#calamity-update-talk

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lean relic
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Now post that image

still bluff
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why tf did he give such a specific estimate god

misty wren
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hi fluffyskeletroncore

hasty tangle
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in an integer number of minutes

still bluff
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Hi doobie

lean relic
hasty tangle
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im surprised anyone gave an actual estimate lo

misty wren
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its a very specific estimate

still bluff
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That's like
Really specific and founded on literally nothing 😭

misty wren
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better estimate would be like this year q4

hasty tangle
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if its not out by halloween, angry mobs will show up outside every devs' house

still bluff
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True

hasty tangle
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which is the reason why i thought they would NEVER reveal an actual estimate

lapis oak
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the clone factory is ready

hasty hawk
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this AI generated Philip will be shaking and crying once he gets hit with Obsession + fuckton of bleed infliction in Floor of Literature

dusty tinsel
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For a second I almost read obsession as obesity

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My brain is too tired to function

lean relic
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release SSO by Halloween right now or I will super saiyan blue the scal

hasty tangle
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it would be kinda funny if SSO was the third big* calamity update to release on november 16th

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*1.4.5.7 was not big but it was the longest standing version in calamity history

hard copper
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they should release sso a day after silksong

fringe quiver
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It's funny

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sso september-october

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ultrakill june 5th

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deltarune tommorow

analog helm
hot isle
vivid hemlock
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wtf

brave star
vivid hemlock
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brimston premium appearance

hot isle
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real not fake

brave star
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Wtf premium brimstone tier

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Give him an exclusive version of the brimstone patreon tier

naive ice
brave star
terse dew
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you are

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šŸ˜•

brave star
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Jackenstein is based

naive ice
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I’ve actually never played deltarune

cunning sequoia
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you should i think

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first 2 chapters are free

calm tiger
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its worth playing

naive ice
cunning sequoia
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yep

naive ice
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Kewl

mystic eagle
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Toby Fox casually giving out 8 hours of gameplay for free as a demo

naive ice
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One slight problem. I’ve also never played undertale.

calm tiger
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not a problem

winged lotus
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Why does my cursor disappear when I click CTRL

cunning sequoia
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you can play deltarune without playing undertale

naive ice
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Okay

mystic eagle
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Yeah the only similarities are some characters, writing- and artstyle

cunning sequoia
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it'd be better if you did (undertale goes on sale for dirt cheap quite often) but its not required

mystic eagle
cunning sequoia
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undertale is also a fantastic game

dusk bronze
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calamity spoiler talk

cunning sequoia
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any new spoilers lately

dusk bronze
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not here

mystic eagle
barren nacelle
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I had an orange spoil

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does that count

dusk bronze
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fryzahh teased some new dog vfx yesterday ig yeah

cunning sequoia
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neat

mystic eagle
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I like how in the art server there's 2 people streaming

One is actually making art
The other is playing Stick fight

naive ice
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Is the Demo chapter 1 and 2?

mystic eagle
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Yes

naive ice
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Like fully?

mystic eagle
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Yes it's the entirety of Chapters 1 and 2

naive ice
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…ALL HAIL TOBY FOX, OH GREAT GIVER

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PRAISE BE HIS GENEROSITY

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Booting it up

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How do i full screen

brave star
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Toby fox is the god of awesome games besides the beloved franchise characters of the past

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(I love Mario, kirby, sonic, link, etc, but I also love games that Toby fox makes too)

naive ice
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I still love that we get our vessel snatched

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Why is there no spicy option

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For food

cunning sequoia
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spoilerous

dusk bronze
cunning sequoia
naive ice
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Thanks

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Oh ok

dusk bronze
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(stands for four frogs)

shell sapphire
calm tiger
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wouldn't that be 4f

dusk bronze
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shhhhhhh

calm tiger
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close enough

cunning sequoia
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i gotta say its f4ntastic

vast tendon
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I understand your pain... PensiveCore

pseudo vector
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drum mixing is

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very time consuming
and painful

vast tendon
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indeed

pseudo vector
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especially acoustic drum mixing

fathom girder
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It'll be worth it

upper cosmos
valid crypt
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Toby casually deciding to double the size of the demo

pulsar cobalt
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more than double

valid crypt
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Triple

restive wind
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As it stands right now, I think the current sprite for desert scourge is the most polished/best sprite we have seen so far. Yeah, I know the spoiler sprites are unfinished or censored, but it’s spoiler looks profoundly unsatisfying in its current state. Almost all of the other sprites for SSO are so much more polished or visuality interesting. Even the ones that aren’t have a coherent design and seem to fit in with the others. Desert scourge seems uniquely underwhelming, and all of the sprites that I was excited for got scrapped. I hope he can at least hold on to the quality he currently has.

vivid hemlock
restive wind
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Yea I know it’s asking a lot for me to say this, but can he at least keep the current sprite until something better is decided upon? Maybe in some other update?

spark kiln
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no

hushed hazel
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Current sprite is staying until next update

spark kiln
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desert scourge is getting a rework which needs the new design

mystic eagle
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Unironically the current sprite was meant to be removed asap after a certain event

restive wind
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Right.

lapis oak
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current sprite?

hushed hazel
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So you have some months to still enjoy it ig

lapis oak
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it will be gone in the next update

restive wind
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Yea, but it’s an amazing sprite.

vivid hemlock
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not really

lapis oak
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good rendering, not so great design

mystic eagle
restive wind
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Shouldn’t the new sprite at least match its quality?

spark kiln
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which new sprite are you talking about

rich ginkgo
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lmao

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it's looks just as good

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  • it isnt a resprite anymore, it's an overhaul
mystic eagle
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The concept artist wants the sprite removed
The same concept artist was found out to, not be a great person

restive wind
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Right, I’m talking about the sprite spoiler that just two weeks ago someone said was current.

spark kiln
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you mean the cobbled up sprite that isn’t the actual sprite

mystic eagle
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Preferred artstyle also happens to be subjective

spark kiln
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because they haven’t shown the sprite yet only some parts

mystic eagle
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Art as a whole is subjective

restive wind
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Was’t the old duke sprite cobbled together?

rich ginkgo
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do u mean this

rich ginkgo
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😭 😭

mystic eagle
restive wind
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Yes that one.

rich ginkgo
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i genuinely dont see what's wrong w it

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  • it's like 2 parts
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of the actual thing

mystic eagle
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It's also not finished yet

rich ginkgo
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in terms of quality it's fine????

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it's unique and looks cool too

valid crypt
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The sprite quality of the current one is fine
The design is just generic uninspired worm

restive wind
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Are those visible parts close to finished?

vivid hemlock
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yes

mystic eagle
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We don't truly know

valid crypt
rich ginkgo
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iirc new ds is finished

restive wind
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It looks a lot like to color scheme on the old ds sprite.

rich ginkgo
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as in the sprite

hushed hazel
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Idk you can have thoughts about the wip sprite but I’d wait until the whole thing is finished and public before delivering judgement

spark kiln
rich ginkgo
vivid hemlock
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the old ds was a dark brown

rich ginkgo
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seen 10% of it dude

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😭

valid crypt
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There was a old version of ds that was blue

mystic eagle
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There might be alot of new stuff that has not been shown yet

valid crypt
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Iirc

vivid hemlock
mystic eagle
arctic cliff
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i think one thing im glad is that its brown

mystic eagle
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Before the dark brown one

vivid hemlock
arctic cliff
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the current one

mystic eagle
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And also a scrapped resprite yes

restive wind
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It’s fine, I just don’t think it compares to the banger sprites that have been shared here.

arctic cliff
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basing it off just off the cobbled together sprite, it looks neat

dull heart
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i have seen the full thing

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it does

thick coyote
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yes

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wait until yous ee the whole thing

valid crypt
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I prefer the design over the current one

thick coyote
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its peak

valid crypt
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Yeah

rich ginkgo
restive wind
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Ok, I hope you’re right.

valid crypt
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Trust the devs

thick coyote
hushed hazel
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Trust the process

rich ginkgo
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it looks good idk why ur so quick to judge considering you've barely seen it 😭

thick coyote
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its just peak

vivid hemlock
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the current ds is literally just
shiny sand armor, spikes, mandibles

mystic eagle
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I personally do not prefer the new one from what has been shown so far because the colors are a bit too dull for my liking.
While yes, the dull colors fit the theming more, it's called an artstyle preference

dull heart
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-# plus the new one is not made by someone who was revealed to be a pedo

restive wind
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Same here.

lapis oak
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what sprite has been shared here

rich ginkgo
lapis oak
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what sprite you're talking about

arctic cliff
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thats the one thing we can at least have about these new sprites

rich ginkgo
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it isnt dull or bland

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😭

valid crypt
arctic cliff
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they're not made by some creep

thick coyote
mystic eagle
rich ginkgo
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it's a sand worm

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i mean

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reptile amphibian

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living in a desert

dull heart
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these segments shown are a poor indication of the of the full sprite

rich ginkgo
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it'd probably prefer to blend in with duller colors

mystic eagle
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I just said that it fits the theming, but that my art preference does not like the coloring

spark kiln
restive wind
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Some of the sprites I loved are the acid rain enemies and old duke. Most of the sunken sea enemies, and the devourer of gods.

rich ginkgo
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than be all bright

lapis oak
dull heart
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especially the head - it's accurate, but feels VERY different with the full sprite

thick coyote
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oh

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i misunderstood your question

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my b

lapis oak
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what's the banger that has been shared here

mystic eagle
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I'm not saying the sprite is bad

I'm just saying ***I ***don't really like it from what has been shown so far

restive wind
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Bruh.

valid crypt
wraith moon
vivid hemlock
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old duke sprite was scrapped because old duke is being replaced šŸ˜‡

restive wind
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My main problem with that sprite is the strange flatness and lack of detail.

mystic eagle
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Old Duke is staying

wraith moon
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Yeah totally fair I just liked the sprite a lot.

mystic eagle
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(kinda)

dull heart
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it doesn't feel that way with the full one

spark kiln
restive wind
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So wait is one of my favorite sprites being scrapped or not?

mystic eagle
valid crypt
dull heart
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i agree just these segments alone feel off (specifically the head by itself)

mystic eagle
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You got Dev privileges

valid crypt
spark kiln
dull heart
thick coyote
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trueee

lapis oak
thick coyote
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new ds is peak and these little scraps

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dont do it justice

valid crypt
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True

rich ginkgo
restive wind
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I hope you guys can understand my confusion, I have to make opinions based on very little information on this matter.

thick coyote
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You dont have to

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No ones forcing you to have an opinion

valid crypt
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Old duke as a boss is getting ship of theseused at some point

spark kiln
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maybe don’t make drastic opinions lol

mystic eagle
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Old Duke is confirmed to not die

thick coyote
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I dont have a gun to your head saying "You MUST have an opinion on a WIP sprite youve only seen parts of"

mystic eagle
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It will likely be hit with a rework and rename yes, but it's not dying overall

rich ginkgo
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it is being renamed

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and getting a whole overhaul

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that's been confirmed

mystic eagle
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Old Duke is arguably one of the lower priority bosses to make major changes to

rich ginkgo
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it really isnt

hushed hazel
rich ginkgo
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it's an exact replica of duke fishron just colored differently

hushed hazel
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They’re still allowed to have one

rich ginkgo
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and has shittier attacks

mystic eagle
rich ginkgo
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it's bland

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and boring

spark kiln
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old duke isn’t even a bad boss lol

rich ginkgo
plush carbon
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Spoiler talk getting venomous tonight

mystic eagle
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I'm fairly convinced you actually haven't fought Old Duke

rich ginkgo
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i have several times lmao

thick coyote
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I have foguht old duke several times and have a negative opinion becuase I move in a diamond shape and the boss feels like it never actually attacks

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i dont know what the boss does to this day

hushed hazel
rich ginkgo
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you can cheese it by circling it šŸ’€

rose laurel
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Old Duke is a pretty alright fight but it really is just not that interesting

lapis oak
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people can just fucking outrun Old Duke

restive wind
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How is saying I don’t like the direction a sprite is going drastic, especially when I can’t see how much is actually fished and what’s just snippets of a completed picture.

lapis oak
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it's really not that hard to not have to learn and still beat it

rose laurel
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As per usual it has one cool attack and everything else is meaningless projectile bullshit

wild tinsel
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Release sso immediately

plush carbon
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you better do as they say

restive wind
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Also I just learned 5 minutes ago that my second favorite sprite got killed.

wild tinsel
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As they should

cobalt wharf
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ignoring the sprite and design, old duke is kinda interesting if you know about the mechanic the game makes no effort to tell you about ahead of time

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otherwise lol

plush carbon
restive wind
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I was talking about Old Duke.

hushed hazel
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I think old Duke is neat (in terms of the fight) and also has probably my favorite cal music

wild tinsel
hushed hazel
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Conceptually though it’s lol, lmao

thick coyote
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doesnt make top 10 including VCMM tho

still bluff
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OD like many cal bosses could be far far better

restive wind
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The sprite would have fixed its biggest problem.

cobalt wharf
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its not very difficult to make a boss better than old duke

thick coyote
restive wind
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I don’t know.

rich ginkgo
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😭

cobalt wharf
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the problem is making a boss better than old duke with its current design

lapis oak
restive wind
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Almost certainly not.

rich ginkgo
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also it's being made cooler anyways

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turning into a chinese dragon

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or wyvern or whatever

valid crypt
restive wind
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Cooler than the old acid dragon design?

thick coyote
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to me the biggest OD problem is that its yet another nothing burger boss lore wise in a part of the game that should probably only have very important lore figures

dusk bronze
rich ginkgo
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i mean you can always just search up

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chinese dragon

rose laurel
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I think trying to dissuade people from liking scrapped sprites which are still great is wrong, actually

rich ginkgo
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and you get a clue lmaop

rose laurel
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This basically reads as "actually the thing you liked wasn't good and instead it will be made better"

thick coyote
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I also loved that OD concept

restive wind
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Give it better lore then, with the rework/resprite?

valid crypt
rich ginkgo
thick coyote
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give that woman a true1

rich ginkgo
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its like, unneeded negativity

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towards something not even shown yet

rose laurel
restive wind
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I don’t have access to the ā€œbetter spriteā€ yet.

hushed hazel
rose laurel
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It hasn't been started

rich ginkgo
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we dont know what it looks like

restive wind
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Why was it scrapped, OD?

rose laurel
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Triangle has just shared the general direction he wants OD to go

rich ginkgo
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yeah

valid crypt
restive wind
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How can I be happy with the decision if I don’t know why or what’s even replacing it?

rich ginkgo
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you just got told why its been replaced

rose laurel
vivid hemlock
thick coyote
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Only thing Godfish has said that I dislike was the new DS not being up to par quality wise based on bits and pieces of a sprite

Everything else is fine even if i disagree lol

rich ginkgo
restive wind
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I thought they would love it as much as I or many others had.

rose laurel
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And it's not even a Boss I consider a worm

rich ginkgo
valid crypt
restive wind
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So wait their keeping the general design, if it’s still a dragon?

vivid hemlock
rich ginkgo
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yeah..

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lol

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it's not being turned into something else entirely

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it's still a dragon

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js a different dragon

valid crypt
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Dragons vary a lot but yeah its staying acid dragon thing afaik

thick coyote
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LEA are you someones alt

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you talk like you're in patron cord

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but no role?

rose laurel
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Yeah Old Duke is still going to be a Sulphurous Sea dragon

rich ginkgo
plush carbon
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???

rich ginkgo
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they run the doc

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rright

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i mean contributed to it

vivid hemlock
rich ginkgo
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so they're knowledgable

lapis oak
rich ginkgo
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contributed*

thick coyote
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i am confusion

pulsar cobalt
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triangle doesnt only exist in calpatroncord...

rich ginkgo
valid crypt
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I havent touched the future content doc i just am chronically online in like half the cal channels

pulsar cobalt
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he like

restive wind
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Ok, we all like different things, but I hope they would keep the quality up, and move on to the ancient outdated sprites instead of redoing recent implementations over and over again.

pulsar cobalt
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comes here

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and talks to us

rich ginkgo
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what am i stupid

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hodl on

thick coyote
plush carbon
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weird question

thick coyote
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earlier they implied they've seen the full ds sprite

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which is patron exclsuive

rich ginkgo
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dude i think im schizophrenic

valid crypt
dusk bronze
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you should

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it's peak

valid crypt
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To a point i see it as a certainty its good

rich ginkgo
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OH

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i meant cosmore

restive wind
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I do too, but I can’t see the big picture like they can.

rich ginkgo
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idk how i mixed you up with cosmore

valid crypt
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😭

plush carbon
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We’ve seen approximations in here

restive wind
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I’m not a fan.

plush carbon
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Yea idk what about melon screams alt account

rich ginkgo
rose laurel
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Yeah it's a recreation of the sprite

still bluff
dusk bronze
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the actual thing looks much better

rose laurel
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This isn't how DS actually looks like it's just a scrambled amalgamation of snippets Tobias sent over time

restive wind
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It looks like something from 2015.

vivid hemlock
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Okay thats

thick coyote
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what

dusk bronze
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?????

rich ginkgo
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huh

still bluff
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Lol

dusk bronze
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āŒ āŒ

thick coyote
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You lost me thats just hurtful

lapis oak
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ok you need to...

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calm down a bit there

plush carbon
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oh thats not…

lapis oak
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you're seeing Frankenstein

valid crypt
dusk bronze
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calamity wasn't even made in 2015

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would you like to look at the 1.0 sprites

vivid hemlock
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Love this community

restive wind
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I meant the old sprites from the first major progression updates.

thick coyote
still bluff
vivid hemlock
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So true Fluffy

cobalt wharf
fathom girder
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the grey one looks like it's from joost mod or some shit

thick coyote
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Purple Destroyer goes hard trueeeee

plush carbon
restive wind
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It looks like a quality closer to the current hive mind sprite than to the current desert scourge sprite.

vivid hemlock
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bring back my nebula destroyer

rich ginkgo
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idk what you're seeing

plush carbon
dusk bronze
restive wind
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You mean stratus sphere?

plush carbon
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Also Joost mention thats a deepcut
rip

rich ginkgo
# valid crypt

also this picture is like the equivalent to someone drawing this in themselves

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it isnt the actual thing

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it's a guess

valid crypt
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Yeah

restive wind
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I think it’s the colors, and the detail on the parts that have been shown.

mystic eagle
restive wind
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Okay, on the other hand that already looks like an amazing sprite.

misty wren
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its not even close to the actual thing

cobalt wharf
plush carbon
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Deus is a good contendor for boss with the most nothingburger sprite

rose laurel
rich ginkgo
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yeah it's too flat

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why is it all purple???

restive wind
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I can clearly see what it’s building to, and it looks great.

still bluff
misty wren
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like we've gotten almost literally individual pixels at a time for the ds sprite

restive wind
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I’m working with a limited about of information here.

cobalt wharf
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well at least it doesn’t look like it’s from 1987 because this one guy william afton

dusk bronze
misty wren
still bluff
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How dare you slander stratus sphere my beloved

lapis oak
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it was bleak

dusk bronze
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adding protons

lapis oak
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wtf...

flat folio
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The Fluffy-made addon that re-adds stratus sphere is fast approaching

restive wind
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I liked stratus sphere.

cobalt wharf
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stratus sphere with its limit of 3 projectiles existing at any time

plush carbon
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Why do I not know what this is

restive wind
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I can see why it was removed, tho.

misty wren
plush carbon
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When was this Removed

dusk bronze
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1.5

arctic cliff
# valid crypt

honestly despite this being a bad recreation, it looks great to me already

cobalt wharf
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you used stratus sphere to put 3 of them on top of old duke rest phase and that was it

still bluff
restive wind
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Okay, sorry I compared it to the ancient early modding community days sprites.

plush carbon
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Was it a mage weapon cause that’s probably why I don’t know it

dusk bronze
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yes

plush carbon
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I never played mage once back then

restive wind
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Yes.

lapis oak
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Fluffy do not make Stratus Sphere mod

iron dew
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fluffy do make Stratus Sphere mod

cobalt wharf
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i dont think you can rework stratus sphere to fix its problems cuz any rework of it would actually just turn it into nebula mantle but again

dusk bronze
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fluffy make stratus sphere mod

cobalt wharf
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like it has a pretty sprite and that’s all i can give it

pulsar cobalt
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fluffy just add stratus sphere to calamity as ur dev weapon

valid crypt
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Peak

pulsar cobalt
cobalt wharf
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whatever it’s called

restive wind
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It’s three o clock and I have a six hour flight to Michigan. We’re taxing now, I wonder if anyone can find my flight.

dusk bronze
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allied

plush carbon
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Star Allies

valid crypt
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Nuclear terror gonna be peak

restive wind
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I liked the colors, but it’s heavily censored.

dusk bronze
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no it's not??

valid crypt
dusk bronze
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it's just wip

valid crypt
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Nuclear terror

restive wind
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Wow that looks nothing like the sprite I was picturing. It looks like something from Look Outside.

valid crypt
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Nuclear terror gonna be peak

lapis oak
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the censored sprite is scrapped

valid crypt
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Yeah they went from red green thing to dark souls

restive wind
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It looks very Russian egg homunculus like.

valid crypt
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Those wings are its lungs iirc

cobalt wharf
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you know the sprite wip as fuck when it got a silly question mark next to it

restive wind
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Bye, I have to turn on airplane mode.

valid crypt
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Bye

still bluff
velvet flicker
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pre hivemind/perforaters what the best mage wep and armor

valid crypt
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Spoilerous (idk)

pulsar cobalt
still bluff
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Trur

shut ridge
valid crypt
buoyant pulsar
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are they gonna fix scal dash dealing 1,000 damage

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and other silly attacks

hushed hazel
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Probably

buoyant pulsar
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are they gonna like

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not have enemies have a fargillion hp

hushed hazel
cobalt wharf
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the current level of hp bloat is fine imo

strong isle
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Hello there

cobalt wharf
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theyve mentioned specific tiers deemed problematic in terms of weapon strength jumps i think

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i have no clue if this is public though so i should probably shut up

valid crypt
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im fine with ml and wof since theyre major progression parts of ones journey

lapis oak
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wow Patron leak

still bluff
dull heart
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Master (and by extension, death) values will be adjusted down

cobalt wharf
#

not even a patron leak this is a tiercord leak

still bluff
#

Wow schmoovi i can't believe you'd leak

lapis oak
#

leak

cobalt wharf
#

AND ID DO IT AGAIN

strong isle
#

As someone who had doubted the direction of new Desert Scourge at an earlier point
It is cool as fuck and exceeded my expectations even for safer redesign directions

still bluff
#

As someone who paid 0 attention to scourge redesign I think it's pretty neat :D

inland pulsar
#

You guys should make true melee class actually viable

cobalt wharf
#

you guys should remove true melee class

hushed hazel
#

You guys should kill true melee imo

cobalt wharf
#

snail

pulsar cobalt
#

as someone who hasnt seen it, i think its awesome

still bluff
#

It's not a class, it's a subclass
As such there is 0 reason to make it fully viable solo

hushed hazel
still bluff
#

We do try to make true melee at least usable (except scal and exos you deserve nothing but pain on those)

still bluff
hushed hazel
#

True melee is a subclass that got pandered to because it’s ā€œmore realā€ than all the other melee weapons

cobalt wharf
#

scal true melee is still doable it just takes like 15 minutes

hushed hazel
#

Better than when it used to take 90

lapis oak
#

not really

hushed hazel
#

Ein can attest

lapis oak
#

no damage build still got it under 9 mins

inland pulsar
#

Then you guys like range but more defensive

dull heart
#

Blade

still bluff
#

Tbf I wouldn't really call 3x killtime especially usable
It is technically doable though true

inland pulsar
#

Instead of melee class

still bluff
#

Most melee weapons have an additional close range hitbox
That's kinda the defining feature of the class

still bluff
#

Yes
Because this game isn't designed around true melee

lapis oak
#

that's just how Terraria is

hushed hazel
#

RE LOGIC

#

KILL CONTACT DAMAGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

inland pulsar
#

Then why calamity mod doesnt add true melee viable then?

dusk bronze
#

it will

#

eventually

inland pulsar
#

theres true melee damage for a reason

still bluff
dull heart
#

Fluffy I have bad news for you

valid crypt
lapis oak
#

bad news for both of u

dull heart
#

true melee damage type might not be dying

still bluff
#

What the fuck

inland pulsar
#

if calamity doesnt want to make true melee viable then why theres the dmg there

valid crypt
#

o

bleak dew
#

I mean, aren’t some bosses just borderline impossible with just true melee? I haven’t played this mod in forever so I’m probably wrong.

rich ginkgo
dull heart
#

The latest idea is about making True Melee into any melee that remains in your hand

dull heart
#

This counts stuff like Solar Eruption

dusk bronze
#

please

dull heart
#

Heroic is something else that can be applied to any class

misty wren
#

anything that isnt thrown

granite smelt
misty wren
#

also genuine question why have that distinction

dull heart
still bluff
#

...what's the point of having a distinct damage type for that? Some of those weapons are longer ranged than the yoyos lol

dull heart
#

Every true melee bonus will be evaluated to be either true melee or heroic based instead

misty wren
#

ok so like

#

would it be its own damage class

#

or would it be a modifier

dull heart
#

True Melee would be a subclass

#

like now

misty wren
#

like would it read [x] true melee damage instead of [x] melee damage

dull heart
#

Heroic would be more like a modifier

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Probably

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but ultimately

#

This is all very up in the air

misty wren
#

well then thats just confusing because it functions the exact same as regular melee

dull heart
#

not necessarily

misty wren
#

the only real difference is which on hit effects they can trigger or not

dull heart
#

yeah

#

that and damage boosts

#

Stuff like the +10% true melee on the gloves

#

Would probably stay true melee

misty wren
#

frankly thats just dumb

inland pulsar
#

Yeah

#

Only 2 accesories buff true melee and no one uses it

#

Because true melee is not viable and no one use it

misty wren
#

(true melee is viable and people do use it)

dull heart
#

not true really

#

ok that is

#

there are also more than two

#

Glove line
Scarf line
Warbanner
Hide of Deus

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That's basically as many accessories as the entire mage class gets

misty wren
#

it would make more sense for true melee to just be an unofficial distinction

inland pulsar
dull heart
#

it might not display on tooltips

dull heart
#

It's viable in basecal just difficult

#

Well

#

Exception might go to Exos

misty wren
#

sometimes difficult

bleak dew
#

Last time I checked Exos are really hard with true melee due to being out of range a lot.

dull heart
#

But except for exo twins you can do well on every boss

inland pulsar
dull heart
#

for true melee

dull heart
#

not really no

#

there's plenty of true melee choices

lapis oak
dull heart
#

At worst you get post yharon with 2 viable options (drage and Murasama)

valid crypt
fringe quiver
#

@valid crypt melon gun.

dull heart
#

most stages are better

valid crypt
dull heart
fringe quiver
#

today.

dusk bronze
#

yesterday

vivid hemlock
#

killing lea channel

still bluff
#

I'm banishing all of you get out of here

inland pulsar
valid crypt
dull heart
#

True Excalibur

fringe quiver
#

so rude i just wanted to sayhi. to my friend melon gun

lapis oak
fringe quiver
#

youreso reude fluffy.

#

mean and evil

#

ok bye back to the mines

misty wren
#

anyways like if true melee still exists would it not make more sense to just have at the bottom of the tooltip something like Benefits from True Melee bonuses rather than it either reading as its own unique damage type or being an invisible thing

lapis oak
#

True Melee is not a class

inland pulsar
inland pulsar
#

Just make true melee just melee bro

dull heart
#

at least any solution is better than the old one

inland pulsar
#

If you developers dont want to make true melee viable

dull heart
#

X melee damage | X true melee damage

#

That was so bad

misty wren
#

thats

#

objectively false

granite smelt
#

i like to see you have a crack at it

misty wren
#

because true melee is objectively viable

inland pulsar
lapis oak
#

we already told you, multiple times

dull heart
#

i definitely made gilded proboscis scal viable on accident

#

Before I nerfed it

granite smelt
#

you should buff it again

lapis oak
#

True Melee is totally viable

cobalt wharf
#

so like you could just throw that on everything

lapis oak
#

it's just the nature of Terraria and close range combat

bleak dew
#

I mean, vanilla terraria was not really balanced with true melee, but I’ve actually never used true melee only in vanilla so not like my opinion is fully accurate.

misty wren
lapis oak
#

make it more diffcult

cobalt wharf
#

i know the distinction between true melee hits and true melee damage type wont be addressed anytime soon but i think we should put more light on that issue its a little fucky

dull heart
#

Gilded Proboscis could one shot the guardians I think

#

for sure healer

still bluff
#

Good job doze

valid crypt
#

😭

misty wren
#

how many extra zeros did you add to the damage

dull heart
cobalt wharf
#

no.

dull heart
#

However

bleak dew
#

Does true melee also include spears? I can’t remember.

dull heart
#

The weapon itself may not scale with true melee damage

valid crypt
dull heart
#

but it should yes

misty wren
#

but yeah the distinction between melee and true melee is fucky at best

dull heart
#

I personally think it'll just be an internal distinction

#

for proccing effects

misty wren
#

there should still be an indication of that distinction in game so you know what does and doesnt proc those effects

dull heart
#

that can't go in the item tooltip anyway

bleak dew
#

What I assume true melee is,
Swords without projectiles(unless the projectile is spawned on true melee strike)
Some Spears.

No Flails, Yoyos or Boomerangs, or javelins.

misty wren
dusk bronze
#

also doze
yknow how they're changing rev to be expert exclusive and death to be master exclusive?

dull heart
#

yes

misty wren
#

yes doze does know hes a dev

dusk bronze
#

readd malice for legendary XD
it'll be peak (joke)

dull heart
valid crypt
dusk bronze
dull heart
#

And so stuff like Terratomere procs hide of Deus up close

cobalt wharf
# dull heart true melee hits deal true melee damage it's one and the same

true melee damage: grants additive damage to only weapons that are marked as true melee
true melee hits: does not get the damage bonus but counts for on hit effects such as soaring potion and boss resistances. mostly on projectile broadswords like terra blade, however NOT on special weapon hits on things like ark line, it needs to directly count as a broadsword.

the distinction is misleading at best. imagine thinking "oh i get a lot of blade hits with my exoblade so i should use this item that increases true melee damage over something else" but actually it doesnt do anything at all because of a fucky definition.

urban cloak
#

I've literally never heard of this as a mechanic and I'd be quite surprised if that has existed up to now

dull heart
#

The damage itself scales off the weapon type, but the up close hits deal true melee

dull heart
#

Or Soaring Potion

urban cloak
#

If I were to hit an enemy with the blade of True Nights Edge it would count as our True Melee Damage type?

misty wren
#

honestly just make true melee effects be procced not necessarily by true melee but by distance from an enemy when dealing melee damage

bleak dew
#

I mean, Terraria itself has some wonky mechanics, scourge is a melee weapon while javelins are ranged.

dull heart
#

It should

urban cloak
#

That's not a projectile I said the blade specifically

dull heart
#

But our true melee damage type is historically very uh

urban cloak
#

That is an item

dull heart
#

the blade uses a projectile

#

Doesn't do swing dmg

#

due to the reworks

#

Use Meowmere for example

cobalt wharf
dull heart
#

That would proc Soaring Potion and Hide of Deus

still bluff
#

Just make them all true melee, rename the entire class :)

dull heart
#

Up close

urban cloak
#

I'll just dig around in the source code later and confirm after I eat

#

This is like

#

the first time ive heard about this

dull heart
#

it's why soaring potion is so good

#

90% of melee procs it up close

cobalt wharf
#

i documented all of this like a year and a half ago

#

and ppl are still spreading misinfo

dusk bronze
#

something something flat circle

still bluff
#

Unfortunately specifically your posts aren't real sorry schmoovi

cobalt wharf
#

WAAAHGH'

pulsar cobalt
dull heart
#

I keep meaning to go through this list and fix them all

#

I just have not yet

misty wren
pulsar cobalt
dull heart
#

yeah

#

all of those swing the sword but the swing does no damage

#

this is why the main sword swing has a pierce cap

cobalt wharf
lapis oak
urban cloak
pulsar cobalt
#

oh

dull heart
#

Hits that count as true melee damage do not scale with true melee dmg boosts tho

#

Unless the weapon does true melee dmg as it's class

lone echo
#

i have never seen the gradient role colors used before now

still bluff
#

The gradients are awesome

terse dew
#

nope

#

They're evil

hot isle
#

where is cheese calamity

still bluff
#

Fine I'm removing your gradient role you don't get to be a caldev anymore

valid crypt
wicked temple
#

hii fryzah and fluffy and melon gun

valid crypt
#

Hello creature

hot isle
#

cheese calamity

vivid hemlock
#

primordial soup

brave star
fringe quiver
#

cheese

hot isle
#

cheese

valid crypt
#

cheese

brave star
#

cheese

hot isle
#

no

#

evil

brave star
cunning sequoia
hushed hazel
#

Goupert Funkerdinckle

terse dew
#

That's a weird way of spelling merkalto

brave star
#

Garbo is now Dededeluxe mode

still bluff
wicked temple
#

p

hard hearth
#

stab

brave star
#

I wonder how powerful p is

fathom girder
#

from lies of p?

#

he's pretty strong

brave star
#

Oh I didn’t know lies of p was a thing

#

Interesting discovery

fathom girder
#

i

inland pulsar
fathom girder
#

oh yeah that game is banger

#

YEAHHHH

#

we love lies of p in this house

inland pulsar
#

Lies of Peak?

fathom girder
#

real

#

so real

brave star
#

I meant the floofy p user here

inland pulsar
hushed hazel
#

Is p from lies of p here?

#

Yoo that’s pretty huge

still bluff
#

Noway

brave star
#

Or is Azzy the p the real Lies of P

inland pulsar
#

Lies of P x Calamity

#

šŸ™

brave star
#

Summon Lighty to tell them the code is kinda

wicked temple
#

p

velvet flicker
#

whats the best armor and wep for mag pre skeletron

lapis oak
#

stop talking that here

#

this is for upcoming contents

hot isle
#

guys what is the calamity mod

#

never heard of it

brave star
vivid hemlock
#

thats not public i dont think....

#

at least in this server

arctic cliff
summer shore
#

uh oh!

vivid hemlock
#

also since when did you get the cool dude role

summer shore
#

yesterday

fringe quiver
#

altraxia is #cool now

arctic cliff
#

the fucking sounds

#

thats so fucking cool

vivid hemlock
summer shore
dull heart
#

L

#

imagine being blue

fringe quiver
#

imagine being green

lyric trellis
#

Yellow roles

terse dew
#

😐

lyric trellis
#

It’s okay you’re orange

terse dew
#

The day merkalto becomes yellow again is the day the world ends

lyric trellis
dull heart
#

I have not as of yet received a reply from the creator of invoked stargod :(

summer shore
#

I don't know

#

Ask crow

lapis oak
#

@buoyant pulsar WHERE U GET THIS

lyric trellis
#

Xyk’s house

arctic cliff
#

add 29 muons to each of crow's atoms

lapis oak
#

wtf!!!

arctic cliff
#

BUDDY for once you're not the one getting stuff added to each of your atoms

lapis oak
#

peak!!!

arctic cliff
#

do you want me to just do the same to YOU?

summer shore
dull heart
#

I should spoil mirror blade

vivid hemlock
#

edalb rorrim

dull heart
#

mirror blade is cool

#

also probably the hardest to design rework I've done just in terms of figuring out what I wanted to do with it

#

(not in terms of actual execution)

lapis oak
#

holy shit I knew it!

#

DD line will go so fucking hard

#

šŸ˜‹

#

it's peak

sly sandal
arctic cliff
#

wait

#

this involves charged swings

#

the forbidden oathblade video

#

you dont say

#

hellkite? in my devil's devastation line?

lapis oak
#

no

arctic cliff
lapis oak
#

Altix already said DD line won't be a fake AotC šŸ¤”

#

that's why Claymore and Devastation were removed in the first place

fathom girder
#

finally

cobalt wharf
#

dont think this is public

lapis oak
#

generational leak moment

summer shore
#

Crow disappeared immediately

lapis oak
#

actually a generational leak

summer shore
#

Martyr

cobalt wharf
#

it’s been like 30 minutes i guess that shit is just up

#

i do remember this now though

lapis oak
#

witnessing a rogue dev in realtime 😨

cobalt wharf
#

my first thought was i wasnt sure if this gimmick would be super interesting in gameplay

#

click left click 4 times then click right click 1 time

#

but im not playing it obviously

lapis oak
#

of course it is because it's peak šŸ—£ļø šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„

#

I speak for my people!

summer shore
cobalt wharf
#

its peas

hard copper
vivid hemlock
lapis oak
#

!!!

arctic cliff
vivid hemlock
#

my secret lair

arctic cliff
vivid hemlock
#

thats not my secret lair

arctic cliff
#

you're trying to push me aside

proper pine
arctic cliff
#

thats what you want to say, but i know your lair is in that server

#

a better secret lair would be in a place noone would ever think would be a good place to hide a secret lair

vivid hemlock
#

i literally have this

arctic cliff
#

well, someone is gonna need lungs even more.

velvet flicker
#

best wep and armor mage pre wof ?

lapis oak
buoyant pulsar
#

30 HOURS NO SLEEP WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

im just trying to make it to 9 pm so i can crash and fix my sleep schedule

buoyant pulsar
#

give them money now

#

it's based on tachi from ram

#

tachi is probably my favorite bot as of now

buoyant pulsar
#

we had tea and crumpets

#

it was swag as fuck

buoyant pulsar
buoyant pulsar
hasty tangle
#

L scammer hasnt figured out what all the scammers are doing these days to bypass the auto link deletion

#

pitiful

cobalt wharf
buoyant pulsar
#

sorry for ping reply schmovovi i didn't read your abt me

#

im so tired rn.

cobalt wharf
#

its ok ur the first person to actually read it

buoyant pulsar
#

instead of just throwing a sword, tachi has like an anti gravity sword that floats following the cursor

#

holding left click pins it in place and releasing shoots it in the opposite direction of the cursor

#

plus upgrades do fun stuff, like the harpoon one lets you stick enemies together

cobalt wharf
#

im sure id need to actually look at it to form a real opinion

buoyant pulsar
cobalt wharf
#

reply pinged again btw XD

buoyant pulsar
#

oops :(

buoyant pulsar
dusty tinsel
#

Reply ping moment

lapis oak
#

generational leak

dusty tinsel
#

Kiri are you ready to become the wires wither

buoyant pulsar
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

lapis oak
#

buh it's Xyk

#

so it's an actual spoiler

#

what other videos u got

pulsar cobalt
#

no its clearly a fake xyk

cobalt wharf
#

xyl lol

lapis oak
#

if Xyk posted those too then that's allowed here

dusty tinsel
#

That's Kiri's alt

buoyant pulsar
#

ok i'll get the other one

pulsar cobalt
lapis oak
#

hell ye!

buoyant pulsar
#

check this shit

lapis oak
#

we getting another!

buoyant pulsar
#

i love ram i love ram i love ram

pulsar cobalt
buoyant pulsar
#

chat i will send the spoiler if you all promise to go check out ram's steam page

lapis oak
#

oh that is known

#

for a while

#

when the crossover was announced

buoyant pulsar
#

Random Access Mayhem on steam :3

pulsar cobalt
dusk bronze
pulsar cobalt
buoyant pulsar
#

get someone else with a role to send the link

pulsar cobalt
#

šŸ’„

buoyant pulsar
#

or just download it or whatever

dusty tinsel
#

I clicked it and my account is hacked

buoyant pulsar
#

oopsies

dusk bronze
pulsar cobalt
#

šŸ’„

lapis oak
buoyant pulsar
#

fucking gigantic sword slash :3

lapis oak
#

DEVIL'S DEVASTATION ITSELF

buoyant pulsar
#

the music is rad

#

xyk always has the best music playing

boreal pewter
#

Oh hello Devils Devastation

lapis oak
#

BIG ENERGY SWORD

buoyant pulsar
#

hi xyk...

boreal pewter
#

Im glad people like em