calamity-update-talk

[rich ginkgo]

how about we make tank the ONLY option

delete everything else

now there’s no more constant competition and need for balance

cha ching

[lapis oak]

make everything has RDR

no more balancing needed

[pine vortex]

Add tank as a class, with new weapons doing tank damage. Tank damage scales with defense

[cinder hearth]

On the other hand that does mean they need to nerf defensive accessories more than they nerf enemy damage, otherwise tanking builds gain a net buff

As damage gets lower, defense gets stronger, because it's flat

[rich ginkgo]

melee^2

[misty wren]

yeah thats a given

[cinder hearth]

Oh also Regen goes the same as defense, since it's also flat

[lapis oak]

we'll just have to see

[eager sequoia]

Just make defense not flat then…

[lapis oak]

still a long road to go

[eager sequoia]

Just like damage

[cinder hearth]

That's called damage reduction

And it exists

[misty wren]

tanking accessories and warding were always going to take the brunt of the hit

[rich ginkgo]

bosses deal 1.25x more damage against players with over 300 defense

[lapis oak]

😨

[pine vortex]

Post ml bosses permanently reduce player defense on hit, capable of reducing it to negative

Just don't get hit

[cinder hearth]

They could probably do something like a minimum damage threshold maybe? Like you can't reduce the damage of a hit below a certain amount of it

Idk just throwing ideas at the wall

[eager sequoia]

I mean I feel like it could be possible to make all defense act like damage reduction capping out at 90%

Just having the ability to have flat reduction is strong in the first place

[cinder hearth]

90% is too high IMO because that would turn an 800 damage hit into an 80 damage hit

Random example I mean

You wouldn't be able to get THAT much defense

[misty wren]

we already HAVE damage reduction

[lapis oak]

Terraria and its stats am I right

[misty wren]

its just ass because of dr scaling being probably way too harsh

[cinder hearth]

Make every boss have the "max hits and after that you die" thing scal had in old versions

[pine vortex]

Hit cap...

I do find it strange that the terraria devs found it necessary to increase defense effectiveness alongside increasing boss damage for harder difficulties. If the idea was to make hits do less damage, then just...don't increase the damage stats as much

You get weird interactions like where lava is actually LESS threatening at higher difficulties

[lapis oak]

it's because of Fab

[calm ingot]

This is a vanilla thing

[pine vortex]

Yeah I was referring to the vanilla behavior

[misty wren]

yeah its because of fab

smh

[lapis oak]

made bosses too hard -> decrease stats -> increase defensive items -> bosses too easy -> increase stats -> increase defensive items

it's just keep going

[calm ingot]

Everything bad that happened ever is because of fab actually

[pine vortex]

Fab bombed orphanages, I saw it on the news

[vivid hemlock]

mhm fabsol killed my great grandma

[lapis oak]

who u 😨

[pine vortex]

I bet fab doesn't wash his hands after he uses the bathroom

[misty wren]

the great grandchild of a woman fabsol killed

[lapis oak]

tragic

[dusty tinsel]

She is actually alive

That was a duplicate

[hard copper]

i have an idea to balance defense, what if for every point of defense you have you take 0.75 more damage?

[calm ingot]

Whar

[velvet egret]

Wow, they are making it easier to newbies

They nerf the DR of the bosses

Also, didn't know Astral Infection can reduce our damage

[lapis oak]

only regular enemies and boss minions

[still bluff]

I think this would make defence really balanced yea

Maybe make it 1 point more in master? can't have it too easy

[lean relic]

they killed him
peak

[velvet egret]

What is that

[calm ingot]

I think having more than 3 defense should make every hit instantly kill you actually

[velvet egret]

Never seen that before

[lapis oak]

Master+ minion for EoC

[velvet egret]

Seriously?

[lapis oak]

ye

[calm ingot]

Bountiful harvest moment

[still bluff]

Red wandering eye

[velvet egret]

Bruh those Master AI changes were complete ass

I thought the funny Skeletron Prime was the worst one, this one is tied for me

[calm ingot]

How do rare items like fishron wings and malachite work in the boss drop shimmer cycle?

[lapis oak]

not affected I think

shimmer chain only applies to those 33% weapons that will always drop at least 1 per kill

[velvet egret]

What's with removing the materials from the Evil2 bosses

I guess there just bloat

[lapis oak]

they're of no uses anymore

boss drops can now be shimmer chained and spawners are crafted with Aerialite

[calm ingot]

Needing drops from evil2 bosses to craft the summon items for evil2 bosses always seemed stupid

[still bluff]

They served no purpose except for crafting the post boss weapons (can be boss drops) and making a boss summon that was locked behind the boss

[lapis oak]

Fluffy I already said it, make Cyst spawns after player's wakes so they will never miss them

[velvet egret]

There was a life regen cap?

[lapis oak]

[lean relic]

kill evil1 bosses, craft stuff, kill evil2 bosses

[still bluff]

What everywhere you walk one spawns

[calm ingot]

This seems to happen already

[lapis oak]

make them spawn on top of the block the player is standing on

with like cool little vfx and sfx

[vivid hemlock]

every letter kiri types out spawns a cyst irl

[lapis oak]

😨

I'd die...

[lean relic]

700 - Changed the Dark Blue rarity to Cosmic Purple, and the Violet rarity to Burnished Auric, both featuring special text effects.
millions must auric rarity

[vivid hemlock]

im so glad rarities arent just different shades of the same color anymore

at least for those 2

[lapis oak]

it's kind hard to read dark color texts

hopefully the special effects can mitigate that

[summer shore]

Cancerous rodent

[lapis oak]

what I do 😢

[summer shore]

Be a rat

[hard copper]

bloody worm food when its just worm food but bloody

[young yacht]

is infernum official or its like a fan made

[lyric trellis]

It's not official yeah

[dusty tinsel]

Be you

I think

It's sad that you get bullied for this

You can't help it

I feel like an evil person now anyway

[serene parrot]

finally a batch of patch notes with nothing i outright hate

[surreal glacier]

Does change 693 apply to rare drops as well

10% drop chances have always pissed me off so bad 😭

[lapis oak]

no

[surreal glacier]

fuck

[lapis oak]

gambling is saved for the best part

you're welcome

[surreal glacier]

Wulfrum Drone change seems sick actually

Like an alternative to Brittle Star Staff

Slightly less defense but you get extra life regen

[fringe quiver]

oh changelogs

was eeping...

Fairly small changelogs this time, seem to be mostly killing some Fabsolian changes

[mystic eagle]

Ancient Bone Dust remains as the sole 1.1.7.855 material. It should be put out of its misery

[pseudo vector]

many QoL changes

making the game more fun at last :D

[molten grove]

bone dust passed 2 deletion votes
its earned its freedom ig

[plush carbon]

Why

[hexed basalt]

this is terrible news

it lives for 30 years

[cunning sequoia]

survived 2 snaps

[hard copper]

just merge bone ash and bone dust iirc

[hazy pine]

How to fix calamity mod
1: replace everything with king vultures so I can infinitely kill them over and over again

[hard copper]

king vulture yharon with chimney canopy threat as boss music

[heavy glen]

Why cant we have wulfrum drone self destruct

[high scaffold]

I want to see how updated rarities look

[wind sage]

Is there still no approximate date for the new update?

[hushed hazel]

There is not

[pseudo vector]

there is not and there will not be release date for the update

[azure oak]

oh glorious day

new changelogs

[pseudo vector]

crazy that we've reached 700 total recorded changes for the public log

[azure oak]

true

[clear compass]

It’s even crazier that we are counting more to come

Biggest update in a while

[pseudo vector]

biggest update ever even

[clear compass]

the nefarious draedon update

[pseudo vector]

there's so much more internally that we haven't posted in the public changelogs

[clear compass]

Oh damn

Fire

Every day I am a little more hyped for sso

As your generic melee enthusiast, I can’t wait to try out the hellkite rework

Or some of the other stuff like the reworks for the pillar weapons

(Forgot the name)

[bold rivet]

ooh expert/master toggles

nice

[azure oak]

here's one chart

[high scaffold]

we are not getting this update until 2030

[bold rivet]

finally i can get the funny ship mount without being murdered by a single blue slime eighteen times

[clear compass]

and finally some much needed work on the master revengance ai and so on

[bold rivet]

wait the essences are being removed?

huh i missed that

or w/ever their name is

[clear compass]

They are also removing murky paste

Will that be replaced or just one less needed component for a few items?

[bold rivet]

wait i'm so behind lol since when are they removing old power cell

[pseudo vector]

this is the largest update to not add a new major boss to the mod and the largest update period in terms of sheer content and changes

[bold rivet]

i mean fair enough you can get it from enemies anyway

[high scaffold]

I can already sense every calamity youtuber making at least 10 videos on this update

[bold rivet]

what block is that at the end of the "resprited" section?

[azure oak]

other chart

[pseudo vector]

they're gonna need either a handful of videos to cover everything or one massive video to cover the sheer amount of stuff

[fringe crypt]

BOSS ITEMS CAN FINALLY BE FUCKING SHIMMERED OH THANK GOD

[pseudo vector]

boss item shimmering might be one of my personal favourite changes

[high scaffold]

dust books are finaly getting reworked

[fringe crypt]

No seriously its actually amazing

Its so annoying that you play a specific class then have to fight a boss a billion times before you can get a single weapon

[pseudo vector]

frost and flare bolt are both cooler now
frigidflash bolt might genuinely be one of my favourite item reworks in the whole update

[fringe crypt]

(30 yharon fights before i got a single chicken cannon on infernum)

[lapis oak]

we reached 100+

double the playtime for this one

there're so much weapon reworks in BH

[bold rivet]

wait this is so true

[queen umbra]

I am very confused
I'm pretty stubid

[bold rivet]

finally

[lapis oak]

but then you look at SSO and it's XD

[fringe crypt]

Theres a specific order you can shimmer boss items now

[pseudo vector]

basically if you get a boss' melee drop and you want its mage drop, you can use the shimmer pool to change it into that mage drop

[fringe crypt]

^

[queen umbra]

ahhh that's cool pretty nice change

[pseudo vector]

there will be a specific order in which it'll be tho

so depending on what you want you'll have to shimmer it the according number of times to cycle those drops

[high scaffold]

its melee > ranged > mage > summoner > rogue > melee

[bold rivet]

why is it always that order

it's funny

like that's always how people list the classes

[pseudo vector]

[still bluff]

that's the real order

[lean relic]

That order started in vanilla terraria wiki

[high scaffold]

you start with copper short sword (melee) then you can craft a bow (ranged) then find wand of sparking (mage) summoner for the most of time was starting much later then other classes, and rogue is rogue

they are in order from simplest to most advanced in vanila with rogue thrown in the end of the line

[spark kiln]

violence left click was changed?

[azure oak]

whoops

thx for pointing that out

there

[pseudo vector]

oh yeah apathanull

[rose radish]

Isn't it also the order of class emblem shimmering cycle

[pseudo vector]

mages are gonna love that one

[spark kiln]

it’s already been shown hasn’t it

all the meld ones

[azure oak]

calamity 2

[pseudo vector]

i remember using it for the first time when i was playing on the dev build when i was suggested to pick it up and i got fucking jumpscared by it

its so cool

[inner thunder]

why did they rework bladecrest oathsword

[azure oak]

because it's boring

[inner thunder]

and all providence drops 🤔

[inner thunder]

it's cool wym

[lapis oak]

because they're boring

[pseudo vector]

because they were boring

as someone who has used new purge guzzler it is a night and day difference

[inner thunder]

and pulse pistol and tracking disk

[pseudo vector]

its hilarious now

[inner thunder]

what did they do to Luxor's gift

[pine vortex]

Is pulse pistol still LOUD AS FUCK or did that get turned down

[lapis oak]

everything you curious about are all because they're boring, either the visuals or gameplays

or both

[inner thunder]

pristine fury was cool

even holy collider

i mean yeah they're basic

but like basic is good sometimes

[pseudo vector]

trust me the new weapon reworks are massive improvements on their old incarnations

[lapis oak]

Holy Collider is so ass 💔

[inner thunder]

ok I hope so

[lapis oak]

2017 projectiles spam

[inner thunder]

yeah tbh it's not good at all for dog

[pseudo vector]

and i can attest that mages are eating GOOD in this update

[lapis oak]

I'm not talking about the weapon effectiveness

[inner thunder]

did they touch mana flower

[lapis oak]

it looks boring

[inner thunder]

also I think they reworked brimflame armor

man I wanna play mage now

[pseudo vector]

mage is a fun class

play it in sso tho

when it drops

you'll have a lot more fun

[inner thunder]

I'll have time to do all classes a few more times before sso

[iron dew]

is there a reason the pristine fury right click is being reworked i thought the mist spray was pretty cool

[lapis oak]

Xyk found a cooler way to make it feels more legendary

because every legendary are getting big glow ups with new lore coming for them

[inner thunder]

it's like the only viable ranger weapon for ceaseless void

[lapis oak]

we're not talking about how strong the weapon is here

[inner thunder]

it matters

[pseudo vector]

tbf some of the weapon reworks have made them viable in new ways

[inner thunder]

yeah I expected that but idk if anything will replace pristine fury

[pseudo vector]

i have some funny stories when it comes to new purge guzzler and ceaseless void

[inner thunder]

for ceaseless

[icy stump]

What will happen with Master Mode drops in Revengeance Mode?

[lapis oak]

ok but we're not talking about it

🫠

[inner thunder]

I am talking about it

[inner thunder]

i thought all master mode drops already drop in rev now

[lapis oak]

and we weren't so talk about it to yourself

[steady sun]

pretty sure they stay the same

[icy stump]

Yes, but in the SSO?

[inner thunder]

it'll be the same yeah

[pseudo vector]

yeah they'll still drop in rev

[icy stump]

Okey thanks!

[hexed basalt]

Triacris is best rework

[lapis oak]

whatever you say Done

[pseudo vector]

relics dropping in rev is so goated

[bold rivet]

why does it have such a long name

"Triactis' True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might"

[pseudo vector]

because its funny

[hexed basalt]

wow very dismissive

[bold rivet]

true

change it to "Triactis's True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might" imo

[hexed basalt]

ask the dev probably

[lapis oak]

🥺

[pseudo vector]

i forget who its dedicated to

who was it dedicated to again

[bold rivet]

triactis

[hexed basalt]

I forget who half the dedications are to

[pseudo vector]

i don't know if i ever interacted with that guy tbh

[hexed basalt]

nanoblack is ozzatron, karma staff is lucille, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[spark kiln]

isn’t it not called karma staff

[hexed basalt]

roxcalibur is javyz,

idk but its kinda obvious what it means probably

[pseudo vector]

i don't have a dev item yet and i need to come up with ideas

i had a few coursing through my head

[inner thunder]

road roller

rogue weapon

[hexed basalt]

I know what I want my dev item to be roughly I think but I've been back for 2 weeks so it's too early for that

[pseudo vector]

one of which is very much an inside joke with a friend group that really likes a particular yoyo

[lapis oak]

all yoyos that will ever exist in Calamity Mod will be dedicated contents

[pseudo vector]

i will do a yoyo playthrough one day

for shits and giggles

[bold rivet]

yoyos are funny

the epitome of "melee but really it's ranged"

i love it

other than projectile swords ig

[spark kiln]

dubstep gun

[pseudo vector]

oh my god lmao

[granite smelt]

😭

[bold rivet]

make calamity into a rhythym game

[pseudo vector]

FUCKING 2017????

[bold rivet]

click on the beat or deal 0 damage

[pseudo vector]

bro

[spark kiln]

he has such funny messages

[hexed basalt]

thats like 20 presidents ago

[granite smelt]

the current president is obama still

trust me

[spark kiln]

this kills me

[pseudo vector]

ah hell nah don't remind me that 2017 was 8 years ago

i'll feel old

[gloomy grove]

[fringe quiver]

2014 was two years ago.

feel that.

[thorny glacier]

Funni image but why there’s no item dedicated to dok? did he simply rejected that idea?

[hushed hazel]

Realizing 2016 is just three months away

[spark kiln]

bros too humble

[pseudo vector]

he didn't want one

[hushed hazel]

He didn’t want one

If he did he would have one

[thorny glacier]

Terrible:/

[fringe quiver]

What do you mean terrible

[hushed hazel]

I don’t see why that’s terrible

[lapis oak]

what do you mean terrible?

[granite smelt]

i mean

[hushed hazel]

He simply did not care

[fringe quiver]

Dog question mark image

[granite smelt]

its their decision to have one or not

[pseudo vector]

technically his dedicated items are the music boxes and his inclusion in the thank you painting so

yeah

[spark kiln]

dubstep gun was such an ass idea he decided to never have a dev weapon to avoid any possibility of the dubstep gun being real…

[hushed hazel]

Dw I got you

[granite smelt]

[hushed hazel]

[gloomy grove]

wait this ones fire

[fringe quiver]

yeah!

[granite smelt]

or this one

yea

[thorny glacier]

his signature hammer thingy that his avatar has would be easily my favorite dedicate item in the mod

[spark kiln]

btw at be time his only calamity songs were yharon and cryogen

very dubstep

[pseudo vector]

that's crazy

[thorny glacier]

But oh well😢

[spark kiln]

replied to the wrong image but whatever

[fringe quiver]

If i was a developer my dev item would be a singular block that is a slightly offcolor mud block

[gloomy grove]

muddier mud block???

[fringe quiver]

its called slightly offcolor mud

[gloomy grove]

so real

[pseudo vector]

i've had a handful of ideas for my dev item

[spark kiln]

hammer?

[stuck kite]

dok had a dev item concept at some point i wonder if its still around

#458432092301295618 message

[hushed hazel]

I would have a hammed Burger (capitalization important) with the tooltip “signature meal of renowned chef and former child Haggbart Slark”

[stuck kite]

wild

[thorny glacier]

hammer. lemme search his coffee break videos

[spark kiln]

can we see

[stuck kite]

it is a hammer

[pseudo vector]

it was a hammer called "common sense"

[spark kiln]

LMAO

[hushed hazel]

That’s pretty good

[thorny glacier]

simple but cool design

[cunning sequoia]

saints row 4 was a game

[pulsar crow]

Fishbowl meta???

[azure oak]

add more calamity

[dusk bronze]

no

[fathom girder]

Fishbowl abyssal diving suit meta

[thorny glacier]

add calamity 2

[azure oak]

man i sure wished there was a mod with a calamity in it

[thorny glacier]

real

[hushed hazel]

“Man I wish someone would make a mod” Garry:

[fathom girder]

Nintendo: >:(

[viral merlin]

Who's Garry and why is he modding

[hard hearth]

the humble garry:

[cobalt wharf]

fargo:

[azure oak]

ares

[fathom girder]

Who?

Is this a new biss

[dusk bronze]

biss

[azure oak]

yes it is mech boss 2

[stuck kite]

crusty

[hard hearth]

2

[azure oak]

exo mechs rework will finaly give ares the weapons everybody's been wanting

a pair of bows

[cobalt wharf]

man i was hoping hed have yoyos

[azure oak]

no that's for thanatos

[twin juniper]

Give ares phase 2 where he turn into optimistic prime

With all guns turned into melee version

[viral merlin]

Exo mechs rework
They all fuse into a single boss at the end and solo you

[azure oak]

thanatos was secretly a massive yoyo string all along

[dark scroll]

Why do you keep posting photos of Ares????

[azure oak]

because we dont actually have much to talk about and i've been doing it for a while

[distant raft]

what if ares was smart and could swap out his weapons on the fly

[fathom girder]

He should be smart

[azure oak]

what is this, some kind of wrath of the machines?

[hard hearth]

if theres nothing to talk about then dont talk..

very shrimple

[cunning sequoia]

thats true

shut the server down

[hard hearth]

channel getting shut down for the time being

[ivory nymph]

holy shit they killed calamity loot swap

[cunning sequoia]

[mystic eagle]

No

[azure oak]

rest in piss spoiler chat

[distant raft]

what if the full server was killed

[fathom girder]

Every other chat is scary

[halcyon seal]

Why doesn’t Draedon just give him a gun

Is he stupid?

[fathom girder]

The cool people are here

[mystic eagle]

Talk about the DoG rework being caused by Byleth's Side Special

[fathom girder]

...was it actually

[mystic eagle]

Yes

[fathom girder]

I thought it only inspired the gilded probuscis rework

Tf

[halcyon seal]

Proboscis rework > test on dog > hey I have new ideas for dog

[fathom girder]

Oh my

[halcyon seal]

I think that’s how it went

[fathom girder]

Doze you madman

[lapis oak]

?

DoG rework came first tho

[mystic eagle]

It was only shown first

[lapis oak]

you mean addition to the rework?

[mystic eagle]

The SSO rework is what we were referring to

[azure oak]

non-patreon server peasants have to wait for the update to get to see anything ever

[lapis oak]

oh I see

I just backread a lil bit

[lean relic]

That's it I'm posting forgotten spoiler

[white aurora]

ardor blossom star looks cool

[naive ice]

Is that a whip

[lapis oak]

this isn't very forgotten

[white aurora]

faust is very whip

[stone zephyr]

lots of dust

[lapis oak]

this is more forgotten

[stone zephyr]

woah peak

[lean relic]

holy SHIT I forgot about that

[naive ice]

HOLY

[vivid hemlock]

dear cod that one is old

[lapis oak]

what u mean I still remember it like it was yesterday

or last week...

last month 😨

[lapis oak]

the Wind Blade hitting with the back of its blade is kinda weird

Imma give it that

because the design looks like a curved sword and I don't think it should be using the back blade to deal some real damage

[dense sundial]

i heard a while back that this was an issue for how certain sword sprites should be designed, like Earth line, to have them make physical sense when hitting with both sides

but... just flip the sprite on the upswing? i don't see why that's a problem?

[lapis oak]

This is a very old clip

Might got changed idk

Have to ask Ennway for that one

[spark kiln]

i’ve never seen this before

[lapis oak]

That was from last year

Kinda old

It's when the Skytide Dragoon sprite just got revealed

[spark kiln]

i don’t know what skytide dragoon is

[lapis oak]

Melee Spear for Weaver, replacing Storm Dragoon

[spark kiln]

where’s the sprite

[lapis oak]

It got a newer one

[dull heart]

None of that is dust

[dull heart]

I should post a full video

[lapis oak]

it was the left then became the right

[spark kiln]

never seen either of those lol

the right doesn’t look like spear

[dull heart]

I have never seen the right one

[fringe quiver]

Tobias made it

[dull heart]

the left one is what's in dev right now

[lapis oak]

Tobias sprite

[fringe quiver]

I love the new one but i think it could be Pointier

[spark kiln]

is it an official sprite

[dull heart]

however the left one also looks cosmilite

[fringe quiver]

Other than that it's kind of peak though

[spark kiln]

it looks like a staff

[twin juniper]

I thought the left one was a fake thing

[spark kiln]

doesn’t look nice to use as a spear at all

[lapis oak]

maybe it's a throwing spear

not like the poking one

[spark kiln]

left still looks better for that

[dull heart]

I have also never seen this huh

[lapis oak]

[dull heart]

its really not an unsolvable issue

[lapis oak]

weren't u like busy last year

[boreal edge]

Curse of trapped on a branch

[dull heart]

my base projectile solves that automatically

[lapis oak]

ye maybe

[dull heart]

Sprites being unsuited for custom melee swings is entirely fake news I'm ngl

[dull heart]

some sprites are easier than others absolutely

[lapis oak]

like all of these are maybe

[dull heart]

but they all can work

[lapis oak]

and still wips I think

[lean relic]

Dragon POW

[spark kiln]

massive downgrade for stellar contempt

and dragon pow looks less readable as a flail

[boreal edge]

Carnage and Stellar Contempt were rejected I believe

Don't remember the others

[lapis oak]

? the current one doesn't look like a flail either

[spark kiln]

flail is the wrong thing and i can’t be bothered

old one looks more like what it is

[lapis oak]

Chinese dragon?

[spark kiln]

the weapon

colors are better tho

[dull heart]

Dragon Pow is a launched flail in terraria terms

[spark kiln]

yea

[lapis oak]

oh you mean that

[dull heart]

beyond that idk it doesn't really read as much of anything

[fringe quiver]

I don't think either of the dragon pow sprites readh much as flails because theyre dragons actually

[spark kiln]

.

[fringe quiver]

yeah

a dragon

which both of them look like

[spark kiln]

that’s not what i’m talking about

the weapon itself

not the dragon part

[dull heart]

if I did not know how the weapon works looking at Dpow I would have no idea what it did

For either of them

[fringe quiver]

yeah

[spark kiln]

old one has nicer perspective and shape and stuff

[lapis oak]

Dragon Pow rework is gonna be awesome

[dense sundial]

it is!

[spark kiln]

it’s getting reworked?

[dense sundial]

no idea where that idea came from

[lapis oak]

Ye I think they have the permission

[spark kiln]

cool

current one is projectile vomit

[lapis oak]

Tringle talked about it being a 1.4 flail style

[dull heart]

I think it's just annoying to solve with xyk's style of swings probably

[dense sundial]

obviously i'm biased in saying this but i still think the mod with the best "useStyle1" is fargo's souls

[dull heart]

what does souls even do

[dense sundial]

even then, i and others have nitpicks

[dull heart]

honestly I should look into doing custom swing animations without projectiles

[lapis oak]

Souls Goodman

[dense sundial]

if a melee weapon is useStyle1 and does not have any tool power, Eternity Mode automatically reworks it to alternate between a downward arc and an upward arc with (imo) pretty good easing
if the weapon's useTime is at least 20, the width of its swinging arc scales with its useTime, which both looks and works better on "heavy" weapons

base souls only applies it to vanilla useStyle1s but DLC extends it to calamity useStyle1s

i'll go get a recording

[lapis oak]

Recording

[dense sundial]

also the usestyle rework can actually aim at the cursor which is automatically a gigantic buff

[stone zephyr]

eternity melee usestyle rework is one of the best things ever

[dull heart]

oh yeah

I have been considering that for calamity

didn't know souls did it

ofc I'll do it better obviously

[dense sundial]

ok buddy

[lapis oak]

Real?

[dull heart]

(still has no idea how souls does it)

I do know how I'd do it though

[dusk bronze]

then do it

[dull heart]

ok

(I can't I'm on vacation)

[dense sundial]

i'm not sure if universally reworking a very common usestyle is within the purview of things calamity would do

[dull heart]

make it only happen on rev+ problem solved

[dense sundial]

not that i would mind all too much ig

[stone zephyr]

usestyle1 makes me cry

[dense sundial]

FARGO ECONOMY KEEPS ON WINNING 🗣️

[dull heart]

at minimum it could apply to all the calamity useStyle1 weapons

[iron dew]

why'd the gif get so large wtf

[dull heart]

even if not everything

[lapis oak]

Calamity usestyle1 😨

[dusk bronze]

it's like the base movement stat tweaks, it's fixing a vanilla design flaw so horrible it's incompatible with the mod

[lapis oak]

Horror economy

[dense sundial]

please do have a calamity-weapon-exclusive usestyle1 replacement that would be great

[azure oak]

add it as yet another toggle

[dusk bronze]

FIVE BILLION CONFIGS

[stone zephyr]

the toggle being do you want better melee weapons

[lapis oak]

On it champ

[iron dew]

i agree balance be damned

[lapis oak]

3 seconds

[dull heart]

well now

when I get home I guess I need to look up Fargo's swings

just so I know what I have to beat

[dense sundial]

i'm about to record it

[dull heart]

oh cool

[dense sundial]

also this isn't about competition mang

[iron dew]

^

[lapis oak]

Doze must beat everything

[dull heart]

shh

[stone zephyr]

silly fun competition where its all silly and not real competition

[dull heart]

yeah I actually do not care about beating other implementations

I do care about making mine the best I possibly can though

[dusk bronze]

thats good

[lapis oak]

I'm in a life and death situation with my competitors right now

[dense sundial]

bear speech bubble

[vivid hemlock]

dw im taking your lungs

[lapis oak]

😨 ???

[dull heart]

just so happens that often means beating the competition when I can

[dusk bronze]

real

[dense sundial]

what's the file size limit in a max-boosted server

[dull heart]

100mb

[stone zephyr]

500 maybe?

oh damn

[dull heart]

maybe 500 with nitro

idk

[dense sundial]

i'll aim for 50 then

[dull heart]

ain't no nitro

[dusty tinsel]

Kiri was given another pair of lungs

Do not ask where I got them

[dull heart]

old duke

[lapis oak]

Do not give the Old Duke's lungs

Fuck

F u

[dusty tinsel]

Enjoy old Duke's lungs

Now you old

[vivid hemlock]

🎉

[lapis oak]

Do not mpreg me!!!

[dusk bronze]

the lungs that make you old

[vivid hemlock]

enjoy your lung cancer buddy

[stone zephyr]

how unfortunate

[dusk bronze]

doze "i nearly mpregged this out of reflex" zoze

[dusty tinsel]

Stage 10 lung cancer

[balmy plover]

Glad to see Calamity's still going :D

[twin juniper]

guys was the devil’s devastation rework vid actually real

[stone zephyr]

idk let me see it

[lapis oak]

Ye

500 meters sword

[dusk bronze]

i've seen it in patreon so i'll be able to confirm if it's the same one

[twin juniper]

I had a thought that this might mean old lord claymore would be slow and hard hitting sword (no more dash) and oathsword being a thrown weapon

[wicked pewter]

why the fuck is it called that is that a limbus company refference ?!

thats fucked up

[lapis oak]

Shade made it so big chance

[vivid hemlock]

ardor blossom star

[wicked pewter]

thats so evil

[dusk bronze]

yep it's the same one

confirmed real

[valid crypt]

its insane

[lapis oak]

why is it the low quality vid...

I posted the high quality one below

[dusk bronze]

bc i didn't read

this is also real but idk if it's outdated or not

[valid crypt]

Thought it got scrapped

[vivid hemlock]

kiri gets her information from hymns and mantras so half the time its wrong

[lapis oak]

WHAT?

who is her

also that concept is scrapped

[valid crypt]

Kiriwhite is a red paste on the floor due to failing the quick time event

[dusk bronze]

:(((((

[fringe quiver]

im gloo

[stone zephyr]

mborf

[valid crypt]

Gloomborf

[late eagle]

Adding π electrons to kiri

[lapis oak]

I did nothing!

[dull heart]

Yes

Shade named it after limbus

[wicked pewter]

amen

glory to limbus company 🫡

[brave star]

What is the most evil changelog

[lapis oak]

step stool gives crit chance when you stand on it

instantly broke the Calamity dev team

[dull schooner]

does this mean burgers drop again from enemies

[lapis oak]

ye

[brave star]

Eats hamborgar

[dull schooner]

fuck yeah 🔥🔥🔥

[brave star]

Tastes like borger

[brave star]

Revives u afterwards

[white aurora]

cat

[mystic eagle]

I read that as Revives u backwards

[distant raft]

i went to burger store to buy burger

but when i got home to eat it

it wasnt normal burger

it was evil burger

[arctic patrol]

uh

[mystic eagle]

694 - Wearing a Fish Bowl now activates underwater effects.

Also Malice has now been truly buried

rest in peace

[arctic patrol]

this invalidates water arenas

but the problem being is your not swimming and it replaces a helmet

[brave star]

[dry whale]

rest in piss

[arctic patrol]

what an absolute shit change

i missed having over 100 fireballs on screen

[fringe quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ardor-blossom-star-faust-faust-goodnight-good-night-project-moon-gif-4852863778056374945

[cobalt wharf]

water arenas invalidate fish bowl

wisdom

[lean relic]

are Necromancer and Diabolist telegraphs gone

[dense sundial]

do they have telegraphs?

i know current cal removes all of necromancer's projectile extraUpdates as a shortcut to making it dodgeable, but that's not really a telegraph

[dense sundial]

isn't the sound also taken from limbus (it's too loud because it's completely unchanged) or am i remembering that wrong

[lean relic]

In sso yes but that changelog was before fab so idk now

[dense sundial]

ok i literally had this video sitting around for close to an hour how did i burn that time so easily

[dense sundial]

@dull heart

[dusk bronze]

that looks goofy

[cobalt wharf]

and usestyle1 doesn’t?

[dusk bronze]

didn't say that

something something pancakes waffles

[twin juniper]

It look more funny on holy collider

[dense sundial]

it's not really souls's problem that holy collider is too big

maybe dlc could nerf some weapon sizes if it still needs to by the time it gets around to post-ml?

[stuck kite]

i think the goofy part is that it pendulums with 0 delay

[dense sundial]

yea there's no "physical cooldown" on it

i heard that complaint before and i agree

[stuck kite]

yeah apart from that its completely natural

[dense sundial]

i totally get that there are bad comparisons / false dilemmas but the entire point of this usestyle is to be better than the vanilla one

[fathom girder]

Moveset changes that buff weapons are cringe

[dense sundial]

it would be a bad comparison if we were looking at terraria broadswords and, i don't know, elden ring halberds

[grave geyser]

????

[dense sundial]

do elaborate

[fathom girder]

Like, there's a Chinese mod that lets you change the vanilla swing animation on all swords

But the way it's done makes it so that all slow heavy hitter swords break the entire game utterly and completely

Because it makes the moveset faster

[twin juniper]

yeah Holy collider with tungsten ench hit different

[hushed hazel]

I think the default broadsword swing would feel about a gorillion times better if the actual swing was much faster but had a cool down so the attack rate stayed the same

[dense sundial]

give or take a gorousand

what kind of unit is a gorillion anyway

[hushed hazel]

Up to reader interpretation

Other than “it’s big”

[dense sundial]

anyway yeah that's the idea i've gathered and i think elden ring animations nail it

i don't reference elden ring for everything ever but game good

dagger swings, for example, have clear but still short windups/stops and very fast follow-throughs

[hushed hazel]

Can actually confirm for once

Game good

[dense sundial]

are you gonna do dlc

[hushed hazel]

If I can ever stop being constantly walloped by mohg yes

That’s the plan

[dense sundial]

even with the dlc existing mohg is my goat

he's uniquely difficult yeah

[dense sundial]

okay but the eternity broadsword usestyle doesn't affect speed at all

if you're still referring to it, anyway

[hushed hazel]

I don’t think they were

[dense sundial]

a

i guess it was just a little non sequitur

[fathom girder]

It was a rant

[dense sundial]

understandable, have a great day

[hazy quest]

so wait how are you gonna summon Hekate on GFB now, is it just going to use the Bloody Vein like the original Hypnos hoax said?

[white aurora]

ok but hekate being impossible to summon without like

cheating

would be really funny i think

[stuck kite]

Evoke

[white aurora]

oh

[dry whale]

hipnos is canon to calamity

[rich ginkgo]

absolutely vile

quite rancid indeed

some could even call it putrid

[brave star]

Invoke

[silk terrace]

whys dragonfolly getting moved down to post evil boss from post moonlord?

or was someone telling me misinfo

[prisma cipher]

I’m really excited for the wulfrum controller rework

Finally desert scourge summon will maybe be overthrown

[grave geyser]

...by an earlier in progression summon

[dull heart]

for sword animations I honestly have just kinda

made it up as I went

even gilded Proboscis was entirely making it up as I went except for the general vibe of the swing and the frame data

[spark kiln]

that wouldn’t be good

[prisma cipher]

It would not

It’s probably going to be good for less time tho

But it’s still 3 defense and 1 life regen per drone

Which is

What

Like

9 defense and 3 life regen max

Without extra minions from accessories and such

[dull heart]

keep in mind that you're giving up 3 minions worth of dps

[grave geyser]

^

[spark kiln]

u only have like 3 minion slots at that point

[grave geyser]

2

[prisma cipher]

I want my life regen maxing

[prisma cipher]

Not if you’re stinky nerd like me

[spark kiln]

post ds u can get 3

[grave geyser]

with voltaic sure

but like

[spark kiln]

but what

[prisma cipher]

Pre ds you can get 3

[dull heart]

that's a minion accesory

[prisma cipher]

Table, potion, normal

[dull heart]

Pre ds you get 3 via suicide

[prisma cipher]

Ya

[grave geyser]

at that point you're just playing summoner

[dull heart]

Or via flinx mixing

[dull heart]

not necessarily

suicide for table is not that outrageous

[grave geyser]

oh you mean

yeah fair

[dull heart]

especially if you're also going for alch station

[naive ice]

I hate flinx so much

[dull heart]

L

[grave geyser]

flinx :)

[naive ice]

It’s mostly against the enemy

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SO RARE

[grave geyser]

also this
ominous ass message

[naive ice]

I HAVE SEEN MORE CYAN BEETLES THAN FLINX

[desert garnet]

go lower

[grave geyser]

they dont spawn on snow or ice

try near the edge of the biome

[dull heart]

I genuinely have no idea what they mean

[prisma cipher]

Don’t forget shadow key

[naive ice]

WHY! THATS 80% OF THE GOD DAMN BIOME

[grave geyser]

bugged or something

[dull heart]

Bc they spawn at biome border

[dull heart]

Nah it's not a bug

[grave geyser]

oh

funny

[naive ice]

WHY ARE FLINX SUCH ASSHOLES

[grave geyser]

incredible

[dull heart]

simply go to the right place to farm them

They're not rare

[prisma cipher]

Just go up to planetoid and use the ore you get to make snow biome farm

[gloomy grove]

they can, just abit lower than any other block

if you hang around the edges of the biome or around a cabin you usually get enough within 10 minutes

[dull heart]

uh

oh I guess maybe 1.4.4 changed it

[gloomy grove]

ye

[keen yarrow]

guys this IS distortion update, yes distortion TODAY

[azure oak]

true! (false)

[keen yarrow]

wait rotten matter and blood samples are gone what

[dull heart]

they were kinda pointless items

[keen yarrow]

fair enough

[spark hearth]

Shimmering and cycling Calamity boss items is huge

[valid crypt]

What did they do? Let you craft the boss drops?

[valid crypt]

Yeah

[desert garnet]

ye

[dusk bronze]

the drops and summons and that's literally fucking it

[tidal lodge]

wait so if those two materials are gone now, what do you make the boss spawners with?

[dusk bronze]

aerialite

for now

[tidal lodge]

please say they're gonna be craftable BEFORE killing them that bit was annoying

[dusk bronze]

my condolences

[dull heart]

not currently

that would make the actual spawn method irrelevant

[tidal lodge]

I suppose, yeah

[naive ice]

DISENCHANTED AERIALITE

[fast vessel]

Would be pretty cool if you could shimmer back and forth between enchanted and disenchanted. Of course shimmering back to enchanted would requires you to be post-boss.

[naive ice]

I just want to have my disenchanted stuff, it looks so cool

[inner thunder]

what is the Luxor's gift rework

[azure oak]

we dont know

there are a lot of reworks that haven't been shown here

[dusk bronze]

most of them haven't

also orios update the list of removed items with blood sample and rotten matter so i can die happy

[terse dew]

luxors gift now spawns an among us bean that color coordinates with the weapon class you spawn it with

😁

verified truthful by merkalto fact checkers

[dusk bronze]

i can confirm i've seen it in patreon

this is true

[azure oak]

one of the charts that didn't get updated

[halcyon seal]

what do the numbers mean here

[azure oak]

changelog number

[keen yarrow]

tuff ass sprites

wait will bohlders not drop lizard bricks anymore because stohne looks like it’s be dropped from bohlders

not even sure if that’s official

[dusk bronze]

can't you put a sprite in for ancient smooth navystone bc it'll just be current smooth navystone

[cunning sequoia]

shoutouts to tau cannon

[hushed hazel]

we goin to tau ‼️

[halcyon seal]

also i did not know there was gonna be new fruits

[azure oak]

what's a tau cannon

[cunning sequoia]

half life weapon

[azure oak]

oh the charging laser gun is called the tau cannon?

[keen yarrow]

dread stone

[cunning sequoia]

yep

[azure oak]

sweet

love that thing

[keen yarrow]

is dreadstone a intentional reference or

[cunning sequoia]

nuking choppers with it feels so good

[azure oak]

sonky sea

[keen yarrow]

wait where are you getting ts from

[dusk bronze]

they made it

[fathom girder]

There's a couple of these

[keen yarrow]

it’s so tuff

[fathom girder]

All community made

[azure oak]

i am the chart man

[fathom girder]

Unsure if they've been pinned

[azure oak]

my charts are informational

[fathom girder]

By community I mean orios

They are orios made

[azure oak]

i have one chart left to change

also i was the one who painfully assembled a complete versiono f ares

and i have an entire catalogue of boss assets

[dusk bronze]

is that sand prowler sprite new?

[azure oak]

no

[dusk bronze]

oh

it looks different

[azure oak]

unless someone got access to my files just to change that, then no

[dull heart]

You caught me

[azure oak]

o no

[spark kiln]

these look sick as fuck

[thorny glacier]

All of this is official, yes?

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[azure oak]

yes

[pulsar cobalt]

yeah me

i do

[thorny glacier]

They better make a whole ass sub world of sunken sea if that’s the case

Variety of content is immense

[dusk bronze]

nope it just eats the underworld on small worlds

[thorny glacier]

I can’t imagine what will happen when other biomes get their overhauls

[azure oak]

good things

good things will happen

[stiff light]

your imagination is fragile, weak and small

[thorny glacier]

i know

[spark kiln]

prob wont be as big

unless they want another 2 year wait

[azure oak]

a

[shell sapphire]

Miracle matter redesign when?

[mystic eagle]

next update likely

[dusk bronze]

no??

[hasty tangle]

poor rogue gets decapitated post yharon

[shell sapphire]

None of us really know. But they did already have a couple designs in the works so I don’t know

[mystic eagle]

Have you seen Mage Aerospec

Turned into a ghost

[hasty tangle]

died in hardcore

tragedy

[hushed hazel]

a j-j-j-jhost????????????????????????????

[azure oak]

i need to learn how to do vfx just so i can do whatever i want with calamity's effects

giving throwing brick an impact effect as flashy as supernova

[dusk bronze]

no

flashier

[azure oak]

enough particles to fry your gpu

[hasty tangle]

good thing terraria doesnt use it

[azure oak]

it will render a brick model with more tris than the entirety of gta6

[hasty tangle]

atomic scale resolution

[azure oak]

if i did make an effects mod i guarantee it'l look like crap and run worse

blender beams will look like plastic

[native thistle]

ooo thats great

[distant raft]

i like how auric rogue is cosplaying french nobility

[prisma cipher]

[shut ridge]

ts 💔 🥀

[keen zodiac]

that demonshade melee helmet looks cracked

[halcyon seal]

Wait, dragonfolly tier shift is in SSO?

[azure oak]

no

[halcyon seal]

Oh ok

[keen zodiac]

its a proprossed thought from my understanding

[dusk bronze]

ozz basically confirmed it a while ago

[shut ridge]

Has it been recieved well by the devs cause I think the dragonfolly tier shift sounds really cool

[dusk bronze]

by telling vanillin to put it in the future doc

[halcyon seal]

I’m pretty indifferent to dragonfolly tier shift but I really like evil 2 in post ML

[cunning sequoia]

i heard that most of the devs like it

[dusk bronze]

there's an extremely high probability it's happening

[shut ridge]

😲

[halcyon seal]

I think there was an idea for Calclone and slime god swapping too? But I don’t know how official that is

[keen zodiac]

i would expect that dragon birb be atleast pre plant if it follows the calclone thing

[dusk bronze]

that one's very up in the air

[dusk bronze]

it'll be where evil2 is now

[keen zodiac]

that thing better not have flight capabilitys or very poor amount

[cunning sequoia]

obviously it's getting a rework

[keen yarrow]

what is evil 2 smh

[azure oak]

bosses are allowed to get major reworks now

[shut ridge]

storm weaver

[valid crypt]

Follows the wha

[shut ridge]

[keen zodiac]

where calclone is much weaker then its counterpart

[keen yarrow]

thank god

[azure oak]

gecko scourge

[valid crypt]

Dragonfolly isnt a clone btw

[keen yarrow]

I kinda hate ravager now

[dusk bronze]

hive mind and perforators

[hushed hazel]

the horse is gone

[keen zodiac]

isnt it a fail experment?

[azure oak]

old lore and its consequences..................................

[dusk bronze]

old lore

[keen zodiac]

ahh

[keen yarrow]

That’s what I thought, did you say they may get a progression shift

[dusk bronze]

yes

[valid crypt]

Lore got new writers and a complete rewrite a but over 2 years ago iirc

[halcyon seal]

Peter. The horse is gone.

[azure oak]

dragonfolly just kinda exists as its own thing now

[keen yarrow]

Please lmao

that would be so cool

[azure oak]

gecko scourge ( recreation)

[valid crypt]

Folly is just random natural dragon numero 70 but its post ml for some reason

[halcyon seal]

Now what is this

[keen zodiac]

well you can fight it pre ML

[azure oak]

desert scourge

[valid crypt]

You can fight wof pre eoc is wof a pre eoc boss

[dusk bronze]

an approximation of the resprite

[halcyon seal]

This is dragonfolly???

[keen yarrow]

don’t you need to kill pillars for folly

[valid crypt]

Desert

Scoog

[hushed hazel]

desert scourge

[valid crypt]

Or deus

[halcyon seal]

Oh it’s dscourge

[dusk bronze]

desert scourge 😭 😭 😭

[halcyon seal]

Wait why does it have legs

[distant raft]

its a frankensteined version patched together from teasers

[kindred night]

folly or deus

[dusk bronze]

lizard

[halcyon seal]

Listen we were talking about folly before that

[valid crypt]

Its design is no longer generic sand worm monster

[kindred night]

😔

[fathom girder]

Dourge

[azure oak]

it gets to crawl on the walls now

[hushed hazel]

not the actual new sprite but apparently so close to the actual one of the devs had a moment of panic when they saw it thinking it was real

[white aurora]

dourge

[kindred night]

i liked the generic sand worm monster

[keen yarrow]

should also make scourge a millipede tbh

[pulsar cobalt]

keep in mind tobias woke up like 5 mins max ago when he saw it

[keen yarrow]

give him a shit ton of legs

[valid crypt]

Didnt fit lore wise and not interesting from an art standpoint the devs want to do much more with it

[azure oak]

no millipede

[hushed hazel]

yea but still it's funny

[azure oak]

this is its actual length

[cunning sequoia]

not everyone is gonna be satisfied