#calamity-update-talk
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This looking like a whole ass rework over a few touchups so the boss is tolerable
i have a texture pack enabled that revamps backgrounds
so is the whole shattered background thing just now the new background or is it for something specific in the fight like an attack
shader attack 😇
Dog spawns in by shattering through the background 
and then he attacks you irl
the tweaks to the fight have honestly been done for some time now
the visual stuff im doing out of my own volition
like the girl from the ring
actually, thats it
dog forms the ring himself
just to spice up the fight a lil more + they wouldn't take me very long to implement
ring... like... old Astrum Deus ring...
the swarm
aww man
now we just need to get a new shader for yharon
thats wild
Is this supposed to be dog?
dog my beloved
I did see him, that's why I asked. Looking fire tho
that... makes no sense
new dog finally gets aura
he looked a bit different that's why
for a multitude of reasons, this being one of them
^
he looks the same
really? I thought he looked less purple
literally looks the same, it's just the lighting
it's just dark
DoG finally fitting the hype of an interdimensional god eating nameless serpent is gonna be peak
DoG becomes cool for once, it’s peak
it actually looks like a battle for the fate of terraria now
this shit's beyond peak
finally you're fighting an interdimensional god devouring serpent instead of purple destroyer
wait the minute
back to the small sneak peek Doze posted
this phase 2 DoG right here only glows purple gems
Now he looks different
maybe a set of gems glows to indicate the debuff
not yet
❓
prob the same concept will be used anyways
that's... not coming in 10 years
the resprite is still far away
the new sprite is for the final rework
That resprite is for when it gets the actual rework
this rework is just temporary because dog was decidedly the worst fight in the mod and it needed an improvement
This is just stuff to make dog tolerable till then afaik
final rework? good one, like it wont get another 🧌
Screen effects
Fabsol doesnt run calamity anymore
new phase 1 DoG you can see blue gems glow very clearly
the purple/blue shaders are gone
-2 glorp shaders real?
no the glorp shaders actually went to you
😭 ???
Nah i killed them
monoliths are also gonna let you do this instead of just glorp shaders
I forgot that part peak
finally......... a reason to use calamity monoliths....
they need to update the Monolith of the Accursed still
it's kinda... smelly
I want those embers outside of Scal fight
i was waiting for someone to see this
I haven't fought DoG for a while I forgot 😭
nah normally they both glow
ye I know
ahh
ok
but yes
in phase 2, the glowing gems correspond to the attack cycle
so does the background
phase 1 DoG only has blue gems
yup, that's just due to the sprite
only the head and tail have pink bits so i left it all glowing
oh, I thought phase 1 won't have Extreme Gravity
aight then
anyways the new visual for the debuffs are very nice, now I don't have to look at my buff slot anymore
👍
We got DoG rework 2!?
I always play in Death 😔
very excited to see what's coming!
Thank god the devs are fixing the boss backgrounds
becaue my god they've been HORRIBLE
you might have to be killed for this
Evil color shader
the solid color being overlaid in question:
wtf did I do now!!! 😭
be on my screen
having the same moon lord pitch black background but with none of the other moon lord screen effects, only a simple color shader, for multiple bosses is too much
fuc u
woah!
🤬
Its against you its prompted
shut it catboy
I aint one
uhhuh
So you agree i aint one??
you deserve it
yea sure totally
Doze is a dev stfu
im pure n innocent :3
???
-# im being sarcastic dumbass, them being dev doesnt actually mean too much
meow
True
orange is a MID color
Ok boomer
white is better
orange makes you the man
and i can stick it to the man
Overdone's Boss Overhauls

does that even exist anymore
Maybe the drinking potion use style
This is terraria
There's no way they deleted it
use style 13
guys i think somethings wrong with my seashine sword i dont think it should be impaling me
looks like regular seashine sword behavior to me
yeah my mod might not be super multiplayer compatible i have literally no idea
i would actually appreciate letting me know what multiplayer bugs you see
for now its just the animations
im not sure if the uhh
eoc drop is meant to have more kb or not tho
hmm
actually i can prob just check rn how it looks in singleplayer
L no embed
L
scam be gone
Thanks mods
ok yea the kb is a lot more pronounced
like
it actually looks like knockback
the next time im in a mp session ill show u how it looks ok?
there's no next time
for you
😢
sounds good
I think I know what to do to fix animation I just
Have to do it
We're fucking winning
Yeah
ah shit i dropped my phone
(it's fine i dont mind)
Current DoG getting new visuals despite a rework on the way wasn't in my bingo list
Current DoG is getting a temp rework on top of the visuals
when the boss is so ass you give him a bandaid rework just so he's Tolerable until the actual rework comes
🥀

Tbf
all the bosses are probably getting reworked in some fashion now that fab is gone
At this rate dog seems like its gonna be a actually good fight
Or atleast
Good for cal standards idk
Visually gonna be epic
it was said it would only be the best fight possible with its current design
which means it won’t be amazing
iirc the big sprite's still a wip
all speculation here
but fixing up the sprite is a tall fucken order
because it was initially made to try and replicate the DoG fanart that was made for that one dmdokuro song cover
trying to make it work and make sense is probably hard af
i mean
they did make it work
Personally, I think that might not've been the greatest idea to begin with
I mean, I generally like that design even if I feel like there could be more to it, but personally, I think limiting it to being in the realm of that old cover art just feels...well, limiting
This sprite was made on fabsolian shackles, so we don't know if heart is really satisfied with this design
ill be honesti dont think fabsol has anything to do with that
Well, even if it continues to be this sprite, I'll still like it a lot so I don't mind that much.
at this point i think drastically changing DoG's design would probably be a bad pr move or something even if i personally dont really see the appeal of it too much
But yeah, it's a pretty good design itself either way
ive stopped caring
i think part of the design concerns is that he's on the album cover
Also I get that, though I will say I'm on the side of "You shouldn't let your community keep you in a chokehold"
I see it as a reason, but I feel like it shouldn't be a main reason
what does this mean specifically
dog is on the album cover for the music
okay why is that a design "concern"
i do not understand
Because everyone knows what he looks like through that cover art
Because it is generally a bad pr move for the thing that is on the album cover to be nowhere in the game
theyd have to hit a men in black move
It's good because the cover art isn't bad
it's bad because it kinda restricts creative liberties to a degree
phase 1 couldve been better if it wasnt designed around the 2nd phase
I assume a good portion of his sprite tweaks are focused on improving the p1 sprite
Idk if people still dislike the p2 sprite
it depends on the person
I feel like people have seen the P2 sprite being based off the album cover and now think that basing it off the album cover is inherently a bad idea, even though the album cover is literally just the face and leaves other parts open to interpretation (particularly the parts that many people may not be a fan of like the body, big mandibles, and it being metal)
it was p much a decision heart made
cuz yea album cover
I am indifferent towards the DoG design for the most part
I feel the same way towards it as i feel towards the current design
after seeing the doc it really feels like that lmfao
the scoog, the slime gods, the hive mind and perforators, cryogen, DoG, ravager, poltergast, old duke...... like literally everyone (almost)
Which is to say it's pretty iconic and not really a outright bad design or anything but it also dosen't really do anything particularly interesting
Dog's tail
i dont think dog keeping the galaxy tail would be enough to redeem it
its inconsequential really
Yeah but I miss it
It was cool
For me at least
Well you’re gonna have it for a few more years in-game anyway so it’ll be fine
it's difficult to stand out when you're a worm boss
or when you're DoG and people expect a lot from you 
i like the big sprite but i would've loved the old eel like art
Rather than design, I think it's more important to find a way to make his dialogue more noticeable.

Because I hardly look at the corner of the screen to see the dialogue
tbf it's difficult to make everyone happy so it's all to what the devs collectively think it's better lmfao
DoG voice where it actually yells at you
I'm not saying to have voices of course, I think we've already said that it doesn't make much sense for Terraria, but something like putting little messages from him appearing in the middle of the screen would be nice.
he doesnt
im pretty sure heart is still displeased with it though
id like to see the design be spiced up too
it is really fucking high quality and looks amazing but at the end of the day it is just the same purple worm in HD
i havent seen heart say anything about it, only opinions from the other artists
I can't think of a good example but something like that is pretty visible
i think heart made a comment on it or another dev quoted heart
or im just stupid
but i know some of the artists are displeased with dog specifically because it’s design is just bland
voice acting in terraria doesn’t work
good news
stip(?) said they're doing something with the text
Doze
man i can never keep track of which devs say what
I have done this
I had a pretty cool idea for how to do it
likely will extend to other dialogue too
still a little hard to read but that's mostly because you're avoiding the worm trying to eat you at mach speed
clearly the solution is to add voice acti-💥 💥 💥
the text should cover up your entire screen 🗣️ 🔥
it should make the text box obnoxiously large and make it wobble
yeah there's literally no better way to do it than right now idt
make text follows you just like the HUD 
Genuinely got no idea what exactly you guys are gonna do for the boss chats
i personally think the dog design is too basic, and genuinely needs to be replaced
Iban decided to do something very different, and people liked that
why shouldnt we?
L
is real
also theres some design choices that i think severely detract from the sprite
oh
how about one
the mandible shape is wonky as hell
we're talking about heart's sprite right?
ya
p2 specifically p1 isnt that bad
p1 is worse????
i mean, i can see why its subjective between either phase
anyhow
we've had this exact convo for long enoug
mandibles are overused in terrarias designs and the shape language therefore
has beccome objectively boring
these are all of the worm type enemies,
if we had to de-mandible every worm but one, dog should be the one to keep them
the most interesting and standout ish one, is the vanilla wyvern
how come, theyre indicative and recognizable of like, some kind of centipede though no?
and theyre associated with destroyer and eater of worlds
it invokes the feeling of devouring large things
hence why eow has them
With all of these in mind, I'm in love with how the wyvern is technically one that counts
like, in no justifable way, does the destroyer need the mandibles, cause theyre also not contributing to the flow and shape design at all
Like, the only non-mandibled non-worm of the group, it's so out of place and I love it for that
yeah destroyer should be a drill worm
Woah desert scourge spoiler hidden in there
mandibles are never for eating lole theyre for pinning down prey
where
see: many beetles,
(there is no desert scourge spoiler in the image)
This looks like scoog
thats current
the current scoog
lol
those who scoog
Oh wait, really? It looks so weird scrunched down like that
the one designed by... a prior he-who-shall-not-be-named
it still feels like heart's dog could crush providence in those
thats cause its huge
not cause it has mandibles lole
it would be the same if i gave it a gigantic mouth like
it's both imo
does that suddenly work
i also gotta mention proportions too
well hey my big mouth guy can eat gods so it works!
yeah no theress multiple factors lole
Bigmouth is actually hiding some crazy powerscaling
i feel like while they are LITERALLY enormous, they're proportionately... I think it's smaller, but I haven't actually compared it properly to other worm mandibles
I also think that DoG has nothing forcing him to be another worm with mandibles
and that if anything, he oughta be looking different
With this in mind actually, what if...it had a mouth like one of these?
not that interesting of a shape
its overused
theyre not really contributing to the design, moreso a design choice thats been passed down the generations of resprites or other worms
if you can somehow come up with an arguement FOR the mandibles then like
be my guest
the innate mandible worm terraria pipeline
add more worm bosses please!
Oh boy time to bullshit a reason
i'm not great at explaining my thoughts but i do think mandibles work thematically for dog
okay.
One can argue that DoG’s mandibles are iconic to him
DoG could have mandibles due to needing to pin down and incapacitate large targets before consuming them, and his armor allows him to use his speed to turn into a spear of sorts to handle dangerous threats
How's about that
i agree with both of those
and that therefore removing it would be a reduction in that factor
dog's mandibles are a reminder of its destroyer clone origin
they are iconic cause he keeps on being sprited with them
iban made a design that became widely recognized as the official dog even after 22
Dog is from the distortion, I dont think he should have the generic worm look, something more otherworldly would be better imo
No that's what the body lasers are for
Exactly
if i designed dog i'd probably make the mandibles themselves into a sorta mask-holder thingamajig that has this black hole distortion sphere and thats how he consumes essence or whatever the lore is now but that opens up a whole nother world of design issues
i generally don't care about tradition and keeping things how they are but like
dog is the most iconic terraria character outside vanilla
I think dog at the very least HAS TO STAY a worm boss, it’s too engrained into him
something being iconic shouldn't be that big of a determining factor if you can come up with a more creative design though
iban's design is a good example as tobias said
what kind of mouth should dog have?
well that's situational though
like
yourre saying this CAUSE he has mandibles its just a defense, not a justification
if i removed the mandibles and gave him laser eyes and a gun i could also somehow make that sense
mandibles aren’t nearly as iconic as the fact that dog is a worm
I do remember a big point for keeping the face generally the same was to stay faithful to the album art
Which I think is a reasonable request, though I personally would have preferred a brand new design
i think he should still be recognizable as dog tho
make dog mandibles into the black things around the portal gun from portal
iconic doesnt mean good and as long as the new sprite has a recognizable shape
And have him actually shoot portals
🔥
Quite honestly, it was a silly decision to pick the most resprited boss in Calamity to be an album cover
i imagine its possible to still keep dog recognizeable while giving him more unqiue shapes
probably
kind offff boring;
Body parts account for situational things, usually
i'm just really really attached to the face shape of heart's sprite
this dog must have eaten yharon
My eyes aren't a multitool
While I think it is interesting, I wouldn't advocate for it being official
space worm but doesnt really speak to dog's character in a good way
Yeah
it's giving deus way more than dog
its super cool though i would def take inspo personally
It doesn't really convey anything other than its cosmic grandeur
cosmic horror worm
but wait IT DOESNT HAVE A MOUTH, HOW COULD IT EAT GODS?? GGRRRRR RAAHAHAHHHH!!!
Yep
KILL THROUDEN KILLL THEMMM NOWWW
he actually does iirc
FUCKKK
IT CAN'T CONSUME
insanities
no its not shown therefore its clearly not there
!!!!
you've heard of the 2 day provi design discussion now get ready for the 5 day dog design discussion
New design for DoG should be a massive ass realistic human mouth for the head and nothing elss
true
CORRECT
bast statue worm boss
This should be the dog resprite
dog design discussion is eternal
if you say worm boss three times in the mirror fluffy appears
i think youre onto something
older variant but there’s like tiny teeth there
ssob mrow
ssob mrow
ssob mrow
Peak design wait hold on
I think this was how dog looked when I first fought him
same here
armored digger????
im gonna be honest tho
It was quite literally a destroyer reskin at the time
the best dog design was his original p2
Fought like destroyer basically too
embed fail
It was silly
Wait this was the original Mechworm
also no that design sucks
it doesn't even have eyes
calamity Overhaul looking worm
Daedalus worm
I do like how angular this one is
Exactly
devourer of gods but he is so retro
he looks very mineable
NONE of the dog designs since have had that same angularity
This DoG sprite is SO different from everything else
Mechworm to accompany
what about the one that was randomly super dark gray
Yes
Huh
I have never seen this actually, now im laughing so much at this
joostmod lookin ass
joost!
this one looks edible
eleven.
Oh right
eleven devourer of gods resprites.
they cut his fucking face off 💔
finally he looks close to now
That one i remember
Not biased at all...
heck he's the only one where the mandibles don't just feel like body but longer
Beetle mandibles
by far the best mandibles by no contest
Famous lightning shape
They look more like a moustache
?
clearly the worm with the best mandibles is astrum deus 

Doesn't it kinda look like a mustache
no
unironically? you’re right
they need to keep that mandible for his redesign
True
This guy
idk what invoked stargod is and i'm too afraid to ask
Invoked stargod needs to be made official
ok
this looks like he’s from a old flash game based on a cartoon
Is segments not a number you just add
DoG rn is 100 for context
The limit is technically 200 (which this beyond a shadow of a doubt exceeds)
Prolly a couple thousand segments on that worm
I could make that work
Maaaybe this uses a mod that breaks that cap
yes
I should reach out to the creator of the sprite and see if they have the original files
The sick and twisted i = 0; i < 200; i++ NPC for loops...
I think Cal purged most if not all of those but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if mods with less knowledgeable devs, or simply mods with a ton of antiquated code, still had a bunch of those
probably
still need to make a rogue weapon that on hit, spawns a projectile that splits into two projectiles that on hit splits into two more projectiles
I have sent them a dm
funny
It would be funny ig
YES
Invoked stargod superboss that replaces astrum deus
This should happen infinitely but they inherit the lifetime of the projectile that spawned them
:(
good call
not replace deus that's lame
Wrath of the Stargod
You think astrum deus is spawning in and then this thing cranks the fps to 2
Genuinely I have no idea how on earth to make this work in a fight
Demon train fight but in terraria maybe
Give it destroyer ai
There's easily enough segments to make it go from the top of the world to the bottom to form a wall
wait what if instead of splitting
At which point it shoots lasers
It just spawned this
this thing shows up and eats DoG right when you're about to kill it
Infernum provi style
eats nameless too
Eats it like the hotdog swallower
Powerscalers going crazy with this one
and then I make the fight end by it getting eaten by AoE
The only way to kill it is by shoving avatar of emptiness in there and watching it crumple like a soda can
like a love triangle for powerscalers
halfway throught the fight yharim is going to turn to the screen and say "terrarian... you must know... i am multiversal+.... i beat goku..."
And then a green slime falls from the sky to ends his suffering
And calamity lived happily ever after
yippee
you're telling me this green slime fried this yharim
New moonstone crown gif
Explodes
God
Now every time I see or hear the words "love triangle" I think back to the Bill Cipher image
Muscular, long-haired Bill haunts my nightmares
Lol
no
This Sprite was funny
The first time I saw it I thought it looked like straight out of a Contra game
star of the god
I literally did not see yours ngl
I was joking anyways
uhhhhhhhhh
😶
holy shit this looks like something i've done!
hi spoiler chat what is happening
did a dog design convo happened? i think a dog design convo happenmed
crickets
hello??????
yeah like imagine a huge-ass drill instead
that's like way cooler
Sunken Sea Overhaul part 1 tomorrow?
today!
i know it isn't but i always think of this as the eye
it's like cyclops ares all over again
This is low key the best DoG sprite ever
invoked stargod vs dog resprite who wins
make them homing like eye of belial from tboi
like it pierces then splits, and those two home in and split again etc
Yeah it's a bit bland I agree
I was trying to invoke this like flowery imagery, bc I imagine dog as a weaver of reality as well as a consumer of it. He weaves and spreads it like flowers if that makes sense? But the design is not the most successful with it
Also yeah I wasn't really working with what dog is in cal, tbh I don't really like anything about it (not lore not design nor his character)...
Main reason I finished it is because I wanted to draw something but can't draw anything new due to artblock
Ibans dog is still the best dog, it has a very solid snake design from another world
hot take
the horns are bad
for dog specifically
The horns are good because they're a clever way of incorporating the mandible shape while not being literal mandibles, and they give him grandiose and regal feeling
he's not grandiose or regal
he's a little bitch baby
the design language does not translate to his personality imo
With different personality and goals
Being fr I hate dog being a bitch baby egomaniac
also mandibles work the best for dog because his entire thing is eating
huh
i personally think that the egomaniac part should stick, but imo its going quite too far in some aspects
i know i severely disagree with a dev's opinion on how that should be a surprise (provided as PART OF the explanation on why they didnt want dog to eat provi)
If you take devourer of gods literally
Sure
But I think it's not very creative
Imo I think for a design of Devourer of Gods, it ought to emphasize the part where he devours
When you can't even say
He can eat gods but it doesn't have to be his one and main thing
it should be
Devourer of gods can be a metaphorical title
I think it's a cool thing to focus on
but we're ultimately quite different in that respect design wise?
then what the fuck is the point
he was hired by yharim specifically to devour gods
ignore that
i think its also important to factor in lore for these designs
Offtopic question
How likely do you think xeroc would've had empress of light ai if they were coded by fabsol
nil
unfortunately i cannot answer
I'm also in the patreon server and I don't remember anything from there
im gonna give credit to fab if he had actually gone all the way to xeroc he'd probably actually learn something
Wait im not really too catched up on calamity lore did DoG actually devour any gods to get his name or is it just title for him ?
Has he learned anything from the last >9 years or so
he did
No need to make progress on the mod if its continued development paid the bills
but for lore questions you should go to #lore-discussion
oh sorry bout that
You don't have to take titles literally and change the lore if it's lackluster
Some battles are not worth fighting
devourer of god's thing has always been that he eats really powerful things, often gods
even in the old lore, when "god" wasn't a specified term for something specific, he'd still regularly target what would be sometimes called gods
he was going after providence and had targeted Astrum Deus, both of whom were referred to as gods
new lore specifies what a god is, and Devourer of Gods had went after gods
thank you for just reciting the lore
Old lore he was the nibbler of a single god
were the DoT's ever canon
I like that iban's dog feels much more like a cunning manipulative slippery snake
dog is a dingus. he dingle hingle gingle gongle a single songle
honestly they could just rename the guy if they wanted
peak???
eldritch enough for me atleast
aren't eldritch aesthetics typically "go my tentacles/deep sea motifs" anyways
it's a bit reductive but yknow that's the main thing they are
Well yah I guess, but there are other ways to do eldritch lol
Majority of the eldrazi from MTG don't have tentacles and they sure look eldritch
I don't think either DoG will be going hard into the eldritch department regardless? to my knowledge
if Distortion has typical mainstream Eldritch theme Calamity Mod gonna become Sea Mod 😢
so many fucking aquatic
so I hope not
I am turning you into an eldritch abomination
😭
fair enough
Mind you they ain't worm shapped
a 3rd take of an eldritch distortion w everything involved w that would be interesting I suppose
(I say that knowing full well there's barely anything distortion-related made besides DoGs)
Changelog 681 - added KiriWhite as an eldritch abomination miniboss during the blood moon
such hostile changelog...
can I summon using a suspicious looking kiri
peam modded content
They can be more than that.
Actually I lied basically every eldrazi has little tentacle like things
But still they have more than that
yeah you're right
yea definitely not



i guess it'd be frustrating if DoG had an actual fakeout late into the fight
That's cool though
What else do you want
Nothing (space reference)
We can always have more worms too
55 days until time between BH and SSO part 1 is longer than between R&D and draedon update
does it?
this just looks kind of cute, if anything
he looks more like a creature that is capable of sentient thought
current/upcoming DoG is more beast-like
Can someone explain the difficulty mode changes
rev will only be available in expert mode and death will only be available in master mode
all the ai changes in the vanilla difficulties will be reverted
i think that's it
🔥
That doesn't mean expert and master are just higher stats then right?
expert and master will be exactly what they are in vanilla
calamity modified expert ai. what they're saying is calamitys modifications to expert ai will be removed, and return to what they are in vanilla
Oh it means calamity added changes
yeag
what does this mean bro
so rev off master
and rev off expert
or what
it means expert will range from negligible changes to a few actually noticable changes and master will be stat bloat
just like the founding fathers intended
For a second I thought they were returning expert mode into a lesser old master mode
even with rev on?
master returns to stat bloat thank hod
no
if you're playing expert you can enable rev
master sprime will be missed
So wait are the death master changes being removed or relocated to death mode
best boss in the mod too no competition
gone
oute
Dang
😔
😔
no more whatever the hell is going on with md golem at the moment
Eh some addon will probably put them back
calamity will lose a lot of difficulty then
probably
things rarely stay dead forever in this community
They better not touch gfb
the little goblin at the back of my mind is saying "good"
nah i doubt gfb is changing much
Literally been planning that with a friend group for months
it always was the meme mode
i don't even think fab had too much to do with it i think most of the changes there were yuh
theres more with every update
Must have been a breath of fresh air
like uncapped speed momentum capacitor
between myself and yuh
i made some monstrosities like
Judging by the sprite it's still for the "old" devourer, right?
perforators having laser walls
What could it even be
Who is responsible for filling my inventory mid EoW fight
or dog spawning 35 teleportals
fat fuck DoG won't be here for a while, this rework is just to make him a more tolerable fight in the meantime
yuh made all of exo mechdusa and supreme [ultramage]
Screen shattering effect kinda looks like that one attack from wrath of the gods
that was fabsolian
i think
Just fill your inventory with sand before the fight 
idk going off the eely axolotly design (thus slippery snake)
this sucks
does it
yes i don’t want to have to play master mode to play death
if there are no actual changes then it sucks
yes
i'd imagine there will be
the change just makes death harder in like the worst way
Devs would rather spend their time on something else instead of maintaining 7 difficulties
if master and expert death / rev are the exact same except for stats then there’s nothing to maintain
just balance expert and master will play out as it always does
it’s literally just more damage and health
there isn’t much to maintain
i doubt they'd keep death at all if they didn't intend to make any changes to it
i mean
its the objective highest difficulty
the current mapping of difficulty is that
I'm spoiling it
classic... is classic, the "easy" mode
expert is the "medium" mode and includes stat changes as well as surface level AI changes (vanilla's changes + whatever expert changes calamity bosses have)
from there it branches into 2 paths
- rev remains the "calamity difficulty" of the mod where it includes a bulk of calamity changes and mechanics; you get most of the content this way
- master (vanilla) where you just get stats buffs
death combines the revengeance changes with the stat buffs of master, with its own, smaller changes on top of it (thereby combining both elements of the game's hard mode + a bit sprinkled on top)
and yes this means stat coalesces
there will be 3 boss damage values (classic, expert, master) instead of 5
Master is better AI on enemies and new attacks 
"""better"""
Worse*
master wont even have ai changes when the devs de-fabsolize a bit more
Disgusting.
exo mechs rework in *** *** minutes
YES
YES
difficulties that are actually distinct and matter instead of "go my 18 permutations"
with minimal differences
altho ideally I'd prefer if cal stopped being only balanced to itself in rev tbh
Yall can buff true melee 
why wouldn't you guys make expert the new "rev" and master the new "death" for maximum debloating
no
it's already going in that direction last I heard? with rev being expert exclusive and death as master exclusive
why not just combine the two "paths of difficulty", consolidate to 3 for ease of balance/a little crossmod balance
Rev is not expert exclusive and desth is not master exclusive 
is it not slated to be or have plans changed
Because 2 new difficulties trigger funny chemicals in people’s brains. And people would throw a massive fit if modes were removed even if their changes were ported to expert and master
The plans are to make it so they are iirc
sigh that's it? they throw massive fits towards a bunch of changes anyway
idt "because people are attached to it" holds that much weight?
for the sake of argument, it'd be like them not doing the postml flattening for balance and compat reasons because "people are attached to the giga dmg numbers and now stuff is nerfed how dare you!!"
Theres a chance it gets moved to post ml
Post-ML flattening was seen mainly as positive by the community because it allowed them to combine calamity with 50 other content mods
moving revengeance & death changes to expert & master would probably make crossmod worse instead
this is trying to further that, no?
does it really?
everything from vanilla and calamity would be on calamity's more difficult expert
while other mod content would be on vanilla expert
i'd imagine it's for the sake of people who want to play cal but don't want the difficulty changes
so all of the vanilla and calamity content would be relatively more difficult than everything else
that's the whole reason they're removing all of cal's changes to vanilla expert ai, after all
I suppose
I'd imagine this takes ruinous amounts of work and that's why it's not done but
hypothetically, what's stopping them from also scaling down cal/vanilla changed content to actually match vanilla expert level stats-wise
it taking ruinous amounts of work probably
fair enough
byeah i think it's for the best to leave the vanilla difficulties alone and instead have revengeance & death as sorta "optional modifiers"
leg+death+maso?
yes that would be very great
its never gonna happen but if there's any consolation
legendary death is the stupid mode
because rev boss damage is removed, calamity defensive equipment is properly balanced towards the sane expert difficulty numbers
(and we intend to nerf stuff so defence damage isn't the only thing holding it vaguely together)
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that's something atleast
tbf vanilla's defensive stuff on its own is also only held together by defense damage, it's stupid as hell so yk we'll see how that actually goes
I'm gonna be honest I'm not the biggest fan of defense damage either and whether it actually fulfills its stated goal
but I'm not actually good at the game/balancing whatsoever so not my place to talk abt it
it does do what it's meant to do atm, though the result of the defensive powercreep over the years means it still has a pretty hefty impact on balanced builds
best outcome would be to scale it down a ton so it reaslistically only has a significant impact on actual facetanking
I'm down for that yeah
I like defense damage as is
If you're slightly good at dodging, the consequences of getting hit are pretty minimal
defensive accs, boss damage values, and consequently defense damage have all scaled up far far higher than they need to be
please for the love of god work out 🙏
considering vanilla already makes facetanking very possible before you account for any cal items i doubt we'll be able to remove it 
would be nice though
Just buff boss damage by insane amounts 
😭
Is the DoG fight less laggy then it is currently despite the better visuals
It's less laggy yeah
Peak
I heard Doze(?) say that alot of the lag came from checking if DoG is at 1 hp or not, which if it were to be at 1, it would destroy all currently active lasers
thats impressive
Done, when will you become UnDone
38 more bars to calamity
August fifth
marking this down to remind you
sound good
yeah permafrost will drop some next update
What
Whyyyy
yeah sorry frigid bars are returning and htere will be 37 bonus variations of it
5 MILLIONS PEOPLE CONFUSE
is it me or moderator gradient is super super subtle
that's because it's not a gradient at all
no like he'll drop some bars
he's gonna say some mean shit next update
he'll be spitting fire one could say
quite ironic for a ice mage
can't wait
good thing there's no cirrus to say something like for an ice mage he's kinda hot
its a type of cloud, i believe?
kanye when he sees the archmage pull up..

idk did they misspell "citrus" or sth never heard of it
ares
yknow
wouldn't it
make more sense for dog's first phase to be armored and second phase to be unarmored
storm weaver style
trading defense for speed and lethality as a desperation move
maybe dog didn't view the terrarian as a good enough threat at first and later realised that it probably needs it's armour for this one
Dog is egotistical as fuck i dint think the guy would see wearing armour necessary until later in the fight
i feel like its armor probably does more harm than good in terms of raw performance though
it helps not dying
like it gives him a ton of defense but it makes him slower and less agile
which is generally what you'd want while actively dying
And people still wore plate armour when it was relevant, i dont see the issue
idk i just feel like he would perform better when he's not encumbered and can just move in his own body like normal
but like. silver chariot style
tbf silver chariot goes from squishy to squishier
:(
but light speed...
I havent watched jojo
DoG may be faster without armor but he's still a huge target
Ultimately someone with armour is gonna do better then someone butt naked
didn't you know NEO is known for its high defense...
idk i thought the entire point of the armor was to stroke his ego, not the other way around
cause it's all ornate n shit
It was to make the guy able to fight stronger gods
Yeah its ornamental but that wont stop it being functional
if he gets rid of the target quickly he wont need armor
if he doesn't and starts getting beat up, he's gonna get some extra help
idk i think it makes sense
also just, having him do the same thing as weaver would be kinda boring
omw to devour some gods
especially since they're becoming more and more disconnected from each other
i guess but i didn't mention it as a parallel, more so just cause it made sense
you're damaging the boss's armor to break it off
then you kill it once it's exposed
yeah but it would feel weird doing that to two bosses that are so close in progression
especially since both of them are worm bosses from the distortion
putting on armor because he feels threatened also works
it makes it clear that DoG is actually intelligent
and not just a wild animal like Weaver
who depends on its natural armor
And also dog trying to fight you without properly preparing like not getting armour is much more in character
Imo
ok i can see that
that definitely makes sense, and actually does work as a parallel
new exo mech named "poseidon" based on giant clam will be added in SSO 
only way to beat it is with the horse annihilator on sale for free
exo horse sounds kinda fire
auric horse
miracle horse.......
horse horse…………..
hi guys
i've spent the last 2 days mixing drums
help me
i wish you luck with you're mixing of drums for i cannot assist
need a blender or are the drums a little too hard on the blades
?
buy a lawnmower
Unmixes your drums
That's evil
Yes 

fixes your amen
evil and intimidating drum solo
love your work !
if youre on vc later ill actually join for once
the existence of cdmusic implies that of casettemusic
blu-raymusic
hop in dev vc later homie
bet
calamity mod
why don't you just buy an automatic mixer
if it works for cookies it works for drums
what an endless escapade
endless escapade mentioned
go sail to explore the islands
assuming its not gonna be multiplayer 😔 (I wonder why)
mod looks sick tho
i dont think so
-# TYESKI jumpscare lol
oh wow
it’s gonna explode the server hosts computer 
Well
nah those little islands don’t look too big
this is hard 🔥
whats the best mage wepaon preboss
spoilerous
spoilericious
SSO will add miracle matterite ore that spawns if you eat exo prisms
peak
the real question is
how do exo prisms taste
skittles
apotheosis
sour skittles
not only is that (intentionally) the wrong tier its also like actually the worst shadowspec weapon 
how spoilerous
when update?
never
i think it'll be like those candies that start popping in your mouth
triangle gave the estimate of late september or october but its not concrete
Tringle posting
mm geometry

