for lack of a better word...
#calamity-update-talk
fringe quiver
ai generated
lyric trellis
True but I think deus is easily one of the best bosses in basecal for it since it can also go pretty fast but isn't completely awful and big like dest
dense sundial
mans redefined the word hypocrite every day
fringe quiver
aw man i was really hoping you'd say ai generated that would've been a good punchline
lyric trellis
Also 2 worms makes it more engaging since you have to look out for 2 idk
still bluff
fringe quiver
you had the perfect setup too
mystic eagle
The Exo Mechs attacks are AI generated. The AI of the mechs cause them to initiate the attacks
still bluff
wait true
fringe quiver
das tru
still bluff
every boss is ai generated
lyric trellis
That's cal using ai
hasty tangle
calamity uses AI to control boss behavior 😱
pulsar cobalt
exo mechs are ai generated because they are an ai
slate folio
what happened
mystic eagle
Exo_Mech.ai
hasty tangle
no
mystic eagle
What AI do Profaned Guardians use
Can someone answer this?
hasty tangle
its a joke because all enemies in the game use AI to determine how they behave
pulsar cobalt
fabsol used AI to code cal bosses?
every modder ever uses ai for their bosses and enemies
😱
hasty tangle
most people are
arctic cliff
because i genuinely do not trust him with new dog
mystic eagle
Same
hasty tangle
i didnt trust him with a lot of stuff honestly
dense sundial
What AI do Profaned Guardians use
i think they're now unique (at least i don't recognize their movement, anyway), but their dash is a close derivative of corite
hasty tangle
especially with how bad current MD is
fringe quiver
the horse
dense sundial
i know for a fact he would've absolutely fumbled giant dog
fabsol would have MURDERED mango's ravager
fringe quiver
it has been beaten..
hasty tangle
it eroded any trust i had left in fab's boss design compentency 
mystic eagle
i think they're now unique (at least i don't recognize their movement, anyway), ...
Alright so we got 3 wholly unique bosses
fringe quiver
i wholeheartedly believe it would've used deerclops ai
dense sundial
Alright so we got 3 wholly unique bosses
which ones
lyric trellis
Just like yharim
mystic eagle
Guards, CV and Exos*
hasty tangle
but exos are just clones of mechs!!!!!!!!
lyric trellis
Thanatos with Destroyer ai when
hasty tangle
every single line of ai code that fab has ever wrote ended with a semicolon
every single line of vanilla code ended in a semicolon
coincidence?
lyric trellis
Onto something
mystic eagle
Totally style points;
dense sundial
but exos are just clones of mechs!!!!!!!!
i love entangling arguments i love not being able to make a point
still bluff
Can someone answer this?
it's in the code it's allll ai
hasty tangle
i love entangling arguments i love not being able to make a point
i do find it funny when people actually try to argue that exos are mech clones
admittedly its not a super common argument
dense sundial
they are literally the mechs but again in terms of the concept
twin juniper
i wholeheartedly believe it would've used deerclops ai
And polter is just prime ai
dense sundial
i think the artists for them did all they could to make them less of that
hasty tangle
they share a base concept and thats about it
dense sundial
but their ai is technically unique yeah
mystic eagle
it's in the code it's allll ai
Ah so it's actually unique ai
We got a unique AI trinity+0.5
tropic jolt
one day every boss will have unique ai!
hasty tangle
still? that was a plan at one point?
buoyant pulsar
me when i make the handle of every single sword tiny and stupid and thin
pulsar cobalt
Are Yharim's attacks still going to be largely based off his YOMI ones
yeah hes totally gonna pull out yharims crystal and fucking blast it at you
mystic eagle
still? that was a plan at one point?
I heard rumors about it, not sure if it was from the devs though
tropic jolt
with yharim being so far away anything can change
mystic eagle
True
lean cave
yharim could possibly is some universe be a worm boss 
tropic jolt
I wonder if he will have attacks inspired by senator armstrong
mystic eagle
Yharim Worm
tropic jolt
yharim could possibly is some universe be a worm boss <:clueless:100742447995107...
in this universe
every boss will soon be a worm boss (with unique ai)
arctic cliff
yeah hes totally gonna pull out yharims crystal and fucking blast it at you
I hope he does.
dry whale
yharim could possibly is some universe be a worm boss <:clueless:100742447995107...
stip lied to us, yhorm is real
lean cave
in this universe
so fuckin true!
dense sundial
personally i hope yharim does not have dragonfolly attacks or the last prism
mystic eagle
If there's infinite universes, there's infinite Yharim Worms
lyric trellis
I wonder if he will have attacks inspired by senator armstrong
"Inspired by armstrong and minos prime" was funny
Like yeah sure man
lean cave
inspired by fighter ai
dense sundial
i doubt it would stop at inspired
tropic jolt
"Inspired by armstrong and minos prime" was funny
well there certainly is a lot of metal gear rising references in this mod
pulsar cobalt
like it would be such a butchering of their concepts u wouldnt even be able to tell
tropic jolt
I don't see why yharim can't have nanomachines that harden in response to physical trauma
dense sundial
not just references, a good chunk of them are literally thing from metal gear rising
lyric trellis
Wow this Murasama weapon sure is neat
dense sundial
i say a good chunk but i can only think of murasama
tropic jolt
not just references, a good chunk of them are literally thing from metal gear ri...
the boss health bar
pulsar cobalt
boss bar
lean cave
damn it
mystic eagle
Yharim tears the Dragon Aerie apart and starts throwing the ground at you while yelling: THY END IS NOW!
pulsar cobalt
rippers are references to ripper mode from mgrr
dawn ferry
is ts peak writing
lyric trellis
That too
agile latch
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
tropic jolt
Yharim tears the Dragon Aerie apart and starts throwing the ground at you while ...
and then we will have to do a very awkard cutting minigame with our keyboard
dense sundial
today i previewed a youtube video and found out the new murasama sounds... are from metal gear rising
agile latch
tweaked their colors a bit more
lyric trellis
Pretty colors
lean cave
so bright and joyous
mystic eagle
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
I love Frogfish
tropic jolt
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
cute
dense sundial
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
wait its goated?
unkempt fractal
Someone has some clue of when the reworked murasama comes?
vivid hemlock
no
lyric trellis
In 5 years
tropic jolt
Someone has some clue of when the reworked murasama comes?
probably not for a long time
dense sundial
this reminds me
unkempt fractal
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
So cute
lean cave
30
pulsar cobalt
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
will there be a golden variants or will it just stop at coral colours
dawn ferry
they think the world full of sunshine and rainbows
dense sundial
can murasama get ship of theseus'd into not being straight up the mgr murasama
i honestly would not mind its rework plans at all if it simply wasn't a game rip
arctic cliff
today i previewed a youtube video and found out the new murasama sounds... are f...
I think this was a recent change, interestingly enough
pulsar cobalt
can murasama get ship of theseus'd into not being straight up the mgr murasama
it could
unkempt fractal
probably not for a long time
Well, i'm anxiously waiting
pulsar cobalt
all the rework plans are just original ideas iirc
arctic cliff
Honestly?
tropic jolt
can murasama get ship of theseus'd into not being straight up the mgr murasama
it would be nice to have it stand out more but hasn't a ton of work already been put into its reworked sprite
dense sundial
i saw the plans and thought "why are we putting all this effort into a rip instead of, i don't know, original content"
arctic cliff
We need to de murasama-ify the murasama
mystic eagle
Yharim tears the Dragon Aerie apart and starts throwing the ground at you while ...
Then if you happen to be using a sword, he starts phase 2 by saying: "Your blade, it did not cut deep enough" and he summons a mysterious vortex causing his armor to be equipped
dense sundial
it would be nice to have it stand out more but hasn't a ton of work already been...
so had a ton of work been put into miracle matter, and look where that went
pulsar cobalt
it would be nice to have it stand out more but hasn't a ton of work already been...
it can still be an energy blade just not a specifically red katana
agile latch
i honestly would not mind its rework plans at all if it simply wasn't a game rip
they aren't tho
i think dia never played metal gear
lyric trellis
Then if you happen to be using a sword, he starts phase 2 by saying: "Your blade...
2017 scal dialogue
agile latch
only the design and name still is tho.. society but you have all the 50 skins to choose
pulsar cobalt
they aren't tho
they meant the item itself being a rip
rose laurel
I think the Murasama staying as what it is is fine, really
dense sundial
ok sorry i meant the name and design being a game rip
pulsar cobalt
the 10 thousand skins
unless the default changes the criticism is still valid
agile latch
that is literally vanilla muramasa
pulsar cobalt
wrong one
rose laurel
Or you can use mine which is ONE PIECE!!!!!!
lean cave
muramasa mk2
dense sundial
crabbar murasama
lean cave
fuck
tropic jolt
Or you can use mine which is ONE PIECE!!!!!!
is it real
rose laurel
Yes
agile latch
unless the default changes the criticism is still valid
its valid but not something that matters
since there is ways to get diferent looks for it that arent the mgr neither based on games
and its functions arent based on the metal gear one
lean cave
so wait how will we change the color/dev on the murasama?
trail oriole
no you are suposed to obey me
the 5 coral collored frog fishes
he will be killed for just making the variants color changes
agile latch
i think on the ui?
pulsar cobalt
so wait how will we change the color/dev on the murasama?
with the modification table iirc
agile latch
he will be killed for just making the variants color changes
still wip
want to make one be the hairy frog..
agile latch
dense sundial
modification table?
pulsar cobalt
will there be a golden variants or will it just stop at coral colours
_ _
agile latch
pulsar cobalt
modification table?
yea its how murasama will be upgraded
rose laurel
There's something to be said about the fact that Murasama is a pillar of Calamity's identity, but at the end of the day I think that it's fine to leave it there as the one homage to our roots
agile latch
want to make one be the hairy frog..
only issue will be animating them all, but it will be fine
small guys
dense sundial
there's a "crafting" station for one weapon? am i getting this straight
agile latch
upgrade station but yea
pulsar cobalt
i think so
dense sundial
it's really not a big deal it just sounds somewhat odd
pulsar cobalt
it might get other uses
dull heart
yeah I think so too
arctic cliff
Why not just make murasamas for all classes
dull heart
no
rose laurel
no
dense sundial
could do all arsenal shenanigans at the mod table
arctic cliff
mystic eagle
Murangerasama
agile latch
Why not just make murasamas for all classes
no..
pulsar cobalt
Why not just make murasamas for all classes
WELCOME BACK THE STARS ABOVE
lyric trellis
Zenith for all classes
dull heart
Murasama gun
mystic eagle
Zenith Throne
dull heart
murasama toilet
mystic eagle
Ah yes the Throne class
pulsar cobalt
WELCOME BACK THE STARS ABOVE
WEAPON BUT U CAN ALSO CHANGE IT TO ANY OTHER CLASS
dense sundial
if terra set happens again i'll send so many cassowaries that i have to buy spares
granite smelt
dont worry, my cassowaries hit squad is prepared
dense sundial
borb my goat
rose laurel
Class identity is a myth. Usestyle1 is a joke. We're all pawns, controlled by something greater
Zenith Weapons Mod. The DNA of modding
rose laurel
[Insert quote]
lyric trellis
if terra set happens again i'll send so many cassowaries that i have to buy spar...
Traveling back to 2016
tropic jolt
zenith whip
arctic cliff
if terra set happens again i'll send so many cassowaries that i have to buy spar...
I much prefer the Kiwi Paratrooper Squad. The fuck are the Cassowaries gonna do, punt all the Kiwis?
Especially all 999999999999999999999 of them?
pulsar cobalt
Why don't you back it up with a source!
I MADE IT THE FUCK UP
iron dew
going back in time to the first 1.2 to get terra weapons off the menu
cobalt wharf
if calamity mod was made today you would have a zenith set where all the projectiles spam trail effects
elemental lance would work the same way it does now except it’s projectiles look like every vanilla spear in the game
lyric trellis
Calamity if it was peak
fringe quiver
<:itsover:1208257894919835748> only issue will be animating them all, but it wil...
do you anime triangle....
i forgor
animate*
"do you anime triangle" destroying the earth
ending it all
tropic jolt
📐
brave star
Does triangle anime tho
agile latch
animate*
sorta
i can do some small stuff passably..
but i wouldnt cal myself a animator
i dont do much of them
need to practice them more
fringe quiver
fair
it'd probably be easier to animate the others once you get one done since its just sorta copying the same thing 4 times
i think there should be a frogfish variant based of the warty frogfish bc theyre pretty but also the mines 💥 the horrors
brave star
i think there should be a frogfish variant based of the warty frogfish bc theyre...
Dat goober tho 😳
agile latch
i think there should be a frogfish variant based of the warty frogfish bc theyre...
this guy was on my ref sheet
and i based the body type of the base guy on them
brave star
What’s Calamity’s server tag gonna be btw
dawn ferry
clam
brave star
Can’t wait for a calamitous server tag
dusty tinsel
It should just be DUMB
agile latch
agile latch
i think there should be a frogfish variant based of the warty frogfish bc theyre...
i still find funny how
even though cal has a abyss we dont have a angler fish..
i guess the closest to one is the frog fishes
lapis oak
fesh
dull heart
ok i think i'm done cooking for the day
grave geyser
abyss mimic
lyric trellis
Anglerfish gets to be one of the worst designed armors 💔
fathom girder
for now
dull heart
no u
grave geyser
armor design tier list
fathom girder
S tier pearlwood armor set
dull heart
tier list based on the amount of unique colors on an armor set
fathom girder
shadowspec is F tier
grave geyser
what counts as a unique color
fathom girder
like, black or red
dull heart
if it has a different RGB value
grave geyser
oh god
fathom girder
oh bruh but what about shading
dull heart
mhm
grave geyser
victide solid a tier
fathom girder
palettes can have like four colors and then 20 shades total
5 for each color or some shit
nightmarish tier list
dull heart
peak tier list
fathom girder
gems are a projectile I wouldn't count em
lyric trellis
armor design tier list
I meant in terms of the set but the sprite itself isn't the best either ig
dull heart
the armor itself
dull heart
I meant in terms of the set but the sprite itself isn't the best either ig
counterpoint
silly tongue
dull heart
yes you are
fathom girder
Okay this is when triangle comes in and points out that one of the simpler armors has roughly 80 different shades for zero reason
fringe quiver
even though cal has a abyss we dont have a angler fish..
cant wait for abyss to have actually interesting enemies
waiter.... 200 more real life fish with uninteresting behavior
dull heart
lyric trellis
silly tongue
I didn't even know it had that what the hell
dull heart
fake calamity fan
lyric trellis
Thankfully fake
lyric trellis
fake calamity fan
It's so over.........
dull heart
I'm so close to being done with the new alcohol effects...
but the last few are eeghhg
fringe quiver
nmake a new alcohol effect that grants you 200% damage but to compensate if you die while the buff is active you die of alcohol poisoning
||in real life||
lyric trellis
@urban cloak One day you will face judgement for your sins and pay the price
urban cloak
thats not something an armor set would say now is it
thick coyote
I'm so close to being done with the new alcohol effects...
ok so new alchohols is what you were cooking then based on phrasing
dull heart
Uh
dull heart
but lemme brew
A
grave geyser
sure we go with it
lyric trellis
thats not something an armor set would say now is it
How would you know
urban cloak
How would you know
you're a suit of armor you shouldn't be talking in the first place smh
thick coyote
wait you arent in it?
urban cloak
lyric trellis
you're a suit of armor you shouldn't be talking in the first place smh
Who's the one that tells you the set bonuses and effects of an armor set then
urban cloak
thats me the knowledge gets magically transferred to my head once i wear the full thing
you should know this...
pulsar cobalt
my hitlist is down to ale, cinnamon roll, and margarita I think
ale?
lyric trellis
I don't think it works that way, I would know
lapis oak
Armor Set in chat??? guh
dull heart
ale is an alcohol
lyric trellis
Armor Set in chat??? guh
AMA
grave geyser
surprised ale is still on the hitlist tbh, would've thought it would've been one of the first
pulsar cobalt
i just thought it wouldnt have been touched
thick coyote
mightve had to push through some "but its vanilla" resistance
thick coyote
I didn't know it had melee speed
dull heart
surprised ale is still on the hitlist tbh, would've thought it would've been one...
I haven't had a good idea still
thick coyote
in vanilla lole
lyric trellis
why dont u use the better spelling of armour
The British aren't real
pulsar cobalt
I haven't had a good idea still
since the effect is called tipsy maybe it can do smthn with movement
dull heart
it'll be melee still
pulsar cobalt
kinda like the odd mushroom but for controls
arctic cliff
I think Ale should receive the least amount of changes given that it's
VANILLA
oh wait i got a glorious
idea
dull heart
kinda like the odd mushroom but for controls
You move in 7 directions at the same time
arctic cliff
ale gets reworked, but you can craft a new alcohol called "Vanilla Ale" that just acts like the original Ale
dull heart
I think I might make ale make melee size larger but reduce melee speed
arctic cliff
thick coyote
btw is alcohol poisoning staying, i dont really get why thats a thing if the alcohols are being made more wacky
thick coyote
ic
dull heart
You can get some insane combos atm
White Wine + Red Wine + Caribbean Rum is one of my favorites
thick coyote
combining the first two sounds like an assault on my taste buds
grave geyser
red wine getting to be more than just a supreme healing potion in early hm
no
way
arctic cliff
combining the first two sounds like an assault on my taste buds
How would you know that?
🤨
thick coyote
because ive tasted white and red wine and they're like opposites
im 26 ive drank
let a girl have her wine
pulsar cobalt
god forbid women get drunk
grave geyser
nope sorry this is that one era where alchahol is banned
dull heart
yup
arctic cliff
Go find Al Capone to get yer booze
pulsar cobalt
alchahol
dull heart
combining the first two sounds like an assault on my taste buds
it is also an assault on your flight time
lyric trellis
You're only allowed to drink alcohol in Calamity now
dull heart
Hope you like having only 37.5% of your regular flight time
pulsar cobalt
Hope you like having only 37.5% of your regular flight time
me with gravity globe:
lean cave
ravager potion
thick coyote
didnt need it anyways I'm a bobbit hook gamer
grave geyser
White Wine + Red Wine + Caribbean Rum is one of my favorites
this does sound quite funny
dull heart
It's very funny
brave star
I have finally joined the Patreon server woo
Wulfrum patreon
grave geyser
Hope you like having only 37.5% of your regular flight time
is this even that big a problem
dull heart
it's very noticable
dull heart
no u
dull heart
no u
pulsar cobalt
wow ! im a cal dev now !!
thick coyote
quick, revert dog to laser walls instead of a grid
pulsar cobalt
quick, revert dog to laser walls instead of a grid
nah
lapis oak
it's very noticable
turning Wings of Rebirth into Elysian Tracers but bad 😋
pulsar cobalt
ill remove ALL his lasers
dense sundial
I think I might make ale make melee size larger but reduce melee speed
HEAVY MELEE 🙏 🙏
dull heart
quick, revert dog to laser walls instead of a grid
ok, now it is four solid walls crushing you
pulsar cobalt
four ravager walls?
dense sundial
but how does this work with anything that's not a vanilla usestyle
lyric trellis
Combining Ale + Moscow Mule
dense sundial
are there cal weapon reworks compatible with melee speed and size?
pulsar cobalt
but how does this work with anything that's not a vanilla usestyle
i mean doesnt fargos have a way to make most projectiles larger
as for speed it depends
dull heart
but how does this work with anything that's not a vanilla usestyle
All of my custom swings work with melee size and speed unless I specifically blacklist them
or anyone else who uses my base projectile
dense sundial
goated
are you basing alcohol effects on any source in particular? or just kinda winging them
like what the alcohols do irl, something related to their ingredients or original effect, etc.
brave star
wow ! im a cal dev now !!
Tsuki the dev princess real
fathom girder
given the grape related alcohol affects uh
bullets
and makes em home
I think he's just giving effects that match the vibe
kinda like in bloons where grapes are piercing projectiles for some reason
like sure why not
dry whale
wow ! im a cal dev now !!
QUICK! make provi yuri actually canonical
brave star
YOUR TAKING TOO LONG
YOUR LONG
fringe quiver
i am now calamity developer 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 -added young duke 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽
white aurora
dry whale
i am now calamity developer 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 -added young duke 👽 👽 👽...
teen duke when
emo duke
brave star
Too too plumg when
hasty hawk
i am now calamity developer 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 👽 -added young duke 👽 👽 👽...
removed Young Duke due to PissAndShit plagiarism
(that mod was… something)
dull heart
are you basing alcohol effects on any source in particular? or just kinda wingin...
just things that sound interesting, have specific up and downsides so they're not generally applicable but have a niche
is the primary thing
Old Fashioned is the prime example of this
one of two alcohol I didn't touch, along with everclear
Grape Beer, for example, gives some bullets / arrows / darts homing (limited effect on shotguns)
But reduces crit chance
it's useful for people who have bad aim, but bad for anyone else
terse dew
How does alcohol give you the power to home-in on enemies
glass plank
@theorios @ashumionline
misty wren
How does alcohol give you the power to home-in on enemies
same way it makes elementals summoned by chunks of their corpses you have taped to your belt deal more damage
dull heart
How does alcohol give you the power to home-in on enemies
Drunk person magic
dawn ferry
the enemies feel so bad for you they just take the hit out of kindness
flat folio
How does alcohol give you the power to home-in on enemies
Have you tried loosely shooting at someone while under the influence of a specific type of beer to see if the bullets home in slightly?
I didn't think so...
rich ginkgo
random picture of yhon in game files that crashes game when deleted
orchid finch
true
stuck kite
Have *you* tried loosely shooting at someone while under the influence of a spec...
this for whatever reason sounds like your typical unhinged american on the news
brave star
I never did beverages/alcohol in calamity and irl
fringe quiver
hey i was looking in the calamity wiki for removed content due to boredom aND
What? Lmao?
How do you. "Make a better version" of something. that you've only seen a teaser of. huh
bronze raven
who knows
lapis oak
probably mean upgrade for Super Star Shooter?
lyric trellis
Unserious weapon
fringe quiver
no wonder this thing got removed.... 🫗
lyric trellis
Item added in 2018 for a weapon that didn’t come out until 2020 and then 2022 for tmod
rose laurel
No I'm pretty sure it's directly just
stuck kite
gotta be one of the best pieces of trivia
rose laurel
"Vanilla made that weapon. We made it better"
lyric trellis
Takes a look at the mage weapons in the corner
fringe quiver
can any developers from the olden dark ages say if this was fabsol's dumb idea or someone else's dumb idea
or maybe don't
probably better if you don't?
yeah. yeah don't
stuck kite
2018 is too old
rose laurel
I gotta be real but that just feels entirely in line with something Fab would do
lapis oak
needs a fossil to explain this one
fringe quiver
LIKE OKAY IM NOT POINTING FINGERS. IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING. BUT LIKEEEE
lyric trellis
Mysterious 2018 dev who hated that super star shooter wasn't good enough
stuck kite
i put it on the chopping block
summer shore
I think this is prime yuh consultation hours
lapis oak
Mysterious 2018 dev who hated that super star shooter wasn't good enough
it was your idea all along
lyric trellis
More interesting trivia than half the removed weapons being "somebody on the forums suggested this"
fringe quiver
Mysterious 2018 dev who hated that super star shooter wasn't good enough
Mysterious 2018 dev who hated that super star shooter wasn't good enough*
-# *While not actually knowing what it does and only having seen a GIF teaser of it because it was not ingame
lyric trellis
it was your idea all along
I went back in time and implanted the idea into somebody's brain so that I could use it for PBG in 2022 because cit told me to 
stuck kite
its so easy to get your own weapon in calamity just go back to 2016 and dump your shit in forums
rose laurel
GSS somehow staying on the Mod is insane btw
summer shore
only 3
rose laurel
Three?
summer shore
more fith
stuck kite
somehow thought there were more
fringe quiver
mauler, great sand shark, reaper
lyric trellis
Fusion feeder
fringe quiver
calamity mod has 5 of them.
boreal edge
You forgot a shark
fringe quiver
wait thats true yeah
stuck kite
fusion feeder
fringe quiver
fusion fe- NO
summer shore
cit is the 6th shark
stuck kite
You forgot a shark
this guy.
summer shore
7th is megalodon
rose laurel
I mean at least they're like, conceptually distinct y'know?
boreal edge
🐟
lyric trellis
Iconic Cal enemy, fusion feeder
lapis oak
mish
fringe quiver
do'nt get me wrong i'm not complaining i just think its funny to say collect my sharks
i like sharks
boreal edge
Fiber Optic Friday
lyric trellis
Just like the iconic astral vulture and bat ai thing
boreal edge
He fires meteors, sorry he has to stay
modern grove
Leviathan junior
fringe quiver
mauler, reaper shark, great sand shark
three shark minibosses............
thats crazy
boreal edge
Shark sweep
fringe quiver
theres pulse raptor and the shark frog guy
stuck kite
the fusion feeder meteor might be the rarest seen images within the mod
rose laurel
Tbf Reaper Shark shouldn't be a Miniboss 😭
lapis oak
this is biased
rose laurel
That's something I'd like to cover when we go around the Abyss, like
fringe quiver
tough regular enemies
stuck kite
hasnt been
stuck kite
for a while
rose laurel
Yes but also not like Paladins
lyric trellis
Abyss miniboss theme playing 24/7
rose laurel
They'll have more than
stuck kite
youre out of the loop
fringe quiver
i mean yeah fair but thats also because
gonna be
100% honest and real and true here chief
vanilla terraria enemy design is kinda ass
lyric trellis
Shark arms copypasta
rose laurel
I wouldn't say it's ass it's just deceptively simple
stuck kite
dwayne the reaper
rose laurel
Like
Until you get to Post Plant
I think it's fine
Then it takes a fucking nosedive
lyric trellis
Elf Copter sweep
boreal edge
Elf Copter my goat
lyric trellis
Along with santa
fringe quiver
i think the biome mimics are some of the more interesting vanilla enemies
those are actually pretty damn cool
rose laurel
Post Plant Dungeon, Festive Moons, Jungle Temple and
stuck kite
pillar enemies slander
rose laurel
Ok, Pillars isn't a problem that the enemies are boring
boreal edge
Crawltipede is good
fringe quiver
a big issue i have with terraria enemies is that they're
so
reused
rose laurel
It's that a bunch of them are comically overtuned
fringe quiver
like
rose laurel
lyric trellis
Temple with it's 2 enemies
fringe quiver
throughout like 200 enemies
fathom girder
Temple with it's 2 enemies
Snake and snake but it flies
rose laurel
I don't think Vanilla has too many cases where reuse is like, comically blatant
fringe quiver
solar eclipse
lyric trellis
a big issue i have with terraria enemies is that they're
so
reused
Wow Calamity really is vanilla
rose laurel
If it is, usually the enemies are of the same family
fathom girder
Also, the base AI between enemies that share the same ai usually behave differently through some extra tweaks
fringe quiver
solar eclipse my beloathed (mothron is actually pretty cool though)
rose laurel
It's that a bunch of them are comically overtuned
Pillars imo would've been genuinely amazing if
rose laurel
1 - You didn't have to do them all the time to get fragments and fight Moon Lord
2 - The enemies got touched up a little bit to not be insane
Like
lyric trellis
Some of the better vanilla ai has been tainted by some cal bosses blatantly reusing it and it's all I can think about 💔
summer shore
500 nebula floaters
rose laurel
Vortex and Stardust are GREAT
I like fighting them
Solar and Nebula make me want to end everything
fringe quiver
Some of the better vanilla ai has been tainted by some cal bosses blatantly reus...
mothron...
dragonfolly...................
boreal edge
Except you don't fight the Vortex or Stardust Pillars
fathom girder
Stardust makes me want to explode
boreal edge
Because Vortex gets cheesed by being behind tiles and Stardust gets cheesed by luring a Star Cell out of the range
lyric trellis
mothron...
Slime god!!!
fringe quiver
nooo
lyric trellis
I love fat biome mimics
dusty tinsel
QS should be eradicated it's not a good boss
lyric trellis
I think Ebonian Paladin would be good if it completely copied vanilla qs, projectiles and all
boreal edge
The Rebecca bucks
dusty tinsel
It's a neat idea it's just a bad fight
boreal edge
Rebucka
fringe quiver
i hate queen slime
rose laurel
Which, you could say "Rebecca but that's comically easy Queen Slime is a terrible Boss"
lyric trellis
Isn't cal qs like "we removed the terrible parts and added projectiles that trail down"
fringe quiver
he gets the congragulage you did it star
lyric trellis
Which tbf that's a few of them
boreal edge
Moon Lord
lyric trellis
but yeah like you said, destroyer
fathom girder
Moon lor
fringe quiver
he gets this
lyric trellis
It can always get worse/be just as bad
fringe quiver
moon lord sucks i hate moon lord
atleast with queen slime i can just like skip it or something
fathom girder
I think true eyes should keep their death rays
fringe quiver
but that motherfucker is the FINAL BOSS
rose laurel
Moon Lord isn't terrible imo, like
fathom girder
But they shouldn't sweep so much
lyric trellis
Soaring Insignia boss
fringe quiver
i just really hate his fight design its so asssss
so many
tiny projectiles that r hard to see and a bunch of random shit in ur screen happening at once and the fucking eyes and ughhhhhhh
rose laurel
When the magic of Moon Lord being groundbreaking for Vanilla standards wears off
You realize he's just painfully mid
lyric trellis
Mid is generous
fringe quiver
its literally like flesh prison ultrakills levels of random bullshit except somehow worse because fresh prison ultrakill has some amount of coherence compared to it
fringe quiver
moon lord is more random bullshit than the boss that is ACTIVELY MEANT to be random bullshit
rose laurel
I also have to give Fab another good point that he made Moon Lord better but I think as time went on he kinda just
fathom girder
Head and hands boss with a single huge attack to keep in mind and the rest can be ignored
fringe quiver
rose laurel
Overdid it?
lyric trellis
As in removing prediction?
rose laurel
No like, he put Moon Lord in a great spot that still made sense with Vanilla
thick coyote
are we talking calamity moon lord or vanilla because i actually like calamity moon lord (havent fought him since bountiful though so maybe he got Fa*soled)
summer shore
Removing the eye lasers
rose laurel
And then he started doing more random bullshit and it got ?????
summer shore
biggest fab W imo
fringe quiver
are we talking calamity moon lord or vanilla because i actually like calamity mo...
vanilla
atleast
fathom girder
Nahhhh he didn't have to remove them
fringe quiver
im talking abougt vanilla
rose laurel
I gotta be real here, though
fathom girder
He coulda done something to nerf them but keep em in
fathom girder
Sideliner
rose laurel
Biggest Fab W is Rev Twins
misty wren
He coulda done something to nerf them but keep em in
i mean he could have sure but the eye lasers are also unequivocally ass and horrible
thick coyote
Twins are very fun
fathom girder
Rev twins is always a nice fight
rose laurel
Twins are imo the best Vanilla Boss I fucking love fighting them so much
thick coyote
definitely agree there
dusty tinsel
Let that sink in cheese
lyric trellis
And then he started doing more random bullshit and it got ?????
Idk how far back you're going but I can't think of a single ML change in the past 4 years besides removing predictiveness (and another one that doesn't matter here)
thick coyote
when i think of vanilla i think of Twins
fathom girder
When I think vanilla i think ML
Because i'm a terrarian enjoyer
I want that yoyo
rose laurel
There's something about Twins that just fucks extremelly hard. Honestly I genuinely think it's the chat message 😭
Like
"This will be a terrible night" is SO FUCKING GOOD
Whoever thought of that COOKED
fathom girder
Thanks red
misty wren
i mean he could have sure but the eye lasers are also unequivocally ass and horr...
not even a damage and velocity nerf fixes them because 90% of the time the eyes arent even on screen so you're getting hit by projectiles that you either have to rod through or just pray you outspeed them
and that doesnt work very well if you're in a real combat scenario, the lasers on their own, sure those are dodgeable, but with the 7 billion other projectiles ml has its not really reasonable to assume those get dodged
rose laurel
No
rose laurel
EoC is "you feel an evil presence watching over you"
thick coyote
oh i thought eoc was "Tonight is going to be a horrible night"
misty wren
nope
thick coyote
huh
summer shore
Impending doom approaches
gotta be one of the hardest phrases ever
misty wren
that might be the summon tooltip, i forgor, but not the chat message
lapis oak
when the dementia hits
thick coyote
Ahhh
lyric trellis
Calclone 🥀
rose laurel
You mean other bosses?
Also, no
thick coyote
Need Yharon to get a natural spawn with a hard as fuck line signaling it 🙏
fathom girder
"She is here."
This would hit if she wasn't a glorified retinazor
rose laurel
Honestly I meant moreso the fucking
thick coyote
TRUE
fathom girder
Need Yharon to get a natural spawn with a hard as fuck line signaling it 🙏
"Flames dance across the wind" or some shit
thick coyote
Id go with something about a distant roar if i was making it
rose laurel
Honestly the only thing I'd like to do with Yharon is like
lyric trellis
Remember when ML spawned like 12 true eyes and you had to kill them
thick coyote
Yharon is just the number one boss i want a natural spawn for since iirc the lore literally is that he ambushes you
rose laurel
What triggers him naturally spawning, because there's plenty of grinding to be done after DoG and making it be able to happen immediately after would be kind of a kick in the nuts
summer shore
Provi's one will be "ashes begin to rise" surely
thick coyote
*What* triggers him naturally spawning, because there's plenty of grinding to be...
i mean you can immediately get mech spawns after wof
misty wren
That's so ????
...reb thats a change initially from 2019
2020 if you count that change as really happening when true eyes were added back into the fight
rose laurel
Guh????
thick coyote
so seems to be a moot point
summer shore
No it's funny
thick coyote
I disagree, it only take a few seconds to die and i like the flavor
fathom girder
*What* triggers him naturally spawning, because there's plenty of grinding to be...
Perhaps it could be a lunatic cultist thing? After killing DoG, at the dungeon or at some random place on the map, auric cultists(or whatever) worship one of those fake yharon eggs and you can come in and destroy it to summon him
dry whale
oh i thought eoc was "Tonight is going to be a horrible night"
thats twins, close enough
summer shore
No it's funny
Also if you somehow beat them you feel like a total fucking badass
fathom girder
And then he can slowly spawn in similarly to ml
rose laurel
I honestly would make so you could soar a trumpet that was, for the lack of a better word
lyric trellis
...reb thats a change initially from 2019
2020 if you count that change as reall...
Yeah I was confused because it sounded like ML got more changes recently but yeah, old
rose laurel
You doxxing yourself to Yharon
arctic cliff
Tbf Reaper Shark shouldn't be a Miniboss 😭
I was gonna go and make fun of you for saying this but for some fucking reason the three abyss minibosses arent listed as minibosses on the wiki??? what?
rose laurel
rose laurel
Following that Yharon could naturally spawn at any time
summer shore
Also if you somehow beat them you feel like a total fucking badass
Imagine freshly beating dog and crafting like One cosmilite weapon then yharon comes and you fucking beat him
dry whale
I was gonna go and make fun of you for saying this but for some fucking reason t...
yeah a lot of commonly considerated minibosses arent actually minibosses
summer shore
That'd make you feel awesome
arctic cliff
anyhow, you think THIS should not be a miniboss?
rose laurel
Ok actually I just had an INSANE idea
thick coyote
i guess if you change the lore thatd work but i thought it was cool as fuck that the terrarian gets ambushed by Yharon of all people and wins, but then again I guess DoG also is an ambush so
misty wren
Guh????
1.4.2.106 (october 26 2019) made true eyes not pop out
1.4.3.2 (march 9 2020) made true eyes spawn in the moon lord fight on top of the 1.4.2.106 change
so those changes are between 5 and 6 years old
arctic cliff
I mean, true
dry whale
cloud elemental, earth elemental, abyss minibosses, plaguebringer
none of them are actual minibosses
lyric trellis
I was gonna go and make fun of you for saying this but for some fucking reason t...
Ngl I thought plaguebringers and armored digger were still minibosses
misty wren
anyhow, you think THIS should not be a miniboss?
scorn eater
arctic cliff
This doesnt make any sense
fathom girder
scorn eater
2017 ass sprite
misty wren
they function as regular enemies so they arent considered minibosses
rose laurel
Pretty sure they lost health bar privileges next update
dry whale
tell us
rose laurel
Yharon can spawn as a roaming enemy
thick coyote
cinema
fathom girder
Aquatic scourge 2
lyric trellis
Pretty sure they lost health bar privileges next update
No! Not plaguebringer, it's eoc roar dash sound efffect is all it'll have left
misty wren
2017 ass sprite
close! its actually from 2018
fathom girder
Oh damn
lean relic
let her cook
rose laurel
He actively hunts you down the entire world and will engage you in the Boss fight if he finds you (he might be losing bordernadoes so there wouldn't be issues with that)
And you can use the trumpet to go "I'M HERE DICKHEAD" and he'll instantly dart towards you
thick coyote
him losing bordernados would be nice, a fight against a dragon should feel like a chase
arctic cliff
...trumpet? like the trumpets from mbotomy lorp?
fathom girder
And you can use the trumpet to go "I'M HERE DICKHEAD" and he'll instantly dart t...
Utterly terrifying
lean relic
...trumpet? like the trumpets from mbotomy lorp?
🪦
misty wren
ngl i read the after dog and my brain edited that into after moon lord and i was about to say thats the same issue as mechs
dry whale
He actively hunts you down the entire world and will engage you in the Boss figh...
you're cooking
thick coyote
this is absolute cinema btw rebecca you cooked
fathom girder
I love that idea yeah
rose laurel
And the best thing is
fathom girder
The constant dread of yharon trying to find me
lapis oak
He actively hunts you down the entire world and will engage you in the Boss figh...
considering the player will probably spend most of the time is Distortion? to upgrade their gears this could be nice to have
rose laurel
Yes
summer shore
You just see his map icon in the jungle somewhere as he approaches your ass
rose laurel
That's exactly what I was gonna say
misty wren
just keep the progression skippable summon 🙏
rose laurel
summer shore
Me hiding in the distortion to avoid the spicy chicken special
lapis oak
Yharon won't be able to find me, I'm too busy raving in my little Distortion 😇
misty wren
just keep the progression skippable summon 🙏
i love pre moon lord yharon
thick coyote
just keep the progression skippable summon 🙏
losing a progression skip for this amount of flavor would be ok imo
dry whale
Me hiding in the distortion to avoid the spicy chicken special
kid named noxus:
rose laurel
However since the Distortion is gonna take a while, we'll have to do the second best thing of "Yharon goes to sleep during the night"
And also fucks off during any events
summer shore
eepy birb
fathom girder
That would work yeah
thick coyote
mans gotta get his sleep
dry whale
cosmolight abuse
rose laurel
Anyways I'm gonna go share this in Dev
lyric trellis
Yharon helps you out and kills old duke in tier 3
rose laurel
fathom girder
Good luck
thick coyote
Anyways I'm gonna go share this in Dev
you cooked
azure oak
Terrifying
nocturne sonnet
No! Not plaguebringer, it's eoc roar dash sound efffect is all it'll have left
why does plaguebringer mini even exist atp
dry whale
more plague material thing
misty wren
if the progression skip would be canned at any point it would be if/when folly gets the retier
dry whale
it drops a considerable amount
dry whale
if the progression skip would be canned at any point it would be if/when folly g...
go my yharon pre wof
rose laurel
Also yes we'd definitely keep the progression skip
Just
Doxx yourself whenever you want
lyric trellis
why does plaguebringer mini even exist atp
1 accessory
rose laurel
thick coyote
sounding the trunpet works even pre dog makes sense yeah
misty wren
go my yharon pre wof
i mean have you not heard of wofless this is already currently possible
rose laurel
By the time you can craft the spawner you'd be known by Yharon so it's easy to just say
azure oak
Yharon's new summon method is to scream at him to square up
misty wren
SQUARE UP MOTHERFUCKER IM TWO GUN MAN
thick coyote
Yharon's new summon method is to scream at him to square up
"Ive come to make an announcement, Yharon is a bitch ass motherfucker"
dry whale
i mean have you not heard of wofless this is already currently possible
uuh yharon pre wof AND moonlord how about that 
arctic cliff
someone should go resprite it to be that even without the whole yharon ambush mechanic
lyric trellis
Yharon pre-boss
misty wren
uuh yharon pre wof AND moonlord how about that <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
close to possible currently
lyric trellis
Spawns in a chest like fishron worms
dusk bronze
we talking about unique boss summon methods?
nocturne sonnet
1 accessory
remove mini so PBG can be just "The Plaguebringer"
sounds much cleaner i think
lyric trellis
pb
misty wren
woflordless is genuinely very close to being possible
thick coyote
remove mini so PBG can be just "The Plaguebringer"
sounds much cleaner i think
hes true
give this guy a true
dry whale
we talking about unique boss summon methods?
reb's idea of yharon wandering in the world wanting to kick your ass post dog
dusk bronze
peak 🔥
misty wren
remove mini so PBG can be just "The Plaguebringer"
sounds much cleaner i think
go my #suggestions-posting !
dry whale
and he eeps at night
nocturne sonnet
perhaps
pearl sentinel
And you can use the trumpet to go "I'M HERE DICKHEAD" and he'll instantly dart t...
why are you allowed to speak peak
azure oak
Imagine being able to hide from yharon by staying out of sight
thick coyote
hopefully no one from red Nation was reading that
lapis oak
and he won't be able to find you because you'll be on your ass grinding in Distortion
hiding 😇
pearl sentinel
remove mini so PBG can be just "The Plaguebringer"
sounds much cleaner i think
plaguebringer goliath goes crazy fym
dry whale
and he won't be able to find you because you'll be on your ass grinding in Disto...
sir there's a noxus behind you
misty wren
mr president a second superboss has hit the terrarian
lapis oak
I have a passport he will do nuhthing
dry whale
oh okay
azure oak
Ok so first yharon could spook the player by appearing randomly on the surface
arctic cliff
also speaking of the idea of superbosses, who the hell would make for a good superboss
dry whale
"SURPRISE YOU BITCH"
azure oak
And then could spook the player again by not actually dying when his health reaches 0
misty wren
I have a passport he will do nuhthing
you assume the distortion has a robust legal and/or international/interdimensional travel system
dry whale
also speaking of the idea of superbosses, who the hell would make for a good sup...
andromeda
arctic cliff
like as in which calamity boss could be converted into an optional superboss
lyric trellis
also speaking of the idea of superbosses, who the hell would make for a good sup...
Dragon god yharon and DoU
misty wren
ancient doomsayer
summer shore
invoked stargod
dry whale
ancient doomsayer
misty wren
invoked stargod
tRUE
dry whale
damn
summer shore
@doze add invoked stargod
dry whale
andromeda superboss when
summer shore
Never
dry whale
:c
summer shore
Draedon has enough shit
hard copper
Is invoked stargod deus?
dry whale
uninfected adult deus I think
summer shore
It's some chinese boss based off of deus or smth
lyric trellis
Old deus canon where it was "a light year long"
raw falcon
thats
misty wren
yeah
raw falcon
actually stupid
misty wren
its old lore prime deus
dry whale
was that actually a thing 😭
thick coyote
yep
pearl sentinel
uninfected adult deus I think
invoked stargod is deus before dog ate it i think
when it was a light year lon
g
raw falcon
this implies the devourer was somewhere close to the speed of light when he ate deus, because if he wasnt it would've taken him forever
arctic cliff
i mean when i read the old lore for astrum deus, i genuinely believed the boss we fought, the swarm of deus worms, were normal terraria worms that fed upon old astrum deus's corpse and became the boss we knew and loved
lyric trellis
That deus got a disease from noxus and then dog ate it to gain power when it was almost a corpse
raw falcon
That deus got a disease from noxus and then dog ate it to gain power when it was...
bro slurped on him for years
lyric trellis
I mean at the scale of old lore, who knows
misty wren
it only ate part of it iirc
raw falcon
because Dog is not faster than light!!!
pearl sentinel
does anyone have the invoked stargod gif
what is that even from
was that being made as an addon or smth
fringe quiver
i really like the yharon natural spawn idea
misty wren
does anyone have the invoked stargod gif
i have it but it would result in epic embed failure
dusk bronze
post
fringe quiver
specially since other bosses like aureus will also get that sort of thing
thick coyote
i really like the yharon natural spawn idea
hope it goes well in cal dev
hard copper
a light year long deus would be approximately 1,800,000,000,000 times the width of a large world 
thick coyote
because that is cinema
fringe quiver
i think the way rebecca described makes it pretty balanced to the point it isn't much of a problem for the player - They might get caught offguard by it once or twice but otherwise it'd more so just be a really damn cool worldbuilding thing
white vigil
Guys trust, goozma will
Make a return I know it will
pearl sentinel
i think the way rebecca described makes it pretty balanced to the point it isn't...
esp since post ml will be mostly distortion in a based world
dusk bronze
ohh that one
lapis oak
Magnetic Thanatos and Assassination Yharon
lapis oak
it's peak
misty wren
yeah so who made this
no fucking clue i stole it from yez in ye olden days
summer shore
Probably for fun
arctic cliff
WAIT
SOME OF THE STRUCTURES IN THE GIF
THEY'RE FROM ANCIENTS AWAKENED
I REMEMBER
misty wren
yeah
arctic cliff
they had a marsh biome and a sky temple
lyric trellis
Ancient mod
arctic cliff
got jumpscared when i realized
pearl sentinel
this is how people act like the new DoG is gonna be 😭
misty wren
im forgetting my aa knowledge its been so long
raw falcon
ancients awakened my beloved
azure oak
There should probably be some kind of timer though to prevent yharon from spawning too soon after you beat DoG
dusk bronze
yeah like
3 game days
arctic cliff
im forgetting my aa knowledge its been so long
regretably i remember
(because i stopped playing it post-protofabsol incident)
dusk bronze
would be good
azure oak
Imagine finally beating DoG and a couple minutes later yharon just obliterates you
thick coyote
Eh, its not a big deal as long as he spawns near the edge of the map
hard copper
maybe at the dawn of every day?
dusk bronze
Eh, its not a big deal as long as he spawns near the edge of the map
what if you kill dog there
thick coyote
maybe like one day
lapis oak
Imagine finally beating DoG and a couple minutes later yharon just obliterates y...
that would be funny
summer shore
what if you kill dog there <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
Opposite side of the world
Easy
thick coyote
three days is almost too long if you're efficent with your farming i feel
dusk bronze
Opposite side of the world
immediately uses magic conch
summer shore
too bad
raw falcon
Eh, its not a big deal as long as he spawns near the edge of the map
That'd be so fucking funny
Yharon spawns in with this ominous ass text message at the edge of your map and just fucking books it to your location
fringe quiver
There should probably be some kind of timer though to prevent yharon from spawni...
this could be indicated by just having a invisible timer
and then when the timer goes to 0 you get a message in the chat
summer shore
Have him spawn in the underworld
dusk bronze
That'd be so fucking funny
Yharon spawns in with this ominous ass text message a...
the missile
fringe quiver
"The phoenix has started its pursuit" or w/e
azure oak
You kill DoG and you see the message "Someone is hunting you" in chat
summer shore
this could be indicated by just having a invisible timer
and then when the timer...
[ BIG BIRD APPROACHING IN 2 MINUTES]
fringe quiver
FIRE
fringe quiver
You kill DoG and you see the message "Someone is hunting you" in chat
OK WAIT THIS IS AWESOME
just