calamity-update-talk

[lapis oak]

ye it's not that great, could get some helps

mainly bringing more satisfaction in using it

[willow mantle]

As long as there's good variety im fine

[lapis oak]

Roxcalibur got reworked in HH December but I'm sorry it's not satisfying in the slightest 😭

that needs a big help me think

[willow mantle]

I havent tried it yet

[dull heart]

rox is a donor item

[lyric trellis]

Victide has some questionable weapon designs after the reworks but that was 3 years ago so yeah

[willow mantle]

Only got round to storm saber a week or two ago

[lapis oak]

ye Javyz I'm sorry but it feels so bad to play it

[dull heart]

what does it even do now idr

[lapis oak]

😢 funny Rox not actually funny to use...

[fathom girder]

Pogo but weapon

[dull heart]

ok thought so

[fathom girder]

I just hate the stupid rock on it personally

[dull heart]

What did it do before

[fathom girder]

Well maybe not hate

But man why

[pulsar cobalt]

doze can u clarify coral spouts tooltip that the buff it gives is flat damage, and not %damage

[lapis oak]

charged up for pogo if mouse down or Inferna Cutter for mouse up

[dull heart]

I'm so excited for what 2.1 is gonna bring

[dull heart]

idk what that is

[pulsar cobalt]

i feel like its quite important since the buff is meant to incentivise the shotgun part

Fully charging the attack releases a single, bigger chunk of coral that sticks to enemies
Grabbing the chunk of coral after it falls from the enemy replenishes 150 mana
The mana-charged coral also provides a buff that increases the coral's damage and the convergence speed

and then buffs tooltip says
Coral Spout charges up faster and deals 2 extra damage

theres more to the tooltip but it was irrelevant,,

but it just says it fires a spread of multiple coral parts

[lapis oak]

carpal tunnel in DS tier that's crazy

[pulsar cobalt]

also holy shit the explanation of the dropped coral did not need to be two seperate lines

[vapid estuary]

Everyone is

[stone fiber]

Coral tunnel

[dusk bronze]

corporal tunnel III

[fathom girder]

Did you get demoted to customer you know exactly what 2.1 is bringing...

[dull heart]

ok and

[fathom girder]

I-

[hard hearth]

customer

[fathom girder]

Um

[pulsar cobalt]

can still be excited over wat ur making,,

[fathom girder]

I guess

[stone fiber]

I'll be honest the official concepts for God slayer and Auric Tesla armor really look over designed to me
(But these ones ain't it either)

(By the way is Auric Tesla armor getting changed to just Auric?)

[spark kiln]

hope not

[valid crypt]

Their heads look comically large
Also wait melee godslayer?

[stone fiber]

The armor or

[valid crypt]

Ah

[stone fiber]

Wait HOLY SHIT-

LET'S GOOO

[pseudo vector]

hi

[silk pebble]

hai ceedee moosic

i love mosoic

[fringe quiver]

Oh hi cd

Would it b alright if i dmed you rq

[pseudo vector]

sure

[dry whale]

cd jumpscare

[stone fiber]

Wait so Evil 2 is now post ML? That's why the Rotten Matter/Blood Sample stuff is getting killed off?

[fringe quiver]

Nah it being killed off is unrelated

Evil2 progression change is not guaranteed to happen yet

[pulsar cobalt]

no its just useless as fuck

[fringe quiver]

(Albeit it's highly likely)

It's just being killed off because all it does is just craft the items the boss themselves already drop yeah

Material bloat

[dry whale]

only real purpose is summon hekate

[pulsar cobalt]

hmm the previous boss drops shadow scales wat could this one be,,

i know,,,

true shadow scales

[hard hearth]

darkness scales

[dry whale]

shadower scales

tissuer sample

[stone fiber]

(Also why is there a dragonfolly icon over aerospec

[dry whale]

shadow crystals...

[cinder hearth]

The evil 2 swap is not gonna be in SSO

It's just a plan for the future

[dry whale]

is folly tiershift confirmed or something?

[vivid hemlock]

i dont rlly see how it is overdesigned but alrighty

[cinder hearth]

I believe it's happening alongside the evil 2 tier shift

So not confirmed but pretty likely

[dry whale]

I saw the folly in auric so I assumed so

wtf

aerospec*

[stone fiber]

Nani
The f*vk

[dry whale]

hands

ds will throw hands

[cinder hearth]

That's just a sort of Frankensteined version

The true sprite will not be like that exactly

[dry whale]

aka separated pieces of the actual sprite glued together

with some missing ones

[azure oak]

plenty of bosses are gonna get changed a lot in future updates cause the devs have creative freedom over them now

and most bosses will be getting reworks

how much something will change varies,
for instance, this is nuclear terror (still a w.i.p.)

[halcyon seal]

oh i see the difference, he's got a new haircut

[hard hearth]

nuclear terror is those two black dots on top of the terrarian

😊

[lapis oak]

those 2 aren't black?

[hard hearth]

red

ehhh same thing when you look from far away enough

[azure oak]

john ravager

[pulsar cobalt]

he got legs

[azure oak]

cant believe ravager gained legs after being revived

[cunning sequoia]

he sacrificed his life for legs

[cinder hearth]

John ravager before death ! (Version without clothes too)

Posted by cosmatic mango

[azure oak]

sacrificed his extra pair of arms for a pair of legs

[dusk bronze]

that must've cost an arm and a leg

[cinder hearth]

No, just two arms

[dense sundial]

Why did Agnus reincarnate into a gorilla? Is he stupid?

[lapis oak]

monke

[fringe quiver]

John sacrifices...

His name may be Agnus but in my heart

he will forever be John Sacrifices

[agile tulip]

Are these spoilers for future calamity updates or for the calamity origins(??) mod that creators of calamity made

[dense sundial]

According to Mango his name is Bob Birch

[azure oak]

nice to get another less-humanoid god

[azure oak]

these are spoilers for future calamity updates, also i have never heard of some "calamity origins" thing

[fringe quiver]

Calamity Origins Huh

[agile tulip]

I put ??? Because I didn't remember the proper name

[fringe quiver]

Do you mean Calamity Fables...?
Because if so that is a entirely unaffiliated project made by a entirely separate development team, and it has its own dedicated discord server, this one is for Calamity itself and unless stated otherwise the spoilers here are for base Calamity

[agile tulip]

I did mean fables, yeah. Apologies

[fringe quiver]

Calamity Fables is just a alternative take of a different development team for Calamity based on their own personal vision

Don't worry it's fine

Just clarifying that it's not like, a "Remake" of calamity or a official "Calamity 2" but just a entirely separate project because it's a surprisingly Common Misconception

And i fully blame youtube for it

[agile tulip]

So calamity is going to be reworking bosses, are they also adding new ones? And what of the music?

[fringe quiver]

No new bosses will be added save for the final boss (Yharim) and maybe two superbosses afterwards

[azure oak]

exo mechs theme is still being made

[agile tulip]

I remember dokuro left the team but I don't know if they plan to change the music for any of the bosses

[fringe quiver]

Calamity already has. alot of bosses as is; Calamity is a content mod, and thus developers want to focus on other parts of Content such as exploration, lore, events, etc

[azure oak]

current one is a placeholder

[fringe quiver]

Dokuro's music will be kept

It won't be replaced

[agile tulip]

That's awesome, I love the calamity music Dokuro made

It'll be nice to see the update when it comes out, seeing as they're making all these new designs

[fringe quiver]

Not all of this stuff will be in the next update

It'd make it take like 4 years if it was 😭

[agile tulip]

True, update__s__*

[fringe quiver]

Generally the next update will focus on Sunken Sea stuff, a few weapon reworks and some miscellaneous additions here and there, and ntoably a major rework to the Desert Scourge, Cnidrion and Giant Clam

They'll all be entirely redone from the groundup

[azure oak]

"a few"

[fringe quiver]

a few ™

(ignore the fact theres like 100+ things)

[azure oak]

a very small amount of reworks

[dense sundial]

By “entirely redone from the ground up” we mean, well, imagine current Desert Scourge

Now chop up current Desert Scourge in a meat grinder and replace it with an ankylosaurus

[fringe quiver]

🔥

[dull heart]

wulfrum knife right click my beloved

[azure oak]

desert scourge sprite reconstruction moment

[fringe quiver]

the photobashed creature

[dense sundial]

Why does it get a right click anyway

[dull heart]

Every time I see this the more cursed it looks

[fringe quiver]

This isn't actually the official sprite but it's essentially a photoshopped reconstruction of it using some small bits of it that have been revealed lol

[dull heart]

It fits with the rest of the set

the whole wulfrum set is designed with an alt fire that helps something the class struggles with early game

[dense sundial]

Blunderbuss:

[fringe quiver]

New desert scourge is barely even a worm boss anymore, not only in design but also in the fact it will have entirely original AI that isn't reused by any vanilla enemies!

[dull heart]

except that but shh

[fringe quiver]

I know right

original boss AI

in my calamity mod

insane

[agile tulip]

I saw the Frankenstein scourge sprite earlier in the chat and tbh it looks so cute?? Like those limbs are so stubby what a lil guy

[dull heart]

Ranged doesn't have an early game struggle

[dense sundial]

Unique AI doesn’t make it not a worm boss

But it definitely isn’t a traditional worm boss

[fringe quiver]

It is a worm boss by technicality yeah its still like. Segmented Enemy

[dull heart]

melee - ranged attack
mage - mana
summoner - defensive power
rogue - stealth generation

[fringe quiver]

But it dosen't just share the vanilla worm enemy ai with extra bits added ontop

[cunning sequoia]

if people can call sepulcher a worm they'll call DS a worm

[dull heart]

ds is definitely a worm boss just a short one

[fringe quiver]

Like its ai isnt just

Leap out of the sand

Shoot projectiles

If that makes sense. Lol. Lmao

[dull heart]

you can't prove that

[dense sundial]

Sepulcher’s limbs don’t even do anything…

[fathom girder]

Temporary walls

[fringe quiver]

temporary walls

[fringe quiver]

Yes i can

[cunning sequoia]

they uhh look cool

[dull heart]

I do not think temp walls will happen ngl

[fringe quiver]

1. I'm
2. Cheese

[azure oak]

so it's just an underground fight?

[dull heart]

no

the fight isn't very far along though so ultimately we'll see

[dense sundial]

How’s the code going

Like does it have nothing yet or a movement foundation or some attacks

[dull heart]

it has two attacks? done I think but Ennway hasn't had time to work on it recently

I gave it both segment AI and a worm animation system

so that we have better segment control than just following the head blindly

[lapis oak]

worm

[dull heart]

my weaver rework for another mod uses the same segment animation system and it's been nice

[dense sundial]

PLEASE tell me you want it to be able to swing its body around or move its tail independently or such

Give it a tail club slam and my life is yours

[dull heart]

it is able to move all segments independently

[upper orchid]

is this still getting added or is it cancelled?

[azure oak]

afaik it's still the plan here's the full version of the phase2 sprite

[fathom girder]

You really are the worm expert of the team, damn

[dull heart]

my other mod weaver uses it here to force the tail to be protected by the body, for example

but it's much more flexible than just that

I can't show any other examples bc all the other ones I have on hand are on scourge

[dense sundial]

Does this solve the vanilla worm problem where segments drift slightly off course because the head drags them behind

[lapis oak]

Thanatos

[dull heart]

that's not really a problem it logically makes sense

but uhh

sort of?

there's two segments systems

one for normal movement, one for animations

Animations are hard coded positions

(although they have flexible amounts of rigidity so the segments aren't fully forced to match the animation if you don't want

Normal movement works the same way Infernum worms do

Well, similar

Normal movement also has variable rigidity which is the worm straightening itself out automatically

[main pivot]

the arms looks gulp.........

[dull heart]

Basically worms can do most things needed but there's not a system yet for perfect tracking behind the head

[cinder hearth]

The lore of him is that apparently he gave parts of himself away so

[dull heart]

I want that system but can't figure out a good way to make it

I wanna give my weaver mod lightning dashes with sharp turns

current system causes worms to smooth the turns out

[dusty tinsel]

Angus gorilla mode go brrrr

Should have made him a giant cow

Because Angus is a cow type 😂

[dull heart]

it's actually agnus

Agnus Immolatus

[boreal edge]

Every time I see this the more I hate it because it's spreading false ideas of what the sprite is

[dull heart]

Yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Oh well still giant cow is close enough

[dull heart]

the reconstruction is better than expected but still a far cry from what the boss actually looks like

[misty wren]

its really fucky and you can very clearly see that its symmetrical on a boss that im fairly certain is meant to be not symmetrical

[lapis oak]

devs hate it

good

[dense sundial]

One (1) dev

[lapis oak]

slowly

[misty wren]

devs hate them for this one simple trick!

[dull heart]

anyway how is the day cst

[lapis oak]

need poiler

[azure oak]

today has been

[dull heart]

I already gave one sorry

If I have to wait for a week for the next episode of call of the night you can wait for a spoiler sorry

[fathom girder]

More poiler...

[azure oak]

the poiler...

[main pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/pūkeko-damn-bird-baby-chick-gif-15318900613146393132

[dull heart]

I thought that was a stick figure before the gif started moving

[main pivot]

3 legs

[dull heart]

true

[main pivot]

[dull heart]

to be fair the third is much lighter due to highlights and it started moving quickly

[main pivot]

dozezoze

[dull heart]

yes

[main pivot]

When will you make the Astrum thing

[dull heart]

I do not know what you mean by the Astrum thing I'm ngl

[dense sundial]

Invoked Stargod?

[lapis oak]

Invoked

[dull heart]

oh

stargod

[main pivot]

no

[dull heart]

I've been working on it slowly

ah

[main pivot]

Astrum Aureus

[dull heart]

then still no idea, I have so many ideas and things to do

I'm not doing anything to aureus

I haven't had any plans to

[misty wren]

isnt it fry working on aureus

[dull heart]

yeah

at least probably will eventually

[main pivot]

wait what

[dense sundial]

Well I hope Astrum Whatever isn’t a priority for 2.1

[main pivot]

uhhhhhhh

[lapis oak]

Mihaii u a dev, that live under the rock

[main pivot]

It's true, sorry doze

[dull heart]

no worries

[misty wren]

he was posting minor updates fairly frequently in ccc

[dull heart]

that reminds me to go nerf iron boots

[misty wren]

i think mostly just working on ik

[dull heart]

And that reminds me to make glacial embrace cooler

[lapis oak]

good

[woven geyser]

please dont do that

[dull heart]

have iron boots even been shown publicly

[inner timber]

call of the night watcher

peak

[lapis oak]

no

[woven geyser]

theyve been in the game for a while havent they?

[dull heart]

cotn is so good I'm so mad with this week's cliffhanger

[lapis oak]

all that shown was the resprite

[dull heart]

They're being reworked

[inner timber]

i jus read dat shit

[dull heart]

I will after this season ends

[woven geyser]

i live under a rock so i didnt know

[dull heart]

I don't wanna read ahead while this season is still airing though bc then I'll be spoiled when the episodes release

same with another one of the series I'm watching

[woven geyser]

mr dev will calamity ever rework exo mechs to be harder

[dull heart]

We will rework them to actually be good

[woven geyser]

theyre pretty ez as of right now not to be a nerd i just ask if there are any plans ahead

[dense sundial]

The entire current Calamity team hates Exos afaik

[woven geyser]

less go

[valid crypt]

walk to the left/right sim

[dull heart]

I don't hate them but

they can be better

[woven geyser]

wrath of the machines did a good job i think and so did infernum on reworkin them

[valid crypt]

a lot of bosses (or all) will eventually get heavy ai changes to be good iiirc

[woven geyser]

but im glad that yous hate them

[dull heart]

Lucille stealing all the good exo rework ideas

[dense sundial]

Nah

[dull heart]

oh true she hasn't used Thanatos being a baseball bat yet

[valid crypt]

thanatos body blocks the other mechs

[dull heart]

likely not all

[dense sundial]

No one has taken the best Exos rework idea yet, which is to replace Exos with something that’s not a massive conceptual disappointment

[dull heart]

Providence specifically is pretty agreed to be in a good place

[dull heart]

not happening sorry

[woven geyser]

i honestly like exos i just thought they were really easy

[valid crypt]

thats not a rework thats an overhaul or replacement idk the words

[dull heart]

Yeah that's just a replacement

would be like calling Aureus a rework of Geldon

[woven geyser]

itd be pretty sick if the exos had a desparation phase all four at the end

like how ceaseless kills itself

they self destruct and go all out

[valid crypt]

have all 4 permanently out

[woven geyser]

thatd be sick

[dull heart]

I'd be cool if ares actually had a photon ripper arm

please

[dense sundial]

I’m not going to say they’re just unworkable. Look at Eternity

[woven geyser]

arent you a dev

[dull heart]

yes and

I'm not the only dev nor can I sprite

[pseudo vector]

its not like we can suddenly rework exos out of the blue lol

that'd require its own update and we're not at that point yet

[woven geyser]

aw man

[dull heart]

I mean we could

[dense sundial]

Please do not

[woven geyser]

please do

[pseudo vector]

yeah but then sso would take even longer to come out

[analog helm]

"exo mechs i command you to rework yourself" shrimple as that

[pseudo vector]

and i don't think anyone would want that

[dull heart]

not necessarily tby

[woven geyser]

sso? (i live under a rock)

[valid crypt]

theres like idk 33?

[dull heart]

it wouldn't be something SSO waits on

[valid crypt]

sunken sea overhaul

[woven geyser]

fr just tell draedon to rework it

[woven geyser]

ohh yeah i heard of that

it sounds sick

s there a date on that

[pulsar cobalt]

doze why cant u just click the rework exos button and rework exos

[valid crypt]

biggest update in calamitys history for only first part of 2 iirc

[dull heart]

also I feel like it would be doable to make an exos rework within the time SSO still has left

[coarse steeple]

i been waiting for sso or 1.4.5 to play terraria again safe to say i will never be booting up the game again 😭

[dull heart]

DoG took me like a week

or less

[valid crypt]

pins check themn

[pseudo vector]

if we were to rework exos that'd also require me to finish the theme

[dull heart]

it was actually like 3 days but had to give people time to test

[woven geyser]

thanks

[pseudo vector]

there will not be a date placed on any update

[dull heart]

reworked exos with no music at all

just silence

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-puss-in-boots-fat-puss-in-boots-sad-fat-puss-in-boots-gif-11290664950375525044

[woven geyser]

oh do yous just surprise drop then?

i didnt know

[pseudo vector]

we at least put out a trailer

[dull heart]

a date might be out when we're close

[valid crypt]

yeah theres trailers and stuff but no release dates

[dull heart]

like I could see us doing a trailer with a release date once it's done

[pseudo vector]

yeah

[dull heart]

but the release date wouldn't be known more than a week or two out I'd imagine

[dense sundial]

Reworked Exos but they still have the Infernum mechs theme

[pseudo vector]

but we aren't at that point yet and won't be for a bit

[woven geyser]

yeah

[dull heart]

they just use VCMM Mechs clearly

[woven geyser]

anyways thats cool

[dull heart]

or pull a MEAC and use Lindsey Stirling music for some reason

[pseudo vector]

vcmm mechs don't have their theme yet either LOL

[woven geyser]

im really hyped for the yharim update in 2081

[lapis oak]

that's optimistic

please add another 0

[dense sundial]

Why don’t we just take Exos and make them Balteus or something

[dull heart]

I still can't believe MEAC EoL was music synced to Lindsay Stirling's Prism for some reason

[woven geyser]

shh

[dull heart]

That threw me off so hard

[dense sundial]

109 Balteuses?

[dull heart]

02081

[woven geyser]

20810

achkshually

[dull heart]

02018

[coarse steeple]

2018

[woven geyser]

81002

bce

[glass cosmos]

what is VCMM

[woven geyser]

vocal cocal mocal mocal

[dull heart]

Very Cool M&Ms

vanilla calamity mod music

[azure oak]

i'd be willing to wait for a seperate exo mechs rework update

fight's not that good but it's also not the end of the world

[dull heart]

exos is a good couple bosses up the list of worst bosses

DoG, Signus, and Ravager are probably the worst 3

Doesn't mean we'll take that order though

[pseudo vector]

that'll probably be what happens in the end
after sso we'll probably get to eventual individual boss rework updates and such

[azure oak]

also WotM exists to make the bosses better in the mean time

[pseudo vector]

cuz i think we've established we won't be doing another sso sized update unless i'm mistaken

[dull heart]

That's the plan

[azure oak]

SSO also just kinda has a lot of stuff that isnt even related to the sunken sea overhaul

[dull heart]

Anything of similar size can be worked on in the background over multiple other updates

like the distortion

[tropic jolt]

500 Weapon Reworks

[dull heart]

Distortion will likely be the largest single piece of content we release but it'll probably be smaller than 2.1 as a whole

[pseudo vector]

pretty much

[thorny glacier]

yharim’s update giggling maliciously

[pseudo vector]

that'll be much further down the line probably

[tropic jolt]

whats a yharim

ive never heard of such a thing

[pseudo vector]

its best that we improve what we already have instead of jumping to a new boss like yharim lol

[dull heart]

yharim's update will probably not have as much content as distortion, but it will be obviously very important

[pseudo vector]

otherwise we'd have a little problem called
the rest of our bosses are ass, with a handful being significantly better

[lyric trellis]

A little problem

[dense sundial]

we already got that it's called supreme brothers

[glass cosmos]

I like that devs are focusing on exploration things instead of adding bosses

[pseudo vector]

totally not a problem that will take multiple focussed updates to fix over time

[glass cosmos]

because tbh, at some point hardmode feels like a boss rush

[tropic jolt]

to an extent vanilla can feel like that as well

[azure oak]

gonna be weird to have a content rich pre-hardmode and then the rest of the mod is just regular calamity

[dense sundial]

i'd like to see some bosses removed but i know this massive community would probably go rabid over it

except not over old duke getting replaced, i guess?

[glass cosmos]

yep

[dull heart]

old duke is still old duke but reworked

and resprited

But maybe not

[dense sundial]

and renamed and somewhat rewritten

[dull heart]

Ultimately plans there are super up in the air

[dense sundial]

fish of theseus is not a fishron

[tropic jolt]

changes will always be met with backlash so developers need to decide whether the backlash is worth it when making any major change

[dull heart]

^

I do not think any boss would be worth removing

[dense sundial]

shortsword removal backlash

[tropic jolt]

every boss is somebodies favorite probably

even old duke...

[dense sundial]

sample size is 7 or 8 million

it's only natural that there would be at least one example

[dull heart]

Honestly old duke is not a bad boss

He just

looks like duke Fishron

[dense sundial]

old duke is a fine fight because he's duke fishron, and duke fishron is a fine fight

that's really it

[dull heart]

but in terms of the actual boss he's one of the better ones

[dull heart]

he's more distinct than people give credit for

[azure oak]

brown duke fishron is not very distinct tbh

[dull heart]

Design wise he's not

Fight wise he is

[glass cosmos]

not really

[dense sundial]

he has uhhh

[tropic jolt]

to me old duke has always felt like an event miniboss

[lyric trellis]

Definitely a better and well structured fight compared to most in Cal, even if the bar is low

[dull heart]

his dashes work notably different being predictive

He does not have bubbles nor sharkronados

[dense sundial]

the splitting teeth, vortex instead of sharknadoes, rest...?

[tropic jolt]

like a martian saucer

[dense sundial]

prediction yea

[dull heart]

that's literally almost all of the fight notably different

the only real gameplay similarities are that they both dash

[dull heart]

I guess it can also teleport sometimes in phase 3

[dense sundial]

they both dash from diagonally above you, they both spit a series of round homing projectiles from diagonally above you, they both spin to create an area denial projectile that fires sharkrons, they both darken the sky and teleport with glowing eyes in phase 3

[dull heart]

but all of the supposed similarity to Duke Fishron is the fact that he looks like Duke Fishron and his sulphur sharkron look like Sharkron

[azure oak]

i'm sure something more interesting can still be done with it overall if it gets fish-of-theseus'd

[dense sundial]

sure they're different, but the skeleton of their attacks is still close to identical

[dull heart]

the projectiles being round is a visual similarity, also Bubbles are not projectiles and functionally very different from tooth balls (which also aren't projectiles)

like saying dealing with bubbles is at all the same as dealing with tooth balls seems silly

bubbles you shoot once and they're gone

Tooth Balls leave lingering poison clouds where you kill them

[lyric trellis]

It’s pretty funny how Yharon still has the flarenados, at least old duke gets the vortexes

[dull heart]

and they act different, and have intangibility sometimes

[dense sundial]

anyway i think this argument is not very pointful and we surely agree regardless that the boss shouldn't be a duke fishron

[dull heart]

and yeah the Vortex is also very different than Sharkronados. They both serve purpose of area denial

[dull heart]

oh absolutely

his entire visuals need an entire replacement

[dense sundial]

yeah

[dull heart]

also does the vortex spawn sulphur sharkron? I didn't think it does

I think he spawns them directly independently of it

[dense sundial]

actually i can't remember where they come from

[dense sundial]

he needs a replacement. everything about him does. and that's what most of you desire and are planning for afaik

[lyric trellis]

They don’t come from the vortex yeah

Vortex just can suck you in which is kinda neat but nothing crazy

[dense sundial]

oh yeah he does duke's sharknado roar and the sharkrons just manifest in a horizontal eruption

i remember now from infernum old duke retaining that attack almost entirely

[dull heart]

yeah

I don't think the AI really needs a full replacement but like... it isn't a bad thing to fully replace it too

[dense sundial]

well it would be incredibly jarring if you replaced his design but not his fight

[dull heart]

On the list of bosses least needing AI replacement I think it'd be something like

Providence
Ceaseless Void
Guardians
Old Duke
Cryogen

I feel like I'm forgetting one

[fathom girder]

Ravager

[dull heart]

Oh PBG (once BH is undone)

that also would be up there

[dense sundial]

just see about each boss as you get around to it ig

[dull heart]

And Aureus

[flat folio]

IK Aureus in 5

[dense sundial]

IA-13 SEA SPIDER is Right There

[lyric trellis]

Lynel opening AC6

[dull heart]

I should make a tier list about how badly bosses need reworks

[flat folio]

Un-metal-worm-ified Deus

[fathom girder]

Leave that to orios

That's kinda his thing

[lyric trellis]

Could’ve sworn that happened a month ago but that was probably cit and someone else

[dull heart]

I can do you one better

[fathom girder]

Jellyfished deus

[lyric trellis]

Ominous Stargod

[azure oak]

wuh

[dull heart]

of course

[azure oak]

what is

[fathom girder]

How is stargod coming along anyway

Oh damn

[dull heart]

Haven't touched stargod in like 2 weeks

tbh

[tropic jolt]

what if astrum deus was a slime boss and we called it astrum geldus or something cool like that!

[fathom girder]

Making lists of things for sso

Sorry ping

[slate folio]

Imagine if I resprited this mf

[azure oak]

how would i make a tier list for somone else's opinions

[pulsar cobalt]

could make a pun and avalon reference with it

[fathom girder]

Um

Yeah!

[pulsar cobalt]

we can call it

[dull heart]

I have been on my anime arc the past two or three weeks so

done less calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

astrageldon

[fathom girder]

You should animefy stargod

[tropic jolt]

great idea

[lyric trellis]

Have to reference such an old mod out of respect obviously

[dull heart]

About that

[fathom girder]

[boreal edge]

Yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

YEah

[boreal edge]

Too lazy to find it though

[flat folio]

Oblivion reference

[fathom girder]

We need more warframe references

[lyric trellis]

Half of Calamity reference

[dull heart]

an artist I know (they were in weavercord) already did that

someone sent it here before

This

[fathom girder]

Lmao

[cunning sequoia]

WAS THAT THE FUCKING GASTER BLASTERS FROM SANS FIRST ATTACK

[dull heart]

YES

I was waiting for someone to realize

[cunning sequoia]

i have this damn thing memorized

the SECOND i saw those last blasters i realized

[hasty tangle]

boss 1 makes this clip a lot better

[dull heart]

true

[dense sundial]

yea

[dusk bronze]

i noticed it was familiar but didn't put it together lol

[tropic jolt]

if boss 1 is so good then where is boss 2?

[dull heart]

I love boss 1

[hasty tangle]

right here

[cunning sequoia]

🤯

[dusk bronze]

this is the peakest track in vanilla

[dull heart]

If boss 2 is so good where is boss 2 2

[tropic jolt]

this is not boss 2 this is the theme of the wall of flesh

[dull heart]

I have news for you

[dull heart]

I want to argue against this but

[hasty tangle]

no, its the theme of twins silly

[dull heart]

I don't think I can

[tropic jolt]

no the twins have their own theme

🙄

[stone fiber]

So like Betsy?

[lyric trellis]

It was pretty typical iirc so I’m sure people can just imagine it anyway

[dusk bronze]

not yet!

1.4.5 next decade

[dull heart]

Wait there's a second invoked stargod animefied artwork

huh

[dusk bronze]

george bush image

[dull heart]

I hope that artist is doing well since they left weavercord

[cunning sequoia]

boss 3 clears sorry...

[pulsar cobalt]

if boss 3 so good

why isnt there a boss 4

[cunning sequoia]

the mischevious queen bee

[dusk bronze]

good news

[dusk bronze]

no that's boss 5

[tropic jolt]

boss 4 is pretty bad, so its a good thing there isn't a boss 5

[cunning sequoia]

❓

yeah?

wait

whats boss 4 then

[dusk bronze]

4 is cultist and golem

[cunning sequoia]

i thought boss 4 was qb

isnt that just called golem

[dusk bronze]

no it's boss 4

the music box

bc it's used for more than one boss

[cunning sequoia]

its both apparently

terraria is stupid let's all go play garfield kart

[dusk bronze]

true

[tropic jolt]

soon we will discovery the elusive boss 6

[dense sundial]

after that can we all go play lego star wars 3 tower defense mode

[cunning sequoia]

BASED

that was the most based lego game you couldve chosen

[dusk bronze]

let's play the zillo beast level

[pulsar cobalt]

the music box is called boss 4, but the actual music is titled golem

[dull heart]

So

[stone fiber]

Hey guys so I've seen this idea in the comments under Ravager rework that it's two phases could be split in progression
The first phase would be around that time when you fight him now and the second one (aka the main one) would be post Providence, kind of like the old Yharon fight
Their argument was that this way the boss would stay consistent with SbtC (Interlude 2) and would be a great fit both thematically and overall
What do you think?

[dusk bronze]

old yharon mechanics

[dull heart]

I don't think we'll split Ravager

[dense sundial]

please don't

[cunning sequoia]

the whole point of moving ravager to post-ml is to remove boss bloat

[dull heart]

But

Depending on implementation

I could see a split working

[dense sundial]

🐴

[dull heart]

I don't think we would though

I don't really know how a split would even make sense

The only way I see it making sense is if Agnus is still alive and acts as phase 1 and you end up killing them, leading to Ravager revival later on. However, you killing Agnus doesn't really make sense and would work better for the story as something that is done in the background

[stone fiber]

Did anything ever came out of this?

[dusk bronze]

no

[inner timber]

agnus when we murk his ass for actually genuinely no reason

[steep path]

Man I'm a fake fan who tf is agnus

[fast bison]

Whats the reasoning for removing the expert+ AI changes?

[lyric trellis]

I assume you mean the Cal changed to vanilla bosses being removed in Classic, Expert, and master, cause Rev and Death still have their AI changes next update

[fast bison]

oh thats what I needed yeah

thank you

[fringe quiver]

Me when i have to kill agnus because im bored

[inner timber]

god of sacrifice

iirc

[fringe quiver]

God of Sacrifices
Ravager before he fuckinf died

He was a really nice dude

[steep path]

Ahhh nice

[dusk bronze]

behold

the guy

[vivid hemlock]

this has been forwarded like 3 times already i feel like atp you could just like link it

[steep path]

Oh he's got a deer face that's awesome actually

[dusk bronze]

it has?

my apolocheese

[vivid hemlock]

ye

[valid crypt]

your apoloWHAT

[brave star]

Astral swirl of doom

[brave star]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[viral merlin]

Deer

Guy from haunted mansion

[brave star]

Nokotan’s cousin

[analog helm]

that one guy from spookys jumpscare mansion

[cunning sequoia]

ehh deer lord is more malevolent

its what i thought of too tho

[raw falcon]

isn't this guy benevolent actually?

Well, was before he got yharim'd

[valid crypt]

Yeah agnus is a cool guy
God of self sacrifice for a reason

They would sacrifice themself for others

[raw falcon]

But then yharim came in and said "Uh, nuh uh, you're evil actually, please die." And yharim'd all over him

[valid crypt]

Yeah

[raw falcon]

like the sad pathetic man he is

[lucid torrent]

like the awesome evil man he is*

[valid crypt]

Read this

[raw falcon]

It'd be so fucking funny if zetaros actually gave his soul up willingly to xeroc
-# wich I already kinda suspect tbh

[lucid torrent]

That would kinda be bad writing

[valid crypt]

Yeah i do kinda expect it

[valid crypt]

How so

[raw falcon]

howso?

[lucid torrent]

Because if Yharim's entire crusade was a misunderstanding I'll interpret the point of calamity's story as a gag instead of something cautionary

It would make sense if yharon twisted the story or some external event made it appear different

[valid crypt]

It was already the best action to take to absorb zeratros

[lucid torrent]

Yes it was

[raw falcon]

It would moreso call into question yharon's character

[lucid torrent]

But it'll just be a gag if the extinction of basically the whole planet was caused by a misunderstanding

[valid crypt]

Yharon just wasnt in the room and didnt know what actually happened yet told yharim

I disagree it would be a gag

[pulsar cobalt]

ok but regardless of it being a misunderstanding on yharons part, the both of them would still feel the same about literally every other god too

its not about WHY

[valid crypt]

It would just mean xeroc, despite being the most hated person by yharim is the very antithesis to his black and white views

[pulsar cobalt]

its about WHAT

[fringe quiver]

I mean i don't think it would be given a big part of Calamity is considering the nuance around one's circumstances before deciding them as bad or good

[pulsar cobalt]

thats what the duo dont like about gods

they permanently had to kill a dragon

[fringe quiver]

And regardless if it was willing or not

Yharon would have done the opposite of that

By just assuming Xeroc Absorbed Zeratros's Soul Because He's Evil And Fucked Up

Whether Zeratros did it willingly or not, the outcome is more or less the same

[raw falcon]

Its not really a gag to have a character commit genocide based on some sort of false notion of self righteousness

[fringe quiver]

Yharon dosen't consider the possible nuance of the situation, jumps to conclusions and decides to see things as black and white, convinces Yharim to Kill People, and you know the rest

[lucid torrent]

I suppose so but yharim being that delusional doesn't make him that great of an antagonist

[lucid torrent]

Yeah which is what he's doing rn

[dusk bronze]

why

[raw falcon]

He's already delusional though?

[pulsar cobalt]

he already IS that delusional

[valid crypt]

Yharim is already delusional

[lucid torrent]

But if it was over a complete misunderstanding then

[pulsar cobalt]

did you read what i said?

[lucid torrent]

eh

[fringe quiver]

He's really delusional already yeah

[dusk bronze]

why would being delusional make you a bad antagonist

[valid crypt]

Yharim would likely still hate xeroc even if he knew it was consensual
Would just find another excuse

[fringe quiver]

It wouldn't ultimately matter if Xeroc absorbed Zeratros's soul with willingness on Zera's part or not because, again

the outcome would be the same and so would be the message

Atleast to me

[lucid torrent]

because there's an extent to delusion

[lucid torrent]

but then what's the narrative point of yharim

[dusk bronze]

the fuck does that mean

[raw falcon]

Well, what do you see the narrative point of yharim as?

[lucid torrent]

theres levels to how delusional you can be

[lucid torrent]

a cautionary tale

[valid crypt]

And yharim killed half the planet due to his

[pulsar cobalt]

yharim is looking fondly at a past he was never there for and thought it was better, somehow

[lucid torrent]

I see

[raw falcon]

And that would change how, exactly?

[pulsar cobalt]

even when it wasnt

[dense prawn]

i think "a complete misunderstanding" isnt the right phrase, moreso he was fed misinformation after surviving a death sentence, and even then, its not entirely unrealistic for someone to fall for propaganda THAT hard

[dusk bronze]

i asked why yharim being delusional would make him a bad antagonist

you're not answering

[lucid torrent]

Yeah ur right

With more context that makes sense

[lucid torrent]

Because I'm having to reply to 5 other people

[valid crypt]

Spoilerous

[raw falcon]

I mean to be fair its not entirely on yharim as to why he holds the beliefs he does, yharon is a BIG part in that

[dusk bronze]

truly

[valid crypt]

Idk i think killing half the planets population over racism to gods is kinda already delusional as fuck

[raw falcon]

I think there's something to be said about a century long tragedy occuring purely out of a false notion of righteousness and the desire to return to a time you were never there fore

tl;dr

yharim is delulu as fuck

so is yharon

[valid crypt]

Dont live in the past and accept nuances of situations

[dusk bronze]

yharon is more butthurt than delusional imo

[fringe quiver]

The point of Yharim is to show what happens when you don't consider a nuance of a situation and consider things as purely black and white, refusing to accept that your point of view may be wrong and instead doubling down further and further until you're so far gone you're lost in your own deluded view of the world

[raw falcon]

I mean, yes, but there's a certain degree of delusion involved when convincing your best friend all gods are evil without exception i feel like

[fringe quiver]

That's how is ee it, anyways

[lucid torrent]

I mean now that I understand the context behind his reasoning of wanting to kill gods it doesnt matter as much anymore

[raw falcon]

and you're right tbh

[lucid torrent]

Makes sense

Thanks

[valid crypt]

The true message of calamity is trans people control slime

[dense prawn]

so true

[raw falcon]

Goozma should return tbh

[dense prawn]

my goat

[raw falcon]

Why was he even retconned actually?

[dusk bronze]

hotog

[dusk bronze]

he wasn't

[valid crypt]

The guy was never retconned the guy got slowly turned into noxus

[raw falcon]

guh? Wasn't he like, turned into noxus?

[dusk bronze]

he was just removed as a natural evolution of slimegod and noxus lore changing

it wasn't suddenly "goozma dead"

it was gradual

[raw falcon]

Fair enough

[valid crypt]

Many iterations on the guy slowly turned from goozma to noxus to new lore noxus

[raw falcon]

though i feel like the concept of goozma is really interesting for a character like slime god

[dusk bronze]

for all intents and purposes goozma is just future sg

[raw falcon]

Especially seeing as sg's entire deal is restraint in its gluttony, so it'd be cool to see what happens when it looses that restraint

[valid crypt]

Hotog goozma looks fucking amazing ngl

[dusk bronze]

the sprite is so peak

[valid crypt]

iirc writers said like plantera level

[raw falcon]

still don't get why hes this jelly squid thing tbh

[valid crypt]

True

[raw falcon]

agreed though his sprite slaps

[valid crypt]

But its cool

The entire fight is just a vibe i fuck with heavily

[raw falcon]

I just cannot fucking stand the crimson guy

[dusk bronze]

the huh

[valid crypt]

Hotog goozma

[raw falcon]

The fatass crimson slime goozma spawns

[dusk bronze]

ah

anyway uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

spoiler

[raw falcon]

I uhhh

got the yharon sprite /j

[dusk bronze]

[raw falcon]

-# seriously though some asshat leaked it

[dusk bronze]

yeah i was there

[valid crypt]

Yeah ik i saw it

[dusk bronze]

it sucked

[raw falcon]

Its in the split server

[dense prawn]

yes spoilers. did you guys know stuff is being added to this mod wow

[dense prawn]

oh thats kinda wack

[dusk bronze]

it was dia's first ever patreon spoiler too

there hasn't been one since

[raw falcon]

I mean the design is fucking peak but come on why leak that

In other news what the fuck is alpha and omega

[vivid hemlock]

shhh it doesnt exist

[dusk bronze]

exxo avalon reference

[dense prawn]

vergil

[vivid hemlock]

its a hoax made up by the government

[valid crypt]

Names for master death skeleprime heads i think

Got fucking erased

[raw falcon]

oh good

[distant raft]

thankfully taken out back

[raw falcon]

Eugh fabslop

[mystic eagle]

I just saw the full Yharon resprite

It came to me in my dream

Such majesty

[raw falcon]

Me when fabslop

[mystic eagle]

So red and orange

[dusk bronze]

mhm

very orange

funny screen filter joke

[brave star]

BeGONE THOT

Fucking cata nukes the fabslop

[pulsar cobalt]

alpha and omega? why you talking about pokemon all of a sudden?? did i miss something???

[dusk bronze]

scroll down

[brave star]

They were from exo avvalon a terraria mod

As twin skeletron primes

[mystic eagle]

We've heard about Fabslop, but what about Ozzapeak

[raw falcon]

Real

[brave star]

What would be the cinema variant

[dusk bronze]

and fab was gonna add them to master death sprime

[pulsar cobalt]

i dont see any messages

[brave star]

He did but it was deleted

[raw falcon]

Honestly though imagine if boss rush was good

[dusk bronze]

mango cinema

[brave star]

[hasty tangle]

too much effort, i fear

[brave star]

Mango is cinema ngl

[dusk bronze]

the other mango

[dense prawn]

wait is sprime normal again, haven't played master death in a while

[mystic eagle]

Alpha and Omega now hold 2 entries in the scrapped ideas list

[brave star]

I know which one (cosmatic)

[pulsar cobalt]

not yet

[brave star]

CinematicMango

That should be C.Mango’s name here

[dusk bronze]

true

[spark kiln]

oh thats easy just remove the filter and nerf scal

and increase hp of the bosses so they dont die in 2 seconds

[dusk bronze]

the filter is amazing fuck you

[brave star]

What could Heart be

[hasty tangle]

i dont think that would really make the event better tbh

making ai that is fun in br would be a lot of work

[hasty tangle]

cuz, well, not all bosses are intended to be fought postml

[pulsar cobalt]

ITS TOO

DARK

[hasty tangle]

and the bandaid solution was to just give them malice ai

[dusk bronze]

what is that

[pulsar cobalt]

🎃

[hasty tangle]

and look how that turned out

[spark kiln]

boss rush scal you cant see anything

[hasty tangle]

so i dont think that BR can ever really be made good without spending a crap ton of time making ai specifically for it

[pulsar cobalt]

scals shader tint and brs shader tint stacking

[hasty tangle]

but that time is much better spent elsewhere

[dusk bronze]

oh yeah
remove the scal filter but the regular white one can stay

[spark kiln]

just fix br scal

it sucks

[spark kiln]

its pretty fun when the bosses dont die immediatelty

dont really have a problem with the malice ai either

[raw falcon]

Also please give pbg some actual attack cues

[hasty tangle]

cuz they get shredded instantly

[raw falcon]

the sounds aren't really all that great tbh

[hasty tangle]

which is why scal is so tough in br

[dusk bronze]

same

[hasty tangle]

cuz you cant just shred her, you actually have to deal with her malice ai

[spark kiln]

nah i fought it with increase boss hp

[hasty tangle]

which was made when the scal fight was fairly different than it currently is

(ie the gigablasts exploding on blocks)

[raw falcon]

I don't remember scal being all that difficult in malice tbh

[spark kiln]

1. cant see
2. arena broken in multiplayer so you have to guess
3. she does insane damage

[raw falcon]

Though that's probably because she got overshadowed by exos for me

malice exos can go suck a dick tbh

[hasty tangle]

multiplayer doesnt count

everything is eternally broken in mp

[spark kiln]

well i fought it in multiplayer

doesnt help that the arena is only half there

[hasty tangle]

modded terraria multiplayer was, is, and always will be a buggy mess

[spark kiln]

malice 'wasnt even beaten in testing' exos

[raw falcon]

Pretty sure i just brute forced the bastards after like 600 attempts

had over 90 hours on that char

[spark kiln]

never fought them

[raw falcon]

you don't want to

[spark kiln]

i only experienced malice through trying to get yharims crystal and the ravager weapon

[distant raft]

release malice exos :(

[hasty tangle]

i do hope that malice can finally stop being discussed so much after this next update

its been gone for what, 3 years now?

[brave star]

No more malice, hate, and punching

[hasty tangle]

i think its finally time to be laid to rest in the public's conscious

[spark kiln]

malice is lost meida

[brave star]

Instead

Kindness, love and hugs

[distant raft]

dont say that people are gonna go after it

[spark kiln]

there were probably some people absolutely furious that malice got removed

[dusk bronze]

release 1.5.1.001

[brave star]

Kindness mode would end all wars existing

[hasty tangle]

i wasnt furious but i was a little sad

[spark kiln]

honestly the refight idea thing wasnt that bad

[hasty tangle]

although in retrospect it was probably nice that i wouldnt feel pressured to constantly play it

[spark kiln]

then they decided to scrap that and make it an actual difficulty

[plush carbon]

I think the words that best summarise my reaction to Malice being removed are simply
“Womp womp.”

[still bluff]

The refight idea was decent but never came close to working in it's execution

[spark kiln]

it was kinda fun fighting buffed versions of the bosses for a specific item

[dusk bronze]

except that was never the intention, it was just a hamfisted excuse as to why it sucked so fucking hard

[pseudo vector]

malice was just fucking awful lmao

[spark kiln]

doesnt really change my opinion

if it was just balanced that way it couldve been something

[still bluff]

Malice was just badly designed and added another whole difficulty mode to the host of bosses that needed fixing

Maybe if rev and death were already actually polished, malice could've stayed and been refined

[brave star]

Malice mode is awful, so now we show malice towards it in retaliation

[raw falcon]

good fucking riddance tbh

[spark kiln]

yea nah i get that it would be a nightmare to test every boss on every difficulty

[pseudo vector]

malice would have been too much to upkeep

[spark kiln]

ultimately good that its gone

imagine having it now

[raw falcon]

Probably would've required a fullscale rework

[still bluff]

Upkeep wouldn't have even been that bad if it was actually good in the first place
It just sucked

[brave star]

I think revamped future bosses would overwin the malice mode if those two were in a vote

[spark kiln]

thats like 6 different difficulty modes to test

[raw falcon]

and at that point you might as well axe it

[pseudo vector]

it's hard enough taking care of rev and death alongside classic, expert and master

[plush carbon]

Malice was such a ridiculously dumb idea to add on top of everything else when the mod’s nowhere near even complete

[raw falcon]

Wonder if fabslop maker had to be convinced to remove it or did it willingly

[lyric trellis]

Malice when death mode was rotting 💔

Then the master difficulty disaster

“I’ll test and maintain them all”

[plush carbon]

Make Death Mode good or new trashfire difficulty option
“NEW TRASHFIRE DIFFICULTY OPTION!! 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣”

[dusk bronze]

eggman button image

[lyric trellis]

And then we all know how that turned out

[raw falcon]

I genuinely fw current death eoc tbh

[plush carbon]

Make Death Mode good or another Exxo Avalon reference
“ANO-

[dusk bronze]

ANOTHER 563 REFERENCES TO EXXO AVALON 🔥 🔥 🔥

[royal garnet]

"Computer. 500 avalon refrences."

[still bluff]

EoC pre 2.0.4 was one of the best designed fights in the mod and that's frankly very sad

[dusk bronze]

oh

[brave star]

Made this in a blink of an eye

[calm ingot]

Am I the only person who misses the death mode environmental hazards

[hasty tangle]

yes

[calm ingot]

Thought so

[hasty tangle]

they were either absolutely terrible (cave darkness) or completely pointless (litearlly every single other one)

[dusk bronze]

lethal lava burn

[naive ice]

Nice

[tidal lodge]

Was that in the old crags I forget

Or just environmental stuff in death mode?

I remember still getting hit by some debuff when I was in the lava there despite having obsidian skin AND a skull upgrade

[gray night]

What’s the reason for swapping the snow ruffian and desert prowler

Just aesthetic?

[valid crypt]

Makes it less aids for rogue

And also desert already had a ranged armour

[raw falcon]

Oh damn just rememberd wrath of the ancients even existed

[inland pulsar]

Midas prime is from warframe

[spark kiln]

damn

[earnest jewel]

Is there any place I can see all publicly known upcoming features?

[pseudo vector]

here be your future content document for all your publicly known future content needs

wait i might have forgotten to unping fry

oop

[pulsar cobalt]

theres no @ so u did unping

[earnest jewel]

Thank you.

[halcyon seal]

Highkey can we rename legdeath to malice

Like I feel like most of the malice changes were basically just proto gfb changes anyways

Not saying to add those back because I think gfb is funny enough as is

I just think shitting on malice by comparing it to a joke seed is also very funny

[stuck kite]

uhhh

possible

[fathom girder]

honestly

I vibe with that heavy

[earnest jewel]

What on earth does 'un-strawberied' mean?

[dusty tinsel]

What colour is a strawberry

[earnest jewel]

Red?

[dusty tinsel]

Yes

She is too red

[earnest jewel]

Ahh, makes sense. I assume the red highlights are intended to be from brimstone illuminating her face, makes no sense for the town NPC. I thought it was referring to her dialogue.

[dusty tinsel]

It's the NPC

[dense sundial]

i didn't see any reason to resprite scal but it would have been harmless if she wasn't

Whitewashed

[valid crypt]

whaur
its late for me idk what you mean

[olive tundra]

where and wht

[earnest jewel]

In the upcoming document, they're gonna make Brimstone Witch less red.

[valid crypt]

in changelogs

[olive tundra]

oooooooooh

i didnt see that

[dusty tinsel]

Her skin has a red tone which it's not supposed to have (on the NPC)

So it's being removed

[analog helm]

red enough to power my redstone contraption?

[earnest jewel]

Because every other depiction of her has grey skin, not red.

[dusty tinsel]

Sending you to the mines

[analog helm]

yay

[dense sundial]

can you send people specifically to the fish mines

[valid crypt]

calamitas has grey skin its just that the npc sprite has weird red lighting applied to it for some reason

[dusty tinsel]

But every time you mine something it respawns and you only get the resource for 5 seconds before it also despawns

[earnest jewel]

I assume because it's the same as her rematch sprite, where it makes sense. You know, as dramatic lighting. From the flames. The Brimstone Flames. The Flames of Disaster, if you will.

[dusty tinsel]

You also can't leave the mines unless you have a resource and can't craft anything until you leave the mines

[valid crypt]

flames of calamity

[earnest jewel]

If they are adding Seacilians, will other Italians be implemented?

I'm hoping for Luigi.

I really like these Astrum Aureus plans, but I was wondering, since Draedon mentions sending mercs after Aureus gets infected, would there be plans for those mercs to appear in the same manner? Or are they just, like, really stealthy.

[fathom girder]

it's the exo mechs

[earnest jewel]

The exo-mechs get paid?!?

[fathom girder]

who said anything about getting paid

[earnest jewel]

Then why do they drop so much money?

[hasty tangle]

they are draedon's personal piggy banks

[earnest jewel]

He took the Gray Mann approach to robotics. Use money as fuel.

[inner thunder]

they only drop like 15 plat each

[earnest jewel]

Not to my memory, I was getting like 50.

[calm ingot]

Yeah 15 each, there’s 3

[analog helm]

where does eoc store it's coins,,,,

[raw falcon]

Its eyelids

[brave star]

Watercooler superboss when

[raw falcon]

buble

[brave star]

boobie

[gloomy grove]

✍️ 🔥

[buoyant pulsar]

reminds me of the way thanatos moves in wrath of the machines, with that like tail whip thing it does. you should check it out if you haven't its super cool

[fathom girder]

Thanatos burrows so quickly it can't help but flail around while getting into the ground

[buoyant pulsar]

like it actually moves in a serpentine motion

[dusty tinsel]

Worm

[brave star]

Wom

[vestal osprey]

You know what would be cool

If the mechanical bosses got an ai rework that gives them lesser versions of exos attacks

Imagine the destroyer having an attack like that

[buoyant pulsar]

like this

[inner thunder]

resprite affliction

[vestal osprey]

Props to Lucille for being able to make the part where all 3 attack actually fun

Irs the worst part in vanilla calamity and infernum didn't even attempt to try it

[late eagle]

God this is so much better to see

[dense sundial]

but infernum doesn't have that part?

[halcyon seal]

Yeah infernum just skips all 3 mechs at once

That way it can have new and inventive ways to make exos unfun

[dull heart]

Yeah my system could do something like this

I wonder how Lucille did it

[halcyon seal]

I do really like the idea of worm bosses moving like actual worms