lore-discussion

[leaden bridge]

I was the first venezuelan to ever work on calamity mod and i can confirm

My mother's very proud

[west plume]

if you're caught worshipping a god while serving in the army instead of dishonorable discharge and a court martial they demote you to designated shit sweeper

[heavy sail]

i can't believe you have the world record for most calamiting!

[leaden bridge]

Can you believe it

[sharp barn]

i'll ask here since it seems the most accurate place to ask : did anyone try to "rebuild" the jungle lab ? since it "exploded" when plaguebringer (i think) got out

[leaden bridge]

Draedon kept the hole exactly the same

As you can see in game

[wanton pendant]

No, since the hole is there.

[sacred pilot]

I think Draedon also basically like.

Canned the whole experiment.

[leaden bridge]

Not really

[sharp barn]

yeah, but no builder tried to "patch up" the hole ? I'm trying to make a "mega lab" by taking every biomes' lab, but that means i have a "broken" jungle lab, and i don't know how to patch it up

[leaden bridge]

The hole isn't all that big

Just replicate and extend what's there

[sharp barn]

I'll try to patch it, will see how it goes

[raven brook]

i giggled

[stark flame]

Can Yharim use magic?

[eager bluff]

to an extent probably but it isnt part of his main arsenal

[stark flame]

How do players use magic? Do they rely on magical weapons? And can other characters use magical weapons to cast magic they themselves don't know?

[eager bluff]

how the player uses magic is up to you
and i believe other characters can but my knowledge on that is shaky on top of it not being super explored

[split mortar]

The yomi hustle mod is meant to be accurate to what yharim can do and the mage weapon yharims crystal is an attack so yeah even if its not what he is best at he isnt completely pathetic at mage attacks

[pulsar ocean]

does everyone regenerate mana out of nothing

[split mortar]

If you mean in game then we is it how we do in game though of course terrarian is up to you so eh
Considering many characters and enemies hold magic weapons on them i see no reason they would be unable to use a magic weapon

[split mortar]

I assume thats us refilling our mana by absorbing the ambient mana in the air not making it from nothing

[magic epoch]

Everything has mana

Enemies

i mean

[long scaffold]

I love death laser

[hazy flume]

my theory is that mana is something tied to human soul and it refills the same as our organism turns food into energy to do basic human activities

and mana potions are the same as we drink vitamins or pills

[raven brook]

Well it's definitely not tied to human soul given its not just humans who have it

but if you remove "human" then yeah that checks out

[west plume]

yeah

you take as much as you can hold generally

[wheat walrus]

aren't you a twitch streamer cheese

why r u larping bein a ytber

[raven brook]

Youtuber

[young socket]

no it says youtuber

youre blind

[raven brook]

im the potential streamer

[wheat walrus]

im full of sight which is why i call that larping

[wanton pendant]

Why are you white?

[wheat walrus]

wym

[raven brook]

"when she gets a new pc she'll go crazy!"
"just wait until she isnt stuck on a shitty laptop"
"the collab with jerma will be awesome"

0 streams
0 youtube uploads
7 seals that bind me to this mortal realm

[wheat walrus]

seals you in the prison realm

[young socket]

i should be a twitch streamer and take over cheeses server

[raven brook]

i should

[magic epoch]

there's 7 dreamers this time??

[raven brook]

cant say that here

[young socket]

⁉️

[wheat walrus]

dumbass

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-calamity-reign-of-yharim-roy-reign-of-yharim-yharim-gif-12614240491457572385

[magic epoch]

Why are dumbass and smartass both negative but smart is positive, dumb is negative, and ass is negative?

[raven brook]

fatalito

[wheat walrus]

fatalito

[wheat walrus]

2 negatives make a positive, 1 positive and 1 negative make a neutral

which means that dumbass is a compliment and smartass is a neutral adjective

[timber glacier]

Mr breast

[raven brook]

MR BREAST

GIVE ME MONEY

[wheat walrus]

If you want this mulah, you must larp someone's favorite anime

luffy d monkey

yuji kaisen

[warm gull]

it's ass I'm afraid

[buoyant bloom]

Lore

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[buoyant bloom]

So much lore

[raven brook]

Wait are you aido like, the nat guy

ant

Or are you another aido

[buoyant bloom]

Yeahhh. I lost the gmail account for my other account so I can’t log back in

I only have access to the old account on my pc

[raven brook]

ohhh

welcome back

[buoyant bloom]

Thank you thank you

It’s been a hot minute

[wheat walrus]

You're a green discord chud now

[buoyant bloom]

😭😭

Am I on chud watch?

[wheat walrus]

Dw u get the pass bc discord forcechudded you

[buoyant bloom]

I spent so long trying to get back into my google account

All I need now is popcorns ant picture for my pfp and I’m set

[wheat walrus]

@spring helm

ramanujan

[mighty zenith]

no thats me

[buoyant bloom]

Braelor deadass does like ants

[spring helm]

Hello

[buoyant bloom]

You are my savior

[sinful adder]

What would the calamity cast think about A Bug's Life

[heavy sail]

yharim sees himself as flick, but little does he know, he's really hopper

[warm gull]

aido do you want back in sscls

your old account is still there

[buoyant bloom]

I would absolutely love that

[magic epoch]

stinky chungus 25! It's supposed to be a SECRET!!! SHAKING. MY. HAMBURGER.

[warm gull]

who you gonna tell? the admin?

[eager bluff]

yeah we're telling cheese

[west plume]

can i be in sscls

[warm gull]

give me a moment

[feral skiff]

what would the calamity cast think about Calamity Mod

[pulsar ocean]

what’s that

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim would not approve of it in its current state

[magic epoch]

Do not worry.

[warm gull]

dont fucking vaguepost about it its just a little side server thats lore centric

mostly a friend server atp

[magic epoch]

sighh

can't have any fun around here

[warm gull]

vagueposting isnt fun

the sscls stands for super secret calamity lore society just so nobody asks about that

[magic epoch]

might as well remove the secret at this point

super calamity lore society 😎

[leaden bridge]

I should be invited there I'm not sure many people in there would think it's a good idea though

[sinful adder]

They let me in, they'll let anyone in

(actually I left because I was bored a while back)

[leaden bridge]

Fascinating concept i just let my servers rot

I am like the number one calamity lore person (which is like saying i am a wounded veteran) so i feel it'd be pretty cohesive thematically

[sleek halo]

Oh yeah? What’s Yharim’s top 15 favorite things?

If you guess number 14 you get a lollipop.

[leaden bridge]

It's just like 15 different normal stuff but the dragon version and then like bees

[warm gull]

how are you the number one calamity lore person

[leaden bridge]

i simply am

First of all nobody else claims to be so i win immediately

[warm gull]

I mean you can claim to be anything if you want I won't stop you man

good for you

it ain't going in no records book but if it makes you feel better

[leaden bridge]

Thank you stinkychungus25

[warm gull]

awesome

[leaden bridge]

If you think about it calamity lore is this guy

[warm gull]

so you're the #1 vagueposter?

[leaden bridge]

Well, I can't answer that, can I

[visual kiln]

hey guys

avery here

[heavy zenith]

Is Cal lore just one big vaguepost?

[warm gull]

depends on who you ask

[west plume]

:(

[warm gull]

I said hold on a moment

[real silo]

[buoyant bloom]

So

Calamity mod lore

What’s up with the mushrooms? Why is there only one crabulon?

[timber glacier]

Because only 1 crab was dumb enough to go to the glowing mushroom biome

[sinful adder]

I think the mushrooms should be related to the dragon of death

The mushrooms are full of mana and do necromancy

And they have a will of their own

Also, random thought

Is the life force of a creature a quantifiable thing?

[timber glacier]

I don’t really think that would necessarily mean that and also like why the dragon of death they were just about death

[sinful adder]

When that quantity reaches zero, it dies surely. So then... What if you had negative life? What if it could get deader than dead?

[eager bluff]

this i believe is undeath

[sinful adder]

If that were the case then healing and damage would be reversed

[timber glacier]

Also like I don’t think that the mushrooms are literally using like necromancy to fight with crabulon I think like they’re moreso puppetting its body

[sinful adder]

Undeath seems more like sending life back up again after it was zero

Counterpoint: all known forms of necromancy are puppeting bodies

[timber glacier]

Yeah but like mushrooms can like do similar things irl by controlling the bodies of like bugs so I doubt this is literal necromancy

[sinful adder]

In that case it's mind control rather than necromancy

Because the bug is still alive

At least somewhat

[eager bluff]

ok but i wouldnt call me putting a fnaf endoskeleton in a corpse necromancy

[timber glacier]

Also do we even know mushrooms are full of mana, like where is that said

[agile matrix]

they took a ghost and put it into a body to let it live again

[timber glacier]

Like I don’t really think theres really anything as far as I’m aware that like ties mushrooms directly to mana

[sinful adder]

Mana potions

All mana potions are made with glowing mushrooms

[timber glacier]

Well its only used when making mana potions from lesser ones no other ones use glowing mushrooms at all but fair

[timber glacier]

Its only basic mana potions, greater and super mana potions don’t use mushrooms at all and neither do lesser mana potions

[sinful adder]

Oh

[timber glacier]

Also the mushrooms don’t seem to increase the amount of mana in the potion since two lesser mana potions have the same mana as a mana potion and the recipe needs 2 lesser ones

[sinful adder]

Ok so they are a source of mana, they're just not a super special one

Oh

[buoyant bloom]

Okay, so are the mushrooms infused with mana then? If so, how are they becoming infused?

Cuz aren’t the mushroom biomes natural to the world?

[sinful adder]

We don't know

Some NPCs indicate they aren't but that's probably just the witch doctor being racist

[timber glacier]

Glowing mushrooms might have mana in them but like idk maybe the amount they have is like absorbed from like the ground or something or maybe from like decaying bodies of like dead animals in their caves

[sinful adder]

They do seem to have a will

They remind me of the astral infection

[timber glacier]

Mushrooms definitely are weird cos some are like just a living thing which are sentient

Like the truffle is just a person

I do actually wonder what would happen when an astral infection would actually like happen to take over a mushroom biome in the lore, like would the mushrooms be like infected and stuff

[sinful adder]

The way the glowing mushrooms animate the dead makes it seem like they have a cohesive will, at least as much of one as the astral infection

[buoyant bloom]

Astral infection no diffs glowing mushrooms

[heavy zenith]

It'd be like cell vs gohan but its hive minds fighting for control

[warm gull]

astral infection vs the actual hive mind

corruption

[timber glacier]

astral infection would anihillate the hive mind itself

[warm gull]

hive mind is getting retiered to post ml bruh

[buoyant bloom]

Ohhhh yeah I lowkey forgor

[timber glacier]

well then yeah hive mind wins but like as is hive mind looses

[warm gull]

im not

asking about which one wins a slugfest

im asking which one is a more powerful hivemind

like could the astral infection out hivemind the hive mind

[buoyant bloom]

Probably astral infection

[timber glacier]

oh probably the astral infection I feel cos like it has a lot more things it explicitly taken over

but the strongest hive mind in calamity is probably noxus

[buoyant bloom]

Id honestly have to compare which biome has the strongest enemies on average

[warm gull]

i m killing yoy

with hammers

why does the enemy strength matter here 😭

I literally said

NOT a slugfest

[buoyant bloom]

No cuz like

[warm gull]

its an infectivity test

[buoyant bloom]

The astral might have better infectious shit if it can make its workers stronger

Hive minds are only as good as their weakest links

[timber glacier]

I don't actually know if its really something you could compare because we don't know if Hive Mind is even still gonna be a hive mind after the eventual rework

[warm gull]

thats simply not true

a hive mind is not only as strong as its weakest link thats something you say about non hivemind groups

[buoyant bloom]

I mean

[warm gull]

and generally its talking about

mental weakness

[buoyant bloom]

If I was a hive mind

[warm gull]

which is not an issue in a hivemind

[buoyant bloom]

I’d wanna have some powerful ass workers to control

Not some stinky little worm guys

Though a strong worker is nothing if they can’t communicate between each other quickly. I want my hive mind to have a wireless dongle

Not Bluetooth

Which hive mind has better multi device connectivity fr?

[warm gull]

join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting

[sinful adder]

Mushroom zombies are way stronger than normal zombies

They're mid hardmode enemies even when you're in prehardmode

[split mortar]

The astral shrinks while corruption grows so in the long run the corruption wins i think

[split mortar]

Oh

Idk

[sinful adder]

Also btw there are two different types of hive mind and one of them is completely incorrect despite being the one that is used in fiction

[buoyant bloom]

It’s too late, I’ve already portrayed the astral infection as the rage baiting monkey and the corruption as the angry lion

[sinful adder]

I need to rant about this again

The thing about hive minds is that they have no central coordinator or intelligence. By definition, they are intelligent behavior arising from less intelligent parts

The things called hive minds in fiction are the exact opposite of the true definition

An ant queen has zero awareness or deliberate control over the other workers

Same with a bee queen

HOWEVER

[buoyant bloom]

So insects are simps

[split mortar]

Also hi aido long time no see

[sinful adder]

There is a term that correctly describes both situations: a superorganism. A combination of multiple organisms which may be of varying intelligence that act together to form something resembling a single entity

[buoyant bloom]

Oh shit 🍉

[buoyant bloom]

This is actually really interesting. Imma have to do some research now

[split mortar]

Oh thats what superorganism means cool

[warm gull]

I mean yeah cuz the astral doesnt actually spread in the game at all

since it just

wasnt coded too

but I mean lore wise

[split mortar]

The astral lore wise should shrink iirc

[warm gull]

which do you think has a better shot

oh?

whys that

[split mortar]

Stars shrink and the astral is still a star
Gonna re read the atlas bestiary gimme a min

[timber glacier]

Yeah isn't the astral shrinking canonically

[warm gull]

aspen trees

[buoyant bloom]

The two Aido accounts are lowkey a super organism

[sinful adder]

Those are kinda different maybe, idk. They could just be one normal organism that's really big.

[split mortar]

Is humanity a super organism

[sinful adder]

From a certain point of view, yes

But only when we're not stupid and work together

[split mortar]

Ah so never

[sinful adder]

On the other hand, you can consider humanity to be a super organism and consider individualism, as well as the philosophies and economic systems that arise from it, to be a tumor in that superorganism

In a literal sense, capitalism is a cancer on mankind

You can also consider the entire earth to be a superorganism

But at this level it's more philosophy than science

[warm gull]

yes

[warm gull]

but you gotta like lmk when you want an invite

[pulsar ocean]

how secret it is that it took almost 5 hours to be sure

[warm gull]

a little bit

[icy veldt]

t. God of Dogma

[magic epoch]

god of catma

[vivid cloud]

I thought they would have to operate as a hive mind to be a superorganism.

Because it’s like they’re one organism.

[scenic olive]

astral infection

[long bloom]

source??

[scenic olive]

okay what is the context of that question

i just came here and said astral infection

i wanted to ask something then i forgor

[long bloom]

tis joke

[split mortar]

Stars

[pulsar ocean]

does goozma’s weapon goozmaga imply anything about the views of said slime creature

[scenic olive]

i genuinely forgot what im about to ask

[pulsar ocean]

the answer is yes

[plucky hamlet]

wait，Your profile picture is a combination of Braelor and an ant，hhh

[feral skiff]

how did i not notice this 😭

[split mortar]

These lorer newgens not aware of braeant smh my head

[magic epoch]

What's a goozma

Is that the pokemon guy

[timber glacier]

Guzma my goat 💗 💗 💗

[west plume]

hi can i have an invite

[crude musk]

Are recall potions canon

Could anyone run away from any encounter if they just drank a lil recall juice?

[timber glacier]

They’re Probably canon and like all the other things that do the same thing likely are too

[vivid cloud]

Draedon’s oddly never talked about them.

Actually, he doesn’t talk about any teleportation items really.

[cedar path]

he mentions teleporters

[split mortar]

They are wired to your home
Its not what draedon wants

[vivid cloud]

Yeah, you right.

[crude musk]

You'd imagine they'd be annoying to write around

[vivid cloud]

Wait, at what time?

[cedar path]

when you ask him about his future plans I think?

[crude musk]

Also if you find your enemie's home and they just destroy it can't they recall to world spawn?

It feels insanely powerful

[cedar path]

he says he wants FTL travel or long distance teleportation or smth and says our teleporters won't do cause they need to be wired

[split mortar]

World spawn is just where we consider home before making a proper home clearly

[vivid cloud]

Oh.

[crude musk]

Also can't you just spam the conches to teleport across the shoreline or hell

[split mortar]

Yeah draedon wants teleportation that is not set to pre defined locations and able to travel cosmic distances
Which no teleportation method covers afaik, closest is probably the rod of discord but thats not long distance with the amount of pl it controls and primordial light is a bitch to use unless you are eol or xeroc

[crude musk]

How does anyone even die outside an ambush in such a scenario

[vivid cloud]

Never used a conch before and I’m kinda mad.

[split mortar]

If its so easy to get one then its probably easy to follow someone using the same method

[vivid cloud]

He could roid the Miracle Matter.

[split mortar]

Miracle matter has not shown any teleportation properties

[vivid cloud]

Yeah, but for an energy source or something.

[crude musk]

Well yeah ig but recalls would provide a similar out

Just make a home in a random cave and instruct your followers to do the same

And when any threat shows up you just scatter across the world

[split mortar]

Primordial light based teleportation uses primordial light not the energy that miracle matter makes so it does not help with the rod of discord method

[vivid cloud]

Oh, I didn’t know we were still on Primordial Light.

[split mortar]

This sounds not good to do with how the wild life of calamity is a lot more dangerous then irl

[split mortar]

Its the only method that is wireless afaik

[crude musk]

I mean you'd have some sort of fortified box

Also I'm thinking about the gods rn

If they could run away so easily how did yharim even do allat

[timber glacier]

Wait what about pylons couldn’t that be used for that

[split mortar]

They do not work when an invasion happens

And also if they did work the enemy can just follow through them

[timber glacier]

I guess yeah (1.4.5 did change that but still rn they can’t)

[split mortar]

Gods are not weak, just detect their mana signature from a while away
Draedon has eyes everywhere yharim prob used that to make safe retreats like that not safe

[timber glacier]

But like couldn’t draedon set one up on the moon or something if he wants to like go somewhere really far away since they’re wireless

[split mortar]

Pylons require happiness

[timber glacier]

No they don’t they just need 2 people nearby

[split mortar]

And also need one for the specific biome

[timber glacier]

Universal pylons

[plain crane]

the universal pylon

(singular)

[crude musk]

But how would he get to them before they make a new home

Unless draedon is literally omniscient in which case the plot falls apart

[split mortar]

Can you clarify what you mean by this

[split mortar]

Also do pylons even have the reach for reaching the moon

[crude musk]

I mean that it would take more time for yharim to get to the God's home than it took for them to recall

[timber glacier]

Idk if they canonically have limited range since like we can’t put one out of the bounds of the world to check

[crude musk]

And they could run away wherever

[plain crane]

pylons have infinite reach, you could put a pylon in another galaxy and it would still work as long as 2 people are nearby...

[split mortar]

Cool wheres your proof

[plain crane]

the only ingame limit is the playable world

🐴

[crude musk]

I mean the playable world is pretty small

It's only a continent

[timber glacier]

Also like nothing suggests they wouldn’t have infinite range but like idk

[plain crane]

its barely even an island

[timber glacier]

There is also wormhole potions which are also kind of wireless teleportation if you use people as teleporters

[split mortar]

What suggests the lack of infinite range is that it would be absurd that something like that could be make
The setting is a single planet for the most part, how could anyone have reason to future proof something like pylons to the degree of infinite range and how would they even make something like that

[timber glacier]

I mean like pylons are definitely magical in nature we have no clue how they could ever work and like we don’t know what like their range would hypothetically be able to be

[split mortar]

Magic has limits in calamity
I do not think even domains have shown anything of infinite range

[plain crane]

the regular pylons are basically prototypes and the universal pylon is a better one made from knowledge acquired of the limitations of the previous ones

(deep lore)

[timber glacier]

Why does the zoologist got it then

Is she secretly a scientist

[plain crane]

she's not telling everything

🐟

[split mortar]

I did not say anything against that
I just find the notion of infinite range pylons fucking absurd

[plain crane]

the furry design is a distraction, a facade

[timber glacier]

clearly this ties to the golf balls her brother sells for some reason experiencing auric rejection which is normally only for like living beings right

[leaden bridge]

Why doesn't draedon just keep sending vessels off at some point one will get lucky and a codebreaker teleporter module will land on another planet

[plain crane]

which is a valid take btw, its just that i have no reason to believe pylons would be limited since transportation magic is noticeably low energy/mana intake

since its so, soooooo common

[timber glacier]

I do wonder like how teleportation potions function in canon like do you like teleport anywhere or like is it range limited or like what

[leaden bridge]

Would the magic mirror stop working if i considered my home to be threw galaxies away

[crude musk]

I mean he'd have to wire the whole route no?

[leaden bridge]

He doesn't wire the codebreaker

[crude musk]

Oh yeah

[timber glacier]

It is funny thinking about it that cell phones in universe must have like an app that teleports you home like that sounds so nice to have cos they have magic mirror functionality

[plain crane]

he probably has a near perfect transmitter that just beams power where he wants with almost no losses

[crude musk]

I mean he could go to space with that

[leaden bridge]

I could see pylons being limited by the planet because of the magic they use but i have no reason to believe you couldn't make a mars shell

[crude musk]

Maybe the reason he didn't go to space yet is because it's pretty empty and he doesn't feel like it

He said he wanted some measures for the astral for presumably super long journeys

Cause getting hit by astral doesn't just happen every day

[split mortar]

I mean yeah space is empty thats already known

[timber glacier]

I do actually wonder how far mars is in universe to terraria like it must be decently close if the martians arrive like seconds after the probe leaves

[split mortar]

Martians aint on mars anymore iirc
Left the planet due to it being a hell hole
So they could be much closer in space then mars is to terraria

[timber glacier]

Oh yeah True

But like they must be either really quick or like actually just chilling above terraria cos they invade the world in like seconds still

[leaden bridge]

why do they wait for the probe to detect you

The planet is very clearly full of life

As they would be able to tell

[timber glacier]

They dunno if people are there though they aren’t sure

They have Bad eyesight totally

[leaden bridge]

You'd be able to tell really easily there are people here if you were a spaceship spaceshipying around

[crude musk]

Probably a case of game mechanics not loring properly

[leaden bridge]

Also calamity adds another martian probe enemy that spawns earlier I'd like you all to remember so yeah

[timber glacier]

Maybe they identified the terrarian as like a threat and like were going to eventually like come down but like went ahead and instead like were scared of the terrarians threat and just decided to try to kill everyone idk

[split mortar]

Maybe they are scanning life to not be utterly blind about when they land down
Get data on the terrarian and freak out since we are absurdly strong and try an early violent invasion idk

[magic epoch]

thinking about the shellphone irl now, what would the world spawn irl be lol

[timber glacier]

Maybe where you were born

[magic epoch]

World spawn is the same for everyone

[crude musk]

I'm curious what the devs think about recalls cause I still think they're pretty silly

[timber glacier]

Well thats just cause all terrarians appear at the same place

[timber glacier]

Its not too silly theres way weirder things and magic is a thing in calamity and teleporters are explicitly canon so it doesn’t really change much imo

[crude musk]

Makes you wonder why there weren't more providence/sg cases with how easy it is to run away

[crude musk]

Well teleporters need a lot more to work

[timber glacier]

Well theres a fair chance many gods were in their “home” when they died

[crude musk]

Yeah but they could pop a teleportation potion

Or stop thinking about it as their homes

Unless they were killed at their birthplace or something

[timber glacier]

Well but also like it would be hard to pull out a drink and chug it in circumstances like that

[crude musk]

Just inject it

Idk it doesn't break the story

But it still feels too powerful

And annoying to write around so maybe they have a better answer

[split mortar]

Introduce evil wormhole potions that let you follow someone even if they tp away

[timber glacier]

Well you do need fish to craft it and clearly no god wants to do that so that explains it (ignore magic mirror shhhh)

[timber glacier]

Only if your on the same team though

[crude musk]

The magic mirror takes a lot of time

Wormholes shouldn't be canon cause they are pretty story breaking

[timber glacier]

Not really??? Like you have to still be on the same team as the person to tp to them

[crude musk]

What even is a team

Is it a physical thing is it purely psychological

[split mortar]

Thats why i said evil

Because you follow your enemies

[timber glacier]

Oh okay I was confused

I wonder what would happen if you shoved someone into a void vault like could you put a person in it

If so could that be fast travel

[crude musk]

Could you bug net a person

[west plume]

after browsing sscls i have learned that i should not say anything that isn't explicitly approved and released because people think i am a liar for communicating long argued in-dev discussions

[crude musk]

Example: you have one (1) spy in an enemy base and you can tp your entire army there

[west plume]

i think you'd just be sticking someone into a pocket dimension scp 106 style

would not necessarily be fast travel since you have to travel the physical distance still unless you use a regular teleporter/teleportation magic which defeats the point

[timber glacier]

But like could they leave from another void vault placed somewhere else

[west plume]

we don't really have defined pocket dimension rules so im unsure if thats something you can do or not

it would b neat tho

[crude musk]

Also syrup what is your opinion on recalls/magic mirrors/wormholes/the teleportation potion etc

[wheat walrus]

never browse sscls

[west plume]

they were rlly mean to me there

it was unforch

[crude musk]

Any super easy method of instant travel

[wanton pendant]

Relatable.

[wheat walrus]

heartbreaking

[timber glacier]

Is inner tube infinitely accelerating canon? I need dev input on this NOW!

[west plume]

i thiiiink teleportation is canon to calamity in general. let me get an in-dev lore channel statement to back this up due to The Panopticon

in-dev consensus

[timber glacier]

The giant goku top secret sensor must mean goku made the teleporting items

[wanton pendant]

It means that Xeroc (John Teleport) can beat Goku.

[crude musk]

So they've just accepted them

Well thanks for the answer

[west plume]

i am unsure what stip specifically thinks of this topic in the modern day (it's been 3 years since 2023) so i cannot give stip's opinion here

[crude musk]

Ig it does work as a counterbalance against yharim's comically overpowered ass

The weaker gods needed to survive somehow

[wheat walrus]

if u can do it u can do it

[west plume]

not necessarily true

not everything in terraria is canon to calamity and a lot of the lore was made without edge cases in mind

[wheat walrus]

mehh fine

i js feel like a lot of the fussyness this place has abt canonicity is unnecessary

though ig that's me being in my burnout arc and this place might be better these days maybe

[wanton pendant]

Please I don't want to have to seriously consider God from the Bible when the powerscalers come in.

[west plume]

ozz appologized for that in-dev

[crude musk]

A story will be picked apart by those who think about it a lot

[west plume]

including ME

[wheat walrus]

i understand that, and i agree

i just like more holistic views of things

[west plume]

people in sscls were also like actually calling me a pathological liar and it's the most upset i've been the entire month and i had to complete all of my finals on 1000mg of caffeine yesterday

[wanton pendant]

Damn.

[wheat walrus]

leave the cursed place

smh

[crude musk]

What would prompt that?

[wheat walrus]

past controversy

[west plume]

for the latest thing i said that domains were always phenomena - which is true, there's no purely elemental domain and they all describe things that happen or are happening which aren't necessarily material - and people just kinda called me a liar because they thought it made one of their domain ideas implausible despite it changing literally nothing

and it's like ??? why not just ask me about it

[long bloom]

yeah idk what that was about

strange behavior

[west plume]

i think people thought that domains could be elementally inclined because of zaelithar without realizing that combustion is a happening you can experience rather than a material element (water) or physics quirk (heat)

idk its kinda antisocial

may just be a limited thing

[crude musk]

When the lore doesn't align with MY hc

[wanton pendant]

I mean yeah, stuff like water, air, heat and such are covered by non-Auric stuff.
I guess sunlight is the closest thing to doing something that's just a base thing.

[west plume]

sunlight is the experience of the sun or i guess stars in general

sunlight doesn't exist in a vacuum and you can't experience sunlight without a star

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Dirt found dead.

[heavy sail]

big agree to this

[long bloom]

in the dirt

[wanton pendant]

Good news, my god concepts get to live. Bad news, uh, people suck?

[west plume]

Elemental god fans when you tell xeroc to recreate the emission of an incandescent light bulb

[west plume]

i think just rename the domain to Filth and then you have an equally functional domain that includes the negative experience of dirt and everything dirt contains so u have an excuse for them being able to summon worms and vermin

or God of Detritus if you just want it to be soil, compost and leaflitter

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Dirt brought back from the dead!

[crude musk]

Dragon of evil

How could the world soul allow evil to exist smh

[west plume]

Why doesn't the world soul just stop all evil? Is it stupid

[leaden bridge]

Dragon of waste i thought

[west plume]

waste would also be a good domain for it but it doesn't rlly sound dirty

[crude musk]

Perhaps evil is in the moon domain

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Filth preparing to fight Fovos (1037, colourized).

[split mortar]

in calamity sunlight is treated like an actual substance different to normal light though which is what i find odd with the whole “every dragon domain is a phenomena”
Solar fragments which are an actual material is twisted PL iirc
And how would jared tell the difference between PL and any other light

[west plume]

in calamity sunlight is treated like an actual substance different to normal light though which is what i find odd with the whole “every dragon domain is a phenomena”
it is sorta in that it's something that can be described or captured even in real life
Solar fragments which are an actual material is twisted PL iirc
hasn't been talked about in dev at all; see attached screenshot
And how would jared tell the difference between PL and any other light
you can tell the difference between sunlight/starlight and artificial light

in the material sense magic is able to produce mimicries of real phenomena or create matter/energy spontaneously; primordial light magic is aspected but the phenomena of sunlight and every association it has is not necessarily magical

@split mortar

i won't give you any more xeroc information than this tho

the sun's mana has it's own aspect i believe (primordial light) due to the exact same experience of sunlight as elsewhere as well but the sun's light isn't inherently magical

symbolically from terraria's end Sunlight is representative of warmth, light, vision, speed, growth. when you stare at xeroc you are enamoured as if you are staring at the sun because of the symbolic magical aspect and replication of sunlight and not as if you were staring at a guy covered in LEDs

[long bloom]

do other stars emit primordial light

[west plume]

i am unsure if the other devs would be mad at me for answering that

[long bloom]

understandable

[west plume]

unknowable

[long bloom]

make xeroc in game as bright as the irl sun
immediately explode everybody's monitors the moment they appear

[buoyant bloom]

Calamity mod with hdr support so xeroc shines even brighter

[west plume]

this would be cool but we'd have to edit fna for it

[buoyant bloom]

That sounds insanely difficult

[west plume]

the difficult is mostly in convincing the tmodloader devs to allow us to change their fork

hdr is mostly bound by surface format

[magic epoch]

wdym the devs can't make magic

what tbe fuck my whole life perception is ruined

[split mortar]

I see
-# sorry for vanishing my mum was astonished i ate strawberries

[split mortar]

Thats fair

[leaden bridge]

LunarTowerSolar: The fourth and last pillar, created as Sunlight bled and marked doom. A miniscule shard of its power was used to make it, and yet its spawns accompanied the dominator directly in his conquest against the dragons.

Psure the idea solar fragments r primordial light came from here

I knew way before brainstorm about this specifically idk how widespread that knowledge was but I'm pretty sure it was brought up here before brainstorm too

[tall delta]

I think xeroc should do something

[leaden bridge]

He should give me a billion dollars for my birthday

[stark flame]

Does immortality require any conditions in Calamity?

Which characters are capable of immortality?

[split mortar]

Depends on what you mean by immortality since theres a few commonly used definitions that differ
Elementals are immortal unless you explode the planet basically

[magic epoch]

I don't think there's any true immortality

Everything is technically capable of dying

Its just that some things are functionally immortal, where killing them is incredibly unrealistic and nigh impossible

[scenic kraken]

Who would win?
The Calamity Verse

Vs

One french smoking mentlegen with a backstabbing kink

[magic epoch]

this might be a verse that calamity can beat

[soft flame]

countable few are proven or implied with varying methods

-elementals as long as their respective element exists in some form
-Agnus, God of Sacrifice (he only dies if he willed himself to iirc)
-Xeroc hypothetically (implied by a planned story mentioned in the lore doc)
-Yharon if you consider his power of rebirth

though elementals and Yharon can die by apparent means

[split mortar]

I thought it was just
Xeroc is so strong its unlikely anyone will kill him

And as a god is functionally immortal by age

[soft flame]

whoop

didn’t know EVERY god was immortal

[split mortar]

Every god has to be a minimum of like 700 years old

[mighty zenith]

soloed by saxton hale

[strange stump]

hi garbo

[mighty zenith]

hii

[strange stump]

nyehehehehehehehehheheh

[split mortar]

Hiii space

[strange stump]

hello

the member list for some reason glitches on this channel

whatever

anything new lore-wise i should know?

[long bloom]

terraria solar system is heliocentric now

and star lore is being changed

they still have mana, just probably regular star stuff too

[strange stump]

i see

[wheat walrus]

zamn

[split mortar]

Dragon domains are phenomena and domains all break thermodynamics

[wheat walrus]

[long bloom]

oh yeah
auric soul domains are all based on happenings, not objects

[wheat walrus]

keep all this new info away from powerscalers

[wheat walrus]

hmmm

wym by happenings

[long bloom]

and domains work by giving you infinite mana and stamina for using x specific domain magic

[split mortar]

Whuh
Its just all domains make energy from nothing without cost like sea prisms do

[strange stump]

interesting

[long bloom]

things that occur

[split mortar]

Elementals have dominion over a specific physical thing
Like the air or ground
The water domain would say be tides

[wheat walrus]

i see

so events

[long bloom]

yeag

[wheat walrus]

tides, storms, rains, heatwaves

[buoyant bloom]

Braelor likes ants btw

[leaden bridge]

really

[split mortar]

Flame is more specifically combustion iirc

[buoyant bloom]

Yep

[leaden bridge]

wow

You're telling me for the first time

[wheat walrus]

happens

[long bloom]

what's up with dragon of mind then

mind is not a happening

[magic epoch]

goblin

[wheat walrus]

dragon of thought

thoughts*

whatever

buddy

😭

[real glen]

Oops

Wrong link

[wheat walrus]

oh zamn

[magic epoch]

i saw a patreon

[real glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1289043474200399922/goblino.gif

[magic epoch]

Good gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1289043474200399922/goblino.gif?ex=6a072689&is=6a05d509&hm=54a60d0964f85248fc389b2bed730b9188187d4aba0bb3d6d202ac4639d81b8c&

[real glen]

Sorry moderators lol

[magic epoch]

I bless you with my powers

[magic epoch]

spots you typing

[heavy sail]

nooo not my boy...

[silent warren]

from a canonical perspective is the Guide gone forever post-WoF?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

You killed him.

Dead as hell.

[split mortar]

Coming back from the dead fine is mostly a big no no in calamity so yeah no way for him to come back to life

[manic stone]

Why is yharim sad?

[split mortar]

Unable to complete his genocides and his desperation to complete his genocides pushed away his allies due to doing things he sort of regrets

[long bloom]

he didn't get to kill every single god

[split mortar]

🐌

[manic stone]

Free my boy. Wait how did he become powerful?

[long bloom]

100 years of training

and armor that explodes you if you touch it

[manic stone]

He didnt take an auric soul or something? Idk anything about the lore. I learned about Xeroc the other day though!

[split mortar]

Considering scal thinks we are going down a similar path
Probably by slaughtering a fuck ton of shit and using what he could from their corpses to become stronger and repeat for like 105 years

[split mortar]

He refused to consume yharons soul

[long bloom]

the entire crux of his character is that he didn't do that

read yharon lore item

[manic stone]

Kk

[west plume]

Dragon friend

[split mortar]

Also that yeah having a dragon help will prob do wonders

[raven brook]

Keep him locked up bro 😭 😭

[agile matrix]

do NOT free him

he is a loser ass chud who deserves to stay in Hell

[bright phoenix]

I was wondering, if Xeroc was a friend to the dragons and only took Zeratros's soul on his deathbed, could Zeratros have given Xeroc his soul willingly?
I don't know very much about Xeroc, but seeing as he sealed the Terminus deep in the Abyss, could he have regretted what his ascension may have brought upon the Dragons? He still calls the Phoenix (Yharon) an old friend when we use the Terminus, but he also seems willing to propose something to the player when they have it...

[zenith geode]

its a possibility

only xeroc and zeratros know what happened then

[wanton pendant]

Actually, better question, why does Xeroc have a racist friend?

[bright phoenix]

Right, all we know is Yharim's account on it, based third-hand from Yharon's retelling of events

Racist friend?

[split mortar]

Yharons racist

[bright phoenix]

ohhh

[split mortar]

The proposal is fighting noxus theres nothing else it can really be

[bright phoenix]

Huh

that checks out

I'm assuming Noxus the one who is the 'true' master of DoG as well

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

[bright phoenix]

I cant believe noxus is a newer version of mf goozma lmfao

[split mortar]

Xeroc is seemingly someone utterly consumed by duty and feels they are the only one able to protect the planet from the next fovos level event
Boss rush is a test of strength which shows xeroc the terrarian and once noxus is added whats more fitting to have the proposition be then xeroc finally seeing someone prove that he is not the only one to carry the weight of the entire worlds fate and let us help with the existential threat of noxus
-# its late i hope this made sense

[bright phoenix]

Ooohhh that makes sense

[split mortar]

Calamitys past is certainly something

[split mortar]

Yes, and the creator of ceaseless void and the central intelligence that seems to control most life within the distortion

Well they all are not fully confirmed but like, it’s noxus theres not even another theoretical candidate.

[bright phoenix]

i never fail to guffaw in amusement thinking about how many of these really cool bosses and concepts were originally just king slime but eviler and more fucked up

[zenith geode]

moon lord 2

[split mortar]

Moon lord 2 IS NOXUS

[zenith geode]

moon lord 3 then

[young socket]

signus duh

[bright phoenix]

moon lord XII

[split mortar]

This aint fnaf

[raven brook]

moon lord sister location

[zenith geode]

moon lord secret of the biome mimic

[bright phoenix]

Btw does the bestiary have a 'writer'? Or is it more an 'unbiased' source?

[split mortar]

Unbiased and omniscient
No character writes it

[bright phoenix]

gotcha

very cool to contrast it with Yharim's retellings

[split mortar]

I hope as more sources of information get added it becomes clearer that yharim is not the most ideal of people to listen to

[bright phoenix]

its very cool to hear more tellings of the story from different npcs

I wish characters like Permafrost, Amidias, and Clamitas had like a questions tree kind of like Adam from MoR

[split mortar]

Oh uh

[bright phoenix]

And each offered their own take on events

[split mortar]

Dialogue trees are planned

[bright phoenix]

OOOH

HELL YEAH

[split mortar]

For each important cal character

[bright phoenix]

Now this is epic

[split mortar]

And with what we saw like a year ago of the dialogue tree size it seems permafrost alone would have more dialogue then even yharim

[bright phoenix]

Dreams come true

[split mortar]

So amidias, calamitas and permafrost

Hell iirc the dialogue trees were close enough to being finished or already were finished and were meant to come out in brainstorm but idk why they didnt

[bright phoenix]

The bandit could offer us the 'common' perspective of how the state of the world is LMAO

[bright phoenix]

Gotcha, that's something to look forwards to

[split mortar]

Yeah its exciting to have come soon

Anyways i gotta go sleep goodnight lore chat

[long scaffold]

Good night Siffrin from In Stars and Time

[vivid cloud]

What's wrong with Yharim being the speaker?

[wanton pendant]

Because he's a manipulative narcissist.

[vivid cloud]

Yeah, true.
It's interesting, though.
I haven't seen many overarching antagonists being speakers.

[wanton pendant]

Never play Bioshock, or Portal, or Half-Life 2, and so on.

[vivid cloud]

I haven't played those games, no.

[wanton pendant]

How?

[vivid cloud]

I don't know.
I played the GameCube.

[wanton pendant]

Old.
-Guy who played the GameCube.

[buoyant bloom]

Old.

-Another guy who played the GameCube.

[vivid cloud]

Huh?

[wanton pendant]

You're old.

[vivid cloud]

Half-Life 2 was made in 2004.
That's only three years younger than the GameCube.
You're probably older than me😭

[wanton pendant]

Ok, first of all, screw you.

[vivid cloud]

I'm right, aren't I?

[light linden]

smash bros melee released in 2001

[wanton pendant]

I'M NOT THAT OLD!

[vivid cloud]

Bro.
What platform did you play Half Life 2 on?

[wanton pendant]

Steam.

Years after it released.

Since you know, it's literally one of the most famous and influential games ever made.

[vivid cloud]

Not PlayStation 3 or XBOX 360?

[wanton pendant]

No.

[vivid cloud]

I played the GameCube around 11 years after it released.

[light linden]

2012?

[vivid cloud]

2013, I think.

I can't really remember.

[vivid cloud]

So is Super Smash Bros. Melee, but not many people actually play that themselves.

[wanton pendant]

Super Smash Bros. Melee is not remotely on the level of Half-Life 2 in that regard.

Half-Life 2 is the Ocarina of Time of its time.

[vivid cloud]

And did you play Ocarina of Time?

[wanton pendant]

Take a wild guess as to what I'm doing right now.

[vivid cloud]

Right now, I'd guess that you're still not answering my question

[wanton pendant]

Terrible guess.

[vivid cloud]

But it's true, yeah?
You haven't told me if you've played Ocarina of Time.

[wanton pendant]

I am playing Ocarina of Time.

[vivid cloud]

Of course.
On an original Nintendo 64?

[wanton pendant]

No, I don't have one of those.

As I said, I'm not that old.

[vivid cloud]

Hmm. Neither do I.

[vivid cloud]

Yeah, yeah.
You have to at least played ONE 90s game.

[wanton pendant]

I have played dozens of 90s games.

[vivid cloud]

Mhm.

So have I.

Most of them arcade ones.

[vivid cloud]

By the way, you still haven't convinced me that you're somehow younger than me.
The fact that you even care to play those games shows a decent appreciation for older games.

[light linden]

I believe they are 26 years old

[wanton pendant]

WHAT!?

[vivid cloud]

That's a good estimate.

[wanton pendant]

NO IT'S NOT!

[magic epoch]

wtaaetwarging is 20

[wanton pendant]

I'm not...

[vivid cloud]

Bro, you've done nothing but give me reason to call you old😭
You play DOZENS of 90s games. That alone would make me assume you're at least 30.

[manic coral]

older games can be facinating and fun

[young socket]

unc.

[vivid cloud]

Oh, they are.
I play them all the time.

[manic coral]

i'm huge on morrowind for example, and the old fallouts

[light linden]

Hi Cei

[manic coral]

i need to finish deus ex

and all of those are games before my time (i'm 21, for reference)

[wanton pendant]

Please help they're calling me old back me up.

[magic epoch]

so there's a really simple answer

[manic coral]

why would i bakc you up you're like 28

[wanton pendant]

I'M NOT!?

[manic coral]

you have no proof

[young socket]

wwg is like 33

[vivid cloud]

But....
When someone calls me old because the GameCube was my first console, AND THEY'RE OUT HERE PLAYING OCARINA OF TIME FOR FUN, I have reason to be suspicious.

[manic coral]

how old are you

[wanton pendant]

I'M SORRY FOR PLAYING WHAT IS WIDELY REGARDED AS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE!

[light linden]

Warframe:

[vivid cloud]

The best widely regarded game that still not many have played, by the way.

[wanton pendant]

I don't think anyone regards that as the best game ever made.

[bright phoenix]

thats not considered old is it

[rain osprey]

ha. old.

[bright phoenix]

because I would shrivel

[wanton pendant]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT MANY PEOPLE PLAYED OCARINA OF TIME!?

[vivid cloud]

Oh, yes it is.

[manic coral]

you actually ARE lik- wait

i forgot to tell you

[wanton pendant]

I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU REWORK MOON LORD!

[bright phoenix]

☠️

[young socket]

son u just a washed chud unc dont be serious 😭 🥀

[manic coral]

hrt starts soon for me

[rain osprey]

hell yeah

[vivid cloud]

Oh, so you KNOW people who've played that?
Funny.
I KNOW NONE.

[bright phoenix]

21 can't be old......... I refuse.

[manic coral]

precription should come in soon and i have a blood test first

[bright phoenix]

I only just got to drink

[light linden]

I never said I wasn't old

[wanton pendant]

HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW A SINGLE PERSON WHO PLAYED OCARINA OF TIME!?

[young socket]

replied to the wrong message

dies of death

[manic coral]

the dier

[wanton pendant]

DO YOU ONLY TALK TO LITERAL TODDLERS!?

[magic epoch]

I know my brother did

[vivid cloud]

Because I don't have MILLENIALS as friends.

[bright phoenix]

they gotta

[magic epoch]

He's 25 btw

[wanton pendant]

WHAT THE HELL IS A MILLENIAL!?

[bright phoenix]

ayo im solidly gen z and i played ocarina

[vivid cloud]

[heavy zenith]

Kullervo mains wya

[magic epoch]

Wait oh my god he's not 25

He's 26 but soon to be 27

[young socket]

what you are, you 37 year old

[manic coral]

i'm also gen z and have played ocarina

it's a solid game

[heavy zenith]

I, too enjoy pressing the delete enemy button (Ability 1)

[manic coral]

absolutely amazing for its time for sure but like

[rain osprey]

i think the only person i know older than you is done who is 45

[manic coral]

not a top even 20 game for me tbh

[raven brook]

i love ocarina of time

great game

[rain osprey]

you don't count

[young socket]

i thought done was 22?! you know cuz done22???

[raven brook]

ive been playing majoras recently

[vivid cloud]

I'm still playing it😂

[raven brook]

majoras has such a unique vibe i can def see why its alot of ppls favorite zelda

[wanton pendant]

YOU!

The best Zelda game is Wind Waker by the way.

[raven brook]

it feels alot more macabre compared to all the others

i mean it did inspire fear and hunger 2 termina

to some extent

given

yk.

[rain osprey]

i think the first zelda game i played was twilight princess

[vivid cloud]

Aw, no.
I dislike you kinds of people.

[wanton pendant]

Oh really, the game with Termina in the name was inspired by Majora's Mask? I'd never guess.

[manic coral]

my favorite "old" game is solidly morrowind and i don't think much will change that

[rain osprey]

i never got very far but it was certainly an experience

[wanton pendant]

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN!?

[manic coral]

magic crafting my beloved

[vivid cloud]

The people who glaze the games with Toon Link in them.

[raven brook]

the first game i ever played was a snes game

the first i actually remember anyways

👵

[wanton pendant]

BECAUSE THEY'RE GREAT!

[manic coral]

i love making a spell that inflicts 1 point of levatation on an enemy for 300 seconds to instantly incapcitate them

[raven brook]

wind waker is a good game i should finish it sometime

[vivid cloud]

My first game was Mario Kart: Double Dash, I think.

[raven brook]

i never got past the 2nd dungeon mainly due to my pc epxloding

[vivid cloud]

Mhm.
What's the FIRST game you played?

[manic coral]

because 1 point of elvatation amkes you levitate at like

10% base movement speed

[raven brook]

i had phantom hourglass on my ds

it was, alright i guess

the touch screen controls were something

never played spirit tracks

[manic coral]

and you cnat chosoe to jsut not leivtate

[rain osprey]

fossil fighters is the only correct choice

[raven brook]

both of them seem to be like, fine?

not bad games but not great iether

good msuci tho

[wanton pendant]

So the thing is is that I've played games for so long I can't remember.
One of my earliest memories is Majora's Mask and I wasn't even the one playing it I don't think.

[raven brook]

wind waker i think is the really great one out of the toon link trilogy

i hope they bring back the sailing mechanic one day

as a certified ocean nerd i am partial to it

[vivid cloud]

And you were calling me old.
At least my first game wasn't on a NINTENDO 64, which by the way MILLENIALS grew up playing.

[wanton pendant]

THE GAMECUBE WAS ALREADY OUT BY THE TIME I WAS BORN!

[vivid cloud]

Same here.

You're still older than me.

[west plume]

we're gonna be talking about... YHARIM!!

we're gonna be talking about... THE ARCHMAGE!!!

[light linden]

I think that was gen z

[vivid cloud]

If you saw Nintendo 64 gameplay before you played your first game, you are an unc.

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-draerim-calamity-calamity-mod-hop-on-gif-14507370317284012742

[wanton pendant]

Peak.

I mean.

YOU'RE OLD!

[bright phoenix]

I really enjoy how Calamitas's mentor was basically her opposite

[light linden]

since millennials ended in 1995

[vivid cloud]

I thought Gen Z was like late 90s to late 2000s.

[raven brook]

I like Calamitas and Xeroc

And also Signus and Agnus Immolatus

i also like Storm Weaver

[light linden]

and the nintendo 64 came out in 96

[raven brook]

Those are characters i like

[bright phoenix]

her, a young firebrand with very little control of magic, wielding the brimstone flames, and her mentor an old wise wizard of ice magic

[vivid cloud]

YOU'RE old.
You gotta be at least 19.

[bright phoenix]

Angus Immolatus is very cool

[raven brook]

I don't like slime god

that's the character i don't like

[wanton pendant]

I'm not 19...

[west plume]

his name is gloobus glorbus

i decided it just now

[raven brook]

see that already makes him better

good job lore devs

[west plume]

her name pre-ascension is also gloobo porpose

[vivid cloud]

Oh, sorry. You must be older than that.
I thought people in your category liked seeming younger than they are.

[bright phoenix]

Have you heard of psykomatic's theme they made for Agnus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUeT4AT3QOM

[raven brook]

wait wtf we got a fanmade agnus theme

[bright phoenix]

AND ITS FIRE

[wanton pendant]

CATEGORY!?

[raven brook]

I've always thought of minos's theme as agnus's theme in my head but that's just because agnus is incredibly minos coded

[bright phoenix]

same guy who did the Xeroc theme, currently being used for Fovos/ML in Vanilla Calamity Mod Music

[raven brook]

as in minos ultrakill

[west plume]

i dont like this because they use the tale of a cruel world motif and it makes literally no sense

[bright phoenix]

You're in luck because Agnus's fan theme is done by someone who does a ton of ultrakill music

[vivid cloud]

Genus, species, phylum.
Usually I go off the Cambrian Explosion.

[bright phoenix]

fair enough

song is fire tho

[wanton pendant]

CAMBRIAN!?

[vivid cloud]

Jokes aside.
@wanton pendant, you're 18, and that's as low as I'm going.

[wanton pendant]

...I'm not.

[vivid cloud]

Oh, so you ARE older.
Should've said so.

[raven brook]

chuddychudchuddening is like 42 or something

old man grandpa

[wanton pendant]

Shut.

[raven brook]

haha

[vivid cloud]

😂

[bright phoenix]

Im sorry you DO type like a facebook dad LMAOOO

[vivid cloud]

You're not in high school, are you?

[raven brook]

man. agnus is so cool. i wish sacrifice was real

[wanton pendant]

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN!?

[wanton pendant]

WHICH ONE WAS HIGH SCHOOL!?

[vivid cloud]

See, he types maturely.

[wanton pendant]

Have I got the religion for you.

[bright phoenix]

LMAO

[vivid cloud]

The one in the Dark Ages. Sorry I didn't clarify.

[bright phoenix]

can we get some baby bottle emojis in chat

[raven brook]

xeroc is so cool

i wish the sun was real no i dont

i hate the sun

[wanton pendant]

SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING AMERICAN TERMINOLOGY!?

[raven brook]

hey whats your ugys favorite calamity character

[bright phoenix]

the calamity

[raven brook]

do you guys like calamitas and xeroc and agnus and signus and storm weaver

[bright phoenix]

the super

[raven brook]

like me

[vivid cloud]

Right.
Uhhh....
Did you go to the school from age 14 to age 18?

[bright phoenix]

super calamities

[wanton pendant]

Yes, and for longer than that range.

[vivid cloud]

AHA!!

Longer?

[bright phoenix]

also yeah those guys are pretty cool

[vivid cloud]

So you ARE past 18.

@wanton pendant, come on.
You can't be younger than 18; you gave that part away.
You basically said that you WENT to a school that exceeds the age maximum of 18.

[raven brook]

storm weaver my blorbo

people sleep on him. which ok

there isnt that much stuff on him ingame right now

but people r still sleeping on him ...

[eager bluff]

i cant tell if you're ragebaiting or actually cant read

[vivid cloud]

Thus, by logical deduction, you must be older than 18.

[wanton pendant]

Yes, and graduated years ago.

[raven brook]

there is a connection between weaver and devourer that everyone basically completely dismissed

[bright phoenix]

I was actually just looking into new Weaver Lore

[raven brook]

for like

a really long while

[vivid cloud]

You graduated?

[raven brook]

until i brought it up here most people werent even aware of it

[sinful adder]

What the hell is happening here

[wanton pendant]

Obviously.

[raven brook]

signus is my favorite potential man

[vivid cloud]

You really are older than me💔

[bright phoenix]

Draedon seems to claim that Weaver is a different species and possibly older than Devourer but iirc Weaver was of the same species that can metabolize and absorb the power of whatever it eats

[raven brook]

ingame he's literally a soggy turd

with one of the wrost boss fights in the game

[wanton pendant]

Shut, you're at least 30.

[bright phoenix]

But I think Draedon just doesn't fully understand the nature of the Devourer's species?

[wanton pendant]

DoG can't do that.

[vivid cloud]

What do you mean?

[raven brook]

i have no idea what you guys are doing but its probably best to stop now

since its basically just you two going on a bakc and forth that nobody else is on

[bright phoenix]

Oh its been changed?

[wanton pendant]

Years ago.

[bright phoenix]

Im an unc

[raven brook]

But he potential to be one of the coolest mfers in the entire story by virtue of how he's basically the polar opposite of devourer

[vivid cloud]

It's pretty funny, I'd say.

[raven brook]

Devourer is a bum that is extremely arrogant and hypes himself up as the coolest guy ever only to turn out to be extremely pathethic the moment the rare 1% of people stronger than him show up

[bright phoenix]

Really? I know in New Lore, Storm Weaver is no longer very close with Devourer, but how so?

[eager bluff]

"longer than that range" does not mean in any specific direction it just means the timespan of going to school extends past at least one of the limits

[raven brook]

I was talking about signus

[bright phoenix]

Ohhh

[raven brook]

Weaver still has a connection with the devourer though

Arguably out of the 3 former sentinels he has the closest

[vivid cloud]

But I asked if he WENT.
Not if he goes to it.

Meaning he graduated.

[raven brook]

Weaver's whisper seems to show that

for SOME reason

[bright phoenix]

I am curious about the new bonds between the Devourer and the sentinels in new lore, because its very different from old lore

[raven brook]

Devourer hates weaver

[bright phoenix]

YEAH

[wanton pendant]

They don't have bonds.

[raven brook]

Devourer, the character known to be extremely full of himself, arrogant, and would never admit being scared of something

Is openly incredibly anxious towards weaver's existence

which like ???

Now

[bright phoenix]

Well... not bonds per say, but their relationship or deals

[raven brook]

Draedon makes it clear they're not the same

[bright phoenix]

Lke how did they come to work for the devourer

esp signus

[raven brook]

But he dosen't say they can't be related

[vivid cloud]

I originally thought they were like his emissaries, but clearly not😂

[raven brook]

They don't anymore

[bright phoenix]

huh

[eager bluff]

they used to be

[raven brook]

Them being devourer's sentinels is old lore

[bright phoenix]

oh

[raven brook]

They're all their own independent characters

and the only connection they all have at large is

[vivid cloud]

Oh.

[raven brook]

being related to the distortion

[wanton pendant]

Signus: No relation.
Ceaseless Void: Pretended to make.
Storm Weaver: Scared.

[raven brook]

rather than being cardboard cutouts that only exist to hype up another character basically

they'll be fleshed out more

Well except ceaseless cuz

[leaden bridge]

im still sad weaver son was dropped

[raven brook]

thats not even a living being

thats a door

[leaden bridge]

it was the 1 thing dog had that was compelling

[vivid cloud]

That's weird.
I still don't know why we gotta fight them before the Devourer (technically no, but anyway).

[raven brook]

We do because the mod is old

[bright phoenix]

right, my personal theory is that they still do share similar traits between their species and DoG is afraid of something growing greater than him

[raven brook]

and that part of it hasn't been updated

[vivid cloud]

Booo.
I don't like that.

[bright phoenix]

Interesting, got it

[leaden bridge]

this is yet another case of lore channel question where theres no real in universe answer so u gotta say the real life one

doylist and watsonian was it

[raven brook]

You don't like that the mod is old?

[leaden bridge]

i dont remember which was which right now

[bright phoenix]

Goodbye Weaver son, but I also think it adds a lot of depth to DOG to highlight his insecurities in form of Storm Weaver

[raven brook]

There aren't any set in stone plans atm but it seems likely that the trio will be spread out in progression rather than all being foguth at the same point

[vivid cloud]

So the stuff about Signus being the "Envoy of the Devourer" is just unc spittle?

[raven brook]

It's literally being removed in the next update

[eager bluff]

considering that title is dead

[wanton pendant]

Removed.

[bright phoenix]

such colorful vocabulary

[raven brook]

Most likely option seems to be that

weaver remains where it is

ceaseless void gets moved earlier, probably immediately post ml

and signus gets moved to later, same tier as old duke right before devourer

[vivid cloud]

The most colorful I can be without cursing

[raven brook]

Ceaseless Void is a portal to the distortion

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