i am meaning to fix tainted
#calamity-update-talk
dull heart
lapis oak
You will save it
dull heart
idk what to do about most of the others
lapis oak
My goat
cobalt wharf
make them work as intended
dull heart
what doesn't work as intended
cobalt wharf
make oblatory actually proc when mana is lost instead of when a weapon is used for example
dull heart
oh does it only proc on weapon use lol
lyric trellis
Enchants when nobody cares about them 🥀
dull heart
i can fix that quick
cobalt wharf
i’ve thought abt the enchantments for a long time
i think it’s possible to save most of them
dull heart
tainted i'm thinking about making it work on most melee weapons
dull heart
and then making it so the attack speed and damage scale opposite each other depending on weapon
lapis oak
What??
lyric trellis
It’s really funny how traitorous existed with a 160k damage projectile on it for like 1.5 years and nobody noticed until later
cobalt wharf
the only ones i think you can’t fix from just being stupid as fuck are like, lecherous and bloodthirsty/resentful
those ideas just suck at their core regardless
dull heart
bloodthirsty and resentful could work if it wasn't for
the fact exos are what they are
cobalt wharf
no even against mutant their incredibly dumb lmao
dull heart
fair enough
cobalt wharf
even with the boss that greatly changes its distance from you, it’s either always better or always worse for weapons
dull heart
the new alcohols are basically enchantments if they were cool ngl
notable upside, notable downside
Lecherous is an interesting idea but it needs a complete rework
lapis oak
I don't even remember what it does
dull heart
brimstone heart that floats between you and cursor
killing it drops hearts
homing weapons can home onto it
cobalt wharf
“how would you make lecherous not always good or always bad? idk make it delete piercing proj-“ no.
dull heart
TRUE
i'd say make the orb not float in mouse range
but like
orbit you or follow like a pet or smth
so you have to aim away DPS to kill it for hearts
cobalt wharf
the gimmick of blocking your weapons just doesn’t work
lapis oak
Quiver of Nihility but opposite
cobalt wharf
when every weapon will either always ignore it or always hit it
dull heart
yeah i agree, which is why it should be about giving you a reason to aim away
instead of just about blocking weapons
cobalt wharf
design wise hellbound is the other one that’s just “why would you ever not use this”
i know it’s bugged rn but still
lyric trellis
brimstone heart that floats between you and cursor
Only time this has been relevant is on drage for true melee exos to be considerably less terrible
cobalt wharf
oh no i have to resummon my minions every 60 seconds
lyric trellis
Boss dies in 60 seconds anyway
cobalt wharf
adds random fuckoff explosion projectiles for some reason
fringe quiver
its over
new real life patch making all animals in the amazon jungle green
every single living being in a ocean is now blue
all birds that fly in the sky are white
dusk bronze
every desert animal is yellow
cobalt wharf
all humans are white
mystic eagle
My cat has brown fur, all cats must have brown fur aswell
vivid hemlock
every disease is green
lyric trellis
Sulph sea enemies are the funniest example of monopallete because why do they look like they’re made of the sand
steep path
Had a dream that fabsol was let back into this server and was on the dev team again
(Or was it a nightmare?)
dusk bronze
definitely a nightmare
lapis oak
Had a dream that fabsol was let back into this server and was on the dev team ag...
my condolences
rustic fulcrum
wtf is the Foveanator from the changelogs
thick coyote
triplet
it was on an earlier changelog for sso so this changelog is basically saying they arent doing that
rustic fulcrum
oh ok
thick coyote
triplet
to elaborate i mean they were going to ad a third eye to the twins
fovenator was its name
dusk bronze
Oh it’s 2.1.0 not extra changes for SSO
sso is 2.1.0
drowsy reef
Yeah
lyric trellis
It’s so flashy it turned entirely white
dull heart
i became exoblade on accident
lyric trellis
Good job
lapis oak
wow
vivid hemlock
fathom girder
i became exoblade on accident
you became peak, finally
thick coyote
i became exoblade on accident
cinema
pulsar cobalt
i became exoblade on accident
desert scourge bag?
dull heart
close
lean relic
what
strong isle
Wrong channel
lavish otter
The Aquatic Scourge one, then?
arctic cliff
i'd personally say the palette in question was baller, but given that it was used for literally every single sulph sea enemy, ye i understand why you wanted to go away from it
lapis oak
the pallete makes them look like they made out of sand
lavish otter
Ehhh- sort of, it was a lot of murky grey-greens and yellows
In response to Overdone, I mean
agile latch
the pallete makes them look like they made out of sand
they have the same color of the sand, so yea
lapis oak
https://tenor.com/view/regretevator-unpleasant-unpleasant-gradient-roblox-gif-88...
why it looks like it's in a FNAF room
pulsar cobalt
https://tenor.com/view/regretevator-unpleasant-unpleasant-gradient-roblox-gif-88...
triangle look out your door
vivid hemlock
mango murasama
pulsar cobalt
the unpleasant gradient is there
dull heart
The Aquatic Scourge one, then?
yeah
rose laurel
They are not
wide orbit
lyric trellis
Will make great trivia in a few years
pearl sentinel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359694226404802580/1381025531021103235/T...
im fucking obsessed with this guy and his stupid ass animations
agile latch
vivid hemlock
you cant get this from an egg
stiff light
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359694226404802580/1381025531021103235/T...
hello tenna please marry me
pearl sentinel
hello tenna please marry me
hes still reeling from the divorce with spamton
lyric trellis
True
iron dew
hes still reeling from the divorce with spamton
||poor tenna had to deal with two divorces|| 💔
vivid hemlock
💔
brave star
you cant get this from an egg
The sensation of your screen
arctic cliff
they have the same color of the sand, so yea
okay i get it now, implying the entire biosphere of a given region is covered in sand, especially in a watery environment is ridiculous
(this is how i'd justify making scooge brown, he'd be digging in sand a lot)
something tells me the skyfins arent very into burrowing into the hard sand
lapis oak
ye dirt worm should be black brown too because it's been digging in dirt its whole life
hazy pine
when i become a calamity dev im adding my oc and theyre gonna be dating the party girl
lyric trellis
Explode
hazy pine
no
hazy pine
oh right
hazy pine
if john idea really wanted three fishillion fish they could do the minecraft thing and just randomize a certain type of fish
arctic cliff
🐟
proper raptor
the newest changelog looks absurd
sudden sundial
I'm glad we can't feed a child to radioactive crocodiles anymore. He's suffered enough.
bronze turret
really wonder which will launch first. 1.4.5 or SSO
lapis oak
@dusty tinsel ban
lapis oak
Mr. Breast
dull heart
i became exoblade on accident
Bad news
dusty tinsel
cog got it as i was talking
dull heart
I fixed it and you can no longer be exoblade
dull heart
Good news
lapis oak
how could you say such thing
dull heart
Now that it's fixed and works it's peak
dusty tinsel
KiriRed when
lapis oak
my whole screen is red right now
lyric trellis
Now that it's fixed and works it's peak
Is it Tainted
lapis oak
everyone is gazing their eyes toward tainted glowups
vivid hemlock
my whole screen is red right now
lapis oak
🫧 🐡 ?
dusty tinsel
KiriGrey
lapis oak
@dusty tinsel 🎣 ban
dusty tinsel
you ping me yet other mods get it quicker than me lol
stiff light
dusty tinsel
i am banning you
sour rivet
brave star
https://tenor.com/view/black-ops-6-black-ops-zombies-estrogen-black-ops-6-zombie...
Wish it could work on me if I could shapeshift
queen umbra
https://tenor.com/view/black-ops-6-black-ops-zombies-estrogen-black-ops-6-zombie...
gfuel into the veins to get that extra caffeine intake
copper musk
https://tenor.com/view/black-ops-6-black-ops-zombies-estrogen-black-ops-6-zombie...
damn that doesn't work
embed fail
stiff light
Wish it could work on me if I could shapeshift
wdym
stiff light
ok
brave star
Also when did u get the mod role
stiff light
whyy hair take so long to dry
brave star
Sometimes I forget Fryzahh is a dev too bc of the mod role overlapping the dev role
stiff light
gonna wrap my hair in copper wire and heat it up
stiff light
Sometimes I forget Fryzahh is a dev too bc of the mod role overlapping the dev r...
ya
also spider, raesh, fluffy
probably others im forgetting
ig amber and taylor
but they admins
lyric trellis
https://tenor.com/view/glass-pinwheel-mnky-gif-24684229
Important gif
main estuary
https://tenor.com/view/glass-pinwheel-mnky-gif-24684229
wonder if the metal-looking bits are what let it withstand the fall
stiff light
probably
main estuary
still needs some tweaks before the hammer becomes obselete to breaking it
arctic cliff
Sometimes I forget Fryzahh is a dev too bc of the mod role overlapping the dev r...
fun fact: this actually was why i had no idea that rover was one of the outgoing devs during 22
stiff light
roverdwive
arctic cliff
i had known him as a dev and just assumed that he was still one
it was only i think
stiff light
them i think
boreal edge
Important gif
Yeah
pearl sentinel
https://tenor.com/view/glass-pinwheel-mnky-gif-24684229
hammer of justice
arctic cliff
triactis hammer rework in sso be like:
(at least, i assume the rework will make it a lot like its predecessors)
vivid hemlock
probably
stiff light
canili
vivid hemlock
lean relic
will this be real
(Not the sprite)
I heard from somewhere that Aureus will infect fully during fight
orchid finch
ig amber and taylor
Lilac's not a dev anymore fyi
raw pendant
so what about their yharim concept then?
orchid finch
It's
A concept
I don't think they took the concepts with them
Especially since it happened like a month or so before
The Event
raw pendant
well id say theres a chance a new concept is made
but i wasnt really a fan of it anyways
orchid finch
I don't remember it that well but hey, a concept is a concept
Oh yeah the bulky armor and burned face
Don't mind me but that's a neat concept
orchid finch
May be an older version then
raw pendant
oh god the qulity
raw pendant
oh what the
orchid finch
Like it's literally the same timeframe and using the same art you sent
raw pendant
never seen that
dusk bronze
i've never seen it either
raw pendant
Like it's literally the same timeframe and using the same art you sent
nah it was way older dating to last year
dusk bronze
but multiple devs have confirmed they'll never reveal yharim's face
orchid finch
i've never seen it either
How am I the only one having the memories of it
orchid finch
nah it was way older dating to last year
Which one
They're literally all from the last year
raw pendant
also thats not even yharims actual hair its just a plume so that was an interesting decision
rose laurel
That one isn't official
raw pendant
They're literally all from the last year
oh i read that as 2025 my fault
thick coyote
i hope i never see yharims face because atp hes master chief in terms of being faceless
rose laurel
We won't reveal Yharim's face, yes
dusk bronze
i hope i never see yharims face because atp hes master chief in terms of being f...
good news
yeah that
thick coyote
glad to hear that
rose laurel
That's something I'm very much against
lapis oak
Yharim is bald 
dusk bronze
also reb i have a lore question
raw pendant
i do like this one alot however
rose laurel
also reb i have a lore question
Shoot
orchid finch
also reb i have a lore question
There's literally lore discussion
rose laurel
Not saying right now
dusk bronze
👍
orchid finch
i do like this one alot however
Was about to say "isn't this old lore" but then I remembered that old lore Yharim is a lihzard king or whatever
dusk bronze
that's older lore
orchid finch
Was new lore Yharim actually cast into magma?
drowsy reef
Yeah
dusk bronze
old lore yharim was human
dusk bronze
Was new lore Yharim actually cast into magma?
and yes that still happens
nocturne sonnet
i do like this one alot however
Anakin
dusk bronze
but he's an adult at the time
orchid finch
Oh so there are three timeframes of lore now huh
raw pendant
yup
orchid finch
Man where are the good ol days of just old lore and new lore
raw pendant
we have the original lore, the pre 22 era lore, and the newest lore
dusk bronze
older lore was very short lived
orchid finch
we have the original lore, the pre 22 era lore, and the newest lore
Ah
drowsy reef
Remember the old lore items
orchid finch
That explains it
drowsy reef
They were like
dusk bronze
back when noxus was an engineered superweapon
drowsy reef
Not
orchid finch
Remember the old lore items
How could you forget the goated infinite flight time Yharon lore
drowsy reef
?
orchid finch
What
dusk bronze
yharon lore item gave you infinite flight time
orchid finch
Yeah
hard copper
free dash from cryogen lore 
drowsy reef
I never got that one because on the old versions I never got past DoG
He wormed too hard on me
orchid finch
Cool dude more like uncool dude
dusk bronze
god remember sg lore item
orchid finch
That was something
dusk bronze
that was a thing
orchid finch
What else was obscure
drowsy reef
Cool dude more like uncool dude
I was young and stupid
steep path
yharon lore item gave you infinite flight time
man I would love to have infinite flight in calamity again. Not because I think bosses should be balanced around it but just because it's fun. I like flying :>
orchid finch
Do you know how killing Brimmy buffs your Inferno potions (I think it's that)?
That was the lore item's thing
drowsy reef
Oh my fucking god I just realized the Draedon update came out while I was playing that long long time ago
dusk bronze
Do you know how killing Brimmy buffs your Inferno potions (I think it's that)?
correct
drowsy reef
I didn’t keep up with the news
raw pendant
back when noxus was an engineered superweapon
speaking of
drowsy reef
Actually it’d be kinda funny if Yhim’s face was revealed but instead of his actual face it was like the ending of Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Back when the series was actually good
orchid finch
I find it weird how I played Calamity for the first time in like, 2019 or so, and then they roll out the Rust and Dust the next year
dusk bronze
How could you forget the goated infinite flight time Yharon lore
wait
it didn't give you infinite flight
dusk bronze
it gave you flight for 14 minutes
orchid finch
Well you wouldn't be holding spacebar for 14 minutes would you
dusk bronze
rock
orchid finch
So you can basically consider that infinite flight time
dusk bronze
on the spacebar
dusk bronze
put a rock on it
drowsy reef
Back when the series was actually good
Ya know when I bring up the abysmal quality of Persona 5’s writing people seem to genuinely not understand what there is to complain about, is the standard for video game storytelling actually that low?
But anyway
The new lore items are wordier but that’s good sometimes
dusk bronze
it is very good
prelude and requiem literally gave me chills
"may fortune favor you. for nothing else will."
how do you come up with a banger of that magnitude
hazy pine
i have no idea on burn anatomy nor am i looking it up but arti rw has taught me the burn eyes should be open right
or an i delusional
orchid finch
Hell if I know, I'm not an anatomist
dusk bronze
anatomist
uncut briar
it is very good
:glory
are u sure about that
i was just discussing the lore items and brevity in general with some people
somehow the lore items which are basically the only peek into yharim's character end up putting characterization behind exposition half the time
inconsistent characterization too
insert queen bee text here
dusk bronze
how so
uncut briar
another Writing Exercise
idk yharim's character entirely but just focusing on delivery here
and how the abyss item from the leviathan/anahita has to fight for space with anahita/silva/yharim's characterization, etc
arctic cliff
maybe he uses flowery prose to confuse you into not acknowledging that he, yknow, did a bad
thats just me
uncut briar
the lore item's alright in that it at least has yharim saying "my wishes"
but otherwise its completely flat
dusk bronze
also you cut out a majority of the silva stuff
uncut briar
what of what i cut out is necessary characterization and not just exposition
let the player piece things together, silva's only appearance shouldn't be in this lore item about the abyss
dusk bronze
it might be
uncut briar
that'd be a big mistake in its own right
uncut briar
then it's even less important that she gets that much exposition
because who cares
ysee?
uncut briar
it might be
okay then this is irrelevant
arctic cliff
byeah from what i can tell, yharim isn't meant to be entirely regretful of his actions, he still thinks killing all the gods was a good idea, no matter their actual morals
dusk bronze
just not abyss related
pluh
uncut briar
????
dusk bronze
byeah from what i can tell, yharim isn't meant to be entirely regretful of his a...
what is this about
uncut briar
silva's only appearance shouldn't be in the abyss lore item
"it might be"
dusk bronze
the lore item might be the only info about her being in the abyss
the vernal pass stuff will cover her life before then
uncut briar
okay then
what part of the abyss lore item that i cut out was useful exposition for the abyss itself
and why would yharim tell the player about it, and why should it matter to the player
less is more
dusk bronze
there's still some info there, it just sounds significantly less cool
dusk bronze
exposition isn't inherently bad
uncut briar
it isn't, refer to what i just said
dusk bronze
why are we discussing lore in spoiler talk and upcoming content in lore discussion
arctic cliff
"Somehow, eons of tectonics could not seal or crush it" have one role and it makes the abyss seem almost anomalous
they're interchangeable
uncut briar
i can give you more examples, like with QB that makes no sense unless you realize it was only written with the "development" of plaguebringer later on
uncut briar
"Somehow, eons of tectonics could not seal or crush it" have one role and it mak...
is that important though?
uncut briar
explain
dusk bronze
i can give you more examples, like with QB that makes no sense unless you realiz...
that's not a bad thing
uncut briar
it is if its inconsistent
somehow the Freedom of Bees of all things are what he respects the most completely ignoring all the other natural life/order he's disrupted with his actions
arctic cliff
i suppose pointing out how the abyss's geology is abnormal for a trench does a lot in adding mystique to the abyss, especially since Yharim does seem to like flowery language
uncut briar
dusk bronze
it's not that he likes bees, he despises slavery in general
he disrupted biomes, but he didn't enslave creatures
uncut briar
i suppose pointing out how the abyss's geology is abnormal for a trench does a l...
Also there's flowery and then there's circular language
"Flowery" language is fine but circular language repeats itself
arctic cliff
It's not that circular.
uncut briar
"her tenacity and very willpower"
arctic cliff
it's just puting emphasis on something that intrigues yharim especially
dusk bronze
Also there's flowery and then there's circular language
the abyss being close to the shore and the revelation that an external force is keeping it open are very different
arctic cliff
Geology isn't normally what I'd expect Yharim to be knowledgeable here, but, but it does say something if Yharim is noticing a simple detail about the abyss, and pondering on why it is like that.
uncut briar
i'm asking what the external force is and why that matters in the long run, because i dont see any relevance in the story so far
is that just explained outside of the game?
uncut briar
obviously
hoary edge
666 - You can no longer feed the Angler to Trashers.
oh cool 🙂
dusk bronze
just because something's not a chekhov's gun doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be there
uncut briar
anyway like i said im not claiming to say i know what the plans for characterization or what "secret lore plans" there's going to be, im purely just experimenting with the delivery
arctic cliff
i suppose i could talk about Old Duke's bestiary entry
uncut briar
just because something's not a chekhov's gun doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to ...
?? that would be pointless exposition
arctic cliff
oh for fucks sake
uncut briar
hi rebecca
arctic cliff
😭
dusk bronze
?? that would be pointless exposition
mfw every piece of information that doesn't have an explicit payoff is pointless
uncut briar
it is when its fighting for room in an already dense paragraph
flint sapphire
The big issue with the abyss dialogue is essentially that it puts it on a pedestal as being important and plot relevant later, only to be the exact opposite since very little if anything happens there. If it were an item description or multiple item descriptions then it probably wouldn’t be as big of an issue.
dusk bronze
this convo fucking sucks
uncut briar
you can argue about the necessity of including future plot points but im saying that the language itself its delivered in isnt efficient
dusk bronze
The big issue with the abyss dialogue is essentially that it puts it on a pedest...
calamity is unfinished
uncut briar
we know
there's nothing wrong with critiquing the way existing content is delivered
if it's changed that's that
hoary edge
this convo is getting chaotic
arctic cliff
it could even be...
uncut briar
it's not like it doesnt exist until its finished
rose laurel
Idk the Abyss Lore Item is pretty whatever to me, it's just there to tell you about Silva and stuff which I do think is kind of an oversight given Plantera is right there, and I have changed what it talks about exactly because of that
dusk bronze
**this convo is getting chaotic**
getting?
arctic cliff
Catastrophic...
rose laurel
The Abyss is a place that really has just
Very little to be talked about specially from Yharim's perspective
uncut briar
right, it has too many competing elements for what should be a lot simpler
dusk bronze
i disagree
uncut briar
you're free to do so but these are basic writing conventions
the more a player's presented with in a short time frame the more you're asking for their attention to be divided
especially if its presented like this
rose laurel
The Lore Items were made under the constraint of having to deliver an outline of the entire story at the time due to being the only thing available for the writers to really mess with. I think that once we rework the items into the seeing stone and shit we'll probably go over every item, likely spread them out more and do all that fancy stuff
dusk bronze
the more a player's presented with in a short time frame the more you're asking ...
you greatly overcorrected
dusk bronze
The Lore Items were made under the constraint of having to deliver an outline of...
seeing stone is what you're going with?
sweet
arctic cliff
anyhow
uncut briar
you greatly overcorrected
like I said, im not trying to change or know what the characterization is, im addressing the delivery
what gets removed should be presented elsewhere
outside of the
arctic cliff
I wanna complain about the old duke bestiary entry since it's gonna get rewritten anyways given his complete replacement in the distant future
naive ice
The Lore Items were made under the constraint of having to deliver an outline of...
Seeing stone you say
uncut briar
"Abyss Lore item"
arctic cliff
"One of the original draconic offshoots who were born in the Draconic Era. Dragons who were born after all the auric souls had been gifted to their kind were forced to make do without, forever outside of the cycle of rebirth. Yet in a twist of fate, the Auric Dragons' age would end, and those rejected would be the survivors in this new world."
I never really liked this because it didn't feel very specific to Old Duke
rose laurel
The only problem is that Yharim is a very delicate character and the items have a tremendous amount of nuance within them. If we do rewrite them it has to be done with extreme care and dilligence
dusk bronze
no???
rose laurel
I don't think so, personally
uncut briar
look over the codebreaker and the lore item text
well
it might be the general overexplaining
dusk bronze
2 people are allowed to use verbose language separately
rose laurel
I have, I wrote like, 66% of Draetalk
uncut briar
I can make another example
uncut briar
rose laurel
But I wrote a lot of it given I'm like, The Drafter
arctic cliff
The Lore Items were made under the constraint of having to deliver an outline of...
I mean if this was the constraint the lore writers were under, it probably explains why Yharim sounds more verbose than he should be
ANYWAYS
dusk bronze
i love yharim's verboseness personally
uncut briar
What part of this is characterization for draedon that couldn't be condensed and what part is unnecessary technical exposition
dusk bronze
What part of this is characterization for draedon that couldn't be condensed and...
not everything you don't like is unnecessary
rose laurel
To be fair, I think the Exo Mechs are the one topic Draedon should go ham on exposition
arctic cliff
> "One of the original draconic offshoots who were born in the Draconic Era. Dra...
It doesn't even reference anything specific to Old Duke, only an (admitedly very funny) observation about how the unspecified author of this found about the draconic offshoots outliving their Auric counterparts in the end
lean relic
fabs idea bosses....
dusk bronze
It doesn't even reference anything specific to Old Duke, only an (admitedly very...
old duke has no lore right now tbh
uncut briar
not everything you don't like is unnecessary
It's not a matter of like and dislike man its how to efficiently deliver characterization and knowing when and where to provide exposition
naive ice
old duke has no lore right now tbh
Old duke belongs in the fucking trash
rose laurel
They are the apex of his craft. He is extremelly passionate about what he has done. I think he would go into extreme detail about their composition because of that
uncut briar
Old duke belongs in the fucking trash
+2
dusk bronze
Old duke belongs in the fucking trash
good news
arctic cliff
It doesn't even reference anything specific to Old Duke, only an (admitedly very...
Like. From what I could tell of an argument about this, the lore writers literally could not think of any extra detail about the Old Duke to put in the bestiary entry, because apparently they now treat that as a wastebucket for lore for some reason.
rose laurel
We already had the argument over Draedon too so like, I don't really know what to say
uncut briar
any characterization set up before in what he directly says about the player or from his fight dialogue which comes before this takes a backseat for just delivering information
uncut briar
dragon's aerie is literally only expanded upon here
then hopefully that changes
rose laurel
I agree with you I probably went overboard lol
dusk bronze
any characterization set up before in what he directly says about the player or ...
that's what draetalk is for
he tells you information
uncut briar
draedon becoming the encyclopedia is a big waste of a character
arctic cliff
Draedon sounds like the exact guy to be an encyclopedia.
rose laurel
I say "I" because, again, I wrote a bunch of the entries and I think people kinda just followed along with what I had down
arctic cliff
To be quite honest.
arctic cliff
Like. From what I could tell of an argument about this, the lore writers literal...
But, at least, since they're gonna rework the Old Duke into someone almost completely different,
so i guess it is actually going away (forgot to mention that i wrote a sugg that got into dev, only for it to get rejected)
uncut briar
if draedon's character is to be nerd pushing glasses up i guess that's that, but his demeanor before isnt nearly so helpful or willing to engage with the player
idk it's frustrating because it's inconsistent
arctic cliff
Okay, to be fair, you're asking him to describe what he knows about a given topic.
uncut briar
not because its a direction i dislike
arctic cliff
He's not like, doing this on his own.
uncut briar
Okay, to be fair, you're asking him to describe what he knows about a given topi...
because its framed that way and the game requires it, that doesnt make it any less jarring
rose laurel
I do think there are places where Draedon would dump a boatload of text onto the player, mainly on Exos
uncut briar
i can only hope the information is dispersed and spread out a bit
so the dialogue can be focused a bit more on characterization that's been diluted
rose laurel
And, yeah most of it would be just technobabble but
That's kinda the point. Draedon is just really enthusiastic about the Exos lol
uncut briar
thats why i gave you the other example but you seem to already know what the issue is with that one
arctic cliff
I mean, if I created something as good as an Exo Mech, I'd be pretty ecstatic about it.
rose laurel
I already know what's the issue with Draetalk as a whole, we already had that discussion
I have some problems with characterization and have been wanting to solve that. I think I have been doing a good job with what I've been writing for SSO thus far
arctic cliff
okay forcing a topic change didnt work
naive ice
That's kinda the point. Draedon is just really enthusiastic about the Exos lol
Draedon asmr
bleak condor
is the terrarian really that fragile compared to the other bosses
rose laurel
I might take upon myself to rewrite Draetalk after SSO given I don't think I will have much to do
SSO is my big writing project and I want to leave space for other writers to do stuff
Only other big thing I have planned is Providence stuff which is a long way off
Writing is a bitch
bleak condor
is the terrarian really that fragile compared to the other bosses
i found it a bit baffling to see that the player can tank a handful of hits meanwhile bosses like calamitas could tank a million times more hits than we can
naive ice
i found it a bit baffling to see that the player can tank a handful of hits mean...
Cause they’re a fuck ton stronger than us. We start as an itty bitty squishy creature
dusk bronze
i found it a bit baffling to see that the player can tank a handful of hits mean...
calamitas has an energy shield
she has the base durability of a regular human
dusk bronze
Only other big thing I have planned is Providence stuff which is a long way off
oh yeah that reminds me
when did guardians become actual people
arctic cliff
i found it a bit baffling to see that the player can tank a handful of hits mean...
She has a shield.
dusk bronze
She has a shield.
i said that
arctic cliff
A magic forcefield, specifically.
rose laurel
When we were writing the Bestiary entries
rose laurel
We decided then that the Guardians would be people
arctic cliff
dusk bronze
We decided then that the Guardians would be people
in from the ashes?
naive ice
I want the forcefield myself
No. Rawdog it
arctic cliff
I beg your pardon?
rose laurel
in from the ashes?
No, the Bestiary was after
naive ice
You heard me
dusk bronze
so that's why the lore item is still blatant misinformation
rose laurel
The Guardians are rather simple constructs, extensions of the Profaned Goddess' power.
They are given partial autonomy to hunt down threats and are rarely seen outside of temples sanctified in her name.
She has been attempting to expand her domain, it is of no surprise she sees you as her largest threat to that.
After all, it was you that finished off the star-spawned horror that catalyzed the downfall of the Dragons.
Draw her out from hiding. Have no mercy, for the Profaned Goddess shows none herself.
I mean, not really, the only part you could say is objectively wrong is when Yharim calls them "constructs"
dusk bronze
yeah that part
dusk bronze
after the resprite probably
rose laurel
Anyways, I shall sleep now
arctic cliff
im imagining an npc rn whose sole purpose is to fact check yharim's lore items
every step of the way
naive ice
Yharim is an unreliable narrator
dusk bronze
im imagining an npc rn whose sole purpose is to fact check yharim's lore items
the bestiary writer
they're an objective, omniscient 3rd party
arctic cliff
"No Yharim, they're fucking people. I don't care if they worship someone who ate a dragon's soul."
"Hell, what if the dragon was an asshole who deserved it?"
dusk bronze
"yharim ordered calamitas to kill permafrost what the hell is this bullshit"
naive ice
“I need a drink. Several actually.”
arctic cliff
"Yharim... wait why did they toss you into a lava pit? With Yharon's egg? Who the hell would pull that stupid crap?"
"Are they stupid?"
naive ice
What if the bestiary writer sold the strongest alcohol
light token
drowsy reef
Yharim is an unreliable narrator
Kinda wonder if he’s just distorting the truth through his own worldview or if anything he says is an outright, deliberate lie
arctic cliff
"Yharim, I get it, the abyss is weird and Silva fucked it with her tentacles. You don't need to go in circles saying that."
some of it is outright lies
drowsy reef
There are some things that definitely fall into the category of lying by omission
arctic cliff
thats actually the basis of the quotes we're writing here for laughs
naive ice
The writer would have an aneurysm
arctic cliff
"Yharim, YOU ORDERED DRAEDON to replicate Calamitas's power. You fucking asked for whatever the hell happened with that."
"Yharim, where is my fucking lore on the Moon Lord?"
naive ice
“Yharim I swear to fuck. If you do not get your shit together, I will castrate you with a spoon.”
arctic cliff
"Yharim, there's a fucking rift eating the Sun and it's coming for us. Can you fucking do something about it, instead of whining about your failures?"
I love this character
i should use him in the future sometime
naive ice
“Yharim, you need to fucking let go. It’s been ages, stop fucking complaining. I’m getting another drink.”
arctic cliff
"Yharim. Providence is literally fatalist. She is literally right there. You can... okay fine, quite frankly, beat her shit in."
"These drinks aren't helping me. I need fucking stims."
naive ice
“Not even the booze that’s basically jet fuel can prepare me for your stupidity.”
arctic cliff
🤣
naive ice
Just several bottles of Midnight Hobo lying around their office, all completely drained
With 10 more 18 packs of the stuff left and being chugged
uncut briar
"Yharim, I get it, the abyss is weird and Silva fucked it with her tentacles. Yo...
yharim finish your highschool english class
you dont need to fulfill a word count quota
arctic cliff
"Yharim, you're not supposed to be the lore guy. You're supposed to kill gods."
naive ice
“Look, maybe leave the lore to the professionals, because you constantly fuck everything up. I was 10 years sober before you came along. Now I need a 12 pack just to get through the day.”
torn kite
Sunken Sea Overhaul part 1 tomorrow?
gloomy grove
sso last week
lapis oak
today!!!
brave star
https://tenor.com/view/talk-lizard-ironic-gif-25847938
Me when “ “
uncut briar
shhh
silk terrace
Sunken Sea Overhaul part 1 tomorrow?
Where u hear this
valid crypt
They are joking its not tomorrow this chat would be on slowmode due to how much activity there is if it was tomorroe
kind tinsel
They are joking its not tomorrow this chat would be on slowmode due to how much ...
not joking, it is tomorrow
uncut briar
me when i lie
hazy pine
If cal isn't released in 2025 I'm boycotting for two hours
uncut briar
epic gamer move
summer shore
same
queen umbra
If cal isn't released in 2025 I'm boycotting for two hours
Idk why, seeing a time limit for the boycotting reminds me of that Reddit incident from like years ago lmao
like what a dumbass decision to put a date on a boycott
hazy pine
Idk why, seeing a time limit for the boycotting reminds me of that Reddit incide...
I mean it's reddit lmao
What'd you expect
buoyant pulsar
pbg is my faaaaaaaaaaaaavorite boss
honestly this sprite is fine, it's just the teensy tiny little grip and pointless crossguard that should be edited
summer shore
Thas why it's wip
buoyant pulsar
whar
plush carbon
I mean I can still give feedback based on what I’ve seen
summer shore
Fair but I doubt tobiar and trongel are thinking about nuke terror right now
plush carbon
Yea its just on the mind cause people started insulting Tobias in MoRcord over it
plush carbon
I thought it’d at least liven up since the fab exodus but they’re still kinda just a circlejerk server
summer shore
Nothing ever happens
plush carbon
I’ve been so tempted to leave it still which is a shame because I like MoR and I hold nothing against the devs
buoyant pulsar
yall is oblatory still stupid broken
plush carbon
But omg the people with higher roles in that server
Even John Snail was kinda a huge dick to me just cause I like Cal
Basically tried to turn me into a punching bag
buoyant pulsar
yall is oblatory still stupid broken
me when i use my oblatory apotheosis with its longass usetime and don't even proc the single downside whatsoever
plush carbon
Sorry for ranting a bit but thinking about that server really does piss me off
plush carbon
me when i use my oblatory apotheosis with its longass usetime and don't even pro...
I’ve never really used an Enchant
Ever
So idk what most of them actually Do
buoyant pulsar
oblatory gives you +25% damage with no downside
hushed hazel
I thought it’d at least liven up since the fab exodus but they’re still kinda ju...
☹️
summer shore
Not worth
gray laurel
So idk what most of them actually Do
Oblatory give 25% dmg buff and -40% mana cost but has 25% chance to lose 5 hp each attack
plush carbon
5hp?
lapis oak
Basically nothing
plush carbon
omg
lapis oak
A lot of weapons can abuse that so hard
plush carbon
thats pretty funny holy shit
buoyant pulsar
if miracle matter is supposed to be equivalent to exhumed weapons then all classes should have exhumed options
imagine an exhumed version of Carnage or whatever that's a giant brutal melee morningstar. like the macehead is a skull with spikes coming out of it. imagine some kind of heavy lunge that crushes enemy defense
rahhhh i love morningstars
buoyant pulsar
exhume is super different from enchant
hushed hazel
both current final bosses tend to lean towards one class archetype each in terms of drops but i think there's been talks of adding exhumed weapons for the other classes too
buoyant pulsar
rancor is the coolest weapon in the entire mod just saying
hushed hazel
(i'm counting exhumes as drops in this context
plush carbon
rancor is cool but i dont play mage
buoyant pulsar
fair
im doing a magic guns only run rn
my friend beat eye for me since i couldn't deal damage (first weapon is acid gun, which is post eye)
lapis oak
There will be so many weapons to try on Scal in SSO 😋
valid crypt
Gay sword
lapis oak
Helium Flash, Devil's Devastation, Ontological Despoiler
buoyant pulsar
There will be so many weapons to try on Scal in SSO 😋
yes! like my favorite seashine hilt:
lapis oak
So many good roleplay weapons to choose from
buoyant pulsar
Helium Flash, Devil's Devastation, Ontological Despoiler
helium flash my actual greatest of all time
shoots exploding stellar plasma at you cutely
plush carbon
i just cant wait for Desert Scourge to give the player the Sea Scarf
Sea Scarf is not dropped by any boss but is rather given directly to the player for defeating the Desert Scourge
summer shore
if miracle matter is supposed to be equivalent to exhumed weapons then all class...
There are plans for some more exhumes yes
Iirc there's
-Apocalypse: exhumed blissful bombardier
-unknown name: exhumed pulse rifle
Maybe more I don't remember
lapis oak
Mostly lore related items if I remember correctly
summer shore
Yes
hushed hazel
exhumes tend to be lore related yes
clear compass
helium flash my actual greatest of all time
Why have you been on curseforge for 54 F-ING HOURS
valid crypt
Exhumes do have lore on them yeah
plush carbon
yea like dog turning into sepulcher
summer shore
Iirc there's
-Apocalypse: exhumed blissful bombardier
-unknown name: exhumed pu...
Both of these are ranger
plush carbon
summer shore
I don't remember if there's any public plans for melee or rogue exhumes
lapis oak
The fuck is a m- nevermind
plush carbon
Ancient Evil Reawakened
Ancients... Awakened?
dawn ferry
is that mod still alive
lapis oak
Maybe he's the one who nose
summer shore
mellow gun dost thy nose
plush carbon
is that mod still alive
AA is supposedly allegedly being brought back
urban cloak
mhm
they had a new beta release back in march i believe?
and ive seen some progress for it still active in other servers
tropic ermine
You could even say they...
Awakened the Ancients
urban cloak
seems to be going well from my limited view of the server
buoyant pulsar
Why have you been on curseforge for 54 F-ING HOURS
left it open
azure oak
also trogle apparently edited this image to include the correct head
valid crypt
mellow gun dost thy nose
Dont think so but now i know you may
final pine
Under new management
dear god i'd hope so
summer shore
so summoner will have 3 and the rest of the classes will have 2
and there'll be at least one more accessory
dusk bronze
also trogle apparently edited this image to include the correct head
whar
the full sprite in patreon has the old head
tf is going on
summer shore
wait whar
azure oak
or i guess not
lapis oak
Good job Orios
azure oak
shut
lapis oak
Generational leak just dropped
azure oak
triangle posted it in the fables discord
lapis oak
Just like the gif
dusk bronze
also trogle apparently edited this image to include the correct head
pluh
lapis oak
Buh
summer shore
Yea that
dusk bronze
there's still some orange pixels lol
lapis oak
Back to purpel Scourge eh
dusk bronze
blue ds .. lives?
lapis oak
Just like he never left
summer shore
it's porple with red under it
valid crypt
Wai whaur full sprite shown?
uncut briar
another one of my horrid surgeries
i like the stubby little arms
modern grove
Can't wait for an attack when desert scourge flips you off and sends a giant fire ball from his middle finger
Preferably he should have a cowboy hat
summer shore
sprite the hat yourself you have the power
modern grove
No I'm playing deltarune I don't have time for arting
plush carbon
i just got a switch 2 so productivity is about to hit an all t ime low here as well
azure oak
desert scrooge
summer shore
thesert scunge
azure oak
it's not the actual scourge, i just pieced it together from what's publically available
i'll delete it anyways though if you want
raw pendant
trail oriole
iit looked so much like the actual scourge i thought it was the actual sprite
trail oriole
🫂
azure oak
exact same patter down the spine
wary igloo
someone outsped me
trail oriole
i literaally just woke up and it gavve me a shock
azure oak
i deleted it myself lol
trail oriole
wrongful mod ping
wary igloo
oh the misery
trail oriole
it wasnt that the textures like
matched up
but the arm and feet placement aswell as the rest of the shape matches like
perfectly
raw pendant
this truly is a guardian of the former seas
azure oak
i mean you did reveal the sprite's length, and part of the tail and the new head was posted by triangle
you can get this shape from just those things
azure oak
btw cool nuclear terror design
wings feel a bit scraggly but the concept & design's fun
azure oak
ah
azure oak
oooh inverted lungs
dusk bronze
oooh blood eagle
trail oriole
it's be a seperate thing tthat grows and shrinks slightly
valid crypt
Where can i the see the nuke terror
spark kiln
btw cool nuclear terror design
where
trail oriole
im still figuring out the sword
valid crypt
Oh right that
valid crypt
What tf is that parasite thing
dawn ferry
wtf is that 😭
dusk bronze
current nuc terror is my favorite character design in the mod but this is a worthy replacement
dusk bronze
wrow
trail oriole
it makes no sense
dusk bronze
:(
valid crypt
Nuke terror has always stood out to me compared to the other acid rain guys
azure oak
its back legs are on the front and its front legs are on the back
trail oriole
its like
dusk bronze
its back legs are on the front and its front legs are on the back
it's peak i know
trail oriole
literally that one image that says "concept artist who doesnt know aanatomy designs a monster"
dusk bronze
going a little wacky is good sometimes
trail oriole
squat bugging
azure oak
trail oriole
the front legs on the back and the back legs on the front was king of creative though that was fun
trail oriole
sure
orchid finch
dam that scouger got hands,,,
trail oriole
its just a matter of how you would like
boil the design down
cause ofc im a bit biased but if i would to boil my design down itd be a bit deeper than lanky monster man
dusk bronze
wait
won't desert scourge be the first modded worm boss that actually fits on the screen full length in a straight line
dusk bronze
what about dog
azure oak
sketched what i think it looks like before all of that hair because i like hypothetical stuff
late eagle
you can get this shape from just those things
Man, I'm absolutely certain the community is going to split and burn for 2 weeks when everyone sees desert scourge😭
azure oak
Man, I'm absolutely certain the community is going to split and burn for 2 weeks...
havent heard anyone saying that DS should stay a generic big mandible worm
late eagle
hint hint the hair is actually blood aha
All of it??
trail oriole
it doesnt make super much sense but i imagined the horns sprouting out of his eyes and his skull
so itll like
flood with blood
no t all of it
i like the ugly pug face
late eagle
havent heard anyone saying that DS should stay a generic big mandible worm
Because it isn't completely public right now
trail oriole
ill see what i can like
dusk bronze
it doesnt make super much sense but i imagined the horns sprouting out of his ey...
what are the white dots then
trail oriole
do when i make the transformation animation
trail oriole
what are the white dots then
highlights
late eagle
The moment red nation discovers gecko scourge we need to pray hard
viral merlin
I cast
1.4.5 release just before SSO update
dusk bronze
highlights
they very much read as eyes rn
dusk bronze
do when i make the transformation animation
wait anim for what
dusk bronze
yes
trail oriole
no words
spark kiln
yea he’s right tho
late eagle
It isn't?
viral merlin
Is that nuclear terror
trail oriole
why would i give it two tiny eyes
dusk bronze
Is that nuclear terror
yeah
trail oriole
😭
late eagle
Idk
dusk bronze
for the spooky?? idk
late eagle
spark kiln
why would i give it two tiny eyes
they look like eyes
viral merlin
Why it went from a radioactive cockroach to a diver with a balloon
dusk bronze
my phone will die in t minus 3 seconds i'll get back to you in a minute
azure oak
it doesnt make super much sense but i imagined the horns sprouting out of his ey...
so something more like this?
cunning sequoia
why would i give it two tiny eyes
funny
orchid finch
they look like eyes
well shit, doesn't mean they are
viral merlin
Bro thinks he can jump high
spark kiln
well shit, doesn't mean they are
that’s not what i said
late eagle
well shit, doesn't mean they are
The thing is, the way it is every time you look at him it looks like he has two little eyes, and judging by Tobias' reaction I don't think that's what he wants.
valid crypt
I didnt notice the white pixels but yeah i can see why they would me seen as eyes
trail oriole
late eagle
Peak cinema
valid crypt
Bald
orchid finch
MIRACLE MA
azure oak
Miracle boy reborn
dusk bronze
phone alive
dusk bronze
HOW ARE YOU DRAWING THESE SO FAST
azure oak
i make a da art
final pine
i actually love this, it really conveys the 'monster mutated beyond recognition' lore that it has, great job!
trail oriole
Wth is this
nuckea teroin
stiff light
nuclear heroin
so sad that nuclesr terror never recovered from its crippling heroin addiction
viral merlin
It's looking good
vivid hemlock
if miracle matter is supposed to be equivalent to exhumed weapons then all class...
lucky for you that's happenings in the future
dull heart
yup
hot pebble
1 more minute and I will use the power of Community
dusk bronze
yup
i just had the peakest idea
make every weapon exhumable
surely this will be easy and cause no problems
hushed hazel
Sounds like some shit ccr would do
dull heart
8 years and 750 Exhumes later, we finally get a calamity update
hushed hazel
Every weapon can be exhumed but all it does is hurt you when you use it, make the weapon inflict on fire and gives the weapon sprite a dark red tint
hard hearth
twin juniper
Why does it look like it would show up in polter’s mini biome (mutated spine thing aside)
dusk bronze
because it's made by the same artist
hmm
@trail oriole sry for ping but how will nuclear terror fit with the acid rain
bc it's a random alien parasite now
also will it be renamed
trail oriole
it will fit amen
acid rain will down the line get more fucked up and such
so hopefully duke will fit that vibe when
trangle gets to it
dusk bronze
but like
old nuc terror was directly created by the sulphur sea
what role does it have in the new one
twin juniper
is it because they’re post polter so they’re like
going on nightmare fuel path now
steep path
To be clear, that old duke resprite is going down the toilet, right?
Will any part of its design be used as inspiration for the new guy?
trail oriole
🧘♂️ prob not
dusk bronze
oh damn
steep path
Ooh good to know
raw falcon
why is od going to be murdered in cold blood again?
azure oak
boring
dry whale
why is od going to be murdered in cold blood again?
wha
barren nacelle
I hope at some point there’s some sort of overhaul to the generation of the Sulphurous sea, primarily the land parts, because it just feels messy rn
vivid hemlock
truth duke
azure oak
acid rain tier 3 will allow you to summon the horrors
valid crypt
The horrors yay!
amber furnace
To be clear, that old duke resprite is going down the toilet, right?
Will any p...
☹️
why did it get scarpped
final pine
i cannot wait to see resident evil monsters in my acid rain
trail oriole
why is od going to be murdered in cold blood again?
pig that is flying
twin juniper
I’ll miss the boiled chicken
trail oriole
the boss is as interesting as is seems and the fight is literally non dependent on the design as it can be
replace old duke sprite with EOC recolored to fit acid rain and you have the same exact fight
and its just a lazy design choice
amber furnace
not interesting creature
*very interesting creature
kind maple
And shit covering him
final pine
replace old duke sprite with EOC recolored to fit acid rain and you have the sam...
acidsighter
dusk bronze
isn't that the infected eye from MoR
final pine
no it's fandom wiki stuf
valid crypt
Oh
kind maple
Dron
valid crypt
And thats boring :/
valid crypt
Just cause its meant to be that doesnt mean its good
final pine
like in between an amalgamation of vengeful souls and a god-devouring serpent you have a pig fish with aids