calamity-update-talk

[warm current]

steve vs jared

eldritch being vs ancient beast

[dry whale]

thats why I specified squid steve and not the other steve

that actually fights jean

[lapis oak]

Minecraft Steve

[latent portal]

ooh

[buoyant pulsar]

ok i got the weapon

gonna try it now

[dry whale]

I would say look at the progression and you have your answer but actually

is this moonlord with or without legs

[warm current]

with legs i guess

since ML is incomplete form

[dry whale]

moonlord wins

high-medium diff probably but he wins

[latent portal]

moonlord phantasmal ray

i don't think jean can tank that

[dry whale]

I was talking abt jared byeah

well actually

would it be more powerful than a regular looking bed

[tropic fable]

those who sabias que hablabas español

[latent portal]

[warm current]

jared only got basically endurance and lunatic cultist's attack on steroid i guess

and also being invisible

[dry whale]

yeah but he would probably oneshot weakened moonlord if it knew to hit the eyes

[brave star]

I wonder if calamity will have a dark area miniboss like how Jackenstein did?

[orchid finch]

wtf fancy role...

[brave star]

Ye :3 cosmilite role gone fancy

I wonder how Death role could go

For gradients

[lapis oak]

Death role will die and get shot in the dark alley

[brave star]

💀

[orchid finch]

[naive ice]

What if prince npc

[brave star]

Prince could be Princess’ Little Brother

[naive ice]

He could sell boss trophies or something. Idk.

[brave star]

Does princess spawn when there’s every vanilla town npc

[naive ice]

Yes

[brave star]

How could prince spawn

[naive ice]

Minus Santa

[brave star]

If he can be Princess’ little brother

[naive ice]

Hmmm, maybe you could get an item from princess at high enough happiness

[brave star]

Maybe shimmer that item and then craft it or vice versa

[naive ice]

Or shimmer her resonance thing

[brave star]

Could he sell the parallel of princess stuff in a way?

Not evil

[naive ice]

That would make sense

[brave star]

But kind of more regal

[naive ice]

Hmmm

We could move the prince outfit to being sold by the prince instead of princess

[brave star]

Could the potted plants be royal decorative

[naive ice]

Or maybe they become slime?

I see the prince as a boisterous young lad who could perhaps sell rare drops, as they would be common for royalty

[brave star]

The siblings would be like the best sibling bond ever bc they weren’t spoiled

Or something like that in royalty

[naive ice]

Absolutely. Princess gets double the happiness from being near Prince, and he shares her loving everyone thing.

And when near each other sell more stuff

[brave star]

Is it ok to say they could be like peas in a family pod

(Never said it before)

[buoyant pulsar]

why are reactions not allowed here

/genuine question

[vague cosmos]

Wait, are you for real?

[arctic cliff]

mods, fish react him

[buoyant pulsar]

im a girl :p

[naive ice]

Yes

[vague cosmos]

I hope SSO isn't tomorrow? I just beat moonlord in my calamity infernum playthrough. And I really don't wish to start over again.

[plush carbon]

You have nothing to worry about.

Check back like 3 months from now and it still wouldn’t be out

[lapis oak]

SSO AT LEAST is in late September

you're fine

[vague cosmos]

That's why I was asking if that one person was for real or not

I know Chronicle Update for Phas is tomorrow

[lapis oak]

tomorrow? cool

[vague cosmos]

Yea, June 22

[silk terrace]

Huh wuh the devs gave an estimated release window?

[lapis oak]

speculation

no dates

so basically, jebaited

[silk terrace]

[buoyant pulsar]

there is never a date

only uhh

someone else finish my sentence

[silk terrace]

Singular comment of triangle saying devs expect late september early october and thats it

And I cant even tell if they expect the update to be done or to launch a trailer

[tropic ermine]

dw guys I narrowed it down
SSO will release THE LATEST before the heat death of the universe

no need to thank me

[silk terrace]

Did any new spoilerous spoiler got spoilered from the last week or so?

[dusk bronze]

yuh

[still bluff]

are you sure

[dusk bronze]

new cloud elemental and scoog hatchlings

[tropic ermine]

threw a trash bag into space

[granite smelt]

[silk terrace]

:steamhappy:

[tropic ermine]

wait scoog hatchlings?

[silk terrace]

Btw I just want to confirm biome worldgen has been long completed yeah just enemies left?

[lapis oak]

this fat fuck

[silk terrace]

Cause now I dont really know atm

[lapis oak]

who knows 🫠

the coding might be done but then there comes the testing

[silk terrace]

I got those words from fabsol himself but after he left idk if devs decided to rework some stuff

[tropic ermine]

ough how grubly

[vague cosmos]

Imagine if SSO update ends up being a merge between fables and calamity

And that's what some reworks end up being

[silk terrace]

Idk why people want the 2 teams to merge tbh tell me which is better 1 calamity or 2 calamity

[tropic ermine]

obviously not lol they already split ages ago and are confirmed not merging

they're too divergent atp

[arctic cliff]

what about 3 calamities

[tropic ermine]

remember the creative differences™️
they're still there

[silk terrace]

Well you need a new team to make dont you?

Where will team C come from?

[arctic cliff]

my brain cells

[vague cosmos]

Well, from what I gathered, fables were originally in regular calamity but then the shadow forced them out.

[lapis oak]

500 Calamities, sir

[vague cosmos]

But mainly, I just up dome of the ideas of Fables cones to base, namely crabulon

[silk terrace]

The visions of old devs and new devs are really different idk what to tell you man

[tropic ermine]

is this "shadow" in the room with us right now

[silk terrace]

This clam consist of mostly new devs who may or may not have much experience with fables old devs

[vague cosmos]

No. He was exercised put

[lapis oak]

ye, the vision are indeeds very different

the merging will never happen

[silk terrace]

One team wants a Ravager to be an actual blood god the other wants it to be whatever fables got idk what the reworked Ravager do there tbh

One team wants Perforators to be a Hydra like boss post ML while the other wants it to be a Spider in Hardmode

[tropic ermine]

is ravager actually confirmed coming back? there's a lot of disdain towards it anw

[silk terrace]

What

Was it canned in fables?

I swear they had a design

[tropic ermine]

nah nah

[vague cosmos]

Raveger being moved to post Providence from what I heard

[tropic ermine]

but in general I'd assume fables wouldn't add cal bosses unless they had a really compelling idea that justifies its inclusion

[tropic ermine]

yes we're talking abt fables instead

[tropic ermine]

which is why old duke and calclone are just axed

[silk terrace]

Fables bosses will have their own imagining of the bosses and will can them if they dont fit their vision

[tropic ermine]

yes that's what I'm saying

we are in agreement

[silk terrace]

Some new ones but I'll assume very few

But most of them should come back

[vague cosmos]

Ok. I recently new to calamity, and I only played infernum.

So....I like Calamatas Clone.....

But why is it normally an eye?

[lapis oak]

Ancient sprite

[silk terrace]

8 year old sprite slowly been updated

Was never made into an actual human

[lapis oak]

Majority of stuff in the mod are old ancient beings

[silk terrace]

SCal took 5-6 years to turn from a Retinater clone to actual human sprite

Retinaze- idk how to spell its name

[tropic ermine]

it's Retinazer

[silk terrace]

Oh

[fierce nebula]

old

[vague cosmos]

It caught me off guard see someone fight calamitas clone in normal calamity and it was just this eye with music too good for the boss, and I'm like
...

WTF. I know Infernum changes boss ai and patterns, but I didn't think it just re-do a boss all together.

[lapis oak]

Infernum didn't have to deal with everything that exists in the mod 🫠

[silk terrace]

This was a planned respite back in 2021 in main cal

Take a guess why it never appeared

[graceful ivy]

It's scope was also way smaller than cals

[tropic ermine]

the funny Event

[vague cosmos]

The shadow i mentioned earlier.

[silk terrace]

Damn straight

[silk terrace]

What shadow

[graceful ivy]

Hornet round

[silk terrace]

There was never a shadow

Only a bullet

[vague cosmos]

Fabsol

[silk terrace]

No

The bullet

[graceful ivy]

In infernum cal clones called the shadow of calamitas

[tropic ermine]

there is no fabsol in ba sing se

[graceful ivy]

I think that's what they meant

[silk terrace]

Ok but no in 2022 the dev team lost 22 developers which is 60% of the whole dev team and fabsol had to find new devs to fill in roles

[granite smelt]

[silk terrace]

This is the point when the mod split to main cal and cal fables

[graceful ivy]

Fables is so awesome

I can't wait to see it finished

[silk terrace]

The resprite was done by Iban I believe? And now he's the lead dev in Fables, which canned Calclone entirely

[granite smelt]

yes, it was made by iban

[tropic ermine]

off to the void with you calclone

[vague cosmos]

I think so far, my top 3 bosses in calamity, which is again, based on infernum, are.

3. The Twins

4. Calamitas Clone

5. Empress of Light

[silk terrace]

I need to play the other versions of calamity someday

[vague cosmos]

I just remembered the Twins

[lapis oak]

You need to play mods other than Calamity

[silk terrace]

theres Infernum, Eternity mode and Fables and I only played through fables cause it was like 6 hours long total

[silk terrace]

too busy playing other games entirely tbh

[lapis oak]

Also this is not spoilerous

[silk terrace]

I only played calamity like 4-5 times

guh where are the spoilers

[lapis oak]

Back to poiler 🦐

[silk terrace]

how oilerous

[silk terrace]

whats that purple target above those 3 weapons I forgot they existed

[tropic ermine]

spirit reforged and MoR my goats

[wooden blade]

This is what gerson used against humans in undertale when he was a warrior

[lapis oak]

It says at the bottom

[silk terrace]

oh

im blind

[lapis oak]

Wtf bad cropping 😨

[tropic ermine]

means stealth strikes

[wooden blade]

There's a god living in my head

[tropic ermine]

bro we're gonna starve

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

[vague cosmos]

Don't starve

[wooden blade]

Yeah, together we can't starve

So let's just dont starve together

[arctic cliff]

WAIT

the sea spirit amulet

...it summons something, right?

[lapis oak]

Don't know

Tringle said it's peak

[warm current]

I'm gonna say this:
I like the tracers

it's basically an option where in post-ML you either

• optimise your flight and speed
• have a fusion of both at weaker stats as balance compensation

[lapis oak]

Jordan drips

[lapis oak]

Huh?

[orchid finch]

the Dragon God...

the old motherfucker........

[lapis oak]

Why future boss is in here ❗

[still bluff]

old yharhar

[modern grove]

Yharckenstein

[onyx valve]

Yeah, it might sounds like a bit of a hot take but upon looking on the spoiler document I think Slime God should be post Moon Lord instead of Hive Mind and Perforators

I mean, we have King Slime in pre-Hardmode, Queen Slime in Hardmode and if we move another Slime Boss in Hardmode it doesn't really make too much sense. I think post Moon Lord might fit their progression more than those Evil 2 Bosses

[wicked pewter]

is that grand dad or whatever that sword was called

i thought it was deleted

[lean relic]

bet lore will change if slime god is post moonlord
since queen slime

[modern grove]

It would be fun if slime god was the first post ml boss, like how king slime is first pre hm and queen slime is first hm bosses

[onyx valve]

Yup, it's Grand Dad

[modern grove]

But it is what it is

[onyx valve]

I don't know why it's included but I think they might re-add it to the mod

Probably as an upgrade to the Grand Guardian

[wicked pewter]

honestly truth nuke ? king slime, queen slime being the first setters for a set time is a fun little pattern i never noticed

but still, i think keeping slime god in phm is better than keeping evils in phm ,

the evil compromise

[agile latch]

well

slime god is now possibly

after queen slime

(post plantera tier)

[still bluff]

Slime God should set up post ML

[wicked pewter]

thats what i was inferring

[still bluff]

swap folly and SG instead clearly'

[wicked pewter]

yeah

[still bluff]

then swap calclone and evil2

the perfect solution

[modern grove]

Rename slime god to slime rook

The slime chess theory

[wicked pewter]

slime bishop

[onyx valve]

Yeah, but Slime God and progression swap aside, I have a question about the reworked Giant Clam. Upon looking to it's sprite silhouette, it kind of reminds me that this boss will be rework from a miniboss to an actual boss fight. Or am I wrong and will remain as a miniboss?

[modern grove]

It can be a miniboss and still do some interesting and unique stuff

[agile latch]

will still be a miniboss

[onyx valve]

Ah, well it was just a coincidence.

I think based of the sprite silhouette I am pretty excited to fight it

[wicked pewter]

god the last thing cal needs is more bosses

miniboss sweep

dragonfolly should be a miniboss thats just convienietly as built out like , dreadnatilus in base game 😁

[onyx valve]

Yeah, maybe it will be for the best to not add bosses anymore, besides Yharim

[pulsar cobalt]

yea its tomorrow and if its not read this message again

[valid crypt]

Yeah thats the only boss they are adding

[still bluff]

there'll be a ocuple of worm bosses

but aside from those yea

[modern grove]

Long live wormlamity

[lapis oak]

What if instead of Slime God we got Slime Worm

[ionic folio]

Die

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105958797803012098/1352288971627036754/VideoToGif_GIF.gif

[lapis oak]

😢

[pulsar cobalt]

sorry wormlamity is dead

i eated them all

no more worms

[lapis oak]

U... u ate worms? 😨

[pulsar cobalt]

yes

[modern grove]

Nutrients

[azure oak]

now that my exams are over SSO tomorrow plees

[valid crypt]

No
To the mines

[azure oak]

[pulsar cobalt]

make infographics for cst for the rest of ur life

[azure oak]

😔 guess i'll go make an armor chart

do we know which 2 victide helmets will survive

[summer shore]

They're dying?

[azure oak]

3 of them are becoming vanity apparently

[hard copper]

Getting the reaver treatment iirc

[lapis oak]

Victide turning into exploration set

[lean relic]

the SSO mines

[vague cosmos]

Ahh, so SSO is always tomorrow. Then that means SSO will never arrive

[wicked pewter]

the silksong paradox

[fringe quiver]

sea tommorow

[vague cosmos]

Sea?

[fringe quiver]

sunken tommorow

[modern grove]

me when i go to the vacation

[cinder hearth]

Well, if SSO IS tomorrow, then you don't need to reread the message

[lean relic]

SSO TOMORROW

SSO TOMORROW

[high scaffold]

SSO IS FAKE

[cinder hearth]

One day we'll say SSO tomorrow for the last time

[high scaffold]

SSO doesnt exist, didnt exist before and never will

Its all mandela effect

[azure oak]

basic version

(mannequin just means that there is 0 public sprites available)

[pulsar cobalt]

is the 2nd empty one meant to be summoner blood moon? cuz im pretty sure thatll be post eye

not pre boss

[azure oak]

used the order from the future content doc

[pulsar cobalt]

guh

blood moon items is tiered at post eye + blood orbs r being moved to post eye

time to kill vanillin ig

@vivid hemlock im KILLING you

you will be DESTROYED

[oblique escarp]

I hope the calamitous set is updated for calamitas' resprite

[wooden blade]

if she even gets another one

[oblique escarp]

I meant for the current sprite, the calamitous set is still themed after her old sprite

[wooden blade]

oh yeah that

yeah why not

although i kinda like it the way it is though so idk

[oblique escarp]

I said this before and someone said it'd be too big for a player but with armors like these I don't think that's an issue

[oblique escarp]

I mean they could also make an ancient version from shimmering it or something

[warm current]

what's the arsenal armor tier progression again?

i only remember arsenal>plaguebringer>tarragon>exo

unless i got plaguebringer one wrong

[valid crypt]

What calamitous set?
Demonshade?
Thats not based on eyeball scal anymore

[oblique escarp]

this one

[valid crypt]

Ah ok

[oblique escarp]

to be fair the drop chance from Scal is like 10% so I understand people not knowing

[warm current]

so demonshade rework is gonna be scal related and being class based armor sets right?

[high scaffold]

seems so

[oblique escarp]

makes sense since we're getting exo armor as well

[viral merlin]

One day

Eventually

Maybe after Deltarune gets it's ending

[acoustic shell]

My friend makes insane ken carson sounding beats

And hes gonna sample Calamity and Terraria and Undertale hella

Ima plug u guys with his @ when hes done

Hes gonna cook hella

His prod name is Cyrus

[azure oak]

W.I.P. Post-ML section

[oblique escarp]

they better keep omega blue armor

[summer shore]

Chart guy at it again

Pop off

[pseudo vector]

you know what's funny, i think some of these are actually new to me lol

i hadn't seen the exo armour before today

i guess that's what happens when you're out of the loop with the mod for over 2 years lmao

i playing a game of catchup with everything calamity lately

[silk terrace]

WHAT

HOLY SPOILEROUS

future bosses coming back or? (I've never fought them)

[native thistle]

There is always the calamity future doc you can check out.

[silk terrace]

nvm I'm a fucking dumbass forget about what I said

this is just normal expert mode Dragon God Yharon

[raw pendant]

It's definitely not an old screenshot

You have the Corruption shrine at the bottom of the map

Which wasn't until wayyy after future bosses died

[azure oak]

also it has the orderbringer rework

[steep path]

sometimes I forget calamitous is a real word and isn't just a calamity mod shitpost

[silk terrace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457563144852865041/1141887505470345367/togif-7.gif

you are right

they might be back

[raw pendant]

I was going to say that as well

[azure oak]

probably just a shitpost tbh

[silk terrace]

ima be real I'm not keeping up with weapon reworks so I could never catch that

I just forget about them until I actually start to use them ingame and realise they are different from previous versions

[raw pendant]

You never know...

[oblique escarp]

unrelated but how are you so peak?

[pseudo vector]

idk

[azure oak]

cdmusic just kinda does stuff and it comes out good

[silk terrace]

actually regarding music are there like 3 composers now?

[raw pendant]

Currently yes

[silk terrace]

oh cool

[raw pendant]

It'll be just two later on but

[silk terrace]

who leaving?

[raw pendant]

Right now it's CD, Tyeski, and Heart

[raw pendant]

CD when he's done with his tracks

[pseudo vector]

even after i'm done with my obligations i might stay around to help out in other ways

[raw pendant]

Mm i see

[silk terrace]

ah that explains the leaving composer role and joining back dev position now

[raw pendant]

But as a musician gone probably

Just assistance

[pseudo vector]

i've been doing a lot of testing help and offering up ideas for stuff lately

[raw pendant]

Tyeski and Heart are most likely the final composers and I see it very unlikely that they leave due to their dedication to finish the soundtrack

[oblique escarp]

which tracks has Tyeski made?

[silk terrace]

acid rain tier 3

the new one

[azure oak]

terracotta for VCMM

[raw pendant]

All acid rain themes

Future ones

[oblique escarp]

there's a new one?

[azure oak]

and is currently working on acid rain tier1

[pseudo vector]

tyeski is making all new acid rain tracks

[silk terrace]

yeah so the acid rain themes were all placeholders

[raw pendant]

What if he is already done...

[oblique escarp]

tbh I actually really liked the tier 3 theme

[silk terrace]

and it was not replaced for like 6 years till now

[raw pendant]

Yup

[silk terrace]

what other themes are placeholders again aside from acid rain and exos

[raw pendant]

Tyeski is good with his cal music

[silk terrace]

or is that it?

[raw pendant]

Uhh

I think that's it

[silk terrace]

oh ok

[raw pendant]

Publicly known at the very least

[pseudo vector]

there isn't much left in terms of placeholders

acid rain and exos are the only ones

[silk terrace]

for some reason I thought one or two abyss layer themes were placeholders but ig not

[azure oak]

layer 3 had a placeholder but it got replaced last update

[pseudo vector]

old layer 3 sorta just existed and was a bit out of place

and i made the new one

[raw pendant]

Yknow I think Primordial Wyrm should js get its own theme and the og should be its original intent

[silk terrace]

oh yeah

thats why

[raw pendant]

Minibosses thene

Idk if that's happening i haven't heard of anything of any sort like that but

[oblique escarp]

I agree that the abyss minibosses should use the theme too

[raw pendant]

It would be cool

[lean relic]

dang auric rogue helmet is gone again

[raw pendant]

Primordial Wyrm has potential for a cool ass theme

[oblique escarp]

though they should absolutely reworked as well, reaper shark and colossal squid are just far too easy

[raw pendant]

But unfortunately I haven't heard of it being a thing yet so

We can only dream

[lean relic]

i assume these armor designs are scrapped and getting new one

[oblique escarp]

I really how evil 2 bosses are being moved up in progression

[oblique escarp]

so the world evil is actually relevent post moon lord

and also because it has literally nothing to do with aerialite

[lean relic]

theres a reason why i inserted "Post-" 😉

[silk terrace]

[wooden blade]

he has the potential to be a cool superboss in general imo

the idea of fighting like, fucking leviathan from subnautica in the darkest pits of the abyss sounds so good on paper

too bad it's just lunatic cultist on steroids

[acoustic shell]

I think both seem post ml

[acoustic shell]

hope not those r fire

Slime God to me sounds like it should be early post ml

However I seriously do think that there should only be one of it's gaurdians at a time, like either the corruption or crimson one based on world evil, and both in drunk world seeds / Legendary mode

Way more fitting and unique

and fought in respective evil biome

[fathom girder]

The fabled evil 3 boss

[acoustic shell]

just scrap it

jk

i hope the blood moon summoner armor is post skeletron

[azure oak]

never let calamity fans cook dawg

[acoustic shell]

theres already the coat then the obsidian mid game then the bee late pre hm and then like pre wof summon armor would be neat

overshadowing vanilla content is a no no

bro theres literally necro armor at the same point in the game

why not make it mid game

cause rn its fossil armor > NOTHING UNTIL SKELETRON > Necro 🙂

why make it Fossil > NOTHING UNTIL SKELETRON > Necro, Crags armor 😄

[azure oak]

aerospec armor is still a thing.....

[acoustic shell]

Shoot u right

Still

2 ranged armors at the same time baffles me

[azure oak]

crags armor is after necro

it literally says right there that it's the same tier as statigel

[acoustic shell]

slime gods getting moved to pre plant

Oh wait i see

[azure oak]

unconfirmed

[acoustic shell]

Because calamitas clone will get moved to the crags pre hm

so she drops ranged armor same tier as statigel

wait that makes sense

[fathom girder]

Unconfirmed

[uneven drift]

why would SG be pst ML when he's supposed to be a really weak god? around post WoF to Plantera tier is good, keep him somewhere between those parts of progression.

[fathom girder]

[azure oak]

the slime god & calclone retier is very much still an idea

[acoustic shell]

Alr

Makes sense

It'd be cool if calamitas clone got moved and turned into one of those alternate hardmode enabler bosses

ik starlight river wanted to do something like that

[oblique escarp]

is calclone actually gonna be in the crag?

[acoustic shell]

like an alternate wall of flesh you can fight

[azure oak]

never let calamity fans cook

[uneven drift]

yes I know that. If you're going to move him keep him weak, I get that his strenght comes from the Paladins, but it wouldn't make sense for him to command things that rival shit like Deus and crippled Fovos when together

[azure oak]

was saying it to skib

[oblique escarp]

ngl the crystal inside queen slime kinda looks like slime god

[uneven drift]

it does but it seems the writers don't like QS lore right now

[oblique escarp]

no clue what it could be tho

[silk terrace]

teehee fovos

[azure oak]

rn the lore is that slime god was too weak to control the hallowed paladin and got eaten by it or smth idk

[oblique escarp]

I mean slime god should be kinda weak but not that weak

[azure oak]

if the retier happens then it'd be that queenslime is a rogue paladin

[oblique escarp]

slime revolts from their god and becomes a woman?! (slimes go woke?)

[summer shore]

Now make king slime a paladin as well 🔥

[oblique escarp]

far too weak for that imo

[summer shore]

You're too weak

[oblique escarp]

ouch

[summer shore]

Sorry you had to find out this way

[oblique escarp]

all my infernum playthroughs, were they all lies?

[azure oak]

excuse how spread out it is rn

[summer shore]

Not canon so

[buoyant pulsar]

i like cal clone shes pretty (humanoid)

look shes a little silly ok?

[oblique escarp]

what's cal clone's canon human design?

[buoyant pulsar]

i don't think cal clone has a canon human design in main cal

[modern grove]

she probbaly loos like calamitas

just a guess

[buoyant pulsar]

sorta but sillier

[oblique escarp]

so I'm guessing you mean her infernum design

[buoyant pulsar]

sure

[oblique escarp]

based

[buoyant pulsar]

ugh its 4:30 am

[modern grove]

Infernum one i'm pretty sure is the 22 scrapped design but without the mech and all

[buoyant pulsar]

shes silly and i like her

[oblique escarp]

pat

[modern grove]

wlould be awesome if calclone was themed around magitech and stuff

[fathom girder]

Pretty sure this is fairly outdated

[summer shore]

no it's scrapped

Though even before 22 it was already outdated

[pseudo vector]

yeah that design is scrapped unfortunately

it went hard as fuck though

[buoyant pulsar]

ik lol

dw

[buoyant pulsar]

TRUE

the slow evolution into my pookum schmookums

peanut butter goliath <3

i love pbg so much but they HAVE to do something about the mines and missiles

they're basically invisible

[dense sundial]

Green Bee…

[glass path]

shes just sick

[pseudo vector]

get that bee some meds bruh

[vivid hemlock]

couldnt care less 😊

[pseudo vector]

she look fucked up rn

[pulsar cobalt]

im going to dip you in cooking oil

[buoyant pulsar]

pookiebringer goliath

[pulsar cobalt]

turn u into a deep fried snack

[azure oak]

not fucked up enough, melt the bee more

[vivid hemlock]

😁

[viral merlin]

Pbg looks slimed

[azure oak]

not enough goop

[buoyant pulsar]

chat its five am do i sleep

[lean relic]

go sleep

[buoyant pulsar]

ok

sleep time

🛌

[lean relic]

btw spoilerous but
Xelo who made the current slime god concept art
i am in the server where he dipped on modworks
and its my first and favorite steam game

man its insane this guy is everywhere

[fringe quiver]

Im stuck on this mf..

[fathom girder]

What's the bolt

Why is defiled feather there

What is this

[fringe quiver]

there was going to be an actual lore explanation

but honestly

[azure oak]

ermurs

[fringe quiver]

the thematics just go better with

yk

you killing the sky boss to get the sky ore

not to say the lore explanation for evil2 aerialite would've been bad or anything that's not what i'm getting at

it just flows better yk?

[summer shore]

Old resprite for the difficulty selection thingy

Back when defiled and armageddon were still real

[fathom girder]

I see

[summer shore]

And when difficulties were still activated with items

[fringe quiver]

what the fuck is armageddon

i know about defiled but wtf is that one

[fathom girder]

Nohit forced

[summer shore]

Also wtf new pre hm armors

[fathom girder]

But you get 10 bags per kill

[fringe quiver]

oh it was just nohit

[summer shore]

Nohit in exchange for 6 bags

[fringe quiver]

oh ok

[fathom girder]

Oh only 6 oops

[fringe quiver]

yeah i can see why that was removed to be honest

[fathom girder]

Armageddon malice profaned guardians :)

[fringe quiver]

its such a extreme risk vs reward to the point it really wouldn't be appliable to almost all scenarios

[fathom girder]

Literally impossible unless you did a circle strat

We love old malice profaned chicken nuggets

[fringe quiver]

defiled feather is also funny

like

if for whatever reason someone wanted to do a no wings challenge

just

you know

dont. dont equip them

[fathom girder]

Honestly no wing challenges will be fun with sso

[summer shore]

It is literally just for farming lower tier bosses

put on arma then kill idk eater 40 times

[fringe quiver]

this is comical

[summer shore]

Infinite money

[fringe quiver]

do u guys remember purified jam

it was such a mess

[oblique escarp]

bro this item was so weird

[fathom girder]

I miss purified jam

:(

[fringe quiver]

purified jam was a game design nightmare i think

[summer shore]

I don't

Resident evil ass item in terraria

[fringe quiver]

it have a soft spot for it just due to how chaotic its existence is

[fathom girder]

I like being immortal

[fringe quiver]

but my god from a game design standpoint this thing is horrid

[summer shore]

Same deal as the resident evil guns

It's so stupid

[fathom girder]

Elephant gun

[oblique escarp]

what even was that line of guns I never used them

[fathom girder]

Basically

Massive damage guns that used special ammo

[fringe quiver]

OH MY GOD THE

[fathom girder]

But you could only use em a couple times per fight

[fringe quiver]

the classless guns

[hard hearth]

i remember those

[fringe quiver]

those were ALSO a game design nightmare

[hard hearth]

those were funny

[fathom girder]

Legendary weapon ass designs

[lean relic]

"you can only shoot 4 times in boss fight"

[fringe quiver]

both those and purified jam are the sort of thing that sounds awesome on paper but in practice is hell torture

[lean relic]

whatever....

[still bluff]

Purified jam was peak idk what you mean smh

[hard hearth]

nobody used purified jam ironically enough

[fringe quiver]

purified jam and elephant guns were comical

[hard hearth]

cause it was always on cooldown since people always healed

[still bluff]

I used it quite a lot for shredding down WoF tbh

Never any other time lmao

[hard hearth]

true melee got the most advantage for it yea but i dont think back when jam existed true melee was pushed very hard like it is now

[lean relic]

people used purified jam only in Primordial Wyrm fight
along with Coldheart Icicle

[fringe quiver]

coldheart icicle is the survivor

still ingame.......

[lean relic]

actually good times

[hard hearth]

[oblique escarp]

love how the old leviathan sprite just had no legs

[vivid hemlock]

bro was chopped

[plush carbon]

Purified Jam’s only use was death mode WoF

Hilarious addition though

Invinvibility item limited to only 5 per player ever

[fringe quiver]

old lore leviathan was chopped in half

🥀 this is so sad 🫗

[oblique escarp]

can't tell if that's a joke or not

[plush carbon]

She legit was

Got stuck under a rock or something

[fringe quiver]

yeah thats not a joke thats unironically a thing that happened

[valid crypt]

A rock fell on them

[fringe quiver]

big ass rock

[plush carbon]

Dunno if you can tell

But i love laughing at old calamity

[valid crypt]

Mid hardmode boss vs a big rock

[azure oak]

wow

[oblique escarp]

side note but I like how leviathan is a marine reptile and not a fish

fat mosasaurus

[dull heart]

blood moon armor is peak

[fringe quiver]

thing

[valid crypt]

More infographics!

[plush carbon]

I HAD A DREAM

[fringe quiver]

the leviathan design looks kind of frog pilled tbh

looking at it now

actually

its incredibly temnospondyl pilled

[plush carbon]

I DREAMT THE EXO ARMOUR MADE YOU RIDE A GIANT TANK

[pulsar cobalt]

mannequins and armours are facing in different directions i dont like that please fix

[fringe quiver]

this will be leviathan graphics in 2012

[plush carbon]

The tank was not toggleable

And it was some wily machine ass thing

[vivid hemlock]

profaned guardians armor... (post providence)

[lean relic]

here is the moon

not the red potato

[fringe quiver]

its nice that melee is finally getting a early pre hm set

it literally dosent have any pre hm sets besides molten 😭

[plush carbon]

gold armour is now DEAD

[fringe quiver]

gold armor is boring...

its just defense

blehhhhhhhhhhh

[dull heart]

It gives dmg based on your money in cal

Iirc

[lean relic]

🏃‍➡️

[plush carbon]

Yea calamity made them more unique

[plush carbon]

This is the infographic of all time

[oblique escarp]

SCISSOR

[fringe quiver]

kill the kill

[lean relic]

the scissor that cuts gods

[fringe quiver]

ngl i didnt even know about that

[fathom girder]

I still don't understand why wr craft a broken sword

[fringe quiver]

thats neat ig

[fathom girder]

Like bro just make it a full sword

[rustic fulcrum]

Yeah I think I watched that

[fringe quiver]

We tried but we had skill issue unfortunately

thats the lore

trust

[plush carbon]

Lesser Biome Blade

[raw falcon]

terrarian fucked the sword up, had to go bald

[fringe quiver]

i like big scissor weapons

they remind me of klk

beloved show

[cunning sequoia]

big scissor lmfao

[lean relic]

hope Rebecca adds lore tooltip explaining why terrarian made broken sword

[raw falcon]

I mean. Ark of the elements/cosmos is a direct reference

[plush carbon]

Fun show

Nui is a piece of shit

[dull heart]

knowing that blood moon armor is revealed - that's the third armor set I've worked on recently

[oblique escarp]

was watching an old calamity video and I got reminded of weapon proficiency, what a pointless feature

[dull heart]

It'll be fun

[raw falcon]

What did weapon proficiency even do

[plush carbon]

Shinryu cursed the sword

[fathom girder]

Minor leveling system

[pulsar cobalt]

gi

[plush carbon]

She’s got you there

[fringe quiver]

real and true

[raw falcon]

Wasn't it like. Entirely inconsequential to gameplay

[dull heart]

Bonus dmg or something

[fringe quiver]

yes

[fathom girder]

It was useless

[plush carbon]

Unless you’re summoner

[dull heart]

It made a minimal difference

[plush carbon]

Summon got extra minion slots for free

[fathom girder]

Summoner got one single extra summon at max level

[plush carbon]

No it was more than that

[fathom girder]

It was

And then it got nerfed

[plush carbon]

I see

[dull heart]

Still insane

[raw falcon]

absolutely fabsolian game design

[lean relic]

Reb when she writes lore descriptions for every single cal items

[plush carbon]

I remember playing with proficiency so ye

[plush carbon]

This implied the item is killed

[fringe quiver]

wooden sword description:
uhh its a sword made of wood and yharim used it ot kill the god of wood abd hjb nmgsfghk

[plush carbon]

I like the idea of adding lore to an item that KILLS it

[raw falcon]

I just got confirmation, yharims sword is just for show, he beat the gods to death with a rock

a very, very big rock

[plush carbon]

The same one that snapped Levi in two

[fringe quiver]

ngl yharim throwing hands

would be cool.

[pulsar cobalt]

a medium sized rock actually

[fringe quiver]

guy just drops his sword and goes

nah im killing this mf with my own hands

[pulsar cobalt]

jetstream sam

[raw falcon]

you might call it a boulder

[plush carbon]

Yharim when he slams his fist on his table so hard it shakes the entire earth:

[fringe quiver]

yharim needs to beat you to death

[fathom girder]

The sound of yharim's knuckles cracking is actually auric rejection snapping his joints back into place

Every punch is empowered by auric rejection against non auric dragon types

[plush carbon]

Would Auric be like a springlock suit to the unworthy

[fathom girder]

It would be worse

[plush carbon]

Brilliant

[fathom girder]

You would explode indefinitely if it somehow covers you entirely

[raw falcon]

Yharim has nanomachines actually

[raw falcon]

i think you‘d just implode tbh

[fringe quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

like this

[raw falcon]

if we act under the assumption that auric rejection just propels you away from the metal itself, it‘d act more like a compressive force

[fathom girder]

I suppose it would

[raw falcon]

you‘d literally get crushed

imagine if yharim built auric iron maidens 💀

[fathom girder]

Oh god

[fringe quiver]

horrible

[fathom girder]

You close it on some poor soul

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explode-explosions-gif-17468299

Fuck

Hate no embed perms

[dull heart]

auric maidens

[plush carbon]

I wonder if Solyn can die of auric rejection in WOTG

I’ve seen it affect her

And if she does die what happens

I think it might just respawn her at camp immediately

[plush carbon]

Immortal

Noted

[azure oak]

h

[plush carbon]

I also tested to see if you can put Solyn’s camp in hell

You can

[dull heart]

yeah, that's what i did on GFB

[plush carbon]

She’ll jump around in the lava like a bubble bath

It’s very funny

Gonna need to make it a gif

[dull heart]

dunno what's been spilled on blood moon armor but

it'll be a tank armor set

[summer shore]

huh

First ever pre hardmode tank no way

[raw falcon]

heh, spilled

[summer shore]

(ik crimson exists)

[raw falcon]

nice

[lean relic]

you can do it on moon

[plush carbon]

I know its themed around the Wandering Eye Fish

[summer shore]

What the fuck

Wotg adds the moon ⁉️

[raw falcon]

no

tis a seperate mod

[azure oak]

macrocosm mod

i am the one who charts

[summer shore]

Cartographer

[oblique escarp]

rewatching GP's mad playthrough and holy shit Fabsol's comments that were shown is so corny

[raw falcon]

oh?

[oblique escarp]

feels like he was praising malice like it wasn't just increasing boss speed and aggression and that's it

[raw falcon]

oh i gotta check that out

[oblique escarp]

"plenty of testers took more attempts on malice than with mutant"
yeah because mutant is actually a good boss

[hoary meteor]

why is there only one rogue set in pre hm

[oblique escarp]

they have the sulphurous set already

[fringe quiver]

this radiates "haha my mod is harder than YOUR mod" energy

[raw falcon]

Yeah, because mutant isnt absolute bullshit gamedesign

[azure oak]

because that's the only one with any confirmed changes

[raw falcon]

real

[oblique escarp]

FR

[fringe quiver]

it feels so petty

like dawg who cares

[hoary meteor]

oh it's only sets getting changed

[fringe quiver]

anyone can make something hard it dosent require talent

i could make a insanely hard boss too

[oblique escarp]

there's a modder called Fabsol that I think is a good example of this

[lyric trellis]

“Every malice boss is far too fast to outrun” so true

[fringe quiver]

guys the stupid fucking oneshot monkey i added to reign of yharim is literally peak boss design it oneshots you and outruns you

[stuck kite]

the humble 8% quick speed modifiet

[fringe quiver]

im literally god

[raw falcon]

It reads as though fabsol thought he created some sort of masterclass of difficulty, like this was the fucking pinnacle of hard booss fights

[hasty tangle]

[pulsar cobalt]

first polyphemalus iteration

🙏

[oblique escarp]

my mod is harder than eternity, AND infernum!

[warm current]

Wait a minute dragonfolly and evil 2 boss are being re-tiered????

[fringe quiver]

maybe

not confirmed

but possibly

[oblique escarp]

W content btw

[lyric trellis]

Also “malice golem was created by an evil man” I wonder who

[hasty tangle]

thank you

[stuck kite]

like hmmm

[fathom girder]

Evil 2 bosses are 95% getting retiered

Dragonfolly is a maybe still i think

[stuck kite]

anywho

[azure oak]

evil2 boss placement rn is dumb

[raw falcon]

I mean. He wasnt wrong.

[vivid hemlock]

its both

[oblique escarp]

he acts like this is a good thing lmao

[fathom girder]

Foreshadowing is a plot device often used to foretell a future event

[lyric trellis]

“These bosses are so evil and bad, people will hate them” still makes them 🔥

[oblique escarp]

and then gets removed a year later

[raw falcon]

at this point im convinced that fab conflated bad game design and difficulty

[glass path]

proceeds to make master

[stuck kite]

i cant wait for the days of stupid ass difficulty to be over

[fringe quiver]

this feels so incredibly petty like my god nobody cares how hard your boss fights are its not indicative of you being a good designer

[raw falcon]

it doesnt read as petty (wich, mind you, it absolutely is), and moreso as incompetent tbh

[stuck kite]

and proceedingly a small vocal amount of people getting mad calamity is getting easier like idc

[oblique escarp]

both

[oblique escarp]

yeah like try infernum or no hitting

[stuck kite]

the elitism branch shall be severed

[fringe quiver]

kill them !

[raw falcon]

Like, that guy absolutely thought that difficult = good when thats absolutely not the case, especially when he clearly didnt care for actual balance

[lyric trellis]

Wouldn’t be surprised if it gets harder in the future if any vanilla stat changed are removed/unnerfed + death will be an actual difficulty

[granite smelt]

Yuh coz fab is shit at boss design

[oblique escarp]

you think infernum and eternity are difficult, try this!
makes actual ass

[raw falcon]

Yeah because he thinks hard = good

this mindset a good boss design does not make

and he doesnt care for how the boss becomes hard, just that it is

[oblique escarp]

it needs to be balanced

[hoary meteor]

i tried master mode death and quit before killing desert scourge cuz he was total bullshit

[fringe quiver]

to this day i think my favorite boss fight in tmod has been sir nautilus

and that was like

a really easy fight

so that's. saying something

[oblique escarp]

same, tried all the first three bosses and couldn't do any of them

[raw falcon]

Mine was void worm lol

fucking loved that guy

[hoary meteor]

im doing infernum now and it's way better than master death

[raw falcon]

that and convective wanderer

[oblique escarp]

like, king slime spawning spiked slimes and EoC summing wandering eyes

[raw falcon]

i dont like infernum either tbh, feels overcooked at times

[hoary meteor]

idk how far i'll make it into infernum

i've heard the difficulty get's kinda dumb as you go on

[oblique escarp]

just ignore old duke and you'll be fine

[hoary meteor]

i've only killed up to brain of cthulhu so far

[raw falcon]

providence is absolute bullshit btw

i do not like infernum providence

[oblique escarp]

I see lot's of people not like infernum providence but idk why

I like it

[hoary meteor]

i kinda struggled with the brain and i heard there's a big difficulty jump at skeletron. hopefully i'm good enough to get past that

[oblique escarp]

skeletron is really tough for first time players but it's fair

[hoary meteor]

my biggest annoyance has been that many bosses will shoot lots of projectiles with a small gap to dodge through. on it's own that's fine but it sucks to mess it up and get knockbaced into another projectile, and then knockbacked into the boss

but after i get cobalt shield that should be ok

[oblique escarp]

the only positive thing I can say about malice mode isn't even anything to do with the difficulty itself

I like the idea of challenge items

[thick coyote]

reminding me of this reminds me

i actually hate qol mods now because of a couple things devs have said that implies like

they cant balance around difficulty to obtain as much

thanks to qol mods

[oblique escarp]

wdym

[wooden blade]

i mean

it shouldn't be their priority to think of qol mods imo, they can balance it out for the mod itself, it's the players who decide if they want to use these mods or not

[thick coyote]

I agree

[oblique escarp]

I'm thankful that alch has npc configs since I hate the operator and tinkerer

they both just get rid of major parts of the game

[hard hearth]

goblin tinkerer

[hoary meteor]

what crazy qol mods are people using that make it like that. i just use vein miner magic storage and fargos mutant mod and i don't see how those affect the difficulty of obtaining things

[thick coyote]

because you can buy a lot of rare items

so they cant makr a super hard crafting recipe and make that weapon giga strong

everyone will just buy the mats

[wooden blade]

i used alchemist and quality of lifes, it's good but feels different imo

[hoary meteor]

what mod let's you buy materials?

[wooden blade]

alchemistNPC

[thick coyote]

alch

and fargos

[oblique escarp]

why farm for essences after DoG when you can just buy them and skip straight to Yharon?
why go to the dungeon post plantera when you can just buy ectoplasm?
why go to the abyss when you can buy depth cells and lumenyl?

[hoary meteor]

oh i dot use alchemistNPC. free potions feels like cheating

[wooden blade]

tbf atleast fargos balances it out by asking you to farm FIRST before you an buy items and all

alchemist gives you everything directly

[thick coyote]

alch npc turns the game into shop simulator

[oblique escarp]

I'm fine with buying potions, I don't like farming herbs anyway

[wooden blade]

atleast depends

[hoary meteor]

why not just make everything free to craft at that point

[wooden blade]

same, but atleast cal gives many ways to have plants and herbs easily

like the giant planetoid, full of herbs

[thick coyote]

im not because it shifts perception of the game

[oblique escarp]

I will never ever use the operator or tinkerer though, those are just game breaking

[thick coyote]

fun fact rev is balanced around you only using a couple of buffs

[oblique escarp]

I don't even get all the buffs right away

I just get them slowly

[thick coyote]

well most do

[oblique escarp]

also since I have fargo's I just buy 30 for the infinite buff

by perforators I'll only have basic buffs

[thick coyote]

i dont like the infinite buff but i get it

id i could see the infinite buff to be at like

99 potions

via a config

then I'd use it

[hard hearth]

zaced

farming herbs zzz... zzz...

blinkroot when its rng which times it blooms

so you cant just put da seeds come back later for mass harvest like the rest of the plants

[oblique escarp]

what does zaced mean lol

[hard hearth]

another way of saying based

[oblique escarp]

ok

[flat folio]

Infernum is a bit of an Oppenheimer moment
Accidentally became a poster child for "Well what if all the Calamity bosses were better and not made by Fabsol, with difficulty on the side?" ((They're still really flawed))

[oblique escarp]

I mean I like almost all of the infernum bosses

[warm current]

say uh

[oblique escarp]

some could use tweaks to be fair

[warm current]

is the reaver shark buff gonna get reverted and cannot be shimmered into molten pickaxe

[oblique escarp]

bro that was so dumb why was that reverted to begin with

[valid crypt]

Pretty sure yeah

Tho theres other ways for molten apparently

[oblique escarp]

it was nerfed for a reason

[summer shore]

Maybe maybe not

[hard hearth]

relogic hates fun

[pulsar cobalt]

lucille gave shaders to bosses, and for that, she was chained for all eternity

[warm current]

wait why even reaver get nerfed besides no fun?

[summer shore]

eternity... like.... mode

[hard hearth]

there isnt any other reason

[warm current]

cuz oof how people can cheese with molten armor in pre-boss?

[hard hearth]

its just because of no fun

[warm current]

i guess that's just them trolling

[summer shore]

Lucille will now make the rest of dlc eternity bosses

[hard hearth]

relogic HATES you

[pulsar cobalt]

yes (ignore like demon scythe also being tiered at the same strength but obtainable pre boss)

[warm current]

like they doo that and then slap in the fucking gfb

[oblique escarp]

curious to how eternity-death Scal will be

[warm current]

the fucking gfb seed

that shit is one hell of a seed

so i can only see as them trolling

[gritty torrent]

Tried both, didn't get enough, what do i do now

[valid crypt]

Gfb is a meme i dont think taking it seriously is a good idea

[hard hearth]

nohit blushiemagic

[warm current]

so basically bro noticed his infernum ai looks kinda mid but it's already done so now he get 2nd chance via emode?

[oblique escarp]

never understood why people did to begin with

[oblique escarp]

her*

[warm current]

oh

i thought lucille a guy ngl

[gritty torrent]

Janky hellhole of a boss.

[warm current]

😭

[hard hearth]

:)

[summer shore]

It was a joke I don't think she's making any more

[dawn ferry]

blushiemagic in 2025,,,

[fathom girder]

Every bullethell phase is now sans

[summer shore]

She's made eternity old duke and exos

That's a lot already

[warm current]

oh ic

[flat folio]

This will be SCal in 2018

[warm current]

i guess other devs gonna touch other bosses emode ai

[fathom girder]

Real

[summer shore]

The project is under javyz anyways

[gritty torrent]

2018? :huh:

[valid crypt]

Scal makes you fight every sans fangame ever at once

[warm current]

so jav is gonna continue the rest

[hard hearth]

☹️

[flat folio]

The youngins dun remember...

[wooden blade]

thank fuck someone said it, i was never a fan of infernum at all with the exos and providence being the only two bosses i REALLY loved fighting

[thick coyote]

does she know about Permafrost?

[torn kite]

Sunken Sea Overhaul part 1 tomorrow?

[oblique escarp]

I don't even know if emode Scal will be better than infernum's version, infernum Scal is peak

[pulsar cobalt]

mhm totally

[warm current]

infernum DoG to me is basically the right side of spectrum of DoG difficulty to me

[summer shore]

Jav started the whole thing
Lucille got invited to make od and exos

[dull heart]

i think y'all will like new DoG

[warm current]

oh damn

[torn kite]

Nuh

[wooden blade]

nah i hated it (prolly because of skill issue atp lol)

[warm current]

oobviously

[thick coyote]

i also think you guys will like the new dog

[warm current]

cuz well

[gritty torrent]

Some people enjoy that kinda difficulty

[warm current]

ngl i waslike

[valid crypt]

It gonna be tolerable

[thick coyote]

ive only seen one attack from new dog and its absolute cinema

[pulsar cobalt]

now im gonna SPECIFICALLY hate it just to SPITE YOU

[warm current]

ABLE TO BEAT DOG WITH 2 PLATFORM

😭

[fathom girder]

Oh, is he getting more than the laser removal?

Exciting

[warm current]

LIKE 2 FLOOR OF PLATFORM

[wooden blade]

devourer of gods 2!!!

[warm current]

AND I SOMEHOW WHOOP CURRENT DOG

[pulsar cobalt]

not until doze touched it like a week ago

[fathom girder]

Oh

[dull heart]

laser removal made him easily the worst fight in the mod

but i fixed him

[oblique escarp]

to be fair I do glaze infernum lol

[flat folio]

The bar's kinda subterranean atm so it shouldn't be too hard to clear

Curious to see the results doe

[fathom girder]

Lul

[gritty torrent]

Sorry are we talking about edeath or new calamity rework

[warm current]

oh sup karma

[fathom girder]

Yeah i'm excited to see what you do with DoG

[torn kite]

Isn't he already??????

[dull heart]

at least he has contenders currently

but in dev he was just

[torn kite]

Nuh

[dull heart]

so incredibly nothing

[gritty torrent]

Lasers were annoying as fuck and extremely unfun