calamity-update-talk

[lyric trellis]

It’s a single sunken sea tile

[lean cave]

hrmmm I GUES

it was pretty poggers...

[steep path]

whoa developers are gradient now

[silk terrace]

i send this motherfucker one meme video and he's like "i have the insider info"

[lean cave]

[summer shore]

Floptrix got a taste of being a patreon donator and immediately went to vagueposting

[flat folio]

And if you summon the wall of flesh...

[lapis oak]

this is betrayal

[flat folio]

Vagueposting when certaintyposting enters the room

[oblique escarp]

that's how he was born

[summer shore]

You're begayal

[lean cave]

bagelposting

[rose laurel]

TRUE

[rich ginkgo]

holy fraud

💔

[rose laurel]

And it's funny to me because I think Wall isn't even the worst Vanilla Boss

It's like

#3 probably

[lyric trellis]

Hell gen is the worst vanilla boss

[rose laurel]

True......

[summer shore]

Most unique? Sure

[rich ginkgo]

king slime is the best boss in vanilla

[rose laurel]

I think Destroyer and Queen Slime are worse than Wall, but also

Wall is the hardest Boss to make good in the game

[oblique escarp]

I hate when wall of flesh is difficult, the prep it takes without QoL mods is terrible

[main pivot]

[summer shore]

Game dev difficulty mode is making wall of flesh good

[lapis oak]

hello Mihai

[polar fog]

i actually heavily disagree, i think wall is a really neat boss, but i can understand where the opinion comes from

[steep path]

where do you put ml

[oblique escarp]

damn deerclops not even in the top 3 worst vanilla bosses?

[polar fog]

its also reasonable to have that opinion

[polar fog]

she forgot deerclops

[rose laurel]

Probably #5?

Also yes

I forgot Deerclops

[steep path]

Fair

[rose laurel]

Deerclops doesn't exist to me

[polar fog]

dont worry, we all do

[lean cave]

only possible one time

emode wof 🙏

[rich ginkgo]

genuinely who the fuck fights deerclops

[flat folio]

Toss up this rubble with considerable delay:

[steep path]

the only vanilla bosses that stick out to me as actively Good are duke and empress

[rose laurel]

Lemme make a Vanilla Boss ranking

[naive ice]

Fuck deerclops.

[oblique escarp]

I really like infernum deerclops and queen slime but they're so redundant that I forget to fight them anyway

[polar fog]

i really like wof and twins. empress is up there but jesus christ she kicks my ass

[flat folio]

Empress is shaderspam

[rich ginkgo]

empress has like the easiest attack pattern

to memorize

lol

[dense sundial]

plop

[rose laurel]

Shaderslop

🔥

[polar fog]

i do really like the implementation of the wof being timed vs other timed bosses

[polar fog]

the conditional for night time can be annoying early on vs just being moving around dependent

[dense sundial]

i think the only vanilla bosses i can really say i like are eol and duke
possibly golem, but that could have been TRAE movement talking

[polar fog]

fellow trae enthusiast

[oblique escarp]

duke fishron is best vanilla boss imo

[dense sundial]

hi!!

[flat folio]

Twins are neat

[polar fog]

twins are my favorite mech boss becuase they feel so aggressive

they're very in your face at all times unlike sprime or destroyer

[oblique escarp]

plantera is overrated as fuck

[silk terrace]

maybe a hot take but i really don't like vanilla prime

[polar fog]

sprime is technically in your face but he just kinda sits there and looks funny

vanilla prime is boring

[dense sundial]

i have a personal vendetta against vanilla twins movement, and against vanilla retinazer having RANDOM AIM

[lean cave]

i think normal skeletron is pretty cool

[polar fog]

i really like traes version of prime

[lean cave]

but its been a while since i fought it

[oblique escarp]

like half of the fight is just circling the boss, fun

[dense sundial]

trae destroyer goated

[polar fog]

i dont think trae destroyer lasted more than 3 seconds but i could be totally wrong

i dont remember trae destroyer

[silk terrace]

normal skeletron is pretty good - expert fixed a big issue with the fight by actually giving him a new attack when all arms were destroyed but they didn't do the same to prime??

[lyric trellis]

Can’t imagine this being a hot take because idk who’d even be a fan of it

[polar fog]

i do remember trae twins kicking me and my girlfriends fucking ass, and sprimes gimmick being my favorite sprime fight ever

[silk terrace]

so even in expert prime just floats above you after all the arms are gone

[polar fog]

but destroyer was just kinda there

[lyric trellis]

Wow what an interesting boss

It sure sits there

[polar fog]

i dislike the massive jump in difficulty between classic and expert skeletron sepcifically

[lean cave]

💔

[polar fog]

he gains like 8 different fucking things in expert

[flat folio]

Gotta make some minor reversions to Infernum Destroyer...

[oblique escarp]

fr, love infernum but infernum destroyer is quite bad

[lyric trellis]

At least expert finally got the speed buff

[polar fog]

for some bosses its like oh he attacks faster or he teleports

[silk terrace]

i really gotta check out trae project sometime, i've heard nothing but good things about it

[polar fog]

its definitely a bit strong. summoner is REALLY busted in it

but regardless of that

its very very fun

[oblique escarp]

idk why infernum prime had it's desperation phase removed, without it the fight feels way to easy especially compared to twins

[polar fog]

one of my favorite accessories is the ice skates in that mod

[rich ginkgo]

what is trae

[polar fog]

gives you the ability to skate around for more movement speed

[polar fog]

terraria reworked and expanded

changes up some stuff

[flat folio]

It's the Boss Lobotomy Phenomenon pointed out a few days ago in here

[rich ginkgo]

oh

[late eagle]

[oblique escarp]

what that

[flat folio]

Make Boss > Boss sucks > Nerf everything that makes the fight difficult so people stop complaining > End up with a lobotomized version of the Boss where 2 attacks are threatening

[lyric trellis]

Prime desp was funny

[naive ice]

Yeah basically

[steep path]

astrum aureus core

(first that comes to mind for me lol)

[oblique escarp]

base calamity or infernum?

[still bluff]

this is why you can rungod 3 exos phase

[steep path]

base! I haven't done infernum lol

[rose laurel]

1 - Twins
2 - Duke Fishron
3 - Empress of Light
4 - Eye of Cthulhu
5 - Queen Bee
6 - Skeletron
7 - Plantera

This is the point where I feel nothing about these Bosses

8 - Lunatic Cultist
9 - Eater of Worlds
10 - King Slime
11 - Skeletron Prime
12 - Golem
13 - Brain of Cthulhu

And these are the ones I actually dislike

14 - Moon Lord
15 - Wall of Flesh
16 - Deerclops
17 - Destroyer
18 - Queen Slime

[lyric trellis]

Damn only 3?

[polar fog]

twins on top is based

[rose laurel]

Making the middle of the list was hard because it's literally just

[oblique escarp]

idk much about infernum's development since I started playing right after argus was added

[still bluff]

you at least have to look at the screen for the other phases

[flat folio]

Shoutout to Artemis and Apollo being moved down during that phase in order to remove diagonal fall cheese (introduced rungod cheese)

[rose laurel]

"Would I rather fight Mid Boss #1 or Mid Boss #2?"

[silk terrace]

that list is a little harsh

[oblique escarp]

Plantera being so high up is criminal

[still bluff]

ofc it didn't help at all with diagonal fall cheesing every non berserk phase

[steep path]

it's crazy how 1.4 introduced what may be both the best and worst of terraria boss quality

[rose laurel]

By "nothing positive" I mean at best "I feel nothing about this Boss"

Like

Cultist sure does exist

[still bluff]

we need more bosses like destroyer

[rich ginkgo]

cultist feels like filler

lmao

[still bluff]

metal laser worm propaganda

[rose laurel]

Moon Lord and below are what I consider actually bad

[silk terrace]

a&a now swaps between diagonal and horizontal every attack to remove all chese clearly

[lyric trellis]

There was a funny period between those two where you couldn’t even cheese it and everyone just melted it because it sucks

[polar fog]

i was gonna say like actually this doesnt sound bad but

[still bluff]

what if we actually designed the 3 bosses to work together in a functional way instead of cutting off directions one by one till its either inescapble or completely cheesable

[polar fog]

like it doesnt sound bad, but itd be very overwhelming with everything else on screen

[oblique escarp]

did make an infernum tier list earlier, might as well post it here

[flat folio]

Just make the mayhem phase designate special combo attacks to each of the mechs so that there's something coherent (even if chaotic) going on PLEASE.....

My life will belong to John Calamity if this happens

[still bluff]

continue inf DoG glazing he's peak idc what anyone says 🔥

[rose laurel]

We'll share it equally between ourselves, don't worry

[hidden ridge]

hopefully base exos will actually get changes now

[oblique escarp]

fr

[silk terrace]

exos are likely getting a full rework

[polar fog]

oh holy peak

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[polar fog]

thank fucking god

[lyric trellis]

No unfortunately it’s impossible, earth would explode

[rose laurel]

Basically the entire team is unsatisfied with it because, regardless of what everyone thinks

[polar fog]

its very fun braving through exos but they're a boring fight without that fact

[rose laurel]

That's NOT a good state for a Boss meant to stand alongside SUPREME CALAMITAS

[oblique escarp]

Projectile spam

[flat folio]

I got my redemption arc with the boomer in Fargo DLC thankfully so it works out

[rose laurel]

If DoG didn't exist

Exos would be the worst major Post ML Boss

By a landslide

[still bluff]

lucille you should complete the full circle by reworking base cal OD

[silk terrace]

no idea what that will look now that lucille stole all the attack ideas twice but we'll figure something out

[still bluff]

LMAO

[oblique escarp]

fr tho, kinda wish it was it's own mod so I never have to think about infernum old duke ever again lol

[rose laurel]

Ok but that'd be FUCKING HILARIOUS

[hidden ridge]

thanatos single handedly makes base exos super laggy

[flat folio]

Commission me to rework one of the bosses sometime.......

[rose laurel]

And also make thematical sense???

[steep path]

would it be fair to say that prof guardians do the team synergy thing better than exos

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

[lyric trellis]

Yes because Exos have literally none

[oblique escarp]

like, infernum is really good, but old duke is one of the worst bosses I've ever fought

[fringe quiver]

Commissiom lucills now
Old dukebtommorow

[oblique escarp]

idk which is worse, old eternity brain or inf old duke

[rich ginkgo]

i dont even remember exos fighting alongside each other lmao

[fringe quiver]

Ok bxk to slee9

[rich ginkgo]

its more turn based if anything

[fringe quiver]

Gnnnn

[rich ginkgo]

no that one ares and exo twins attack i remember

[lyric trellis]

They’re just the solo ais but slightly nerfed and nothing else

[rose laurel]

Don't worry, Sunny

[oblique escarp]

I love when bosses work together, inf twins, exos and eternity exos are peak

[rose laurel]

I am the ultimate ideas girl

[lyric trellis]

Great design

[still bluff]

i do have to say OD was the only inf boss i skipped in my playthrough
still need to try the dlc rework, from what i've heard it's peak

[silk terrace]

no

[silk terrace]

no

[steep path]

it's like. the eyes shoot a few projectiles while ares is going after you and also thanatos is like hanging out somewhere in the general proximity. and thassit

[rose laurel]

WALKABLE PROJECTILES, SUNNY

[silk terrace]

NO

[still bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072667620882522136/1381542511633371146/peak_SMG_copypasta.gif

[rich ginkgo]

thanatos does absolutely NOTHING the whole time until its just you against it

dude like slithers along the ground its weird as fuck

[flat folio]

The problem is that I already have my recent "Wut if I made this boss with my current standards" was already answered and I'd feel terrible for Javyz and co if I were to just pluck a rework from DLC and add it to base Cal, effectively forcing them to come up with something new in order to remain different

[lyric trellis]

Would hope the OD overhaul would give a little more to work with

[rose laurel]

I mean we'll entirely redo Old Duke anwyays so

[rich ginkgo]

it's an overhaul so like

[naive ice]

He is an ass

[still bluff]

putting DLC OD in cal absolutely isn't the move yeah no
no matter how peak it would be

[lyric trellis]

Remains brown fishron

[oblique escarp]

what infernum bosses do you actually not like btw, I'm curious

aside old duke

[lyric trellis]

WoF shame

[rose laurel]

Seriously though I'm very sad that this can't work because it's an absolute banger idea imo

[flat folio]

A lot of them I'm just neutral on, mostly
I so badly wish I could've made a rework for Inanis' polter design

[still bluff]

exos should be an undertale boss fight

[rose laurel]

But I already made peace I won't have walkable projectiles in Calamity because from what everyone told me that'd me obnoxious as shit to make

[lyric trellis]

Which one

[rose laurel]

[flat folio]

Programming-wise?

[still bluff]

mettaton
you have to bring draedon's viewer ratings up

[silk terrace]

my problem wasn't even with the walkable projectiles it was with everything else in the suggestion

[still bluff]

LMAO

[lyric trellis]

Peak

[rose laurel]

Yeah I know 😭

[oblique escarp]

which polter design, is it the upcoming one?

[rose laurel]

For those who are curious, it was an idea I pitched for an Ares Blender rework

[naive ice]

Wat

[vivid hemlock]

no

[still bluff]

blender but you actually get put in a blender

[vivid hemlock]

scrapped one that died with 22 i believe

[flat folio]

You all (except for the Cal devs that have backread to see it) dun even understand the sheer peek that design was

^
Lost to time unfortunately

[rose laurel]

Where Ares would fly away and you'd have to catch up with him while he fired massive fuck you beams at you

[naive ice]

Ooo

[rose laurel]

And you'd be able to walk on the beams to replenish flight time

[silk terrace]

yeah that's the real issue at the heart of it, but you're working on something else and that's fine. we wouldn't mind you as a consultant from time to time if you're up for that

[rose laurel]

But, yeah people already pointed enough holes in that

[oblique escarp]

though I do understand feeling neutral on most infernum bosses, there's like 40 of them, not all can be amazing

[still bluff]

just make DLC part of base cal clearly

[wide nova]

infernum base calamity 😈

[lean cave]

just combine every mod into one super mod

[rose laurel]

I still think it can work with some tweaks but I'm not going to pester people just because I want to live my fantasy in Calamity Mod

[wide nova]

wotg base calamity 😈

[rose laurel]

This entire idea spawned because

[vivid hemlock]

tmodloader supreme

[wide nova]

catalyst base calamity 😈

[flat folio]

I honestly dun think I'd mind a position like that
I think it's still far too early for me to make a definitive call on returning to the team directly in a hands on way, but I wouldn't mind taking on big side tasks like that on an as needed basis from time to time. Keeps the boredom at bay

Only problem with that really is just communication struggles

[oblique escarp]

only if we can give Solyn headpats

[wide nova]

no

only death and deceit

and cool shit

[still bluff]

sorry lucille we're putting everything you've ever made in base calamity it's all one mod now

[silk terrace]

i might have a solution to that if you're up for a dm

[rose laurel]

I was thinking how an Exo Mechs fight would go between them and my OC and I thought it'd be fucking awesome if they could walk on the blender beams to more easily reach Ares

[flat folio]

Sure

[rose laurel]

And like, yeah no holy shit that's just an awesome mental image to have

[summer shore]

By walk you mean like

Slide on it or

[rose laurel]

No

[lyric trellis]

Secret tos that says Cal can use anything cal related it wants

[rose laurel]

Run

[summer shore]

How do you walk on light

[rose laurel]

Straight up run on it like a block

[rose laurel]

My idea was

[summer shore]

❓

[rose laurel]

Water Walking Boots exist

[oblique escarp]

how much do you think Cataclysm could lift?

[rose laurel]

And by the end you should have Seraph Tracers

[summer shore]

Ok well there's the hole

[wide nova]

cataclysm like the famous geometry dash cataclysm

[summer shore]

Next you're gonna tell me I can jump on scal fireblasts

[oblique escarp]

no

[rose laurel]

The most logical step is that Seraph Tracers would allow you to walk on some super goofy shit

[wide nova]

yea like a mario level

[lyric trellis]

Just reflect everything

[rose laurel]

Also

[pearl sentinel]

mgrr metal gear ray fight

[flat folio]

Celeste platforming but it's a boss in Terraria

[rose laurel]

Lucille, make the Draetalk UI less scuffed and my life is yours

This is only half a joke

Like, it's fine right now but if you ever want to improve it yeah feel free

[oblique escarp]

I find it funny how the endgame infernum bosses are all amazing and then Yharon's mid fight is just sandwiched between them

[dull heart]

hi

woah

my name is fancy

i feel weird

[rose laurel]

Your name is fancy indeed

[flat folio]

Yharon's one of the oldest Infernum reworks

So it kinda makes sense tbh

[dull heart]

this color scheme is so menacing

[summer shore]

Take that back

[wide nova]

infernum hive mind is cool

[summer shore]

Yharon my beloved

[flat folio]

You're orange now that's my attack??

Or however it goes

[oblique escarp]

no, he's mid he has like 3 attacks in his 2nd phase

[rose laurel]

Yharon is probably the fight I'm the most excited to rework in Cal because that guy sorely lacks any meaningful personality

And that's like

[lyric trellis]

Most post-ml infernum bosses are really old right, compared to other stuff

[rose laurel]

The thing we should hit the most in Yharon's rework

[flint sapphire]

honestly from what I've seen Yharon in Infernum has just one attack: charging at you

[rose laurel]

Because HE DOESN'T FUCKING TALK

[wide nova]

lets give him perfect human speech

[lean cave]

through the fire and flames

[wide nova]

with a john wick boicr

voice

[oblique escarp]

and a ring of fireballs around you so basically just one attack

[flint sapphire]

exactly

[oblique escarp]

like, infernum devourer is amazing, exos are amazing, infernum Scal is one of my favorite bosses

and then there's mr dasher

[flint sapphire]

it's honestly one of the biggest complaints I have when watching Infernum gameplay, quite a lot of bosses have variations of just charging at you or just stuff that doesn't really fit thematically

[dull heart]

anyway i have come bearing spoiler

[summer shore]

My brother in spoiler infernum dog is the dasher

[rose laurel]

The spoiler

[flat folio]

Expressive Yharon animations would go a long way in helping remedy the theming of the fight
I do think the fluffy sprite has its charm but it's not particularly versatile

[summer shore]

🥀

[oblique escarp]

difference is DoG is a good boss

[vivid hemlock]

[summer shore]

You can't say yharon is bad because he dashes and then turn around and say dog is great because he's a dasher

That's hypocritical as fuck

[vivid hemlock]

infernum dog is not like the others

[oblique escarp]

not like us

[flat folio]

Not like the other girlstm

[rose laurel]

Yharon sorely lacks any significant personality which makes everyone think he's still just a pet when

That couldn't be further from the truth

[flint sapphire]

yeah exactly, Infernum DoG is also not fun (his main gimmick is one shotting you at max health, truly the pinnacle of gameplay )

[oblique escarp]

I'll look at old calamity videos and think, "this is exactly the same as now"

[lyric trellis]

Old duke is better than DoG and Yharon because he comes before them clearly

[rose laurel]

The fabsolian damage.......

[rose laurel]

WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[silk terrace]

i see no god up here

other than me

[lyric trellis]

Mine

[dull heart]

technically that is an NPC

but shh

[silk terrace]

read my message about it again

[vivid hemlock]

rebecca please take your meds

[lapis oak]

Reb you gone insane

[urban cloak]

god's strongest ideaswoman

[lean cave]

can you put on the calval rock
hat

[oblique escarp]

what's the opinion on infernum Scal btw?

[rose laurel]

I'm calling Madeline fuck you

[silk terrace]

and?

[rose laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-middle-finger-meme-funny-gif-27240133

[summer shore]

"i'm calling mom" ahh

[rose laurel]

I am

[rich ginkgo]

have yharon not be summoned via spawn item 🔥

[rose laurel]

I have at least one attack idea for every Boss in the Mod

[dull heart]

anyway have spoiler

[lapis oak]

DS bag!!!

[urban cloak]

you gotta have full reworks in mind for every boss to be considered the strongest reb

[lyric trellis]

The bag

[summer shore]

AYE

[urban cloak]

step your game up

[lapis oak]

finally

[summer shore]

Ds bagg

[rose laurel]

Damn

I'm washed

[pearl sentinel]

pls zeus add yharon flying around the map post ml and my life is yours

[oblique escarp]

infernum deus and wyrm feel like the devs were just running out of ideas because there's so many worms

[summer shore]

Reb can't beat 2021 lucille

[lyric trellis]

Finally a place to put my clay for throwing bricks

[flat folio]

yeah.

[lapis oak]

were you ever peaked?

I'm kidding don't kill me

[vivid hemlock]

🎉

rejoice

[rose laurel]

"Fabsol stop we have enough worms"
"ADD AQUATIC SCOURGE"

[oblique escarp]

based, can see why infernum aquatic scourge has the water gimmick and how sepulcher moves far more sporadically than other worms

[lyric trellis]

We NEED to use this rejected DS sprite

Can’t let it go to waste

[rose laurel]

Adding the "rejected" is nasty

[oblique escarp]

underworld scourge
abyss scourge
astral scourge
evil scourge
purified scourge
draedon scourge

[rose laurel]

😭

[vivid hemlock]

💥

[oblique escarp]

wait I just realized the armored digger is the draedon scourge

[rose laurel]

The real question is

Who should get the black hole attack?

[lyric trellis]

I mean it literally was wasn’t it 😭

[rose laurel]

Because we have three candidates

[vivid hemlock]

draedon has like 5 worm mechs dawg

[still bluff]

believe me you don't want to see fluffy sprites

[lyric trellis]

I’m gonna go with the black hole boss

[flat folio]

Noxus, circa 2027?

[oblique escarp]

I mean the destroyer gets a pass since it's vanilla

[rose laurel]

You got one of them right

[summer shore]

Noxus cv dog

[rose laurel]

To me it's between Deus, DoG or Noxus

[summer shore]

Why deus

[rose laurel]

One of the three is getting the black hole attack

[summer shore]

Dead star?

[rich ginkgo]

not deus

[vivid hemlock]

armored digger tiers 1-3, destroyer, thanatos

[rose laurel]

Narwhal

[oblique escarp]

it's literally from space

[summer shore]

What

[still bluff]

we should add more worm bosses guys

[silk terrace]

finish wormlamity.

[oblique escarp]

hallowed worm 2026

[urban cloak]

i presume she wants deus to impale a star and turn it into a black hole for an attack

[rose laurel]

https://youtu.be/aUquT8D0tII?si=vSDJ6PE7Y1P6aJ0V

[summer shore]

Wheh

[rose laurel]

Narwhal

[still bluff]

nooooo you can't make me

[oblique escarp]

idk if this is a joke or not but that actually sounds cool

[summer shore]

Oh it's genshin

[buoyant orbit]

Based

[summer shore]

🥀

[silk terrace]

spoiler talk can we explode rebecca

[lapis oak]

yes

[rose laurel]

NO

[vivid hemlock]

yes please

[summer shore]

Morally correct

[still bluff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

[lapis oak]

🥀

[vivid hemlock]

@rose laurel 💥

[lapis oak]

Reb u so washed

[rose laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

[urban cloak]

months of seeing this gif and i still dont know who's the character in it im ngl

[vivid hemlock]

rebecca i need you to ideas guy more deus attacks or brazil will fall into the mantle

[rose laurel]

It's funny because I actually have another Boss from Genshin I want to use as inspiration for Cal

[lyric trellis]

Wish this boss had more going for it than looking pretty and concepts

[still bluff]

it's actually rebecca irl

[urban cloak]

i'll believe that

[oblique escarp]

really wouldn't mind if one of the worm bosses got reworked into something else

[still bluff]

nope

[rose laurel]

Bro literally only has hype moments and aura

[still bluff]

we can't remove worm bosses

only add more

[vivid hemlock]

yeah desert scourge

[oblique escarp]

primordial wyrm too imo

[rich ginkgo]

deus does not need

to be a worm

[still bluff]

primordial already isn't a worm boss it has a single damageable segment and hitbox

[lapis oak]

need more worm bosses

[silk terrace]

the boss does so little that it's ultimate attack is making you fight another guy

[vivid hemlock]

please dewormify deus im begging you

[still bluff]

deus is getting more worms

[oblique escarp]

devs! it's time to add another worm boss!

[lapis oak]

10 worms for Deus fight

[lyric trellis]

I was literally about to mention this 😭

[lapis oak]

bringing back peak

[rose laurel]

https://youtu.be/5Wsfv27bf2k?si=zddb-0YTPnx8sm5h&t=422

[rich ginkgo]

dog and thanatos are like the only worm worthy bosses imo because i literally cant think of them being anything else lol

[rose laurel]

I want SCal's first bullet hell to feel exactly how this thing does

Literally just

[lyric trellis]

“Massive black hole, here’s a guy”

[rose laurel]

Jumpscare

[rich ginkgo]

dog could get limbs in some way at MOST

especially looking at phase 2

ugly ass shriveled up being

[still bluff]

DoG needs guns

[rich ginkgo]

raisin dog

[oblique escarp]

storm weaver too imo since it's linked to DoG

[urban cloak]

dog to sepulcher pipeline real

[rich ginkgo]

ohg yeah i forgot about that guy

[lyric trellis]

Immediately knew you were talking about her for scal

[still bluff]

we should make provi a worm

[oblique escarp]

so glad sepulcher was changed

centipedes are so much cooler than worms

[rose laurel]

She fits so surprisingly well character-wise it's scary

[vivid hemlock]

sepulchre isnt a centipede...

[rose laurel]

But fight-wise Arlecchino doesn't work at all tbh

Besides the first Phase 2 attack

[oblique escarp]

it looks like one tho

[rich ginkgo]

a sepulcher means an amalgamation of like, dead things

which is acc pretty cool

[oblique escarp]

ik sepulcher isn't a centipede, I mean it's design

[rich ginkgo]

nope i lied its a rock a dead person is buried in

where did i hear the first part

[summer shore]

The first part is what it is in lore

[lapis oak]

having more than 2 pairs of limbs and long segments is considered centipede 🥀

[summer shore]

The word sepulcher just stands for coffin or some shit

[late eagle]

Hey Reb, in this new fabless era, what will happen with armored digger? Are the old plans still valid?

[rose laurel]

Uuuuuuuh idk

[lyric trellis]

And yet it’s still probably a top 3 weekly boss in terms of the fight itself 🥀

[summer shore]

Which is why she refers to it as crawling tomb

[rich ginkgo]

i know but i remember searching up the word and google told me it was like a bunch of dead things put together

[oblique escarp]

worm clearly better

[rose laurel]

No I mean as reference for SCal

😭

[urban cloak]

dont think armored digger's plans have changed but i also dunno when that's planned for release

[late eagle]

Honestly armored digger should just die imo

[still bluff]

armored digger should be made into a full boss so we have another worm boss

[rich ginkgo]

no thanks!

[summer shore]

Another 3*

[late eagle]

💥

[silk terrace]

sometime in like 2027

[hidden ridge]

armored digger was left dead on the side of a road in 1993

[rich ginkgo]

alongside what update

lol

[silk terrace]

yharim

yharim and armored digger update

[urban cloak]

xeroc update

[rich ginkgo]

or is armored digger just gonna be its own thing
the armored digger update

[oblique escarp]

Yharim worm

[summer shore]

Armored digger will be for draedon update 2

same update that reworks exos

[lapis oak]

Yharim in 2027 leak!!!

[rose laurel]

See I think the funniest thing is that Calamitas in old versions literally was just an edgy Sans

[lapis oak]

it's over

[rose laurel]

And then, when I brought up how I wanted the first Bullet Hell to feel

I said

[lyric trellis]

Oh lol, I could see some attacks beings used for her non-bh attacks which desperately need work, but there’s a ton you could do there

[rose laurel]

"Sans' first attack"

[oblique escarp]

so true, her old dialogue was so cringe

[urban cloak]

realistically speaking though i think armored digger rework is small enough to be put in its own patch and released whenever it's ready

[rose laurel]

We've gone full circle

[urban cloak]

there are some things we dont need to put in a bundle

[rose laurel]

Sans SCal is back

[vivid hemlock]

rebecca you need to break the cycle of trauma

this is the 5000th time youve done this

[rose laurel]

TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE, VANILLIN

[oblique escarp]

just thought about my Calamitas plushieless room and got sad

[lyric trellis]

Is scal bh1 still super troubling for new players, it’s the densest one by far at least so it certainly gives a first impression

[vivid hemlock]

[silk terrace]

remember when she said noice if you got the hitcap

[late eagle]

The nefarious ouroboros

[rose laurel]

Yeah no her normal attacks are by far her biggest problem right now

SCal outside of her special moves is just

Ass

[lyric trellis]

Twins

Eyeball

[rose laurel]

And even then some of her special phases are also ass 😭

[orchid finch]

the baller except it's the faller

[oblique escarp]

or that everything was going well before the player came along, stupid words for calamitas of all people to say

[rose laurel]

Looking at you, Seekers

[dull heart]

her normal attack phase is just

meh

[lyric trellis]

Seekers really don’t do anything

Except be annoying

[oblique escarp]

shoot from side, shoot tiny shots from above, dash, gigablast, that's it

[lapis oak]

Seekers killed my wife

[oblique escarp]

seekers killed my grandma

[lapis oak]

with their point blank shots

[silk terrace]

charge for 1000 damage in master

[urban cloak]

besides seekers it would be nice if sepulcher did something besides look pretty

[dull heart]

seekers kill

[still bluff]

we should readd the hitcap

[dull heart]

give him new dog ai

[rose laurel]

And yeah I'd like to have every Bullet Hell be sorta like Undertale attacks in a way?

[urban cloak]

id actually kill you

[still bluff]

but make it high enough that you have to be tanking really really hard to hit it

[dull heart]

he would do something besides look pretty

[lyric trellis]

Whatever happens with seekers, I hope it’s not like infernum seekers in the sense that the flow of the fight gets completely stopped and it’s just kinda bleh

[rose laurel]

Make them actually structured instead of being completely random

[oblique escarp]

I like it tbh

[dull heart]

please no

[lapis oak]

knowledge check?

[rose laurel]

I didn't say "make them 100% static"

[dull heart]

the random BHs make scal so much more replayable

[lyric trellis]

BHs being random is perfectly fine except bh5

[dull heart]

they already are structured to a degree

[still bluff]

inf Scal definitely does quitea a lot right, it's really a great boss

[rose laurel]

I just want SCal BHs to be MORE than just "random bullshit go"

[still bluff]

i do agree with this about seekers though

[dull heart]

bh5 is so peak

[rose laurel]

BH 5 vibes-wise is great, but actually playing it is uh

???

It's so weird

Idk something always felt wrong about BH 5 to me even if the vibes have always been immaculate

[dull heart]

having to navigate the BH while being chased by maelstrom is great

But the bh5 skulls are kinda odd

they're just randomly there

[lyric trellis]

The BHs after the xyk giga changed make them so much better I can’t say it enough, now you aren’t stuck in the top of the arena and have to build thick walls for it to be bearable

[lapis oak]

skulls don't pose any threats at all

[oblique escarp]

real

[rose laurel]

Ok yeah the Maelstrom is the one reason I'm like

[dull heart]

I never did that even before the changes ngl

[rose laurel]

Yes please let's keep SCal an arena boss

[dull heart]

we need more arena bosses ngl

[vivid hemlock]

can the border be a circle instead of a box

[dull heart]

no this isn't fargo

[summer shore]

Noooo

[lyric trellis]

Terraria circle

[rose laurel]

Terraria circle

[lapis oak]

applies 100 shaders to the box

[oblique escarp]

the border should be cooler than arena blocks

[dull heart]

I agree with that

[summer shore]

Scal should not have the fargo circle because then maelstrom can't trap you in a corner

[dull heart]

Imo calclone should also be an arena boss

[lapis oak]

peak

[summer shore]

This is half the reason why maelstrom is so scary

[vivid hemlock]

the blocks are terrible

like ancient relics

[summer shore]

It can just push you and squish you against the walls

[rose laurel]

Yeah, obviously

[lyric trellis]

2017 blocks

[lapis oak]

also circle would make Godslayer dash not peak 🥀

[rose laurel]

But it should still be square shaped

Because

This is a game based on squares

[lyric trellis]

Hexagon arena

[still bluff]

make it a pentagram

[dull heart]

The ideal arena bosses to have imo would be like
WoF (I guess?)
Clone
Ravager
CV
Scal

[summer shore]

I'm totally not lobbying for square static box because of the arena I spent 120 hours making

[lapis oak]

Polterghast

[vivid hemlock]

collecting your tears

[dull heart]

WoF, Scal already do this

[urban cloak]

would love for cv to be locked to archives

[dull heart]

CV kinda does

[rose laurel]

Unless we gave the player infinite flight (lame) the arena would be all choppy because y'know

[dull heart]

I actually coded that the other day on a branch

[urban cloak]

keep cooking king

[rose laurel]

We can't make a curved solid structure

[dull heart]

and I had a very peak idea

[lyric trellis]

Does Provi border count

[rose laurel]

Without it looking janky as fuck

[dull heart]

where CV disables platforms

but spawns custom moving platforms

[summer shore]

Infernum golem

[lapis oak]

hell ye

[rose laurel]

Provi border isn't an arena

It's just a "stop rungodding dickhead"

[dull heart]

yeah

[summer shore]

Give guardians that too

[dull heart]

can we give calclone the

[lapis oak]

turn Polterghast into an arena boss too (I mean it's kinda already is?)

[urban cloak]

it isn't

[dull heart]

CV makes more sense being an arena boss

CV is inherently very anti movement

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[vivid hemlock]

polterghast stinks too much rn to be an arena boss

[buoyant pulsar]

what is the mage emblem supposed to actually be cause it kinda looks like an ear

[lyric trellis]

Every boss is an arena boss if you fight it in an arena 🤯

[urban cloak]

true!!!!

[lapis oak]

truest

[dull heart]

ravager makes his own arena now

[oblique escarp]

will the calamitas plushie be available again soon?

[vivid hemlock]

truth nuke

[lyric trellis]

Remember when polter had arena scaling projectiles

[rose laurel]

Byeah SCal is a Boss I think should 100% remain as an arena fight because the general structure of it is amazing

[summer shore]

Polter block enrage

[rose laurel]

The Whispering Maelstrom is, dare I say

Probably the best attack in the mod right now

It accomplishes everything it sets out to do perfectly

[dull heart]

if someone tried to remove scal box I would rename them on Thank You to "dumb dumb head"

[still bluff]

[lapis oak]

wow so rude, based

[summer shore]

Yea

[rose laurel]

That thing being "scare the ever living shit out of you"

[oblique escarp]

it shouldn't be possible to get out of Scal's arena

[dull heart]

The feeling of being chased by maelstrom through BH5 at the end of the fight is such a great build up to the climax

[summer shore]

Goes back to my point that maelstrom is a lot less scary with the fargo circle because you can just rungod

[lapis oak]

my eyes truly did pop out of sockets

[rose laurel]

Too bad the climax is kinda doodoo

[lyric trellis]

There’s probably a good amount more than I can think of but I feel like the competition isn’t that tough

[dull heart]

the climax IS bh5 atm

[silk terrace]

your move

[lyric trellis]

Sep2!!!!

[rose laurel]

Yeah that's the problem

😭

[summer shore]

sep 2 is just filler

[dull heart]

That's one of the things I wanted to replicate in the DoG rework

[oblique escarp]

don't have much else to say so back to making calamitas yuri fanfic

[rose laurel]

BH5 and Sep 2 is the climax, everything after that is just

[dull heart]

That intense feeling right at the end

[rose laurel]

Free

[silk terrace]

i'm glad you took my feedback about the end of the fight

[lapis oak]

I usually try to line up BH5 with the choir

[silk terrace]

because it was really good but fell apart at the end

[lapis oak]

it's so fucking peak

[lyric trellis]

Also a side effect of scal’s boring pattern

[dull heart]

yeah I think the ending needed more I agree

[lean relic]

I loved the false end of dog fight in past

[dull heart]

it's pretty peak now

[summer shore]

What happened to dog gain

Again

[dull heart]

Especially the end in death mode goes so hard

[lapis oak]

really?

[silk terrace]

we still gotta fine tune it but the general attacks are all finished

[lapis oak]

omg...

[dull heart]

I have one attack to finish

[lean relic]

That's fast

[dull heart]

for the end of death mode

[lapis oak]

I'm gonna fucking jump out of my chair guh...

[silk terrace]

yeah that's what i meant

[lyric trellis]

EoC horizontal dash is a top 5 attack in the mod

[vivid hemlock]

kiriblight

[rose laurel]

I had this idea where after Sepulcher 2, Calamitas would stop using her normal moveset and instead stitch together individual sections of her previous Bullet Hells

[oblique escarp]

which bosses are getting new attacks in SSO?

[lapis oak]

wat u mean by this? 🥹

[summer shore]

Why even have sep 2

Why not blow it up

[rose laurel]

Being real

I love Sepulcher 2

😭

[dull heart]

You'll find out

[silk terrace]

it's not the resprite

it's not the resprite

it's not the resprite

it's not the resprite

[summer shore]

🥀

[lapis oak]

true?

[lyric trellis]

Hey Sunny I have a question

[lean relic]

I know that lol

[dull heart]

I want Sepulcher 2 to be where you actually fight sep

[still bluff]

horizontal dash genuinely is awesome, takes a really solid boss and makes it actually better for once

[lapis oak]

some might say hottake

[rose laurel]

Like, not what it is right now but the thing it accomplishes

[silk terrace]

it's not the resprite

[rose laurel]

After BH 5 you think

[still bluff]

infernumpilled rework /j

[silk terrace]

fuck wrong reply

[lapis oak]

but Sepulcher jumpscare 2 is nice

[rose laurel]

"Ok final stretch"

And then

[dull heart]

Rare instance of Fabsol not ruining a boss

[rose laurel]

Yeah

Sepulcher Jumpscare

[lyric trellis]

[dull heart]

Which is why Sep 2 should have DoG ai

[silk terrace]

yeah horizontal dash really adds a lot to EoC

[lyric trellis]

It’s really good mhm

[summer shore]

Sepulcher should be scarier and start chomping you in sep 2

[dull heart]

make it into necromancied dog...

[summer shore]

No...

[still bluff]

What the fuck is a metaphor

[silk terrace]

metastasis tooltip or something

[rose laurel]

I'M GOING TO KILL YOU

[dull heart]

:)

it would make metastasis peaker

[lyric trellis]

Thank you Infernum for inventing attacks 🙏

[rose laurel]

I love the fact that Sepulcher 2 is essentially a rock perfectly placed to trip you while you're full sprinting to the finish line

[dull heart]

so true

[rose laurel]

I want to keep that

And then make it not be the actual end of the fight

[oblique escarp]

is death mode gonna become actually difficult instead of just slightly harder revengence

[dull heart]

post Sep 2 Mana Burn phase

Would go hard

[summer shore]

Well then BH5 isn't the climax anymore is it

[lyric trellis]

I wouldn’t mind sep2 staying when sep gets reworked, or have both sep phases be more distinct

[dull heart]

yes

[lapis oak]

make Sepulcher 2 a bit tankier so the choir can be finished on normal build

[summer shore]

If it's climax into something else into another climax

[rose laurel]

I mean yeah Bullet Hell 5 shouldn't be the climax

[summer shore]

The first climax is no longer a climax

[rose laurel]

It should be the start of it

[oblique escarp]

sweet

[acoustic shell]

when the auric patreon role gets access to the update a week early will we know when that is

also will there be a sso trailer

[dull heart]

yes

[silk terrace]

yes

[still bluff]

there will be a trailler yea

[dull heart]

speaking of

[summer shore]

Nobody wants auric patreon 🥀

[dull heart]

Monday I need to work on giving auric tier their money worth

[lyric trellis]

The climax is scal teleporting on top of you and firing a hellblast

[lapis oak]

I see a lot online right now

[summer shore]

Cinema

[silk terrace]

cdmusic also suggested something really fun that we might do before trailers

but that hasn't been talked about fully yet, or like, at all

[rose laurel]

Bullet Hell 5 > Sepulcher 2 > Final stretch

[lapis oak]

f... fun? 😨

[acoustic shell]

why dont u spill the beans

[rose laurel]

That should be the climax to SCal's fight

[silk terrace]

i don't like beans

also i don't want to cleanup the spilled beans

i have enough going on

[still bluff]

i'm going spill your beans

[acoustic shell]

ok

[summer shore]

Ok fair I've just never seen them anywhere

[rose laurel]

Byeah my general opinion of SCal is, as I said

[acoustic shell]

do it

spill the beans snapthorn

[lyric trellis]

Don’t cry over spilt beans

[rose laurel]

Structurally perfect, execution of each piece needs work

[lapis oak]

true? almost like they never talked

[dull heart]

I should rework CV

[summer shore]

Doze go work on desert scung

[dull heart]

No that's not my job

[summer shore]

Boo...

[lyric trellis]

Doze reworking every boss before sso so excited

[dull heart]

woo

[still bluff]

doze go work on calclone

[dull heart]

ok

I will

[lyric trellis]

The horror

[lapis oak]

you should take over Ennway's job and leak stuff for us

[vivid hemlock]

ennway is already doing this with tobias

[acoustic shell]

yoo so I saw on the future content doc that the dragonfolly and hive mind / preferators were officially swapped

[still bluff]

you should do polls for which boss gets reworked

[acoustic shell]

is this confirmed

by the devs

[vivid hemlock]

im killing you

[dull heart]

ok

[still bluff]

no this is not official i'm going to kill someone

[acoustic shell]

Lmao

[still bluff]

(it is almost certainly happening but it is not confirmed)

[rose laurel]

It's basically like being handed the blueprint of the notredame cathedral but making it out of hay

[lyric trellis]

The winner results “sorry but we’re waiting for the resprite and retier”

[still bluff]

truee

[silk terrace]

#calamity-update-talk message
what i'm hearing is you want spoilers like this

[lapis oak]

nooooo not that...

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-draerim-calamity-calamity-mod-hop-on-gif-14507370317284012742

[lapis oak]

😭

[lean relic]

What is that exo storm weaver 😭

[lyric trellis]

Oh you know

[rose laurel]

EXO STORM WEAVER 🔥🔥🔥

[urban cloak]

oh this is peak i GOTTA start doing shit like this

[vivid hemlock]

you will be boiled everytime you post an image from the doc

😊

[lyric trellis]

Draedon if he made good mechs

[still bluff]

we need more spoilers like this
make what's visible as cursed as possible too

[dull heart]

mantis claws being a fast attacking weapon has always made 0 sense to me

[silk terrace]

voidragon spoiler but i lost the footage

[stuck kite]

fish

[silk terrace]

fish

[dull heart]

that's... Not how mantis shrimp work...

[lyric trellis]

Vanilla weapon copy!!

[lean relic]

FISH

[hoary edge]

oh this is dope!

[dull heart]

mantis shrimp are so cool

[lyric trellis]

What if fetid but yellow

[hoary edge]

true

[still bluff]

we should add fetid but purple

[silk terrace]

what if fetid but explodes

[lyric trellis]

Just like Rebecca

[hoary edge]

subsocker but works like hellborn

ok that's stupid

[acoustic shell]

REAL

[dull heart]

name it grape juice smoothie

[rose laurel]

Kills you

[silk terrace]

i'm readding my goat mandible bow and noone can stop me

[dull heart]

I can help you

[hoary edge]

do it

[lyric trellis]

Good luck

Excited for you to readd the pirate invasion bow

[dull heart]

just saying... if I can manage to balance darts I might be able to revive charged dart blaster

[lapis oak]

say it name GP

why hiding it

[lyric trellis]

Because I don’t remember the name

[silk terrace]

raider's glory

[dull heart]

re add exo gladius

[lyric trellis]

I almost called it Conclave Crossfire for a minute

[dull heart]

but it is sold by permafrost

And does 2% of the enemy HP per hit

and is named Coldheart Icicle

[silk terrace]

readd every removed weapon but they only drop from supreme permafrost and it drops a single random one every kill

[dull heart]

I want to make the alicorn coldheart work like old coldheart

It makes me sad every time I use it

or well

[urban cloak]

welcome back superboss scal

[silk terrace]

you get me

[dull heart]

work like old coldheart with new shortsword logic

[stuck kite]

yep

[lyric trellis]

I know they’re removed and it’s obvious why but looking at removed weapons always makes me go “why the hell was this a thing” and then half were forum suggestions by the same guy

[still bluff]

same lmao

[lyric trellis]

God’s strongest ideasguy

[still bluff]

make it real coldheart

[dull heart]

ok I can it would literally take like

5 minutes

I have working coldheart code for current Tmod

[silk terrace]

the strongest ideasguy in history vs. the strongest ideasgirl of today

[urban cloak]

i genuinely wonder if anyone still uses that forum page and makes suggs like that

[urban cloak]

surely its just dead by now

[dull heart]

peak dog nohit

[lyric trellis]

Gonna go do it rn

“I have an idea for Auric hadal urn”

[dull heart]

i have coded at least two weapons that look like forum posts

[tropic jolt]

🧊

[dull heart]

One of which will not be added

[naive ice]

I bet

[urban cloak]

oh my lord its still open

[dull heart]

This one

This looks like a forum post item

[urban cloak]

fuckin go for it man it'd be funny lmao

[silk terrace]

AURIC BASEBALL BAT MY BELOVED

[naive ice]

The fuck

[dull heart]

not as much as the other one

[naive ice]

Oml

[dull heart]

the other one is triangle's arch nemesis pretty sure

[naive ice]

Show

[dull heart]

no

[naive ice]

Yes

[dull heart]

it is too peak to spoil

[lapis oak]

his nemesis?

[naive ice]

Fair enough

[lapis oak]

the fuck

[lyric trellis]

Square

[dull heart]

it's one of those "you'll have to see it in game"

assuming it gets in

[dull heart]

he very strongly dislikes the item

[naive ice]

It better

[lapis oak]

oh

new item

[dull heart]

unfortunately It'll be stuck in sprite hell for who knows how long

[slate folio]

Hey

[lapis oak]

does he hate it because the sprite concept is glorpshit?

and you make him do it

[dull heart]

there's a lot of reasons

also no I don't make him do it

[slate folio]

Don't you guys love how fabsol said they planned on barely changing yharon's ai for the resprite when yharon was literally just

[agile latch]

[rose laurel]

He just doesn't like the item

It's really not that deep

[lapis oak]

oh ok, not like the Mango's skibidi slicer situation

[dull heart]

yeah it's totally fair too

like the reasons are valid

[verbal gorge]

i thought that was casey from enter the gungeon for a hot few seconds and i had to go back and look at what it's sprite looks like in that game

[agile latch]

i already gave all my reasoning

[dull heart]

yeah

i have no issue with the reasoning you have provided

[lapis oak]

Tringle spoil 1 reason

[agile latch]

about baseball bat..

[dull heart]

oh no

[agile latch]

i already talked with xyk.. there might be a evil thing as the melee drop

from cal clone once she is moved

if my ping pong attack ideia gets real

[dull heart]

cal clone baseball bat

[vivid hemlock]

calclone ping pong attack,,,

the forbidden knowledge

[dull heart]

(I just still think it would be a worthwhile addition simply because a lot of people would enjoy it)

could always be reteired if needed

worst case it could go shadowspec...

[lapis oak]

is it dust spam

[dull heart]

No

[lyric trellis]

Silenced me

[dull heart]

technically I have talked about the weapon concept here before

[lyric trellis]

Can't believe there are people who still talk there though

[dull heart]

but goodness no way anyone got it

[lapis oak]

sounds like a shitposting weapon

[oblique escarp]

he WHAT?!

[slate folio]

Well

Now that HE'S gone, that's no longer a thing

[oblique escarp]

Btw I heard calamity was getting master mode pets, are there any spoilers for those?

[verbal gorge]

Pretty sure the good ol’ upcoming content doc has some images

[agile latch]

doze dev weapon

[lapis oak]

will there be Triangle pet?

or head slot vanity

[oblique escarp]

wait the slime god has an eye now?

[brave star]

Devs now have the gradient of them all

[dusty tinsel]

The slime god is the eye orb

The rest of it is a shell

[cinder hearth]

Lookin-ass

[brave star]

Staring boulder

[lean relic]

is that eye from kirby

[brave star]

My beloved

[cinder hearth]

No, it's the black eye orb from dark souls

It's not 02

[hazy pine]

which guy

[hazy pine]

i feel like the ancient crusher could be brought back, albeit reworked. maybe you slam it on the ground and spikes come out, and you can hit the spikes again to fling them towards enemies

[summer shore]

Ancient crusher as in

[hazy pine]

also i know saying this is gonna make me idea guy number two trillion

but its fun to make anyways

[summer shore]

The variant of evil smasher?

[hazy pine]

no this one

also what were thhey thinking here

[summer shore]

Least obscure calamity weapon

😭

I feel like astral enchantment did that way better

The spike from ground gimmick that is

[hazy pine]

oh yeah no defo

but it's a cool enough gimmick i think having more than one thing do it would be cool

[summer shore]

Even then astral attunement kinda doodoo

[summer shore]

I love relighting cryogen 13 gorillion times

[lapis oak]

Biome Blade, True Biome Blade, Galaxia

We have 3

[hazy pine]

why are half of these just crimson or shortsword variants of vanilla weapons

[lapis oak]

Is that not enough

[hazy pine]

i dont think galaxia does it

let me check

[lean relic]

Hey at least I use Kelvin Catalyst until plantera

[hazy pine]

yeah no thats more of just homing projectiles

[summer shore]

The biome blade line got its attunements changed a little I don't remember what survived and what died

Curse of waiting for sso to release

[hazy pine]

holy deviantart

[lean relic]

Sea died iirc

[naive ice]

Pretty much

[lapis oak]

Broken Jungle, Abyss died, some got merged, changelogs didn't state it very clear

Have to wait for SSO

[summer shore]

I remember sea died

[lapis oak]

Ye it's the Abyss one

[summer shore]

something happened to astral but I don't remember what

[lapis oak]

It got merged

Idk it merged with what tho

[summer shore]

Yea smth like that

[stuck kite]

hallow

[lean relic]

well any news on this

[naive ice]

What the shit

[brave star]

Evil intimidating floating monolith

Looks like a horned one eyed ghost

[stark magnet]

bro why your monolith look like it's got an insect ass

looks like a beetle queen from ror2 lmao

[naive ice]

They all do

[stark magnet]

bro got the john mantle type generation

[brave star]

Hello shayy the madfrog

[stuck kite]

news its good

meow

[naive ice]

The student of Blossom Garden

[lapis oak]

Astral merge with Hallow?

[stuck kite]

ya

[lapis oak]

So when we throw the sword do we dash along with it?

[stuck kite]

monoliths sprout on hit

[brave star]

How does the monolith keep going into strange positions

[naive ice]

It was taught by the Blossom Garden

[summer shore]

o

[lapis oak]

Oh ok, does Galaxia have any mechanic changes like predecessors too?

[stuck kite]

that one sprouts a thing

couple more changes some other places