calamity-update-talk

[earnest comet]

or standalone

i’m lucky i’m good enough at sound design to decipher “analog” synths

although i’ve never used it so unless i can manage to recreate the FX in a different software i’ll have to do a lot of reading lol

[pseudo vector]

it uses reason effects

[brave star]

Is the new Exo mechs name theme gonna be a complete new melody from the old one you live-streamed before?

[pseudo vector]

i'm probably gonna be taking sections from that one that i liked, and plugging them in here and there into this newer rendition

[earnest comet]

oh god revision 195

[pseudo vector]

anyways here's the effects i used for draedon @earnest comet

[earnest comet]

oh that’s a fun UI

[pseudo vector]

they're reason vsts but you can probably recreate them

[earnest comet]

yeah

my main concern is that audiomatic plug-in

it’s probably doing a lot of heavy lifting and it’s a blackbox

guess i know what i’m doing the rest of the day

christ reason 13 is expensive

[pseudo vector]

reason is
yes expensive

just yes

[earnest comet]

i love proprietary shit!!!

wow i’m looking at reason

this is one of the worst subscription systems i’ve ever seen for a DAW

[pseudo vector]

i (and by i, i mean my dad) bought it outright like 7 years ago

[earnest comet]

i’m not gonna try anything 🏴‍☠️ because i assume no one has figured out how to do it yet for 13

i just have a feeling

[oblique escarp]

is the terminus resprite coming in SSO?

[lean relic]

uh uh

maybe?

[brave star]

What do all of the effects sound like

[earnest comet]

i get to approximate this with VSTs on a different DAW so let’s see here

i’ll try a bunch of different “retro” plugins to see if i can get a similar sound to ART radio

unison and chorus/flanger are trivial

foldback distortion should be relatively simple?

i’m a bit concerned about the reverb because every plugin is different and those knobs don’t tell me much

what’s EKO ShortStack?

i tried searching it up but all i found was a furaffinity adoptable page

whatever it’s a basic reverb plugin from the looks of things, i’ll just need to get one with built-in EQ

[pseudo vector]

LMAO

yeah its just reverb

reason's preset names are pretty funny

[earnest comet]

the plight of a sound designer

hell this isn’t even the first time

i remember looking for a saturation plugin called sausage fattener

definitely some interesting search results

[valid crypt]

😭

[pseudo vector]

💀

[rich ginkgo]

yeah

along with its new “shrine”

[oblique escarp]

nice

[oblique escarp]

what's the shrine gonna be like?

[dense prawn]

i only just realised what SSO means i've been so confused every time i've read it lol

[simple imp]

super sunken overhaul

[oblique escarp]

super sonic overhaul

[serene parrot]

“can no longer feed angler to trashers”
the calamity mod has fallen pack it up boys

but seriously I thought the changes wouldn’t suck

[rich ginkgo]

dk

[oblique escarp]

I thought that just meant he doesn't drop a golden rod when he dies to one

[serene parrot]

I don’t like this change

[valid crypt]

Why is it so controversial to not have the player skip 90% of fishing progression

[vivid hemlock]

i love invalidating most of fishing by a really easy method

100% good game design

[oblique escarp]

I don't even do much fishing in general

I only do it when I can get a weapon

[viral merlin]

Because it sucks

[valid crypt]

Then dont fish

[viral merlin]

Spend 90 hours progressing bosses or spend 90 hours to get a single item

[oblique escarp]

fishing doesn't take that long though

[viral merlin]

It needs to be buffed/have the crap cut out of it heavily for it to both be fun and not take as much time as it takes to go from pre boss to moon lord

[oblique escarp]

lots of people play with mods that allow you to buy potions, just buy fishing and sonar potions

[viral merlin]

Maybe if you had devourer of cods

[oblique escarp]

gonna be fr I don't think you've ever tried fishing without the golden fishing rod

[viral merlin]

I myself don't fish because qol mods but when I tried it in vanilla it just straight up sucked

[random ether]

if its bothering u that much then just cheat it in

[oblique escarp]

then why are you even mad about this change?!

[viral merlin]

You have to do a billion quests in order to get it in the first place

[pulsar cobalt]

its thirty

[oblique escarp]

but you don't need it to get fishing items

[viral merlin]

Yah long enough

[pulsar cobalt]

just fucking admit your being lazy for fucks sake

[dense sundial]

besides progression, the other argument for that change is why should you feel rewarded for killing a child

[dense prawn]

its funny

[oblique escarp]

tbf it IS the angler

[dense sundial]

alright i'm gonna say it

you're the problem

[oblique escarp]

I don't even think you should get a reward for any npc tbh

killing npcs I mean

[dense sundial]

probably true, actually

[dense prawn]

i dont even mind this getting removed as one of the 7 terraria fishing enjoyers on the planet. but it does make me laugh sometimes

[viral merlin]

If not wanting to spend 5 hours standing in one place fishing out bass is being lazy then maybe you should seek out employment, you have too much free time on your hands buddy

[pulsar cobalt]

it doesnt take 5 hours

[oblique escarp]

once again telling us that you've never fished without getting the golden rod early

[viral merlin]

Anyway I'm not even talking about the change I just wanted to talk about fishing sucking

[dense sundial]

i don't like terraria fishing either, but i think it's less of its own problem than an overall terraria rng problem

[pulsar cobalt]

all of ur messages about this convo has been about this change

[dense sundial]

there are SO many things in this game that just require luck

[viral merlin]

Also true

[random ether]

i love fishing :(

[dense sundial]

and by "don't like" i mean i don't think it's good but i'm perfectly fine with actually doing it

[hushed hazel]

you really do not need to get this aggressive over terraria fishing

[viral merlin]

I didn't even know what the Convo was about, I just saw it was about fishing lol

Also yeah

It's just a game don't get heated over pixels

[oblique escarp]

just get a decent fishing rod, buy some fishing and sonar potions, get some worms and craft enchanted nightcrawlers, and you can pretty much get any unique item in like half an hour

[dense sundial]

i never really felt the need for golden rod anyway

[dense prawn]

off topic but i hate this fucking argument so much

[dense sundial]

you can get fiberglass, mechanic's, sitting duck

[pulsar cobalt]

yes its honestly just kinda

meh

[valid crypt]

If you dont like fishing then dont fish

[pulsar cobalt]

oops

[pulsar cobalt]

meant this

its like 5% better than other rods u can get

[viral merlin]

It's never deep enough to actually get angry about

[pulsar cobalt]

thats worse than getting better bait

[dense sundial]

bait contributes about the same amount of fishing power and it's WAY easier to get strong bait

[oblique escarp]

like I'm not even someone that fishes in terraria much but getting a golden rod early is terrible

[dense sundial]

start with nightcrawlers, save master from crates and quests

[valid crypt]

Nothing mandatory is behind it

[oblique escarp]

I mostly use QOL mods to buy potions that require fishing anyway

[grave geyser]

Ok but can we talk about how getting a decent rod is ass

[valid crypt]

Mechanics rod is just buy it no?

[grave geyser]

Fiberglass is just rng

[viral merlin]

Unless you get god awful seed that doesn't have the item you need

[oblique escarp]

just get better bait and fishing potions

[grave geyser]

Mech rod is like moon phase or some bullshit

[hushed hazel]

bait used to be believable............

[oblique escarp]

just make a different world

[dense sundial]

i think this is every other moon phase

[grave geyser]

And then sitting ducks is traveling merchant

[valid crypt]

Ok check the mechanic at night now and then

[misty wren]

yes

[viral merlin]

Fair but sometimes you want to play through a single world, without having to resort to making another one just for a single item

[misty wren]

missing full both halfs and the new moon

[pulsar cobalt]

fibreglass is 20% from jungle crates

lmao

[valid crypt]

Lmao thats not rare

[dense sundial]

i thought it could be in shrines

[random ether]

out of curiosity, what items do u usually require fishing when getting a bad seed?

[misty wren]

fiberglass is also from chests

[grave geyser]

It’s decently rare

[dull heart]

it can be

[valid crypt]

Fiberglass is also in jungle crates i think

[grave geyser]

Jungle crates arnt common by any means

[valid crypt]

Not crates

[valid crypt]

Chests

[dull heart]

Yes

[misty wren]

yes

[grave geyser]

They are

[pulsar cobalt]

yea but its much rarer there

[valid crypt]

Then explore the world

[dense sundial]

i think the conclusion to be drawn here is that terraria fishing power actually has decent progression to it

[misty wren]

except scarab rod isnt that one exclusively from crates and also exactly the same as fiberglass

[grave geyser]

I love exploring half the jungle for +8 fishing power (fiberglass is 30% right)

[oblique escarp]

also everybody is forgetting that sandy angler kits from desert scourge give fishing, sonar and crate potions so you don't even need QOL mods

[pulsar cobalt]

crates and quests give plenty of bait

[pulsar cobalt]

weaker and rarer

for some reason

[dense sundial]

💀

[viral merlin]

What does fishing power even give again
Faster catch and more drop chance for useful loot?

[dense sundial]

exactly, you have to fish first to get better at fishing (to an extent)

[pulsar cobalt]

it is but as i said before its simply easier doing crates for it

[dense prawn]

idek i just see bigger number and go "yeah thats probably good"

[valid crypt]

Youd also get other jungle loot which could be useful depending on stage of game

[misty wren]

higher drop chance and faster catches plus higher power allows you to get certain drops

[viral merlin]

Pretty much the same
I never dug deep enough to actually find out what it does

[dense sundial]

you'll want to explore the jungle anyway, right? for material drops, nature's gift, feral claws, anklet of the wind, boomstick

[valid crypt]

I think a mix of both?

[pulsar cobalt]

yea

[viral merlin]

Oh I see, makes sense

[valid crypt]

Yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

exploring the jungle is a pretty big part of pre hm equipment

[grave geyser]

Mana flower is lowkey ass phm so not that Byeah

[oblique escarp]

I just saw the Calamitas plushie in your pfp and got sad because I missed it when it was available

[dense prawn]

same 😭

[misty wren]

its ass in general all the homies hate mana flower

[pulsar cobalt]

its offcentre and i dont like that

[pulsar cobalt]

TRUE

[oblique escarp]

omg it is

[thick coyote]

mana flower more like "yes please let me kill the entire identity of my class"

[grave geyser]

Unfortunately numbers

[thick coyote]

good item!

[dense prawn]

oh yeah... oops

[vivid hemlock]

mana flower the beloathed

i love playing fake ranger

[misty wren]

mana regen builds are infinitely better the only time i would ever use mana flower is for prism weapons and even then. nah im good lol

[dense prawn]

part of me doesn't want to fix it

[thick coyote]

i just dont use prism weapons

[misty wren]

prism weapons i just stack fuckloads of cost reduction on and that works just about the same

[grave geyser]

Prism weapons so awesome

[oblique escarp]

rancor is my fav weapon so I kinda need mana potions

[grave geyser]

Remember old cbc

Where you couldn’t turn

[misty wren]

remember old traitorous,

[grave geyser]

No I skipped 1.5

[thick coyote]

what is cbc

[valid crypt]

cbc?

[misty wren]

it was actually there until like 2.0.2

[valid crypt]

Calamitous book calamities?

[grave geyser]

Charged blaster cannon

[misty wren]

maybe later i forgot the exact version it died on

[thick coyote]

ah

[valid crypt]

Oh that ew

[native thistle]

hi

[pulsar cobalt]

i love how traitorous was undiscovered for like over a year

[oblique escarp]

ngl I use alchemist npc but the operator and tinkerer are terrible additions

they kill any reason to grind for materials

[misty wren]

oh no it was discovered by the devs and the only thing that happened was a comment of "this cant be right" and the damage never got changed

[dense sundial]

💀

[pulsar cobalt]

no way...

[valid crypt]

Prismas pristine potions is like a better version that lets you remove any npcs you dont like iirc?

[grave geyser]

Try prismas pristine potions it’s like alch but with slightly less bullshit

[vivid hemlock]

peak?

[pulsar cobalt]

i need to look at an older version to check that

[oblique escarp]

alchemist npc has a config to get rid of npcs thankfully

[lyric trellis]

Most work put into enchantment balancing

[pulsar cobalt]

dont feel like doing it rn tho im in phone

[pulsar cobalt]

"itll only be used for one boss itll be fine"

[misty wren]

it only got changed once the half second exos kill happened

[valid crypt]

Ah forgot that
Either way prismas is prob good to give a look

[valid crypt]

Fuckjng

What

[pulsar cobalt]

traitorous biofussilade my beloved

[valid crypt]

Huh

What

Half second exo kill?!?

[pulsar cobalt]

the traitorous demon did 600k dmg and it was smthn like

[valid crypt]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

it spawned when u had low mana and was using mana

[lyric trellis]

Pretty sure it was with demonshade so you couldn’t do it on tier but yeah

[grave geyser]

Aresgobyebye.mp4

[pulsar cobalt]

so someone just used biofussilade cuz it shoots rlly fucking fast

[misty wren]

if you kill thanatos soon enough it counts as every mech dying

[pulsar cobalt]

usetime of 2 or 3 btw

some insane shit

also that yea

[misty wren]

lowest usetime that could be used with traitorous

[fringe quiver]

mew

[misty wren]

there was one that had 2 usetime but it didnt work with traitorous

[pulsar cobalt]

sad !

[cunning sequoia]

who even you

[random ether]

any clips of it?

[grim cloud]

I will jump in with a completely random idea and go away, alright?
If we can't feed angler to trashers to get the loot anymore, then trashers shouldn't spawn angler on kills either. I just don't want to deal with him

[pulsar cobalt]

gatling laser

[fringe quiver]

mrroww

[vivid hemlock]

i wonder if the laser gloves will work kinda like the prosthesis

[pulsar cobalt]

work how

if u mean like the way it aims it seems so but i dont think we have any info on how it shoots

[fringe quiver]

le mana drain has arrived

[misty wren]

#calamity-update-talk message

[random ether]

does there happen to be a vid of the kill

[valid crypt]

Fire

[misty wren]

yeah i just dont have it

[late eagle]

OH MY GOD MY DREAMS COME TRUE ONCE AGAIN

So many emotions🥹

I was kinda sad the current mm will die but now I'm pretty hyped

[elfin flax]

does multiplayer have a lot of issues with bosses teleporting around and acting strange?

[late eagle]

I'm sure the devs will do something much better

[vivid hemlock]

current miracle matter deserves to be put down

[pearl sentinel]

yes lets get rid of the guaranteed way to get a useful npc because

annoying

[misty wren]

got the video

[grave geyser]

Yes

[late eagle]

Yeah yeah I understand. Even so, I really liked it

[random ether]

damn alright

that's a sight

[pearl sentinel]

Draedon: Dude what the fuck is wrong with you

[late eagle]

But it is time to let it go

[late eagle]

100% nilk

[random ether]

"I spent my lifes work on those"

[misty wren]

it resulted in afaik the largest damage nerf in calamity history

[azure oak]

honeslty aside from the red goop, i actually do like how the new miracle matter stuff is looking

[fringe quiver]

same yea

im waiting for like

[grave geyser]

More than 1.5 phaselayer

[fringe quiver]

the final sprites to actually give my thoughts

[grave geyser]

?

[fringe quiver]

but ilike the direction its taking

its definitely already better than the previous aesthethic 😭

i quite like the like, dark rainbow crystals

they're pretty

and the way the roots r replaced by this sort of grayish almost plaster/bone like material is rly nice

def looks better imo

[pulsar cobalt]

my guy traitorous had 600k dmg attached to it

[fringe quiver]

the reddish blood/goop is my big concern rn but again i'm gonna wait for the sprite to be finalized to give my honest thoughts

[pulsar cobalt]

phaseslayer had 10k

😭

[dense sundial]

really enjoying the "freak of nature" concept

[grave geyser]

Funny

[dense sundial]

current mm is quite literally just "things slammed together" which is like, sure that's what it's supposed to be, but it does not look interesting or coherent at all

[azure oak]

also if you take away the red stuff it's basically the opposite of the exo mech drops

organic, primarily a light, natural looking material and prisms that are dark on the inside

[fringe quiver]

ohh true

[hot summit]

What red stuff?

[azure oak]

the goop

[hot summit]

what is that supposed to be 💔

[fringe quiver]

miracle matter

its getting a new aesthethic because the old one is weird and bad

so its items are being resprited

👍

[pearl sentinel]

not sure how i feel about this

[hot summit]

Wow, didn't know that

[pearl sentinel]

ill reserve judgement until its finished

[fringe quiver]

same yea

[hot summit]

I have mixed feelings about it now

[dull heart]

why is it red...

[fringe quiver]

my only real gripe is the

[pearl sentinel]

but like

[fringe quiver]

the blood goop

[pearl sentinel]

why is it bleeding

[fringe quiver]

other tahn that i like the direction it's taking

i don't think "why is it bleeding" is my issue

it makes enough sense

[pulsar cobalt]

did tobias or traingle say wat the red and white were meant to be

[vivid hemlock]

hmmm should i send more screenshots from the livestream

[dull heart]

I know WHY it's red from like, the logic of what it is supposed to be

[fringe quiver]

it's just a unnatural biological mess, and the blood is meant to sorta symbolize it literally being "bleeding" exo prisms

[hot summit]

it looks alien, maybe that's why it looks so fitting and unfitting at the same time

[fringe quiver]

my problem isn't "why"

it makes sense

[dull heart]

yeah

[pearl sentinel]

like how sith turn their kyber crystals red by torturing it with the force until it bleeds?

fire

[fringe quiver]

my problem is the actual execution of it, but admittedly 1. its unfinished so i'm waiting for it to be Finished 2. i can't tell exactly what my critiques for it are so i'm gonna wait until i can actually put into words to say anything

[plush carbon]

What's the funny weapon I'm looking at here?

Wait is it Heavenly Gale being resprited?

[hot summit]

Miracle Matter

[plush carbon]

Ohh

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is being redesigned

[plush carbon]

I don't mind that

[hot summit]

Hey, its resprite looks actually sick so far

[plush carbon]

I like Miracle Matter going down a creepier route

Cause the name reminds me of Miracle Matter from Kirby

In fact back when it was first added I thought it was a reference to kirby

[hot summit]

Imagine if the Exomechs get resprited

[grave geyser]

Feels too similar to cal stuff at first glance

But eh

[stiff light]

heavenly gayle

[hot summit]

Yea

[vivid hemlock]

never happening

[stiff light]

i love heavenly gale

peak

[vivid hemlock]

biggest waste of time possible

[stiff light]

trueth

[plush carbon]

since adding old duke to the mod of course

[stiff light]

old puke

[grave geyser]

Fuck you

[hot summit]

heavenly gale or contagion, which one would you choose

[stiff light]

like design wise?

[stiff light]

i like gale more

[hot summit]

Design and functionality

[stiff light]

gay L

[hot summit]

yea

[pulsar cobalt]

i dont understand the white part

does he mean to say that the white stuff are roots or

[hot summit]

Me neither, it looks bone-y

[pearl sentinel]

exo mechs probably never getting resprited its already up to standard

[azure oak]

probably

[vivid hemlock]

another image from the stream

[grave geyser]

Ok nvm let them cook

[azure oak]

oh jesus h christ

[fringe quiver]

holy shit

[dull schooner]

💥 ping 💥

[azure oak]

goes hard as hell ngl

[fringe quiver]

tobias..... stand proud

you cooked

[pearl sentinel]

nvm let them cook

[hot summit]

What do you think of the current miracle matter objects sprites?

[fringe quiver]

ass

ok thats like

[vivid hemlock]

horrid

[fringe quiver]

too mean

not that far

[lyric trellis]

Alright it’s peak

[vivid hemlock]

design wise

[fringe quiver]

but the design is pretty ... blehhh

[azure oak]

okay so i guess it's jus that the only example we had was pretty wonky

[fringe quiver]

the sprites themselves are good

[vivid hemlock]

the quality is good

the design is 💥

[brave star]

What’s that

[azure oak]

jesus it's so over the top, i love it

[pulsar cobalt]

i can count the pixels

[fringe quiver]

i assume the crystal to the right of exo is miracle matter's new sprite...

[vivid hemlock]

probably

[hot summit]

Or exo prisms new sprite

[grave geyser]

Can’t believe we’re getting a slaughterer upgrade (it will be broken like the other 2)

[vivid hemlock]

why

would it

be a new prism sprite

[pearl sentinel]

why would it be new exo prism sprite

[vivid hemlock]

tell me

[pearl sentinel]

guys

i dont think

the exo mechs stuff is going to be resprited

[fringe quiver]

it's pretty clearly

[pulsar cobalt]

tbh i kinda expect the glowy parts to have more black considering thats wat heavenly gale did

[fringe quiver]

following the miracle matter aesthethic

[hot summit]

Cause it's so similar to exo prism sprite-wise

[fringe quiver]

i mean yeah

[pearl sentinel]

yeah

[fringe quiver]

miracle matter

r exo prisms

[lyric trellis]

Tooltip is gonna double in length

[fringe quiver]

😭

[pearl sentinel]

miracle matter is just exo prisms that have been bled

[plush carbon]

WOAH

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is bled out exo prisms

[brave star]

What’s that super radiant slaughter resprite in the miracle stuff

[hot summit]

yeah

[vivid hemlock]

thats

[pulsar cobalt]

miracle matter is essentially overloaded exo prisms

[vivid hemlock]

not super slaughter

its an upgrade

[plush carbon]

This aesthetic I'm kinda liking way more than the current one

[pulsar cobalt]

or as tobias user said

bleeding

[hot summit]

Is it made of exo prisms? I don't remember

[fathom girder]

Hoh lee shit

[plush carbon]

Exo Weapons have always kinda had the issue to me of being incomprehensible.

[brave star]

Hyper radiant Saw of Hyperdeath

[lapis oak]

I already said it

[fringe quiver]

dude i love how like

[grave geyser]

It’s elemental tier

[lapis oak]

Let them cook

[fringe quiver]

simultanenously organic and inorganic it looks

its like the perfect inbetween of looking artificial and biological

[plush carbon]

These are gorgeous

[azure oak]

okay yeah no the heavenly gale example was just alright but these are amazing

[mystic eagle]

Ehhhhhh I'm kind of mixed on what is presumably the new exoblade

[hot summit]

If that's exo blade, then it might be one of the best sprites it would ever get

[lapis oak]

Cheese you're inorganic

[pulsar cobalt]

anyways this the only thing i dont like cuz i liked it from the hg sprite

[fathom girder]

I like how organic they look

[vivid hemlock]

i mean it is unfinished

[elfin flax]

is calamity basically unplayable in MP atm?

[fathom girder]

Like the terrarian took a tree branch

And stuck miracle matter on it

[fringe quiver]

its so organic yet so inorganic i love it

[oblique escarp]

what is this

[fringe quiver]

the weird "wood" that also sort of looks like plaster but also sort of looks like bone

its so cool

[pulsar cobalt]

actually

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter weapons

[fringe quiver]

it reminds me

oh my god

[azure oak]

also the whole root thing makes it look a lot more like an evolution of the elemental set

[fringe quiver]

oh my god vanillin

the

[fathom girder]

Hm?

[fringe quiver]

the white part

its just

just ahab ego material

[oblique escarp]

weren't they just resprited

[vivid hemlock]

LITERALLY

[fathom girder]

Yes but they were deemed too messy

[vast ferry]

IS THAT THE M1 GARAND

[vivid hemlock]

bad designs

[plush carbon]

[fringe quiver]

yes but devs werent satisfied

so theyre being redone again

[mystic eagle]

Redesigned and some reworked

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter has a lot more potential than the current iteration

[silk terrace]

right, i still need to add that

[plush carbon]

The current sprites were an improvement but they're still very hard to read

[fringe quiver]

honestly as someone who didn't like the miracle matter aesthethic Much at all

yeah no this is way better

[vast ferry]

SHIT NOW I HAVE TO REMOVE MY M1 GARAND AMMO BOX TEXTURE PACK

[azure oak]

also super saturated, me like

[pulsar cobalt]

also i love how theres normal ass gun in there

[fathom girder]

It kinda makes sense that it looks NOTHING like what the exo mechs have

Because the energy is now stable and like

Can exist naturally

[oblique escarp]

also btw is that another saw weapon in the image?

[agile latch]

Its not meant to

[vast ferry]

That's not a normal gun

[agile latch]

Properly separate the sets too

[azure oak]

hello trongus

[fathom girder]

Ye makes sense

[agile latch]

Miracle is miracle
Exo mechs drops are exo

[pulsar cobalt]

hello traingle

[agile latch]

Idk why users call miracle exo

[vast ferry]

That's the M1 Garand, the PRIDE of WW2 rifles.

[lapis oak]

Yes, it's Magnomaly Cannon rework

[pulsar cobalt]

cuz of exo blade

[azure oak]

exo blade and miracle saw launcher look fucking insane

[lyric trellis]

Looks pretty miraculous

[oblique escarp]

let's go I LOVE the saw weapons

[fringe quiver]

caldev rename exo blade to something else and my life is yours

[fathom girder]

Because we purify exo prisms into miracle matter

[plush carbon]

They've been refered to as Exo Weapons even before Miracle Matter was a thing

[fathom girder]

Or something

[lyric trellis]

Miracle Blade

[brave star]

Hyperbole Blade

[agile latch]

Miraculous blade

[fathom girder]

Terra blade 2

[pulsar cobalt]

anyways why isnt there as much black in the crystally parts in these two

[brave star]

How miraculous

[vast ferry]

Speaking of, we need to rename the exo blade
My dime is on Miracle Slicer

[agile latch]

Exo blade will be a upgrade of elemental shiv and terratomere

In the future

[vivid hemlock]

👁️

[vast ferry]

That, or Rending Miracle

[fathom girder]

Elemental shiv is returning..?

[lapis oak]

Exoblade rework confirmed

[azure oak]

elemental shiv will graduate from shortsword to that thing

[fathom girder]

Wack

[agile latch]

It is

[pulsar cobalt]

it alr exists

[agile latch]

Already real?

[mystic eagle]

It exists already

[fathom girder]

Bruh

[dense sundial]

still ginormous 🥀 (if not bigger than before)
but boy am i fan of the new aesthetic in general

[vivid hemlock]

it wasnt removed

[oblique escarp]

also will SSO have any boss reworks?

[arctic cliff]

i dunno man it feels too similiar to elemental weapons (the upcoming new theme)

[vast ferry]

Elemental shiv still exists

[mystic eagle]

yes

DS

[fathom girder]

I swear it got cut with the shortsword killing update

[pulsar cobalt]

one of the few shortswords that survived the purge

[fathom girder]

I'm insane

[agile latch]

Its smaller

[mystic eagle]

How did Lucrecia survive the purge

[oblique escarp]

it's just that not much has been revealed for the update in terms of bosses

[dense sundial]

on closer inspection actually yeah

not much, but yeah

[vivid hemlock]

is it upcoming

[pulsar cobalt]

others being ds and as drops, lucrecia and cosmic shiv (that one is donor tho iirc)

[vivid hemlock]

if aote has been like that for years

[vast ferry]

Can't wait for the devs to add a secret for the exoblade to look like a harpoon if you name yourself "Ahab"

[dull heart]

there will be minor reworks to other bosses, but not full ones

[hot summit]

I would like if they readded some of the removed shortwords, maybe rework a couple o' them

[thick coyote]

Doze has apparently been cooking with DoG

[vast ferry]

Like ravager pillars no longer deciding to fall through platforms?

[thick coyote]

he was talking about it in CMT

[pulsar cobalt]

spore knife is coming back as a rogue weapon

[silk terrace]

exo gladius is not becoming a thing, exoblade will also not have any real funtionality changes

it will simply use elemental shiv in the recipe and possibly ele shiv will take a few inspirations from exoblade

[thick coyote]

hopefully that comes to fruition

[lapis oak]

How is it... similar... and even if it is, it's literally upgraded tier of Elemental set

[dull heart]

It turns out dog was a lot harder than I thought

[azure oak]

i wonder why the "blood" effect looks so different between them and the heavenly gale

[dull heart]

once other devs tested it

[oblique escarp]

will old duke be sent to the guillotine in SSO?

[fringe quiver]

no

[oblique escarp]

0/10 update

[fringe quiver]

old duke rework is only coming later

[vast ferry]

...why did devs allow ravager pillars to fall through platforms

ser

[pulsar cobalt]

trangle tringle if ur still here can u explain

[mystic eagle]

Fabsol did

Not the devs

[vast ferry]

Oh

[lapis oak]

Thanks Sunny

[dull heart]

what what

Since when did they fall through platforms

[vast ferry]

...yeah devs should fix that

[oblique escarp]

no not rework I mean the ability to put old duke under a guillotine

[dull heart]

like, all platforms always?

[arctic cliff]

well if thats the case ig

[dull heart]

Or just platforms above the player

[vast ferry]

I don't fucking know

I guess they work the same way slimes and enemy AI works

[oblique escarp]

what bosses weren't designed by Fabsol btw?

[vivid hemlock]

not happening until theyre ready to replace it

[valid crypt]

Old duke is getting ship of theseusd

[vivid hemlock]

which is NOT happening in SSO

[dull heart]

Slimes never fall through platforms

[fringe quiver]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vivid hemlock]

acid rain update moment

[fringe quiver]

supreme catastrophe and cataclysm

[lapis oak]

You're literally seeing Miracle Matter of Superradiant Slaughterer cmon now

[fringe quiver]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fathom girder]

Hive mind too

[mystic eagle]

Old Duke is not getting replaced anyway

[valid crypt]

Hive mind?

[pulsar cobalt]

wall of text

[fringe quiver]

hive mind partially i think yea

[pulsar cobalt]

🫗

[thick coyote]

please dont girl

[vivid hemlock]

cheese stop spamming 🥀

[fringe quiver]

and yea thaths uh

thats it

[vivid hemlock]

TSUKI

i will tear you asunder

[fringe quiver]

wow guys wall of text so evil so fucked up ahhh

[lapis oak]

Fuc u Cheese

Why the long nose

[pulsar cobalt]

I WAS SHOWING OFF THE CONSEQUENCES OF CHEESES ACTIONS

[fathom girder]

Wall of text when

[fringe quiver]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[modern grove]

terraria birdlamity mod

[fathom girder]

SHADDAP

[pulsar cobalt]

stop

[lapis oak]

Mod ban this guy

Calling 500 mods in here right now

[fringe quiver]

the more you complain the worse it will get

[fathom girder]

Mods twist their nuts

[fringe quiver]

spite is a powerful driving force

[oblique escarp]

so is it just hive and and supreme brothers not designed by fab?

[lapis oak]

Cheese you're finished

[dull heart]

hive is mostly fabsol

[fathom girder]

Yeah fab was the head of boss ai

[fringe quiver]

hive is only partially not fabsolious

[fathom girder]

Oh huh, thought it was mostly not fab

Okie

[vivid hemlock]

hive for a small window of time was not designed by fab iirc

[oblique escarp]

more like Fab not letting anybody touch them

[hot summit]

Makes sense

[fathom girder]

Por que no los dos

[vast ferry]

Holy shit no wonder a lot of boss AI fucked up in random circumstances

[dull heart]

... Which means he headed the boss ai

If he's the only one to touch them

[vast ferry]

Anyone see the video of the dude beating exo Mechs in a minecart?
Yeah, the boss AI likes screwing up

[fathom girder]

I'm surprised he touched boss ai, none of those were kids

[thick coyote]

...yeah okay

can you dont

[raw falcon]

no wonder that thing is broken

[vast ferry]

turns out Apollo can't dash during phase 2 if you move max speed in a minecart, because you move too fast for it to lock on

[oblique escarp]

ngl the only thing Scal should get in her fight is another attack in her base cycle, when there isn't sepulcher, brothers or seekers she doesn't do that much

[raw falcon]

its dash doesnt work properly since bountiful

[vast ferry]

Hive Mind needs a code rework, and that's the truth

[oblique escarp]

though tbf seekers could use something else as well

[thick coyote]

the downtime moments in the fight improve it

imo

if it was all full throttle then itd maybe be a bit much

[vast ferry]

When defeated, rush towards the player, or fire 3 and then disappear

That's my idea

[raw falcon]

honestly the sepulcher phase feels superfluous, the guy is there for like three seconds, you melt the hearts and he dips again

would be cool if they did something more with it

[vast ferry]

if it was full throttle it would be Infernum

[thick coyote]

never foguht inf scal wouldnt know

and im not gonna watch incase i eventually do

[vivid hemlock]

also flowers of mortality

[oblique escarp]

I mean it could be like that for death mode at least

[vast ferry]

Maybe in the second sepulcher phase, killing it makes it stay, but attack slower

[gritty torrent]

politely shut the fuck up

[fathom girder]

Damn alright

[lapis oak]

Power of Immortality

[vast ferry]

Wait, isn't that the Touhou reference?

[azure oak]

where do these keep coming from
(also cool)

[vivid hemlock]

the stream

[lapis oak]

Art voice chat

[vivid hemlock]

the fated calart vc

[lapis oak]

Where 3 devs leak everything

Yesterday

[oblique escarp]

infernum Scal is really good ngl

[thick coyote]

im sure

i just didnt care to keep playing past Yharon

[raw falcon]

infernum scal is a bit overcooked

[vast ferry]

@vivid hemlock isnt flowers of mortality the Touhou reference, or am I incorrect

[raw falcon]

desperation phase does not need to be there

[lapis oak]

Dia leaks, Tringle leaks, oh ye Tobias leaks too

[oblique escarp]

I like it

[vivid hemlock]

uhhhhhhhhh

[lapis oak]

Generational leaks in art voice chat yesterday

[vast ferry]

wait no that's Resurrection Butterfly butterfly I'm wrong

[vivid hemlock]

theres many

like resurrection butterfly

[vast ferry]

I was thinking the Yuyuko weapon

[raw falcon]

the fucking bells are touhou references apparently

[vivid hemlock]

idk about this one

[oblique escarp]

also glad more elemental weapons are getting reworked most of them still suck

[vast ferry]

...wait there's more than Scarlet Devil and butterfly?

[vivid hemlock]

yeah

[vast ferry]

Interesting

[lapis oak]

Old devs like Touhou

Touhu Tofu

[raw falcon]

Fantasy talisman is a touhou ref

[vivid hemlock]

dark spark

[dull heart]

exo box touhou sim

[vast ferry]

New devs don't like Project Moon (i guess)

[lapis oak]

Truest

[vivid hemlock]

shade is our agent

[vast ferry]

you'd expect a big indie series to get atleast one reference, but that's fine

[raw falcon]

Petah, The red mist is here

[hot summit]

Is that Mana Rose final upgrade?

[vivid hemlock]

No.

[vast ferry]

(cause we got the Menos Prime)

Midas*

Fuck

[oblique escarp]

some of the more boring worm bosses need something cool, kinda like how sepulcher was changed to a centipede

[hot summit]

(-) Prime

[lapis oak]

Flower of Mortality

[thick coyote]

DS is not a worm anymore

[oblique escarp]

nice

[hot summit]

Yesss

[raw falcon]

They dewormed desert scourge?

[thick coyote]

ye

[vivid hemlock]

all worm bosses rn are boring

[vast ferry]

Devourer is changing to a... whatever that is

[raw falcon]

Why though

that was like

[azure oak]

because it's boring

[raw falcon]

THE Worm boss calamity aside from dog

[vast ferry]

Eater and Destroyer are unchanged

[oblique escarp]

Fabsol be like

[hot summit]

THE first boss

[hot summit]

Yea

[thick coyote]

beucase deseret scourge needs to give a better first impression

than worm boss

[vast ferry]

Thanatos should remain unchanged, cause from the mechanical boss lore, it's basically a upgraded Destroyer

[raw falcon]

then make a better worm boss?

[thick coyote]

also

[hot summit]

My guess it that it's now more like a centipede (or whatever it's called)

[vivid hemlock]

desert scourge has legs

[vast ferry]

Thanatos is cool.

[vivid hemlock]

and its NOT a centipede

[thick coyote]

"its iconic and well known" is not a valid reason to keep something so mid and boring around

[vivid hemlock]

its a lizard

[oblique escarp]

when there's like 6 worm bosses you're gonna run out of unique ideas

[vast ferry]

Wait where's it's eyes

[lapis oak]

Hidden

[raw falcon]

fair enough

[hot summit]

They're there in its head

[lapis oak]

You only see it in gores

[hot summit]

Frfr?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

😭

[hot summit]

omg

[raw falcon]

-# I just want convective wanderer back

[oblique escarp]

worm bosses being so boring is why I like infernum aquatic scourge, it stands out

[vivid hemlock]

why is every worm boss assumed to be actually a worm

[dusty tinsel]

Isn't ds more like a salamander

[fringe quiver]

yeah its a salamander lizard guy

[vast ferry]

I know why they won't change Thanatos

[pulsar cobalt]

not just devs

[thick coyote]

to be fiar they're based on the mech bosses

[earnest comet]

I LOVE ENSEMBLE RAAAGH

[vast ferry]

Thanatos is basically Draedon upgrading the destroyer to be...a LOT bigger

[pulsar cobalt]

dark spark is donor item and is touhou reference

[hot summit]

near the antlion-like family?

[lapis oak]

Shaddup Tuki

[oblique escarp]

that's most apparent with sepulcher when it's CLEARLY A CENTIPEDE

[earnest comet]

i'm getting close i can smell it

[silk terrace]

thanatos now has a desperation phase

[earnest comet]

now i need to add retro radio distortion

[thick coyote]

OH?

[raw falcon]

didnt a dev float the idea around that thanatos segments should be detachable?

[lapis oak]

Tuki u tupid

[silk terrace]

it doesn't

[thick coyote]

oh

[pulsar cobalt]

im adding electrons onto you if you talk back to me like that again

[silk terrace]

that was a joke

[vivid hemlock]

the parts revealed so far

[fringe quiver]

whar

antlions are insects dawg

[dusty tinsel]

New ds has legs name a worm that has legs

[hot summit]

My bad

[oblique escarp]

desperation phases are cool

[lapis oak]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

antlions are lions actually

[earnest comet]

time to consult the lo-fi list

[dusty tinsel]

I cast antielectron spell on kiri

[hot summit]

Is that new DS?

[lapis oak]

DS is an anteater

[vivid hemlock]

💔

[lapis oak]

It eats antlions duh

[vivid hemlock]

Yes.

[lapis oak]

With its long ass tongue

[fringe quiver]

no they're lions

[raw falcon]

I heared a dev floated the ide around of making thanatos segments detachable

[fringe quiver]

wait no

i meant to say no they're ants

sorry caht im s tupir

[dusty tinsel]

Antlions hunt ants that's probably why there are no ants in the desert

[oblique escarp]

ARM

[lapis oak]

Just idea

[raw falcon]

ik but itd be unique

itd be kewl

[hot summit]

I could tell that lower part is its tail

[lapis oak]

We don't even know how it went

We're not devs

[vivid hemlock]

thats...

the head

[pulsar cobalt]

[hot summit]

what

[raw falcon]

yeah

thats the head

[dusty tinsel]

That's the head

Post the gif

[lapis oak]

That's its head

[dusty tinsel]

I don't have the gif

[dusty tinsel]

Not you you don't have image perms

[fringe quiver]

calspoiler talk fails at basic biology

[vivid hemlock]

lizards are protosomes now 🥀

[raw falcon]

-# I JUST realized that tale of a cruel world has the same melodies as scals theme

[dusty tinsel]

Vanilla where is the ds head opening gif lol

[raw falcon]

twas a missclick

[dusty tinsel]

XD

[vivid hemlock]

im on my phone cant post it

@pulsar cobalt

[vast ferry]

that's the head (now it's 5 times)

[vivid hemlock]

you

[pulsar cobalt]

im also on my fucking phone

dumbass

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

ud know this if u checked sscls

[earnest comet]

imma see if Izotope Vinyl can recreate the audiomatic retro radio sound

[dusty tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[hot summit]

are those on the head's middle left and middle right side horns?

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[dusty tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1382655588856758354/Los_pollos_hermanos.gif

[hot summit]

WHAT

[dusty tinsel]

Took me a whole minute to find that

[raw falcon]

I really dont like that one mandible opens before the other tbh

its bugging me

[vivid hemlock]

not a mandible

[earnest comet]

nope

[raw falcon]

jaw mandible its there to bite shi

same thing

[hot summit]

not a mandible anymore, nor horn-like teeth

[pulsar cobalt]

its a fucking mouth

cheek

thing

little flap

[raw falcon]

this fucker has five jaws

[pulsar cobalt]

idk wat theyre actually called in other animals

[hot summit]

like that Stranger Things monster thingy? I see a similitude

[dusty tinsel]

Demigorgon

https://tenor.com/view/demogorgon-roar-roaring-stranger-things-scary-gif-26382310

[hot summit]

Yeah that thing

[hot summit]

It's mouth looks exactly like that

[vivid hemlock]

👁️

[dusty tinsel]

Oop

[lyric trellis]

That’s red

[pulsar cobalt]

oathswords

[hot summit]

NOW they look more hell-ish

[lapis oak]

duh guh bluh zuh

[fringe quiver]

i quite like that bottom left one

the way it loosk kinda molten

is very nice

[hot summit]

Yea

[pulsar cobalt]

its like olc but

more

[fringe quiver]

these are my two favorites

[silk terrace]

most of these were never submitted i think

[pulsar cobalt]

current olc for comparison

current oathsword and blood scythe for comparison too

[fringe quiver]

the best way i can describe it is that the new miracle matter aesthethic feels naturally unnatural 😭

like yeah by all means if u just mix a bunch of diff elements with no cohesion with themselves
of course they will look unnatural

[silk terrace]

oathsword doesn't use the blood scythes anymore anyway

[fringe quiver]

real quotes from real cheese from real roydev that r relevant to this chat

[lapis oak]

I still say it Old Lord Oathsword 💔

[fringe quiver]

this is in reference to old miracle aesthethic by the way

[pulsar cobalt]

also is this ashen stalactite

[fringe quiver]

it was unnatural in a really forced and aestheitcally unpleasant way while the new one is actually cohesive

[vivid hemlock]

idfk

[pulsar cobalt]

damn

the pointed edge just kinda gave ashen stalactite vibes so

[lean cave]

my guess is brimstone sword

but like

yeah its not gonna be that

unless...

[silk terrace]

hi floppa

[lean cave]

hioiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

howsx it goin

[pulsar cobalt]

brimstone swords name always makes me cry

[silk terrace]

good

[pulsar cobalt]

💔 🫗

[silk terrace]

have a thought, probably gonna dm it to you in a few because i need someone to bounce an idea off of

[lean cave]

go for it >:)

[lean cave]

but thats good to hear

[lean cave]

wdym its just so interesting and awesome wtf...

[silk terrace]

renaming it to uh

burnt knife

[lyric trellis]

Evil and fucked up Perfs sword

[lean cave]

1000 degree knife

sinister slicr

its such a great name!!!

[fringe quiver]

rename it to fire sword

weapon that does damage. new name

[lean cave]

firebrand and have it be a block tales reference...

[arctic cliff]

burnt knife LMAO

[vivid hemlock]

average syringe at the pharmacy

[lapis oak]

the fuck?

[vivid hemlock]

i love having lava directly injected into my veins

[pulsar cobalt]

rename spore knife to venomshank

[lyric trellis]

Weapon name that would be made in 2015 or 2025

[slate folio]

Could that rifle be a replacement for the nitro express rifle

They look very similar in shape and function

[silk terrace]

totally new thing

[fringe quiver]

calamity mod update !

the normal ass rifle update !

adds a new weapon:

the normal ass rifle

thats all it does

[vivid hemlock]

ggg user i know youre watching

[thick coyote]

donor moment

[earnest comet]

ART is a very unpredictable plugin so maybe the key is to use other unpredictable plugins in its place

time to make the mistake of using OTT on vocals :3

god knows british television loves to do that

[azure oak]

Tomorrow i will be drawing that miracle matter & that exo blade and noone will stop me

[lyric trellis]

I’m sure the devs will launch a meteor at you

[azure oak]

Oh no

Perhaps i will be stopped

[random ether]

was yharim ever planned to have a false mercy option at one point after his fight gets made or did i make that up

[fringe quiver]

select mercy for yharim and xeroc himself descends from the heavens and smites you down

game over

[azure oak]

Wait a second

[random ether]

corrupted character files get canonised

[azure oak]

If the miracle weapons look like that then what the hell is the returning miracle mode for exo armor gonna look like

[lapis oak]

ye

[pulsar cobalt]

we will get to see exos temporarily turn into miracle matter

🙏

also i wonder if blender beam will change

[azure oak]

I mean the exo mechs are just the exo mechs

Miracle matter is its own thing

[hot summit]

Dark (black) light instead of white light would look cool

[azure oak]

When the matter is miraculous

Wait so how toxic are those fumes

[earnest comet]

alright draedon voice is almost recreated thanks to CD

lack of proprietary bullshit is making this difficult

reason 😭

although my FX work is a little bit sloppy

[valid crypt]

Are miracle matter stuff sso?

[lapis oak]

if they can finish them in time...

[lean cave]

so full of leaks....

[azure oak]

Miracle sawblade launcher and rocket launcher surge driver are neat

[silk terrace]

leeks actually
i just send optrix pictures of scallions

[azure oak]

Byeah this approach to miracle matter looks sick

[lapis oak]

generational le... leeks...

[iron dew]

To put it simply, grow leeks and pigs for the vinegar

[brave star]

That’s a real leak here in spoiler stuff

What if there was an artificial surface biome with Miracle Matter plants and material

[azure oak]

Horrors

[brave star]

Miracle trees

Miracle slimes

[azure oak]

What would happen if you huffed the miracle fumes

[brave star]

You’d get miraculous and get miracle stems growing on you

Too much of that results in death

Unless you have some accessories that nullify miracle debuff

[cinder hearth]

Imagine if like, the place under where you kill the exo Mechs turns into a miracle matter biome

Because the exo prisms interact with the matter they come into contact with

[brave star]

Ah yea

[azure oak]

The slight miracle matter-ish stuff that forms in the exo mechs is not nearly stable enough to do anything on its own

[cinder hearth]

In current lore yeah, you need specific items and shit to stabilize the miracle matter we use for weapons and shit

But like, it could still interact with stuff

[azure oak]

Seems more like it actively retains the function of the stuff it came from rather than transforming anything

Cause the exo mechs function fine besides the miracle blight certain attacks inflict

[buoyant pulsar]

this is still the most interesting (and best looking imo) bow in calamity

clockwork bow comes close but i like ultima more

[arctic cliff]

i love that its literally just starmada but bow

[buoyant pulsar]

i actually like ultima more personally

[boreal pewter]

starmada my beloved old sprite

[arctic cliff]

these two imo are absolutely perfect

[buoyant pulsar]

yes

[valid crypt]

make starmada but sword

[lapis oak]

Donor weapon be like

[buoyant pulsar]

agree 100%

[lapis oak]

500 references

[arctic cliff]

they legit do not need a single resprite anymore, they are perfect in every way

[boreal pewter]

Ultima is slightly better executed though both have the small issue of the black parts needing to be a bit more distinct I think (like the wires on ultima are exactly the same as the metal)

[lapis oak]

what if Dia says no

[arctic cliff]

Tell Dia I will add 1 neutron to each of their atoms

[buoyant pulsar]

i guess so but the vast majority of it is so good

the wires could stand to be a similar red to the accents like at the top plate thing but i think it's honestly perfect the way it is

i wish they'd add more ball flails that aren't solar eruption clones

[agile latch]

Well the ideja

Is that besides gauss nuke, the mechs will only go miracle for their final ultimate attacks

As going there actually damages the mechs

Extremelly dangerous to be for too much time

So its a final measure

[main estuary]

in a nutshell
mb inflicting attacks is for kamikaze

[agile latch]

Its also destroy their exo prisms, that why ares discard a full on prism each nuke

(Exo prism which normally has infinite energy)

[lapis oak]

Miracle Blight attacks for Exo Twins and Thanatos confirmed!!!!

[mystic eagle]

[buoyant pulsar]

what

[mystic eagle]

I don't think Solar Eruption is a Ball Flail

[agile latch]

You will never be able to mercy him

You can agree with the guy tho and give him his fated heroic death

But you still fight to death

[valid crypt]

solar eruption isnt the same weapon type as ball flails

[mystic eagle]

What if I save&exit

[buoyant pulsar]

??? thats not what i meant lol

i meant

i wish they'd add more ball flails, instead of having a million solar eruption clones

none of these are ball flails

did i miss any

[hasty hawk]

you lose and when you reenter he has killed you

[agile latch]

Dragonpow will be

Got permission from donor

[pulsar cobalt]

most of these arent solar eruption clones theyre just mimicking old flails which didnt have the spin

[agile latch]

[lapis oak]

when ancient stuff is not updated with 1.4 vanilla mechanics

[agile latch]

It will also get improvements overall

[hasty hawk]

WAIT WE FINALLY GOT PERMISSION TO CHANGE IT?