calamity-update-talk

[summer shore]

Name never was confirmed

[fringe quiver]

Shinryu is not real

[azure oak]

who dat

[plush carbon]

I only call him that as a troll

[lavish otter]

Who's Shinryu?

[fringe quiver]

Was a name reb proposed for OD for 0.17 seconds

[nocturne crater]

tf is shinryu

[nocturne crater]

Oh

[summer shore]

Shinryu is a silly name it's literally just shin (true/new) ryu (dragon)

[lavish otter]

PF-

[nocturne crater]

Ryu is dragon

[nocturne crater]

Shin can have multiple meanings tbf

[plush carbon]

Fell Progeny Shinryu is so funny

[hushed hazel]

Kung fu panda core

[cunning sequoia]

its just kinda bland

[summer shore]

yes that's what I meant by the /

It's either new or true

Probably not true

Maybe new

[nocturne crater]

There's more to this game

[plush carbon]

but he's not new

he's Old

[summer shore]

exactly

[lavish otter]

Old Duke, after its immense amount of changes, has now become Young and Fresh Duke

[plush carbon]

How do you come up with a worse name than Old Duke

[cunning sequoia]

typically first thoughts arent

well

thought through

[plush carbon]

It reminds me of the first name I thought of for an OC related to parallel realities

Lella

[cunning sequoia]

mozalella

[plush carbon]

la la

[vivid hemlock]

its not even a duke at all

[azure oak]

Old Duke, after its immense amount of changes, has now become Young and Fresh "not even a duke at all"

[lavish otter]

Young, Fresh, and Dukeless

[tropic pawn]

Am I the only one that's satisfied with current calamity

[vivid hemlock]

Yes

[hushed hazel]

Probably not

But in terms of people here right now yes

[urban cloak]

There's definitely a lot of people both here and outside of this server that are satisifed with Calamity

The ones who aren't are just more vocal in this server

[azure oak]

calamity's still pretty fun rn so i can see why people would be satisfied with it

[tropic pawn]

Dont get me wrong I thoroughly welcome new changes
But I dont think things that are being changed were as bad as they're said to be

[lavish otter]

Typically at least, there's people on the other side who come out of the woodworks in response to all of the changes that're being made like TRG

[azure oak]

but having stuff to do other than beating some just kinda alright bosses would make a playthrough feel a lot more... idk, "complete"?

[vivid hemlock]

see, a big issue with current calamity is that i feel like im playing a mod from like 2020, in 2025

[azure oak]

true

[lavish otter]

Also honestly, I think this could be a "stared at the painting for too long" situation
No one's spent as much time looking into the depths of Calamity's content as the devs

[tropic pawn]

It's also worth mentioning I haven't been playing Calamity for that long... a year at most? It was like a month after DS got resprited when I started.

[azure oak]

the resprite happened on may 10th last year

byeah calamity's remained pretty stagnant

[lavish otter]

God damn- it's been that long already?

[azure oak]

oh wait right the countdown

67 days until time between BH and SSO part 1 is longer than between R&D and draedon update

[vivid hemlock]

a big factor in this is that calamity player tend not to play other mods, and also dont really interact with most of the non boss content in it

[azure oak]

true

[hoary trench]

As a calamity player™ I can confirm that I ignore all content added except crabulon

[oak niche]

I’ve played since the dawn of most cal music. The mod has changed a LOT since then and it’ll continue to do so but as long as the devs feel passionate about the project, we’re gonna see more good than bad.

[tropic pawn]

I hope so, especially with the recent developer change I think the future looks bright

[azure oak]

especially the bosses

[hard hearth]

me

well, current calam not so much

but there have been plenty of points that i thought it was satisfying

[indigo fog]

If we get those planned boss tier swap changes my life would be theirs

[hard hearth]

and then fab added (insert dogshit here) and ruined everything

like malicious

[pseudo vector]

i don't think i heard about anyone liking malice mode

[wooden blade]

i find it funny how there's a big chunk of people on the subreddit who want malice mode back, even though it was dogshit

[pseudo vector]

it was just unnecessarily hard for no reason

and just plain unfun

personal preference-wise i play on rev because it's hard but not a huge struggle

[wooden blade]

yeah at first i was like "but it's just a mode you choose after finishing a boss just so you can fight them back in a harder position" then i looked at it more and more and got reminded of how absolutely dogwater the mode was

[urban cloak]

Was the refight thing even real

[wooden blade]

like it would've been fine if it was REALLY difficult but fun then yeah why not

[dense sundial]

Rev also doesn’t have Death enemy speed or Death debuff strength or Death blood moons or Death Destroyer or Death Prime or

[urban cloak]

I swear I remember hearing that was just smth made up quickly after it released to justify it

[wooden blade]

yeah it was basically what some of the devs had said when malice mode released

i think i still have a screenshot for it

[pseudo vector]

death prime and death twins aren't even a thing anymore thankfully so

[dense sundial]

I said Death, not Master-Rev+

[hard hearth]

you are correct

it was, essentially, cope

[dense sundial]

Oblivion and Foveanator are Master-Rev+ things

[wooden blade]

is it bad if i said that death master prime was the only moment where i used godmode?

istg the fight was impossible

[wide nova]

i think calamity and fortnite should collab

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141936516311023726/1247993376914276374/attachment-6.gif

[lyric trellis]

Yharim hits the griddy

[cunning sequoia]

thats me actually

the guy on the left i mean

[rich ginkgo]

TRUE

[azure oak]

draedon cranking 90s

[wide nova]

draedon cranking

[rich ginkgo]

200 pump scal

[pseudo vector]

pause

[rich ginkgo]

[urban cloak]

One of the things I wanna do right after SSO is take a look at all of the Rev+ enemy AI changes since I was refactoring the file with all the vanilla ones

Hopefully those speed changes can take a dent cause they are quite annoying

[wooden blade]

me (a goku chad) with my teammate john wulfrum (a fucking idiot) hitting the gritty until we see scal throwing it with rick from the hit show rick of legends

[wicked lotus]

This. Imo there is no reason to have two evil bosses next to each other in progression, especially since hardmode is lacking an evil boss rn.

[grim cloud]

Play how you want bro, it's singleplayer

[pseudo vector]

i was doing a playthrough that entered hardmode when i switched to a dev build

i unintentionally started playtesting the new weapon reworks LOL

[hard hearth]

quit button immediately

[wide nova]

cdmusic the best calamity tester

[grim cloud]

Playtesting and having fun sounds like an absolute win-win

[wooden blade]

peak

[pseudo vector]

early hardmode mage is peak gaming

[urban cloak]

FINALLY another mage enjoyer

[grim cloud]

Is new update going big on mages btw?

[urban cloak]

🤝

ty cd

[grim cloud]

Is it that uncommon?

[pseudo vector]

i think mage players are eating good in SSO

[grim cloud]

Good to know

[wide nova]

mana power level 5

[wooden blade]

saying this makes me want to do a mage playthrough once the update drops

[pseudo vector]

there's a lot of really cool stuff going on with a lot of mage weapons

[rich ginkgo]

i mean yeah arent they like completely reworking

mana potions too

no more inf mana

lmao

[urban cloak]

most people ive seen pass through this server don't like it (though some of it is to an understandable degree)

[grim cloud]

Do a mage playthrough in general. It's really good

[wicked lotus]

Well, now I know what to play next playthrough for the SSO. Good to know 👍

[pseudo vector]

as someone who hadn't played terraria actively in a long time i haven't had this much fun in forever

[wide nova]

we should do a run charlie

[pseudo vector]

like i actually love playing as a mage LOL

[wide nova]

idt weve ever played terraria together in the 7 years weve known eachtoehr

[grim cloud]

Sad. Mage is probably the most diverse class out there weapon-wise, it's very fun to play

[wooden blade]

yeah i did a while ago! it's really good, if i had to do a ranking i'd do: 1-melee (sorry), 2- mage, 3- summoner, 4-ranger and 5- rogue (mainly cuz i didn't play it yet, apparently it's doodoo)

[rich ginkgo]

this is just like silksong where even a fraction of news is amazing to hear

[wide nova]

actually idt weve played a single game besides phasmophobia

[rich ginkgo]

lets go, the update is fun!!

[pseudo vector]

frfr

that's surprising tbh

[wide nova]

facts

[grim cloud]

Rogue is strong from my feelings, but not immediately. It gets better and better the further you progress. It starts getting very strong shortly after hardmode imo

[wide nova]

you hop in vc a lot when im playing things idk if youve hopped on with us tho

oh shit actually weve played roblox together be4

[wooden blade]

ok ok, might check it out once the update releases

[pseudo vector]

i've been sinking my teeth into testing stuff again these past few days

[wicked lotus]

Melee enjoyer 🔥
Turns out melee is actually a fun class when the weapons aren't just "Default overhead swing and maybe shoot projectiles"

[wooden blade]

yeah exactly lmfao

[grim cloud]

So true

Tank builds are also kinda refreshing

[wooden blade]

melee is fun af when your weapons aren't just "sword throws projectiles"

[grim cloud]

I usually play glass cannon builds

[pseudo vector]

i've been playtesting some boss-related stuff and getting my shit kicked in on rev

[wooden blade]

there's a good chunk of melee weapons that make you interact with the boss more and i like it

did the difficulty increase in rev now?

[grim cloud]

Also true melee slaps damn hard sometimes

[wooden blade]

same, tank doesn't really do much imo

[pseudo vector]

i haven't played through the whole game on rev yet, i might do that in the future

[wooden blade]

YESSS, like as hard as it can be it's so satisfying to ram at bosses and do shit ton of damage

[grim cloud]

I mean tank is refreshing after playing glass cannons so much. It's nice to be able to take a hit and not loose third of my hp instantly

[wooden blade]

that's true

but like post ml i still have the impression that i die quickly

maybe i didn't have a good tank build idk

[wicked lotus]

Ya, slapping warding on everything and actually not die in 2-3 hits feels really nice. Biome blade and the ark swords are peak too
Now that I'm playing ranger rn, it does not feel that fun in comparison

[wooden blade]

ranger fucking sucks btw am sorry

[grim cloud]

Didn't get that far yet, but would make sense. Post ML bosses have very nasty debuffs on attacks

[wooden blade]

it's one of the only times i was fucking tired of a playthrough

[grim cloud]

It's strong, but gets a bit stale after a while

[wooden blade]

especially the exos

[grim cloud]

Ranger is just "me like big gun. Big gun shoot good"

[wooden blade]

yeah that's the issue, it's just strong but that's it

like there's a few good weapons but the rest feel boring imo

[wicked lotus]

Honestly, just decided to play ranger to try the buzzkill/blaster reworks, but overall it feels the exact same as the other ranger playthrough I had like 2 years ago 💀

[grim cloud]

Ranger is so, so very linear. You just keep and your cursor in target, and your distance away from it. Dodge dodge dodge, it's dead. Repeat. Not much going on besides that

I heard ranger gets a lot of new stuff in SSO

[grim cloud]

Buzzkill doesn't work on bosses much from my attempts

It's fantastic at crowd control, but you don't have any issues with that anyway

[hard hearth]

didnt you just describe like almost every class

[wooden blade]

it would've been ok if atelast it was fun

summoner kinda has this but atleast it's fun

[hard hearth]

ranger is fun...

smn is snrrrrk mimimimimi

[wooden blade]

i totally respect that lmao i just don't like it personally

[pseudo vector]

only 5-6 of these were winning attempts btw, including the duration shown here lol

i've been putting in some work

[wicked lotus]

We need more weapons for ranger like the crackshot colt and midas prime

[grim cloud]

Eeeh, melee wants you to get closer for big damage. Summoner too. Rogue has stealth so you need to time attacks (or consider if you want to alternate). Mage has just more diversity in weapons to keep stuff interesting.
Ranger though? Gun brrrrt. I can see the appeal, but it gets stale

[hard hearth]

melee hardly wants you to be close for big damage unless tmelee or the gimmick swords which are rare

[grim cloud]

The f--
What boss is this? What difficulty?

[pseudo vector]

not saying who, it was on rev tho

[grim cloud]

Sheesh

[indigo fog]

This is yharim he's just been hidden from us expertly

[hard hearth]

smn is already outdpsing every class without adding whips into the mix

[wicked lotus]

3 minute fight probably means post-moon lord

[wooden blade]

mage asks you to pay attention at your mana and kinda encourages you to switch between weapons depending on what you have
summoner has whips now so you actually need to take risk
melee
rogue idk
ranger doesn't feel like that imo

[mystic eagle]

Seems like your friend is fighting Desert Scourge in 1.4

[hard hearth]

mage is fun cause the weapons are visually interesting yea

just wish it was a bit more powerful..

[wooden blade]

agreed

[hard hearth]

summoner does NOT need to take any risk

[grim cloud]

Does it? I never tested, but without whips summoner doesn't hit nearly as hard as I'd like. Maybe it's my whip-stacking ass being whiny, but hell

[hard hearth]

take whips out of the equation you're still outdpsing almost everything other than some tiers vs stealth rogue

[mystic eagle]

Hellborn, Buzzkill and Superradiant Slaughterer would like to have a talk with you

that aside, I'm glad more ranger weapons are becoming risk-reward based

[wooden blade]

bro summoners are like, the representation itself of glass canon

[hard hearth]

no?

[wicked lotus]

Rogue has you time your stealth strikes, and then it peaks at the yharon scythe

[hard hearth]

tankiness is mostly acc based not armor based

[grim cloud]

Oh yeah, I tried buzzkill. Didn't go too well in bosses, but shit was fun

[hard hearth]

you're a tank if you put tank accs

[grim cloud]

Ranger needs more of that

[hard hearth]

regardless of class

[wooden blade]

really?

[mystic eagle]

It's a weapon with a high skill ceiling

[valid crypt]

And summoner has atleast like 3 sets with tank armour anyways

[valid crypt]

Yeah?

[wooden blade]

i felt more tanky playing mage or melee than summoner

[mystic eagle]

Its best use varies per situation

[wooden blade]

like atleast i died in 3 or 4 hits

[grim cloud]

If you use it like tmelee I suppose

[wooden blade]

i died in 2 with summoner

[hard hearth]

you were using more summon accs then

[mystic eagle]

But overall the best way is to stay at TMelee range, continuously charge until the most powerful saw and release

[hard hearth]

rather than tank accs

[wooden blade]

yeah prolly

[pulsar cobalt]

summoner barely has less defense than other classes in most stages of the game

[mystic eagle]

Infact Summoner has the most defense in alot of stages

[wooden blade]

i find it hard to believe, how

[pulsar cobalt]

mm yes putting revives on a centralising armour set is a good idea

[pseudo vector]

do you guys like my character name btw

long bill my goat

[mystic eagle]

long bill

[indigo fog]

My bill is longer

[mystic eagle]

Ha, I got no bills

[hushed hazel]

Yes

Up there with big hat Logan tbh

[wicked lotus]

The days when godslayer/silva/auric armor had revives 🥀

[wooden blade]

bill long

[dull heart]

That's not even the good tanky armor

[mystic eagle]

Silva Armor still has revives

[wicked lotus]

Oh right, it still exists (did not play mage/summoner yet)

[mystic eagle]

(with Silva Wings, but, you're basically always using those)

[pulsar cobalt]

yea!! theres something

better !!!

somehow

fucking fearmongerer just gives u a bajillion life regen

[dull heart]

Even without it it has revive

the wings just make it stronger

[mystic eagle]

I don't play Summoner sorry

Shoutouts to my testing world for looking like whatever the fuck happened here

[valid crypt]

:sob/

[grim cloud]

It looks like 3 parallel universes collided into 1 giant clusterfuck

[pseudo vector]

i just used luiafk for my testing world

i love decimating the world to build boss arenas

[fringe quiver]

yknow the thing that scares me the most isn't all the random boxes or platforms

[boreal edge]

I love testing worlds and having the entire underground just be Hardmode ores

[fringe quiver]

but the fact your desert and sunken sea spawned almost at the ocean, after the jungle

[pseudo vector]

not like i’m using the world for anything else really

my main world i actually put time into

i wish i could send an ss of my testing world but its on a dev build so i don’t want to accidentally leak anything lmao

i’ll send one of my personal playthrough one when i get the chance tho

[mystic eagle]

Also Hallow on the jungle side

[wooden blade]

"insert average exo mechs arena here"

[pseudo vector]

i don’t know if i’ll have long bill fighting the exos

[barren nacelle]

Looks wider than usual at the bottom of the spear. Is that the resprite posted into calart?

[dull heart]

no

I don't think so

[pseudo vector]

doze would it be worth fighting exos lol

[dull heart]

I like exos personally

[pseudo vector]

most of the others just tell me no usually LMAO

[mystic eagle]

yes

[pseudo vector]

i’d have to equip the necessary stuff

and stock away my current playtesting kit

[barren nacelle]

Oh it’s hitting something okay

Or firing something

[pseudo vector]

i don’t think my arena will need much of a retrofit to suit them tho, at least i hope not lol

[pulsar cobalt]

still kinda wild that ur making music for a boss u

never fought

lmao

[fringe quiver]

i mean

[pseudo vector]

i fought them and beat them like 3 years ago

[pulsar cobalt]

ah

[fringe quiver]

i'm one of the people making a game for a mod i never finished

one of the lead people at that

:p

[dull heart]

yeah most of the devs hate them with a passion

[pulsar cobalt]

well ur weird

[pseudo vector]

i didn’t playtest them at all back then either LMAO

[barren nacelle]

Cheese we need to do a calamity play through or something wdym you haven’t beaten it

[pulsar cobalt]

how about that

[fringe quiver]

ughhhh tsuki shut uppppppppppp

throws u in the eel pit

[pulsar cobalt]

nuh uh

throws U in the eel pit

[fringe quiver]

yuh huh

what the fu

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

exactly

[pseudo vector]

that was in my sort of “i don’t like actually playing terraria” phase

[fringe quiver]

i

have

[pseudo vector]

now i find it more enjoyable

[fringe quiver]

never gotten past

plaguebringer goliath

[pulsar cobalt]

cheese

[barren nacelle]

Cheese are you busy this afternoon / evening

[pulsar cobalt]

im forcing u to play through every mod ever

[fringe quiver]

i cant play calamity dawg ill die

[pseudo vector]

the only part of terraria i just outright dislike is early pre-hardmode

[fringe quiver]

death caused by 50000 boss fights and 0 actual content

specifically post golem i mean

before that its fine actually

i like pre hardmode calamity. that ones nice.

[barren nacelle]

I’ll carry you idfk hop in VC later and we’ll play calamity

This isn’t an offer or a request I’m going to whip you

[fringe quiver]

see just fight the bosses for me

ill like build a cool statue

[barren nacelle]

Okay that works

[lavish otter]

Love me a dusty and crusty Desert Scourge

[fringe quiver]

cucumber

dried cucumber scourge my bloeved

beloved

[pseudo vector]

i’ll probably just have sunny or smth tell me what weapons and accessories i’ll need to make exos a bit more tolerable cuz they’ve helped me with other bosses previously

[fringe quiver]

ok yk what

i feel challenged

[dull heart]

trust I got you

[fringe quiver]

im gonna beat that mf bee today

[lyric trellis]

Sponge 👍

[lavish otter]

Actually funny enough, I have a slight attachment to that DS sprite because I think it was the first thing I ever saw from Calamity, and at the time, I was like "Oh wow, that looks so cool!"

[pseudo vector]

as a mage btw

i’ve only ever fought the exos as a ranger

never as a mage

[hushed hazel]

spunch bop

[dense sundial]

if exos are getting the scorched earth treatment this is probably not worth doing anyway

[fringe quiver]

I honestly also have an attachment to that sprite for literally the same reaosn i think

And also just because i think it's funny looking

Idk it's just a cucumber

[lyric trellis]

Mage with it’s 2 accessories

[dense sundial]

imagine making music that fits Fabsolian Sludge and then the boss gets entirely done over

[lavish otter]

Also that, with stubby little leg/spines

The last variation to keep that ancient detail, I think

[pseudo vector]

considering how much most of the team dislikes exos i would not be surprised if exos is one of the first targets for reworks lol

[azure oak]

they deserve a rework

[pseudo vector]

i’ll need to refight them to see if their hatred is warranted

[fringe quiver]

I like cucumber scourge

[plush carbon]

fabsol would've never let Exos be reworked

[fringe quiver]

He may not really be a very interesting design or anything but i'm attached

[azure oak]

personally i dont actually mind their designs

[fringe quiver]

He's not that good but i like him

[plush carbon]

He defended this boss in particular to hell and back

[flat folio]

I need Artemis and Apollo to be made more active movement-wise..

[azure oak]

i just think more needs to be done with the bosses themselves

[raw falcon]

this

[fringe quiver]

The boss have actually good designs its just the fight that's bad, i think

[pseudo vector]

i would maybe fight WOTM exos but those mfs scare me

[fringe quiver]

Like the visual design is good

[raw falcon]

wasnt artermis lobotomized or sum

[fringe quiver]

it's the fight design that isnt

[lavish otter]

Saame, I think it's the sole reason I can understand why people like the old SCal sprites, even if I don't remotely agree

[pseudo vector]

wotm is terrifying to watch

[dense sundial]

to watch

[plush carbon]

Anytime someone brought up like fallgod or rungod against Exos Fabsol would get super pissy

[fringe quiver]

go my 🥒

[pseudo vector]

but it looks so fucking cool

[pulsar cobalt]

wtf they made the patreon tier above the patreon role

[raw falcon]

Real, the bosses themselves look cool, its just that the fight is painfully mediocre

[pulsar cobalt]

and gave it a gradient colour

[pseudo vector]

like i put my exos theme over it for fun one night and i was like “this actually works so well what”

[barren nacelle]

The fight is just flashy effects and projectile vomit

[azure oak]

a tag team fight against the magnum opera of the smartest man robot thing in the would should be sick as hell

[pulsar cobalt]

in the would

[raw falcon]

but its not

[lavish otter]

Oh yeah, that's what they look like on the server! Pretty cool that they got moved here too, though

[plush carbon]

The exos are supposed to have synergy with eachother
They just don't

He forgot to actually add that part

[flat folio]

The synergy is that they slow down a bit when together in terms of things like projectile shoot rates and speeds iirc

[raw falcon]

the exos just independently projectile vomit at you, its just that there so happens to be multiple on screen at once

[plush carbon]

How innovative

[lavish otter]

Though sadly...this means I can't make "I'm a dev, you can clearly see it from my username's color!" jokes anymore...

[pulsar cobalt]

just be auric tier

[azure oak]

magnet thanatos would be nice

[flat folio]

Magnetos

[lavish otter]

Auric is yellow and blue I think

[pseudo vector]

i wonder how the auric tier gradient looks yeah

probably looks dope

[vivid hemlock]

oh my god im purple now

[lavish otter]

Any auric tiers in the chat?

[pseudo vector]

i’m just orange

[raw falcon]

auric is just yellow

i checked

[fringe quiver]

I may get patreon

when

i'm not

broke

[azure oak]

white name 😔

[fringe quiver]

when i get a job. maybe.

[flat folio]

Bank robbery

[raw falcon]

Lets go rob a bank folks

[lavish otter]

Either way, it looks like this

[pseudo vector]

collective bank robbery

split the money

[raw falcon]

yes

[azure oak]

byeah first impressions are important but it's also nice when something ends on a high note

[wicked lotus]

That's basically calamity bosses for a long time no? Now it doesn't have to be the case anymore, exos with actual synergy attacks that don't have you fall through a world arena as the optimal strat would make a good fight

[vivid hemlock]

calamity devs should get like a blood red role to symbolize how theyre all evil

[dense sundial]

i certainly wouldn't call exos a good concept, but whatever artists handled them sure made a lot more out of them

[azure oak]

the concept of the fight itself is good

[dense sundial]

wdym

[wicked lotus]

Exos are a good design, is basically like an intended mecha mayhem. Only thing missing is actually balancing the fight and giving it the "intended"

[azure oak]

i mean the absolute basics

there's multiple mechs and they switch in and out through the fight

which could lead to a hectic but fun fight and fun combo attacks

the problem is that jack shit is done with the idea

[dense sundial]

ah yeah i suppose that checks

[azure oak]

they aren't "working together" they just so happen to be on the screen at the same time

[dense sundial]

for me it's just the fact they're vanilla boss again, especially releasing right after old duke of all bosses

[twin juniper]

Give ares melee attacks cause prime and tron got it

[wicked lotus]

Old duke needs to go. He's gotten too old

[vivid hemlock]

fish of theseus

[dense sundial]

exos but it's just ares and leans more into the samurai and gundam inspirations...

[flat folio]

I think it's a contrast of the mechanical versus the thematic/creative

There are gud mechanical ideas you can do with the robot synergy
But at the same time it is a bit uninspired for it to be mech bosses the sequel at the root, even if the artists did a gud job at going beyond that

[azure oak]

more could probably be done with "mech bosses pushed to their absolute limits" but they really are just mech bosses 2

[raw falcon]

yeah i know

[dense sundial]

enigmatic first-rate genius
talks to you and gets built up throughout the entire game
call him down to challenge his magnum opus
it's The Extra-Twins, The Extra-Destroyer, and Skeletron Extra-Prime

[wicked lotus]

In their current state, they might aswell just be the same mechanically as mecha mayhem. They are basically 3 individual bosses with their own mechanics mashed together into a mess rather than a cohesive unit

[azure oak]

no longer extraterrestrial since the rewrite

[hard hearth]

exo mechs should fr be a early post ml boss... uninspired ahh concept

[hard hearth]

and old duke should be deleted fr fr

[dense sundial]

he functionally is dead

[wicked lotus]

There is a good concept there about contacting draedon and fight his magnum opus, but I think exos should be earlier than this, and the magnum opus could be a different boss

[cunning sequoia]

👴 on 👴 violence

[dense sundial]

what if exos just Die

[plush carbon]

the Andromeda in the corner of the room:

[modern grove]

exos just should be cool ass robots that are not mechs 2

[dense sundial]

there's no reason to keep them if draedon has something better

[hard hearth]

id win

[modern grove]

you can do so much with cool robots! It's like one of the broadest creative fields ever! you dont need to return them to the boss concepts that we've seen in the game 2 times already basically

[hard hearth]

andromeda,,.,..,..,.,.

[lyric trellis]

Exos are a terrible concept literally based off a 10+ year old mod but the execution of their designs is so good that I think it’s fine (for Ares and Twins anyway)

[dull heart]

hypnos

[hard hearth]

idk if id call the execution 'so good'

[dense sundial]

second iteration of terraria boss immediately followed up by third iteration of terraria boss

[plush carbon]

andromeda will never be in a mod

rip

[dense sundial]

how to dig your own grave

[hard hearth]

to me it feels like a stretch

[modern grove]

the visual execution is good

its a good execution of a bad idea

[wicked lotus]

WotG doing us a service and giving us the first old duke fight for free so we don't have to fight a terrible boss 🙏

[modern grove]

but thats it the fight isnt good

[hard hearth]

the visual execution is random bullshit go (projectile spam)

[dense sundial]

the Graphical Fidelity™ is good

[dull heart]

Exos if they were good

[modern grove]

well i meant the

designs

of the mechs

[thick coyote]

^

[agile latch]

[dense sundial]

aye, it looks like discord reverted the trademark change

[hard hearth]

oh

[thick coyote]

oh shoot!

[agile latch]

Dont pull a cal clone

[thick coyote]

the patron gradients are here

[hard hearth]

thats easy to make good

spritework from good spriters can salvage even the most horrible of concepts

[agile latch]

Tbf as sad as it sounds, in the current cal economy old duke is one of the better bosses

[hard hearth]

it doesnt stop them from being a horrible concept though

[dull heart]

this is true

[modern grove]

yeah

[dawn ferry]

man what 😭

[plush carbon]

you gotta put some respect on Shinryu's name

[hard hearth]

jesus christ theres no way

refuse to believe that 😭

[agile latch]

Have you seen DoG before doze touched it up

🥹

[pulsar cobalt]

how could they

[agile latch]

I preffer to fight 10 old dukes than that

[hard hearth]

theres no way fab fucked up so many bosses from phm and hm

[agile latch]

I mean current harvest DoG

[plush carbon]

he did

[hard hearth]

to make it worse than old duke

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[dull heart]

old Duke fight is genuinely one of the best designed one in cal public atm

[dense sundial]

have you SEEN 2.0.4

[agile latch]

Because its built upon one of the best fights in vanilla

[modern grove]

darker than dark duker than duke

[hard hearth]

i started playing through it a bit ago yes

[dense sundial]

the boss design bar literally jumped into a volcano in one update

[dull heart]

fabsol is capable of ruining those with ease

[hard hearth]

master eoc is ☹️

[agile latch]

True

[lyric trellis]

I mean specifically the sprites themselves yeah obviously not the fights, the designs could’ve easily just been recolored mechs

[dense sundial]

master eye is nothing

[plush carbon]

a lot of things jumped into a volcano in bountiful harvest

[mystic eagle]

master is ☹️

[pulsar cobalt]

i thought that said boss bar and was confused for a sec lol

[azure oak]

simply replace ares' skull and have it lean more into the gundam inspiration

[plush carbon]

yet somehow SCal came out of it way better (because someone other than Fabsol was miraculously allowed to touch her)

[hard hearth]

but then again ive heard master ai is only on vanilla bosses

[agile latch]

That was only for brothers

Scal is still 80% fabsulian

[hard hearth]

so theres no way stuff like provi and pbg got ruined

[agile latch]

Well brothers and the moons

[pulsar cobalt]

theres two exceptions

[hard hearth]

right...

[dull heart]

PBG got ruined

Not in master

[hard hearth]

NOOOOOOOO

[hushed hazel]

pretty sure yes

[dull heart]

In general

[agile latch]

Doze

[plush carbon]

She still came out of it a better boss

[hard hearth]

😭

[agile latch]

Can you fix pbg sounds..

[dull heart]

probably

[thick coyote]

bountiful had revengeance/death changes for most bosses

not just master ones

[plush carbon]

SCal is like the one good thing that happened in Bountiful Harvest

[dull heart]

what is the issue

[agile latch]

Can you make them be actually fucking telegraphs

[dull heart]

oh

[agile latch]

And not just random sounds

[dull heart]

Yes

[hard hearth]

why would he touch pbg mannnnn

[mystic eagle]

Literally the previous update where fabsol severely changed AI (besides BH) had him create ACTUALLY good AI!?

And then came Bountiful Harvest

[dull heart]

fun fact

[hard hearth]

that boss is literally already perfected like 5 years agoooooo

[plush carbon]

Shitty shitty update

[agile latch]

perfected

[hard hearth]

[dull heart]

actually NVM I don't know if I wanna say that

[pulsar cobalt]

ah yes

"perfected"

all minions acting the same

[agile latch]

"Perfected"

[dense sundial]

plus ds, plus hive mind, minus moon lord

[thick coyote]

(queen bee but faster)

[hard hearth]

yeah pbg was one of the most fun bosses as voted by the community

[plush carbon]

"PBG" "Perfected"

[agile latch]

Hive mind was the biggest fabsol jand tho

[dull heart]

I should touch up PBG

[agile latch]

It went from one of the better boss fights to worse ones

[dull heart]

And just

[hard hearth]

facts speak louder than emotions

[wooden blade]

the dukness keeps arising
fish level negative
the next experiment will be very, very, fishroning

[dense sundial]

Skeletron AI Dark Heart

[hard hearth]

the people voted and pbg was like top 5 (i believe) in the fun factor

[vivid hemlock]

i HATE the dark hearts

[pulsar cobalt]

there is literally no difference between the rocket and the mine

[agile latch]

The community which most of the users have the standards of a brick (principally 5 years ago)

[pulsar cobalt]

its hilarious

[thick coyote]

this feels like a bit of a useless stat because its vieweing from only a cal boss perspective

[agile latch]

5 years ago the standards were very diferent..

[plush carbon]

jarvis send the screenshot of Fabsol saying "I like Ravager's fight rn" in reference to BH Ravager

[hard hearth]

perfect is a stretch but it was very good

[agile latch]

🥹

[wooden blade]

i still think it is, it's a perfect example of "taking a vanilla ai and making it better"

[dull heart]

It doesn't matter what their standards are when they're literally the ones who play it

a mod is nothing without a community

[agile latch]

Very good for its time

[dull heart]

I do agree standards have changed a lot

[agile latch]

[hushed hazel]

are you really surprised he was capable of making pbg bad

[agile latch]

Its not anymore

[hard hearth]

gameplay preferences dont change as much as spritework does

you're wrong

[agile latch]

They do

Even visually

(Vfx)

[hushed hazel]

remember that DoG came out at the very top of those polls

[plush carbon]

people thought DoG was absolute cinema 5 years ago

[hushed hazel]

and look at where he is now

[plush carbon]

Yeah

[hard hearth]

tbh yea true

he did ruin dog

[final pine]

get rid of the annoying ass minions and we have a decent boss

[agile latch]

He didnt ruin dog

[pulsar cobalt]

dog is like

[agile latch]

DoG is still the same jand as always

We just got better eyes

[final pine]

also yharon was near the top as well iirc

[dull heart]

PBG should have minions tbh

[pulsar cobalt]

modders first attempt at making a boss fight

[dull heart]

but like

[hard hearth]

nahhh

[agile latch]

I also used to like DoG

[dull heart]

They need to be godo

[agile latch]

🥹

[wooden blade]

only thing that made dog a great boss was its song ngl

[agile latch]

Like go fight the ancient DoG

[hard hearth]

sorry triangle but dog was peak in 2018

[pulsar cobalt]

multiply that by like three times and u have all of calamity

[agile latch]

And see if you like it nowadays

[final pine]

yeah current ones are just 'chase you and be bullet sponges'

[wooden blade]

now looking back, it's still another worm

[dull heart]

Redone DoG is my first actual attempt at a boss fight

[hard hearth]

i would

[dull heart]

so hh

[cunning sequoia]

i never got to experience actually good DoG

[dull heart]

Bad excuse

[cunning sequoia]

💔

[hard hearth]

[agile latch]

Im sorry ein user but i cant take your opnions seriouslly

[hard hearth]

and im certain most people would too

[agile latch]

Just play calamity classic if you like dust and vanilla ai copies

[thick coyote]

old dog was so simple though

[hard hearth]

i also cant take yours seriously man

[final pine]

basically a big 'fuck you' to any weapon that doesn't pierce

[agile latch]

[hard hearth]

you seem to think change in all aspects is good

[cunning sequoia]

ig it was good for 2018

[hard hearth]

because its change

[agile latch]

Good change and improvements

[wooden blade]

damn you seem to REALLY hate dog lmao

[agile latch]

Not just change for the sake of it

[hard hearth]

not good

just change

[agile latch]

You didnt had to experience

Current indev DoG

Anyway doze saved the boss

A lot better

[wicked lotus]

Wait, you mean scal could have potentially remained as twins v4?

[wooden blade]

oh yeah

[cunning sequoia]

astronomically common doze W

[final pine]

how spaghettified was the code

for doggo

[wooden blade]

it's this good?

[thick coyote]

i am tripping over doze Ws

[hard hearth]

i hope dog was saved

[wooden blade]

damn am more hyped now

[dull heart]

This was the worst fight I have EVER played in modded easily

[agile latch]

Well it is still current DoG

Fabsulian

[hard hearth]

its been so bad for so long

[agile latch]

But its a lot better now

[dull heart]

It sucks

[wooden blade]

oh

[hard hearth]

[lyric trellis]

DoG is still going to hell sorry

[agile latch]

Yea

[wooden blade]

from the doc it said that it was going to be more focused on close combat so idk if it's kept

[final pine]

still waiting for yharon's un-fishronification

[hard hearth]

im jealous if that was the worst for you

[agile latch]

That will take some time..

[lyric trellis]

True

[thick coyote]

what they are talking about isnt the full rework

[hard hearth]

you shouldve played some shitpacks back in the day

[agile latch]

Yharon do be in a better spot than DoG tho

Any boss is in a better spot

[dull heart]

you haven't played the indev dog version tbf

But yes

[wooden blade]

yeah, a part of it, but still

[hard hearth]

that would make you appreciate some of the good even more

[agile latch]

I did

[dull heart]

I missed a lot of the bad bad stuff

[agile latch]

Ancients awakened

[thick coyote]

not really

[lyric trellis]

Have to imagine at least half of the pre-2020 cal bosses were still worse than indev dog 💔

[final pine]

rust and dust did a bit but also the boss is kind of just repetitive fire spam ooo

[hard hearth]

aa wasnt bad enough to be considered for the shitpack

[thick coyote]

they're just touching up the curent fight its not the full rework

[wooden blade]

oh?

[hard hearth]

for comparison

[agile latch]

Calamity bosses are still stuck on the stuff ancients awakened had in 2020

[wooden blade]

ohh ok ok

[hard hearth]

tremor was the most polished mod

[wooden blade]

i get it then*

[dusk bronze]

hello calamitains

[hard hearth]

in the shitpack

[agile latch]

Preffer to fight shen doragon and equinox worms than DoG

[hard hearth]

[wooden blade]

hello xzier_tengal

[dull heart]

it is a pretty major touch up tbf

[pulsar cobalt]

im sorry but if youre calling THIS peak then u need some better fucking standards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx_GT8T16f8

[hard hearth]

i believe that yea

[final pine]

i'm going to fight the secret alphakip boss

[agile latch]

Einstandards

[glass path]

Is it bad based on boring or master skeletron prime level bad?

[cunning sequoia]

[hard hearth]

shen was made by terry

[dusk bronze]

oh the gradients are here too

nice

[hard hearth]

equinox idk

[dull heart]

Boring

[cunning sequoia]

she tre on my mor til i remastered

[flat folio]

It's... verbose

[agile latch]

Dog was boring and also it could just

Insta shot you out of nowhere

Its like boring and annoying

[hard hearth]

i have high standards wym

[final pine]

[wooden blade]

the fact that death master skeleprime is now used as a metric to how DOGSHIT a boss is will never not be funny

[agile latch]

And its not like deus which you can just ignore

[hard hearth]

see this i agree, thats stupid

[dull heart]

Rick roll spotted

[pulsar cobalt]

its not

[dull heart]

mhm

sure

[hard hearth]

esp cause it could kill through godmode cause fab had an aneurysm everytime someone did that

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[pulsar cobalt]

its an old nohit of dog from 1.3 calamity (this was 2018)

[plush carbon]

tsuki foiled again

[dense sundial]

STOP THE STRANGE WIGGLE BEHAVIOR WHEN WORMS ARE FALLING DOWN

DUDE

[dull heart]

no

[dense sundial]

dog still interacts with platforms i think

[dull heart]

yes

[agile latch]

He does..

[wooden blade]

again i still think the reason people loved dog before is because we had pretty low standarts, we didn't have mind blowing bosses like now

[agile latch]

I wish he wouldnt but its

[wooden blade]

(and its music being iconic now)

[agile latch]

Guy is a cosmic worm, why he is walking in platforms

[plush carbon]

Standards didn't exist back then

[lyric trellis]

Crawlipede

[plush carbon]

Period

[dull heart]

DoG has a flying and a digging AI

[hard hearth]

ehh we still dont rly have mind blowing bosses rn

lowkey

[thick coyote]

based on what ive seen from other creators i feel like calamity stil doesnt have mind blowing bosses

[agile latch]

Standards were very very diferent for presentation, visuals, functions

[plush carbon]

not in calamity

[agile latch]

Everything

[wicked lotus]

Gotta love how people in the comments were already calling out DoG being revamped every single update, 7 years ago

[hard hearth]

its a lot of visual spectacle

[dense sundial]

i'm assuming they didn't mean calamity

[agile latch]

It didnt change only for sprites like a certain user said

[thick coyote]

closest this mod comes to mind blowing boss is Scal brothers phase

[agile latch]

Like how shpc was seem as peak weapon back there

Or rust and dust intrisicate dust patterns being seen as cool

[mystic eagle]

Profaned Guardians aswell imo

[hard hearth]

gameplay wise most bosses are still very basic-ey in most mods

[thick coyote]

i feel like guardians are so boring though

[plush carbon]

mind blowing is a stretch for guardians

[dull heart]

the fact fabsol coded profaned Guardians and then

[thick coyote]

I dont remember anything about the guardians fight

they just die

[dull heart]

also coded dog and new PBG

is so weird

[final pine]

they're not supposed to be magnificent but they aren't bad by any means

[hard hearth]

people just learned to use flashy colors to hide it

[wooden blade]

yup, and that's a really big issue imo, fabshit was too focused on making bosses "not too complex or it'll be bad" that every boss in the mod feels like either a copy or straight up a dogshit boss

[plush carbon]

they're Good but not mind blowing

[hard hearth]

and wow the public

[final pine]

i quite liked guardians

[mystic eagle]

New guardians are actually good UNLIKE SOME BOSSES I KNOW

They're forgettable, sure

[lyric trellis]

Update name aged well

[wooden blade]

only exception being scal and and maybe providence (even her is a copy of ice queen)

[mystic eagle]

But atleast they're really well designed

[final pine]

i feel like providence is a bit spammy

[dense sundial]

💤

[plush carbon]

at least its not Bountiful Harvest

[dull heart]

I don't like guardian commander phase

[agile latch]

Because most mods didnt update

[dull heart]

otherwise guardians is good

[hard hearth]

update what

their gameplay?

[agile latch]

I mean getting updates

[hard hearth]

oh

[wooden blade]

well there's defo a step up in the way bosses are made in mods rn, like i remember a lot of people talking about starlight river (even though i think it was overrated but still)

[agile latch]

In general

[hard hearth]

ehh even new mods coming out

tbh

[agile latch]

Check the new mods that released nowadays or the ones that are still being updated

[dull heart]

I need to play SLE

SLR

[final pine]

providence imo is like 'big fire big magma ooo circles', there isn't really anything unique about it and the fact that it's one of the mod's best fights isn't a good sign

[agile latch]

Fargos, fables, wrath, spirit, MoR

[mystic eagle]

Tbf my least favorite part is the Defender part

[dense sundial]

basically all i think of guards is they're very boring and mildly janky

[mystic eagle]

It certainly has a low health bar for a defender

[hard hearth]

starlight river is the example that comes to mind for me yea

[agile latch]

Wouldnt call their bossfights simple by your standards at all

(Their new ones)

[lyric trellis]

I mean yeah R&D is still probably Cal’s overall best update for the time it was released

[hard hearth]

its a lot of visual spectacle

[lyric trellis]

Until sso happens

[dull heart]

I don't like Commander because he's so anti true melee it's sad

[plush carbon]

The thing with the Guardians fight is that they have no clue how to organise themselves

[agile latch]

Like which

[final pine]

scal is like completely anti tmelee

[agile latch]

If you are still using slr as a basis it means you are very outdated

[plush carbon]

Why is the Healer not being protected AT ALL while the Commander sits doing nothing

[dense sundial]

oh we have an explicitly pro-melee-design cal dev? goated?

[cunning sequoia]

this fucking sucks 🔥

[hard hearth]

ive played 3 of those from back in 2022

[wooden blade]

mixing visual spectacle with challenge, when done well, it can be really good

[hard hearth]

granted 3 years is a decent chunk

[agile latch]

Even polarities that came in 2021 had more complex stuff

[final pine]

fargo's is actually playable now

[wooden blade]

am thinking about lucille's exos for example

[pseudo vector]

which older version of dog was the super aggressive one

i forget

[dense sundial]

1.5.1

[final pine]

that's all i know

[agile latch]

In 2022

[hard hearth]

but ive seen javyz showcasing his bosses from fargos souls and dlc

[mystic eagle]

imo the Guardian Defender should have it's health increased by 30% and the Commander decreased by 30%

[agile latch]

[pulsar cobalt]

"sentinel phase is peak" mfs when it was literally run in a straight line and kill them in five seconds

[plush carbon]

Guardian Commander is straight up incompetent and its really funny

[pulsar cobalt]

😭

[agile latch]

These arent recent at all

🥹

[cunning sequoia]

LITERALLY NOTHING IS HAPPENING

[agile latch]

"The recent mods" 2022

[hard hearth]

what

[thick coyote]

[summer shore]

I can't lie even the dogshit bosses from cal I can still have fun with

[dull heart]

sentinel phase was peak

[wicked lotus]

Starlight river too, albeit still in alpha. Modern boss design is so much fun compared to projectile vomit

[hard hearth]

i said i played them back in 2022

[cunning sequoia]

the only time something actually fucking happens is laser walls and dog pulling out a flamethrower with no indication

[agile latch]

Yea

[hard hearth]

recent i was talking about slr

[plush carbon]

Doze can you please touch up Calamitas Clone next

[pulsar cobalt]

im pretty sure fargos didnt even have lifelight in 2022 which is when id say fargos got a bunch of good revamps

[wooden blade]

you have fun with ravager?

[agile latch]

Shadows of abbadon too

[hard hearth]

please check what i type 😭

[dense sundial]

honestly i played slr and didn't really care for it at all, with the exception of glassweaver

glassweaver is awesome

[summer shore]

Yes, believe it or not

[agile latch]

Is getting more economical stuff nowadays

I think from what i saw in previews

[summer shore]

I think people gatekeeping what's fun for other people is crazy

[agile latch]

[dull heart]

is glassweaver the demo boss

[pulsar cobalt]

ein maybe YOU should read wat triangle is saying

[dull heart]

Haven't played since the demo

[agile latch]

I can even use more unknown mods as example

[summer shore]

I can totally understand why ein finds them fun, because I do too sometimes

[wooden blade]

am not gatekeeping lmao i was just surprised

[agile latch]

That are real nowadays

[dense sundial]

i think the first release was ceiros...?

[dull heart]

Ah

ok

[agile latch]

I mean, its fine to find them fun

[wooden blade]

i respect it, i just don't like him

[dull heart]

That sounds right

[summer shore]

I love cal clone, rav, yharon,

[agile latch]

Just dont act like its perfect

[dense sundial]

glassweaver is the beetle dude who starts the fight with enemy waves

[summer shore]

aureus

[lyric trellis]

Can’t wait to use them in 20 years

[agile latch]

The ultimate high standards

[summer shore]

It isn't perfect yes

[agile latch]

And that other mods follow it too when they dont

(Nowadays)

[hard hearth]

i already said perfect was an exageration

[plush carbon]

Shadows of Abaddon

[dull heart]

I have literally seen 0 SLR since the original first demo release

[agile latch]

10 fargo years

[hard hearth]

idk

[wooden blade]

at this point no boss is perfect in any mod

[lavish otter]

I'm curious about something by the way, what were the changes that were made with indev DoG, anyways? Because I thought it was just DoG but without the lasers

[wooden blade]

now i wonder what a "perfect boss" would bee

[dull heart]

Yes

It was

Well

[agile latch]

Fables DS

[lavish otter]

I mean yeah, that sounds pretty shit, but not as bad as it's being described

[dull heart]

actually no, laser walls were less common too

[agile latch]

Jk, nothing is perfect..

[summer shore]

There is no perfect boss everything subjective

[agile latch]

But fables DS is really really great

[hard hearth]

i feel like when i play any content mod the boss fights themselves dont really offer anything mindblowing in terms of what to do to beat them

[summer shore]

The curse

[agile latch]

[cunning sequoia]

you get it...

[hard hearth]

its all just oh this is more pretty than the last

[dull heart]

it literally did not interact with you at all

[summer shore]

away garbo

[cunning sequoia]

you see the vision...

[dull heart]

for like

[summer shore]

I get all of 8t

[dull heart]

90% of the fight

[wooden blade]

didn't try it yet, might check it out but from what i've heard, yeah it's a really good rework

same for crabulon apparently

[lavish otter]

Ahhh, that makes sense

[summer shore]

I don't see how people can hate cal clone in its current form I think she's very fun

[pseudo vector]

wait what are we talking about now

i'm confused

[wooden blade]

bosses

[agile latch]

Sir nautilus is p great too

[hard hearth]

boss designs

mainly

[final pine]

when will aureus not be a and d key simulator 2k19

[cunning sequoia]

i want to like calclone but it always feels more like im fighting twins again than a new boss

its like

[summer shore]

It never felt that way for me

[cunning sequoia]

especially apparent with her

[lavish otter]

You'll never guess

[plush carbon]

cal clone is really unloved

[cunning sequoia]

because twins are actually fun

[summer shore]

But also I'm weird so

[cunning sequoia]

and so calclone is also fun

[final pine]

i do like calclone even if i don't really like mandatory invincibility phases

[cunning sequoia]

but for the wrong reasons

[flat folio]

Designing bosses blackens the heart and withers the soul, I'm afraid

[agile latch]

True

[dull heart]

My issue with clone is

[hard hearth]

i also dont think i fought twins when fighting clone

[wooden blade]

basically every current fables mod is really good, impatient on what they'll do in the future (i really need that iban's DOG you have no idea)

[cunning sequoia]

unlike smth like ravager which i dislike for reasons unrelated to it being a copy of golem

[pseudo vector]

clonelamitas was pretty cool last time i fought her, i did beat her first try if i remember correctly

[dull heart]

Her non BH attacks are such a nothingburger

[agile latch]

Its literally the triplets currently yea

[hard hearth]

maybe back when she summoned 4 brothers

[lavish otter]

Also honestly, I've never particularly "had fun" with CalClone because when I fight her, she isn't onscreen 80% of the time

[hard hearth]

that was abhorrent

eugh

[agile latch]

I think next fable boss is either a draedon thing or slime god?

[wooden blade]

that's smth you can say for a lot of the bosses in the mod rn

[agile latch]

Let me check the roadmap

[cunning sequoia]

i want calclone to be better more than basically every other boss

[final pine]

ravager has a very long list of reasons to dislike it

[plush carbon]

I hate CalClone's fight so much its SO outdated

[lyric trellis]

At least it’s not Fovenator

[summer shore]

Next fables boss is leviathan

[vivid hemlock]

isnt it leviathan

[flat folio]

The Moon Lord fight with nine true eyes of cthulhu...

[wooden blade]

i think it's a draedon machine yeah

[summer shore]

No

[final pine]

most cal bosses are outdated

[summer shore]

It's leviathan

[hard hearth]

☹️

[agile latch]

Its leviathan yea

I forgo..

[vivid hemlock]

primeval nucleus is after levi in fables i think

[wooden blade]

oh alright

[agile latch]

Its coming in sunken sea update

[summer shore]

Draedon update is later oj

On

[plush carbon]

Not to CalClone's extent though

[dense sundial]

if nautie isn't your goat you're WRONG

[agile latch]

Fables leviathan design is really great

[dense sundial]

sorry to say

[hard hearth]

just adren+Omniblade skip that shit

[dull heart]

peak, WotG should hire you for boss design

[wooden blade]

wait i didn't see levi's fables design

lemme check

[final pine]

where is the original boss design gif

[agile latch]

My nautilus experience was multiplayer on release..

[flat folio]

I didn't do that, Fabsol did

[dense sundial]

ah

[flat folio]

Maybe he should be hired

[pulsar cobalt]

he isnt my goat never will be (because i cant call it good without experiencing it myself)

[lavish otter]

Well thank god it's not as bad as || ||

[agile latch]

He was tweaking out and disapearing with my ui

He is peak tho

[summer shore]

Not public afaik

[dense sundial]

go experience it yourself then

[agile latch]

All 3 are peak

[vivid hemlock]

fables levi isnt public im afraid

[pulsar cobalt]

no

ill wait for more content to come out

[pseudo vector]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[fringe quiver]

fables leviathan design is awesome

[wooden blade]

yeah it looks really cool

[agile latch]

Not public

[fringe quiver]

its peak im afraid

[agile latch]

How do you know..

[vivid hemlock]

its so peak

[agile latch]

The ones who know

[cunning sequoia]

mm i gotta play fables finally

[summer shore]

Pay him with patreon money 🔥

[hushed hazel]

yea i want to try fables at one point but i'd rather there be more substance to it first

[pulsar cobalt]

mod that only has early pre hm content numero

uhh

i forgot

[final pine]

those who know 😰

[pulsar cobalt]

at least two

[wooden blade]

wait it's not the icon in the roadmap???

[fringe quiver]

those who snow

[flat folio]

The complex web of those who know but shouldn't

[wooden blade]

i thought it was leviathan lmao

[hard hearth]

i echo this sentiment yea

[vivid hemlock]

❄️

[dense sundial]

i used it as an excuse to play multiple other still-small mods, like slr, reforged, and wayfair

[fringe quiver]

why r a bunc h of patreonsc cosmilite now

[agile latch]

I know of it due to being friends with cubanplay

[dense sundial]

maybe throw ebonian on the pile

[fringe quiver]

vanillin why are you purple

[pseudo vector]

there is so much "those who know" its painful

[agile latch]

Was it posted publically somewhere

[fringe quiver]

nah it wasnt

[final pine]

i'll play fables when there's a decent bit of content for it up to ml