calamity-update-talk

[buoyant pulsar]

i assume the cal clone one is less likely?

[twin juniper]

I wonder if dragon hunter armor is changing with old Duke being killed (unless the new guy is a dragon probably)

[buoyant pulsar]

her ost has some stuff from hardmode like left alone (brimmy), plus the interlude that plays after would be messed up in terms of chronology

the aerospec ranger armor looks so good btw

[azure oak]

iirc it's already likely to become innacurate anyways since it contains hive mind motif

[buoyant pulsar]

but it is a little odd to me that the dragon hunter armor is obtained two steps before yharon in progression

wouldn't you just use godslayer

[hushed hazel]

✨ options ✨

[buoyant pulsar]

maybe they should make the armor a more gimmicky dog tier ranger sidegrade armor

[azure oak]

OD is related to the dragons already but will be so much more heavily after the ship-of-theseusing

[twin juniper]

Heard it’ll be designed to be good for killing yharon

[azure oak]

and even then dragon hunter will be available before DoG

[buoyant pulsar]

why would i use a pre-dog armor for yharon though

when i can use post-dog armor

[final pine]

i think it's meant to be an scal exos situation

[pulsar cobalt]

no

the idea

[twin juniper]

Maybe something to counter his dash or just straight up damage boost on him

[pulsar cobalt]

is that old duke drops the dragon hunter weapons n armour

so theyd be tailored to be more effective on yharon rather than dog

[buoyant pulsar]

this

[pulsar cobalt]

yknow

the

dragon

[pulsar cobalt]

fuck you mean "this"

[buoyant pulsar]

but why would i use dragon hunter when i can use armor from the next step in progression

[glass path]

theyre asking if godslayer will overpower dragon armor

[buoyant pulsar]

godslayer

yeah

[valid crypt]

Because dragon hunter would be viable ig

[pulsar cobalt]

why would it overpower if the intention is to be useful on yharon

😭

[glass path]

one armor is on the tier you fight yharon

the other is meant for yharon

[buoyant pulsar]

wouldn't it be overpowered against dog then

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[valid crypt]

Not necessarily

[pulsar cobalt]

because dog and yharon are two seperate bosses

[buoyant pulsar]

what specifically would make it good for yharon, that isn't just raw stats

[pulsar cobalt]

which means u can add stuff that will work on yharon but not dog

[final pine]

aggressive as all hell homing

but not pierce

[pulsar cobalt]

homing still works on dog

[valid crypt]

Single target is prob bad for dog

[pulsar cobalt]

it targets head n tail depending which is closer

[valid crypt]

Being the worm and all

[buoyant pulsar]

is it gonna be a glass cannon set then or something

[final pine]

ok i have no idea dog is such a pile of shite as is

[pulsar cobalt]

single target is also good on dog

[valid crypt]

Bru

[pulsar cobalt]

due to dog having lower defences on head n tail

[final pine]

why is corinth prime so good on him then

[buoyant pulsar]

only if it homes or if you have good aim

[lone plume]

chat, is there a possibility for a forbidden oathblade - devils devastation line rework?

[final pine]

already done

[buoyant pulsar]

i think thats happening

[azure oak]

has already happened and will release in SSO part 1

[pulsar cobalt]

being susceptible to single target doesnt automatically mean ur invincible to multitarget

a boss

can be both

[lone plume]

woah wait really? will they be getting thier own right click attack?

[pulsar cobalt]

we dont know

[final pine]

then why are we worrying about something being unviable against dog when it keels over and dies against everything

dragon hunter wise

[lone plume]

what does SSO mean?

[pulsar cobalt]

sunken sea overhaul

the next update

[pulsar cobalt]

what???

[lone plume]

oh yeah I saw that too, honestky im iust hyped to see how theyre gonna buff forbidden oathblade. rn its just trash

bladecrest + old lord fusion would fo crazy

I saw doze's calamity weapon rework, if its anything like that well then next update is peak

[buoyant pulsar]

so you're telling me an armor set you get BEFORE dog, this extremely difficult boss that gives you a huge leap in stats after beating him, would be as effective as (if not MORE THAN) an armor set you get AFTER him?

[glass path]

itll prob have special properties against yharon

[twin juniper]

devil’s devastation right click and it’s just godslayer dash

[buoyant pulsar]

ok it just seems silly

[glass path]

?

[buoyant pulsar]

why not just have it be a dog tier armor crafted with old duke scales + cosmilite or something

a ranger sidegrade armor

that's more gimmicky

[glass path]

its called options

[buoyant pulsar]

but theoretically performs better

[lone plume]

it should be like exoblade dash

[twin juniper]

Make the set bonus cancel his dash (also folly dash for funny) specifically

[buoyant pulsar]

sidegrade is options...

[pulsar cobalt]

y e s

[glass path]

its not old calamity where after one tier your old weapons become obsolete

[pulsar cobalt]

like

[buoyant pulsar]

what's the point of making dragon slayer armor before yharon if it's just gonna perform worse against dog than whatever else you have

[pulsar cobalt]

holy shit this stuff happens all the time in hardmode

[still bluff]

can you add one more faint disclaimer every time you end up posting this please i want to see how messy it gets

[pulsar cobalt]

where a thing has a specific niche that makes it more wanted than other armour sets

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah but prehardmode isn't linear

[pulsar cobalt]

i wasnt talking about prehm

[still bluff]

^^
gear doesn't actually have to get outclassed the instant you beat another major boss, especially OD gear can be used on yharon

[pulsar cobalt]

😭

[still bluff]

at the moment it can't because POWER SPIKE

[twin juniper]

Nah exoblade doesn’t let you go thru enemies
Old lord claymore do and devil devastation should do that too (mostly because yharon)

[buoyant pulsar]

i feel like beating dog is a special power spike bc it's a pretty hard and hyped up boss

then you get your cool edgy deathwind bow

that deals a MILLION damage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and makes the pulse bow 'pew!' sound effect

they should make it do that

they should make the vernal bolter make the whoopie cushion sound every time you fire it

and they should make the projectile destroy blocks instead of sliding on them

and i think they should let me be a dev too

[still bluff]

i'm banning you from the dev server in advance just for that

[buoyant pulsar]

anyway its 3 am and im experiencing psychosis, have this cool camera sound

i'm bed

🛏️

[mighty geyser]

because? it's from a pre-dog boss?

[granite smelt]

smh

[fathom girder]

Armor sets usually have some sorta niche that can make them work past the tier they're obtained in

Vanilla does this pretty well

You can technically use orichalcum armor till post golem

[azure oak]

i will never use aerialite again after arsenal tier 1 comes out cause it looks fun as hell

[pulsar cobalt]

wat if aerialite rework is funner as hell

checkmate

[azure oak]

ok but is aerialite customizable

checkmate atheist

[pulsar cobalt]

ok but do u know its not customisable

[azure oak]

lack of arsenal in aerialite

[pulsar cobalt]

doesnt need arsenal for something to be customisable

[azure oak]

also arsenal will give you the guy

[pulsar cobalt]

example is murasama

[azure oak]

he

[pulsar cobalt]

hes DEAD

i ATE him

FIVE hundred calories

[azure oak]

die

[hard hearth]

doesnt need to be, it has galeforce therefore its already perfect :D

better than arsenal,,.,...,.,

[late eagle]

Arsenal mechs...

[slate folio]

spoiler: ||"NO! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME!!"
the 6 tmod apples:||

[azure oak]

sunken sea overhaul is a collective hallucination

[dull schooner]

mass histeri

[azure oak]

a

[slate folio]

What 3 years of waiting does to tmodlets

[azure oak]

calamity will collaborate with lockheed martin to make the exo mechs real

[fringe quiver]

what are each of the weapons meant to represent...

[lean relic]

i know 5 apples in that image
idk about two

[naive ice]

I know good and bad apple, but what about the rest

[lean relic]

these two are from spooky mod

[naive ice]

Is it actually called that

[lean relic]

yes

[slate folio]

Custard and midnight apple from spirit

[naive ice]

Okay

[naive ice]

Got it

[lean relic]

we have

Suspicious Looking Apple in Consolaria mod

[hard hearth]

[viral merlin]

SSO eventually

[dusty tinsel]

The exo mechs are already real

I saw them

[azure oak]

they've been real for like, 3 and a half years now

[hard hearth]

whats an exo mech

[azure oak]

one of draedon's rgb gamer rigs

[hard hearth]

ohhh

so theres 3 exo mechs then

red green and blue

right?

😊

[azure oak]

each individual mech has rgb lighting, dunno why draedon needs 4 rigs tho

[pulsar cobalt]

rrgb

[fathom girder]

He needs them to simulate minecraft seeds

So he can find rare anomalies

[dusty tinsel]

I saw them flying over my house irl

[flat orbit]

is the DoG rework still happening?

[molten grove]

THE DoG rework? no
A DoG rework? yea

[flat orbit]

ok sick :3

[molten grove]

and Another DoG rework much later: yea

[flat orbit]

was just curious

[dry whale]

the neverending DoG rework cycle

[flat orbit]

I can't remember is the funny DoG grid attack from infernum or base calamity

[molten grove]

[dry whale]

peak...

[hasty tangle]

its been a really long time since dog got a rework

[hasty tangle]

and even longer since dog has has a good version

(literally forever)

[molten grove]

has DoG ever had a Good version

[mystic eagle]

Pre 1.0

[hasty tangle]

no, thats the point

[dry whale]

before his existence

[pulsar cobalt]

geniunely...

no

[worn vine]

DoG will devour himself confirmed

[pulsar cobalt]

every time ive seen a version of dog called "peak" i just

[molten grove]

the vanilla destroyer is not a good version
.

[pulsar cobalt]

see videos of it

and its just

really bad

[flat orbit]

when are they removing DoG

[mystic eagle]

Never

[dry whale]

before destroyer

[molten grove]

eater

[mystic eagle]

The Devourer of Gods is just too iconic

[dry whale]

yup

[pulsar cobalt]

i havent fought bh dog but if it barely changed from pre bh then its still probably

bad

and samey

[hasty tangle]

dog hasnt had any major changes in so long

[flat orbit]

remove every boss except astrum aureus and ravager

[dry whale]

give DoG fighter AI

[pulsar cobalt]

🔥

[worn vine]

iconically reminding how cal bosses are just vanilla

[flat orbit]

remove DoG's ability to fly

[molten grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021598579611144253/1194144554115399680/2024-01-08_21-03-30.mp4?ex=685f77c7&is=685e2647&hm=342864a0a90da62564f736a8e951e288fcaba9cb5f181aa649242298cde429fb&

[flat orbit]

peak

[mystic eagle]

Wtf

[fringe quiver]

lol lmao Lol

does dog actually have those sounds ingame

[pulsar cobalt]

the shadow hands are peak

[fringe quiver]

wait

[valid crypt]

What the huh

[fringe quiver]

thats deerclosp

oh my god

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[fringe quiver]

that explains the sounds

[dry whale]

leaked DoG rework

[molten grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021598579611144253/1194146624428048495/2024-01-08_21-12-02.mp4?ex=685f79b5&is=685e2835&hm=dfd3ebcbc3686210d7ccb5273ff8d436fcd38a6c5165d274b6fa06c98f018e06&

[flat orbit]

DoG if it was peak fiction

[molten grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021598579611144253/1194140696932794468/2024-01-08_20-44-311.mp4?ex=685f7430&is=685e22b0&hm=21ca45b2845c746838d1e87a66a9e28f5cbd1c3c10acfa5a73b8f65f3bc30880&

[dry whale]

all of these are better than actual dog

[glass path]

We need a compilation of these

[valid crypt]

True

[worn vine]

we need the lorde dog

[molten grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021598579611144253/1194150089841725521/2024-01-08_21-25-53.mp4?ex=685f7cef&is=685e2b6f&hm=39de9494243c2279abf00d23e8fa2e2a1da4ba7e517b92d621933948d522e14c&

[flat orbit]

just replaced DoG with astrum deus

[empty yarrow]

DoG hit the ground too hard

[hasty tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141015746051326105/1233938605731479644/togif-2.gif

[pulsar cobalt]

@dull heart is this your rework?

[agile latch]

Dog after absorving the 7 human essences

[dry whale]

DoG with blazing wheel AI

[dull heart]

Yup you got it

[pulsar cobalt]

wild

adding shadow hands to deerclops is such a brave move

[raw falcon]

why does dog with fishron ai lowkey kinda work better than current dog

[dull heart]

Lol

What would happen in phase 3?

[pulsar cobalt]

because it actually dashes at you

instead of just going faster than you can

[flat orbit]

isn't that like already infernum dog

teleporting or whatever

[dull heart]

Away fishtron teleports is very different

The way*

[fringe quiver]

pin this

please

its peak

please

[dry whale]

test it

we need to see

[fathom girder]

Infernum DoG ass attack patterns

[flat orbit]

I actually don't hate DoG

wait nvm I haven't played base calamity in like a year

[dull heart]

Me neither now that I fixed him

[flat orbit]

I just remembered that I've been like only playing infernum

[hasty tangle]

not like he's been changed at all in like the past, what, 3 years?

[flat orbit]

altho I did just start a base revengance playthrough so we'll see

[pulsar cobalt]

yea pretty much

i dont think he has had major changes since 2.0

[dull heart]

honestly

dog with storm weaver AI would also be better than current dog

[pulsar cobalt]

lol yeah

[flat orbit]

DoG with desert scourge ai

[hasty tangle]

DoG with dog ai (the town npc)

[fathom girder]

Dog with literally anything would be better

I'm pretty sure

[flat orbit]

remove every worm boss

[fathom girder]

Give him skeletron ai it would be better

[flat orbit]

including the vanilla ones

[balmy plover]

Ahoy spoiler-discussion
what is going on 👋

[flat orbit]

all 9 of them

[hasty tangle]

dog talk

[fathom girder]

Totally real dog rework

[balmy plover]

Alrighty then

Real quick;
is the exo obelisk/monolith sprite being replaced?

I am curious.

[flat orbit]

when's the next update that's gonna force me to restart my playthrough

and was it a bad idea to start a playthrough yesterday

[pulsar cobalt]

[flat orbit]

I wasn't asking for a specific date I was just wondering if it's close enough to completion that I'm gonna be forced to restart my playthrough

[lapis oak]

No

[flat orbit]

sick :3

[lapis oak]

It's months away

[flat orbit]

thanks

[pulsar cobalt]

its a time away

(deadlines dont need to mean a specifc date btw)

[dull heart]

Destroyer AI:

[fathom girder]

My point is only proven

[dull heart]

no

[fathom girder]

Wdym destroyer is peak

[hard hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/541062803394396192/1348729684090818560/image.png?ex=685f90a6&is=685e3f26&hm=a9d6e8d55a31437f17245ed0d0632adc244b3eb17ce3962fd5c3bbca25190572&

[fathom girder]

[tropic jolt]

nuh uh

[fathom girder]

Wow what'd i miss

[lean relic]

uhh funky and peak dog

[cinder hearth]

Ok then

Give bat AI to DOG head

[fathom girder]

Hell yes

[cinder hearth]

Keep its current velocity and damage tho

[azure oak]

give DoG golem ai

[lean relic]

1.4.5 news
If you know what this is, then you played palworld

-# btw moonlord reminder

[hasty hawk]

HD moonlord

[hasty hawk]

10 more delays for the summoner update

[pulsar cobalt]

OH RIGHT

STATE OF THE GAME

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/terraria-state-of-the-game-june-2025.143573/

[dense sundial]

Please please please Relogic take this as an opportunity to make Moon Lord not terrible

[pulsar cobalt]

fuck you true eocs now only use the mini deathray and do it three times as frequently

each which their own seperate delays

so u cant ever sync them up

[dense sundial]

Master-Deathpilled

[hasty hawk]

nah

thats more Legendary-Death pilled

[cobalt wharf]

i know what this is because i’ve played super smash brothers actually

palworld not slick bro

[dusk bronze]

ooo in the tml july stable they're adding a chat command to delete all unloaded tiles

that's sick

[desert garnet]

Im curious how it will handle the entire abyss

[fathom girder]

Deletes the entire abyss

[dull heart]

such as loadout support for modded accessory slots
oop

me wanting to change Celestial Onion Slot to use master slot indirectly made this happen

[valid crypt]

Lmao???

[lean relic]

yeah that support added not long ago lol

[thick coyote]

New DoG sprite haters in shambles

[modern grove]

🙂‍↕️

[dusk bronze]

as they should be

[final pine]

new dog sprite haters when the concept of size is introduced to them:

[warm current]

HUH

I WAS CHECKING MAGNOMALY CANNON AND PEOPLE MENTIONING IT'S GONNA BE UPGRADE TO SAWBALDE

WHAT

[lean relic]

Uh yeah

[azure oak]

ye

[lean relic]

anyone post that big saw

the blue pink one

[vivid hemlock]

[azure oak]

magnomaly cannon will be replaced by miracle saw thing

[cobalt wharf]

magnomaly cannon will be replaced by PiNG!

[azure oak]

and the magnomaly cannon rework will instead become the surge driver rework

[main pivot]

Miracle matter

[naive ice]

Ah yes, more saws

[hard hearth]

omg!!!!!!! yes!!!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-steve-harvey-kill-yes-kill-yes-love-family-feud-gif-25412486

digtoise!!!!!

[hybrid gate]

i love me some good saws

is the cole included?

[dusty tinsel]

Miracle saw looks eldritch

[rich ginkgo]

“it’s widerally gonna lag the game!!!”

(it’s actually gonna make the performance on the dog fight way better)

[rich ginkgo]

ive seen this statement like 300 times in youtube comment sections

[dusk bronze]

why would you read youtube comments

that has to be a form of self harm

[rich ginkgo]

makes me feel like a billionaire staring down at peasants from a 30 story building owned in my name

the youtube people are delayed

in terms of most things probably but im leaning more towards common sense and that makes it funny to read them sometimes

[uneven gate]

wwhat the hell is magnomaly cannon actually dying

[azure oak]

ye

[uneven gate]

wow

...goodbye, my magnomaly cannon...

[late eagle]

Hello my triple saw launcher

[azure oak]

the reworked magnomaly cannon's functionality will go to the surge driver instead

[tropic ermine]

would it be too mean to show them the completed magnomaly resprite from ages ago

[uneven gate]

I've seen that

that's why i couldnt believe its gone

[tropic ermine]

oh good you're all caught up and can suffer in full

yeahhh I'm attached to the old miracles too

as hodgepodge as the thematic was

[azure oak]

dont think current miracle stuff is a travesty but i do prefer the new stuff

[uneven gate]

alright so if this triple saw launcher is going to replace magnomaly cannon, is this the new design for the miracle matter weapons?

[viral merlin]

Triangle should add sea angels to the sunken sea

[tropic ermine]

agreed

weeell

[azure oak]

ye

[uneven gate]

white looking tree stuff, with blue purple red colors

[azure oak]

well not exactly blue purple and red

those will depend on the class of the weapon

[uneven gate]

It looks pretty

but i liked the rainbow colors

[tropic ermine]

I'm not too big a fan of the blood red on the bow, that feels a lil harsh

the black rainbows tho are peam

[uneven gate]

cuz i like pretty rainbow crystals...

[azure oak]

miracle is just evil elemental weapons

[vivid hemlock]

the red is gonna be on all of them

excreted energy thing

[uneven gate]

alright now im exited to see the new Exo blade

[azure oak]

nothing is stating that the heavenly gale sprite was final

[viral merlin]

Evil Excalibur

[dusk bronze]

none of these sprites are final

[uneven gate]

How many resprites has the exo blade gotten at this point

[dusk bronze]

like 2 i think

[tropic ermine]

I'm mostly just opposed to the very intense bowstring

[uneven gate]

Also how come Exo blade is the only weapon name"Exo thing"

[azure oak]

yeah but the heavenly gale wasnt even a full bow

[tropic ermine]

that's my only objection

[vivid hemlock]

7

[dusk bronze]

nope this one will be #6

[vivid hemlock]

wait yeah its 6

[tropic ermine]

that blade do be exotic

[uneven gate]

with each iteration it becomes stronger

[tropic ermine]

it's so exotic we have to remake it 6 times

[viral merlin]

DoG vs Exo Blade who wins the resprite battle

[tropic ermine]

not complaining but yk

[dusk bronze]

dog

easily

that mf has 11

[tropic ermine]

fabled dog will be true cinema at some point

then it's gonna be 12/11.5

[viral merlin]

Might as well go for 15

[azure oak]

exoblade and supernova will be the only miracle weapons without elemental counterparts

[vivid hemlock]

they will have elemental counterparts

[uneven gate]

The Scissor sword stole the elemental blade form Exo blade

[vivid hemlock]

an elemental bomb is planned and the shiv is for exoblade

[azure oak]

nice

[tropic ermine]

wonder how they're gonna spice up the elemental one

[uneven gate]

No new bomb is topping supernova thats for true

[azure oak]

shoutout to the person who did the supernova sound effects

[vivid hemlock]

moonburn i think

[azure oak]

shoutout to moonburn vanillin thinks

[tropic ermine]

I think I saw somebody's vfx credit/submission at some point

lessee

[azure oak]

miracle matter will now truly turn your weapons into freaks of nature

[buoyant pulsar]

what was old cal's obsession with cloning bosses

[dull heart]

Fabsol learned a lot of his coding knowledge from reading decompiled vanilla code

that might be part of it

[cobalt wharf]

it was just easier back then

you don’t spawn 34 bosses out of nowhere

[high scaffold]

whats the reason behin mirale matter resprite?

[vivid hemlock]

the artists are unsatisfied with the current design

[high scaffold]

it looks like an amalgam it is

an it gets turne into a re rystal of some sorts if I remember?

sry for all the typos, part of my keyboar is not working

[kind tinsel]

the current design is a nothingburger

the principles of it i mean

[rose radish]

I think the color palette is also difficult to work with
at least I heard this from someone before

[high scaffold]

fair, it has metalli gray, woo light brown, an a rainbow spetrum

tbh, the wooen part of it is a bit weir to me

[rich ginkgo]

im pretty sure the white wood design comes from an enchanted forest theme

white red and gold goes amazing together

it’s supposed to be mystical i think

[high scaffold]

but both ont seem that mirale to me

[dark scroll]

@vivid hemlock

[vivid hemlock]

Hello?

[dark scroll]

Sorry sorry I was scrolling up on my phone and I must've tapped you

I lurk in this channel alot

[vivid hemlock]

😔

[arctic cliff]

I mean, for one, its a massive downgrade imo

[arctic cliff]

anyhow i realized the issue is that the wood looks too wooden

[rich ginkgo]

comparing those two and calling the newer one a downgrade is genuine ragebait

wtf

[arctic cliff]

imo it should look also metallic, i.e. change its color

[thick coyote]

i dont think thats what miracle matter is supposed to be

[dull heart]

the wood looks too wood 🤯

[arctic cliff]

I personally think the former was better executed. The latter does have its nice points, I DO LIKE the translucent glowy thing

[thick coyote]

miracle matters looks like wood becuase it is wood

[rich ginkgo]

it’s called miracle matter because it’s just a bunch of random shit put together that the terrarian somehow managed to do, and we decided to name it miracle matter which draedon thought was stupid (it is stupid)

i dont really know how you’d make something look “miracle”

so i have no clue what you mean by that

[dull heart]

It's a miracle it even exists

[arctic cliff]

Im genuinely serious, i think that is an actual issue

[thick coyote]

how so?

[vivid hemlock]

its a reflection of the elemental wood-looking thing, which also doesnt look like metal

[rich ginkgo]

what’s the problem with the wood part

lol

[arctic cliff]

i think its coloration

[rich ginkgo]

i think at most the recipe could be changed a bit for context, not sure how all that would translate to white wood

[dull heart]

the main issue is miracle weapons have no actual theming

[arctic cliff]

if it were, say, whiter and slightly more metallic, it'd contrast better

[thick coyote]

but why should it be metalic

[arctic cliff]

I think I preferred the metallic look.

[rich ginkgo]

can we resprite auric

actually no can we resprite like everything

in that image

[agile latch]

Use the exo mechs weapons then or the 56 other rainbow and crystal weapons

[thick coyote]

You prefering the metalic look is fine but that doesnt mean itd fit the concept better though so like i guess im confused

[rich ginkgo]

galactica singularities are bloat

[dull heart]

they're peak

[thick coyote]

i actually disagree with that

[dull heart]

peak ????

[lyric trellis]

Miracle matter: it’s a miracle because you threw a bunch of shit together and it actually made something

[thick coyote]

that stop crafting recipes from looking like complete nonsense

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[thick coyote]

so i do like galactica singularities for that

[rich ginkgo]

a lot already do what’s the point

it’s just lame item bloat man

[naive ice]

We’re canonically shit at naming things

[rich ginkgo]

cores all over again

[agile latch]

Well

[thick coyote]

I disagree that they do, I guess

[agile latch]

They dont do that anymore

[thick coyote]

wdym?

[agile latch]

They are mostly useless crafting material

That do either donor stuff, or stuff that already uses luminite (so they are needless)

Elemental set dont use singularities anymore ™

[thick coyote]

I just mean i lke the function it serves of condensing four seperate materials into one so that crafting recipes are more readable

[agile latch]

So they craft like 10 stuff

[thick coyote]

oh really

[rich ginkgo]

im ngl it feels like every endgame recipe uses the same garbage lmao (ahem galactica singularities and ascendant spirit essence)

[agile latch]

I think singularities in the way they are rn, either they die or they get elemental back because they are really useless

[dusk bronze]

please please kill them

[hasty tangle]

theyre kinda nice for condensing recipes that require lunar fragments, but they are effectively useless, yeah

[cobalt wharf]

it felt like it was a material meant to be used for like lunar hook and doomsday sigil

except it was made before mods did that

[arctic cliff]

No, Draedon is dum for not calling THAT miracle matter

[plush carbon]

Miracle Matter's kinda the best name for it

Draedon gets weirdly uppity about it tbh

[cunning sequoia]

probably because his naming scheme is completely different

(also probably spite from the frankly awful names for the hallowed mechs)

[fathom girder]

skeletron prime is a shit name for a shit boss

he shoulda made the boss cooler

[thick coyote]

He didnt name those though

Those are our names given to them

[pulsar cobalt]

yea thats exactly what they said

shoulda made a not shit boss if they didnt want to get a not shit nickname

[cobalt wharf]

why doesn’t draedon make every mech shoot perfectly tracking deathrays is he stupid

[hasty tangle]

he tried that with prime's skulls

but the issue is then the terrarian gets stuck in hardmode and never makes it to postml

[dull heart]

yes he is

[hasty tangle]

so he never gets to test his creations

[cobalt wharf]

what did draedon mean when he inserted human skulls in skeletron prime

[valid crypt]

Thats what xeroc is for

[dull heart]

if he was smart ares would use Thanatos as a sword

[cobalt wharf]

did he think it was tuff

[hasty tangle]

he really likes the bad to the bone opening riff

[dull heart]

Like the byleth sword but thanatos

Sword of the Creation

[valid crypt]

Mechdusa exo if it was good

[pearl sentinel]

clearly he should have finished making alpha and omega

[viral merlin]

Wouldn't that be a whip instead

[pulsar cobalt]

it can be both

[viral merlin]

floppy sword

[mossy berry]

crying at this idea

[naive ice]

What would Artemis and Apollo do then

[fathom girder]

using thanatos like an omega solar eruption woul dbe peak

[dull heart]

eye

[fathom girder]

they could be shields

[naive ice]

Or secondary weapons

If Thanatos gets stuck in something Ares just pulls out Artemis and Apollo and just uses them like glocks

[fathom girder]

glorified boomerangs

[naive ice]

Just make the Exo Mech Simon Belmont

[hoary edge]

yeet the twins

[naive ice]

Ares as the body, and providing the Holy Water with his Gauss Nuke, Apollo being turned into a flaming Cross boomerang, Artemis as the Dagger, Thanatos as the whip, and Draedon making something for the Axe and Stopwatch

There should be a set of 6 Weapons that are just blatant Castlevania references

We’ve already got Holy Water with Consecrated Water

[main pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1387618924354469888/petpet.gif

[viral merlin]

Can we get the sea angel as another sunken sea critter

or an enemy

[pulsar cobalt]

clearly mihaii is teasing us that pbg will be getting changes next update

[viral merlin]

pbg turns fat

[gloomy grove]

fat bringer goliath

[main pivot]

I almost leaked something "important (For me)" when trying to upload this gif, since I am one to open saved GIFs and press the first thing I see

gulp

[tropic jolt]

☠️

[pulsar cobalt]

we were so close to getting mihaii leak...

[dull heart]

I could leak something

[pulsar cobalt]

devourer of johns would never... would he...

[dense sundial]

particle jumpscare

[main pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/peep-show-jez-door-stop-gif-12760413

[dull heart]

@rare tinsel hi

[pseudo pine]

thats the guilded probiscus

wait

[pulsar cobalt]

i literally cant tell what is going on

[pseudo pine]

if i say that

that summons Deranged to my area

guilded probiscus

[dull heart]

good luck

[dull heart]

typo L

[pseudo pine]

i know

that was intentional

[rare tinsel]

hi

what’s yp?

[dull heart]

a

[rare tinsel]

MY BOY HAS PARTICLES

[pseudo pine]

i mispelled guilded probiscus >:)

[dull heart]

gill dead probe is cuz

[rare tinsel]

please buff him a little tiny bit. just for funsies. nobody will notice. just add five or six to the base damage

[dull heart]

the base damage is like

[pseudo pine]

are you sure that is tiny?

[rare tinsel]

that’s okay, it’s hard to spell

[dull heart]

4000

[pseudo pine]

guielded probiuscus

[rare tinsel]

That’s fine, increase it a teeny tiny bit

[fathom girder]

Just add like 2 more

Pls

Like a tiny tiny bit more

[dull heart]

3999

[rare tinsel]

Because like… I think he deserves it y’know?

NO

[viral merlin]

I need sea angels in sunken sea....

[pseudo pine]

NO

[rare tinsel]

WRONG DIRECTION NO NO NO NO

[pseudo pine]

what

[dull heart]

I had to nerf gilded proboscis by like

1200 dmg

[pseudo pine]

YAY

[dull heart]

bc it may have one shot Guardian Healer

[fathom girder]

Oh my god lmao

[pseudo pine]

what the hell

[rare tinsel]

YAAAAY

[dull heart]

and defendee

[rare tinsel]

I’m so hyped

[pseudo pine]

no

[dull heart]

And two shot commander

[pseudo pine]

no lizhard

[rare tinsel]

one-shotting defender is so fucking funny

40% DR

[pseudo pine]

no overpowered spear

[dull heart]

and could skip the final DE and desp phase for CV

[fathom girder]

"Defend this shit"

[dull heart]

It might have been two shot

[pseudo pine]

what the hell

[rare tinsel]

adding 4 base damage is literally a 0.1% improvement

[pseudo pine]

i am flabberghasted

[rare tinsel]

I’m so hyped

[fathom girder]

Idk if 1200 less damage is enough if it's doing that lmao

[dull heart]

Well

[pseudo pine]

i imagine that thing takes 3 business days to thrust

[dull heart]

I also nerfed the scaling factor

[rare tinsel]

Presumably that meaty of an attack would have been really difficult to hit

[fathom girder]

Oh alright

[dull heart]

no actually that was the easier of the two to use

[rare tinsel]

[dull heart]

It was also the weaker of the two

[rare tinsel]

Amazing

[dull heart]

but the other one wasn't burst dmg

[pseudo pine]

oh no

[fathom girder]

Bro cooked a nuclear bomb in the kitchen

[dull heart]

Oh also

[rare tinsel]

The master chef at work

[dull heart]

Skipping the final CV phases and one shotting the guardians

Was in testing gear

No rippers

[rare tinsel]

LOL

[pseudo pine]

lizhard
dont get too excited please
it will absolutely get nerfed to a reasonable level

[rare tinsel]

I really do not care

[pseudo pine]

what if you had both at the same time

[dull heart]

I already nerfed it considerably

[rare tinsel]

If it gets nerfed, that’s okay

[pseudo pine]

great

[rare tinsel]

I’m just happy it’s getting worked on

[dull heart]

it's still very good but it's also a difficult weapon to use

[rare tinsel]

PERFECT

[dull heart]

Well, if you want full power it's difficult

If you're ok with less power it's easier

[rare tinsel]

“This thing is great in theory but requires a PhD to use” is my favorite weapon archetype

[dull heart]

it's also just super cool

[dull heart]

It's not THAT hard to use

but it isn't just hold left click

[pseudo pine]

agreed

[dull heart]

Or hold right click

[pseudo pine]

name a weapon that is like that

[dull heart]

I am pretty happy with how gilded proboscis plays

[pseudo pine]

will it be the SSU?

or a later update

[dull heart]

One of the only weapons ever where both firing modes are relevant and good

[rare tinsel]

Anything that deviates from this is an improvement

[pseudo pine]

amazing job

[dull heart]

and the ideal playstyle uses both firing modes

[pseudo pine]

agreed
weapons with more complicated attacking styles are great

like the upcoming reworks of Nullification Pistol and its upgrade with a name way too hard to say

[dense sundial]

Ontological Despoiler

rather edgy

[rare tinsel]

The best part is that I just finished Argus so I don’t need to be scared of updates

[pseudo pine]

no seriously what on earth is that name

it sounds like a car piece

[rare tinsel]

Ontological means… uhh, in reference to reality

Despoiler means like… uhhh, it breaks stuff. Despoil is a synonym of raid, plunder and maraud.

let me look it up to see if i did that right

[mystic eagle]

Reality Breaker in fancy words

[rare tinsel]

Yeah I got it right

[rare tinsel]

more or less, yeah

[dull heart]

oh and

Gilded Proboscis still lifesteals

[naive ice]

What is that?

[dusk bronze]

dragonfolly spear

[naive ice]

Oh spear

[dull heart]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Gilded_Proboscis

I had to cut the lifesteal down

It uh

[still bluff]

Lifesteal certainly is a mechanic

[dull heart]

Well it nearly hit the hard cap of lifesteal per hit that calamity adds (100)

on the lower dmg hit

[rare tinsel]

Oh yeah I forgot to ask about that

I wanted to

[lyric trellis]

Lifesteal next update

[rare tinsel]

i'm so hyped

it's my birthday

[thick coyote]

Happy birthday!

[rare tinsel]

well it's my birthday in about a month

so i'll pretend that SSO is coming out then specifically for me

[thick coyote]

Did i miss something, is there a reason you think its coming in about a month

[rare tinsel]

No, just hoping

[gloomy grove]

calamity today

[rare tinsel]

[tropic jolt]

1% chance
99% faith

[arctic cliff]

never forget the last thing Fab ever put out on #changelogs

652 - Ceaseless Void now stays still during Dark Energy phase unless the player runs too far away, and moved the current timed movement in Dark Energy phase to FTW.

[proper pine]

why shouldnt we forget this?

[arctic cliff]

good boss change

something that fab is allergic to, remember

[cobalt wharf]

well don’t say anything until you play with it

what if there’s absolutely no safeguard against just running out of its range

that would be pretty on brand

oh wait i missed a part nvm

still what’s stopping you from just staying barely out of the range where it starts doing that and making the fight 50x easier

[dull heart]

This actually

Kinda sucked

I fixed it to be good

[dusk bronze]

of course it did

[dull heart]

it just moved until you were in range

instead of moving to your location

And the range was really close

so it just felt like you were walking your CV on a leash

[cobalt wharf]

lmap

[mossy sapphire]

what if ceaseless void sucked you in at all times no matter what

[dull heart]

It genuinely might have made CV worse?

[mossy sapphire]

and if you touch it you die

[dull heart]

but that might be like

[lapis oak]

guh

[dull heart]

me misremembering

[cobalt wharf]

as a cv liker it totally would make it worse

[dull heart]

either way I fixed it to be a good version

[mossy sapphire]

i want to think of ways to ruin bosses

[lapis oak]

you're the fixer

[dull heart]

where it moves like it does now, but only if you get to the edge of dark energy range

[mossy sapphire]

cv will eat any entity in contact with it

[lapis oak]

he fixed

[hasty tangle]

just goes to show that changes need testing to tell if theyre actually good or not

instead of just sounding nice on paper

[mossy sapphire]

if you hit it with a melee weapon its deleted from ur inventory

[dull heart]

real

[mossy sapphire]

bullets have no effect

[cobalt wharf]

it’s very easy to write changelogs that sound good

[mossy sapphire]

they get eaten too

[dull heart]

This was one of two highly requested great on paper changes fab pushed

That made bosses noticably worse imo

[cobalt wharf]

for example

[dull heart]

This was NOT as bad of an offense as DoG though

[cobalt wharf]

6whatever: Destroyer no longer shoots lasers from segments that have released a probe - Done ✅

after like 30% of the fight this made destroyer just stop shooting any projectiles at all

but the people loved reading it!

[mossy sapphire]

.

[hasty tangle]

i mean, that would still be an improvement from current destroyer

[mossy sapphire]

what if the probes just release in waves at 75, 50, 25% hp

[hasty tangle]

at least he's finally being reverted to his good version

[mossy sapphire]

and every third segment releases it

[dusk bronze]

you might be cooking

[mossy sapphire]

then the one in front of the released ones

so its not getting swarmed by 472839 stupid flying orbs at once

ajfkskwnf no I forgot to make the boss worse

[cobalt wharf]

sorry to mention fargo again but next update emode destroyer will just only spawn probes for one telegraphed attack then get rid of them

and u get bonus damage to destroyer if you kill them

[dull heart]

body aggression increases the lost amount of probes

[mossy sapphire]

what.

[cobalt wharf]

what do you mean what

[mossy sapphire]

that sounds dumb

the probes won't exist after that attack?

[cobalt wharf]

he does the attack several times

and has a completely different ai from vanilla

[mossy sapphire]

...

eh ok I don't play eternity anyways

[cobalt wharf]

i don’t get what the bad part is supposed to be

[mossy sapphire]

but does he infinitely regenerate the probes

[dull heart]

I should try my hand at destroyer

ai

[mossy sapphire]

and the probes just aren't in the fight except for that

[cobalt wharf]

they do one attack then they go back inside the destroyer

[mossy sapphire]

ah

[dull heart]

me omw to change every single worm

[mossy sapphire]

but you can kill them

for more damage and less probe attacky

[cobalt wharf]

and if you kill then you do like 1k damage to destroyer or something yeah

[mossy sapphire]

I feel like my tracking disk would do more damage with a single ss

[cobalt wharf]

idr the exact amount

[mossy sapphire]

are the destroyed probes missing later on

or will they reappear

in defiance of logic

[cobalt wharf]

idk

[mossy sapphire]

would be cool if probe npcs spawned in from offscreen

invulnerable

and enters the segments missing them

which then light up

like its calling in replacements

[dense sundial]

at least that makes two of us on the planet, i guess

[lyric trellis]

Hey

[lapis oak]

bye

[dull heart]

Hi

three

[dense sundial]

okay four

[cobalt wharf]

cv fans are an oppressed minority

[dense sundial]

trueing

nice to see some solidarity

[silk terrace]

¿Did miracle amor replace exo armor or something?

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[dull heart]

no

[silk terrace]

¿It even exists? 😭

[buoyant pulsar]

i love omicron

60,304 damage crit 🥰

[brave star]

Death’d

[buoyant pulsar]

now watch as i make the paladins disappear!

[lapis oak]

this is not spoilerous

[brave star]

It is if it’s overpowered

[vivid hemlock]

kiri i need to start sapping life energy from you

[lapis oak]

the fuck did I do??? 😭

[brave star]

Exist apparently

[vivid hemlock]

i need the energy and youre like an unlimited supply

[lapis oak]

I'm not Exo Prism!!!

[boreal pewter]

true and real clip

[brave star]

Kiri abuse

[boreal edge]

Talk to me if you do

And check Taiga

[lyric trellis]

The plans

[brave star]

nice GLOWup Congratsistrash

[vast ferry]

I wonder why development skyrocketed in efficiency when Fabsol quit

[rich ginkgo]

self explanatory

[azure oak]

59 days until time between BH and SSO part 1 is longer than between R&D and draedon update

[naive ice]

Fr?

[lean relic]

crazy

[spark kiln]

did it?

[lean cave]

i feel like there's been more motivation towards it

especially since bosses can be touched

[summer shore]

development stopped because of deltarune

[lapis oak]

and Deltarune incident has gone away

[lean cave]

ok true

[lapis oak]

Optrix I always think you actually look like your pfp

[lean cave]

could be true

could also not be true

ya never know

[summer shore]

Floppatrix

[lean cave]

[brave star]

Optrix is a car confirmed

[lean cave]

schrodingers floppa

[azure oak]

devs please murder skeletron

[rich ginkgo]

jarvis, neutralize skeletron please.

[azure oak]

churn prime and golem while you're at it please

[brazen ermine]

do yall think nameless is hard

[azure oak]

wrong channel

[brazen ermine]

ah yes

[azure oak]

non-fabsolian revengeance & death ais for vanilla bosses, what a thought

[mystic eagle]

Which bosses are not receiving AI overhauls anyway

[pseudo pine]

very few

[mystic eagle]

I think it's just Guards, Provi and SCal

[plush carbon]

Even Exos are most likely changing completely

It’s really funny to me how religiously Fabsol defended that boss in particular

[mystic eagle]

Exos are good for Fabsol standards

[azure oak]

the idea behind it is neat, fight is more than underbaked

[plush carbon]

He did it with every boss but he got particularly pissy whenever someone didn’t like Exos

[rich ginkgo]

exos are a joke

[azure oak]

the fight came out of the over raw

[rich ginkgo]

design wise and narrative wise they're amazing

the fight is just

😭

[mystic eagle]

The fight is the mother of all mehs

[cunning sequoia]

exos have been getting lobotomized basically every update since they released

[plush carbon]

The cluster of all fucks more like

[azure oak]

spritework this good for a pretty mediocre fight

[rich ginkgo]

the mass of mediocre

[pseudo pine]

i dont think exos are gonna get resprited in any way

their sprites are already incredibly

[rich ginkgo]

they wont

[plush carbon]

Not resprited ni

[rich ginkgo]

lol

[plush carbon]

No

[mystic eagle]

They definitely aren't going to be resprited

That's just out of the question

[plush carbon]

That was never on the table

[azure oak]

sprites look good anyways

[mystic eagle]

The only thing that might need to be changed for Exos' sprites is the lasers between Ares and its Cannons

I don't think the cannons are going to remain immobile as they are now

[azure oak]

ares' arms are already jointed and can move

but they remain static almost the entire fight

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

the swords in dlc are hilarious lmao

[azure oak]

remove artemis' deathray and give apollo a giant flamethrower instead

[proud plover]

What features/additions of vanilla 1.4.5 do you guys think will have the most impact on a calamity playthrough?

[cinder hearth]

Extra whips

[valid crypt]

Calamity summoner getting another buff

[azure oak]

flowers of mortality still need to get a miracle version

[valid crypt]

True

The flower summons starting from hardmode are pretty cool to me

[rich ginkgo]

sso is gonna shit all over summoner in advance for 1.4.5 trust

[azure oak]

what if AotE got rethemed since it's probably gonna be the only elemental weapon without a miracle upgrade

[cinder hearth]

They said they're gonna wait for 1.4.5 before rebalancing summoner

That means, they gotta wait for 1.4.5, and wait for TmodLoader to update to 1.4.5

[still bluff]

One day snapthorn can be nerfed....

[iron dew]

optrix

[summer shore]

Hell nah...

[fathom girder]

And summoner rebalance is in SSO...

So we gotta wait till 1.4.5 for SSO clearly

[pulsar cobalt]

its not

its being postponed

[fathom girder]

[lapis oak]

Not happening

[azure oak]

ping >:[

[lapis oak]

Melee gets its favorite special treat because it's the favorite child

[summer shore]

melee gets the special treatment because tf are you gonna retheme it to

Fuckin luminite?

Profaned?

It's literally THE elemental weapon

[lapis oak]

Of course make AotC in MM pallete and throw away Iban's design

[summer shore]

🥀

[stuck kite]

you all missed the third option

abolish the connection

💥

[hard hearth]

[spark kiln]

does it really matter that much

like genuinely

[hard hearth]

it doesnt

[spark kiln]

does this severely impact the player experience

[hard hearth]

no

[spark kiln]

enough to get rid of an amazing sword design

[oblique escarp]

I hate how the wiki doesn't show sprite animations, they look so good

[lapis oak]

Limited human resource

[oblique escarp]

I have no idea what calamitas' sprite looks like when shooting fireballs

[lapis oak]

To keeps the wiki up to date

[spark kiln]

i doubt 99% of players are going 'hmm.. it seems as though this elemental weapon is the only one with a Miracle Matter upgrade... this inconsistency simply wont do'

[oblique escarp]

planetary annihilation is so lame lol

[azure oak]

was just a lil hypothetical but ok

[summer shore]

you're lame

[hard hearth]

nuh uh

[oblique escarp]

ain't no way you think current planetary annihilation is good

[lean relic]

time to do auric golf with my body

[lapis oak]

Did Planetary Annihilation get renamed in SSO? 🤔

[azure oak]

just get me to do it

[summer shore]

I don't but you're still lame

[oblique escarp]

ouch

:c

[lapis oak]

Ok time to update 60+ weapon gifs that are outdated for the wiki

[azure oak]

wdym weapon gifs, like the lil showcases?

[lapis oak]

Ye

The list is in #wiki-discussion

Good luck

[azure oak]

summer has started

[oblique escarp]

maybe lacerator rework will b e viable for DoG

[azure oak]

i have a lot of free time on my hands

[oblique escarp]

I read that as summoner I'm so Terraria pilled

[azure oak]

and it's too warm to do shit outside

[oblique escarp]

Summer weather sucks

good thing it's winter

[steep path]

whenever I'm driving and I see a nissan rogue I'm like "holy shit calamity mod"

[azure oak]

btw it was about the actual animations, like, the stuff on the sprite sheets
that's not on the wiki and i'd totally be willing to do it

i've already done all of this in my free time

[oblique escarp]

oooo

[oblique escarp]

could you share the file with me please?

I'm kinda curious

[azure oak]

i would but even zipped it's too big to send in one package

[oblique escarp]

I'd be fine with it being sent in multiple parts

[warm current]

MY FUCKING HOPE FOR EXO LAUNCHER REWORK

[summer shore]

Well it's technically still an exo launcher

Just not a mm launcher

[oblique escarp]

chainsaw gun is cooler anyway

[summer shore]

chainson gun

[oblique escarp]

chaingun sun

[warm current]

I like it too but here's a thing, i'm fucking bored using chicken cannon only

what other launcher i wanna use for post-yharon huh

[oblique escarp]

then, don't use a launcher?

[summer shore]

Catalyst wikl add 13 launchers

[warm current]

that's your answer to a guy who like launcher weapon?

[summer shore]

will

[oblique escarp]

oh wait really

[summer shore]

yes

[oblique escarp]

I have no idea what catalyst is adding

[warm current]

same

[summer shore]

Trust me I'm heart plus up's third cousin

[lapis oak]

Chicken Dustspam

[warm current]

it's the only launcher besides magnomaly

and magnomaly right now is just snowman cannon with launcher and AOE aura

[lapis oak]

All post ML launchers are literally ancient artifacts

[summer shore]

pretty sure scal will have a launcher too

[lapis oak]

Only launchers that have been modernized are HM ones

[warm current]

and if it's really REALLY true that magnomaly will become A FUCKING CHAINSAW GUN

[summer shore]

Exhumed blissful bombardier

[warm current]

I'm gonna fucking tweak

[lapis oak]

Tweak

[summer shore]

tweak

[oblique escarp]

that's the weapon that'll be exhumed?

[warm current]

man

[summer shore]

yes

[oblique escarp]

all the exhumed weapons are so cool

[warm current]

i was like "i'm fine with at least magnomaly actually become exo artillery cannon, having more launcher weapon post-yharon feels too hopeful"

but now idk how to feel