calamity-update-talk

[hazy pine]

Woah pal that's not nice

Take a chill pill

[thick coyote]

"lets make a ram dash boss tutorial and have the tutorial boss be harder than the bosses its a tutorial for, also the first 80% of the fight is filler and has almost no threat of killing you"

great boss

[valid crypt]

Maybe
Was busy getting confused as to why the hp bar said over double thr max hp

[hazy pine]

Yharon Infernum is

A mess

Imo

[thick coyote]

its my favorite fight in the mod so disagree

[oblique escarp]

he's just fine imo

[thick coyote]

but also this is not spoiler talk anymore :P

[hasty tangle]

yharon is like the most similar boss between basecal and inf

and yeah, this is a certified #calamity-addon-talk moment

[hazy pine]

I mean we aren't derailing a previous convo so like

[oblique escarp]

but yeah we can all agree infernum old duke is garbage

[valid crypt]

I nuked the guy post dog so idk

[oblique escarp]

btw how good is eternity death exo mechs?

[thick coyote]

to get us back on topic

i cant believe last night i missed 676

i mean i guess i had some uh

other life stuff going on

[hazy pine]

What

[thick coyote]

but still cant believe i missed it

[hazy pine]

676?

[oblique escarp]

it looks really good but idk if the fight is good

[thick coyote]

yeah

change 676

Ravager finally exists again

[hot pebble]

663 - Queen Slime no longer farts.

[thick coyote]

they fixed that issues that they doubled down on for the longest time

thank god

[hasty tangle]

you can still ram through them i assume

[valid crypt]

Gay sword when

[lean relic]

Ruined again....

[hot pebble]

[thick coyote]

yeah but thats better than the state it was in before

[oblique escarp]

ram dashes my beloved

[thick coyote]

ram dashing through it at least feels like you outsmarted the boss

[valid crypt]

Maybe the issue i had of ravager was that i didnt know the pillars did nothing when not moving so i avoided them properly…

[thick coyote]

and things that make the player feel smart are good additions to a boss

like maybe im jsut an idiot but it took me 4 playthroughs before i considered that tactic despite always using a ram dash

[atomic bay]

smells like cal spoiler in here

[thick coyote]

i mean we were talking about the ravager changes

so yes

[atomic bay]

new earth resprite

[dense sundial]

Strategies that kinda invalidate an aspect of a boss are good if you have to noticeably work your brain to execute them

But with base Rav you just hold D and sometimes dash

[thick coyote]

this is a cool sprite but what is this actually

[oblique escarp]

when a weapon is really fun to use but there's nothing to use it on

[atomic bay]

penetrator sprite i made for fargos

[thick coyote]

ahhh ok

good job!

it looks awesome

[atomic bay]

does he know? use it on mutant ex

[thick coyote]

is it lke a moon lord drop it has his color scheme

[atomic bay]

have you never played fargos souls mod?

[thick coyote]

nope

[atomic bay]

go play it NOW

[thick coyote]

ive only played vanilla once and then calamity

[atomic bay]

⚡ ⚡ ⚡

[valid crypt]

Play fargo souls its actually pretty fun

[thick coyote]

i dont doubt it but im lowkey only into calamity, i dont even really like vanilla anymore

[atomic bay]

yeah its like an unofficial extreme difficulty for terraria

dont start with maso mode tho

[atomic bay]

calamity players forcing themselves to play 1.4.5 when it comes out

[thick coyote]

i have no plans to do so

[atomic bay]

missing out on peak is insane

[thick coyote]

i dont even know anything about 1.4.5

[atomic bay]

fargos souls even has many addons for calamity meaning you can merge them together

[valid crypt]

Whips

[thick coyote]

i see

[valid crypt]

More of them

Every boss may have a unique theme??

[atomic bay]

yeah 1.4.5 finally finishes summoner, including new reforges

deadcells stuff

etc

[oblique escarp]

new twins theme is really good

[valid crypt]

Ye

[thick coyote]

i have considered doing that before to add some spice to a playthrough plus making the soul of eternity just sounds like a fun thing to have another multi hundred hour playthrough

(i love those)

[oblique escarp]

btw which calamity whip is being added first?

[thick coyote]

isnt it the sunken sea one

[valid crypt]

Probably just a bunch at once since they wont be added till summoner gets nerfed hard iirc

[thick coyote]

this was months ago but i swear i heard a dev mention that wed get one whip in part 1 as an appetizer

and then the rest in part 2

but take that with a grain of salt

[atomic bay]

im more excited for the yoyos

[valid crypt]

Taking it with an entire mountain of salt
i aint believing that unless shown cause shit summoner does not need more power

[oblique escarp]

is there a way to cheese infernum old duke or at least beat him easily

[atomic bay]

fight him with post dog gear

[fringe quiver]

my name is cheese

[fringe quiver]

WHAT

[oblique escarp]

I've done loads of infernum playthroughs but only beat old duke on tier once

[molten grove]

i entered my evil arc and stopped including resprites unless big 😈

[azure oak]

damn

[molten grove]

the compilation images will never recover…

[boreal edge]

YuHbliteration

[fickle sparrow]

What wings are those in the happy calamity day spoiler video?

[worthy halo]

Hey guys no more angler abuse new changlog

[azure oak]

wings of rebirth

[thick spire]

Yeah I think the angler abuse is a product of 2018

[fickle sparrow]

Ah thx

[azure oak]

aka resprited & renamed drew's wings

[fickle sparrow]

Was that in the hotfix or is that in next upd?

[thick spire]

(Though would be funny if you could feed trashers like items from the inventory)

[azure oak]

hotfix

[thick spire]

Wait there’s two orios

[fickle sparrow]

Ah thx

[fickle sparrow]

Oh

[azure oak]

oh

[thick spire]

Damn how do I tell them apart

[pulsar cobalt]

lets force them to fight each other

and the winner takes the others identity

[azure oak]

frederick fazbearington the third

[fickle sparrow]

Federigo fazbear

[fringe quiver]

oh wait right sand dollar got reworked

that was one of amidias's items

i'm intrigued by how you'll obtain em since iirc amidias shop is dying

i imagine atleast a few will just be quest rewards from him

but some might be interesting as just having alternate sources..

hm

minus urchin flail and coral cannon because those are dying..

okay okay

here's !! my predictions

[fierce nebula]

Amidas’ shop is getting removed?

Are they turning into drops

And chest loot

[fringe quiver]

we dont know

[fierce nebula]

It would be weird if everything there was just removed

[lyric trellis]

Bribe crabs

[fringe quiver]

its not

tahtd be dumb

shellshooter, waywasher, amidias trident - quest rewards
sand dollar, enchanted conch - scavenger bartering
snap clam - clam or maybe king clam drop?
polyp launcher - polyperil drop...?

anyways

these

r my predictions

[lean relic]

I'm still not ready for SSO

[fringe quiver]

amidias trident, assuming it dosen't go through any sort of retheming, is definitely gonna be a quest item right

theres no way it isn't one

[fierce nebula]

Quest?

[pulsar cobalt]

yes amidias is getting quests

[fierce nebula]

Waow

[fringe quiver]

and i can't think of how you'd obtain shellshooter and waywasher otherwise and they have a similar aesthethic to amidias trident so i'm gonna bet on them also being quest items

[pulsar cobalt]

waywasher from a deprecated library structure in timeless shores

🤩

[fringe quiver]

enchanted conch and sand dollar both feel like things you'd obtain from bartering with scavengers, because i mean yeah i think they could get those two from just digging around in the sand for stuff

snap clam is self explanatory

polyp launcher is also self explanatory

[dense sundial]

Isn’t Waywasher rework Really Strong

Or was it not balanced before it was shown

[pearl sentinel]

it gives the same energy as "guys, you know how mario eats mushrooms, what if they were like, DRUG MUSHROOMS, and mario was HIGH, wouldnt that be so FUNNY bro?"

[thick coyote]

wait waywasher rework has been shown?

i havent seen it

[fringe plover]

Is the rework of murasama and Devourer Of Gods official? I saw a channel talking about it...

[azure oak]

yes

not next update but murasama and DoG will be reworked eventually

[dull heart]

hi

[azure oak]

hello

[fringe plover]

Oh, ok, thanks

[azure oak]

idk about the state of it but DoG's gonna become this probably

[rough vine]

ugly worm

[stiff light]

hope this helps

[pulsar cobalt]

both !

[stiff light]

one is evil

[valid crypt]

One is yaoi but with a bit of yuri
One is yuri with a bit of yaoi

[fringe quiver]

i was bored

[pulsar cobalt]

yaoi one

[pearl sentinel]

wheres goku

[stiff light]

actually they are both evil

[vivid hemlock]

whos goku

[pulsar cobalt]

i think cheese has gone insane

[pulsar cobalt]

WHAT

also

[azure oak]

golk u

[pulsar cobalt]

hows goku

[fringe quiver]

somewhere

[stiff light]

taylor figuring out whether they should be a misogynist or misandrist

[hazy pine]

gay sword

[azure oak]

what if calamoty had roadmap image as well

[hazy pine]

what if calamitas was transgenor that'd be teh epic

[silk terrace]

one day without changelogs and this channel has lost its mind

[stiff light]

we already have yharim 🙄🙄🙄

[valid crypt]

Gender change potion:

[hazy pine]

not,.enough

i need MORE

[azure oak]

a day without changelogs but a year without a major update

[hazy pine]

hawk tuah is as old as calamity update..

[pearl sentinel]

changelogs
1 - added vergil

[pulsar cobalt]

ive singlehandedly decided that guardian defender is transfem

[azure oak]

wish there concrete plans so i could make roadmap

[silk terrace]

vergil is copyrighted unfortunately

all we have is the chair

[dull heart]

it's not even been a full day

[silk terrace]

good point

[hazy pine]

add gerbil instead

[stiff light]

gerbil :)

[hazy pine]

i am the rain that is encroaching

[pearl sentinel]

this is glorpshit

[remote bay]

Out of curiosity what’s the status on sunken sea worldgen

[remote bay]

Or is that classified

[azure oak]

rod map...

[valid crypt]

Crab

[valid crypt]

Freddy????

[brave star]

Feesch

[azure oak]

would be nice because calamity got big plans

[fringe quiver]

dude this chat is going insane

[vivid hemlock]

did like

something click

what is happening?? 😭

[valid crypt]

Not even changelogs can save this chat

[azure oak]

auric freddy

[vivid hemlock]

changelogs are like a drug, its temporary

[fringe quiver]

auric freddy

[valid crypt]

auric freddy

[azure oak]

new yhargle design be the frederick auric

[valid crypt]

repost to delay sso

[vivid hemlock]

22 nights

[fathom girder]

repost to delay sso by another 5 years

[azure oak]

auric freddy

[pulsar cobalt]

wheres goku

[fathom girder]

lorde freddy when

[remote bay]

Very informative indeed

[stuck kite]

i like fish

[remote bay]

So is Freddy the new boss instead of yharim

[azure oak]

another one??

this scam's spreading fast

[remote bay]

Uh oh I clicked the image

Is that bad

[vivid hemlock]

it shouldnt

[final pine]

your account is gone muhahahahaha

[remote bay]

Darn

[azure oak]

a

[vivid hemlock]

very fabled

[azure oak]

my autism comples me to compile information and roadmaps work well

[brave star]

My autism prevents me from having public creativity

[stuck kite]

checks out

[vivid hemlock]

shouldve drawn brimmy

[brave star]

Can I have a clean sprite of triangle mauler?

[azure oak]

honestly i might make a proper version of at least the first one if i get a good look at the DS sprite

[brave star]

Thx

I wonder what triangle’s Cragmaw mire will look like

Same with the Nuclear Terror

[final pine]

the black box is not a censor it's the actual sprite

complete with the lol

[arctic cliff]

add like an option for xeroc and noxus at the end

[dense sundial]

dya think there will be a sulph and/or abyss update that comes with the fish of theseus

[brave star]

What’s the fish of Theseus

[final pine]

devs probably don't want to scope creep sso even more

[dense sundial]

that's not what i said

what

[final pine]

ok then i have no clue what fish of theseus is

[pulsar cobalt]

old duke

[azure oak]

old duke re-everything

[pulsar cobalt]

hes most likely gonna lose the duke part

will still be an old dragon just not a fishron specifically

[final pine]

oh so like storm dragoon but a boss not a weapon

[azure oak]

it being part of a sulph / abyss update instead of something more standalone

[final pine]

would be nice considering sulph sea is kind of just 'place you go to get scoria™️' at the moment

[dusty tinsel]

Fish dragon

Fimish

[valid stag]

My deranged theory; Sunken Sea 1/2 -> sky island update -> brimstone crags -> astral infection -> dog -> yorhm

[azure oak]

idk if sky island update would be one of the major biome updates

[valid stag]

Not necessarily major

[azure oak]

between the updatess would be smaller updates of course

[valid stag]

Exactly!

The sky island stuff I think we have seen and know more about than even sunken sea part 2

[azure oak]

there's a couple of smaller updates laready known

[raw pendant]

You ask stuff like this alot lol

[azure oak]

like hadean wilds

[raw pendant]

Reminds me of me kindaa

So no shame but I always see you say smth like that

[valid stag]

What... is that...

[azure oak]

underworld generation changes

[valid stag]

I lurk a lot so I don't know why I haven't seen stuff on it 😭

They seem to be going in progression order and filling/changing other things on the side

[pulsar cobalt]

stip posted an image of it

or well

a structure

that will be part of it

[valid stag]

Show me... if that information is allowed to be shared...

[pulsar cobalt]

it was sometime in this channel

[valid stag]

Thanks

I MUST DIG!!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295244891559034922/1363161803361615982/SPOILER_mothPuter.gif

This is why I lurk.

[fathom girder]

you should chat here more

[strong isle]

Hadean Wilds is not actually an update! It's a sort of content pack
It will most likely come out in SSO P1

[azure oak]

oh!

neat

[strong isle]

As 6 of the 12 structures are already in the main branch

[fathom girder]

oh shit really?

nice

[arctic cliff]

#spoilers message

[azure oak]

stip do you think i should properly make at least the SSO part 1 section of this roadmap shitpost

[fringe quiver]

distortion update is the most accurate one

truly

ugly bitch and gay man

[brave star]

I’m mostly curious about spoilers and teasers for the doc and whatever stuff hasn’t been revealed yet

[lapis oak]

Half a day without changelogs

How do I live

[brave star]

Yup

We live by analyzing previous spoilers

[azure oak]

And shitposts

[fringe quiver]

help me

[thick coyote]

gfdi

[azure oak]

Gok u

[pulsar cobalt]

WHATS GOKU

[brave star]

The tiny heavy weapons guys

[silk terrace]

What abt the dying shard

[azure oak]

Auric freddy

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[pulsar cobalt]

hows goku

[hasty tangle]

you can mark a message in changelogs as unread and then just pretend theres new changelogs if you want

[fringe quiver]

this chat is going insane

this is like r/arkhamasylum all over again

[brave star]

New scal sprite so hard ngl

[amber furnace]

ravager rework tomorrow

[silk terrace]

I see

[brave star]

The clam king and its giant clam

[arctic cliff]

aslyum deus

[silk terrace]

Im gonna ravage the ravagar (haha)

[lavish otter]

It's...it's King Clamity, no way...

[frozen shore]

glad to see that QS has gotten a better feeding habit

[fathom girder]

quatic scourge

[frozen shore]

Qod Slime

[fathom girder]

oh

[amber furnace]

655 - Added a right click to violence
does this mean that it will get a melee swing 2nd attack

[lapis oak]

No

Why would you want that on Vioelence out of all weapons

[amber furnace]

wait what weapon is the violence again? I might be mistaken then

[mortal sinew]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Violence

[amber furnace]

its a melee weapon so why not

[vivid hemlock]

this is sick

[fathom girder]

why is legend of zelda fairy

[arctic cliff]

I will bring you a new understanding of violence.

[lapis oak]

Abyssmal take 👎

[vivid hemlock]

guys

[lapis oak]

Wat

[vivid hemlock]

talk about the actual potential spoiler and not another boring melee weapon

[dusty tinsel]

Old Scal thing became eyeball squid

[pulsar cobalt]

why the FUCK is navi being added to calamity

[fathom girder]

why did the cryogen thingy become navi

I don't get it

[vivid hemlock]

tobias is evil

he's adding navi

[arctic cliff]

kiri, you have bigger balls than... fargo mutant ig? because yknow? your own assumption that your take is cold, when it... it's quite...

[dusty tinsel]

It's no longer just a floating ice shard

[fathom girder]

now it's a floating orb

[arctic cliff]

its hotter than brimmy, thats what.

[lapis oak]

Fuck is navi?

[fathom girder]

navi

[dusty tinsel]

It has wings

[fathom girder]

from leged of zeldur

[arctic cliff]

OH SHIT

[amber furnace]

explain

[dusty tinsel]

It's the fairy that says hey listen

[lapis oak]

Never played

[arctic cliff]

i thought ya'll were referring to the blue alien catgirls

[vivid hemlock]

???

[fathom girder]

??????????????????

[arctic cliff]

[dusty tinsel]

I would say I should ban you for that but I haven't played zelda either

[fathom girder]

no there are no blue alien catgirls in zelda

[lavish otter]

Ohhh, I forgot that's what these are called

just with a ' in the middle

[vivid hemlock]

this thing has a name???

[dusty tinsel]

Those aren't catgirls

[vivid hemlock]

i just called them the avatar aliens

[lavish otter]

They're kinda catlike

[dusty tinsel]

Yes their species has a name

[arctic cliff]

yeah they even have an entire fucking language

[vivid hemlock]

the only blue people i recognize are smurfs

[hard copper]

navi

[lapis oak]

How are they cat... wtf...

[dusty tinsel]

The second movie took so long to come out that no one even remembered the first movie

Ears

I guess

[lavish otter]

This...leads me to disturbing thoughts

[dusty tinsel]

Smurfs swear by saying Smurf

[pulsar cobalt]

WHAT THE SMURF

[vivid hemlock]

holy smirf

[dusty tinsel]

Yep

Their species name is a swear word to them

[vivid hemlock]

the demon of babylon

[lavish otter]

Also it's kind of funny, because LoZ styled "ball with wings" fairies have been in the game for a while now, it's just weird to have one of them be an enemy

[vivid hemlock]

final boss of calamity

[lavish otter]

...outside of the Hallow one, come to think of it

[agile latch]

Tobias just posted terror in calart

[vivid hemlock]

nuclear terror????

[dusty tinsel]

Me heading there right now

[lavish otter]

Wait, was that actually the nuclear terror?

[arctic cliff]

nah you dont need to

DAMN

[agile latch]

No

[vivid hemlock]

damn

[arctic cliff]

LMAO

same mind moment

[fringe quiver]

when the terror is nuclear

[shell sapphire]

What in the hell is that?

[vivid hemlock]

so thats the nt design

[lavish otter]

I thought he was messing around, and it was the Old Duke replacement

[vivid hemlock]

ykw

its peak

[shell sapphire]

bro looks like a dark souls boss

[vivid hemlock]

[dusty tinsel]

Truth duke

[frozen shore]

what the fuck does this even mean tho

[vivid hemlock]

truth duke

[fringe quiver]

truth duke

[arctic cliff]

truth duke

[frozen shore]

truth duke

[trail oriole]

truth duke

[hasty tangle]

j

[dusty tinsel]

Why does that one guy have the truth duke attached to it

[trail oriole]

ill explain the design in

10 minutes

[frozen shore]

im a white name person, i cant send the old duke sticker

[agile latch]

The duke of truth

[dusty tinsel]

The nuclear terror has an ogisucle on its head

[lapis oak]

Ok Tobia

[main falcon]

They made my goat Mastertron boring

[dull heart]

what if I undid changelog 676 🥺 😁

[brave star]

WHAT THE

[thick coyote]

that would be not very epic

[dull heart]

what if I made it more epic

[brave star]

insert Tenna mamma Mia what the meme

[azure oak]

Nuclear terror has rejected bug in favor of the horrors

[nocturne osprey]

that would be very epic

[arctic cliff]

what if you just replaced it with infernum rock pillars

that would be

[dull heart]

what do infernum rock pillars do

[lavish otter]

Ah damn, I must've deleted it
Does anyone have the old Nuclear Terror teaser with the black box over it?

[arctic cliff]

they're very interesting

[main falcon]

Are the pillars gonna burst and spread on 6 proyectiles

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

That would be epic

He's the goat with this one

[dull heart]

what if I made rock pillars ram-proof

[main falcon]

I thougth the Master esqueletron was cool

[arctic cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR9lEHbOWtQ

something like that

[main falcon]

Why are his changes being remived

[shell sapphire]

What

[dull heart]

what

[main falcon]

Felts like a micro finalboss

[arctic cliff]

Master eqsqueletron prime was the absolute worst boss to fight against

[dull heart]

what if I gave ravager cultist lightning

[main falcon]

Skill issue

[rose laurel]

Doze you should explain the thing or else people will think you're making Ravager even worse

[kind tinsel]

MAKE RAVAGER WORSE

[arctic cliff]

oh

oh no

[main falcon]

I saw

[shell sapphire]

Shield

[thick coyote]

oh you made them solid like you said

[arctic cliff]

oh yes

[thick coyote]

based

[shell sapphire]

I saved

Jk

[hasty tangle]

does that mean you can mine them with a pickaxe

[thick coyote]

LMAO

[dull heart]

no they're NPCs

[hard copper]

Same?

[dull heart]

Sorry

[shell sapphire]

It’s official bro has to show it now

[thick coyote]

"picksaws your wall"

[dull heart]

I did think about like

pickaxe

[main falcon]

So we can kill them with The cactus balls

[dull heart]

but I didn't do it

[shell sapphire]

Honestly, the shield looks sick as hell on the player

[dull heart]

this change may or may not happen, depends on if it's actually fun

to rock pillars

[thick coyote]

what shield

[dull heart]

what shield

[shell sapphire]

What was I talking about?

[lapis oak]

What shield

[pulsar cobalt]

r u being clueless or did u not see

[dull heart]

see what

[trail oriole]

nuclear terror is a dragon egg who lives over the moon to feed off of reflected light, it laches on to a host which it uses as a body to grow inside when it's time for the egg to hatch

[pulsar cobalt]

doze the resprite is public we just havent seen it ingame (since sso hasnt released for a year)

[thick coyote]

the screenshot was only there for half a second and i was too busy looking at the player standing on ravager wall

[dull heart]

I definitely didn't send the wrong image on accident mhm

[shell sapphire]

[pulsar cobalt]

asgards valor sprite ingame

[lapis oak]

Leak?

[shell sapphire]

What image?

[pulsar cobalt]

i would pull up the original sprite but uhh its quite old iirc

[thick coyote]

oh i see

[brave star]

What is it again? A aerie structure and biome view?

[pulsar cobalt]

and thatd mean looking thru asset submissions (i think it was a submission atleast?)

so

yeah

[dense sundial]

that sounds very bloodborne

[vivid hemlock]

valor resprite is public but its from a low quality video

[trail oriole]

wouldnt know

[dull heart]

but the rock pillars, if this change is actually fun, will only deal contact dmg when flying

[pulsar cobalt]

oh its from a video?

[dull heart]

And will basically act like solid walls from player movement

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[dense sundial]

well i wouldn't know either

[dull heart]

Can still shoot through them with piercing

[dense sundial]

i was just curious whether it was inspired or anything

[trail oriole]

this is for something else entirely and was just a mockup btw

[lapis oak]

Actual walls!!!

First we have temporary walls

Now temporary blocks

[dull heart]

also my computer bluescreened so I can't send the right image uhh

sorry

[hard copper]

@brave star Heres my theory on it. The biome outside the windows looks a bit like ibans brimstone crag art. And the windows themselves look very cathedral-esque imo.

[shell sapphire]

[lapis oak]

Nuclear Terror got promoted to dragon

[hard copper]

Ah gotcha ty

[dull heart]

When my computer is un blue

[pulsar cobalt]

wow wat a coincidence it totally bluescreened

[dull heart]

I will send it

[lapis oak]

Everything dragon in my Calamity Mod

[dull heart]

no it genuinely bluescreened

[pulsar cobalt]

#mod-announcements was typing btw

oh cool yharhar plushes

[agile latch]

Did dia already sent his chalice resprite here or in calart?

If yes you would get a bit more knowledge on the trees

[lapis oak]

Ye

[pulsar cobalt]

yea it looks like ravs head

[rose laurel]

Probably cut the Dragon part but otherwise yeah

[trail oriole]

it is a dragon though

not like

lore wise but its a dragon creature

its not a god

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[dense sundial]

wait that is just iban crags colors is it not

[arctic cliff]

i mean i dig dragon body horror

[kind tinsel]

FUCK THERES A NAME FOR THIS

[pulsar cobalt]

convergent evolution

[kind tinsel]

ORNSTEIN

[trail oriole]

its a dragon in the same way betsy is

[lapis oak]

+1 dragon 😋 in my Calamity

[arctic cliff]

(why did stip retcon away the eidolist lore...)

[hard copper]

I think so yeah

[rose laurel]

Bad comparison considering she's not canon lol

[pulsar cobalt]

wat eidolist lore

[fringe quiver]

what eidolsit lore bro had nothing

💔

[arctic cliff]

betsy is an auric dragon who uses the auric soul of portals clearly

[trail oriole]

its a dragon the same way a dragon is a dragon

[dull heart]

ok my laptop is back online

the real image

[iron dew]

scary

[fringe quiver]

suspiciously dragon shaped alien thing that is not actually a dragon

[lapis oak]

Temporary blocks!!!

[cobalt wharf]

why are there two white fried eggs

[rose laurel]

Uuuuuh we should discuss this later it doesn't really matter anyways

[lapis oak]

I've been wanting it to do that for ages!!!

[rose laurel]

Call it whatever you want

[arctic cliff]

eidolist was the one guy who literally didnt need too much lore, his sprite cleanly tells you he was a former cult member that somehow got turned into what looks like a baby eidolon wyrm

[lapis oak]

Doze the goat

[dense sundial]

a dragon that is not a Capital-D Dragon (Terraria Calamity Mod Auric Dragon)

[hard copper]

Might be transformer?

[dull heart]

great description lol

[arctic cliff]

it made more sense when eidolon wyrm sprites were literally just ghost leviathans

[dull heart]

it is not

[pulsar cobalt]

ok yeah and theyre still dragon cult members who were transformed

i see no retconning here

[hard copper]

ah, ig they are eggs then

[brave star]

What’s happening to sea urchin

[arctic cliff]

okay so uh

gimme a sec

[dull heart]

eggs 😭

[pulsar cobalt]

its literally in the fucking bestiary entry that their forms are wyrmlike

[dull heart]

i hate that they do look kinda like eggs in this screenshot

[fringe quiver]

nothing hes being removed

[rose laurel]

Eidolists are infact transformed Cultists

They just have different motives

[pulsar cobalt]

and

[arctic cliff]

#lore-discussion message

[pulsar cobalt]

wait let me make this clear

[brave star]

U ated him as a scoog

[arctic cliff]

okay maybe im confused definitely

[pulsar cobalt]

ITS NOT RETCONNING IF IT NEVER MADE IT INGAME

[lapis oak]

Why are you yelling

[pulsar cobalt]

there just had to put it out there because some people have genuinely argued retcons over undecided stuff

[lapis oak]

No yelling

[dull heart]

fathom swarmer helmet is so silly i love it

[vivid hemlock]

guys we have a lore channel...

[arctic cliff]

i remembered seeing an actual argument between devs around this

[lapis oak]

Anyways, really like pillars now actually have collision 👍

[cobalt wharf]

why he so :P

[dull heart]

we'll see if it stays but

as long as it's actually fun I think it's a great improvement

[lapis oak]

Coooool

[dull heart]

makes pillars actually matter

[cobalt wharf]

can you make it so you get crushed and instantly die if you’re standing under a wall when it lands

[lapis oak]

That sounds great, no

[hard copper]

How do hooks interact with the pillars?

[dull heart]

go through it

they act like regular NPCs to anything besides players

[hard copper]

Hook of dissonance use

[dull heart]

if you get pulled though

[hard copper]

Oh right it doesnt teleport you does it, just very fast pull

[cobalt wharf]

it is a teleport it just doesn’t work if blocks are in the way

you can still teleport through projectiles

[hard copper]

interesting

[dull heart]

regular hooks just do this

[hard copper]

3 eggs

[dull heart]

HoD will go through them

[cobalt wharf]

another fried egg

[buoyant pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-terraria-calamitymod-fabsol-yharim-gif-11628510698791890580

[vivid hemlock]

-1 electron

[arctic cliff]

o jeez i was looking for that one argument and i stumbled back into another argument, one that i was involved in

[brave star]

There should be no damage for those pillars

[arctic cliff]

gah, looking back at that one is making me lose brain cells again

[brave star]

They are best as obstacles

[dull heart]

They won't deal dmg except when they fly though the air

[lapis oak]

🤬

[dusty tinsel]

Removing electrons now how rude

I give kiri back the electron

Back to normal

[vivid hemlock]

fine, +2 electrons

[lapis oak]

What tue fuc...

[dusty tinsel]

Sorry kiri I can't help you vanilla is too powerful

[lapis oak]

Why eggs rotating you

[dull heart]

🤐

anyone's guess

[lapis oak]

[vivid hemlock]

is this the fathom swarmer rework

[dull heart]

no

I'm not even wearing fathom swarmer besides the head in vanity

[lapis oak]

He hasn't touched it

[dusty tinsel]

Fathom swarmer looks kinda funny

[dull heart]

I have touched fathom swarmer

[lapis oak]

Guh

[vivid hemlock]

kirimentia

[boreal edge]

Well you have to touch an armor piece to equip it

[pearl sentinel]

yeah i love infernum

wait

wtf

why

why did discord put me

a month back in the channe

channel

I didnt noticed until i saw a message from fabsol

[lapis oak]

ash baby

[lavish otter]

We must know the context

[vivid hemlock]

id rather not

[rough cedar]

WEAPON REWORKS

[vivid hemlock]

[rough cedar]

also shimmer strcture wwow

[vivid hemlock]

there is a larger ration of sunken sea enemies than weapon reworks this time

[fringe quiver]

its beautiful

enemy economy 📈

[vivid hemlock]

also like, a lot of work is being put into enemies right now

[fringe quiver]

sso content being prioritized over random reworks,,, so peak,,,

[pearl sentinel]

but but but

death master mode astrum deus needs a quadruplet

[vivid hemlock]

old deus flashbacks

anyways i dont remember this being sent here

[lavish otter]

I kind of wonder if the new eidolist is hinting at an eidolon wyrm resprite

[arctic cliff]

the context is that i thought old duke bestiary entry bad, almost everyone else in a discussion disagreed.

[lavish otter]

Ohhhh, makes sense

[dense sundial]

oh don't tell me they're making the crags japan-pilled (positive)

[arctic cliff]

i dont feel like even bringing it up again because being told by literally everyone in that space that apparently you're wrong is... not very fun

[lavish otter]

Eh yeahhh, I get that

[arctic cliff]

but at the very least, knowing that old duke is getting completely reworked, his bestiary entry is probably also going to get rewritten

[vivid hemlock]

well

its a completely new entity

why would it not get a new entry

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean technically it doesnt need to

not once does the entry mention it being a fishron and thats the actual part of od being theseusd

[agile latch]

Its where fell progeny shinryu lives

Dont think crags will have japanese stuff tho besides this guy and some other little stuff

[vivid hemlock]

true actually

[lavish otter]

I don't thiiiink it's going to be a draconic offshoot anymore, which is a big decider there

[agile latch]

It will

[lavish otter]

Oh okay, neat

[vivid hemlock]

yeah that got discussed a few days ago

banished offshoot

[pulsar cobalt]

yeah

[vivid hemlock]

stole frost dragon's soul

[pulsar cobalt]

dragon god

[vivid hemlock]

oh my god youre right

[dusty tinsel]

Which of the last two is the new one lol and what even is that

[white vigil]

Isn’t the very initial idea for the old Duke replacement supposed to be based around an Easter’s wingless dragon?

[vivid hemlock]

eidolist and scryllar

[pulsar cobalt]

both of the right most sprites are new

[vivid hemlock]

passive and hostile form

[pulsar cobalt]

yea scryllar

[vivid hemlock]

for the scryllar

[dusty tinsel]

Oh it's got two forms now

Well will

[vivid hemlock]

eidolist only has 1 form (right-most one)

[pulsar cobalt]

they alr have two forms

[dusk bronze]

it had 2 forms before

it was just unnoticeable

[dusty tinsel]

They always just randomly attack me

[pulsar cobalt]

or well its more like enemy variants

[dusty tinsel]

So I didn't know that

[lapis oak]

Ye why is that

[pulsar cobalt]

like zombie and uhh

[lapis oak]

Passive my ass

[pulsar cobalt]

zombie arm zombie ig

slightly different changes but they overall work the same

[dusty tinsel]

There are a good chunk of zombie variants

[vivid hemlock]

+/- 72 organelles

[arctic cliff]

it used to also spawn in the dungeon

the eidolist

[lapis oak]

I have an amogus zombie variant texture pack

It's peak

[vivid hemlock]

do you guys like weapons

[arctic cliff]

i think they should lean more into the part where the draconic cult has former members being partly turned into "dragons"

[pulsar cobalt]

no fuck weapons

[vivid hemlock]

good

[dusty tinsel]

Why you adding or removing cell organs now lol vanilla

[vivid hemlock]

👁️

[lapis oak]

Fat shoes

[arctic cliff]

we know theres ideas for dragon transformation magic, albeit very... poorly replicated dragon transformation for the player

[dusty tinsel]

I don't know what those even are to know which are current and which aren't

[vivid hemlock]

we already saw the shoes 🥀

[vivid hemlock]

right ones are new

[pulsar cobalt]

is that a different concept for baleful harvester or for the last mourning

[lapis oak]

Play past post ML dummy

[pulsar cobalt]

cuz im pretty sure the last mourning is donor

[vivid hemlock]

harvester

[dusk bronze]

only the leftmost column is current, everything to the right of it is new

[pulsar cobalt]

ah alr

[pulsar cobalt]

wat is deathhail staff meant to be

its

kinda hard to tell

wait that isnt deathhail

uhh

[vivid hemlock]

what staff

skytide dragoon?

the thing replacing the weaver gun

[lapis oak]

That is Worm Steaver spear

[vivid hemlock]

"melee" spear

i didnt really expect dragonpow to get resprited but its a lot nicer

[dusty tinsel]

Some of them have multiple sprites listed hmmm

[pulsar cobalt]

also thats

oddshroom

at the top

[dusk bronze]

it is

[vivid hemlock]

yes

[lapis oak]

It's a maybe

[vivid hemlock]

youre a maybe

[lapis oak]

🤬

[pulsar cobalt]

isnt dpow donor

[lapis oak]

Krilling u

[dusty tinsel]

The red one looks cool

[dusk bronze]

for dragon pow, i like the shape of the second one but the colors of the first one

[pulsar cobalt]

🎉

[dusty tinsel]

I wonder why it got changed

[pulsar cobalt]

i hope the astral sugg gets in

[dusty tinsel]

The what

[trail oriole]

🧘‍♂️

[vivid hemlock]

i NEED naturally spawning plants and fungi

[trail oriole]

can you guess

[dusty tinsel]

I mean it was sold by cirrus

So that's probably why

[pulsar cobalt]

#suggestions-voting message

[dusty tinsel]

To remove the memory

[trail oriole]

n the sprites not up to standards

[pulsar cobalt]

it just needs a grounded sprite iirc

[trail oriole]

and by proxy it got terminated

[dusty tinsel]

It does kinda look less mushroom like currently then the new one

[trail oriole]

and ircc yeah the astral thing is getting real

[dusty tinsel]

Not really odd

[vivid hemlock]

🎉

[dusty tinsel]

It looks like a basic mushroom while the new one looks more odd

[thick coyote]

what astral thing?

[vivid hemlock]

spawning in the astral

[pulsar cobalt]

i just sent it

tupid

💥

[vivid hemlock]

it was from a suggestion

[trail oriole]

odd mushroom may of may not spawn in astral but im unsure if it was even from the suggestion

it was said in a dev vc so

maybe?

[thick coyote]

oh ok

[dusty tinsel]

If it replaced every mushroom wouldn't the effects have to be changed lol

[pulsar cobalt]

#suggestions-voting message

💥 💥 💥

[dusty tinsel]

Because they can't all be toggle able effects 😂

[trail oriole]

YES!

[vivid hemlock]

i love crafting fruits for some reason

[trail oriole]

thats what im saying im unsure if the dev thing came before the suggestion

[lapis oak]

Thumbsup

[dusty tinsel]

Thunbsdown

[pulsar cobalt]

:thumbsmiddle:

[vivid hemlock]

the WHAT

[lapis oak]

You're mid

[pulsar cobalt]

just like remember when the vc happened

tupid

[vivid hemlock]

this is abuse

[pulsar cobalt]

no its not

[lapis oak]

Why are you violent

[trail oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-kingvon-anti-piracy-gif-11226689907079337015

[pulsar cobalt]

shut it

im adding electrons onto your body

eight of them

[dense sundial]

REWORK CARNAGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

a shotel with a really fast swinging combo set could be fun

[lapis oak]

😭

[pearl sentinel]

NO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME!
the eight electrons

[dusty tinsel]

Removing 8 electrons

And adding them to vanilla

[vivid hemlock]

i repel it and exponentially increase it to kiri

[lapis oak]

What the fuck!!!

[hushed hazel]

dark souls 3

[lapis oak]

Tringle did talk about that

Dragonkin Soldier something something

[vivid hemlock]

wrong channel im afraid

[lapis oak]

🥱

[vivid hemlock]

kiri

[lapis oak]

It's about enemy design referenced by those things

[vivid hemlock]

that was not directed towards you

+50 lungs into your bloodstream

[lapis oak]

Then reply to it 🤬

Mimimimi

Unless there was a mysteriously deleted message

[fringe quiver]

odd mushrooms r consumable right

or is it another thing thats infinite

[lapis oak]

Ye

You eat it

It's gone

Fungal Symbiote is going crazy with this one

[fringe quiver]

i like the direction its taking but im unsure abt it being like entirely grey

i feel like if either the stem or the cap had more of a color distinction from eachother itd look nicer

[vivid hemlock]

there was

[fringe quiver]

maybe a light laveder/purple or something

feel like htat'd mix well with the gray

[indigo fog]

Yo why is Dragonfolly a pre skeletron boss, that's kinda wild

And cool

[fringe quiver]

i assume its also unfinished in that department but the top right area of the mushroom could probably use another colored spot

otherwise it feels a little empty

[lapis oak]

I wanna see Aether pinpointed structure

[fringe quiver]

updated CHEESE version

[vivid hemlock]

thatll be 20 bucks

[lapis oak]

The fuck

[vivid hemlock]

im not kidding

😭

[lapis oak]

Patron got every shit apparently

[dusk bronze]

disclaimer: it sucks

[lapis oak]

???

[vivid hemlock]

that is subjective im afraid

[dusk bronze]

incorrect

[vivid hemlock]

i dont really care to debate this

[dusk bronze]

everything i say is objective fact

[fringe quiver]

bizzare

[vivid hemlock]

if you really want to criticize something, be constructive

[dusk bronze]

hey cheese you're alive

[fringe quiver]

no im dead

[dusk bronze]

oh

[lapis oak]

Wow you're just like me except you're wrong

Only I spewk facts

[bronze raven]

dragonfolly becoming prehardmode is interesting

[vivid hemlock]

merkalto what do you think about your spiritual self insert being replaced

[terse dew]

Okay so we're stealing bits now

😡

[lapis oak]

???

[vivid hemlock]

merkalto is old duke

[lapis oak]

Wtf 😨

[terse dew]

You don't know the Merkalto calamity lore

Old Duke is not Merkalto

Sorry

[pulsar cobalt]

its true

hes an old man

shut up

[lapis oak]

I mean we know Merk is a grandpa but

Not that old

[pulsar cobalt]

yes he is

[dusk bronze]

older

[pulsar cobalt]

hes also the guy who found the beach that makes you old

[lapis oak]

😢 that's why he's leaving Calamity Mod

[terse dew]

I must also have amnesia because I don't remember adopting kids

[lapis oak]

Too old

[terse dew]

😨

[dusk bronze]

dementia

because old

[pearl sentinel]

why is aquatic scourge so concerned

[vivid hemlock]

true.......

[brave star]

Shock scoog

[lavish otter]

I could only wonder

[vivid hemlock]

genuine horror

[lapis oak]

Why it starving

[lavish otter]

Draedon nuked the sea

[bronze raven]

pollution

[glacial holly]

Hes supposed to be thriving

[lone echo]

Woah!

[agile latch]

If i see this on red nation..

[dusk bronze]

too late

[fringe quiver]

the masses

[dusk bronze]

2 weeks too late

[cunning sequoia]

this is a different one

[fringe quiver]

face the fear build the future triangle

you must not let the masses control you

[desert path]

aquatic straw

[cunning sequoia]

i will lyk the second its up

[vivid hemlock]

red nation users definitely stalk this channel

[vivid hemlock]

[agile latch]

It will be aqua scourge expert drop ye

Desert scourge is also getting a bag but its a diferent one

[lapis oak]

Real?

[agile latch]

Well the aqua scourge bag would allow you to place 1 (or maybe 2) potioms inside of it and they would become infinite

[lapis oak]

The plans are decided ye?

[agile latch]

Desert scourge is a bag that auto collect natural tiles like dirt, stone and grass and stores them, you can then transform them slowly into sand by interacting with the bag

[agile latch]

Yes

And are on taiga

[lapis oak]

Let's goooo

Love those

[agile latch]

Specifics and stuff still being discussed but base ideia will be real

[thick coyote]

NO MORE QUARRYING AN ENTIRE DESERT FOR BOTTLES

[agile latch]

Like how many potions it can store and how to turn stuff into sand

[thick coyote]

🥳

[agile latch]

Ye

That they should be monopalete again

(It was that , no jk)

[dull heart]

tavernkeep in question

[vivid hemlock]

🥹

[thick coyote]

what

[dull heart]

shimmer ale

[vivid hemlock]

monopallete defender...

[dull heart]

get glass back

[thick coyote]

i hate shimmer beucase you people act like all of that is so intuitive

its not

[dull heart]

L

[mystic eagle]

It's kinda intuitive though

You got an item to find exhumable stuff

[dull heart]

i should go work on the DS bag thing

[thick coyote]

what

[dull heart]

sometime soon

[thick coyote]

we arent talking about exhumes

[dull heart]

what does exhumes have to do with tavernkeep shimmering ale for glass

[thick coyote]

i have no idea

[mystic eagle]

(edited)

[dull heart]

we still weren't talking about exhumes

[lapis oak]

Silva time to sleep mimimimi

Your brain not working

[still bluff]

A lot of the weird shimmer chains aren't intuitive at all, but decrafting stuff really is something you can get used to

[dull heart]

this

i mean

[mystic eagle]

The message said exhume instead of shimmer when I read the message

[dull heart]

the ore one is pretty intuitive

[thick coyote]

it did not

[dull heart]

yeah idt it did

if it did my brain autoreplaced it to shimmer

[still bluff]

Reading comprehension in cst

[thick coyote]

ive never even opened the scal enchantment menu so idk anything about exhumes

but im sure thats fine

[dull heart]

L

aflame is peak

[thick coyote]

i dont play after beating scal/exos

[lapis oak]

L

[thick coyote]

and scal is always last

for me

[agile latch]

Enchantments

[thick coyote]

idk they just arent a part of the game for me since i cba to do boss rush or wyrm

[agile latch]

Trully the mechanic ever

[dull heart]

enchantments are an interesting idea but

really hard to design

[thick coyote]

enchanments are baffling to me becuase they're so late, just seems like a lot of effort for a mechanic that will never be used for that much content

[rose laurel]

Enchantments aren't too hard to design, my problem is that most of them are extremelly convoluted

[dull heart]

from a like

making them actually function

they're kinda hard to do

[rose laurel]

Makes sense

[rose laurel]

Personally I would remove most of them

[thick coyote]

i remember seeing the true melee enchantment in the patron cord back before they were released and then being so dissapointed by how late it was

[lapis oak]

Wouldn't enchantments being available sooner make balancing hell

[cobalt wharf]

still genuinely think the ideas were fine the execution was just very bad

[thick coyote]

yes, kiri

[cobalt wharf]

and no efforts to patch them up have been made except for like tiny bugfixes

[dull heart]

tainted can be saved