight

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Surprise

dense marsh
plush carbon
summer shore
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Smh

dense marsh
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I'm blind sorry

dense marsh
hard hearth
lapis oak
summer shore
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polishes kiri into fine dust

hard hearth
lapis oak
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😭

dense marsh
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Too bad I can't add reactions because I'm a no role

hard hearth
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you can react if someone already added it

analog helm
dense marsh
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Oh I know, just saying I can't do it myself

summer shore
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unforgivable

analog helm
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and sand

cinder hearth
dense marsh
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I'm a fish person

analog helm
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im a real fisher

summer shore
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drowns you in air

cinder hearth
summer shore
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🎣

analog helm
dense marsh
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Oh, I've been caught

cinder hearth
dense marsh
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Why are we talking about fish, this is the spoiler channel

cinder hearth
hard hearth
dense marsh
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Well I'm a fish person

dense marsh
hard hearth
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myself, dun and rob cannot guarantee your safety

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😨

dense marsh
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Who's Rob

hard hearth
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former moderator in this server

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good friend of mine

mystic eagle
dense marsh
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I can guarantee a safe environment for myself, don't worry

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There's no water

placid wadi
dense marsh
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So I can't really breathe and stuff

dense marsh
hard hearth
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if this was gentalk id have already pinged both of them to meme around

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alas

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very spoilerous talk

dense marsh
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I mean, this is about fish

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And SSO has a lot of fish

hard hearth
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sso has code therefore every video game can be talked because it also contains code..

dense marsh
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That's..so true

placid wadi
hard hearth
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hmm

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bit of a stretch but i can see it

dense marsh
cinder hearth
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We can be talked about because we contain water, which as we know, is sunken sea related

hard hearth
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sarcastic quote

dense marsh
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And the Sunken Sea is like 90% water

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Cause yk, tiles and other stuff

summer shore
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The sunken sea is a big soup

hard hearth
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sunken sea defo less than 90% water

dense marsh
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eater

hard hearth
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i edited before you typed that

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therefore thats invalid

dense marsh
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Eater of Souls

hard hearth
mystic eagle
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We're 60% hydrogen atoms

hard hearth
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60% hydrogen 70% water

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ur so right

real axle
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so much hydrogen

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analog helm
dense marsh
dense marsh
cinder hearth
real axle
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hydrogenmaxxing

dense marsh
cinder hearth
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Wait no I meant ^27 not 30

placid wadi
lapis oak
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Tastes horrible

cinder hearth
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Therefore

We are meatloaf

dense marsh
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I'm cotton candy then

placid wadi
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crusty on outside and full of soup inside

dense marsh
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You mean bread in the form of a bowl

placid wadi
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yes

dense marsh
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And soup poured inside

placid wadi
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you get a bread and get rid of soft inside

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and you pour soup in

real axle
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blood❌
tomato soup✅

dense marsh
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Quite popular in my country

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God this is the most bullshit conversation in the spoiler talk channel

placid wadi
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what are we supposed to discuss if no SSO yet?

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and no new spoilers

dense marsh
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Ah yeah, true

real axle
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this is definitely spoiler content

dense marsh
mystic eagle
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This probably

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It's the newest spoiler

native thistle
dense marsh
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New spoiler, I'm out

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Just wanted to talk about fish

native thistle
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I love talking about 🐟

placid wadi
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would love to see some older ones

analog helm
lapis oak
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@vivid hemlock Regenator rework is missing in the doc

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also Gilded Proboscis

lofty leaf
lean relic
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lets see hmm
upcoming theme is:

  • Boss Rush Tier 5
  • Boss Rush Tier 2-3 Encore
  • Acid Rain Tier 1-3
  • Exo Mechs
  • Cnidrion
  • Giant Clam
  • Great Sand Shark
inner thunder
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wow giant clam

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sand shark needs a rework

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the boss

hard hearth
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regular sand shark rework

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plays his theme everytime it spawns

frail owl
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hi there john salamence

hard hearth
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wires.

frail owl
hard hearth
high folio
white aurora
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oh deer

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wawa

lofty leaf
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l.m.a.o.

mystic eagle
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wtf

hasty tangle
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damn, another hijacked account

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how tragic

mystic eagle
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Why is the tinyurl link to VCMM's to do page not whitelisted 😭

lofty leaf
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damn i missed something epic!

mystic eagle
hushed hazel
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https://tinyurl.com/vcmm-to-do

Google Docs
Vanilla Calamity Mod Music Plans

Music Plans The list below contains all the planned music for Vanilla Calamity Mod Music. Color Legend Black/White - Song not started Green - Song started Lime - Song paused Cyan - Song done, video not started Purple - Song done, video started Blue - Song released Orange - Song being remastered ...

neat oxide
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the hellborn rework in spoilers hasnt dropped yet right

spark kiln
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hasnt

neat oxide
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damn

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alright

jagged copper
vivid hemlock
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anyways im taking your left lung

lapis oak
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😭 ???

vestal osprey
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Do we know what the rework is gonna be?

stuck kite
lapis oak
vestal osprey
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Is thay different then what it is now? I forgor

jagged copper
vivid hemlock
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no its just a name for legendary + death

pulsar cobalt
vivid hemlock
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it wont be a main difficulty like last time

charred merlin
jagged copper
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feels a lot more integrated

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like how Rev and Death is now

hexed basalt
dull heart
lapis oak
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saving calamity

lean relic
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lol what

brittle light
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what teh hell

trim kelp
# lapis oak

Special life regen not being negated by omega blue?

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Would immensly buff this armor

dull heart
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I don't think you'd wanna use that with Omega Blue

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you lose the entire damage boost gimmick

trim kelp
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Special regen rate depends on?

trim kelp
dull heart
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I think so

trim kelp
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If not it would be quite too OP

dull heart
trim kelp
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Could you make sure if the damage boost is disabled on a omega blue setup that features regen accs like radiance?

lyric trellis
dusk bronze
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Hitler alive

lament pumice
# lapis oak

Never used this item, although it is too strong for a glass cannon

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Damn, is it worth waiting for the curses to improve?

dusk bronze
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what curses

lament pumice
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Types of spells from Calamitas

dusk bronze
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oh enchantments

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idk if they're getting reworked anytime soon

lament pumice
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And items with buffs

halcyon seal
# stuck kite

Oh shit does this mean rev/death are gonna display in the vanilla difficulty thing?

lapis oak
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no that not it

lament pumice
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?

pulsar cobalt
lapis oak
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it's the opposite, vanilla difficulties are gonna be displayed in Cal's difficulty UI to choose from

pulsar cobalt
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theyre talking about the world select screen

lapis oak
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what?

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that's already ingame

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wires ?

pulsar cobalt
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yea it is

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theyre just a bit tupid,,,

lapis oak
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buh

halcyon seal
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I’m just asking if they’re gonna be like “expert + death” where expert would normally be

pulsar cobalt
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but

halcyon seal
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It does????

pulsar cobalt
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yes

lapis oak
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yes

halcyon seal
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I swear I’ve never seen this before

pulsar cobalt
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thats getting removed eventually (maybe next update i dont remember) since death will be master exclusive

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and rev wont be togglable on master

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(itll just be called death instead)

halcyon seal
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Oh rev changes are just being turned to base expert changes?

pulsar cobalt
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no

halcyon seal
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Oh ok

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So master is forced rev

pulsar cobalt
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no

halcyon seal
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I feel like I’m getting dumber with each message I send I’m gonna be real

pulsar cobalt
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with emode and masochist

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yeah that

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togglable on expert and master worlds, different names for both

halcyon seal
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Right ok that makes sense

jagged copper
dull heart
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the way calamity difficulty now work is that it's basically Vanilla Difficulty's Calamity Mode

hard copper
# lapis oak

Sounds cool, I wonder how it’ll work with toxic heart.

dull heart
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you have Expert, and you have Expert's Calamity , Rev
Master, and Master's Calamity, Death
Legendary, and Legendary's Calamity, Malice

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Classic gets NOTHING

stuck kite
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classic gets chill moments

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and journey gets all of the above

jagged copper
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idk why that made me laugh a bit

trim kelp
# dull heart I don't think you'd wanna use that with Omega Blue

Well it could even make an armor like omega blue really tanky if paired with a dreadons heart (+48 defense)

Increased immunity frames, lifesteal feom omega blue, 8.5 HP/s special HP reg on omega blue and the heal from draedons heart..

It could make summoner really strong- radiance & chalice to stay in low HP range (also gets supported by rampart of deities), it would grant lots of bonus dmg to your summons to let them finish the job for you

It might be able to produce quite exotic builds

dull heart
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Drae Heart makes anything tanky

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Also it's being nerfed

lyric trellis
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Defense death

hexed basalt
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the death of defense

summer shore
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deathense

misty wren
gritty torrent
mystic eagle
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Malice the undying

summer shore
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Malice two: twice as malicious

celest bobcat
hard hearth
limber jackal
gritty torrent
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this new system is kinda confusing

molten grove
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better than the old system where the amount of difficulties was multiplied by 2-3

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malice is ftw + death

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(gfb also counts as ftw)

lyric trellis
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So glad seeds aren’t real

urban cloak
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I never lie...

cunning sequoia
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no.... malice can't be back...

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time to leave calamity mod forever

arctic patrol
lyric trellis
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Bountiful harvest difficulty chart still gives me a headache (and didn’t even include everything iirc)

molten grove
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for current, besides Legendary + Death and journey, every single one has new ai changes ..

rose laurel
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When you put it as that image you see how much of a nightmare the AI shit is

pseudo vector
lyric trellis
frail owl
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yay it's no longer cramped and convoluting to look at

pseudo vector
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also much less for us to maintain

pulsar cobalt
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🫗

molten grove
gritty torrent
# molten grove

The ones that are grayed out include no changes besides statbuffs, is that correct?

molten grove
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calamity no longer edits vanilla bosses in the greyed out difficulties

gritty torrent
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That's very nice actually

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Oh and one more thing, you'll be able to toggle all of those difficulties and whatnot right in the world?

molten grove
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you can now change to classic, expert, and master in your world

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you cant swap out the seed tho for those ones lol

gritty torrent
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Thanks :glumbsup:

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Okay i guess i just never put in any specific seeds because it will explode my laptop ultimatesmug

molten grove
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hey i specifically made deus produce less dust in gfb with bad pcs in mind..

stuck kite
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generous gfber

boreal edge
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Suffer

analog helm
azure oak
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add calamity

snow moth
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bravo

fathom girder
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here come the 500 parody messages

lyric trellis
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Reference to Calamity mod version 1.4.5.001

clear compass
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What if the next calamity April fools turned yharon into a giant chicken nugget

dull heart
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I think

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I am killing Judgment Ray

fathom girder
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is that the provi attack

dull heart
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no it's the eternal exchange state

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or well, maybe not killing Judgement Ray entirely but massively reworking it from an active attack into a psudeo ripper

lapis oak
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total annihilation

clear compass
hushed hazel
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she DIED 💔

lyric trellis
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It’s for Rev and it’s from nohitting every boss a few years ago, no longer obtainable

lapis oak
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it's the forbidden auric tier tag

lyric trellis
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Definitely

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Red Auric

clear compass
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Nohitting all? Geez

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yea I could never do that

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Im proud for only being Hit like 8 times during a scal fight in expert death already

left sequoia
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i wonder if there going to be a trailer for the update]

thorny glacier
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most definitely

hasty tangle
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im pretty sure its confirmed (?)

thorny glacier
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ts took way too much time to develop than it should have

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confirmed or not, it’s coming

hasty tangle
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confirmed that it is coming

thorny glacier
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yeah

fathom girder
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10 second trailer and it's just miracle boy

molten grove
thorny glacier
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miracle bug

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where is my fly catcher?

lapis oak
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that emote is terrible

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never show me again

mystic eagle
thorny glacier
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substance abuse

vivid hemlock
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drug boy

uneven condor
quiet skiff
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I want calamity to be challenging🥺

uneven condor
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suffering is fun calowo

thorny glacier
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nohit entire game then

sly sandal
compact tendon
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Man I miss malice mode, still to this day I have my malice mode for the worthy world.

mystic eagle
gleaming haven
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Malice mode was a really weird time for Calamity lol

halcyon seal
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Wasn’t malice guardians like almost impossible to nohit

dusk bronze
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malice exos wasn't even fucking tested in dev to see if it was beatable and fab went "looks good guys ship it out" 😭

lapis oak
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Malicious intent

halcyon seal
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I really hope that there’s an archive of all the release malice bosses somewhere out there on tmod

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Because god I want to fight them

left sequoia
hasty tangle
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at least like 2

dusk bronze
dusk bronze
left sequoia
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i herd its can take up to an hour and a half to cover

dusk bronze
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this ain't even everything

lapis oak
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Bountiful Harvest has 50+ weapons

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SSO as of now is over 100+

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Also don't forget a million acc reworks too

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Not just weapons

left sequoia
#

127 wepones

left sequoia
# dusk bronze

i wonder if thay are going to relace a chart for accesorys too

dusk bronze
#

this chart is fanmade

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by @azure oak

left sequoia
#

i wonder when the devle's devstaion will happen

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its the update name

dusk bronze
#

??????

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can you try to talk more coherently

lapis oak
#

Is this Engrisk or mentally ill moment

thorny glacier
pulsar cobalt
pseudo vector
pulsar cobalt
#

calamitys github lets u view the history

pseudo vector
#

not that many reworks

halcyon seal
lapis oak
#

U can play any version of Calamity

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But you gotta work for it

halcyon seal
#

Following in the footsteps of Bountiful Harvest, the thing in the name of the update is maybe the least notable thing about the update

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(I’m joking but holy SHIT how did we get to this point)

dull heart
#

Pathfinding

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That's how

left sequoia
thorny glacier
left sequoia
#

i was gone for 6 mothes

left sequoia
steep path
#

honestly if you wanna see what all went down, i'd type go to discord search and paste
in:general-talk during:2025-05-25
sort by old and scroll down a bit and you'll start seeing people talk about it
the tldr though is transphobia + nsfw server that had minors invited to it

dusk bronze
steep path
#

oh nice lmao
that day lives forever in our minds even 2 months later (how has it already been 2 months??)

pseudo vector
#

time flies when things are finally going well

viral merlin
#

If only that applied to SSO

pseudo vector
#

well
it's safe to say things are progressing more since fabsol's removal

viral merlin
#

Yeah that's true

pseudo vector
#

so chances are the update is coming out sooner than it would have if we were still until fabsolian leadership

halcyon seal
#

Genuine question has anything bad happened as a result of fabsol leaving? Aside from the stuff they did before being kicked out

still cobalt
#

Fabsol would have dalyed it to 2028

molten grove
#

i guess a buncha people are mad at us removing his boss enrages (?)

pseudo vector
#

things have been going better just overall, and the overall environment and vibes are much nicer, and things are actually happening lmao

thorny glacier
#

If fabsol stayed, sso would never happen and calamity would fall apart

molten grove
#

its quaint, no more getting yelled at for using capital letters to highlight words

pseudo vector
#

if fabsol stayed the mod would have died

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straight up

granite smelt
#

His shit boss design would keep releasing

pseudo vector
#

after all the stuff came out about him it was either he left or everyone else was leaving

spark kiln
#

thank god it came out 🙏

still cobalt
granite smelt
#

Fabsol was obsessed with ts

boreal edge
viral merlin
#

If fabsol stayed we'd get Malice mode 2

molten grove
molten grove
#

is just his master mode changes

viral merlin
#

And we'd get more of them

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And worse too

lyric trellis
#

It’s true

thorny glacier
lapis oak
#

Fabsol would change and destroy Xyk's Brothers like how he did it with Terry's Hive Mind

still cobalt
viral merlin
still cobalt
#

Idk i never actually played malice mode

viral merlin
still cobalt
#

Oh ok
Still better than master mode

viral merlin
#

That was before they were changed to be more obtainable

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They were like 1% or something before that

lapis oak
#

1% -> 10% -> Malice 100% -> back to 10%

viral merlin
#

Yeah

lyric trellis
rose laurel
lapis oak
rose laurel
#

Talking to Fab was just a fucking nightmare

molten grove
#

the kaguya fields...

lapis oak
#

how many time you had to change your hair for those

rose laurel
#

Uncountable

lapis oak
#

sounds about right

viral merlin
halcyon seal
#

Like I would’ve expected there to be at least a couple setbacks to development but, obviously good that there aren’t

molten grove
#

if you count "time spent reconsidering things" as a setback

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ig

rose laurel
#

Ok, being real, there were setbacks, but not in the sense of

raw falcon
#

Dude was just a liability at this point id imagine

rose laurel
#

"We'll have to do a bunch of extra shit"

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Moreso just

viral merlin
#

Fab secretly put a bomb in the games code that'll set off on SSO release and purge all the code

halcyon seal
dull heart
#

the setbacks are now we have total freedom as a team and need to figure out how to navigate that

rose laurel
#

"Hey, we can actually fix all of the bullshit he shoved into the Mod over the last decade"

lyric trellis
#

Bosses….

raw falcon
#

Question is hardmode rework staying

dull heart
#

yes absolutely

rose laurel
#

Yeah

viral merlin
halcyon seal
#

Honestly I love the hardmode ore rework

dull heart
#

hardmode rework is great

halcyon seal
#

It makes all the ores feel so much more distinct

raw falcon
#

Calamity should have a freedom leitmotif

rose laurel
#

As time went on I myself realized that

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Damn

halcyon seal
#

Calamity should have shadow the hedgehog

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Maybe then it’ll be good

rose laurel
#

Hardmode progression is dogshit?

dull heart
#

Calamity ft. America national anthem

rose laurel
#

And then when thinking about it

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Huh

halcyon seal
rose laurel
#

That's probably why no modern content Mod has any meaningful Hardmode content!

drowsy hatch
#

honestly really happy for youse. joined the discord just now to see how the updates are going, got into modded terraria really recently and was put off calamity by the previous bloat and stuff. i can't wait to see how the overhaul will look ^_^ again, super happy for your renewed freedom

raw falcon
#

Who did actually come up with hm rework?

rose laurel
#

But also just

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30 times easier to work with

raw falcon
#

Prehm feels like a complete experience

rose laurel
#

Because you aren't being constantly streamlined into "go fight the next Boss because we said so"

halcyon seal
#

Growing as a person is realizing that pre boss is when terraria is at its best

viral merlin
#

Too bad it's on you now to fix the hardmode progression gurararara

raw falcon
#

Hardmode just kinda feels like dlc tacked onto dlc (because it is lol)

rose laurel
#

The good thing is that it's actually not that hard

willow mantle
#

Ive always preferred prehm

rose laurel
#

The hard part is Mechs

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Which is already fixed

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Golem > Cultist isn't too bad, I just think killing Cultist shouldn't immediately trigger the Pillars

viral merlin
#

Post golem has no content

rose laurel
#

The problem is Plantera > Golem

halcyon seal
rose laurel
#

That part is just fucking inexcusable what the fuck were they thinking?

willow mantle
viral merlin
rose laurel
viral merlin
#

I'd personally move moons to post golem

raw falcon
#

Tbh call me crazy but plantera to golem simultaniously feels bloated and substanceless

rose laurel
#

Just make so killing Cultist isn't what triggers Pillars

halcyon seal
#

I think the best thing you could do to improve hardmode is genuinely just remove the pillars

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Like does anyone like them as an event?

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Serious question

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I see nothing but complaining about basically all of them

willow mantle
#

Across plantera the wings suck, the boss prog sucks, powercreep is out of place...

rose laurel
#

Pretty simple

viral merlin
lyric trellis
halcyon seal
#

In cal, sure it’s annoying but it’s not a huge deal, there’s like 30% of the game left

dull heart
#

In vanilla moons actually feel post golem

viral merlin
#

The only bad thing about them is how you have to redo them all the time if you don't got the moon lord kill

halcyon seal
#

In base terraria, this is the event you do to summon the final boss

dull heart
#

In cal we give WAY too much crowd control

rose laurel
halcyon seal
#

And it’s just bad

dull heart
#

so moons just feel sufudgd

rose laurel
#

Because there is absolutely zero reason to not go straight to Golem after Plantera

lyric trellis
#

Goodbye enemies

dull heart
#

Plantera actually has quite a good bit of stuff after her but why bother

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golem is just right there

rose laurel
#

Get a big power boost and then go deal with that shit

viral merlin
willow mantle
raw falcon
#

Yeah, that and what you can do doesn't really affect your run all that much in the long run tbh

rose laurel
halcyon seal
#

Making temple key craftable instead of a plant drop fixes the problem immediately just saying

dull heart
#

not really

raw falcon
#

hardmode dungeon can easily be skipped, so can moons, so can anahita and aureus

dull heart
#

it helps

viral merlin
#

Golem rework HDfailure

dull heart
#

but the ideal would be if the temple was not in the jungle at all

rose laurel
#

I think this is particularly invasive but I wish to entirely change how you get the Temple Key

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And potentially add new enemies to the Jungle Temple to make it harder to traverse

lyric trellis
#

Golem moved to the Aether

lapis oak
#

subworld temple

willow mantle
#

Temple is flawed due to hoiks unless devs pull a calamity addon lock

spark kiln
raw falcon
spark kiln
viral merlin
#

Get resources from several different biomes + fishing to have a guy craft you a key
But instead of giving it to you, you gotta fight him now

spark kiln
#

hoiks arent golems issue

halcyon seal
glass cosmos
#

not exactly a great thing

spark kiln
viral merlin
fathom girder
#

I hoik into the temple

spark kiln
#

except arbitrary u cant have 2 bosses in the same biome at once thats a nono!!

raw falcon
#

also, I feel like part of the problem is that the temple isn't really that fleshed out of a structure. You ususlly bumrush it to the golem arena and fight the dude and thats it. If the temple was actually more of an actual structure with stuff like puzzlerooms or collectibles that you need to actually even get to golem that would help significantly i feel

spark kiln
#

its fine to have a section of the game dedicated to the jungle i dont think thats the issue

fair gazelle
#

Yea atp you have wings and stuff, traps do nothing

fathom girder
#

Like why

viral merlin
spark kiln
willow mantle
#

The temple is one enormous anticlimax

halcyon seal
#

Dungeon is a very good structure imo

rose laurel
halcyon seal
#

If there’s any structure to try and emulate, it’s the dungeon

raw falcon
fathom girder
#

Imagine if there was a boss that unlocked fighting skeletron but the boss was right next to the old man

glass cosmos
dull heart
rose laurel
#

But I also think it's necessary if we want to have good content in the latter half of Hardmode

dull heart
#

Because you're already there

viral merlin
#

Golem especially needs a heavy rework

spark kiln
#

not that the temple is in the jungle

glass cosmos
#

there's no exploration, no substance

fathom girder
#

There are many issues

dull heart
#

moving either would be a solution

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the key obtainment or temple location

raw falcon
fair gazelle
willow mantle
#

I would support pushing back golem, but its only possible if a modded lock is placed on the temple (i.e that one wotg ice house)

viral merlin
dull heart
#

yeah HM rework is a much larger change than changing temple key obtainment imo

rose laurel
halcyon seal
#

Yeah I think post golem is fantastic in cal

rose laurel
#

However

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I think this is something we have to do

dull heart
#

I think the point isn't to stop editing vanilla

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It's to stop editing vanilla more than we need to

willow mantle
#

The dungeon has dungeon guardian, temple does not.

rose laurel
#

Yeah

dull heart
rose laurel
#

Vanilla doesn't need to be fixed most of the time

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Hardmode progression is just one of the biggest pain points of the game

willow mantle
#

I can handle hardmode progression, rarely had issues with it

viral merlin
willow mantle
#

Prehm and post-ml are both boss rushes

rose laurel
#

It's... fine in Vanilla, but absolutely awful when you try to add your content onto it

willow mantle
#

The entire game is a boss rush

glass cosmos
#

not really

viral merlin
#

He doesn't know

raw falcon
#

Honestly i think making all the hm ores unique to obtain would alleviate a lot of the monotony of it
like cobalt would be everywhere, mithril only in the ice biome and adamantite only in hell or sum

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stuff like that

fathom girder
#

I wonder if the generated plantera arena could have something extra added to it that could either lead to you or have the jungle key, which would then cause a torch god-esque event

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To like, break the curse of all the special biome keys and the jungle key

rose laurel
#

The idea of you having to grow the key is interesting

viral merlin
#

Stardew valley

rose laurel
#

Problem is how you guide the player to that

willow mantle
#

Mimics?

viral merlin
#

Everyone will just skip the growth timer though

rose laurel
#

Honestly? Following that idea, I still think Plantera can drop something

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Wait I have an idea

#

Hear me out

fathom girder
#

Same way the game guides players to the dungeon after plant dies

rose laurel
#

Plantera drops a seed that once fully grown gives you the Temple Key

fathom girder
#

A message in chat saying something happened

fathom girder
rose laurel
#

You can plant it anywhere, clicking on it opens a small UI

#

You need to feed the plant several materials

fathom girder
#

Could go full WOTG and make it a little fetch quest

#

Yeahhh okay that could be fun

willow mantle
rose laurel
#

Feed it, it grows one step

raw falcon
rose laurel
#

Make it have like, 4 steps

fathom girder
rose laurel
#

And once fully grown you just get the key

halcyon seal
#

That sounds really cool

rose laurel
#

And also after you fully grow it, Plantera drops the Temple Key again

#

No need to keep regrowing it if you lose the key

viral merlin
fair gazelle
#

Will the temple ever be un-hoinkable?

viral merlin
#

If they'll stay

rose laurel
#

Or you unlock a recipe

willow mantle
#

Its a cool concept, but it would feel out of place as the lore currently stands

rose laurel
raw falcon
rose laurel
#

Which

#

Yeah lmao

#

Don't wanna deal with this?

#

Hoiks are your friend

fair gazelle
#

Or maybe use smth silva related to grow the thing ?

fathom girder
#

Something to actually inspire the player to keep going

#

Like bam, stage one done? Here's a special helmet

rose laurel
#

Otherwise it'd be inconvenient

lapis oak
willow mantle
#

I actively want hoiks to be suppressed by like another dungeon guardian, or some other kind of trap

fathom girder
#

Life shards as a reward would be lame cuz you can farm plantera already

raw falcon
#

I just feel like it would be more atmospheric in a sense if you had to specifically do it there

misty wren
#

the issue with that is uh

raw falcon
glass cosmos
#

and if you buy the battle pass it grows faster

viral merlin
#

Hoiks is a technically intended mechanic so

fathom girder
misty wren
fathom girder
viral merlin
halcyon seal
willow mantle
raw falcon
misty wren
viral merlin
halcyon seal
#

Or chug infinite return potions

rose laurel
#

I would likely want to make it only require materials readily available after Plantera, but I think it could be locked behind Analevi

misty wren
rose laurel
#

Unsure, though

raw falcon
#

Yeah i think it'd be cool if it was locked behind both levi and maybe aureus/calclone aswell

rose laurel
#

Nah that's too much

halcyon seal
#

Shouldn’t lock it behind too much

viral merlin
#

Be evil and make the key require the community

fathom girder
#

Genius

lapis oak
#

LeviAna become main progression boss

halcyon seal
#

One of the best parts of cal imo is how free form the progression is

dusk bronze
#

what are we talking about

halcyon seal
jagged copper
#

speaking of Analevi, are the Tier 2 Abyss weapons gonna get buffs at all? Atm most are completely overshadowed by other weapons at that stage

misty wren
fathom girder
#

Leviathan becoming more important would be nice

raw falcon
#

Feel like aureus just doenst have that much going for him tbh

willow mantle
rose laurel
#

Trying to think of how to make Post Plantera not dogshit because right now you literally just beeline to the Temple

raw falcon
#

levi already unlocks abyss stuff, but aureus doesn't really do anything?

fathom girder
#

Making him relevant via presence

willow mantle
halcyon seal
#

I think anahita being necessary for the temple key makes sense, pretty likely a player would just stumble upon her when they’re doing stuff in the ocean

jagged copper
halcyon seal
#

I love shit like flak kraken or the depth crusher upgrade I’m forgetting the name of

fair gazelle
raw falcon
#

Oooh

rose laurel
#

Yeah, Analevi also make thematic sense

raw falcon
#

what if you had to get something from the abyss/silva related for the key

willow mantle
#

The abyss is in a pretty decent position

jagged copper
rose laurel
#

Though

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I could see it not being locked behind Analevi

fair gazelle
rose laurel
#

Just the Abyss as a whole

halcyon seal
willow mantle
rose laurel
#

But that might deceive players into think there's nothing more there

halcyon seal
#

I use it whenever I play ranger

dusk bronze
raw falcon
willow mantle
#

I haven't gotten around to testing post plantera yet

hasty arrow
#

is there a john calamity

halcyon seal
hasty tangle
#

there was

halcyon seal
#

Reaper sharks I mean

misty wren
dusk bronze
halcyon seal
#

So the player goes “damn this guy is beating my ASS, I’ll come back for him when I’m stronger”

jagged copper
halcyon seal
rose laurel
#

Generally though this is more a matter of

lapis oak
fair gazelle
rose laurel
#

"How do we properly guide the player"

jagged copper
halcyon seal
willow mantle
#

New players go off of instinct and its near impossible to avoid

jagged copper
#

however, the reworked Megalodon did work well against Plantera

fair gazelle
jagged copper
#

god damnit discord

willow mantle
#

Or a literal nerf?

jagged copper
#

well no not really, it's just that now half your bullets are a weak water stream

#

so yes it feels like a nerf

willow mantle
#

I'd have to compare it myself soneday

fair gazelle
#

@jagged copper what's the SPM themed lvl on your banner

jagged copper
#

River Twygz

prisma cipher
#

The calamity.. it’s spoiled

fair gazelle
#

What diff ?

prisma cipher
#

Or idk actually

jagged copper
jagged copper
lyric trellis
fair gazelle
jagged copper
lapis oak
fair gazelle
jagged copper
#

it won't, nerfed ver got updated with new deco and was buffed so much it surpassed the unnerfed

jagged copper
lapis oak
#

what kind of similar you talking about

#

because the whole line getting reworked

jagged copper
#

so the Minishark and Megashark are getting reworked? You're confusing me

lapis oak
#

🫠

jagged copper
#

when I mean by "lineup", I mean:
Minishark > Archerfish > Megashark > Megalodon > Seadragon > Voidragon

lapis oak
#

they're vanilla contents

#

also you're missing Archerfish

jagged copper
#

you right I did

lyric trellis
#

But more interesting

misty monolith
#

i really love the sea dragon sprite

#

so i’m gonna miss it

dull heart
#

Hmm should I spoiler

lapis oak
#

ye 🥺

#

btw how the usestyle1 thing been going

vivid hemlock
#

kiriblight will lose its right lung

lapis oak
#

wtf...

dull heart
#

it has been voted off the island

dull heart
#

good luck

lapis oak
#

good run (it wasn't)

dull heart
#

i might make the swing another mod

#

but idk enough rn

final pine
#

what evern was use style 1

lapis oak
#

guess I'll keep never using those weapons like always except Terra Blade line and, others that also got spices in 1.4.4

#

vanilla should do them more

jagged copper
dull heart
#

I already spoiled you sorry

jagged copper
#

piss

halcyon seal
#

Glass

#

Platforms are a variant on a wall

#

Eutrophic glass is a variant of glass

#

EUTROPHIC GLASS WALL IS DONE

#

I AM A GENIUS BEYOND MORTAL COMPREHENSION

viral merlin
#

Devourer of Goods

dense sundial
lyric trellis
lapis oak
#

#unknown 😨

lyric trellis
#

Virus link

still bluff
#

tierlist server = virus link??

dusk bronze
#

i knew it

lyric trellis
lapis oak
#

smelly link

hazy pine
dense sundial
dull heart
lapis oak
#

was it close

dusty tinsel
#

KiriDev when

dull heart
#

sorry

dull heart
#

we could but I didn't care enough

#

It ended up looking almost 1-1 like Fargo's which is really funny bc I didn't look at Fargo's at all when designing it

#

convergent design

lapis oak
#

think alike

lapis oak
dull heart
#

I did have more I wanted to do

#

tot be swing animation

lapis oak
#

tot?

cobalt wharf
fathom girder
#

Y'know how everything evolves into crabs

fringe quiver
#

what happened

dull heart
fringe quiver
#

fair enough

dull heart
#

i don't read many but the anime got me hooked