calamity-update-talk

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah it's the difference between yharon and dog

they're both hard, but one of them is fair

[stone zephyr]

i havent played basecal in ages so i cant say i undersand

[buoyant pulsar]

i just don't like fighting dog

[valid crypt]

Fuck basecal dog rn

[dense sundial]

i'm not sure i would call dog unfair but he is absolutely the paragon of annoying

[valid crypt]

Yharons fine

[dense sundial]

yharon is fine except phase 7 slow bh

[lyric trellis]

DoG’s secret technique where he puts you to sleep

[dense sundial]

you have to give it a lot of space for it to clear up, even then the dodge inward method is pretty weird, and then you've given yharon the time to do another bh immediately

[dull heart]

yeah dog is not unfair in the current version

He's just

not interesting at all

[dull heart]

and this

[valid crypt]

You can make the dog fight look so incredibly anticlimactic by just standing still half the time

[dense sundial]

turning the music off speaks serious volumes of boss design in general

dog is nothing without it

[dull heart]

not for much longer

[dense sundial]

depends on how long "much longer" is

sure am looking forward to it either way

[dusty tinsel]

Dog will be updated in 5 Fargo seconds

[dull heart]

until 2.1 drops ...

which idk when it will be

[dense sundial]

Well Yeah

[dull heart]

but uh

less than 10 years

[dusty tinsel]

5 fargo seconds

[dull heart]

hope that helps

[iron dew]

25 fargo days

[analog helm]

1 fargo year

[lavish otter]

the answer is that by the time i got to the point of smaller manual touchups like that, i was kind of tired of doing them

[oblique escarp]

which reworked weapons have been publicly showcased?

[dull heart]

A lot

There's a document pinned with a lot of them

[dusty tinsel]

25 Fargo days equals 5 Fargo seconds and 5 Fargo seconds is 1 Fargo year

They are all equivalent due to Fargo math

[lavish otter]

also, after trying it for a bit, getting that lighting to work right is just kind of tricky, especially because there's a bunch of small areas where the same color needs different amounts of blue overlay depending on what they're used for

[iron dew]

if you would consult the graph....

[jaunty sequoia]

Master death isnt actually getting removed is it?

[dull heart]

No

[hoary edge]

I think it's gonna be removed

[dull heart]

Expert Death is

And Master Revengeance is

those are dead

[jaunty sequoia]

Huh?

Why?

[hoary edge]

it's full of unnecessary jank

so devs need to change the difficulty system entirely

[jaunty sequoia]

But i like the death mode changes, and i dont want to play master death again

[dull heart]

Simplifying the difficulties

Revengeance is now built off Expert

Death is now built off Master

[jaunty sequoia]

So im going to be FORCED to play on master just to have the death mode changes?

[dull heart]

Yes

[hoary edge]

true

[dull heart]

But we're revising all of the master Fabsol changes

[jaunty sequoia]

Man im not gonna lie, i think thats a bad decision

[dull heart]

Because most of them were uh

Really bad

[jaunty sequoia]

Sprime

[dull heart]

Sprime master is dead

[hoary edge]

no way you just say that bruh 😐

[dull heart]

Master is just expert with higher stats now

[jaunty sequoia]

Am I allowed to disagree with decisions that I personally think would diminish the quality of the mod?

[dull heart]

And previously master changes from calamity are moved to death or killed entirely

[arctic cliff]

yes

I exist

[dull heart]

I don't see why

[jaunty sequoia]

I like the mixing of difficulties

[dull heart]

there's a lot of benefits and very little for downsides

[jaunty sequoia]

I think expert death is the perfect difficulty

[dull heart]

Major benefit is difficulty mixing is dead, meaning we have significantly less difficulties to balance

So each difficulty can be balanced better

[lavish otter]

Honestly, kind of agreed there, I'm one of those people who just doesn't like master mode in general

[arctic cliff]

ideally i hope rev will be closer to what expert death

was

[lavish otter]

With Springy user, I mean

[dull heart]

Eventually rev will be very different than now

I'd be shocked if we don't get a noticable amount of changes to every boss eventually

We're no longer tied to fabsol's boss design

[buoyant pulsar]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME

[dull heart]

I also like expert death

[jaunty sequoia]

Expert death allows the game to not be piss easy whilst being beginner friendly to new tmod players

[buoyant pulsar]

same here

it's just stat bloat

[dull heart]

so does just balancing our difficulties well

we have plenty for that

[lyric trellis]

Expert death is just rev but like 4 bosses have notable changes and minor enemy things

[dull heart]

Classic
Expert
Revengeance
Death

I don't see why 4 main difficulties is not enough options for players

[jaunty sequoia]

Honestly i think if anything needs a rework its only the master mode additions

[dull heart]

no

[hoary edge]

nah

[dull heart]

a lot of the bosses are in bad shape in all difficulties

[buoyant pulsar]

when it comes to calamity i've just shifted to the mindset of like
idc what changes because the devs are pretty smart and even if its uncomfy to have stuff i like being changed, it's ultimately for the better

[jaunty sequoia]

Master mode also fucks with intended accessory slot order

[lyric trellis]

A whole 1 accessory early

Gamebreaking

[dull heart]

that assumes the master slot isn't intended

[jaunty sequoia]

Unless you want the onion to actually do something

You have a whole useless item that becomes even more useless after the change because death is tied to master mode

Wanna play death? Celestial onion does nothing

[dull heart]

it technically does something on master

it acts as demon heart on master if you haven't gotten it yet

which you really should have but

ultimately it just doesn't drop at all for most players on master so idk why that's a problem

[jaunty sequoia]

That seems like an unintended side effect of the accessory slots

[dull heart]

No it's hard coded in to do that

[jaunty sequoia]

But… why

[dull heart]

idk I didn't code it

[dusk bronze]

why wouldn't it make sense

[dull heart]

ultimately

[jaunty sequoia]

It make sense but it doesnt make sense to code at all

Since it literally does nothing if you already got the demon heart

[dusk bronze]

both items are just +1 accessory slot

they're functionally identical

[arctic cliff]

its if you'

[dusk bronze]

what if you skip wof

[arctic cliff]

are insane and dont think you deserve two extra accessory slots until post-moonlord

[jaunty sequoia]

It will help chieflogan ig

[dull heart]

The new difficulties will be like

Classic - Easy
Expert - Medium-Easy
Revengeance - Intended difficulty, medium-hard
Death - for masters, hard

[jaunty sequoia]

Okay but how does ftw and gfb fet effected?

[buoyant pulsar]

i'll probably just play death i guess

[dull heart]

FTW will be even harder yes

[fathom girder]

You must be worthy

[jaunty sequoia]

Nevermind i fully agree with this implementation

[dull heart]

But it's not a main difficulty and will not be a balancing focus

it will be there, but our focus will be primarily on rev and death

Expert being slightly toned down Revengeance, and Classic being majorly toned down

[jaunty sequoia]

Okay but will master be an actual difficulty?

[dull heart]

No

We leave base master in the state vanilla left it

Part of the reason for this change is to improve cross mod compatibility

We no longer make any AI changes to vanilla bosses outside of Rev/Death

[fathom girder]

a nice idea

[jaunty sequoia]

??????????

HWAT?

[dull heart]

Death also being on Master means other mods that use Master for their hardest difficulty will automatically know Death is meant to be that hardest difficulty

[dull heart]

what

[lavish otter]

hwat*

[dull heart]

Classic, Expert, and Master AI will be unchanged for vanilla bosses

[jaunty sequoia]

So they no longer have calamity attacks?

[dull heart]

We have Revengeance and Death specifically so we can do whatever we want for the bosses

This will help majorly with crossmod once again

[jaunty sequoia]

King slime is now just vanilla king slime?

[dull heart]

not in Revengeance or Death

only in Classic/Expert/Master

[hard copper]

Only revengeance and death will change vanilla boss ai

[mystic eagle]

That sounds so bad if you just want to play easier difficulties

[dull heart]

why?

[mystic eagle]

Vanilla EoC is so garbage

[fathom girder]

revengeance will be what you want if you want calamity ai with a reasonable difficulty

[dull heart]

Vanilla EoC is fine what

[jaunty sequoia]

^

[dull heart]

of all bosses to pick EoC is probably not the best example

[jaunty sequoia]

Golem (cringe)

[dull heart]

yeah vanilla golem sucks

[hard copper]

Moon lord

[lavish otter]

Golem's kind of ass no matter what

[mystic eagle]

Slow Floating eye comes after you and suddenly becomes unpredictable

[dull heart]

vanilla moon lord 😅

[dull heart]

nothing about EoC is unpredictable sorry

[lavish otter]

It's either a pushover or ridiculously tedious to fight

[fathom girder]

Generally though, revengeance isn't exactly a bs difficulty or anything

[buoyant pulsar]

fabsolian golem is fucking sisyphean

[jaunty sequoia]

Yeah which is why death is better

[dull heart]

but basically

[fathom girder]

people shouldn't have any issues sticking to rev if they want calamity ai

and then DEATH is for the people who want hard calamity ai

[jaunty sequoia]

Literally pushing boulders

[lavish otter]

THANK YOU
Up until this point, I've felt so alone with that opinion

[dull heart]

Do not think that rev and death will be the same as their current iterations

[mystic eagle]

I did an Expert Run in vanilla recently and had my ass kicked by the sub 20% dashes as oh my god they're too fast for me

[dull heart]

With these changes

They won't

[lavish otter]

It's those fuckin lingering explosions

[jaunty sequoia]

Those fucking suck

[dull heart]

Hermes boots my beloved

[mystic eagle]

I was using those

[buoyant pulsar]

it's just projectile hell and if you go even remotely close to the bottom of the arena you die instantly

[jaunty sequoia]

Will they be way harder?

[dull heart]

we'll see

Death will be hard but fair

[arctic cliff]

You were never alone. I always prefered Infernum to Fabsolian golem for a reason.

[dull heart]

no more BS

[jaunty sequoia]

I mean i think some of the master death bosses are actually good

SCal being an example

[arctic cliff]

that golem fight is the perfect example of what i like to call bullet vomit

[dull heart]

The new death dog is hard but probably my favorite fight in the mod atm

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I've considered trying infernum out before SSO drops, specifically because of this
The only negative I've heard about it is DoG, and I'm not close to fighting him anyways

[hasty tangle]

even more than provi?

looking forward to it then

[dull heart]

She also only has Death AI and not master ai

[mystic eagle]

Expert and Master may aswell get disabled

[dull heart]

Yes

[jaunty sequoia]

Well wait a min when are we getting HUUUUGE DOG then

[hard copper]

dogze hype!

[buoyant pulsar]

the new anti-fabsolian regime 🔥

[dull heart]

Idk

It'll be a while

Probably with the distortion subworld

[arctic cliff]

its how i describe projectiles being spammed all over the place with no care for order

[dull heart]

for now we're getting a rework me, xyk, and Fryzahh did

[buoyant pulsar]

1000 damage from dash:

[lavish otter]

Honestly, I'd be surprised if it didn't come with the distortion

[dull heart]

That makes DoG actually good

[jaunty sequoia]

So you’re literally reworking DoG twice

THats like more work

[arctic cliff]

Sprime suffers from a big bout of this too, whch imo is what makes the master Sprime fight that summons MORE bosses to fire extra projectiles so bad

[lavish otter]

That's kind of a big part of his conceptual rework

[dull heart]

ok but DoG REALLY needed jt

[fathom girder]

DoG actually being something

is good

[dull heart]

We could NOT leave dog in the state he was in dev for who knows how many years

[arctic cliff]

because he's already firing stupid amounts of projectiles that can sometimes come behind your back and bite you

[hasty tangle]

current dog is a miserable pile of garbage

[buoyant pulsar]

does ANYONE like sprime

[hasty tangle]

he needed a rework

very badly

[arctic cliff]

Fabsol.

[jaunty sequoia]

I mean i agree but still

[hasty tangle]

he couldnt just be left alone for another 3 years

[dull heart]

he was genuinely worse in Dev before my rework than he is in public

[jaunty sequoia]

This is only a temporary rework

[buoyant pulsar]

:(

[dull heart]

like by far the worst boss

[dull heart]

Ok?

[jaunty sequoia]

Nah

[hoary edge]

I only like eternity mode SPrime 🙂

[jaunty sequoia]

Thats r*vager

[dull heart]

I said "in dev"

[mystic eagle]

Most bosses need reworks (wink wink Ravager) but DoG was urgent

[dull heart]

in the dev build Fabsol made dog even worse than ravager

[fathom girder]

and it's already done :D

[buoyant pulsar]

someone get the video of the dude fighting ravager and he's just dashing back and forth with the most deadpan expression

[dull heart]

He didn't get a chance to finish his DoG changes so

[jaunty sequoia]

So when is the difficulty rework planned to hit?

[dull heart]

It was left in a very unfinished very bad change

[arctic cliff]

please elaborate on how bad it was

I wanna know

[lavish otter]

I'll be honest, I kind of enjoyed fighting Ravager, particularly when it limited my flight and forced me to stay closer to it while I fought

[mystic eagle]

Ravager can be cheesed by walking forever, not even running

[jaunty sequoia]

Im not gonna lie removing more ways to play your mod seems like a bad decision

[fathom girder]

no body lasers

[dull heart]

Not all bosses will be changed, but the next major update (2.1) will contain the DoG rework and the collapsing of difficulties, as well as a ton of other tweaks

[fathom girder]

DoG was literal dogshit

[buoyant pulsar]

thats why they call him that

[dull heart]

Not when it lets us give more attention to the ways that remain to play our mod

[lavish otter]

Chances are that's because I'm comparing it to other current boss fights, which are mostly...varying levels of mid, but it was cool to actually be forced to engage with a boss for the first time in several hours

[dull heart]

it's far better to have 2 100% cooked cakes than 20 10% cooked cakes

[fathom girder]

quality over quantity, he says

...how many patch notes are in SSO again

[mystic eagle]

And that attention includes removing all ai changes that aren't in Rev and Death?

[fathom girder]

:3

[arctic cliff]

weirdly enough, why is that not bad?

[jaunty sequoia]

Tying death to master is pretty much just redoing malice mode

[arctic cliff]

theres surely something else to this that makes it bad

[dull heart]

that was among the things done

[dull heart]

That made it majorly bad

[fathom girder]

There MIGHT have been more to it, but basically DoG had such little pressure or like... anything

[dull heart]

Especially since laser wall times went from 12 to 20 seconds I think

[jaunty sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/mirabilandia-loop-adrenalina-hot-wheels-stuntman-gif-23741056

[mystic eagle]

There may aswell be a large red arrow pointing to the difficulty changer at all times

[dull heart]

DoG would literally just

Not interact with you

At all

For 50% of the fight

maybe more

[arctic cliff]

ahhh

thats the issue

[dull heart]

Because current DoG relies on body lasers to interact

[arctic cliff]

it wasnt just unfun. It also had the death penalty-worthy gall to bore you.

[dull heart]

Yes

it was not hard

[fathom girder]

it was mentioned before that keeping calamity difficulties as the only AI changing difficulties will help when multiple mods are installed that potentially mess with boss AI as well
On top of that, I can't think of a single playthrough that wasn't in rev or death

[mystic eagle]

What is the DoG rework like

[dull heart]

It was just incredibly boring

[dull heart]

cool

very cool

[dusk bronze]

can confirm

it fucks

[fathom girder]

and given they're working on tweaking the difficulties further in this update, rev is probably gonna be even more favorable to always have active at a base for pure calamity

[dull heart]

I'm hoping to get an auric patron build up for DoG this month

[fathom girder]

it's a non issue

[dull heart]

but we'll see what happens

[mystic eagle]

Yes but alot of other mods change vanilla ai in Classic, Expert and Master

[fathom girder]

Good, let them do that

[dull heart]

Which causes breaking when multiple mods change ai

Thus why this change is good for crossmodding

[lavish otter]

It's kind of like DS' new redesign, even we Patrons have barely seen any of it, but can still confirm that it's a huge improvement

[dull heart]

Desert Scourge redesign may have

Set me on the path to making Invoked Stargod

[lavish otter]

Oh yeah, I saw that earli-
Wait, that's why you did that?

[dull heart]

no

I did it because I have wanted to for a while

[lavish otter]

Oh okay, fair

[dull heart]

Due to my work on DoG and DS, as well as how Ennway coded the new DS segments to work, I finally had the skills to make ISG

[mystic eagle]

I'm very mixed on what has been shown of the redesign so far, if you need more info, search up the messages where I said dull colors

[dull heart]

you really haven't seen anything of it

[mystic eagle]

True, I know that

[buoyant pulsar]

does it involve pocket dimensioning

[mystic eagle]

And that's why I said that in the message for more info

[dull heart]

It's like the difference between this

And this

Looks kinda ehh on its own but in full context it works

[lavish otter]

Oh my god- it took me too long to realize the top one is the bottom one cropped

[buoyant pulsar]

i still think this part of it is so comically tiny and stupid imo

like give swords big handles that's way cooler than a tiny handle

tiny grips look stupid

[mystic eagle]

Which is why I said that I haven't seen the full, finishef sprite yet

[dull heart]

anyway

[buoyant pulsar]

anyway...

[dull heart]

new dog will be good

New ravager walls will be uh

well we'll see

It is very possible I overtuned ravager

Especially in death

[fathom girder]

I'm sure it'll be fine

give him some time in the limelight

[buoyant pulsar]

why does bladecrest fire a scythe backwards

its so blatantly jank lol

[lyric trellis]

So excited for Ravager to become the most hated nohit boss again just like god intended

[hasty tangle]

wasnt that only for defiled

cuz outside of it he just does nothing

[lyric trellis]

Primarily defiled yeah but I feel like pre-BH people have always kinda hated him for the most part

[hasty tangle]

i think destroyer was/is far more hated

[shell sapphire]

[lyric trellis]

True

Still probably bottom 3 though

[dull heart]

death ravager will be

An experience

I may be considering adding a third, horizontal rock pillar on death

That spawns above you

[hasty tangle]

may as well make a forth as well

and make them form a box

[dull heart]

just make ravager disable platforms

entirely

death phase 2 ravager is kinda cool now though ngl

gives vanilla deerclops fight flow vibes

[tropic jolt]

It will turn them into damaging rock platforms ✨

[lyric trellis]

Omg infernum Ravager attack !

[dull heart]

idek what infernum does to ravager

[lyric trellis]

That sounds evil though

[dull heart]

it's kinda cool

oh

I did make ravager jumps always the tall ones though

[tropic jolt]

In my opinion one of infernums greatest glow ups

[dull heart]

no more sometimes doing the low jumps

I also did a bunch of other ravager tweaking

so uh

we'll see

nobody has bothered to test it besides myself though so uh

might be a "give to the patrons to test for us" moment

[tropic jolt]

😁

[dull heart]

auric tier finally getting their perks

[summer shore]

Clearly this means update in a week

[hoary heron]

Meowwwwwwa

Mrowwwww

[lyric trellis]

Auric tier perks: Dynamic Pursuer

[white aurora]

wawa

[hoary heron]

Anyway chat

For once i'm ctually gonna do a dedicated calam playthrough

Despite being a terraria veteran i never actually played the mod seriously

Tho any other calamity add ons i should add?

Currently i have infernum and wrath of the gods

(And calam vanilla music)

Tho i am interested in wrath of th machines tho should i also add it even if i never fought the exo mechs before or is that too different

[summer shore]

Never fight base exos

[hoary heron]

It's that bad???

[summer shore]

I was exaggerating but yea it's pretty bad

Infernum I wouldn't recommend unless you're ready to take months for the last 5 bosses

[hoary heron]

Hell yea

Anyway is ts a Yea for wrath of the machines?

[dull heart]

hmm

should I show my very first attempt at an eternal exchange design

[arctic cliff]

ya

[lyric trellis]

It’s peak

[lapis oak]

Glorp

[summer shore]

Yes

Wotm is seemingly less balls than infernum exos

Infernum exos is fun once you figure out a route that you like

The difficulty between each route varies a lot

Better spend less time and just go with wotm

[buoyant pulsar]

i mean it's better than calmain

[dull heart]

Ok

here is my (very bad) first draft at an eternal exchange design

The crystal colors corresponded to the mode

[lapis oak]

programmer art

[summer shore]

radiance pilled

[dull heart]

it was originally going to be a radiance exhume

[summer shore]

Damn

[dull heart]

i changed it bc post scal gives no time to have fun with it

[lapis oak]

SPOILER

[mellow spade]

holy peak in #spoilers

[lapis oak]

IT'S HERE

DOG IS HERE

YESSSSSSSSSSS

[mellow spade]

distortion alert

[sturdy thistle]

THE UNNAMED BOI PIANO COVER USED IN IT

HOLY SHIT

GOATED REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[boreal edge]

That's not unnamed boi

I think that's Eulogy for the Ego

[teal bone]

herb hit sfx

[boreal edge]

I can tell it's not unnamed boi because his middle section is very different

[lapis oak]

we need someone with react perm to farm this sppoiler

[boreal edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxETHwsyeE&t=663s

[mellow spade]

still peak tho

[arctic patrol]

Who the hell broke my screen

Fuck this shit

[mellow spade]

DoG

he ate it

[glass path]

universe is finally collapsing

[arctic patrol]

Uncollpase or something

[dull heart]

oh look

[lyric trellis]

Glass

[lapis oak]

@boreal edge btw CIT about the Purple Distorted Monolith sprite, the front wave isn't animated and the submitter was too lazy to fix it, any news on that?

[lyric trellis]

I like the wind/visuals going up and down, it reminds me of the worms in Dokuro vids

[boreal edge]

what

[lapis oak]

yes

you heard me

[dull heart]

No

[boreal edge]

No like, I have no idea what you're talking about

[dull heart]

you can literally see both monoliths in the spoiler

[lapis oak]

no no no

wait let me show it

[vivid hemlock]

kiri this is so insignificant that im forced to take your liver

[naive ice]

Why screen broked

[queen umbra]

damn that's cool asf
#spoilers message

[dull heart]

either way we need to do some changing to the monoliths I think

[boreal edge]

Sorry I'm inserting 700,000 polonium atoms into your kidneys

[queen umbra]

idk why I wrote this I just woke up, feels like a cavemen looking at fire

[leaden umbra]

Alo

[brave star]

The third wall has been broken

PROTECC THE FOURTH

[dull heart]

No

I already broke the fifth

[steady sun]

funky spoiler

[brave star]

[naive ice]

You haven’t broke the fourth tho. You skipped one

[dull heart]

are you sure

I just referred to you, thereby breaking the fourth wall

[brave star]

[naive ice]

This place doesn’t have a fourth wall

[dull heart]

yeah bc I broke it

Duh

[lapis oak]

@boreal edge

the front wave isn't animated for the purple one

the submitter was too lazy to fix it

[boreal edge]

I'm too lazy to fix it

[lapis oak]

buh

[orchid finch]

What's that supposed to mean

[stiff light]

everclear.webp 272 bytes

[boreal edge]

Now take your polonium atoms

[lapis oak]

😭

curse of sprite

[orchid finch]

What if I fix it in about an hour

[boreal edge]

ok

[orchid finch]

Yip

[naive ice]

Plueytonium

[lapis oak]

yippie

[lyric trellis]

Doze alcoholism

[vivid hemlock]

i might have to kill you

[lapis oak]

THIS WAS KNOWN

[lyric trellis]

Everyone is so nice here

[boreal edge]

Thanks ombgus

[lapis oak]

so mean to me 😢

[naive ice]

Alcodozeism

[brave star]

Sends kiri to the 5th layer of the abyss

[lyric trellis]

That’s literally hell

[lapis oak]

wtf...

[stiff light]

moscow_mule.webp

[brave star]

Felt evil >:3

[stiff light]

eats u

[brave star]

Uno reverse card

Get self eaten

[stiff light]

no

[naive ice]

VORE

[brave star]

No not like that

[stiff light]

🙁

[brave star]

Like I’m being torn to bloody pieces into a cannibal thanksgiving meal

[naive ice]

Yes like that

[stiff light]

ur so lucky im not a mod

[naive ice]

Boring

[lyric trellis]

Wow DoG guys isn’t that cool

[stiff light]

no

[naive ice]

Kill it

[lapis oak]

btw the purple wave behaviour is different from blue wave so look at the back purple wave too when you get to fixing

[stiff light]

sine wave

[boreal edge]

Sign

[lyric trellis]

Cosigned

[brave star]

Post

[naive ice]

Tangets

[stiff light]

meow

[naive ice]

meow

[orchid finch]

yeah I think it'll take more than an hour

[misty thorn]

is that supposed to be the fucking distortion portal

[orchid finch]

not because it'll be tedious but because I have some other things to do

[naive ice]

Balls

[brave star]

meow

[brave star]

Cubes

[dusty tinsel]

Meow

[naive ice]

Meow

[stiff light]

meow :3

[gleaming haven]

#changelogs Is that what I think it is?

[brave star]

WHERE

[gleaming haven]

The dimension where you fight Dog...

[urban cloak]

(no)

[lapis oak]

nope

[lean relic]

uh no

[gleaming haven]

oh ok, well either way it looks cool 😄

[urban cloak]

The Big Crack is purely visual flavor we are not implementing distortion yet

[brave star]

Hello fried green eggs and ham

[urban cloak]

thats a new one

[lyric trellis]

“We didn’t wanna work on the Sunken Sea so we implemented the distortion for sso”

[lean relic]

the place inside crack is distortion yes but you see

[naive ice]

Moow

[urban cloak]

minor setback ofc

[brave star]

Got creative with Seuss stuff

[lyric trellis]

Last fish ai vs yharim release

[oak niche]

Fine by me!

I know you’re joking, I’m just playing along with it.

[naive ice]

DRIVING IN MY CAARRR RIGHT AFTER A BEER!

[shut granite]

a miracle has befallen us all

[naive ice]

WE HAVE A NEW MEME SOURCE

[lapis oak]

no

[urban cloak]

😨

[brave star]

[cobalt wharf]

nobody using these

[naive ice]

When you’re dueling with the knight but there is no end in sight.

[orchid finch]

spoiler gang do you approve

[naive ice]

Ooooo

[cobalt wharf]

does the screen filter rlly just pop in instead of fading in

yucky

[orchid finch]

I'll make some tweaks later

[cobalt wharf]

oh the teaser also pops into the different color too huh

just goes straight from purple to blue with no fade

[lapis oak]

I see nothing wrong

[cobalt wharf]

ok i swear when i watched it i did

it’s late i guess

[boreal edge]

snoozi

[wraith yew]

I’d be pleased if this is what Noxus actually looks like in canon

[dusk bronze]

I MISSED THE SPOILER FUCK

fry has come to save us

[brave star]

Which spoiler is definitely the Dad going to the store for the milk one

[brave star]

Snoriel

[bleak dew]

Are the Calamity Npcs going to receive a shimmer form?

[blissful flame]

guys, I just joined this server, when is the last update of calamity?

[lean relic]

likely

[lean relic]

when xeroc releases

thats basically last content update

[loud remnant]

w h a t

[lean relic]

wrong channel #calamity-mod-talk

[loud remnant]

? okay then geez

[lean relic]

like this channel is for discussing future updates

[silk terrace]

hello spoiler chat

how's the spoilers tonight

[lean relic]

eating good
peak dog spoiler

[silk terrace]

fryzahh always delivers the good cooking

[blissful flame]

ahh i see, will we get to fight yharim?

or no?

and how far are we in the mod till xeroc release?

[orchid finch]

too far to say

[lean relic]

yes

very distant future i must say

[orchid finch]

that'll happen before that eventually

[dusk bronze]

xeroc isn't guaranteed

the current plan is that yharim will be in the "final" update

but if devs still wanna work on the mod after that they'll add noxus and xeroc as optional post yharim superbosses

[blissful flame]

neat, neatt

[sonic sparrow]

ok I’m hyped for calamity again

So hype for when it releases this millennium

[silk terrace]

DISTORTIOOON YEEEEEAHHH

[brave star]

Subworld-ing my distortion

Such awesome news

[spark kiln]

that’s a cool background

[bleak dew]

I’m already hoping it won’t cause crashing issues because it looks so cool and I’m excited.

[normal spire]

It'll cause perfomance issue for sure

[orchid finch]

come ooooon what would a single shader do?

[thorn trail]

Is that the dog place in spoilers

Wtv its called i forgot

[versed kelp]

Distortion

[rose radish]

Only if poorly coded

[sterile sun]

Is arsenal armor in the game?

[valid grove]

What bg?

[spark kiln]

#spoilers

[valid grove]

Thanks

[lapis oak]

Not yet

[gray laurel]

i just realized that the crack is actually a different one from the hole in new sneak peek

[azure oak]

neat effect

[spark kiln]

?

[gray laurel]

the actual hole is not the same as the crack effect

[lapis oak]

It's for creating the same effect as in real life

It's cracked but still holding on there

[gray laurel]

i wanna send that gif of cat with the caption "barely holding it together" and the gif is just almost shatters

but i cant find it

[fringe quiver]

dog vfx

cool

[hoary heron]

Uh

Is it just me

Or does everything in infernum just kinda

Dies

Like they died instantly

I have a wooden boomerang even then it still feels too powerfull

Ough why is everything so fast

[lapis oak]

Hmm?

Not here, #calamity-addon-talk

[hoary heron]

Ok faif

[lapis oak]

This is for upcoming contents

[hoary heron]

But even then in death mode is it still

[fringe quiver]

hey i hate your profile

i hate it alot

[hoary heron]

OOOHHH

[fringe quiver]

like i REALLY hate it

[hoary heron]

Ofc you hate it

You put a facade of a golden apple, beautiful and wonderful

But in your core you're rotten and full of hate

[fringe quiver]

[tropic ermine]

calamity will become real in SSO

they've truly creeped the scope this time

[lapis oak]

Wait... it's not real already?

😨

[tropic ermine]

I would post my :creepingscope:

IF I HAD ONE

[mossy sapphire]

✍️ 🔥

[fringe quiver]

that fucking apple thaqt i hate..

[wide orbit]

What’s the spoiler video supposed to be

[stuck kite]

background

[azure oak]

background visuals coming alongside the "small" DoG rework

[lapis oak]

He's coming for you

[fringe quiver]

devourer tommorow

sso tommorow

distortion tommorow

yharim tommorow

everything tommorow

end of the life as we know it as humanity is exterminated by the hubris created from the endless greed of those in power tommorow

[lapis oak]

😨

[hard hearth]

burgers tomorrow

yumy

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-the-boys-homelander-gif-26204488

[wide orbit]

Hammer of truth gif

[fringe quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-nu-udra-truth-nuke-true-explosion-gif-17849536649452856841

[hoary heron]

Since yoy have HER as your pfp i think you actually like her :3

[fringe quiver]

no thats literally me in the pfp

selfie

irl...

[pulsar cobalt]

is it some sort of bad apple?

[summer shore]

Why are you in the loitet

Toilet

[hoary heron]

You're Yuri irl???

Woagh. .

I thought you DIED a GRUSOME DEATH at the hands of a GOLDEN APPLE ABNORMALITY

Right infront of my very eyes. .

[hoary heron]

Skibidi!

[high scaffold]

finaly, a real spoiler

at last

[hoary heron]

I mean it's a Canto 1 spoiler so it's not that huge so :333

[analog helm]

this apple isn't bad.... It's quite good golden actually......

[pulsar cobalt]

yes shes yuri irl i think

shes also calamitas irl

(that one isnt a joke)

[lapis oak]

That's actually real

Can confirm

[hoary heron]

I did not know that. .

Yuri and Calamitas are the same people??

Woagh

[wicked pewter]

this is how calamity will end, calamtias will be eaten by that fucking apple that i hate

[hoary heron]

All that aura just to be a Canto 1 victim. .

Tragic 💔

[wicked pewter]

that apple is gonna come back in purgatorio trust

[lean relic]

what a calamity

[wicked pewter]

its not like it got killed by hermann or something

[summer shore]

Carnitas would never be yuri

[hoary heron]

You say that like she's not in a relationship with another female!!!

Which makes it Yuri!

[fathom girder]

Dog broke my fucking screen wtf

I'll sue him

[valid crypt]

Genuinely yeah cheese is irl calamitas

[fathom girder]

Can she brimstone

[valid crypt]

@fringe quiver bring in the image

[fathom girder]

...

[azure oak]

the image has not been brought in

[valid crypt]

What THE fuck

[fringe quiver]

im not supposed to behere right now but

#lore-discussion message

there

[valid crypt]

Cheese is calamitas irl

[fathom girder]

Oh it's real

[valid crypt]

You thought i was lying when i said it?

[fathom girder]

I thought she like. Posted a pic somewhere and she looked like clamitas idk

[tropic ermine]

this apple isn't very good, it's quite bad actually

[valid crypt]

Every time you beat up calamitas you beat up cheese

[lapis oak]

Good

[tropic ermine]

burning n destroying my luxurious home I built for cal when I realized she's actually cheese instead

[valid crypt]

[fathom girder]

Making an actual house for calamitas after realizing she's actually cheese...

[valid crypt]

the parmiigianoreggiano hate is crazy

[tropic ermine]

parm belongs on my pasta, not in my stately manor

[mystic eagle]

#spoilers message Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit

[tropic ermine]

how calamitous
how fabled

[mystic eagle]

The Fables joke doesn't work anymore

There's 2 Calamity Fables nowadays

[woeful pagoda]

new cal spoiler goes hard

[tropic ermine]

false they have to reforge calmain first

[mystic eagle]

Then it would be Fabled Calamity, not Calamity Fables

[azure oak]

cant believe DoG might become one of the best fights in the mod

[mystic eagle]

True

[summer shore]

glowup

[mystic eagle]

I finally get to see DoG become good

[tropic ermine]

praying for laser walls' downfall 🙏

[summer shore]

Mortals pray, gods but wait

[azure oak]

at least the body lasers are being shot in a back alley iirc

[valid crypt]

They are the worst part so i bet they have had some touchups

[mystic eagle]

The truth is we don't know yet

The only thing we know for sure is that DoG will be reworked and get cool visuals

[valid crypt]

Until we see the fight yeah we wont know

[pseudo vector]

you’ll see in due time

idk when but yeah

[fringe quiver]

hi im back

The terrarian is you, unless you're cheese, then Calamitas is you

[tropic ermine]

mortal kills gods, mortal kills godkilling mortal

[summer shore]

Mortal kills all

[tropic ermine]

(and also some gods along the way)

[summer shore]

You know what doesn't kill

Portals

And tortals

🐢

[tropic ermine]

you could prolly get telefragged by a portal somehow...?

[summer shore]

ok but that's not the portal killing you it's whatever came out of the portal

[valid crypt]

Calamitas is the terrarian

[tropic ermine]

what if the portal carried you to the evil and fucked up spikes dimension

since literal hell is nothing for the terrarian

[fringe quiver]

The terrarian is you.... Cheese is calamitas.... Cheese is the terrarwian

calamitas is the terrarian

🙏

[summer shore]

then it's the evil and fucked up spikes dimension that killed you not the portal

[valid crypt]

Cant believe calamitas does shadow clone jutsu to fight herself

[summer shore]

how does calamine lose to herself

Is she stupid

Just summon more sepulchers

500 sepulchers

[wide orbit]

Waiter! Waiter! 500 more bullet hell phases please!

[fringe quiver]

Calamitas if she locked in (she just never spawns brimstone hearts thus making sepulcher immortal)

[tropic ermine]

🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬

[summer shore]

Neither of them can kill each other...

Absolute stalemate....

[tropic ermine]

holy shit
we finally found it, the cal clone

[summer shore]

This truly was a forgorten shadow of capamitas

[tropic ermine]

"capamitas" 🗣️ 🔥

[summer shore]

👲

[mystic eagle]

Kappamitas

[summer shore]

I missed this emote I haven't used it since the birth of the universe

[lapis oak]

I don't like original Twitch emotes anymore they're outdated

maybe except D:

[tropic ermine]

not a fan of those in general tbh

[cunning sequoia]

me

[fathom girder]

Maybe calamitas has amnesia

And forgot that the terrarian is her clone

OR

[hasty tangle]

calamnesia

[fathom girder]

Draedon made the terrarian

[lapis oak]

calamitous conspiracy theory

[fathom girder]

It's funny just how open ended the terrarian's story is

Like

They just appear one day

No one really knows why

And then they kill god

[hasty tangle]

they had enough of this shit

[steady sun]

multiple gods

[summer shore]

two and a half gods

[steady sun]

and a consumer of gods

and half a go- yeah

and one member of the species the gods got the powers from

and three giant mechanical constructs with virtually limitless energy designed to be as powerful as/stronger then some gods all at once

and then someone who accidentally destroyed the previous capital while defending because they were too strong

[thick coyote]

D: isnt an original twitch emote

[lapis oak]

aight

I started using Twitch since 2020 I didn't know much

[thick coyote]

No like

Its a BTTV emote

[lapis oak]

🤔 wait really?

damn ok

[thick coyote]

Yah

[thorn trail]

Can confirm

[azure oak]

ares

[fathom girder]

Thank you draedon

[valid crypt]

For this im removing half of kiriwhite

[lapis oak]

??? 😨

[final pine]

if the exos theme doesn't have the things holding the arms together as an audio visualiser i will boycott it

[high scaffold]

How many areses do you have?

[thorn trail]

All of them

[azure oak]

you would shrivel at the sight of my full collection

[lapis oak]

that's a lot of gifs

[azure oak]

i must go now

and also remove it cause it's kinda clogging up the channel

have a gauss nuke as compensation

[buoyant pulsar]

goodnight

[azure oak]

thanatos

[steep ibex]

my personal idea for the terrarian is that they’re kinda just like goku in the sense that they like fighting ever stronger enemies but because of getting so many town npcs they accidentally become a better leader than yharim just because they chill like dat 😎

[azure oak]

thanatos but

[lapis oak]

must go now btw

[summer shore]

Infernum thanatos

[lapis oak]

why short neck

[azure oak]

why does thanatos have a long neck normally

[lapis oak]

secretly a giraffe

[pulsar crow]

To bite you

[neat dock]

HOLY FUCK RHAT SPOILER LOOKS AWESOME

[lapis oak]

he's coming

[fathom girder]

He's doing what

He shouldn't be doing that

[thick coyote]

[fringe quiver]

im so coldddd

[fathom girder]

Can't you just brimstone

[azure oak]

this truly has been an exo mechs

[fathom girder]

Invoked thanatos

[azure oak]

it cut out the mandibles and end of the tail lol

[thick coyote]

Is this how long Thana is in game?

[azure oak]

ye

[thick coyote]

thought so

[fathom girder]

Dude draedon he does NOT need to be that long

Give thanatos the desert scoog treatment

[lapis oak]

sorry he's Destroyer 2.0

need to be that long 🥀

[fathom girder]

Give him LEGS

[azure oak]

extremely normal thanatos

[analog helm]

balding,,,,

[fringe quiver]

plesiosaur

[fathom girder]

Anatos

[azure oak]

exo mechs rework in √(-1) minutes

[fringe quiver]

boy, i wonder what sort of reptiles inhabited the oceans of earth roughly 155 millions of years ago
the ancient plesiosaur:

[polar fog]

am i balding? 3 months old

[lapis oak]

it's over for my nephew

[azure oak]

SSO teaser trailer in 504 fargo months

my phone fell on the number pad and it typed out "7485"

this must be how many hourse until SSO

[valid crypt]

Lmao

[azure oak]

14 may 2026

mark it down

or 13, or 10

google can you stop giving me conflicting answers

ares will be reworked

every weapon will be replaced by another ares torso

and each of those torsos will have its own arms

there will be no end

[raw falcon]

ares squared

[tropic ermine]

oh GOOD LORD

[dull heart]

how many house until sso

specifically

[mystic eagle]

Whoever made the Exo Mechs animations cooked so hard

[dull heart]

How many episodes of House

[dull heart]

iban

[tropic ermine]

this vexes me...

[mystic eagle]

Oh yeah, obviously

[distant raft]

i am in this episode too

[tropic ermine]

I am a black man

[fathom girder]

2457.4279017652713562876361 hours

[summer shore]

All this only for it to shoot a dumbass bomb that barely ever hits

The sparks hit more often than the actual explosion

🥀

[azure oak]

102 days

which would put the date.... in october

[summer shore]

The O in SSO actually stands for october

[azure oak]

SSO SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER

[lean relic]

SSO SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER

[dusty tinsel]

The other s stands for the year 6000

[distant raft]

that feeling when sso is tomorrow

[viral ingot]

Will crates get fixed to not drop hardmode ores out of progression anymore?
Like no adamantite and titanium before the mech bosses.

[lapis oak]

yes

next update

[viral ingot]

Ok good, felt a bit cheap

And the reaver shark?

[chrome gorge]

For me SSO means student services office lol

[lapis oak]

most likely will gone too, devs have spoken about it messing up new Sunken Sea

[dense sundial]

S(SO)
S(EPTEMBER)
O(CTOBER)

[tropic ermine]

S(S(S(S(S(S(S(S(S(SSO))))))))

[fathom girder]

S(uper)
S(mario)
O(sunshine)

[tropic ermine]

imma go out on a limb and say it's not an acronym and actually pronounced "suh-soh"

[viral ingot]

New sunken sea sound nice.

I did for the first time get interested in fishing, is it more profitable from a time-investemnt pov to fish for potion ingredients or just farm blood moons?
Or are there other upcomming changes to fishing I have missed?

[hushed hazel]

the s in SSO stands for horse

[tropic ermine]

horSe
horSe
hOrse

clearly

[viral ingot]

I have no idea what the joke with SSO is, but I also dont know what SSO is even related to

[lapis oak]

Sunken Sea Overhaul

[viral ingot]

ah

[lapis oak]

it's the main point of next update

[viral ingot]

the only exciting thing I found was the inclusion of master mode into calamity diffiuclty progression

But i Hope the sunken sea will finally be worth to even visit at all for any class beside summoner

[fringe quiver]

my name is cheese

hi

[fringe quiver]

That's being killed

[dusty tinsel]

No you are Jane calamity mod

[fringe quiver]

Thats true...

[lapis oak]

Summoner basically getting almost nothing next update, the amount of contents each class getting is like this: Melee > Ranger/Magic > Rogue > Summoner

[dusty tinsel]

Summoner is getting its content in the SSO part 2 stuff

[viral ingot]

?
I thought master would become the base needed for death mode, I did read about it a few days ago

[lapis oak]

Melee already received over 40 reworked weapons as of right now

and still increasing

[fringe quiver]

Thought you meant the separate Master difficulties, yeah that's gonna be a thing

Calamity will only have 2 additional difficulties rather than

four

[viral ingot]

what seperate master difficultys?
Do you mean the current way?

[fringe quiver]

Mhm

There'll be death that's only available on master, and revengeanace which is only available on expert

[lapis oak]

yes, Revengeance will be built on Expert, and Death will be built on Master

[fringe quiver]

Rather than the weird mishmash we have rn

[viral ingot]

I tried master death recently, was pure pain.

My brain itches when Im not on max settings so needing master for death mode is very nice

[dusty tinsel]

Master mode will be reverted to basically base and basically left to rot (I think), but death will make it good 🔥

[lapis oak]

Classic
Expert
Revengeance - Master (alternative)
Death

the difficulty scale will be like this

[valid crypt]

Yeah base master is being left as how the founding devs intended (stat bloat)

[dusty tinsel]

Aren't there like a couple minor changes being kept

[valid crypt]

No calamity ai on vanilla bosses

[dusty tinsel]

But outside of that it's vanilla

[valid crypt]

Afaik no

[viral ingot]

So will legendary mode be less painfull than it currently is or will it get buffs to compensate the removalnof master changes?

[lapis oak]

you don't need Master to activate Death, it's more like when you activate Death the Master building block will also be activated too

because Death is built off Master

[fringe quiver]

Legendary probably won't get much attention i imagine

It's a joke difficulty that i doubt devs intend on wasting their time and effort on

[valid crypt]

Ftw will exist but wont be a focus i imagine

[dusty tinsel]

Isn't legendary mode like a seed anyway

[lapis oak]

Legendary is, not on the regular difficulty scale

[fringe quiver]

Yep

[viral ingot]

So the master selector will be removed in the world screen or how will it work?

[lapis oak]

so they won't make it official

[valid crypt]

For the worthy or get fixed boi on master

[fringe quiver]

Legendary exists to make funny stupid shit, not to be properly balanced or anything

[lapis oak]

most likely still there, because if they remove it it will be a massive crossmod problem, but when you join the world there'll be new UI to choose between Classic up to Death

[fringe quiver]

Has this been said anywhere orrr

[lapis oak]

yes

doze was talking about it

[fringe quiver]

Ic

[lapis oak]

Tringle didn't really want Death to have Master stats but then Doze said Death needs to be much different than Revengeance

so Master as base is needed

[dusty tinsel]

Activating revengeance also activated expert. At least they are going to try and have that work iirc

[viral ingot]

Why are rev and death even seperate modes, couldnt their changes be merged with expert and master completly, considering that expert rev is the intended difficulty

[lapis oak]

crossmodding compatibility

it's like if you activate Death and play with other mods, the Master AIs will be activated for other mods contents (unless said mods have Revengeance + Death changes)

[fringe quiver]

Rev also makes changes to vanilla bosses

[lapis oak]

and it's easier to not have to balance vanilla bosses for vanilla difficulties

[fringe quiver]

Some people might just not want the additional difficulty also

[lapis oak]

so other mods can do it themselves

[fringe quiver]

in a perfect world we couldve just had revengeance as the Harded Modded Difficulty...

[viral ingot]

Considering the heavy balancing that calamity does I would drop crossmod compat completly, but I guess im alone with that opinion

[fringe quiver]

They're trying to tone down on that sort of thing

[lapis oak]

it makes difficulties balancing much easier on the dev team, improving crossmodding, and the devs can focus more on other stuff (which they really want to do and not like sitting there adjusting damage number on bosses over and over)

[vivid hemlock]

hopefully calamity's baseline goes back to being exp instead of rev

[lapis oak]

7 difficulties to deal it > down to 5 > and finally down to 2

so much work got lifted off their shoulders

[hard hearth]

there were 7 difficulties?

[lapis oak]

and they can actually make 2 of them really polished

[viral ingot]

why not ignore other mods, the devs would not have to adjust any number for other mods ever again

[lapis oak]

ye right now Ein, the Master shenanigan

[hard hearth]

oh

right

m*ster

[lapis oak]

it's just like a big bonus

[hushed hazel]

classic, expert, expert rev, expert death, master rev, master death

[hard hearth]

tbh thats a stretch

cause

[hushed hazel]

plus journey (my goat)

[hard hearth]

realistically the only difficulty that was paid attention to was expert rev

[fringe quiver]

journey my beloved

[hard hearth]

in terms of damage numbers

[lapis oak]

the main point of the changes are making 2 Calamity's exclusive difficulties great because now the devs only have to deal with those 2, crossmodding compatibility is like a big bonus in doing that

because crossmod is not always prioritized as seen with new Underworld generation

the next update and likely in the future will heavily change the Underworld generation to be very different and fit with the team's vision

[dense sundial]

In terms of… anything, considering The Fact Fabsolian Master Exists At All, some Death changes making bosses easier (like Brim and Signus), and Classic Crabulon

[viral ingot]

So will building a hellway not be as boring anymore?

[lapis oak]

ye, the big reason is to make WoF not be a pain in making arena

[dusty tinsel]

Wall of flesh should auto generate an arena that disappears upon its death /j

[viral ingot]

Id the hell floor and cealing would not generate as close to eachother anymore would already be a huge win

[raw falcon]

Is the yharon resprite public atm?

[lapis oak]

no

[hushed hazel]

no

[lapis oak]

this is public

[raw falcon]

Okay, cuz I just found that someone leaked the entire sprite

[dusty tinsel]

He needs his shoes on

[viral ingot]

feels like yharon and DoG get respited every update, hope this is the last time

[raw falcon]

so thats not great

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[raw falcon]

bro yharon didn't get a resprite for years

[dusty tinsel]

Yharon hasn't been resprited in like 5 years

[viral ingot]

didnt feel like that

[lapis oak]

Yharon is like the oldest boss sprite right now

that hasn't been changed

[vivid hemlock]

if i had a nickel for every time yharon's resprite got leaked id be a millionaire

[viral ingot]

what is wrong with the current sprite?

[dusty tinsel]

Old

Outdated

[lapis oak]

?

[viral ingot]

that it?