calamity-update-talk

[empty yarrow]

In the weird route Kris just default dances to the credits

[fringe quiver]

green demon

[gritty torrent]

very deltaruinous

[pulsar cobalt]

ur pfp is very spoilerous

[vivid hemlock]

we need green demon head

[indigo fog]

Woah man this is a calamity spoiler chat not a deltarune spoiler chat

[cunning sequoia]

wdym thats fanmade gerson undertale boss fight

[fringe quiver]

green demon

@cunning sequoia u

[gritty torrent]

[fringe quiver]

ur green demon

[cunning sequoia]

green demon head

[vivid hemlock]

[mystic eagle]

I spent ages looking for this

[empty yarrow]

Its Calamity canon if you have both games installed (trust)

[mystic eagle]

Kris I think things are becoming Calamitous now

[oblique escarp]

will the calamitous vanity set be resprited to fit the calamitas resprite?

[vivid hemlock]

if you mean the scal vanity, it wouldnt fit on the terrarian since it wasnt made for the terraria npc base

[oblique escarp]

that is what I mean

[lapis oak]

Set of Calamity budget build

[lapis oak]

I should disappear from this chat when SSO drops I think

Enjoy all the new contents, do a playthrough and then after that comeback

🤔

[pulsar cobalt]

ill add so many electrons in ur body if u disappear

[lapis oak]

The duck???

[vivid hemlock]

cmt 2

[lapis oak]

But but... I wnat to find spoilers for myself

[pulsar cobalt]

you heard me

[fast vessel]

alright yall, do we think the update will come out before or after silksong releases?

[fringe quiver]

former

[vivid hemlock]

🦆

[lapis oak]

I've never done a completely blind playthrough

I should do it

in SSO

[thick coyote]

after

if rumors are true

[mystic eagle]

Before

Remember, Silksong is likely to release on September 18th or earlier

[indigo fog]

We're getting sso this year?

[brave star]

What is THAT

[fringe quiver]

nuclear terror

[agile latch]

Its john moon

[final pine]

he is stealing ze moon

[fringe quiver]

its gru

..............

[agile latch]

He appears if you offer 10 acid bunnies to the great seas

[oblique escarp]

love the mauler resprite ngl

[modern grove]

Jonathan McGuffin

[oblique escarp]

love the helicoprion inspiration

[upper hatch]

Wdm foveanator becomes lost media

[fringe quiver]

mauler is just fucked up helicoprion

[upper hatch]

Is it scrapped or it becomes a secret of some sort

[brave star]

Will the Terror scare off the other creatures to make an arena?

[agile latch]

Scrapped

[upper hatch]

Ok

[brave star]

Like make an area for you and the Terror

[modern grove]

It was sent to the moon as a sacrifice for the great moon terror

[final pine]

i'm curious as to what it would've done

tbh

[agile latch]

Jand

[flat rose]

so this is the new nuclear terror?

seems kinda

dinky

[agile latch]

This is the nuclear terror

2nd one

[vivid hemlock]

🦨

[oblique escarp]

Good lord what the heck is that?

[pearl sentinel]

so does it start as a fella

[vivid hemlock]

first phase id assume

[pearl sentinel]

then get

bane venom

[lapis oak]

don't think it's gonna be first phase

might just be the form before transform into the Nuclear Terror fight

[fringe quiver]

yea it seems like its the first phase or something

given it has the egg

[fringe quiver]

i mean

isn't that a first phase

[lapis oak]

Old Man:

[vivid hemlock]

old men are pretty strong idk

yharim is right there

[oblique escarp]

what is happening with old duke btw?

[lapis oak]

like the Old Man situation

[vivid hemlock]

replaced.

[modern grove]

Stop praying for my grandpa

[flat rose]

seems very psychadelic gasoline

[modern grove]

You're making him too strong

[stiff light]

yummy

[oblique escarp]

so basically what happened to astrageldon slime?

[vivid hemlock]

uh

[brave star]

What exactly is happening to the Terror?

[vivid hemlock]

kinda

[lapis oak]

become Nucleous

[vivid hemlock]

redesigned and reworked.

[stiff light]

gone

what the terror

likt the teror lade

[vivid hemlock]

nuclear terror

a miniboss for an event

[brave star]

I meant by the small guy with the circle thing connecting him and the other side having a monstrosity

[lapis oak]

mod kill him

[vivid hemlock]

destroy

[fringe quiver]

ship of theseus...

[pulsar cobalt]

i like how old duke is the one being joked about theseusd

when fucking

[hazy pine]

Spoiler alert; I'm in the next idpate

[pulsar cobalt]

nuclear terror is right there

[vivid hemlock]

old duke was the first

silly

[fringe quiver]

they're both ships of theseus

and yeah old duke came first

[pulsar cobalt]

old duke is having ONE change

[fringe quiver]

one?

[pulsar cobalt]

and the rest are original additions

[fringe quiver]

you mean

[stiff light]

but nuclear terror was cute before

[fringe quiver]

the design

the fight

the name

[lavish otter]

Lore, design, name...

[pulsar cobalt]

fishron -> not a fishron

[pearl sentinel]

652 - Ceaseless Void now stays still during Dark Energy phase unless the player runs too far away, and moved the current timed movement in Dark Energy phase to FTW. - Done
hey wait this is still happening right

please say yes

[lapis oak]

reverted now just because you said that

[pearl sentinel]

ik a lot of planned boss ai stuff changed when fab left

[fringe quiver]

literally everything about old duke except the basis of his lore is being changed

and the music i guess theres that too

[fringe quiver]

this is massively dumbing it down tsuki...

i could say that nuclear terror is just

shrimp -> nnot a shrimp

💥

[vivid hemlock]

terror is getting way less changes than old duke

[pearl sentinel]

[lavish otter]

And there's less to change really

[vivid hemlock]

that too

its a miniboss

[lavish otter]

Nuclear Terror doesn't have much

[lapis oak]

boss of minibosses

[vivid hemlock]

best miniboss

still a miniboss smh

x120 electrons

[lapis oak]

the final miniboss to ends it all

wtfff

[fringe quiver]

meld...

[lavish otter]

Soon to be dethroned by 💕the dumpster💕

My unseen beloved

[fringe quiver]

dumpster is pre hm

smhhhh

[vivid hemlock]

dumpster

[brave star]

Dumpster

[vivid hemlock]

literally gets demoted to a normal enemy post-polter

[lavish otter]

It's post ML in my heart

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[brave star]

Garbage Area miniboss

[pulsar cobalt]

my point is that nt is having a lot more theseusd than od

[lavish otter]

It is not, no

[fringe quiver]

not rly tbh

[pulsar cobalt]

and by a lot more i mean

[dense sundial]

i think i heard a little around that the music could also go somewhere else

[pulsar cobalt]

nuclear terror is having everything changed

[pearl sentinel]

@agile latch do you know if this is still happening

[fringe quiver]

they're both having about the same amount of changes ngl

[lavish otter]

And again, "everything" doesn't amount to much comparatively

Old Duke is more significant than Nuclear Terror, so there's more to be changed, and basically all of it is in one way or another

[vivid hemlock]

yk why are we even debating this in the first place lmao

[lavish otter]

Because it's fun

[vivid hemlock]

it doesnt really matter how much is getting changed, its how much better theyll be

[lavish otter]

I wouldn't be a Calamity fan if I wasn't pointlessly argumentative

[uncut briar]

as long as its good who cares

^ rational dismissive opinion

[fathom girder]

CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[uncut briar]

i think old duke needs way more changes to be interesting

^personal biased opinion

[fathom girder]

isn't it still in the plans for him to be completely reworked?

[dull heart]

the constant desire to spoil things

[lapis oak]

👁️

[fathom girder]

what if you... spoiled the entire mod....

that would be crazy...

[uncut briar]

fft

guys… What if i… Spoiled…?

[fathom girder]

urgh... I'm gonna spoil...

[uncut briar]

-The Spoillrer

[fast vessel]

why does it have arms?

[pearl sentinel]

hey doze the cv dark spheres change is staying right

[pearl sentinel]

its a creature

[wise gale]

🙏

[brave star]

La creatura

[fringe quiver]

why not

do you think it'd look better without them

the very clearly lizard-inspired design

[brave star]

Them stubby arms

[shell sapphire]

[uncut briar]

i like the stubby arms

theyre goofy

cal needs more goofy

[frozen shore]

dude, i went to watch the patch note coverage video from Mura and this guy is still talking about it 😭

[vivid hemlock]

somethings never change

[thick coyote]

I dont even know why this person is still angry, they're adding whips

[pulsar cobalt]

i love how he used a fucking post triple nerfed firecracker on yharon, got essentially the same time as kalei and said "yea its fine"

[molten grove]

wer taking too long…

[frozen shore]

devs, please add like 100 whips and remove them in less than a week on a hotfix stating each individual removal to completely kill the whip fans

[pulsar cobalt]

like ?????

[frozen shore]

your too too 😊

[frozen shore]

lmao

[vivid hemlock]

literally

[arctic cliff]

...what?

it's as useful as... kaleidoscope?

[pulsar cobalt]

no not at all

it has much worse range

but

it still got around the same time

which is its own fucking problem

[solid shell]

any news on yharim boss fight?

[thick coyote]

no

[solid shell]

thank you, returning to hibernation

[valid crypt]

The guy will possibly be the last thing added to calamity

[solid shell]

i thought xeroc would be the last thing, followed by Noxus

[thick coyote]

neither of those are even guaranteed to be added

[valid crypt]

They could be later then yharim but arent guaranteed

[solid shell]

well i only care about yharim, and i'm fine with waiting

[rose radish]

well guess what, a lot of comments under this video were actually about whips this time so

[buoyant orbit]

i'd like to see Xeroc........
just so we can kick his ass for being an ill intentioned biach

[pulsar cobalt]

we dont even know if they were ill intentioned

also

we wont be able to kick their ass either

[pearl sentinel]

we will fight them but we are not going to beat them

i dont remember who said it but long ago

somebody said it was basically just gonna be xeroc saying "okay thanks for tickling my shit bye now"

i feel like im misremembering

that sounds way worse than i remembered

[rose laurel]

Whips are still pretty contentious in Dev but I think the consensus right now is basically just

[pulsar cobalt]

sparring match

[buoyant orbit]

so we can't slap the guy that ended with the last dragon 😔

[rose laurel]

It's impossible to fight Whips

[buoyant orbit]

sadge

[pearl sentinel]

yeah sparring match

[vivid hemlock]

yhapaganda goes crazy

[pearl sentinel]

what

also yeah another person yharim propaganda worked on

gg

[buoyant orbit]

idk if lore has been updated but that's what I understood from it lol

if not I need a check up

[pulsar cobalt]

"this god is bad" -guy who fucking hates gods

[rose laurel]

No matter what people think about Whips, Vanilla has solidified that they are a part of the class and we can't softly remove them from the game

Begrudingly for some, they have to be a part of the class

[pearl sentinel]

should reread the lore doc

[valid crypt]

Our source for xeroc being bad is the most biased bitch ever
-# xeroc has the sun as their power while we have weird yellow metal, not really fair…

[pearl sentinel]

Yharim is

the bad guy

[vivid hemlock]

yharim commissioned warcrime machines lmao

[pearl sentinel]

man i wonder why theres a flamethrower on skeletron prime

[buoyant orbit]

i need the doc, I like the lore of this shit but i guess i'm outdated lmfao

[pearl sentinel]

its pinned in #lore-discussion

[buoyant orbit]

hell yea

[pulsar cobalt]

lmao??????

[hard copper]

Id like to see whipless summoner still be somewhat viable, that would probably end with whip damage being nerfed super hard though, so theyre just tag damage/effects as well as flasks. Still rewarding getting closer to the boss, but not enough that they are required.

[vivid hemlock]

🔥

[valid crypt]

Yharim specifically asking for john warcrimes devision to be turned to john warcrimes machine

[vivid hemlock]

dia yharim sprite spotted

[pearl sentinel]

i like how yharon is the one asking us

[brave star]

Is the Yharim sprite the real sprite?

[pearl sentinel]

yharon

[thick coyote]

oh are we having another person whos saying "nah id win" to the obscenely powerful god that defeated without much effort the guy who is our final challenge?

love that

[rose laurel]

Yeah we made a Yharim sprite 45 years before the guy is ready for no reason

[agile latch]

, yharim will take a while to get real so idk

its by dia though (its on fables and i think on a sheet dia posted in calart)

so its a public thing already

[vivid hemlock]

i like how it was just

posted in fablescord by dia

no context

[agile latch]

the context is that

i asked him to do it because it would be funny

[thick coyote]

and shadow dropped it in a meme in the spoiler channel

oh

[rocky dawn]

new crafting recipes leaked

[agile latch]

when i was in fables vc with tobias and dia

[thick coyote]

it was posted somewhere else

[agile latch]

beloved fables

[thick coyote]

lole

[agile latch]

[thick coyote]

least complicated minecraft mod

[pearl sentinel]

pruple guy

[hard copper]

the king in yellow

[rocky dawn]

literally just Exo weapons

[pearl sentinel]

i always forget, have Yharim and Xeroc fought before?

[thick coyote]

you mean the weapons you have 90% of the materials for if youve not been trashing items?

[thick coyote]

im pretty sure its mentioned in game

[vivid hemlock]

miracle matter is not as complex as fargos souls soul accessories i think

[agile latch]

the miracle weapons

exo weapons are the ones dropped by exo mechs

unless you mean those

[valid crypt]

Yharim knows of xerocs power so probably

[rocky dawn]

Yeah, doesn’t make it less complex

[thick coyote]

exo blade needs a name change to stop this confusion so badly

[agile latch]

well hopefully tobias and dia new miracle stuff

and the exo mechs gear reworks will help with the distinction

[rocky dawn]

today I learned

[agile latch]

but they are 2 separate sets

[brave star]

It’s the official sprite? No drawbacks?

(Sorry if I’m being a detective or something with this stuff)

[pearl sentinel]

why would they make the sprite 45 years before he comes out

[urban cloak]

its just something made for fun

[pearl sentinel]

and why would they show it

[lapis oak]

Tringle just answered it Cosmore

your detective is not working the right way

[brave star]

Oh ok

[rocky dawn]

cosmorbin time

[brave star]

True tho

Cosmorbius

[vivid hemlock]

a lot of cosmore's questions could be answered by backreading

[pearl sentinel]

why does nobody in this server backread

[brave star]

Sometimes I forget how bad I am at looking back at previous messages

[rocky dawn]

I learned about 22 by searching and scrolling

though I don’t think I figured out what the straw that broke the camel’s back was

[brave star]

I learned about it when I was in the server and saw some of the announcements stuff about it

[vivid hemlock]

fabsol

[brave star]

F* * * *l

[pulsar cobalt]

i think they meant an actual incident not the overall reasoning behind it

like why suddenly so many wanted to leave at the same time

[brave star]

The word got censored bc it’s now a tier 5 swear word

[rocky dawn]

That type of answer is why I searched instead of asked. The who is clear, not the how

[brave star]

If anyone were to say it uncensored, they’d get the ultra broccoli on their throat that acts like soap in ur mouth

[lavish otter]

I know the bottom section of hair is just the end of his plume, but I can't not see it as a tail

[vivid hemlock]

probably should ask someone knowledgable then

[brave star]

In terms of the Yharim sprite in general btw, it looks fucking epic

[vivid hemlock]

like a dev on the team who was around

[brave star]

Would have him as a boxing coach

[rocky dawn]

I don’t plan on it, I don’t need to bother anyone with it

[vivid hemlock]

👍

[rocky dawn]

Most of my curiosity was satiated

[dull heart]

i don't know either what specifically broke 22

my guess is that as soon as one person got far enough it chain reactioned

[buoyant orbit]

i just caught up with the current lore
sheesh yeah can't wait to kick Yharim's ass 💀

man would i'd love to see even a tiny pixel of the dragon's aerie concept

[pearl sentinel]

congrats on being unradicalized from the yharmy

[raw pendant]

Everyone wanted old duke removed but fab said nahh

And then there was something else related to nihilus

[buoyant orbit]

bro tried to fight the gods cuz of a grudge and ended fucking up a "balanced" world

basically god of war

[vivid hemlock]

funny thing

he killed the god of war

and we fight its dead remains

[urban cloak]

(you mean nautilus right)

[raw pendant]

Yeahh mb

Wrong name

[bold rivet]

Which boss is that?

[raw pendant]

Similar tho

[pearl sentinel]

perf

[bold rivet]

Oh

[buoyant orbit]

I haven't made it far but i definitely heard the current Old Duke is far from being a fun boss

[urban cloak]

nihilus soa KILLED half the calamity dev team...

[agile latch]

sir nautilus

[pearl sentinel]

darth nihilus KILLED 22 calamity developers

[vivid hemlock]

😔

[agile latch]

basically iban play made a fight for the cnidrion miniboss (sir nautilus that you can fight in fables now)

fabsol tought it was too much, blew up the situation, started backtalking iban and even went to iban dm to demand him to leave the mod

and then stuff went

(there is a lot more to 22 tho, but i would say sir nautilus was what blew it up more)

[pearl sentinel]

and look at where we are now

[buoyant orbit]

can't wait for Cnidrion to get a proper treatment

[pearl sentinel]

cnidrion miniboss

old duke being replaced

[arctic cliff]

LMAO

that is insane

[thick coyote]

can we get minibosses that are actually minibosses and not "big normal enemy" now

thatd be nice

[urban cloak]

👍

[vivid hemlock]

yeah thats gonna happen

[arctic cliff]

the fact that in the end cnidrion is still becoming a miniboss with actual importance is insanely funny

[vivid hemlock]

some are getting osts too

[thick coyote]

finally

the universal collapse meme

comes full circle

[arctic cliff]

Seahorse Scrutiny

at last

[vivid hemlock]

seahorse scrutiny wont be used

[thick coyote]

obviously not

[pearl sentinel]

thats a joke 10 second loop

[thick coyote]

but the idea of a cindrion theme

[buoyant orbit]

the more i learn the more disappointed i get on Fab
I was unaware on how stuck the mod was before he left the project
bro couldn't even take a suggestion

[arctic cliff]

Imagine if it got extended into a full theme

[vivid hemlock]

i love 10 second ost

[thick coyote]

is what i meant

[arctic cliff]

or updated

jeez

[pseudo pine]

thank goodness he's out

[arctic cliff]

im genuinely hyped for goddamn seahorse theme

[pseudo pine]

Ozzatron is hopefully a better manager than him

[pearl sentinel]

its uh, its- its like poetry, it uh, it rhymes

[vivid hemlock]

cnidrion is actually a sea horse now

[pseudo pine]

there is so much potential for Calamity

[buoyant orbit]

rip seahorse scrutiny

[arctic cliff]

i mean, from what i've heard, he already was a pretty good lead dev

[raw pendant]

It's like a couple minutes calm down

[pseudo pine]

yeah
it bet the dev team did a vote on who would be the best owner for Calamity and Ozzatron was the one who won

[pulsar cobalt]

its a sea horse based on a seahorse

[buoyant orbit]

he was picked specifically cuz he was who carried the dev team as far as i know

[vivid hemlock]

i meant seahorse scrutiny

[buoyant orbit]

like

[pulsar cobalt]

it was near unanimous iirc

[raw pendant]

Seahorse scrutiny is not being used

[pseudo pine]

it is only 13 seconds

[urban cloak]

fabsol sorta just passed ownership over to him since everyone was in agreement that if fab ever exploded ozz would pick up the torch of mod owner

so yeah as tsuki said it was pretty much unanimous lmao

[vivid hemlock]

i know, we were just joking about it

[pseudo pine]

not very long for any boss or miniboss theme

[raw pendant]

I see

[buoyant orbit]

seahorse scrutiny being scrapped like the many other versions of the DoG theme 💔

[dull heart]

it was unanimous, ozz made sure that he discussed concerns with any dissenting voters before actually being owner

well, before accepting the title fully

[pearl sentinel]

what if when yharim fight releases the calamity bells transition into bonetrousle

and the true mastermind reveals himself

[pulsar cobalt]

funny

[buoyant orbit]

🪷

[urban cloak]

yharim theme will have the freedom motif

[pulsar cobalt]

i love how every dev just decided "yea its ozz"

[urban cloak]

🤫

[pulsar cobalt]

yharim is a shadow crystal holder??????

[vivid hemlock]

the roaring knight

[buoyant orbit]

Yharim is defeated and he takes off the helmet before passing away or smth dramatic

[pearl sentinel]

deltarune players when they fight the roaring knight in chapter 7 and the freedom leitmotif transitions into spider dance

[thick coyote]

never

they will never show his face has been said

[buoyant orbit]

can we just

[arctic cliff]

i think showing someone's face, even if it looks like garbage, is a good way to humanize a villain

[buoyant orbit]

I think he's alright as he is rn

[thick coyote]

at this point yharim has the master chief effect

[agile latch]

his face is the helmet

[thick coyote]

if you show his face you kinda ruin the mystery

[buoyant orbit]

canw e just

kick Draedon's ass

[vivid hemlock]

nope

[buoyant orbit]

tbh if Yharim dies i bet he would just run away to never be seen again

[thick coyote]

draedons effectively immortal

[pulsar cobalt]

i think its fine not humanising him considering how awful of a person he is

[thick coyote]

if we ever got close to actually killing him hed just fuck off to another planet

[vivid hemlock]

also yharim is basicallly the armor

[buoyant orbit]

props to Yharon for sticking with a horrible person

[arctic cliff]

although honestly

[buoyant orbit]

smth smth loyal pet

[pearl sentinel]

more like yharim stuck with yharon

[agile latch]

yharon is a horrible person

or well dragon

[rose laurel]

Ok but lowkey given his entire thing is "Destiny is for the weak"

[thick coyote]

Yharon is arguably more of a villian than Yharim becuase he created Yharim

[agile latch]

both are as evil as each other

[vivid hemlock]

well he kinda created that person

[rose laurel]

Yharim is The Knight???

[buoyant orbit]

shit ur right lmfao

[silk terrace]

yharim = knight = papyrus

[agile latch]

the fate of yharon just being a flying cardboard box rn

[vivid hemlock]

holy shit the auric dragons are the titans

[agile latch]

so he has zero personality ingame

[rose laurel]

Holy shit

[agile latch]

every boss has zero personality rn which sucks

besides like draedon and scal i guess

even then they dont show it much in the fight besides dialogue

[buoyant orbit]

Draedon is terrible but that's p much why i love him

[rose laurel]

Yharon is by far the hardest Boss to show his character because not only does he not speak, he's also y'know

A Dragon

[agile latch]

you can do a lot to show personality

[pearl sentinel]

clearly yharim is ||gerson||

[agile latch]

the way it moves, its animation

even the fight design

[upper cosmos]

why is it a car

[agile latch]

it being a dragon dont incapacitate that at all

principally with the design he has

[pulsar cobalt]

make yharon speak in draconic and my life is yours

add a draconic dictionary ingame

[vivid hemlock]

can we dissolve tsuki

[rose laurel]

Yeah I didn't say it was impossible

[buoyant orbit]

the closest you get to a character is the phase 2 theme
outside that it's just a dragon

[rose laurel]

I said it was the hardest

:p

[agile latch]

it isnt even the hardest

principally with this new design

[thick coyote]

i think an issue with Yharon is that everything about the crusades is attributed to Yharim and nothing to Yharon, if Yharon had more of the acts attributed to him then youd not have people thinking Yharon is "not a bad guy hes jsut too loyal to the wrong person"

[rose laurel]

Oh God Triangle I just realized

Triangle

[upper cosmos]

Yharon canonically airdrops a karaoke machine and that replaces the second half of the fight

[rose laurel]

The Old Duke can't speak human tongue

[agile latch]

and dialogue tbh isnt really the proper way to go, or well only dialogue.

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[upper cosmos]

epic characterererererization

[agile latch]

if you give cal clone dialogue it wouldnt really help give it much of a character

if its still just a floating projectile throwing eyeball

(cardboard box)

[trail oriole]

old duke dialog system

[agile latch]

it will be real..

you will have to decypher his riddles

[vivid hemlock]

the palace

[pulsar cobalt]

DRACONIC

LANGUAGE

IN CALAMITY

(REAL)

[agile latch]

he is the king of the offshoots ,he can just use magic to translate it or idk

[rose laurel]

(This is not a problem but it's funny to think about)

[agile latch]

he read books

[pulsar cobalt]

TINGLE TANGLE MAKE IT REAL AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[urban cloak]

solve my riddles three and my palace to where you'll gain entry

[buoyant orbit]

i'm one of those people 😔
Yharon just seems too loyal cuz tbh we don't get much insight of him other than "he saved Yharim's ass and now wants to kill gods with him"

[pearl sentinel]

close enough, welcome back bionicle

[trail oriole]

when the old duke talks to much so you lowkey just eat him

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-satoru-gojo-gojo-floating-gif-13262904807689696418

[agile latch]

he saved yharim ass and indocrinated yharim into killing gods for him

yharon is the original hater

[buoyant orbit]

LMFAO

[rocky dawn]

Hungry Birds 3 confirmed

[rose laurel]

I'm so hungry I could eat the Old Duke

[buoyant orbit]

i can live with that

[thick coyote]

Yharon left out a lot of details on why everyone was so eager to kill the dragons

isnt it weird that all the human settlements are UNDERGROUND

think about that

[buoyant orbit]

dergs too dangerous to live around them

[lyric trellis]

We do get old duke’s heart so we should eat that

[buoyant orbit]

lo

[lavish otter]

This is very interesting ifnormation...

[rose laurel]

This is basically Avatar of Emptiness actually

[agile latch]

technically there is already a old duke dialogue system

coming in SSO

technically..

[vivid hemlock]

rebecca is an avatar of emptiness

[lyric trellis]

Important accessory for lore

[fringe quiver]

the scion's curio

..................

[agile latch]

but i do want the old duke reborn as a lotus flower to have proper dialogue and stuff (i might try to design a dialogue ui box for it too later) since its very important for how he will work

[vivid hemlock]

YES

eat babies

[agile latch]

just like the gods

[lavish otter]

Ooohhh, is that where the "reborn as a lotus flower" thing came from?

[rose laurel]

As I said this isn't a problem btw

I just thought it was funny to mention how, yeah

[agile latch]

i mean if we want to be fancy

[rose laurel]

Dragons can't speak human tongue lol

[agile latch]

we can make his dialogue be like

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[agile latch]

draconic language symbols initially

then its translated

[fringe quiver]

wait no yeah that'd be cool

[agile latch]

(he is using magic from a artifact or something to translate it)

[rose laurel]

God imagine we force every player to translate the dialogue?

[lavish otter]

damn

[thick coyote]

outer wilds...

[agile latch]

would be funny to have yharon have dialogue too

but its all draconic language stuff

[lyric trellis]

Another use for codebreaker

[agile latch]

although yharon dont seem very talkative, with the player atleast

[lyric trellis]

Cause it needs them clearly

[agile latch]

character wise

or well

he is quite the yapper in the song

[rose laurel]

Yeah I don't think he'd say anything mid-fight

[agile latch]

but he is talking to yharim there

[buoyant orbit]

can't translate wtf the dergs are saying unless certain item is found

[rose laurel]

At most a very loud "FUCK YOU"

[lavish otter]

Ahem
THIS-

[urban cloak]

on-screen rotjd lyrics but they're in draconic language...

[pulsar cobalt]

give duke fishron dialogue but because old notduke is later in progression and u only get the translation artifact then, u have to refight him

[buoyant orbit]

quick doubt

with the old duke redesign

[vivid hemlock]

where can i fund this

[buoyant orbit]

is it even considered old duke anymore

[vivid hemlock]

well

[fringe quiver]

given duke fishron is like not sapient can all of his dialogue just be like

[agile latch]

it isnt old duke anymore

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[fringe quiver]

"I WANT WORM"

[buoyant orbit]

is that guy gonna keep its name

[pulsar cobalt]

its just

[fringe quiver]

"LET ME EAT WORM"

[vivid hemlock]

its being replaced now

[pulsar cobalt]

old

[fringe quiver]

"GIVE ME WORM"

[agile latch]

as i said only thing being kept is that its a king of the offshoots

[fringe quiver]

"I HUNGRY EAT WORM"

"GIVE ME WORM I EAT"

[agile latch]

and a evil character somewhat

the rest is all new

[thick coyote]

hoenstly i dont know if Yharon needs more personality, you can gather a lot from the lore items and the way yharim talks about things. its not really in your face but i think thats fine.

though having him actually ambush the player like the fight is supposed to go in lore would be nice

[agile latch]

only having stuff in lore items is not fine tho

he should show his personality with the fight

[upper cosmos]

Yeah Yharon probably wouldn't talk to you during the fight, he's not trying to any ideological statement or show off he's trying to Kill You Because Yharim Is A Fucking Idiot

[agile latch]

rn he is just a flying cardboard piece that shoots fireballs

by giving him character i dont mean dialogue

[pulsar cobalt]

his personality is that hes dense

[rose laurel]

Ok jokes aside having Yharon monologue in draconic during the Phase 2 transition would go hard

[pulsar cobalt]

[agile latch]

but the way he moves, his fight design

his attacks

[buoyant orbit]

as you said, you can show that through animations n fight style

[raw falcon]

if i were to blend old duke into a sausage and grilled and ate him with bbc sauce, how would he taste?

[thick coyote]

That goes without saying? I said that like that because i thought it was a known fact that the story told in lore items will be moved to other methods

[vivid hemlock]

rotten flesh

[trail oriole]

if yharon spins around with code in the new rework im killing the entire dev team

[agile latch]

disgusting meat

[agile latch]

true

[pulsar cobalt]

animate it urself then

[rose laurel]

Fryzahh, make Yharon spin 180 degrees during the fight

[urban cloak]

roger

[fringe quiver]

make yharon spin but like

[pulsar cobalt]

LMAO

[fringe quiver]

3d

[raw falcon]

Fryzahh, make yharon face the camera

[pulsar cobalt]

make yharon spin like cheese code

[buoyant orbit]

sweet duke fishron AI <3

[fringe quiver]

add graphic shaders to yharon that make him 3d

[agile latch]

its like if for example tenna deltarune didnt move in the fight, its attacks in the fight were all white balls and he didnt talk or have his animations

[rocky dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/xploshi-hungry-birds-angry-birds-cursed-gif-27593769

[rose laurel]

Make Yharon spin but really slowly

Like

[fringe quiver]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027167403324493884/1382504711500075098/cheese_code_2.gif

[agile latch]

after you kill tenna you get a magical item that lore dumps you on what he is

[rose laurel]

He starts the fight normally

[agile latch]

that is 90% of cal bosses rn

[vivid hemlock]

can we kill yharon tornadoes please

[rocky dawn]

I alway forgor

[agile latch]

the duke fishron ones

[lavish otter]

Fair enough honestly
Then the current solution? Have more loredumps later in the game

(the dreaded Draetalk...)

[rose laurel]

And by the end he is upside down

[fringe quiver]

the lore items (whispers whatever) should less so be sources of explicit worldbuilding and more so just a way to see yharim's thoughts on things
which honestly they mostly are rn its just that due to how little sources of lore we have they end up feeling like the former rather than the latter

[urban cloak]

the nadoes could defintely either die or not be carbon copies of sharknadoes yea

[agile latch]

lore dumps

anyway with the stuff i plan to work on

i want it to have a lot of story telling integrated into it

[fringe quiver]

like i think the whispers become alot better just by

[agile latch]

stuff the player can interact

[fringe quiver]

adding other sources of lore and narrative

[agile latch]

and learn from in a intuitive manner that is not a wall of text

[fringe quiver]

because then the whispers actually fill their purpose

which is to just be a way to see the main villain's thought on things

they aren't characterization for the boss u killed

[agile latch]

proper dialogue, from the enviroment (the way the ambient, as in structure/ biome is built), the design of the character itself

[fringe quiver]

they're characterization for yharim

[agile latch]

etc

yea

[trail oriole]

me when i kill someone and THEN i have to learn why they were a bad guy

[agile latch]

if the lore items become just yharim perspective on stuff (they should focus more on yharim character than info dump in my opnion)

[trail oriole]

my morals are in the right place

[agile latch]

it would be a great way to build him

[pulsar cobalt]

yharims talk about biomes actually being when you enter the biome would certainly help

[fringe quiver]

yea i agree

i think they mosly are leaning on that direction but they could be tweaked to sorta double down on it yea

[raw falcon]

honestly something like the AoE ice nados could work for those

[fringe quiver]

i reckon the only reason theyre so worldbuidous is bc they wanted a way to establish concepts early on

[thick coyote]

"theres no story what do you mean you play this mod for the story" people say to me as they walk through the non-random structure and dont consider any of the implications in its design

💢

[fringe quiver]

and now that they have other wys of doing that

they could probably be tweaked maybe

[lavish otter]

Agreed honestly
I know I just joked about Draetalk, but honestly, I think that's much more fitting for entirely informational loredumps

[agile latch]

yharim lore items shouldnt be taken as the holy grail of info or only source, they are just yharim insight of the situation, deeply biased and trying to force a view into the player or a message

[rose laurel]

As time goes on we'll eventually solve all that because as I always say, Lore Items currently carry the weight of being essentially the only place the story is talked about

[buoyant orbit]

I love Triangle's idea I just hope it could be implemented in a way you can't just go and miss completely

[agile latch]

he should focus more on these than like explaining what desert scourge is and what it eats for example

he isnt a biologist

that is for the bestiary

[thick coyote]

i think Draetalk being a huge loredump only looks so bad because the rest of the game is lacking lore. when theres more lore throughout the game itll look less bad imo

[raw falcon]

tbh an npc who fact checks all yhar lore items would be pretty funny

[rose laurel]

Ok but him always being wrong about biology is funny

[agile latch]

we should double down on it

tbf

it do be a funny bit of characterization

[rose laurel]

I agree lol

[lavish otter]

He should be the common Red Nation user

[rose laurel]

It's both funny but also like

Yeah, it makes sense

[agile latch]

and we should have a credible source to go with it tho first

[pulsar cobalt]

the only biology thing hes knowledgable on is dragons

[agile latch]

like bestiary i guess

[raw falcon]

what are the chances draedon gave the exo mechs actual names out of sheer spite?

[agile latch]

so you see yharim is just telling bullshit about the stuff

[urban cloak]

we could also split it up between npcs

[thick coyote]

Would be funny if enemies that yharim said stuff about that was wrong had a "fact checky" vibe to their text LOL

[urban cloak]

like allow the player to head to amidias and tell him what yharim said about ds

[rose laurel]

Yharim feeds you objectively false information all the time, him being always wrong about biology is a good way for players to go "wait who's right and who's wrong?"

[dense sundial]

the bestiary doesn't quite exactly read like a credible source either, i think? it's more common knowledge and folk tales kind of info

[agile latch]

or make the actual creature behaviour in the fight

go totally agaisnt what yharim says

[urban cloak]

that should be first priority

[thick coyote]

"no yharim, Desert Scourge is obviously not a filter feeder look at its JAW"

[agile latch]

like yharim saying scourge is a peaceful filter feeder that only feeds on nutrients on the sand and cactuses

and then you just see it going on a rampage slaughtering and eating antlions

(the ravenous pest..)

[lavish otter]

But yeah, it is funny to imagine that he's not just lying to you all the time, sometimes he's also just kind of dumb and is pretending to know more than he does

[thick coyote]

fun fact i got baited by this earlier today

i didnt know yharim being wrong about biology was supposed to be a thing

so i took what he said as fact with DS

lmao

[agile latch]

besides scourge

[lavish otter]

There's probably a good reason that he started falling apart after kicking Draedon out

[agile latch]

is there more examples rn of yharim being dumb on biology?

[vivid hemlock]

weaver

[urban cloak]

"its just a filter feeder" as it drives by and swallows 5 stormlions in the blink of an eye

[buoyant orbit]

love seeing the devs just discussing ideas
bet most of it won't make it to the mod but it's fun to see

[thick coyote]

thats weird to say lol

[agile latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/846811296976732173/1047022730194726912/caption.gif

[buoyant orbit]

well i'm sorry if it comes out as weird 😭

[dull heart]

it filtered the life out of the stormlions

[vivid hemlock]

oh god not this gif

[agile latch]

it will filter your life too

[urban cloak]

true!

[vivid hemlock]

easiest way to bait activity in calart

[buoyant orbit]

just happy for the devs brainstorming

[fringe quiver]

it filtered the life out of the local desertic arthropod population.........

[vivid hemlock]

talk about asset submissions

[dense sundial]

uptight yharim may or may not be funny
something like "I recommend making physical contact with individuals of the monocotelydonous genus of organisms commonly known as grasses" (grasses aren't a genus)

[agile latch]

everytime i see this gif, the urge to kill asset submissions increase

[fringe quiver]

i imagine desert scourge probably like

mostly hunted crustaceans and stuff

before the incineration

given its main prey now are insects

the crab eater

[thick coyote]

whats the context on asset submissions

never heard of this until now

[dull heart]

clearly it hunted deserts

[buoyant orbit]

same

lmfao

[rose laurel]

The only problem is that rewriting shit right now would be a bad idea because we have nowhere to fit a bunch of the shit in Draetalk for example

[buoyant orbit]

got hit with the gif and i'm like ??? 😭

[agile latch]

well yea it ate mostly small crustaceans and insects

that why it also has a longue tongue

[pulsar cobalt]

asset submissions calart i think

[rose laurel]

If we rewrote everything then a lot of information ingame rn would just

[pulsar cobalt]

a lot of things just get

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/mouth-pangolin-tongue-eating-gif-16443699

[rose laurel]

Disappear

[pulsar cobalt]

rejected

[agile latch]

so he can eat creatures that hides in burrows

like crabs, ants etc

[thick coyote]

it has a long tounge? new detail about new sprite dropped?

tounge attack?

[agile latch]

[thick coyote]

(joke)

[agile latch]

(i already talked about it before)

[thick coyote]

oh ok

[agile latch]

rewrite it as stuff go

[dull heart]

y'know what else has a long tongue

[agile latch]

when we get them in their final proper form

like finishing desert scourge and sunken sea stuff properly

[fringe quiver]

did desert scourge feed on the hermititans.............

[hard copper]

saint rainworld

[buoyant orbit]

gonna make my interpretation of the dragon aerie, submit it and get rejected but it's fine cuz at least it'll be seen

[fringe quiver]

guys no way

[agile latch]

no..

[dull heart]

an anteater

[agile latch]

they are too chunguses

[fringe quiver]

fair enough

theyre fatasses

[rose laurel]

Space is probably the one thing we'll always have problems with because we just

Can't show that lmaooo

[fringe quiver]

nuclear terror clearly

[agile latch]

do you see scourge eating a crabulon?

[fringe quiver]

hes from space

[agile latch]

(a healthy crabulon with its proper shell)

[fringe quiver]

probably not no

[dull heart]

crab fight

[fringe quiver]

unless its like

a juvenile

in which case yea probably

[buoyant orbit]

not yet

[agile latch]

why did i write crabulon twice

[rose laurel]

Crabulon eating a Crabulon

🔥✍️

[fringe quiver]

i didnt evne register that lol

[agile latch]

i think crabs do canibalism tho

so that could be possible

[fringe quiver]

they do yeah

i can see like

a really big hermititan eating a smaller subadult one...

[fast vessel]

so if we want to make a controbution to the mod, how does it work with the public repo?

[thick coyote]

what

[buoyant orbit]

they'd destroy the underground trying to eat each other

[dull heart]

could you see leviathan eating crabulon

[urban cloak]

that might make for a cool easter egg in game ngl

[agile latch]

yes but they are not on the same ecosystem

[dull heart]

you submit a pull request with the changes you made

[agile latch]

anyway a lot of sunken sea creatures died in the incineration

what you see currently on the biome is a fraction of its diversity

but for example on shores, we have the giga shrimps

[buoyant orbit]

no wonder there are different layers of it

[agile latch]

that DS could eat

[fast vessel]

what kind of changes do you guys like? Is it like I design new content, or is it like optimizations and things like that? just curious.

[agile latch]

scavengers came to ilmeris after the incineration

so they werent present before

nomad crab species

(some went to work with crabulon.. the crabucaneers)

[vivid hemlock]

👁️

[rose laurel]

Also Triangle we should probably talk to Ozz later about rewriting all this shit I don't want to jumpscare the guy with "hey we're writing everything!" when he's the main proofreader

[agile latch]

i expect these to be spoon feeds tho as we work on the stuff

[rose laurel]

Yeah I just want to like

Tell him about what we plan

[agile latch]

a lot of the stuff we have for the mod rn in writting were made in old times with the evil fabsulian restrictons

[buoyant orbit]

suggestions i think

[agile latch]

we are in a diferent economy now

[dull heart]

usually the rare public PRs are things that don't change a ton - bug fixes, Chalice HP Indicator, etc.

I don't think they're explicitly limited, but the more it changes the more likely it is to conflict with either existing changes or the team's vision for the mod

like you could just PR an entire weapon rework

[agile latch]

was a weapon rework pr even made

or accepted

[urban cloak]

dont think one was ever made

[agile latch]

follows the same rules as asset subs then

which is funny

[rose laurel]

I think the only time anything like that ever happened

Was with Superradiant Slaughterer

[urban cloak]

sylvestaff actually nvm

[agile latch]

weapon rework or full redesigns are much much harder to get in

i think the only user to get one in was dia

and dia became a dev right after

(elemental saw launcher)

[urban cloak]

but that was with express permission given to lucille to implement it and have it pred

[fast vessel]

are things like boss changes likely to conflict? Im just curious if so much stuff is being changed about current bosses that any change to bosses wouldnt be added.

[urban cloak]

don't think anyone else has just straight up reworked a weapon and sent it

[rose laurel]

And Sylvestaff was moreso a rebranding

[agile latch]

boss changes are likely to conflict yea

i do think they problably would also be very hardly accepted

unless its like a bug fix

[urban cloak]

do not ever pr a boss change to the public github it will most definitely not be accepted

[dull heart]

boss changes are very likely to conflict with stuff

[arctic cliff]

What's a PR?

[rose laurel]

^

[dull heart]

either existing changes or vision

[urban cloak]

unless its like a genuine bug fix or something small

but nothing new

[dull heart]

it would have to be very small things yea

[urban cloak]

like don't give dog a new attack and expect it to get in

[still bluff]

Yeah please do not submit boss reworks

[dull heart]

like technically if you submit something and we like it for bosses it can get in

but it is very not likely to happen

[rose laurel]

One in a krillion

[dull heart]

It IS much more likely than it was under Fabsol though!

[still bluff]

Make it for an addon instead if you're that good at boss design and programming honestly

[dull heart]

^

[urban cloak]

yeah and then we'll steal it if its cool cause were EVIL

[trail oriole]

make an addon that adds any suggestion accepted or not

[still bluff]

Oh god

[rose laurel]

It went from "impossible" to "heavily discouraged"

Lol

[still bluff]

Isn't this ccr /j

[rose laurel]

Man it's so sad to not have laugh emotes in this server

[still bluff]

[rose laurel]

Ones that fit me, anyways

[agile latch]

can we

fix the emotes in this server pls

eventually

this place is moldy

[pulsar cobalt]

pull request

[dull heart]

the tldr is that

[rose laurel]

#dev-mod-corner

[pulsar cobalt]

its a thing u can do on a github project to suggest a change

[dusty tinsel]

Suggest a new emote to modmail

XD

[still bluff]

It has a ton of emotes that just kinda
Exist without seeing any use or relevance lol

[agile latch]

yea

[urban cloak]

(it'd be more formal to suggest emoji changes via modmail cause thats how everyone else is meant to do so)

[dull heart]

the larger a change is in terms of both impact and importance of what it changes

[agile latch]

ancient stuff nobody uses anymore

[dull heart]

The less likely it is done

[still bluff]

Theres a lot that are still funny to use occasionally

[urban cloak]

byeah no go ahead and suggest emojis so we can get rid of shit like

[agile latch]

[urban cloak]

[agile latch]

i think i only saw fabsol ever use this

[arctic cliff]

i dont know why dog is a cat in like

[dull heart]

[arctic cliff]

[dull heart]

drain

[still bluff]

[agile latch]

meant to be sad cat

[rose laurel]

Drain is peak

[arctic cliff]

[still bluff]

Drain is peak

[agile latch]

🚆

[arctic cliff]

Yhadios is so peak

[agile latch]

the train is so draedon

[urban cloak]

Drain is peak +2

[arctic cliff]

for the love of god please turn yhadios into a sticker

[agile latch]

we need the drain in the mod someday..

final upgrade of the mechanical cart

[dull heart]

sometimes I cook so hard even CCR won't do it

[still bluff]

[rose laurel]

I was gonna say that

[dense sundial]

okay it is exceptionally funny for emojis to make dog a cat

[still bluff]

True??

[dull heart]

traen

[rose laurel]

But I also don't want to add another miscellaneous drop for Draedon

[agile latch]

just make it craftable

[dense sundial]

ftw exclusive

[rose laurel]

Bro's already a feast loot-wise

[urban cloak]

EXO BOX REPLACEMENT

TRUST ME IM COOKING

[rose laurel]

🔥

[agile latch]

bullet train draedon

[dense sundial]

kill exo box and my life is yours

[agile latch]

so fast it breaks the sound barrier

[dull heart]

speaking of exo box

[vivid hemlock]

new worm boss just dropped

[dull heart]

I still have to do the things to exo box

[upper cosmos]

can you make it run PlayStation games

[dense sundial]

but there are no playstation games

[dull heart]

DraeStation

[arctic cliff]

WHAT

KILL EXO BOX? NOOOO\

[rose laurel]

No more cheat code for SCal!

[lavish otter]

Damn, got hit with the "no access" 😔

[dull heart]

L

[boreal edge]

what

[trail oriole]

got hit with the execution channel

[lavish otter]

[boreal edge]

Sup Slaughterer was made entirely in house by myself and Altix

[pulsar cobalt]

reb meant an entire concept going thru something and actually making it in

[rose laurel]

Dia suggested the rework via Asset Submission

[pulsar cobalt]

not prs specifically

[rose laurel]

Then he became a Dev so like

Lmao

[boreal edge]

Okay that

[lapis oak]

Dia submitted SS in asset-submissions

[boreal edge]

Though like the concept in asset submissions was not the same as the final concept so

[lavish otter]

Wait, when was Dia brought in?

[rose laurel]

Yes Dia submitted all of the Sunken Sea one day

[vivid hemlock]

kiri im splitting the atoms in your body

[dense sundial]

i find this pretty interesting actually

[lapis oak]

I speak facts

you know it

[agile latch]

end of 2023

[boreal edge]

October 17, 2023

[dense sundial]

dia has done wayfair stuff??

[agile latch]

think so

otherwise it wouldnt be stated there

i think its the skeletron stuff

[agile latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942196734791155722/1163021891842347069/Cal_Portfolio-1.gif

its a full gif btw

[fringe quiver]

dazzling fablefish has been extincted

[dusty tinsel]

The Minecraft sniffer

[fringe quiver]

😔

[uncut briar]

wdym

[agile latch]

the emojis in this server

[lavish otter]

Okay, so he's still been in for a while, but not quite as long as I expected honestly

[agile latch]

are like ancient

[uncut briar]

if you mean killing the ugly cal ones

hell yeah

[agile latch]

a lot of them nobody uses anymore

[agile latch]

and also some like

[uncut briar]

no one but me wants to do it though because of like

server branding or something

[agile latch]

who uses these in 2025

[vivid hemlock]

can we destroy all of the brimmy emotes please 😁

[uncut briar]

ive been asking for this thing’s downfall for four years

[agile latch]

replace them with 10 variations of ombgus

[vivid hemlock]

stop speaking in draconic!!!

[agile latch]

of diferent colors..

[brave star]

Why destroy the Brimmy

[agile latch]

or well 7

[fringe quiver]

keep calsad

calsad good

[rose laurel]

It shouldn't be translated it'd be so cool

[fringe quiver]

i use this daily

[brave star]

Calsad my beloved

[dense sundial]

oh come on, kekw is monolithic

[pulsar cobalt]

yea people should just fucking leaarn draconic

[vivid hemlock]

can we add and

[agile latch]

what is this emoji

when was it last used

[brave star]

[dense sundial]

This sucks.

[lavish otter]

I beg, keep the

[fringe quiver]

evil and bad emoji

[uncut briar]

okay never mind

[fringe quiver]

kill it please

[agile latch]

?

[uncut briar]

ugly ahh emotes

[agile latch]

why the random old squirrel squire

[uncut briar]

get them out

[fringe quiver]

yes they're hideous

calsad is the only good one.

calsad good. keep that one.

[shell sapphire]