calamity-update-talk

[raw pendant]

I think

[wooden blade]

yeah they're hard to do, there's a genre of music that uses it but i forgot it

[raw pendant]

Dubstep?

[wooden blade]

like noli's theme in forsaken or one of spamton's remixes

[raw pendant]

Or techno

[wooden blade]

no it finishes with "cores" ig

[raw pendant]

Hardcore?

[wooden blade]

no

SPAMCORE yeah that was the name

[raw pendant]

Also you could say the intro has glitchiness to it how it distorts at the end

[raw pendant]

What the

Sounds like spamton

Never heard that befofe

[wooden blade]

there's this remix of big shot in this style if you wanna hear it, could help ig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OMXNJ9mHM&list=RDo1OMXNJ9mHM&start_radio=1

(oh wait it's just a joke in the description lmao mb

it doesn't actually exist

[raw pendant]

I do wonder

If I could just remake noxus

From scracth

[wooden blade]

there's a good lot of ideas in your song don't throw everything away

[raw pendant]

Oh you have no idea the mess it is

[wooden blade]

but yeah maybe you could try to change things

[raw pendant]

Like each track is named and stuff but

The automations are a fucking mess, the mixer inserts are all over the place and not really organized, too many instances of Mixer plug-ins that lag my pc, and of course LAG itself

[wooden blade]

tbf we all have a beginning to smth

it's a good start anyway imo

[raw pendant]

Noxus was started on January 1st actually lol

First song I ever started

[analog helm]

green apple redo/ref

[wooden blade]

never heard of it lol

[wooden blade]

oh damn lmao

well that explains it

as i said, it's a good start lmao, much better than some other song fan themes

[raw pendant]

Here's an early wip of it lol

Sgm nylon guitar my beloved

Oh yeah funfact about the first guitar lead part in the main version, it uses a chord progression from this

Because obviously lol

Forge helped me immensely with my noxus song

[wooden blade]

the final version is obviously better, but i think that if you want to remake the song, maybe make it more "evil"? idk since it's noxus the guitar makes it feel kinda nostalgic, when noxus is a dark and more cruel god, maybe make it feel intimidating ?

[raw pendant]

Well forge live recorded the guitar which can't be done easily again

Because we now have different fl studio versions

[wooden blade]

ohh ok i get it

[raw pendant]

And plus I've kinda wanted it to stay as the servants of the scourge melody

[wooden blade]

that's understandable

[raw pendant]

It is directly inspired from the nonstop mix emotional part

Which brought the idea of this song to my head

Maybe what I could do is make the first part of it play dog instead

If we ever get that fl verison problem solved

[wooden blade]

that's a good choice and it fits noxus well too, but maybe distorting it to make it feel ~~darker than ~~dark could've been interesting, but i am no composer so i am not a voice of reason anyway lol

[wooden blade]

yeah i already thought of this part of the mix when i heard it

[raw pendant]

Oh yeahh old version of the Cruel world part

Idk why it just gives off a different vibe to ne

Probably much more atmospheric is the answer

I think the orchestra is fully drowned in very voidy reverb here and there's no fretless bass or rhythm guitar fading out

Strings are much louder, and the time signature is different for some odd reason

[buoyant pulsar]

ellipsis (edited) goes hard

i think it would be cool if Basher was just swung with more weight to it in the animation. it doesn't really need a rework apart from that i think

yes

girl this is back when the nights stabber was in the game

[raw pendant]

Oh shit thags

So long ago

[buoyant pulsar]

lol

[raw pendant]

I'd like to apologize to everyone on earth (except my last ex and fabsol)

[buoyant pulsar]

agree

definitely

what about the brain worms?

they are incredibly frustrated with your actions

[raw pendant]

Even the brain worms

[buoyant pulsar]

okay good

im glad that's settled

'fuck fabsol' chain

...miitopia?

lol voidling sax

also this is unofficial?

[dusk bronze]

almost certainly

the distortion isn't even starting development for years

[hoary edge]

banger af

[spark kiln]

do u mean tempo

wut

they’re just bells

[trail pilot]

Is noxus getting official release?!

[dusk bronze]

no

fanmade

[trail pilot]

oh.

[dusk bronze]

i dunno why they posted it in this channel

[trail pilot]

Still nice to hear there's remnant of noxus

[dusk bronze]

noxus might be added in the future, after yharim

if the devs feel like it

[trail pilot]

if the devs feel like it

[dusk bronze]

yeah

they'll add noxus and xeroc if they still wanna work on the mod after yharim

if they don't, oh well

[plush carbon]

Don't count on it

[buoyant pulsar]

thats why we got WotG :3

still gotta play that one

[plush carbon]

here before someone goes "WotG isn't Noxus and Xeroc"

[fathom girder]

Ermmmm it's actually

[lean relic]

Erm actually 🤓

[dull heart]

Hi

[valid crypt]

Hello

[late eagle]

Hi John doze

[vague cosmos]

I assume we still have no deinitive update on when we can expect the SSO

[dull heart]

Correct

[valid crypt]

Only a vague guess from triangle

[vague cosmos]

Cause I just finished my Infernum Calamity blind play through

[valid crypt]

.

[late eagle]

SSO SEPTEMBER OCTOBER 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[vague cosmos]

Well, "Blind"

[vague cosmos]

I started blind, but then I went looking at the soundtrack, the learning abut the bosses in said soundtrack, then knew about the bosses before fighting them, except HotOG and WotG, thjat was blind, and fucking hell.

[hushed hazel]

Hot dog

[late eagle]

Hot dog

[lean relic]

lmao

[vague cosmos]

I think I liked Avatar more than Nameless.

Mars kinda boring, and Goozma was....alright.

That last part with Mars though. That was legit cinima.

[dull heart]

maybe I'll record a full proboscis demo today

[summer shore]

potential man

[dull heart]

Agh but I can't show it on Providence due to the visual changes she got

dang it

[summer shore]

The polterghast in question

[halcyon seal]

Do it on storm weaver so you can show as little of proboscis as possible

[dull heart]

no

[dull heart]

doable but provi is a better showcase of it

or at least an easier showcase of it

[pulsar cobalt]

use it on dfolly duh

[dull heart]

ah yes

clearly just show it on Scal

[valid crypt]

Do it on ravager

[dull heart]

no thanks

[summer shore]

Excuses...

[dull heart]

ok i have tried some options

both proboscis and mirror blade suck to showcase on the enemies I can actually showcase on

[summer shore]

[dull heart]

because realistically

it's

weaver, signus, polter

are my options

[pulsar cobalt]

use old dog

[dull heart]

goodness no

[pulsar cobalt]

use old provi?

[dull heart]

provi's already been merged to main

[pulsar cobalt]

uhh shit

ig u could look at commit history n just copy n paste the provi code but that might not be 100% fullrpoof

[dull heart]

i'd have to do that for every provi projectile

[pulsar cobalt]

yeah

figured

[dull heart]

I might be able to move proboscis onto a branch based on the released version though

hmm

that sounds doable

Mirror Blade i could do that too ig

or go crazy and show mirror blade on yharon

(bad idea)

[pulsar cobalt]

they dont use anything thats only on ur branch do they?

[dull heart]

i'd have to copy over some stuff

but not a lot

[late eagle]

Guilded proboscis showcase pls 🥺

[dull heart]

y'all already got one for now

[late eagle]

[valid crypt]

Ah yes spear
Bonk stick

[spark kiln]

nice it still heals you

[dull heart]

oops

i was recording proboscis and uh

it turned night 💀

[fringe quiver]

Chargable spear is cool.

If the folly progression swap happens will Gilded proboscis just be like rethemed to not be dragonfolly related but still keep its functionality or will it like get moved down

The former seems like it'd make more senses since you wouldn't really need to change nay of its mechanics

Just like get a new sprite and obtainment method gg

[spark kiln]

lock in

[hot isle]

Cheese

[fringe quiver]

Like if it gets moved down you'd probably need to rebalance it and mayhaps even change its functionality a bit depending on how testing goes but if HOLY SHIT IS THAT BRIMSTONE PREMI

[hot isle]

The mines

[fringe quiver]

AHHH AHHHHHH

[hot isle]

[orchid finch]

brimstone what

[summer shore]

brimstone prenuptial

brimstone... presence

#hispresence

[orchid finch]

what

sir are you high

[summer shore]

Are you high

do you see the user named brimston premium

[orchid finch]

I thought it was related to the video 😭

[summer shore]

[dull heart]

Undecided

depends on what feels best

[fringe quiver]

fair

[dull heart]

My thought is to lean towards leaving it where it is

[summer shore]

Just retheme it to be bloodflare

[dull heart]

And making Swordsplosion the folly melee drop

[summer shore]

[dusk bronze]

yooo spoiler

[dull heart]

Banning you

[fringe quiver]

Yeah i feel like it'd be better just keeping gilded proboscis where it is

Just giving it like a diff obtainment method

[dull heart]

I kinda popped off on this provi fight untill the end

[dusk bronze]

yeah the first half i was like "damn bros doing a nohit"

[dull heart]

I died immediately upon night bc uh

crystal + no arena or hook or mount

I forgot to equip antigravity hook

[spark kiln]

100 health

[dusk bronze]

doze i hav question
is there a reason you didn't include the new provi visuals

[dull heart]

yes

I didn't make them + category A spoilers need team votes

(category A is major stuff like showing bosses)

[dusk bronze]

makes sense

[dull heart]

(although half the people don't do that)

anyway @rare tinsel and @dense sundial you'll like #spoilers

[rare tinsel]

UWAAGH

[dusk bronze]

post the gif

[orchid finch]

Woooah

[rare tinsel]

YEAAAAHHHH

[orchid finch]

a pipe bomb

[rare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893924166925955104/1268262256693612554/trueMeleeLocket.gif

[orchid finch]

prikki why are you so excited about a pipe bomb

[grave geyser]

weapon looks fun
rip most of the hide synergy though

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[rare tinsel]

i’ve gotta shower off first but i gotta see this when i’m done

[rare tinsel]

i have no clue what you’re talking about

[dusk bronze]

current hide is dying anyway

i forgot when tho

[grave geyser]

yeah but afaik its not this update

[rare tinsel]

buh uhhhh gilded proboscis is my favorite weapon

[orchid finch]

see the message above

[rare tinsel]

in the game

[dull heart]

proboscis is cool

[orchid finch]

probiotics

[rare tinsel]

Seeing it improved is like seeing my child get a PhD

[dull heart]

I feel very happy with how this weapon turned out, definitely I think my most well made one

[orchid finch]

my brain just cannot comprehend the proboscis so it literally reads it as "probiotics"

[dull heart]

I even gave it an endlag cancel

[rare tinsel]

yeah it’d basically probiotics

[rare tinsel]

holy fucking shit it has TECH???

[dull heart]

left click endlag can be cancelled into right click

[pulsar cobalt]

gilded probiotics

[rare tinsel]

i’ll watch the video in a few minutes

[orchid finch]

anyway eep time

[dull heart]

Yeah

I think this also does a good job of balancing ease of use and reward

[dusk bronze]

peak

[dull heart]

Left click is pretty obviously very easy to use

[agile latch]

this is spoiler talk

Not calart

[dull heart]

right click is much more difficult to use but higher potential DPS

[agile latch]

Unless these are coming in a cal main update, they shouldnt be posted here

[true oriole]

Provi got absolutely bullied

[inner thunder]

are you guys gonna make shadowspec armor and astral armor good for stealth rogue

[dull heart]

when stealth gets reworked probably

[agile latch]

What would it be rethemed for

[dusk bronze]

but it won't really be stealth anymore right

[inner thunder]

is the rework coming in sso?

[dusk bronze]

no

[dull heart]

could fit into perfs probably if we wanted

[dusk bronze]

ichor spear...

sounds dope

[agile latch]

Not really

[fringe quiver]

I mean it could just be resprited if the design dosen't really fit anywhere i imagine

[twin juniper]

Goodbye sausage maker

[fringe quiver]

I'd say the functionality of the weapon is probably more important than its visuals

[agile latch]

Or well i preffer to do a original weapon design that fit perforator more than just

Changing a existing one to look after it

[dull heart]

truther

[twin juniper]

Do Yall think perf got too much melee loots

[agile latch]

visuals are really important too though

[dull heart]

yes

[dusk bronze]

what if you moved the functionality to vanishing point

[dull heart]

doesn't perf have a sword, spear, and yoyo

[fringe quiver]

I mean yeah visuals are important but will anyone really care that much if they lose the aesthethics of like a single spear

[dull heart]

Vanishing point has plans

[true oriole]

and a melee accessory

[fringe quiver]

I guess on that note you could theoretically just like

[dusk bronze]

i mean
it's THE calamity spear

[agile latch]

I expect perf and hive in the future to have like 5 weapons drops + 1 legendary

[dull heart]

I original considered putting this on Astral Pike before i decided gilded proboscis

[dusk bronze]

lol

[agile latch]

(Not real settled plans, just my opnion)

[fringe quiver]

Give current gilded spear functionality to another post ml weapon and then move gilded spear down to be from folly in pre hm with different functionality

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile latch]

Folly problably will have a very diferent drop set

[dusk bronze]

no but fr why are there SO FUCKING MANY evil2 weapons

what occurred

[dull heart]

ultimately that's something for way later

[agile latch]

A lot of cal stuff are just kinda boring rn set wise

[fringe quiver]

ohh the horrors the horrors

5000 plague weapons 5000 plague weapons ohhh

[dusk bronze]

death

[dull heart]

Swordsplosion and Gilded Proboscis are the only two folly drops I think are even remotely interesting in design

[agile latch]

All are just " sword themed around the boss, gun themed around the boss, bow but it looks like the boss"

[true oriole]

ah right

I forgor about no embed privileges

[agile latch]

When they can be much more original and distinct

[dull heart]

golden eagle and rouge slash are just

a thing I guess

[fringe quiver]

can we get more cool boss drops that arent explicitly for combat while still being useful

like the DS and AS bags those are Cool .

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-ch3-tenna-ant-tenna-gif-1178444910926908675

[dusk bronze]

pog

[fringe quiver]

the ds sand bag will literally be my saviour

as a builder Fuck Yes

[agile latch]

Desert scourge is a really big example of it

[dull heart]

sand bag is cool

[fringe quiver]

finally i dont need to desecrate my entire surface desert to get sand and i dont get 8000 stone blocks while mining amen

[dull heart]

scourge of the desert is kinda peak though

funny digging spear go brr

[agile latch]

That one is the only exception

[fringe quiver]

i like the concept of scourge of the desert like its a spear thats literally just desert scourge and it digs around

Like that's cute

[agile latch]

But its item could be much more creative (tobias has a enjoyable ideia)

[twin juniper]

Brittle stars is kinda weird

[fringe quiver]

the execution could be a bit better but the concept is neat

[plush carbon]

my favourite weapon aesthetic

[dull heart]

Brittle Star is a good summon functionally but it's just

There

[agile latch]

But the others are just staff, bow, sword skinned around desert scourge

[plush carbon]

brown

[agile latch]

[dusk bronze]

GO MY MONOPALETTES

[agile latch]

Brittle star problably will be moved to be a

Urchin drop

Last time i talked with xykuser

[fringe quiver]

like the sulphur sea urchin guys

[dull heart]

I think that's fair

[fringe quiver]

yeah i like that

[dusk bronze]

yeah ocean urchins are exploding

[fringe quiver]

Giving a bit more reason to fight enemies in the sulphur sea given most of them drop jackshit is neat

[twin juniper]

How about deepsea staff tho….

[dull heart]

although honestly brittle star could die for all I care bc we also have wulfrum drones filling the same niche

[fringe quiver]

Brittle star could be like

The slime god puppet thing

instead of an actual summon

I think that'd fit

Kamikaze seastars/urchins

Plus it's a niche that isn't filled by like anything except slime puppet and that one aureus drop

It'd be cool getting a more earlygame version of it

[dusk bronze]

speaking of aquatic urchins
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOWER THE SPAWNRATES PLEASE
they're 99.999% of the enemies in the sulph sea and depths

it's insane

i almost never see catfish

[fringe quiver]

Yeah no please do

There's. There's too many of them

i had to go through hell torture to get the catfish and sulflounder banners they never spawn

[plush carbon]

Aquatic Urchins don't even

Do anything

[fringe quiver]

They don't do anything yeah

They just stand still

They literally hvae no way of hurting you

Unless you throw yourself at them

[pulsar cobalt]

kamikaze minions already exist...

[fringe quiver]

I asume they'll have new AI though

[pulsar cobalt]

or well

[dusk bronze]

it took me plowing through like 60 urchins to kill 10 slab crabs

[fringe quiver]

Yeah i know

Read

Read Tsuki

[pulsar cobalt]

theyre not aminion but a sentry

[fringe quiver]

READ

[plush carbon]

If we're going off of functionality alone they deserved death more than Sea Urchins

[fringe quiver]

read my messages

[plush carbon]

But I get why Sea Urchins were the ones that got removed

[hushed hazel]

Read my Messages

[fringe quiver]

Ocean has enough stuff alredy

yeah

Honestly you could just like

give aquatic urchin the ai of sea urchin and it'd already be a improvement lol

[plush carbon]

pretty much

[dusk bronze]

ture

[dull heart]

oh also fun fact about Gilded Proboscis

it inflicts Vermillion Flux for 15 seconds

[fringe quiver]

Is that the new electric debuff

[pulsar cobalt]

u mentioned urchins... not frogs...

[dull heart]

yeah it's a new electric debuff

[rare tinsel]

okay vilded brobscis timeo

video watch time

[dull heart]

in that video technically gilded proboscis is not inflicting VFlux

Because uh

[fringe quiver]

Brittle star could be like
The slime god puppet thing
instead of an actual summon
I think that'd fit
Kamikaze seastars/urchins
Plus it's a niche that isn't filled by like anything except slime puppet and that one aureus drop
It'd be cool getting a more earlygame version of it

Read my Messages

[naive ice]

How spoilerous

[dull heart]

I just reskinned elemental mix to look like VFlux

[dusk bronze]

frogfish are become critter

[rare tinsel]

kamikaze squirrel

[rare tinsel]

mmmmm

[pulsar cobalt]

normal frogs

😭

well theyre not normal they blow up

[fringe quiver]

She's talking about the nuclear toad sentry

[dull heart]

this was because I had to copy proboscis to the release branch due to provi visuals

[fringe quiver]

Which is also a kamikaze thing but not what i meant

[dull heart]

So VFlux didn't exist

[fringe quiver]

lol

happens

[pulsar cobalt]

yea but here ur talking like a kamikaze thing doesnt exist and the only similar thing are the Totally Not Mage Weapons™️

[dull heart]

but it worked out in the end

[fringe quiver]

no i'm not

reading comprehension devil strikes again

youre going to hell

sorry that was mean

[pulsar cobalt]

ur second to last statement literally says its a niche that only exists in two items

[fringe quiver]

yes

the slime puppet niche

it onlyexists in two items

stupir

[rare tinsel]

HOLY SHIIITI Proboscis 2 is exactly what I've been hoping for in a weapon

Polterghast tmelee is alive

[fringe quiver]

byleth down b

i think its down b

i forgot

[dull heart]

side b

[rare tinsel]

failnaught

[dull heart]

no

[fringe quiver]

oh ok

[dull heart]

That's the bow

[rare tinsel]

sorrgy i have no clue what the fuck a byleth is

[pulsar cobalt]

ur a failnaught

[fringe quiver]

fire emblem character whos in smash

[dull heart]

It's areadbhar

[twin juniper]

Does the frog staff count

[fringe quiver]

i used to have smash ultimate

[rare tinsel]

BOOHOO

[fringe quiver]

No t hose are a very different thing

[rare tinsel]

i'm not a failnaught i'm not a filthy rang*r weapon

[fringe quiver]

But then my switch lite like disappeared

im like not even joking it just disappeared

[dull heart]

failnaught would be a cool ranger weapon

[fringe quiver]

i have no idea where it went to this day

[pulsar cobalt]

fym disappeared

[fringe quiver]

ITS JUST GONE

[pulsar cobalt]

NO ITS NOT

[hushed hazel]

Sorry I got hungry

[fringe quiver]

i had aswitch lite with smash ultimate and pokemon sword on it and one day it just disappeared

[vivid hemlock]

cut her some slack shes an old hag she cant read

[pulsar cobalt]

U FORGOT IT SOMEWHERE OR SOMEONE STOLE IT

[pulsar cobalt]

no im not

[fringe quiver]

in my perception it disappeared

[hushed hazel]

The mafia took it as payment

[dull heart]

I could give failnaught functionality to continental greatbow probably

[fringe quiver]

i looked it all over my old house and it was nowhere

[pulsar cobalt]

the drug dealers took it

[fringe quiver]

this is because i didnt give them the drug money

ayo wheres my switch lite

[pulsar cobalt]

they were like ayo wheres my switch money

[dusk bronze]

when's the last time anyone used that

[fringe quiver]

continental greatbow is a weapon that exists

im not gonna lie i really dont like how all of the calamity ores try doing everything

[pulsar cobalt]

me like a year and a half ago

when i tested every post golem ranger weapon on ml

[dull heart]

or maybe yg

[fringe quiver]

like they all try having a bow and a spear and a sword and a yoyo and a summon weapon and abow and a gun and

[dull heart]

Astral Bow would be better

[dusk bronze]

calamity bows are just dogwater in general
then you add scoria set on top of it and ugghhhh

[dull heart]

Wait shoot

Astral Bow is kil

[fringe quiver]

it's just like really uncreative and cuts down on replayability for different classes

[dull heart]

Ajfisgri

[pulsar cobalt]

bring doze calamity reworks astral blaster rework into calamity

[fringe quiver]

you dont need every single ore to have like everything ever

[plush carbon]

I play Ranger a lot and I never ever use the bows

[naive ice]

We need more weapons with attacks based on smash, because that would be funny

[hot isle]

guys what is the calamity mod I've never heard of it

[dusk bronze]

astral blaster is the best weapon in the mod because it sounds like ass blaster

[fringe quiver]

in celebration of recent events can one of them be inspired by k rools side b

[dull heart]

wait

[fringe quiver]

minecraft mod
adds thsi one boss called scarabeus

[pulsar cobalt]

in celebration...

[dull heart]

I know what could be failnaught

[prisma canyon]

it's nothing special

[naive ice]

Is that the crown toss?

[dull heart]

I am a genius

[prisma canyon]

not many people know about it

[pulsar cobalt]

the ballista?

[hot isle]

thanks cheese

[dull heart]

this will be peak

[naive ice]

What the hell is fail naught

[dull heart]

Byleth bow

[naive ice]

Oh.

I don’t play fire emblem ok

[pulsar cobalt]

well its not byleths but she uses it in smash iirc

[fringe quiver]

someone should like

[dull heart]

yes

[fringe quiver]

make a game

[dull heart]

True

[fringe quiver]

based of it

[hot isle]

yeah true

[fringe quiver]

like taking it off minecraft yk

[hot isle]

that would be cool

[dull heart]

Claude bow

[hot isle]

it would be so awesome

it would be so cool

[pulsar cobalt]

smthn smthn fear the deer idk i havent played three houses (or any fe game)

[dull heart]

idk

I've played the mobile game

[dusk bronze]

marksman bow

[pulsar cobalt]

yknow isay this but i entirely forgot wat it does

[dull heart]

Donor

[dusk bronze]

joke

[pulsar cobalt]

ok but is it goi g to the ballista

its like the exact type of bow to have that kind of use

big ass heavy fucking bow

[dull heart]

There's something that was posted not too long ago in patreon that would work really well for a giant laser for charged failnaught if ported to a weapon that makes sense for that

[dusk bronze]

uhhh ultima?
or is that donor

[pulsar cobalt]

donkr

or

donor

[dull heart]

Oh and the weapon in question is like

In very dire need of a rework

[pulsar cobalt]

THE BALLISTA

[dusk bronze]

phangasm?

[dull heart]

And thematically fits the existing effect origin

Like totally makes sense for them to share effects

[dusk bronze]

wait is it

[pulsar cobalt]

THE BALLI-

[dusk bronze]

the storm

[dull heart]

what

I can't think of anything shown recently in patreon that would fit the storm

[dusk bronze]

patreon?

[dull heart]

This

[dusk bronze]

i'm just trying to guess what bow you're failnaughting

[lyric trellis]

Forgot this weapon somehow didn’t die

[dull heart]

I should make all bows failnaught

Honestly

[stone zephyr]

what is failnaught

[dull heart]

Arbalest? Failnaught

Deathwind? Failnaught

[dusk bronze]

byleth bow

[dull heart]

Clockwork Bow? Clockwork Failnaught

[pulsar cobalt]

give bows charging mechanics please

thatd make them a lot more interestinf

[hard hearth]

god no

thatd instantly kill any reason to use them unless they one shot bosses

[dull heart]

If you think about it

[pulsar cobalt]

what?

[dull heart]

Gilded Proboscis is just clockwork bow for true melee

[dusk bronze]

question
why the fuck does phangasm exist

[hard hearth]

charging a bow is not as fun a mechanic as people think it is

🥀

[dusk bronze]

what is the purpose

[plush carbon]

yeah no

[pulsar cobalt]

upgraded pillar weapons

[hasty tangle]

clockwork bow is fun though

[dusk bronze]

why is it literally the only one

[hard hearth]

1 bow sure

[dull heart]

idk people like clockwork bow

[hard hearth]

its different

[pulsar cobalt]

mourning star exists too

[dusk bronze]

ehh

[hard hearth]

every bow being like that would shift the perspective

[dull heart]

Also the

Stratus Sphere

Before it died

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

summoner didnt get anything

[distant raft]

has anyone ever used it before

[pulsar cobalt]

summoner hate

[dusk bronze]

stratus sphere :(

[dull heart]

I might revive Stratus Sphere

Stratus Spear when

[lyric trellis]

12 minute DoG kill

[pulsar cobalt]

lotus flower

[stiff light]

dont remind me

[pulsar cobalt]

stratus sphere

[stiff light]

Tsuki, the Star Princess — 02:14
stratus sphere

[dusk bronze]

oh my god

[summer shore]

where my alpha virus mourners at

[dusk bronze]

astrael defeat hasn't been reworked in 6 fucking years 😭

[summer shore]

yharimom bow

[dull heart]

yharimon

close enough

[hard hearth]

astreal peak.. (useless 🔥)

[dull heart]

it was about 10 minutes ago i realized

[hard hearth]

wait a minute

[dull heart]

it was astreal defeat and not astral defeat

[dusk bronze]

lol

[hard hearth]

it did get reworked

[summer shore]

astreal dreemurr

[hard hearth]

its not the weird arrow square formation

from way back when

u lied to me...

this is punishable by death

[dusk bronze]

not according to the wiki

just stat changes

[cinder hearth]

If you squint at it, charging bows would have the same design philosophy as stealth strike-focused rogue weapons

[hard hearth]

oh

it got reworked in nov 2019

thats.,..,.,., not 6 years ,.,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,,..

[dusk bronze]

it's close enough

5 and a half

[dusk bronze]

doze there
there aren't any bows in dev highlights

[dull heart]

i didn't say it was on a bow

[dusk bronze]

whar

[dull heart]

i said something in dev highlights would make a great giant laser beam for the failnaught charge attack

[hard hearth]

and thats why it should stay as a rogue thing

😊

[agile latch]

That weapon is dying

[dull heart]

it wouldn't go to that anyway

[agile latch]

Krakatoa is the scoria ranged weapon

[inner thunder]

stop Corinth prime nerf please

[summer shore]

INDONESIA REFERENCE!!!!!

[fringe quiver]

Krakatoa mention

[summer shore]

Where's that one volcano mf

[fringe quiver]

Sounds like a rocket launcher

That's my guess...

[agile latch]

Its a flamethrower shotgun mix

Pumpler upgrade sort of

[fringe quiver]

Oh interesting

I'm interested in you guys seemingly trying to make weapon progression more unique all around tbh

Its so nothingburger how like every material ever crafts the same things bleh

You don't need to do Everything dude Come On

Come onnnnnnn

[agile latch]

Well perennial weapons are perishing

[fringe quiver]

I also hate how like all of the calamity ores make their own fishing rods its so lame

[agile latch]

Scoria last time discussed was going to be 2 mage weapons, 2 melee, 1 rogue, 2 summoner and 1 ranged

[fringe quiver]

I think perennial fishing rod should be kept alive in some way though

[cinder hearth]

Auric ore:

[fringe quiver]

Perennial seems to have alot of like exploration qol stuff going on so it having a fishing rod would make sense

[agile latch]

It would make sense considering perennial has a utility set

[fringe quiver]

It could keep its gimmick of having two bobbers

[dull heart]

i have plans for it yeah

i'm working on most of the cal fishing rods

[fringe quiver]

Scoria fishing rod should die i think

same for like

[dull heart]

nah

[fringe quiver]

most other hardmode cal fishing rods tbh .

[strong isle]

Gloomborf truther....

[dull heart]

i made Rift Reeler cool

[hard hearth]

does scoria fishing rod fish on lava

[strong isle]

Where are the Raelvanna truthers

[dull heart]

it works underwater now

and fishes in lava

[fringe quiver]

I think it'd be cooler if they weren't all just Bar Crafts

[agile latch]

I do need to revise the scoria plans with venus user.. from what i remember they still hold up p well

[hard hearth]

peak

[stuck kite]

scoria at least makes like 0.5 sense because its abyss origin

[agile latch]

And are economical

[dusk bronze]

hi i'm here

[agile latch]

Just the spear that could maybe die? Depend on the spear economy

[fringe quiver]

is this a mr breast scam thing

[dusk bronze]

raelvanna is peak

[stuck kite]

cryonic and stuff are just like

[hard hearth]

what

[stuck kite]

Yeah

[hard hearth]

oh

[fringe quiver]

was it

[agile latch]

Cryonic

[dusk bronze]

mods kill that guy

[agile latch]

Baldening

[fringe quiver]

kill him

[stuck kite]

oh yeah the image spam is 100% scam

[dull heart]

too late

[fringe quiver]

I just dont like how like

[stuck kite]

Equipable rod is menacing

[dull heart]

I want to kill the Tarragon, Cryonic rods for sure

[fringe quiver]

Okay yeah

tahts fair

[hard hearth]

requires no bait to fish

when

[dull heart]

maybe Heron rod

[stuck kite]

Aerialite rod too

[dull heart]

Heron i have a crackhead idea for though

sky fishing

[fringe quiver]

Aerialite rod has somewhat interesting functionality but it dosent need to be obtained from aerialite...

[dull heart]

literally in the air

[agile latch]

Stealing from polarities

[fringe quiver]

Make it obtained in some other way ...

[dull heart]

does polarities add sky fishing

[agile latch]

Yea

[dull heart]

i wouldn't know

[fringe quiver]

cryonic perennial scoria uelibloom Everything all have a spear, a yoyo, a spell book, etc

its just so lame.

[agile latch]

Storm cloud fish fishing rod

[distant raft]

5% harpy drop chance post evil 2 so it fills up your inventory

[dusk bronze]

sky glaze moment

[agile latch]

You should make the sea prism fishing rod work underwater

[dusk bronze]

can y'all like change the obtainment method of sky glaze it fucking sucks rn

[dull heart]

my thoughts on fishing poles

[distant raft]

what if sky glaze got killed instead

[strong isle]

Can you make my cell phone work underwater

[dusk bronze]

also good

[dull heart]

all of the green checks would be reworked

[fringe quiver]

This still feels like a bit too much to me tbh but

I'm unsure

[dull heart]

maybe DoCs would be the same

[strong isle]

Heron Rod did have a rework planned

[dull heart]

was planning on it

[strong isle]

But I dunno if that'll stay...?

[fringe quiver]

Actually i think jthis is agreeable

[dull heart]

was it an actually interesting rework?

or was it just make it less random

[strong isle]

Depends on what you define as interesting

[fringe quiver]

will rifht reeler still fire 3-5 bobbers at once i think thats kind of overkill

[strong isle]

I'll send you the idea

[dull heart]

rift reeler fires 4

[dusk bronze]

the problem is why would you use any hardmode rod over golden

[fringe quiver]

i like double bobber being like the perennial rod gimmick until post ml

its cool

[agile latch]

Wasnt it a pacifying rod..

[dull heart]

there's good reasons to use Rift Reeler now

[agile latch]

Or something like that

The zen

[dull heart]

and will be reasons to use Feral Double

i also may have made rift reeler bobbers have small contact dmg to enemies because i thought it was nice

[fringe quiver]

Sea prism fishing rod having like a zen effect is nice actually

das cool too

fits with like sunken sea too

[agile latch]

No i mean

That was heron

[fringe quiver]

oh ok

that's still interesting albeit i wish it wasn't just a aerialite craft still

[agile latch]

Actually heron can be really funny with sky fishing +

[fringe quiver]

i think atleast that one could haave some other obtainment method

it'd make things more Varied ™

[agile latch]

If there was chances of a thunder falling in your rod, granting you fishing power bonuses

[fringe quiver]

Since like

[dull heart]

i think the sea prism rod should probably be moved to like

[agile latch]

Like the benjamin franklin thing

[dull heart]

clam drop or something

but idk

[boreal edge]

Sky fishing, this is like some kind of a Skyfin

[fringe quiver]

the only cal fishing rod that isn't just crafted from materials

is slurper

[dusk bronze]

sounds neat

[fringe quiver]

Could be cool depending on how many crafts already use sea prisms in the sso plans

having a non-combat drop from clam would b cool .

[dull heart]

I also need to finish wulfrum rod

[agile latch]

Clam only has one drop tho

Rn

[halcyon seal]

wait why does rift reeler fire a variable amount of lines wtf

[dull heart]

i want wulfrum rod to fish up scrap and cores sometimes

[fringe quiver]

Add navy fishing rod to that guy ...

[agile latch]

[fringe quiver]

It'd be ✨ cool ✨

[dusk bronze]

have it fish rover drives

[distant raft]

what if you made it fish up every wulfrum item except rover drive

[fringe quiver]

lmao

[boreal edge]

Good idea

[dull heart]

have it fish rover drives if you have 150% fishing power

[naive ice]

Including every Wulfrum bot EXCEPT Wulfrum rover

[dull heart]

wulfrum rod is funny

[distant raft]

true true

[dusk bronze]

wulfrum boy

[dull heart]

it contains the power to singlehandedly bring DoC to it's knees rn

[naive ice]

Shut up

[dull heart]

(it forces any rod used to only shoot one bobber)

[agile latch]

Devourer of cods now being able to be fed cods to increase its fishing power

[fringe quiver]

🔥

[distant raft]

pinocchio if he was from calamity instead of like italy idk

[dull heart]

i do want to make DoC able to consume extra fish yeah

[agile latch]

Miracle boy lost cousin

[distant raft]

double cods are twice as effective

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[dull heart]

the hard part is

the more rods we have, the more ideas needed for them to be unique and interesting

[fringe quiver]

yharim rod

singular loot drop from yharim

it only fishes up yharon eggs

nothing else

[dusk bronze]

pipis

[dull heart]

since I want to give all of them a distinct function of some sort

Navy Rod is the one i'm having the most trouble with

[agile latch]

+5% crit fishing rod

[halcyon seal]

uhhh wb a rod thats way more likely to fish up quest fish, but just cant do crates

[hushed hazel]

isn't navy rod the only one with a unique function currently

other than hotline

[dull heart]

that's not the type of distinct function i mean

i mean like changes how you fish type function

[agile latch]

I mean following your ideias for the other fishing rods

[summer shore]

Mee

Is raelvanna a girldragon

[agile latch]

You could make it so when you have navy equipped, bubbles start appearing underwater with a item inside (fish, crates etc) and you must properly throw your bob at the desired bubble to burst it and get the item

[dull heart]

that's nearly the same as rift reeler is the main thing

[pure kettle]

How long has the SSO update been in development

[dull heart]

i think navy will be similar to wulfrum but with less keys & works underwater

[dusk bronze]

roughly 14 months

[halcyon seal]

what does wulfrum do

[dull heart]

Feral Double will actively hurt you to use in exchange for extra power

probably

Slurper will be unchanged

[summer shore]

Feral double summons piranhas

[dull heart]

heron probaby just dies tbh

i don't have a good idea for it that seems like something i'd be willing to figure out how to code

and DoCs will consume basic fish automatically as you fish

[boreal edge]

Wasn't there an idea where if it caught a Bass, the catch was forfeited and you automatically threw out an additional two lines

[fringe quiver]

thats badass can you guys do that

[lapis oak]

Gilded... Gilded Proboscis...

why the audio is cooked

anyways, cool!

[lean relic]

stardew valley triple fish at once

[hazy pine]

is there a lore reason provi sens healing stars or was it just because it's cool

[dry whale]

as a true melee fan I approve the gilded proboscis

[lapis oak]

100 healing

good number for eyes

[dull heart]

yeah something like that

[dull heart]

? it works for me

[dull heart]

guardian healer idk

[lapis oak]

I mean, low quality

[dull heart]

oh

probably just the recording software

[lapis oak]

not using obs?

[dull heart]

no

windows gamebar

bc it works enough

[lapis oak]

what even is that, how u activate that

[dull heart]

alternatively, steam recording sometimes

[dull heart]

win + G

or win + alt + R to start recording directly

[lapis oak]

oh shoot I don't think I have it

not doing anything

[dull heart]

L

There's also steam's built in recorder

[pearl sentinel]

hi guys

[cinder hearth]

Ciao

[hard hearth]

adios

[lean relic]

ascends

[silk notch]

#spoilers message wait, is the provi intentionally reverted to make a specific spoiler with the right scope, or the provi changes were indeed reverted

and it said about night

[lyric trellis]

It was intentionally reverted yes

[dull heart]

I intentionally moved Proboscis onto the release build

Nothing in that game besides Proboscis is different than what you have right now

[lapis oak]

Elemental Mix reskin

[silk notch]

I remembered long ago when people are hungry about provi spoilers, then Altix recorded a spoiler on the weapon the prince and said that could be seen as a hint

[lapis oak]

ye

[silk notch]

#calamity-update-talk message here it is

[jagged valve]

Hi dimhaze

Let me help you remember something about Lore-Draedon

[slate folio]

I'm old!

[lapis oak]

where's u grey hair

[slate folio]

i aged better than you ever will

[inner thunder]

better than scal?

[slate folio]

supreme calamitas isnt even old yet

[dusk bronze]

she's only like 30 bruh

[inner thunder]

damn

i thought shs 509

[hushed hazel]

no she's, like, 27

[terse dew]

31

😰

[naive ice]

Some people age like fine wine. Others age like milk

[hard hearth]

31*

😨

[lyric trellis]

Happy late birthday

[limpid grail]

permafrost is the one that's like more in their 500's

calamiats is like

late 20's, early 30's

yharim is a few decades over 100

[agile latch]

Draedon is 3 fargos years old

[dusk bronze]

true

[agile latch]

Oldest cal character is problably yharon, wyrm and OD (oldest alive)

Noxus too is ancient

[dense sundial]

hey buddy

cool and good stuff (might i suggest you add a little static electricity visual/sound or something to indicate when the thrust is charged?)

[silk notch]

oooooowwwwwwww

[fringe quiver]

Oh true

visuals like that r good to have

[dull heart]

I mean it has a visual now but yeah I could

ultimately the full charge on the thrust isn't really important though, usually you want partial charge anyway

but it definitely doesn't hurt

the thrust's damage scaling is linear and so there's no reason to charge more than needed if in range (and assuming you're going to cancel into the dash)

[lapis oak]

full charge it because it's awesome

[pulsar crow]

Gilded proboscis my beloved rework??? And it's still tmelee??? How splendid

[lapis oak]

why the bosses page in the doc looks all over the place

[latent portal]

yo the gilged proboscis looks gread

[late eagle]

Man, it's going to be really cool to see what videos doze will make when SSO launches.

Doze explaining for the thousandth time all summoner progression post sso for me

[plush carbon]

the future content doc?

idk its a bit of a mess lol

[mellow spade]

holy shit i just saw proboscis rework
that is certainly a lot of lifesteal

[dull heart]

it's actually

Less than it has now

it's just all in one hit

[dull heart]

I should make a video framework so I can just

quickly replace all the items

for guides

[gritty torrent]

will proboscis still be a folly drop?

[dull heart]

it is still folly themed so

yeah

[surreal glacier]

salivating at the thought of the damage we'll deal with the big charge hit and adrenaline

[dull heart]

oh goodness

Adrenaline + Rage + Abyssal Madness

time to phase skip

[arctic cliff]

im glad we have a cool melee weapon rework thats a true melee weapon

and even better? spear

[dull heart]

Mirror Blade is also a cool true melee weapon

now

[arctic cliff]

Oh?

[surreal glacier]

thank God

[arctic cliff]

hmm

[surreal glacier]

Mirror Blade is so ass 😭

[surreal glacier]

yeah there's a grand total of zero spears that are actually interesting rn so this is a very welcome change

give me Exo Spear 🗣️ 💯

[arctic cliff]

please rework the botanic piercer line a true melee spear line please please

[surreal glacier]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

its so bad why does it even exist

[cinder hearth]

Redtide spear could be interesting

If anyone used it

[surreal glacier]

how does it stack up against DoG?

[dull heart]

well enough

[dull heart]

no

[arctic cliff]

then i must become caldev

[dull heart]

the uh

[arctic cliff]

so i can rework it myself then

[dull heart]

the cosmilite spear

[arctic cliff]

[dull heart]

is kinda cool

[dull heart]

sorry to burst your bubbble

xyk already has plans for the vanishing point line

[arctic cliff]

doze

[surreal glacier]

oh shit I forgot that's even a thing LOL

[lyric trellis]

Elemental Lance 💔

[lapis oak]

does it resemble Dia's Botanic Piercer concept?

[surreal glacier]

better or worse than Stellar Striker for worms

[surreal glacier]

cause Stellar Striker annihilates worms

especially Infernum DoG oml it cooks him 😭

[naive ice]

Quick question for yall, what is “lower abyss theme” as far as the music tier list is concerned? Also why are there 3 DoG themes on there? Is one old?

[dull heart]

the tooltip calls it a spear

so

wiki sorts based on function

functionally stream gouge does not count as a spear

[cobalt wharf]

how it feels to kill people

[dull heart]

Spears are melee weapons that stab in the player's aiming direction, similarly to shortswords, but slower and with greater range.

this is what they give on the spear page

ok wait

[lyric trellis]

Yo-yo….

[dull heart]

why is wulfrum screwdriver not considered a shortsword

[brave star]

Anyone have potential spoilers from dia’s stream

[dull heart]

that one's a little

[lyric trellis]

This one is funny

I remember cit seeing that and saying idk, something

“Killing people” probably

[cobalt wharf]

sorry pal doesn’t count unless it fits a perfect code definition

[lyric trellis]

Reminds me that this melee weapon category is dead next update, unless seeking scorcher still counts (1 weapon!!)

At what point does something just go into “other”

[surreal glacier]

just rework the Scorcher idk

rip to current triactis hammer though

gonna miss the "delete every worm in your path" weapon

[lapis oak]

vas?? Galaxy Smasher does return to player

[lyric trellis]

Scorcher is reworked, but it still follows the “melee weapon that returns to the player” definition kinda but probably not

[lapis oak]

🤨

[surreal glacier]

is it buffed too?

[lapis oak]

just because the final hit doesn't return to the player it doesn't count as a boomerang

[lyric trellis]

Idk sure

[raw pendant]

Nope you gotta see for yourself

[surreal glacier]

such a sick sprite but idk why you'd ever use it over smth like Terratomere

[arctic cliff]

They should place the custom-swing animation swords into a category of swords

[raw pendant]

Whenever dia streams

[arctic cliff]

most of them are giant swords, so maybe just call them... i dunno, greatswords?

[raw pendant]

But try not to go sharing anything around

[inner thunder]

is the Galaxy smasher upgrade good

[surreal glacier]

rn its great yeah

[lapis oak]

because why not?

[surreal glacier]

meh single target but arguably best weapon in the entire game for crowd control

[lapis oak]

using 1 weapon over and over and over 🥱

[surreal glacier]

deletes worms so fast its sickening

as for the rework I have no clue

[raw pendant]

Devs like cd and dia showing stuff in vcs perfer that only people in that vc or joiners see it, they don't want it shared around

[lyric trellis]

Spiky balls category reduced to about 6 next update

[surreal glacier]

ig but like Terratomere is better and cooler than basically every other melee option at that stage in the game

which it arguably should be cause its a Terra Blade upgrade but still

[lyric trellis]

Scorcher

[lapis oak]

better and cooler

it's like different preferences don't exist

[lapis oak]

I mean if it doesn't hit it just disappears and won't return

[surreal glacier]

thats cooler than what we got now fs

[lapis oak]

so maybe gonna go to others category as well

[surreal glacier]

dunno how strong it'll be

[cobalt wharf]

isn’t current seeking scorcher just

[surreal glacier]

don't know if "better" is even debatable lol

[lyric trellis]

A boomerang yes

[cobalt wharf]

copied code from possessed hatchet

[surreal glacier]

comparable/better dps long range, comically higher dps close range, and heals

[lapis oak]

boomerangs need to return on demand

this one if it doesn't hit anything it's just gonna be standing still and disappear

so... others it goes

[dull heart]

here me out

flails are boomerangs

by the definition shown there

[lapis oak]

I'm putting u on the grill

[lyric trellis]

Okay well duh I mean I swear it was literally just a normal boomerang not a possessed hatchet/flying knife clone but I can’t fully remember ngl

[lapis oak]

u mean before the current one?

[lyric trellis]

Scorcher as it is right now in game publicly yes

[lapis oak]

wiki history doesn't say so

it has always been like that

this thing was created in 2020

[lyric trellis]

Great trivia

[brave star]

How scorching

[lapis oak]

Wonder what the Antlion Skewer gonna do

Hopefully not just a usestyle1 broadsword with funny skin

[iron dew]

theres already an antlion sword thats a usestyle1 broadsword in vanilla

[lapis oak]

Can't really expect it to not be like that

Because I think that's a donor item

[lyric trellis]

Hint: Rogue

[iron dew]

usestyle1 broadsword rogue weapon would go so fire

[lapis oak]

And uh, Marksman Bow and Ultima and Starmageddon are there

Examples

[lyric trellis]

What the hell did Ultima do

[lapis oak]

Literally Starmada sprite but bow

[lyric trellis]

That’s better than at least half the other weapons

[lapis oak]

Funny

[lyric trellis]

Teslastaff 💔