lore-discussion

[agile matrix]

same as the photon ripper

[raven brook]

90% of the weapons in this damn mod are magical in some way and im sure that by cirtue of that they use mana in some way even if its not in the traditional consume your mana to cast a spell

[agile matrix]

my problem with that is that a mage needs to actively Expend it

meanwhile millie melee just swings their sword really hard and it does that

[split mortar]

The sun is limited so yes i would expect a limit if it was not magical
So terrablade is magical
Where do the rockets come from

[raven brook]

magical properties directly infused onto the item through its materials

rather than chanelled from your own

i mean

[agile matrix]

that i can accept

[raven brook]

primordial light is magiacl

we know multiple different non mage items

[agile matrix]

its actually electrons

[raven brook]

crafted with primordial light

so

its literally just objective that several non-mage items are magical

[split mortar]

Imo in both vanilla and calamity once you get far enough 90% or more of the shit you use is very magical

[eager bluff]

rod of discord ,

[agile matrix]

idk man have you seen the sun. shits not gonna burn out for a while
rockets come from rocketland. they got portals

[agile matrix]

i can accept that an item is magical. i do not like the internal stores of mana being used for non-mage weapons

[eager bluff]

yeah as soon as you hit like early hardmode late pre hardmode its like all gotta be magical

[agile matrix]

since the whole gimmick is that mages use their internal store and focus it through cool doohickeys. if a meleeist also is using internal mana but not actually consuming it, that is #notexactlythebest

[eager bluff]

we dont know how things enchanted use mana but like

at least im pretty sure it isnt actually using your own mana for it

[agile matrix]

see if weapons hold like. internal mana stores

[eager bluff]

more grabbing ambient mana and using that to do stuff

[agile matrix]

stuff like exoblade get a bit cooler

hit the lunge, temp internal mana boost, expended in a cool slash

[eager bluff]

theres also the part where enchanted weapons are way less versatile than knowing how to just

[split mortar]

Exoblade does though
It literally has a bottomless supply of energy from exotic resonance

[eager bluff]

cast the magic

[agile matrix]

is mana electrons ?

i asked this i think last night. what is mana

[eager bluff]

its magic juice

[split mortar]

Good question

Its certainly a thing

[eager bluff]

we dont know what it actually is

[agile matrix]

awesome .

[eager bluff]

its just the magic juice

[split mortar]

Does not seem hard at all to convert mana into other things or other things into mana

[agile matrix]

suns made of it and it keeps killing stars. it is Magic Juice

[agile matrix]

your soul can be converted into mana

[zenith geode]

so its very likely not pure energy

[agile matrix]

see: Mana Polarizer

[agile matrix]

well thats not inherently true. things can be either matter or energy

[light linden]

I do wonder if that's just something the slime god can do

[split mortar]

Spectre rod implies mana can be used to make souls i think? Idk

[zenith geode]

i more mean it fucking sucks to convert between matter and energy irl and i doubt that thered be something that everything has in cal lore that changes that

and also matter is so much energy

[agile matrix]

"mana solidified" = "holy fucking shit"

how does it suck btw? i thought it just needed a lot of heat

[zenith geode]

a lot of heat

[eager bluff]

because in order to convert matter directly into energy you need to accelerate it to like almost lightspeed iirc

[zenith geode]

also that

[eager bluff]

the only way we know of to convert 100% of a given mass into energy is to use an equivalent mass of antimatter

[zenith geode]

iirc something like a banana converted into energy would level new york city or something

i just remember that its absurd

[eager bluff]

yeah

[split mortar]

iirc one kilogram worth of pure energy is like near half the fuckin tsar bomba

[zenith geode]

21.5 megatons

[split mortar]

Yeah

[zenith geode]

tsar bomba was 50 megatons so yeah pretty close

[eager bluff]

27,000 kilo bomb btw

[zenith geode]

the bomb used on nagasaki was 21 kilotons

if mana was pure energy then i dont think terraria would exist after like the third person who learned how to convert matter to mana

[split mortar]

Yeah 😭

[zenith geode]

tldr magic is magic its best to not look too deep into it

[agile matrix]

grah...

[light linden]

hmm

@cosmic zenith you have a moment for a question about Agnus?

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[light linden]

missed this message sorry

how did Agnus get his organs or whatever out to donate?

did he rip them out himself or was there a surgeon that did it?

[plucky lichen]

Hi guys

[cosmic zenith]

Probably a surgeon

I don't think ripping your organs out would leave them very functional

Even with surgery, keeping organs viable is a major challenge

[light linden]

thank

[cosmic zenith]

Np!

[pulsar ocean]

bro i thought he rawdogged that shit

like ripping pieces of himself out

like on the spot

[magic epoch]

for some reason ikinda just imagined them doing some magical shit to take the organs out of the body without causing any external harm

like

just 3d model clips into the body and out comes a lung

[cosmic zenith]

That could work

But it's definitely not punching a hole into himself

[magic epoch]

yeah that seems not very. realistic

[wanton pendant]

So not the Jojo method?

[leaden bridge]

wait why is

why is agnus donating his organs

did he grow more?

[long bloom]

he can grow infinite organs yeah

turbo healing factor

[leaden bridge]

im crying thats so sfunny

agnus when its the third guy this week that needs a heart (getting it removed is really annoyin

[long bloom]

he also feels pain like normal

he just don't care

[noble falcon]

“Hey Agnus, could you lend me a hand real quick?”
“Here we go again…”

[hoary cape]

Agnus I need a new brain

[trim edge]

painkillers would be op for him

[bleak hare]

Mana is a different type of energy. It is stated to be incredibly dense in comparison to other types of energy and it is also presumably very highly charged as to how it’s able to make matter regarding the prior mana conversation

[wanton pendant]

So what I'm saying is that Calamitas shouldn't be able to float because of this.

[bleak hare]

Wym

[wanton pendant]

She's got a lot of mana.

And if mana is dense...

[bleak hare]

She can use her internal mana to make herself float by using to manipulate her gravitational field if she’s not using the magic hoverboard thing

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but that's cheating.

[bleak hare]

Also it just makes her stronger I think like it’s just throughout her being

As is the case with everyone

Also when I say dense I mean in comparison to other types of energy

It’s still not actually that dense

[pulsar ocean]

can’t believe it’s not the jjk method

[pulsar ocean]

Why doesn’t she just jump really high with mana and js float

like dio

or like atom eve

[signal hearth]

Is that a Jojos Reference I smell???

[signal hearth]

🔥

[long scaffold]

Does Slime God have a name

or just the title

[timber glacier]

We don’t know their like real name of them but like they presumably would have one other than slime god

[long scaffold]

Time to make one up then

(Cal fan project)

Wait do we know 13 gods

oddly specific number yes but I need that many

[plucky juniper]

i mean

his artwork shows he alr has a hole in his chest

no reason to open another unless you want to scare someone shitless, and agnus doesnt want to scare people anyways

[timber glacier]

We know of tyrian, silva, ontolinlou (i don’t remember how to spell her name), god of war [Don’t know their name], god of dogma [Don’t know their name], god of slime [Don’t know their name], agnus (also ravager is kind of also like a god too), shakidou, providence and xeroc, which is a total of 10 gods

[long scaffold]

who are tyrian and shakidou?

I think ontolinlou is electricity

[timber glacier]

Tyrian is god of sea, shakidou is god of emptiness (also shakidou is they/them)

We don’t know too much about tyrian but he helped with the formation of illmeris with ontological but we know nothing about shakidou other than they’re incredibly strong

[leaden bridge]

can we address the elephant in the room that is calamity maybe perhaps having the exact same dating system we do

its fun because its technically not confirmed

[timber glacier]

We don’t know where tyrian is since we don’t know if he was there when illmeris was incinerated so he may still be alive or dead, but we do know shakidou was beaten by yharim and yharon in a fight where it was a fairly even match in terms of strength with shakidou being around as strong as yharon and yharim together

[leaden bridge]

none of draedons date break month 12 or day 31 but theres nothing saying they couldnt

its funny

[long scaffold]

"On 13/31 Yharim saw one of his soldiers swatting a bee and executed them."

Real log

[leaden bridge]

true!

[timber glacier]

31 months in a year is crazy

[long scaffold]

Calamity has 31 months and 12 days in each

13/31 is like... evil extra day

I think Aztecs actually had something like that

or one of the ancient civilizations

Them or Incas

[timber glacier]

Wait if the date in universe was… 22/22

[long scaffold]

Question: Is Signus working for Noxus in any way

or is it just DoGgo

[timber glacier]

No he seems to be his own thing signus

[light linden]

[timber glacier]

Most things from the distortion might be working for noxus in like a hive mind (not the boss the actual meaning of a hive mind) if I remember correctly including D.O.G. except Signus, whos like the calamity devil, and Storm Weaver, who seemingly escaped the hive mind (again not the boss called hive mind)

[leaden bridge]

i hope one day yharim drops a date that does because itd be funny but also it settles their system is different from ours which would make sense for obvious reason s

[timber glacier]

It’d be funny if it was like only different by like one day being moved to a differently month

[leaden bridge]

they still call july july and nobody knows why

[timber glacier]

i’d imagine like the months named after irl people would probably be differently named in universe, like instead of august its yhargust

[long scaffold]

yhargust

January, February, March, May, June, Yharly, Yhargust, September, October, November, December

[noble falcon]

Every Thursday is replaced with Yhursday
If you don’t say “it’s Yharim Yhursday” when you wake up he smites you from the aerie like Zeus hurling a thunderbolt

[wanton pendant]

There is a joke here, but I will not make it.

[long scaffold]

If you called Ares "Skeletron Prime Prime" how would Draedon react

[wanton pendant]

"Please Terrarian, I worked hard on these. It took five months alone to come up with these names. Let me have this."

[light linden]

probably sending ares on you without warning

[wanton pendant]

To be fair you can't talk to Draedon like that without having already destroyed Ares.

[timber glacier]

What if I call ares skeletron primer

[wanton pendant]

And if you do it before the fight well one you couldn't know Ares existed and two he was about to do that anyway so there.

[wanton pendant]

"Terrarian. Please killbind."

[light linden]

you act like calling ares skeletron prime prime isn't gfb material

[long scaffold]

Would he just say the AM monologue

[wanton pendant]

Damn it, of course, why didn't I think of that!

The Hunters should be called the the Twins Two and Thanatos should be The Breaker.

[light linden]

you call Ares Skeletron Prime Prime and Hekate is immediately summoned

[timber glacier]

No thanatos should be called the destroyest

[light linden]

^

[long scaffold]

Skeletron Prime Prime, the Destroyest, and the New Twins

[timber glacier]

Artemis will be called occulaser and apollo will be called pupilasma

[light linden]

I actually like the latter name

[agile matrix]

puplasma sounds like a baby plasma creaute

[long scaffold]

Artemis will be Teethy Eye of Cthulhu and Apollo will be Fiery Eye of Cthulhu

[timber glacier]

Artemis doesn’t got any teeth

[stark flame]

Is the Moon Lord invading the Terraria planet for the World Soul?

[timber glacier]

He might’ve originally come to like absorb it or the auric dragons souls but I don’t think we fully know why he originally came to terraria

[stark flame]

How long is the Devourer of Gods approximately?

[eager bluff]

phase 1 is 600 feet long
phase 2 is about 1143 feet long

unless there were segment count changes in 2.1

[stark flame]

[light linden]

just realized

were the celestial fragments meant to be pieces of the power from the "dark gods" in old lore?

[noble falcon]

They are actually cereal bits
We ruin moon lord’s balanced breakfast and he kicks our ass for it

[eager bluff]

nope in old lore that was meld

fragments just kinda didnt have any lore afaik

[plucky juniper]

fun fact: empyrean armor used to be just called the xeroc armor set

and the meld constructs were once meld bars

im gonna confess and say that i personally liked the color scheme

although god the current meld sprites are nothing short of spectacular

[robust osprey]

SLIME GOD BAR

[stark flame]

Where did the essence of the gods devoured by the Devourer of Gods eventually go? Could he have transferred it to The Distortion?

[timber glacier]

I’m pretty sure it went to the distortion yes, seemingly for Noxus to receive

[robust osprey]

it all went to me

I ate it all

yum

[timber glacier]

Are you noxus?

[robust osprey]

maybe

[feral skiff]

noxus VS xeroc war

who is winning…….

[robust osprey]

idk man I dont think the sun would lose any fight at all

[magic epoch]

isn't it just xeroc

and noxus is basically hiding

[plucky juniper]

old lore?

ig?

[magic epoch]

oh okay

[robust osprey]

no I dont think thats old lore..

[magic epoch]

i thought that like noxus would be one of the few things that actually threaten the world

[plucky juniper]

i dunno a lot of things have changed between old and new lore, but certain things still remain

[magic epoch]

and xeroc really only interferes with things that do that

[plucky juniper]

ya

[robust osprey]

yea I think he does

evil distortion being seems like a big threat

[stark flame]

I have a theory
Storm Weaver metaphorizes the power of the Devourer of Gods.
The Ceaseless Void metaphorizes the birthplace of the Devourer of Gods.
Signus metaphorizes the essence or the Hive Mind of the Devourer of Gods.

[sinful adder]

Uh

None of those things are really related

All of them come from the same pocket dimension thingy but besides that they're not related

[timber glacier]

What do you mean by metamorphises

[robust osprey]

metaphor

[timber glacier]

Like do you mean they like represent or are metaphors for or something

If so like I kinda see the idea but like those three aren’t really gonna remain a trio

[stark flame]

[agile matrix]

signus is a holdover of a sentinel. he's not really related to DoG in current lore outside of homeworld to my knowledge

storm weaver is im pretty sure (30%) DoG 1.0 in lore so

[timber glacier]

Ceaseless is also kinda just a door to dog’s home in the distortion or something but its older than him

[stark flame]

[heavy zenith]

I have a theory: there's a separate dimension called the Distortion

[timber glacier]

Too crazy I doubt it

[heavy zenith]

[timber glacier]

Clearly theres a seperate dimension called the void since thats whats ceaseless void mist lead to

[long bloom]

i don't think it's technically a dimension

it's described as a rift in spacetime

[pulsar ocean]

Themes n such

[stark flame]

How many years later do the players defeat Calamity?
Is it up to the players themselves to decide how much time has passed?

[bitter cave]

The terrarians lore is up to the player so i would assume how long it takes is also up to the player

[timber glacier]

The only canon timeframe if I remember correctly is that the time between beating yharon and when we’ll eventually beat yharim is at the latest 10 years apart but almost certainly canonically shorter

[split mortar]

Yeah its up to the player for the most part, only timer we got is that yharim will die in under a decade but this is said after yharon so technically the 9.9 year timer only starts after yharon is defeated

[bitter cave]

Actually how do years work on terraria if the sun orbits the planet

[west plume]

it does not

[bitter cave]

Ah

Idk where i heard that

[west plume]

fairly recent decision

[split mortar]

That got deconfirmed like a week ago
Dev statement hell moment
The lore doc is under some renovations iirc so it might not be highest priority to keep statements like that fully up to date idk

[stark flame]

How many days are there in a year in Terraria?

[split mortar]

No reason to assume a different amount to irl unless proven otherwise

[bitter cave]

Fair enough

[heavy zenith]

The skybox literally proves the geocentric model

[timber glacier]

What

Calamity has a heliocentric world model calamity devs have confirmed that

[heavy zenith]

Just realized, we're both wrong lol

Idc bout dev confirmations

[icy veldt]

Skeletron Secundus

[split mortar]

How? It literally just has the sun go across the sky how does that prove geocentric

[heavy zenith]

How do you have moon phases with tidally locked sun and moon

Also I realized that it proved neither

Its just a 'whateverthefuckcentric'

[pulsar ocean]

if the planet orbits the sun is it just

a whole lot closer

if the sun isnt as hot

[latent bolt]

what impact do the three effigies have on lore

[split mortar]

What about eclipses how do they happen if its tidally locked
-# i would just chalk it up to game mechanics

[gilded bay]

yharim just decides it happens

[pulsar ocean]

eclipses happen when i want them to

[latent bolt]

other celestial objects could be interesting to point to

[west plume]

wut

[west plume]

can u explain this one

[heavy zenith]

.

[west plume]

how r u both wrong

[heavy zenith]

U cant have a tidally locked sun and moon AND moon phases, thats not how it works with either models, the moon and sun are never in the sky at the same time in-game. Also the day would technically be split even, as opposed to the 15min day/9min night cycle

You have to find a way to explain the phases in a way that makes magic the source, not science and orbital mechanics same with blood moons since the moon would technically always be a new moon.

[west plume]

the moon and sun are never in the sky at the same time in-game
well, ignoring that this is a gameplay mechanic, would it fix it to make the moon appear earlier behind the atmosphere as the sun is rising and setting?

i don't think the moon doing things at specific times is really 'canon'

it's kinda just all gameplay except for the fact that it does those things

i am unsure how to change this without changing terraria on a base level

[heavy zenith]

True, Re-Logic kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one, and your foot too lol

[west plume]

my desire at least isn't to modify terraria in such a way to fit our lore when there's no material benefit; it would be less fun for players to get less moon events and follow a compressed season format like don't starve/rimworld

[heavy zenith]

I can definitely see that

At least, what I think would fix the entire topic is to just give the Moon its own track not locked with Sun, if its possible (it even already traverses the skybox faster). Even in real life, the Moon appears during the day. Just thinking out loud here. Then of course you'd have to make seasons but even I would consider any lore person too nitpicky for judging you guys not making seasons.

[west plume]

think would fix the entire topic is to just give the Moon its own track not locked with Sun, if its possible
it is possible, but we lose the visual indicator for moon events which is an accessibility issue. the moon has to slow down to normal and skip forward in it's orbit in order to make timed events like a blood moon be visually coherent without audio to tell you when it is over, when it ends at precisely 4:30am without a clock

here is the normal blood moon. you might say that you can tell when it is over without the moon due to the red tint, but

here is how it looks with protanopia and deuteranopia

this becomes even more difficult without the moon to help you tell. this applies for every other event without an explicit progress bar

if we desync the moon it becomes a major accessibility issue and we'd have to circumvent it to compensate for all event moons

[heavy zenith]

Wow, I can see how it'd be much easier to change the lore than the mechanics of the base game😅

Didn't even think of the accessibility stuff, thats why you're the dev lol

[west plume]

this isn't to say ur idea is bad tho

i implemented moon desync in a different game for a different purpose

[heavy zenith]

Cost/benefit🤷‍♂️

[west plume]

i think that it would be an easy way to represent the absence of tidal locking if it wouldn't cause many issues that would cause many players to have a more difficult time playing terraria

[heavy zenith]

Definitely, you just have the (much) bigger picture in mind

[signal hearth]

Hi Syrup

Howya

[scenic kraken]

Sighhhh

This how we YES WE be moving

[wanton pendant]

Do not pet the slavery fish.

[scenic kraken]

I'mma eat the slavery fish.

[scenic kraken]

DISCLAIMER, THIS IS NOT MY ART BTW

[wanton pendant]

Do not eat the slavery fish.

You will get new and innovative forms of cancer.

[scenic kraken]

i will eat the slavery fish with radiation pills.

[magic epoch]

What does this mean

[wanton pendant]

They want to pet the slavery fish.

[pulsar ocean]

The guy is sukuna jjk about to aura farm on old duke

[scenic kraken]

we ragebaiting the slavery fish from san diago

[wanton pendant]

I thought he was Finnish.

[scenic kraken]

finnish?

[magic epoch]

finnish

[scenic kraken]

Ah

f i s h

Also one more point to TAoE btw

He yanked Old Duke

he ate the slavery fish

[stark flame]

How old was Zeratros before he died?

[split mortar]

We dunno how long the auric dragons reigned so we dunno

We do know its longer then azafure had existed so like minimum a millenia ig

[wanton pendant]

In that particular lifetime or however long he had existed, in either case we don't know.
Hell, we don't even know how often dragons dying before hand even occured.

[stark flame]

How old was Xeroc before he ascended to godhood?

[wanton pendant]

We don't know.

Probably an adult.

Within a timespan that is reasonable to still be alive.

[pulsar ocean]

like

maybe around from

6

to 7

[raven brook]

sith sethen

[wanton pendant]

Somewhere between like, 20 to 1000, take it or leave it.

[zenith geode]

he was at least 3 old

[agile matrix]

not true he coulda been 1 old

[plucky juniper]

the image of zeratros choosing a literal toddler as his guardian, only for said toddler to somehow create the terminus and absorb the super sun dragon's power for himself is so hilarious man

[agile matrix]

yharim: "...he declared himself Xeroc, the First God."
what actually happened: "aggaga googoo gahhhh. AAAAAAAAA" explosion sfx

[sacred pilot]

"googoo gaga"

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-broly-broly-super-saiyan-broly-legendary-super-saiyan-power-up-gif-25779826

Fuck I don't have gif perms.

[agile matrix]

honestly if he WAS 1 old and he ascended to gain like

100s of years of knowledge

so he locked in while still being a diaper wearing baby would be quite funny

[hoary cape]

L user for not having gif perms

[pulsar ocean]

couldve been 67

[wanton pendant]

Are babies sapient enough to ascend also mods can we kill Kozz please?

[hoary cape]

No

Kozz has the 67 blessing

[noble falcon]

Dragon of brainrot

[wheat walrus]

p

[heavy sail]

am i allowed to talk about something silly for a sec? since crossovers aren't canon in calamity, i like to think that the calamity characters are like. unable to see the non-canon stuff. like when you're doing the boss rush and deerclops shows up, xeroc cannot see her and just sees you frantically swinging at nothing

[wanton pendant]

Real.

[heavy sail]

(very unserious, just a silly headcanon i have)

[plucky juniper]

deerclops has no lore in calamity because he doesnt come from calamity

he just showed up one day

hell, a lot of terrarian crossovers come in the form of interdimensional travel, which is a rather common way to explain crossovers

[heavy sail]

imagine there's a blizzard in the tundra village and permafrost is out enjoying it and the tax collector is yelling at him to please acknowledge the giant deer thing and he simply cannot see her. like the narrator and the mirror in slay the princess, if you're familiar
and then the mechanic is like "oh, i think i can see what's going on here! i pulled up lore document for the mod our archmage friend is from and it says crossovers aren't canon in it. that's deerclops, she's from something called Don't Starve... maybe she got here through a portal like the one paddy came in through? in any case, chester, permafrost isn't messing with you- because she's from another world, i don't think he or anyone from this "calamity" mod can see her."

the tracker, who is also there because why not: "i mean, i'm from a mod too, but i can see her. i think."

[wanton pendant]

Then Calamitas walks in and says "Yo, guys, I found this thing called a 'Joja Cola'."
Then the world ends.

[heavy sail]

absolute cinema

[magic epoch]

The Demolitionist attempts to introduce his best friend, The Tavernkeep, to Calamitas—perhaps she could use something to clear her mind?—but she simply stands there with a puzzled expression. Where, and who, is this "Tavernkeep" person?

[soft flame]

not to mention that the player can also be using the murasama
truly

[wanton pendant]

Demolitionist is a jerk for trying to get someone who is severely traumatized and probably super depressed to drink.

[magic epoch]

drink away your problems

[gusty robin]

Probably that many years old

[heavy zenith]

5 bucks

[golden root]

I’d like to imagine that when xeroc is added, all crossover weapons do 0 damage to him

[raven brook]

I've mentioned before something like this

if you use solar eruption or daybreak on xeroc, since theyre literally made of primordial light

thy just deal 0 damage and he goes

"Dude, really? You know that's my thing, right?"

[golden root]

I may steal that

[warm gull]

I mean if he's sparring with you I feel like its common courtesy to lower your health bar when your opponent hits you

just my two cents

[long bloom]

napstablook undertale

[warm gull]

yes that was the reference

correctamundo

[long bloom]

hooray

[timber glacier]

Wait will he just disable rod and roh since they use primordial light

[bleak hare]

Wait Quinn do they

[timber glacier]

I’m pretty sure thats how they work canonically

[sinful adder]

I think we should make crossovers and references canon by replacing their origin stories

[eager bluff]

thats just unreferencing the reference

[timber glacier]

Just make them canon but they got here by like timeline shenanigans and characters have no fucking clue what they are

[bleak hare]

Deerclops lore doesn’t change in calamity right

I mean he has no lore item

He’s just from the constant

[timber glacier]

Shes noncanon

[eager bluff]

the issue with slapping timeline shenanigans on calamity is that calamity was not built with timeline shenanigans in place

[raven brook]

Crossover content will still be crossover content no matter how much you change its origin

you can say whtaever you want about deerclops

i will still look at it and go that's deerclops from dont starve

their presence in calamity's narrative is jarring no matter how you justify it

[eager bluff]

you cannot just add timeline bullshittery to something without a whole hell of a lot of due diligence

[timber glacier]

Fair it would cause a lot of issues I guess

[timber glacier]

I do hope with like the eventual lore items being turned into a stone phone thing that maybe deerclops and betsy could get lore entries but its just yharim going I have no clue what this is actually and trying to act like they have some deep symbolism in them or something

[bronze lynx]

is the rock from boss rush any different from just any other stone removing the fact that xeroc decides to give it to you

[timber glacier]

Its from the dragon aerie where the dragons lived and yharim is right now

[bronze lynx]

yeah but since we don't know anything about the aerie (and since it's mentioned to just be some kind of ancient stone) how on earth does the player even differentiate it from other regular stone blocks

[timber glacier]

Well its not like the stone block item its a small rock that can be placed and is also quite more black than normal stone

[errant plume]

vibes and aura

[agile matrix]

aerierock cannot be mined by normal means

[bronze lynx]

thinking about it the terminus does have a similar hue to the rock in the sprite so

[agile matrix]

the only rock we have from it is from First God, Xeroc

[bronze lynx]

that just might be because nobody really knows how to get there (aside from a select few)

[bronze lynx]

oh fr?

[agile matrix]

im not even sure the dragons could get one up

[agile matrix]

they are immune to weathering and wear

so no erosion, no breaking, no gravity and inertia since thats technically weathering but thats my headcanon

[bronze lynx]

wait since when? where was it stated?

im just curious cuz i haven't touched the lore in a while ever since

[agile matrix]

its prob devspeak but i think its mentioned in teh document

[long bloom]

according to devs, aerie rock is indestructible

all other info is just assumptions

[timber glacier]

Aerie rock armour when as a post game armour set with exclusively just high defence

[bronze lynx]

damn can't wait for the exclusive hardcore weapon you get by doing the boss rush 10 times which is just the rock but you get to bash it in the skulls of any living/dead/hostile creature

[craggy sparrow]

what are you even saying

[timber glacier]

I was making a joke that they should add an armour set made of aerie rock

[craggy sparrow]

how does that even make sense

[timber glacier]

Make it only have very high defense values

[timber glacier]

Cos its indestructible and I thought making an armour of it would be funny

[craggy sparrow]

you cant forge rocks

[timber glacier]

Neither can you forget spider fangs making armour in terraria often doesn’t make sense

[raven brook]

dev statement hell

[raven brook]

looks at armor made of cactus and pumpkins and

fuckin. brain matter

[timber glacier]

Also hellstone is also rock

[raven brook]

There are no special properties to the rock xeroc gives you as far as we can tell

it is literally just A Rock

the point of the item is in large part the fact it dosen't really have anything special about it

[timber glacier]

Well it is from the aerie though isn’t it

[raven brook]

yeah but that dosen't necessarily mean theres anything special about it

[bronze lynx]

THANK YOU

[raven brook]

a rock from hawaii is still just, a rock

[agile matrix]

no its a hawaiian rock

[timber glacier]

Also isn’t it also an avalon reference

[agile matrix]

and it costs 30 bucks an hour to hold for good chakras

[raven brook]

dude 80% of the things in this mod are a valon refernce do you KNOW what its history is

[timber glacier]

Yeah fair

[bronze lynx]

what is this a jojo part 9 story arc

[craggy sparrow]

those can be molded and formed

were talking about unbreakable rocks

[raven brook]

you're thinking too hard about it

[craggy sparrow]

that are just rocks

[raven brook]

these are materials in a funny sandbox rpg videogame

[timber glacier]

Too hard… like the rocks

[craggy sparrow]

I mean we COULD stick them together if we find pebbles

and make a really good chainmail armor

[timber glacier]

Rocks + gel for glue

[craggy sparrow]

slime god gel

[bronze lynx]

i was just curious as to how on earth the terrarian just differentiates the rock from every other stone

[timber glacier]

Its seemingly a different kind of rock

[craggy sparrow]

One can be broken with one swing

[raven brook]

obviously there wouldnt be an armorset made of the Boss Rush Rock because it'd be really stupid but not because of the logistics of how you can forge stones but because making an armorset of an item you get as a reward for beating a postgame challenge which is basically meant to act as just a source of lore and a trophy is a horrible game design decision

[timber glacier]

Its visibly darker than stone blocks

[craggy sparrow]

and the other is Minecraft bedrcok

[cloud ibex]

By Xeroc telling us it’s different probably

[timber glacier]

It would be dumb for a rock armour its bad game design

[raven brook]

the aerie rock being indestructible is also just a dev statement by the way os i wouldnt act as if it was confirmed true real canon

[agile matrix]

i made this mention a bit back

[raven brook]

you guys need to stop doing that

[craggy sparrow]

no

[agile matrix]

its unaffected by outside forces which gravity and drag so Therefore indestructable car and sword against normal tree

[raven brook]

we already saw plentyo f dev statements being shot and killed in a back alley in this chat multiple times because until something's not ingame it's subject to cahnge and going through the iteration proccess

[craggy sparrow]

yall don't know how dangerous shrapnel from fired projectiles can be

thats like most of the damage

this is ass

[timber glacier]

Imagine if the rock could be used in recipes that need “any stone block” because funny (||bad game design this is a joke||)

[agile matrix]

pull a WotG and make the endgame drop craft into iron bars

[craggy sparrow]

post game calamity is the terrarian being a homeless tweaker found in the other continents kingdoms

[raven brook]

until the aerie is ingame or somehow the aerie having indestructible rocks is mentioned ingame i will not treat the aerie having indestructible rocks/terrain as a real canonical thing that happens as much as it's a possible explanation that may or may not become real

[bronze lynx]

bold of you to assume the terrarian isn't a homeless tweaker in any other point in time

[craggy sparrow]

Potions for days

[raven brook]

hey hey hey. ill let you know my terrarian is NOT homless. they have a home. that they built with their own blood sweat and tears

landlord would be more appropriate

[agile matrix]

you sound quite evil. i interpret all dev statements as until

[raven brook]

do not

[craggy sparrow]

they test bugs

[agile matrix]

its a great way of living life

[craggy sparrow]

they're evil

[raven brook]

devs have literally asked people to Not do this and are literally actively trying to be more secretive to avoid people taking dev statements too seriously

[bronze lynx]

that's your terrarian, not mine. my terrarian is a homeless machine that turns bait into shrimp

[raven brook]

how will this affect the trout population

[agile matrix]

in my world theres like six more cakes. sure the cakes do Not look good and they're quickly tossed but they're still six more cakes in an sadly emptiness of cake

[raven brook]

i dont understand what these words mena

[cloud ibex]

Incomprehensible. Have an evening never intended for mortal minds to behold

[agile matrix]

me get more stuff even if stuff is not real stuff and is actually Bad.

until i get more Actual Good Stuff i use this alternative to go Wow!

[bronze lynx]

my brain cannot comprehend this and i study engineering

[raven brook]

don't worry they're like this most of the time

[pulsar ocean]

if only this place had an admin

[agile matrix]

good i study english and have a passing interest in psychology

[raven brook]

Bug Tester

[craggy sparrow]

I think aerie rocks if indestructible can be used for construction purposes

[agile matrix]

StickerBored

[cloud ibex]

Greasy Pete

[craggy sparrow]

imagine having a drill or a hammer that never breaks

[cloud ibex]

I think hamburgers and cheeseburgers work well with fries

[pulsar ocean]

Play terraria

[agile matrix]

imagine launching it through an accelerator

[craggy sparrow]

silly kozz, your terrarian replaces and maintains their tools after you log off

[agile matrix]

"wow cool final boss. go my rock" and it shreds Noxus

[craggy sparrow]

with pickles

or no pickles

[craggy sparrow]

I think foundations like pillars can be really used too

if we can somehow sand and cut them down

and after a building is demolished it can be re used for another building

[scenic kraken]

Unrelated I thought your name was Hakari

And I almost said you hit the Jackpot

[long bloom]

95 new messages

[scenic kraken]

With 96 soon to follow

[split mortar]

According to dev statements the aerie is borderline invincible to the point not even moonlord damaged a single blade if grass iirc
Granted that is a old dev statement so its dubious at best but still

[wheat walrus]

ARGAGAHEVWGVEBSBD

[pulsar ocean]

what’s 95-28

[wheat walrus]

67!!

[raven brook]

omni will post literally anything in lore chat but lore

[split mortar]

Wut

[wheat walrus]

True

[wheat walrus]

Devvvv

Statements

Of doom and despair

iirc the reason the aerie was indestructible by dev statements was bc of time not moving in there

[split mortar]

Yeah that was heavily implied just not outright stated

[wheat walrus]

whuh

i swear i remember it being talked about

im finding a whole bunch of aerie frozen in time but nothing that is a dev statement what the helly

either way

[split mortar]

Cei did everything but outright say it was frozen in time iirc

[wheat walrus]

Sonion rings 😭😭😭

[pulsar ocean]

if it was frozen in time then xeroc wouldnt be able to get his rocks

theory debunked

[timber glacier]

If it was frozen in time how did anything move there

[wheat walrus]

Yea

Chat is this an upscale actually

Vsbattleswikiversal 67D calamity mod

[pulsar ocean]

does this imply xeroc can beat dio

[wheat walrus]

Idt the character whose ult is a fuckass roadroller is beating much in calamity mod 😭

[pulsar ocean]

ur tripping dog

[timber glacier]

Dog? Like the boss

[agile matrix]

dragonfolly when it gets hit or drops below 60%

[magic epoch]

personal space??

[wheat walrus]

multiplayer space!!

[stark flame]

Is the Aerie really frozen in time?

[raven brook]

Perhaps. It seems like a mostly agreed on idea but shits not ingame so it's still not fully confirmed

Subject to change yada yada

[stark flame]

[raven brook]

It would make alot of thematic sense if it was

[wheat walrus]

e

[raven brook]

Given calamity's themes about being stuck in the past and refusing to accept change and such

[wheat walrus]

i mean in that sense yea

though i think it'd make more sense if it was less

frozen time outright

and moreso, slowed time

one of yharim's key thematics is being stuck in the past, yea

but the world's key thematic is that nothing lasts forever

the idea that time is frozen in this place is interesting, because it reflects yharim's beliefs (and the aerie is the place yharim currently resides in)

but the idea that it's not actually frozen is, imo, more interesting, as it stands against yharim

[raven brook]

That could be cool yeah

[cloud ibex]

I see the vision

[raven brook]

Slowed down to almost s halt

But not quite

[wheat walrus]

yea

[raven brook]

Desperately clinging to the past but unable to truly return to it yada yada

[wheat walrus]

yuhh

[magic epoch]

I think time being frozen also somewhat works in that

Since it's still not going back, it's not progressing sure, but it's not going back

[split mortar]

Yeah but no matter how much yharim wants the past
Time will continue forwards no matter what

[timber glacier]

Why doesn’t he just freeze time with the cosmolight is he stupid smh

[split mortar]

Clearly because xeroc is called traitor almighty he is boundless

[stark flame]

[pulsar ocean]

whoever made the aerie must have stands of the same type

[cloud ibex]

You know Yharim calling Xeroc “The Traitor Almighty” has a similar energy to china making posters that depict the US as a supervillain in an effort to make them look bad but inadvertently end up making the US look fucking awesome

[timber glacier]

Yharim really chose one of the coolest names to refer to xeroc as

Traitor almighty goes really hard

[stark flame]

How does Yharim give the lore items to the player?

[split mortar]

Wai huh

[pulsar ocean]

he doesn’t
it’s a representation of him speaking into ur head

[split mortar]

Its just him psychically talking in your ear, the items are just a gameplay mechanic so the player can choose to listen or not iirc

[timber glacier]

They’re planned to be replaced with like a stone phone thing

[pulsar ocean]

I’ve always considered them a waste of inventory space I could need for something important

[timber glacier]

I always considered them free trophies when I shimmer them

Also you could just trash em if they clog up your inventory

[cloud ibex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/z58qqw/chinese_propaganda_artist_depicts_us_navy_as_the/

[stark flame]

How many differently numbered machines does Draedon have?

[scenic kraken]

I'mma ask Yharim to play some clash royale then, the fucking prick

[raven brook]

Wdym by differently numbered

He probably gives numbers to all of them as part of their official designations so you'd just be asking how many mschines he has

[bleak hare]

Like mainly the mechs or exo mechs I assume

Which would be just the 8 I think

10 if u include wotg and Hypnos

Ik they aren’t canon

Hypnos is dogshit as well

[stoic gulch]

if aureus was a spider would the spider net look like a star belt or would they be like a tarantula (aka no web)

[bleak hare]

Sbit I forgot aures

9

[raven brook]

Pbg

[bleak hare]

10

[raven brook]

Every burrower unit ever

[mighty zenith]

also the implied smaller aureus units

[raven brook]

Again. Youre just asking how many machines he has made

[stoic gulch]

does the arsenal shrimp count

[bleak hare]

Since when we’re there smaller aureuses

[raven brook]

The answer is

Too many

😭

[mighty zenith]

they're mentioned briefly in draetalk

[bleak hare]

They should make the smaller aureuses mini bosses

[heavy sail]

whispers in your ear like a creep

[mighty zenith]

the one we fight is a more armored one so it could be better protected from the astral

which uh

[bleak hare]

What the shit is draetalk

[mighty zenith]

didnt work!

[stoic gulch]

not really

[mighty zenith]

draedon codebreaker dialogue

[bleak hare]

Yes

[raven brook]

You can talk to draedon in the codebrraker after beating the exo mecha

[bleak hare]

Oh ok

Ye I’m

I’m

Ik

Holy shit remove autocorrect

[mighty zenith]

disable it

🐟

[bleak hare]

I didn’t know you could do that

[magic epoch]

Idk if this is relevant but the numbers at the end of his mech names are indicative of how many revisions the design has gone through

[bleak hare]

Oh damn

So in his mind there are like dozens

Hundreds even

[magic epoch]

Ares is XF-09 because Exo Fright 9th Revision

[bleak hare]

That means that he got Hypnos down first try

[magic epoch]

ares specifically is so high because draedon had tested many weapons to see how well they worked with the rest of the exo mechs

[bleak hare]

Xp-00 Hypnos

[errant plume]

oh my fucking god bruh
how did it never cross my mind that the x stood for exo

[bleak hare]

Sonion ring🥀

[bleak hare]

That also makes Hypnos the first exo mech since he was made before the others

But again he ain’t cannon

[timber glacier]

So he wasn’t made first what

[bleak hare]

Wym

It’s said in the add ons lore

Yes he was

[west plume]

windows 0 was actually the first version of windows released

[bleak hare]

Or was an earlier model or sum shit idk

Huh

What does that mean

I mean he was the first exo mech in comparison to the others because is is designated as such

[timber glacier]

Also artemis being the first revision is funny cos it means that draedon things that their design was already perfect is funny to me

[magic epoch]

Xbox 360 was not the 360th edition of the Xbox console series

[bleak hare]

😂😂😂

[magic epoch]

I am very funny.

[bleak hare]

Also who was the earth elemental made by

[magic epoch]

Asafure

Iirc

[bleak hare]

Also can they rename it

[magic epoch]

Azafure

[bleak hare]

It isn’t by definition an elemental

It’s a machine

[timber glacier]

It was made to be a replica elemental if i rember his lore

[bleak hare]

Yh I think so still it’s like comparing golem to a god

[timber glacier]

Technically wasn’t he also meant to replace the brimstone elemental since she eeping so he really should be called fire elemental technically

[timber glacier]

Elementals aren’t gods (outside of silva)

[split mortar]

Golem is made to fill the spot the god that left the ligzahrds filled

[bleak hare]

Yh ik golem is a mechanical gos recreation is my point

[timber glacier]

Oh I’m dumb I misunderstood what you meant

I thought you were refering to the earth elemental as a golem

[bleak hare]

Are elementals immortal as well because yharim says that Silva is unable to die because of her being such I think idk

[west plume]

im p sure the only reason earth elemental is even still around so it can be reworked in crags update

tempted to say it can be safely disregarded from canon

[split mortar]

Yeah elementals cannot die until their element is gone from the planet fully

[bleak hare]

What the fuck is a crags update

[magic epoch]

They're not actually immortal it's just that they're functionally immortal

[split mortar]

The brimstone crags update?

[timber glacier]

Which kinda means no-one can ever kill silva unless they also kill themselves

[magic epoch]

As long as their element still exists in the world, they cannot die

[bleak hare]

What does that mean Kobe Bryant

Oh ok

[magic epoch]

As long as water exists, Anahita cannot die

As long as life exists, Silva cannot die

[bleak hare]

So she can just remake herself I’m assuming

[split mortar]

Long as heat exists on the planet brimmy cannot die

[bleak hare]

That’s how

[magic epoch]

⏲️

[timber glacier]

Which like those are all not actually things that can like happen

[bleak hare]

She’s the brimstone elemental not heat elemental

[west plume]

shes a heat elemental

[split mortar]

Weong

[cloud ibex]

No shes fire

[bleak hare]

They would name her heat elemental

[cloud ibex]

She just prefers to be in the form of brimstone fire specifically

[bleak hare]

Or fire idk

[magic epoch]

Sand elemental also isn't just sand

[timber glacier]

No cos that sounds way less cool than brimstone elemental

[magic epoch]

Sand elemental is the actual earth elemental

[bleak hare]

Actually hold on let’s stick with that idea

[timber glacier]

Shes only part of it

So is granite elemental

[magic epoch]

Oh okay

[split mortar]

As seen with how there are ice elementals and sand elementals and granite elementals the elementals can represent subsections of their dominion
Brimmy is heat while representing brimstone cause its absurdly hot fires i assume

[magic epoch]

Cosmic Elemental where are you

Cosmic Elemental come back

[bleak hare]

Granite elemental I thought were just souls or sum shit embedded in the granite

[magic epoch]

Please

[timber glacier]

Found shot in a back alley in tokyo japan

So sad

[bleak hare]

Lmao

[magic epoch]

Cosmic Elemental no

[split mortar]

P sure its just
Smaller earth elementals

[bleak hare]

Oh ok

I’m assuming the granite golems are the same?

[timber glacier]

I miss my stupid random sword dropping chud elemental son

[bleak hare]

Go with the assumption they would be

[timber glacier]

Chaos elementals are also completely unrelated to the actual elementals for some reason but like do have the name of one

[split mortar]

WAIT ITS A STICKER

[cloud ibex]

It is

Don’t spend it all in one place

[bleak hare]

Fuck wait what about granite energy storm from thorium (I kinda sorta unofficially write IEoR lore not really akira might hate me but I did write the infernal pyrogen relic description)

[magic epoch]

[mighty zenith]

we just need dumbledore idk as an emote now

[magic epoch]

I fear that thorium lore does not apply to calamity

[bleak hare]

In IEoR it does

[timber glacier]

Buried champion is the god of war totally

[split mortar]

Just a lot of granite elementals fused into a stronger body idk

[mighty zenith]

thats a modpack

not made by any of the devs of the mods included

[magic epoch]

That's not calamity though

lol

[bleak hare]

Ye ik

[west plume]

thorium is unrelated to calamity in every capacity. we do not have contact with thorium developers and no lore devs are in the thorium dev team

[bleak hare]

I’m not referring to calamity mb should have stated

I think in that though granite is just hood at conducting energy explaining all the granite enemies tho

So it’s sorta retconned

[magic epoch]

How does the granite crab from forgotten evils work in calamity lore 😳

[timber glacier]

Cancelled for being problematic and all the gods want to kill it

[mighty zenith]

how does work in calamity lore

[timber glacier]

Sent to the granite explosion chamber

[split mortar]

Food

[west plume]

corn that someone gave evil fertilizer to

[timber glacier]

Its some kind of god of Corn or some thing idk

[magic epoch]

Hm… I don't know. There doesn't seem to be corn in Terraria, nor Calamity… how queer.

[bleak hare]

Ok mb gng😭🙏

[west plume]

@cosmic zenith Does maize canonically exist in the Calamity Mod for Terraria?

[mighty zenith]

queer corn

[timber glacier]

Is the evil corn woke

[bleak hare]

I’m assuming it would l

[mighty zenith]

evil corn is a capitalist

[west plume]

we need to canonize cereal grains

[timber glacier]

Add an astral popcorn food item dropped by like astral enemies or something

[split mortar]

Thunder type question i think

[bleak hare]

Like I’m assuming a lot of the shit that’s in real life is in both terraria and calamity canonically it just doesn’t get added to the gameplay because who wants to add the 1.3 or however many million species that live in the Amazon

[long bloom]

that's what you should do yes

[mighty zenith]

wrong

thunder would ask if they can ask a question first

[split mortar]

Ok true

[timber glacier]

Add a lore tablet thing which lists every single animal and object thats canon to calamity from earth

[bleak hare]

Yo so what other kingdoms exist in the different continents of calamity

[west plume]

everything except for llamas which do not canonically exist

[split mortar]

According to old ass dev statement
Theres a city made of crystal
All we know is it exists

[bleak hare]

It would be the longest continuous piece of writing in history

[timber glacier]

Isn’t one continent like fantasy Australia and its like literally on fire

[west plume]

maybe hyraxes as well

[bleak hare]

I live in Australia if that’s cannon I’m offended

[bleak hare]

What did the llamas do😭🥀

[timber glacier]

in calamity canon half life three actually exists canonically

[split mortar]

Yeah its the worst continent to live on, other then the heartlands post wall of flesh

[long bloom]

Evil Hell Continent yes

[west plume]

This is the most common type of weasel in the Heartlands. It's called an Evil Sable

[timber glacier]

Damn I guess I live in hell

[bleak hare]

What is the heartlands

I am genuinely clueless

[long bloom]

where the game happens

[timber glacier]

Also isn’t there like fantasy brazil as one of the continents as well

[bleak hare]

Is Quinn Aussie

What footy team do you go for

[timber glacier]

No I live in the actual underworld

[split mortar]

The nickname for the continent that we play on
The actual canon name is whatever the world name on world creation is

[bleak hare]

Oh ok

[long bloom]

yeag this

[bleak hare]

Yeah makes sense

[timber glacier]

Also I don’t care at all about footy I HATE feet

[west plume]

do u levitate

🕴️

[timber glacier]

No I cling to the roof with my hands

[west plume]

spider-like

[timber glacier]

Did the emu war canonically happen in calamity lore? Since fantasy Australia exists would a fantasy version of the emu war occur

[west plume]

there's no proof that ratites exist in the heartlands sorry

[timber glacier]

wait what if the god of war caused the emu war 🤔

[west plume]

not a single emu, ostrich, rhea or cassowary is in-game

cannot be proven

[timber glacier]

They must be added next update

[split mortar]

How many lionfish to beat xeroc

[timber glacier]

~2^34

[west plume]

1 i assume he's allergic to deadly venom

if xeroc ate a lionfish he would die

[split mortar]

Amazing

[timber glacier]

So would the lionfish so whos winning in the end

[west plume]

fair point

[split mortar]

Nah xerocs so allergic they die after one bite so the fish lives

[bleak hare]

Is the hallowed and evil biomes present on the other continents or no

I’m assuming not

[timber glacier]

I can’t wait for when xeroc gets added and he is weak to sickness debuffs from this dev statement

[bleak hare]

I have a whole xeroc fight planned out deadass

I’m shit at drawing tho so

[timber glacier]

I wonder if xeroc would survive being put in a hydraulic press

[split mortar]

Shouldnt be since they are caused by the influence of god essence infecting a place
And there is not enough essence to slam the essence through the planet and reach a continent i think

[west plume]

no

[timber glacier]

okay so now we know the hydraulic volt crasher will one-shot him canon

[split mortar]

Thats the hydraulic volt crasher not a hydraulic press

[west plume]

lore discussioners be like Would Xeroc survive having all 4 limbs chopped off and then being tortured in super hell for eternity

[timber glacier]

no my master strat

[mighty zenith]

the goku specia

l

[timber glacier]

Would xeroc survive being betrayed and trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber for 100 years

[raven brook]

Xeroc blindfolded no limbs domain sealed infected with astral trapped in the distortion vs slime god

[split mortar]

Xeroc vs the hypersymbolic lion tamer

[timber glacier]

Why does the terrarian get blindness immunity from a blindfold? Are they stupid?

[split mortar]

Gojo reference

[west plume]

they hold the blindfold in front of them to block the light source

[mighty zenith]

cant get more blind when you're blindfolded

🔥

[timber glacier]

Slime fraud would somehow still loose this matchup

[raven brook]

Thats what im saying.

[split mortar]

Oh right cheese hates current slime god

[timber glacier]

Slime fraud is a stupid slime chud

[split mortar]

Slime god vs a mc flurry

[timber glacier]

Mc flurry neg difs

[split mortar]

Quinn vs Bug Tester

[timber glacier]

I’d die

[pulsar ocean]

would calamitas like 67

[timber glacier]

I’d fold like a piece of paper

[timber glacier]

She’d kill you dead

[west plume]

yes, she's a zoomer

[split mortar]

Kozz vs a Calamitas who hates 67

[pulsar ocean]

execute order 67

[timber glacier]

What if instead of 67 being memed so much we memed out 87 like the year of the bite lr something

Slime god vs green slime who wins

[split mortar]

Slime god

[timber glacier]

Slime fraud would find a way to fumble the fight

They kinda somehow lost to fucking queen slime kinda since they couldn’t like get out of her

Random thought could spongebob beat calamity

[west plume]

yes

[bleak hare]

Where does xeroc scale?

[heavy sail]

why didn't yharim simply round up all the auric gods and put em in a hydraulic press? is he stupid?

[bleak hare]

Like planetary maybe

He’s able to take power from the sun actually

[timber glacier]

Silva is immortal so like she would prevent it from fully squishing

[bleak hare]

Or use it anyway

[split mortar]

With dev statement hell
Seems somewhere mountain level is the aim

[pulsar ocean]

me

[west plume]

powerscaling is stupid and you shouldnt think about calamity characters in that sense. either way, xeroc could not destroy the planet in any reasonable amount of time just like no other character can

[bleak hare]

Holy shit their so much weaker than I though

[timber glacier]

I’m turning you into a slime

I’m slime fraud

[scenic kraken]

What if the only way to kill Draedron is by uploading youtube shorts into his brain

[cloud ibex]

Calamity scales way lower than you might think

[bleak hare]

Calamitas blew up the ocean though

[heavy sail]

and then turn the lingering deific essences into a tasty smoothie to share with his cosmic worm friend!

[scenic kraken]

THAT'S WHAT I SAID

[split mortar]

Yeah in weeks

[west plume]

destroying draedon's central server by uploading 5tb of insta reels to his main storage device

[split mortar]

And not an ocean

[timber glacier]

Also zeratros could just turn the sun up even more if we wanted to kill like everyone so like

[split mortar]

Just a sea

[bleak hare]

Oh wait really

[split mortar]

She blew up a sea over a few weeks

[bleak hare]

Oh ok

Makes more sense actually

[scenic kraken]

Best case scenario, he fucking dies

Worst case scenario...

He becomes a cotton field owner.

[mighty zenith]

consider the fact that you could not reasonably picture an entire town in your head unless heavily shrunk down on a map

and then consider the fact that someone like yharim is capable of wiping out an entire town

[scenic kraken]

Also, isn't like, current technology a thing in Terraria?

[mighty zenith]

its not weak when you actually think about, it only sounds weak when powerscalers throw around terms like multiversal or whatever

[scenic kraken]

Why the fuck is Yharim using a fucking irock

[timber glacier]

Golf carts exist so some modern tech exists

So do cell phones

[bleak hare]

Actually makes wrath of the gods (though obv it ain’t canon) a million times funnier because what do you mean we jump from mountain to boundless in two bosses😭😭

[scenic kraken]

A fucking iRock

[timber glacier]

He can’t get no wifi in the aerie

[scenic kraken]

Brother is drippied in gold yet can't buy a samsung 💀

[split mortar]

The devs aim for heavy hitters like calamitas and yharim to be in the level of city level iirc
Cant really talk about actual feats cause uh, we dunno the actual size of the ilmeran sea and dev statements about powerscaling is the least consistent stuff ever

[timber glacier]

Powerscaling is kinda dumb as a whole

[west plume]

calamitas was able to boil a big fucking body of water and by the same logic the size of water she boils is fairly arbitrary, it just differs the amount of time she takes to do it

[split mortar]

Not really?

[west plume]

Yes!

You get it!

[scenic kraken]

Fuck powerscaling

Let's drip scale

[bleak hare]

Yh u kinda right

[timber glacier]

Like you can’t just try to sum someone down to a number and act like theres no nuance to character fightings and like stuff

[split mortar]

He wins

[scenic kraken]

The Ice Sunglasses make him the winner

[bleak hare]

Depending on interpretation character can scale way beyond what they are supposed to

[west plume]

permafrost is an old geezer so he shouldn't be able to participate in drip scaling

[split mortar]

If powerscaling is done well then uh
They account for that beyond the raw powers

[timber glacier]

God named kevin vs guy who can instantly kill anyone called kevin would be like something stupid to powersscale

[cloud ibex]

I’ve never been particularly fond of reducing fictional works to which character could beat up someone else the hardest

[heavy sail]

oh damn, i didn't realize that. i thought she just vaporized most of in one incident. it taking longer is actually more unsettling, it's slow and deliberate and basically actual hell for the illmarians. also leaves more time for many of them to escape, fortunately... but not everyone was so lucky.
and i wonder what her dad thought of his daughter mysteriously disappearing for a week or so, especially if yharim was out too. like he puts two and two together and, uh oh. oh no. the thing he was afraid of finally happened

[scenic kraken]

Yharim might look cool, but he tries too hard tbh

[split mortar]

Yeah engaging with media in just powerscaling aint the best

[timber glacier]

Like analysing who would win in a fight is interesting but it often feels like people try to force it into everything

[west plume]

not all of them were amphibious so a lot of them just had to sit there and wait to be boiled to death :p

[split mortar]

Sheesh

[scenic kraken]

That's why I'm saying Goku is better than Rimuru

Dragon Ball is just a way more engaging tale

[bleak hare]

Where did the illmerians go

Ain’t the fish

They

[timber glacier]

Cooked alive

Boiled even

[bleak hare]

Damn

[scenic kraken]

Mmmmmmmmm fish boil

[bleak hare]

Shit

[cloud ibex]

I have no idea who the fuck rimuru is but I believe you

[heavy sail]

:o very rude!!!

[scenic kraken]

We should have Calamitas try to cook something for us

[split mortar]

Those that did not flea died
We know some can be on land look at amidias

[timber glacier]

The real question is where the fuck was tyrian since the lore doc doesn’t mention if he was there or not

[bleak hare]

Yh u right

[scenic kraken]

The Slime turned Magician Goddess whatever

[west plume]

he's had like 100 years to get all the limited edition azafure designer drip that's unfair

[split mortar]

Oh its because tyrian is not confirmed dead

[timber glacier]

Did he get boiled or did he get the hell out of there

[bleak hare]

What does Tyrian even do he just dipped😭🥀

[timber glacier]

What does tyrian even do for real

[cloud ibex]

Still have no idea who the fuck this is

[scenic kraken]

I don't care that the oc's power is "beat goku' or that his motivation is "beats goku" from the anime "I beat Goku in one shot"

HE AIN'T TOUCHING MY GOAT CAUSE THE STORY AIN'T IT 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[timber glacier]

Arguably more of a fraud than sg since slime god at least like did something cool with making their paladins

[split mortar]

Tyrian is most likely dead since
It was yknow
The fucking supreme brimstone witch
But technically might be alive

[bleak hare]

Also I saw something about some ice in calamity being unmeltsble

What does that mean

[cloud ibex]

I know nothing about anime other than jojo and (some) one piece

[bleak hare]

Not all ice mind you

I would assume

I only know DB

[scenic kraken]

Who wins

Calamitas, The Undisputed Ruler of Brimstone Flame and Sin

VS

One Ice Block.

[timber glacier]

But like it feels like him not being mentioned feels like that is so the devs can have him still be alive since that makes sense for a dev staindpoint kinda

[split mortar]

I think you on about the cryonic ore? Idk its magic

[heavy sail]

true... he's an honorable mention for me at least. i think calamitas' robes are pretty stylish, not to mention iconic. maybe she wins

[scenic kraken]

...then how the FUCK do we make bars out it?!

[bleak hare]

What do you mean flame and sun what is the sun part I’m assuming that was just for aura

[scenic kraken]

SIN

[split mortar]

The impurities melt away

[timber glacier]

Permafrost is an old man who like made the tundra colder or somet hing

[scenic kraken]

SIN BECAUSE SHE IS JUST A DEVIL

i think

Idk

[bleak hare]

No

[scenic kraken]

why does she have horns?

[split mortar]

She is an azafurian
A human

[cloud ibex]

Shes literally a human

[timber glacier]

Azafurians seemed to have horns

[split mortar]

Azafurians just sorta have them

[scenic kraken]

Ohhhhh

[cloud ibex]

Azafurians seemingly just have horns

[timber glacier]

Like maybe due to potentially slight relations ships between specific azafurians and demons maybe

Like maybe because of interbreeding or something

[scenic kraken]

I like to think that her having small horns was a thing she was mocked for in school

[timber glacier]

Did she even go to school

[scenic kraken]

"Mr. Calamitas' dad, have you been dippin' in the chocolate?"

[split mortar]

Did she even go to school she was poor

[west plume]

azafurians aren't demihumans, they're just dark skinned humans who naturally have keratinous horns

[timber glacier]

I thought like her and her brothers like were like living on the streets

[scenic kraken]

Oh she was a BUM

[mighty zenith]

they had jobs

[scenic kraken]

(i'm joking)

[mighty zenith]

they just werent doing well financially

plus having to take care of their little sister

[scenic kraken]

Sooo basically anyone starting to work in 2026 gotcha

[timber glacier]

Dead parents also right

[mighty zenith]

yep

[split mortar]

Calamitas literally went from poor homeless normal girl to nuclear bomb when she confronted the brimstone elemental

[west plume]

when is it stated that calamitas was homeless?

genuine question

[mighty zenith]

i dont think they were homeless

[scenic kraken]

I like to imagine that Calamitas was looking with child like envy at other kids who had just a better life

[scenic kraken]

"Speed, please, my sister is kinda homeless"

[split mortar]

Idk i just saw others saying it rn and i havent had the time to re read cal lore due to college and other stuff

[timber glacier]

I thought like her brothers were just generally not like making a ton of money from boxing and mercanery things or like only did those to afford expenses or maybe I’m misremembering their lore

[heavy sail]

also, worth noting that the super cool cosmaticmango art of permy is him after he left the yharmy, he's slightly raggedy and you can see he's had to re-stitch his cloak a couple times. he probably dressed differently when he was part of yharim's court. i like to think he had a cool ice diadem or something

[scenic kraken]

Did we ever get human designs for Calamitas' brothers?

[west plume]

she was in the underclass, sure, but i'm really unsure about homeless even though it's written that her brothers died before the brimming and she isn't currently written to have had a job

[timber glacier]

It is sweet how like they did seem to care for calamitas so much that when revived they still try to protect her despite undead normally only returning to survival instincts

[mighty zenith]

catastrophe worked as a mercenary so they could afford food

[scenic kraken]

I'll assume no