lore-discussion

[west plume]

i don't think not knowing much about the land implies that you couldn't have been a peasant farmer who had their town destroyed by a godseeker testing out the SHPC

[wanton pendant]

I only meant in a 'if you take this line completely literally' sense.

[eternal veldt]

Well to be fair the continent might have been huge

[west plume]

i don't think you should because draedon is a computer with loads of servers and hard drives that is constantly collecting and analyzing data 👍

his perspective of 'knowing' about the land is really skewed due to that

[robust osprey]

the terrarian is from the terrarian generator machine

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian might just have been a normal farmer that was not affected by anything

[west plume]

'you were grown in a vat of green goo by mr. evil scientist' is a valid origin tho so it's kinda difficult to write around

[eternal veldt]

Guide was the one who made it. 🥀

To be fair anything could be possible. I think that's the fun in it

[west plume]

i think some of calamity's ability to tell it's own story falls apart since we can't rely on the player's implied or observational knowledge at all since literally anything can be possible

but i think it's a good compromise to not restrict any players who r lore fans from roleplaying whatever they want

[eternal veldt]

You can simply give players choices.

[wanton pendant]

Scope creep...

[eternal veldt]

Journey mode players roleplaying as god 🥀

[west plume]

draedon watching you replicate an endless amount of miracle matter from thin air after studying it for a lil bit

[eternal veldt]

Honestly you just tanking his greatest creations is worst 😭

[plucky juniper]

the real issue with "terrarian is up to you!" thing is that the various statements here showcase that there are, in fact, some specifics to the terrarian in mind

as well as ingame behavior that implies things about the terrarian

• they're not a god, otherwise yharim wouldn't be so "nice" to you
• they're not an auric dragon otherwise auric ore wouldn't reject you
• the terrarian is actually an absurdly good engineer and forgemaster. they were able to create an armor set similar to yharim's that could replicate auric immunity, and were able to replicate draedon's forge and stabilize miracle matter, which was enough for draedon to cede the naming rights to the terrarian

also the codebreaker

i think the terrarian started out as a talented blacksmith or something similar

[eternal snow]

Is the terrarian an implied alien

[plucky juniper]

no

nothing says that they cant be one tho

[raven brook]

they're not an auric dragon otherwise auric ore wouldn't reject you

Ok i think there's a bit more going on than just that for me to say they're not an auric dragon

You say they lack the Auric part but i think it's worth noting, of coruse,

As one may expect and perceive

The rather important part of information regards to the nature of the Terrarian,

the lack of Dragon

[eternal snow]

How does this affect powerscalling

[raven brook]

The general backstory and characterization is up to you but some things are implied ot some extent yeah

[eternal snow]

Unless the terrarian is emotionless like frisk and you slapped some lore on it

[eternal veldt]

Not much tbh.

It's the terrarian you can make shit up

Ofc when making up the story you still have to consider early game limitations. All RPG games does this

You can't be just god from the start

Unless ofc you really want to. There is always a way for that

All comes down to imagination and how much you wanna larp

[plucky juniper]

i think what i was trying to get at is that, whatever the terrarian is like, there's some things that they simply arent

[eternal veldt]

That comes with every RPG story not just calamity

[eternal veldt]

And just like any RPG story you can still become a god if you made a valid enough reason for it

All comes down to creative writing honestly

[wanton pendant]

What?

Anyway, Terrarian is basically Skyrim rules.

[eternal snow]

You know this when they make the mc silent so you can project yourself or your lore onto it

[wanton pendant]

I don't see what that has to do with your message.

[eternal snow]

That frisk and the terrarian are open to interpretation

[raven brook]

I mean yeah that's exactly what i said too

[leaden bridge]

Skeletron prime

[noble falcon]

Comes with every Dragonlunchly meal, now with 20% less xenon moss!

[leaden bridge]

This is who you're supporting @dragonlovers btw

[distant smelt]

Implies the existence of Dragon logan paul

[light linden]

NO

[noble falcon]

There is a non-0 chance that such a thing or an equivalent of it existed in the age of dragons

If it did, that’s a pretty good reason for the moon lord to show up and start shenaniganizing all over them

[fathom locust]

f*bsol if he wrote the lore (kept adding random bullshit)

[raven brook]

what

[plain crane]

what

[agile matrix]

wheh

[leaden bridge]

i think its funny fabsol gets to be a random lol boogeyman now if he were still alive today he'd do some thing i'm abscribing to him for no particular reason

[timber glacier]

“If he were still alive today” why you talking like he died

[fathom locust]

I thought people would get it 🙁

[fathom locust]

he didnt care about game balance and kept adding shit from games he was playing at the time

[timber glacier]

Wait did something actually happen to him

Outside of like getting kicked out

[stuck solstice]

||nothing happend.||

am i gonna get images banned again 🥹

[eager bluff]

yeah sorry we're killing you

[timber glacier]

Mods put them into the exo explosion chamber and explode them

[cyan steppe]

oh you meant here

[cyan steppe]

again?!?!?!

[stuck solstice]

images were once banned due to people spamming memes and shitposts.

[cyan steppe]

lol

[stuck solstice]

iirc

[cyan steppe]

i thought you specifically had your image perms temporarily removed at some point in time😭

[stuck solstice]

nono

[hoary cape]

After reviewing this channel I have decided to remove speaking perms

[soft flame]

hmm

[cosmic zenith]

Tell me more :)

[wanton pendant]

🇫🇷 🥫 ❌

[timber glacier]

🧠 ⛈️

[robust osprey]

👌︎🕆︎❄︎ 🕈︎☟︎✡︎

:(

[wanton pendant]

👮 📈 🏠 🎙️

[timber glacier]

🐷 👿

[frail hearth]

do we know anything concrete about the powercouple's personalities?

I will literally take a fluffy romance fic off AO3 if it means something to work off QwQ

I'm being normal about blorbos again is my reasoning

[timber glacier]

Which powercouple are you refering to

[frail hearth]

who else? Signus and Brealor. If they're not the most powerful couple in the mod they're certainly a contender for that title >u>

I don't count Yahrim and Yahram as a power couple cus they're not mackin on each other so it dosen't count

they're more dynamic dou energy

[hoary cape]

I don't know I decided to be a tyrant

[frail hearth]

Top ten tyrants

[willow wharf]

human x dragon yaoi is everywhere for those with eyes that see

[plucky juniper]

MODERATORS

ANOTHER BOT

[worldly spindle]

Dia-fuckin-biolical

[plucky juniper]

new stuff needa be added to the blacklisted links list

[eager bluff]

ive noticed recently its been only in this channel

like specifically that kind of scam

[worldly spindle]

Oh? Interesting

[eager bluff]

now granted recently ive only been online for two of them but it is strange that they seem to have not hit any other channels

[feral skiff]

is this survivorship bias

[eager bluff]

no because im not even seeing channels lighting up

a bot doesnt spend 5 minutes not throwing scam links in as many channels as it can

[plucky juniper]

i certainly think its still a bot, given what i was able to see of their pfp (probably ai-generated "well-endowed" woman) and what they posted

knowing about how theres discord channels that are using honeypot trap channels to obliterate bots who spam stuff on all channels

i could fancibly suggest its a slightly more advanced bot that isnt? i dunno

not spamming shit on all channels

[nimble mist]

You're actually correct in this particular case
This particular crypto scam has only been sent in this channel the 3 times it has been sent
Very strange

[nimble mist]

We don't have a blacklist, we have a whitelist
I have no idea how it got through three times

[noble falcon]

Draedon caught us saying he’d lose to Metal Sonic so he sent his finest scam bots to promote ExoCoin

[agile matrix]

wait what

who said that how would he lose

[nimble mist]

Robotnik himself versus Draedon would be a fairer contest

Metal Sonic would be going up against the Hardmode Mech Bosses in that case I think

[mighty zenith]

i think if we're including ALL of eggman's mechs

then he wins

i dont think exo mechs can beat stuff like Egg Dragoon, Metal Overlord or the Death Egg Robots from forces

all at once

[sinful adder]

Metal sonic is like way stronger than all of eggman's other stuff combined

[terse moss]

Wait Eggman kills Draedon

the sonic universe has like the most insane scaling ever for no reason at all

[mighty zenith]

most of it comes from the archie comics, which arent canon material

though yeah it has ridiculous scaling

[terse moss]

True

even outside of those you get to like multiversal for some god forsaken reason

[mighty zenith]

mostly thanks to sonic 06

[terse moss]

Sonic ping pongs between multiversal and like building level every game

[mighty zenith]

cause solaris is like. time itself or something

[terse moss]

yeah

whatever solaris is

[mighty zenith]

fucking idk i dont remember that game's plot

cause its ass

[terse moss]

Also like metal overlord

or the boss in frontiers

[mighty zenith]

The End took Super Sonic and Sage controlling one of the titans

neo metal can both turn super from the master emerald and can transform into metal overlord who required 12 people to be beaten, including super sonic

[terse moss]

Also didn't eggman cut the moon in half or something

like no matter how you slice it, Draedon gets walked

[mighty zenith]

with the space colony ARK yeah

[terse moss]

"Take that Obama"

[mighty zenith]

the eclipse cannon is strong enough to destroy the planet

though tbf it wasnt eggman's

[terse moss]

Still

Eggman has made like half a dozen things, each of which scale like 5 tiers higher than exos

[mighty zenith]

yeah eggman wins just by the pure numbers

metal overlord could probably solo everything draedon has

[terse moss]

oh easily

regular metal could

[mighty zenith]

ehh, base metal isnt that strong

neo metal i can believe though

that data copy is crazy

[terse moss]

Isn't base metal comparable to base sonic, some versions of which could easily beat exos

depends on the version tho

[mighty zenith]

base metal has been a real jobber nowadays

like losing to surge, who isnt as strong as sonic afaik

[terse moss]

Huh

I will admit, I am not super up to date on sonic lore, I just know the general vibes

[mighty zenith]

though my memory of later idw is hazy

ive only read it once

[terse moss]

Calamity scales really low and tbh I like that because it feels more grounded, in a sense

Like it feels like actual combats with stakes

[mighty zenith]

sonic scaling is kind of all over the place so

[terse moss]

True

as with any comic or anything with a bunch of versions

Thats why I dislike things like "can Superman beat Goku" taking the strongest superman ever is the equivalent of taking some like wacko fan goku

Like there is no consistency in the scaling of superman, but there is onyl one canon Goku, so he is easier to work with

trying to compare them is apples to oranges

which Superman? There are thousands

[mighty zenith]

pretty much

[terse moss]

Keeping sclaing lower fixes a lot of tehse issues imo

less likely for plot holes too

[wanton pendant]

Solaris was not time itself.
It ate time.

Also Eggman once built a weapon that was significantly stronger than the Eclipse Cannon, used it once and it was promptly absorbed by Emerl.

[wheat walrus]

Can be both, just like me

Im the ouroboros of all things

[wanton pendant]

Wesker!?

[eternal veldt]

Doesn't most sonic fans usually have power fantasies? I have no problem with them since a lot of them are my friends.

[mighty zenith]

eh

[eternal veldt]

The ocs atleast. Normal sonic im pretty sure is pretty powerful already

[mighty zenith]

i think most people moved on from making overpowered OCs

thats more of an early 2010s thing

[eternal veldt]

Hopefully

[wanton pendant]

Now they make Sonic.exe ocs.

[mighty zenith]

pretty much

though some are actually pretty cool

i like rewrite

[eternal veldt]

Wait are we comparing sonic to calamity bosses and stuff?

[mighty zenith]

that was the topic before

draedon vs eggman

[eternal veldt]

Hmm.. that doesn't seem fair

[wanton pendant]

Completely unfair matchup.
Draedon would actually die.

[eternal veldt]

Sonic characters are already busted as hell...

[fathom locust]

metal solos the entire verse already

[wanton pendant]

What next, Solaris Vs. Xeroc?

[eternal veldt]

Hell the critter robots would actually put up a fight

[wanton pendant]

Draedon watching Cream the Rabbit deploy Cheese.

[eternal veldt]

Either way i hate scaling characters with alot of versions.

Im just gonna look at the story if it's shit or not

[sinful adder]

My reasoning is that draedon is technically a better scientist and engineer, but Sonic's universe just allows broken strong stuff to exist easily, so eggman's machines are all stupidly powerful regardless of eggman's skill

[wanton pendant]

Cease.

[sinful adder]

This is how I justify eggman's complete lack of aura

[fathom locust]

he only lacks aura if its against sonic

everyone else he bodies

[mighty zenith]

eggman can have plenty of aura

[sinful adder]

Ok sometimes I guess

[wanton pendant]

Is that where he killed that guy?

[eternal veldt]

Eggman pretty sure can go toe to toe with sonic

[wanton pendant]

He works out.

[mighty zenith]

i dont remember if starline died there but eggman did toss him around like a ragdoll

[eternal veldt]

Although maybe that's because eggman does have crazy sonic shit. If he did came into the calamity world with only calamity materials i can see the vision

[wanton pendant]

Unless he shows up again, he's dead.

[fathom locust]

i think it was indirectly but yes he did kill him

[eternal veldt]

But then again... a crackhead with a fancy space scissors could body draedon's machines...

[mighty zenith]

he might honestly

[wanton pendant]

He'd somehow suck Yharon's soul out of his body then lecture Yharim about how they's no point of conquering if he kills everyone.

[mighty zenith]

i do hope he stays dead

[eternal veldt]

Maybe. Toonforce is pretty goofy

[wanton pendant]

You say that as if it's an actual super power.

[eternal veldt]

It's plot armor

[mighty zenith]

its some powerscaling shit i think

[eternal veldt]

Fancy plot armor for cartoon characters

[wanton pendant]

Powerscalers just make stuff up.

Apparently they think literally everyone in Castlevania has infinite speed.

[eternal veldt]

I mean there is no way to explain how cartoon characters does stuff

[wanton pendant]

It's cartoon logic not an intrinsic ability of the characters.

[eternal veldt]

It's really funny cuz im pretty sure uncle grandpa can solo every verse

[cloud ibex]

yeah because it's a cartoon it's not meant to make sense it's meant to be funny

[eternal veldt]

Exactly

[cloud ibex]

bugs bunny can beat anyone unless it would be really fucking funny if he didn't

same with saitama

[eternal veldt]

Saitama is a bit different though

[cloud ibex]

no in the early seasons that's pretty much him

he oneshots everyone until he goes up against a fucking mosquito and loses

[eternal veldt]

Probobly. Later seasons though his powers got defined more

[wanton pendant]

With Saitama it actually is an intrinsic ability of him. That's the whole point.
(Although he only has to be stronger than everyone else in One Punch Man. It doesn't matter whether or not he can beat Goku for instance.)

[eternal veldt]

Yep saitama's thing was he is more powerful no matter how strong his enemy is.

But that's been a rule in the series

Wow this place got really off topic. Calamity lore been dry huh. 😭

[split mortar]

Being off topic is common for lore chat

[worthy sierra]

what are the potential men of calamity

[leaden bridge]

All of them

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc.

[feral skiff]

Xeroc is the strongest character in the Calamity Lore and only appears ingame.. once

[fathom locust]

noxus:

[leaden bridge]

He never appears in game I don't count the bossrush eye

[feral skiff]

it’s an indirect appearance but it still counts

[robust osprey]

statis

his reveal will be crazy!!! his motives will blow your mind!!!

[wanton pendant]

Statis motive: I like men.

[fathom locust]

this is the reason he didnt kill yharim

[noble falcon]

As long as there are men in existence other than himself, he cannot die in a way that matters
This is his secret strength

[timber glacier]

That suggest hes the man elemental cos thats how they work

[eternal veldt]

Ok quick question. Who owned the murasama?

[fathom locust]

me because im awesome

(((it has no lore relevance)))

[mighty zenith]

nobody because its not canon

you can make up a reason for it if you want as a headcanon but it has no place in the official lore

[eternal veldt]

I see so it's like a dev item

[mighty zenith]

pretty much

its like deerclops

literally just a thing from another game

[eternal veldt]

How about the enchanted sword though.. the one from the shrine not the handmade one. Anything from the docs?

[mighty zenith]

enchanted sword isnt a direct reference to another game

[eternal veldt]

Ark is basically just an upgraded enchanted sword

[mighty zenith]

so its just like, an ancient sword

magically infused sword or something

[eternal veldt]

I see i thought it would have some kind of lore

[mighty zenith]

not really

most weapons themselves dont have much lore significance

[eternal veldt]

Well ig it leaves up to the players imagination

[mighty zenith]

they just give insight into other things

like the exhumed weapons being interesting due to giving us calamitas' perspective

not due to the weapons themselves

[leaden bridge]

john ancient put it there before the crusade hoping it'd grow strong enough to defeat yharim by now but forgot to make the sword of a good material that can actually hold that much power

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

I wonder if i can write a fanfiction about tis.

[leaden bridge]

You can do anything. Should you do anything?

[mighty zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390885066728800408/1489235257931862026/I_CAN_YOU_CAN_WE_CAN_DO_ANYTHING.gif

[eternal veldt]

Ehh probobly. It's not gonna touch any events from calamity. I just wanna focus on the sword itself. So i can larp while using it >:D

Enchanted sword carried me till calamitas after all 😭

[wanton pendant]

It's the Amateur Sword. It's like the Master Sword except it sucks.

[sturdy cave]

You're not supposed to remove Jevil's hat

[thick slate]

jrvil

[timber glacier]

Junkil mention

I love chapter rewritten

[noble falcon]

(Yharim after Draedon hands him the finest weapon he’s yet made) This cosplay is gonna be so epic broski

[graceful warren]

Hot take here I think all the god bosses should be hardmode bosses. God Slime being a pre hardmode boss makes zero sense

[wanton pendant]

That might change.

[graceful warren]

I mean i dont mind god slime even being the first god you fight. Symbolizing he is one of the weaker gods

[robust osprey]

I'd say it kinda does

like. beating EoC already could earn you the title of local legend

or something

iirc

[eternal veldt]

Technically didn't "fight" slime god

You fought its paladins

[graceful warren]

Okay fair but also like same difference

[split mortar]

That is likely to change as was said earlier
But also why does it make zero sense? Gluttony does not seem the domain of a strong dragon and neither is slime and slime god actively starves themself
Slimes are the weakest enemies in terraria the god of slimes being in the first third of the game makes sense to me

Also compared to most things slime god is still stronger then most

[graceful warren]

Okay i mean all that is fair but you defeating him in prehard mode. Just to fight him again in hardmode just seems kinda werid

[split mortar]

Thats because thats a hotfix with them not being able to change slime god due to fabsol, yeah its wack but they could not really do much else
With fabsol gone the devs have talked about swapping calclone and slimegod

[eternal veldt]

Calclone wouldn't make sense either

[eternal veldt]

Honestly i think slime god where it is, is already pretty ok. Considering the moment terrarian kills one of the evil bosses like brain. Is already like a low tier god level.

[graceful warren]

Yeah that's fair

[raven brook]

its not really about it making sense becasue you can amke "sense" out of either of these fights being wherever

it's about what's narratively satisfying and also satisfying from a gameplay perspective

[eternal veldt]

Well it does make sense that's why it's satisfying

[raven brook]

save for something ridiculous like calclone being post yharim or something

As #1 sg hater i think slime god's current placement is Ass

i'm more indifferent towards calclone's placement tho idm her being swapped with sg if it means dude gets to be tier shifted

Queen slime's existence throws a massive wrench on Slime God's placement nad it shows with the, bandaid fix writers had to thrown in to justify it

Me fighting the modded boss and to get a rematch foreshadowed only for the rematch to not only be like only 2 bosses i nprogression later, but it's also a vanilla fight, and one of the worst vanilla fights, and also unless you read the queen slime whisper there would be no way to tell that queen slime is slime god in the narrative

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

imagine a post-eoc boss called the Lord of the Swarm and then you fight it and it escapes

and you get a rematch hyped up for it

yeah sorry the rematch was just Queen Bee actually

you can only find this out through reading the queen bee whisper that drops from it

[long bloom]

i mean i think it's reasonable to not know the lore if you don't read the lore

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

I mean...

[raven brook]

Communicating the lore properly is something the writers are responsible for

ANd they're awrae of this

Well, not just the writers, of course

[eternal veldt]

Alot of people actually thought yharim was a good guy

[raven brook]

Programmers, artists etc would also contribute

If the only single communication of a lore element is a bit of infodump in a item that is generally not good communication and i mean

that's a known issue

There is absolutely nothing communicating that queen slime is slime god other than

1. its a slime, i guess?
2. the lore whisper

[graceful warren]

I mean manly queen slime needs a redesign. To make it look like its slime god

[raven brook]

this is Not good communication of the fact it is Slime God

[eternal veldt]

Isn't the whispers not a good source for the lore???

[raven brook]

Not happening because slime god is being tier shifted

trust

🙂‍↕️

[graceful warren]

So does that mean queen slime is gonna be reconned

[raven brook]

The whispers are from a biased third party and should be taken with a grain of salt but they are still Lore

[long bloom]

it's good lore but also extremely biased

[eternal veldt]

Can't just slimegod be another boss or is it gonna stick to being queen slime?

[raven brook]

if its tier shifted then it wont be queen slime

i think thats kinda obvious

and is one of the main reasons the swap is even happening

[eternal veldt]

I see. That's good then

With calclone???

[raven brook]

Maybe, maybe not

Nothing confirmed yet but

Slime god getting tier shifted in some manner is very probable

[graceful warren]

I mean i wouldn't even mind changing the lore that queen slime is just a paladin that god slime left in the hollow

[raven brook]

Though the exact tier is unclear

[eternal veldt]

Hopefully not calclone

[raven brook]

Queen Slime's "lore" is incredibly irrelevant to the narrative as a whole you can very easily just change it the moment sg gets swapped

she dosnd't really contribute much in any meaningful way beyond hey look its the slime god

[graceful warren]

Still connecting queen slime with god slime in some sort of way makes sense

[eternal veldt]

Queen slime IS an optional boss anyway

[raven brook]

Her being a rogue paladin or something would make enough sense

[eternal veldt]

Besides i never even properly fight her

I just skip her in all my playthrough

[graceful warren]

Fair honestly like I said you can change the lore to just make it a paladin god slime created in the hollow. Since its lore isn't that important

[eternal veldt]

Imagine if they just reused the old superboss slime

LMAO

[raven brook]

what superboss slime

goozma?

[eternal veldt]

No

I forgot the name

[graceful warren]

It's better than the alternative. Your really telling me a god got stuck in its own paladin

[raven brook]

there wasnt any other besides that

astralgeldon never was a superboss

[zenith geode]

astrageldon slime?

[graceful warren]

Astrageldon

[raven brook]

it was just a shitty king slime clone with laser spam

[zenith geode]

the standard boss that was just aureus?

[raven brook]

catalyst's astralgeldon is like a entirely new made up boss that has absolutely no similarity to the actual original fight

because the original fight was utter doodoo shit ass,

[eternal veldt]

Yeah lmao

[raven brook]

like imagine aureus but worse

thats how low the bar is

[eternal veldt]

But i meant the concept

[zenith geode]

catalyst geldon has vague hints of maybe resembling astrageldon slime
-circular
-purple
-astral themed

[raven brook]

i dont think ther eneeds to be 3 whole ass astral bosses 😭

[zenith geode]

correct

[raven brook]

specially with hot the astral is already like probably the single least important biome ot the mod's worldbuilding and story right now

[zenith geode]

there needs to be 12

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[zenith geode]

11 of them being little deuses

[raven brook]

if any biome would get 3 bosses itd be like. the crags

[graceful warren]

The astral is just kinda there

[noble falcon]

They all have unique hats to make them easy to identify

[eternal veldt]

I did like it's rogue weapon that makes me feel like dio

[graceful warren]

Like everything about the Astral just doesn't really seem relevant to Calamity.

Its feels like its own thing

[eternal veldt]

Btw is there a way so i don't have to keep running from point A to the craigs. Like is there a pylon for that?

[raven brook]

the astral is in a very weird spot right now

[eternal veldt]

I wanna send the angler there

[raven brook]

its very disconnected from everything else yeah

[long bloom]

there is a crags pylon

[raven brook]

yeah there's a crags pylon

i think you can also just use a underworld pylon probably

[long bloom]

1.4.5

[graceful warren]

Just like as a new corruption theme astral is great.

[eternal veldt]

BAHHAHAH angler is gonna be visiting hell then

[long bloom]

(it doesn't need npcs nearby to function)

(just to be purchased)

[graceful warren]

Also speaking of infections. It's crazy that the only thing we have to show for the pleage virus is turtles and bees

[eternal veldt]

Doesn't matter im sending the brat to hell with his grandpa tax collector

[zenith geode]

slimes too

[eternal veldt]

You also get the plague if you let bringer kiss you enough times

[graceful warren]

Yeah but what im saying is you would think more things in the jungle would be corrupted by it

[eternal veldt]

Would also make sense since im p sure draedon only used those

[noble falcon]

Big bat also

And frogs
A bunch of things really

[eternal veldt]

Jungle would die since it's not really a corruption

[long bloom]

frogs aren't real

[graceful warren]

Actually lore wise i belive it can spread to other creatures

[eternal veldt]

It's draedon's funny little experiment

[noble falcon]

False
The only fake frog is the one you use to get the town slime
All others are real and accounted for

[robust osprey]

youre a frog

[long bloom]

nuh uh

[robust osprey]

ur green

frog is green

therefore

u frog

[eternal veldt]

Controlled spread probobly. Cuz if it just spreads randomly. The crusade would have to deal with angry plague weilding enemies

[stark flame]

Why are there so many types of slimes? How do they do that?

This creature commands nearly every domain

[long bloom]

they're really really good at absorbing

that's like

their whole thing

[stark flame]

[robust osprey]

theyre just very malleable ig

[stark flame]

What is the relationship between the God of Slimes and slimes?

Who has absorbed two Auric Souls?

[long bloom]

they can control slime as a material

[long bloom]

nobody that we know of

[split mortar]

Anyone who does that are about to have a whole lot of mental problems

[stark flame]

But someone has indeed absorbed two.

greedy

[long bloom]

we dunno

definitely possible but unconfirmed

[stark flame]

If the World Soul Shard hadn't been absorbed by the dragon, would it have been able to restore itself to its complete form?

[split mortar]

Unlikely
Not even world soul derived powers (rebirth) can heal someone from soul being destroyed so i do not see it being able to piece itself together when its soul is so much more complex and generally absurd

[stark flame]

Was the shattering of the World Soul caused by external factors or internal factors?

[light linden]

eh

[wanton pendant]

We don't know.

[light linden]

I still think someone who has would be dramatically less unstable if the souls were given instead of taken

[wanton pendant]

Here's the sum total of what we know about the World soul:
It existed.
It broke.
Dragons took it.

[stark flame]

Blame the author — he’s the one who shattered the World Soul.

[wanton pendant]

It's not about how you do it, it's the fact that you just grafted two more souls into you each time.

[light linden]

still not great

but not turbo unstable

also I wonder if the method of ascension would matter

[wanton pendant]

Goku.

[eternal veldt]

Is there an easier way to turn sand and hardened sand into their sunken sea variant???

[wanton pendant]

Strange lore question.

[eternal veldt]

Im trying to turn the desert back into Ilmaris

[eternal veldt]

Does the upper part of the sunken sea like the lower part?

[wanton pendant]

I don't think geographical regions have feelings.

[eternal veldt]

I thought it was like the normal ocean but so1eone told me it's actually just the dessert but with water

[eternal veldt]

Not what i meant 😭

[split mortar]

Antlions have infested the place so i doubt its the underground desert exactly but yeah its always been under the desert
We do not know what it looked like though so uh idk

[eternal veldt]

DEVS! GIVE ME BLUE SOLUTION AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!

[wanton pendant]

Good news.

[eternal veldt]

Im guessing desert houses were the old Ilmaris structures. So im guessing that it's literally just sunken sea. Sunken sea even looks just like the desert

[wanton pendant]

The desert people more likely.

[stark flame]

This is something Yharim should do.

[wanton pendant]

He did the literal opposite.

[eternal veldt]

Well terrarian was tasked to clean up after his shit. 🥀

[eternal veldt]

It's funny because i hate dragons as much as he hates gods 🥀

Wish i have screenshot of my chest inventory. Im gonna reach 9999 souls of flight soon

[dusk laurel]

fruitless endeavors

[split mortar]

Completely out of character for him to do so though

[stark flame]

Defeat him and force him to.👍

[wanton pendant]

He'd kill himself first.

[split mortar]

He would fight to the death

[stark flame]

[eternal veldt]

I will... im not changing every desert block into their sunken sea variant bruhh....

[eternal veldt]

Does the game has like the clentaminator solution for the sunken sea?

[wanton pendant]

No, don't believe so.

[eternal veldt]

DAMN IT

[west plume]

it just did dat

[split mortar]

No, saw someone suggest it in suggestions discussion a bit ago

[eternal veldt]

YOOO perfect!!!

[eternal veldt]

Here

Read this

[eternal veldt]

Hopefully it's taken into consideration

[pulsar ocean]

idk bro

[eternal veldt]

Also i already rebuilt sky island nation!!! Ill show screenshot when i successfully rebuilt all the other fallen countries.

[wanton pendant]

So you know what a tomadachi is?

[stark flame]

Maybe Amidias knows how to restore the Sunken Sea.

[wanton pendant]

He doesn't.

How could he possibly know.

That would be like if the Amazon burnt down and saying 'the President of Brazil can fix this'.

And, in this analogy, also most of Brazil's population is also dead.

[eternal veldt]

Keyword. Most >:D Best boy still has hope!!

[eternal veldt]

Also are the sky island people wiped out? Like nobody survived?

[wanton pendant]

It's been 850 years.

Anyone who was there is dead.

It's like asking if there are any Eastern Romans left.

[eternal veldt]

Yeah i meant like if there was atleast survivors. That managed to get a family

[wanton pendant]

Sure, like, I doubt the Moon Lord went and ate literally all of them one by one.

[eternal veldt]

Pretty sure italy still knows their roots

[wanton pendant]

But none of them would be around today aside from edge cases like I don't know, a god from the place (who to be fair would be dead by now most likely anyway).

[stark flame]

Draedon could probably do it, but he has no reason to help us.

[wanton pendant]

Oh yeah, he probably could.

[eternal veldt]

Ic ic. So rebuilding it wasn't a waste of time then 🙏

[stark flame]

Maybe we can make a deal with him.

[wanton pendant]

Regardless, any descendants of the Chrysonai would have long since assimilated into other nations.

[eternal veldt]

Well he's still "intrigued" about us. Maybe that will leverage it

[wanton pendant]

There's not much you can offer Draedon.

Besides combat data.

[stark flame]

[eternal veldt]

Welp we are a rare gem as he stated

[wanton pendant]

And even for Draedon 'rebuild an entire destroyed country' is a bit of a tall order.

[eternal veldt]

Yeah no i just want my damn solution

[eternal veldt]

Imagine if draedon has a version of the clentaminator that reaches the edge of the map lmao

[wanton pendant]

And that's putting aside the population being gone.

[wanton pendant]

I doubt even he could make something that grandiose.

[eternal veldt]

How many years have gon when calamitas did the funny torching?

[eternal veldt]

So it's still fairly recent. Im sure there are survivors.

Who wouldn't want to get their homeland back after all

[wanton pendant]

Survivors, yes.
But they're surely long gone.
And I doubt there's enough to populate a city.

Besides, 12 years is a long time.

Like, think about how much it would cost to uproot whatever life you have established to go back.

In real life, situations like that rarely just have everyone go back.

[eternal veldt]

True

But hey we can still hope

Sure alot of them would probobly prefer to stay where they are though

If they did managed to survive

[wanton pendant]

It takes an immense amount of time to regain such huge population losses without massive immigration.
And I don't think an underwater kingdom can do much immigration.

[stark flame]

Maybe it can only be done in the game.

[wanton pendant]

What?

[eternal veldt]

Well... it's a fantasy setting. who knows maybe there will be like a different aquatic sentient species.

[wanton pendant]

Oh sure.

[eternal veldt]

Severely limited though

Considering Ilmaris location is a bit awkward

[wanton pendant]

But you'd need ones that can survive in the specific environment of Ilmeris (which has been REALLY screwed up).
Meanwhile the Ilmerians can breathe air, so they can emigrate much more freely.
So it's far easier for people to leave than enter.

[eternal veldt]

Yep. Basically

[wanton pendant]

The best comparison I can think of is that the population of Ireland is lower than it was before the 1840s, when a massive famine hit.
What happened to Ilmeris reasonably killed a much higher percentage much faster than that.

[stark flame]

If Tyrian were still alive, could he restore the Sunken Sea？

[wanton pendant]

He has power over seas, not building cities.

The God of Civil Engineering might be able to pull it off, if he existed.

[eternal veldt]

Well either way even slim. There is still a chance to pull it off. Besides it would be really cool to visit amidias in the sunken sea visiting in his castle

[eternal veldt]

Unfortunately the terrarian or draedon is the only thing that comes to mind 😭

[wanton pendant]

I think it is worth nothing that as far as we're aware, Amidias is like, a guy.

[west plume]

i'm afraid that the basin is dry and hasn't filled back in after a bunch of rainwater has poured into it

[wanton pendant]

He's not like a god or something, or like an insanely strong wizard.
He got eaten by a big clam.

[west plume]

you'd need the Perfectly Ascended God of Civil Engineering to fix that

[thick slate]

daredevil could beat yharim if it was taking place in an alley

[eternal veldt]

His hearth is better than most atleast 😭

[wanton pendant]

Like, restoring Ilmeris is not a question of getting water into it, there's still water there.
It's the lack of buildings, government, infrastructure, food sources, population and so on.
Also the mutated monsters.

[stark flame]

Maybe the players are the God of Civil Engineering~

[eternal veldt]

Yeah the people are the true problem

[wanton pendant]

?

[wanton pendant]

If you were, Yharim would just yell slurs at you and not 'help' you.

[west plume]

there's also the fact that the ilmeris basin has been turned into glass and sand and basically all of it is impossible to actually achor a building into anymore. you'd need to building underground for any structural integrity and then slowly terraform the surface to become habitable and not immediately drain all of the water into the earth

[eternal veldt]

Buildings, food and materials. Im pretty sure terrarian can handle it. After all it's literally my project to restore it

[west plume]

then you have to reintroduce all of the animals that immediately went extinct as soon as calamitas turned the surface into slag

[wanton pendant]

'Calamity? I think I like that name.'
-Cal E. Mighty.

[eternal veldt]

All of this would be easy to fix if you gave us sunken sea clentaminator solution 🥀

[west plume]

that's for the sunk sea

not the surf sea

[wanton pendant]

That would just spread ruined Ilmeris biome.

[eternal veldt]

Ohhh right

[wanton pendant]

You want fixed Ilmeris biome.

[west plume]

do u want giant clams on the surface. r u silly

[stark flame]

Is there a god who rules over the domain of time?

[wanton pendant]

No, thank God.

[west plume]

i dont think so

no

[eternal veldt]

Would be hilarious

[wanton pendant]

No Space, Time or Gravity gods, for the sake of the balance.

[eternal veldt]

We already have sun god

[zenith geode]

time seems closer to a dragon thing and also like something that would be way higher than just a world soul shard

[eternal veldt]

We don't need more

[wanton pendant]

And couldn't the Time Dragon just go back in time to tell the other dragons to hit the gym?

[west plume]

i think if there was a time shard it would be self-eliminating because every time shard holder would just ensure they get it as soon as it breaks off the world soul

and the shard holder doesn't necessarily have to be a dragon

[zenith geode]

rewinding ml to make it a baby

[eternal veldt]

Is the sunken sea actually just below the surface???. I thought it was still below the desert

[west plume]

it is below the desert

it's sunk deep below da surface

[eternal veldt]

Calamitas just made it deeper ig

[coarse inlet]

Speaking of gods, when Xeroc consumed his auric soul, was there are malicious intent or was it just to save the domain of primordial light?

[west plume]

ilmeris was in a massive body of water on the surface with an underground aquifer that people could live in I Guess

[wanton pendant]

That's a mystery (probably not).

[eternal veldt]

How high do you think i should go for a reformed sunken sea biom? So i can plan my structures accordingly for the ilmaris kingdome

[west plume]

probably the bottom of the basin should be around 100-200 blocks lower than the surface of your desert

pre-immolation ilmeris would have more smoothly connected to it's aquifer

[eternal veldt]

Thanks!!!

[eternal veldt]

Wait can i get a visual representation of this?. Im having a hard time imagining it

MS paint stuff is fine 😭

[split mortar]

I doubt it because that would be fucking absurd to even let theoretically exist unless it had 73828473 restrictions

[raven brook]

o right

forgor

[wanton pendant]

Uh?

[split mortar]

Its left ambiguous but many people here believe it to not be malicious iirc

[eternal veldt]

OHHH ok so like just connect something like the desert pond thing or make my own to the sunken sea?

[west plume]

yes

[coarse inlet]

Would make sense. If im not mistaken, he was on good terms with the gods before those events. Unless hes just got insane levels of manipulation

[eternal veldt]

Ok that makes it easier to understand!! Thank you for the help!!!

[coarse inlet]

wait no the dragons mb

[wanton pendant]

No he wasn't.
Because they didn't exist.

[west plume]

the intent likely wasn't malicious and it was just to stop fovos from just taking zeratros' corpse and dipping with the soul of primordial light

[coarse inlet]

mb. Meant the dragons

[split mortar]

He was the monk of the dragon king so yeah p good relations

[eternal veldt]

Oh yeah. He called yharon an old friend too

[raven brook]

my name is xeroc

i made the sun

[eternal veldt]

Screw dragins though. It won't change my mind

[raven brook]

it was difficult to put the ritual together

unfortunately something went so wrong

and now i cant do anything but . fight this stupid. noxus. whatever

[eternal veldt]

Xeroc may like them but all dragons are evil and that's that!!!

[wanton pendant]

Five days at Xeroc's, that's where I want to be!

[dusk laurel]

if you want to hate on something be ethical and slander slime god

[split mortar]

Xeroc baked a pizza one time i think

[eternal veldt]

It's not a dragon so i don't really care

[stark flame]

Excluding other factors, does Auric Soul have an absorption limit?

[west plume]

it's important to note that people can just Take souls out of terraria and then they can't be retrieved again. if moon lord ate zeratros and just left then there's kinda nothing to really do about that. yharon would have preferred this somehow

[raven brook]

wdym by absorption limit

[eternal veldt]

Ig it could have prevented the genocide

[coarse inlet]

Five Day's at Xerocs: Scott Cawthons next rendition

[noble falcon]

Auric Soul defeated by the power of the Super Absorbent Sponge

[leaden bridge]

It's obvious that zeratros knew the ominous bell was tolling for him so he told xeroc about ascension so xeroc could protect the world from moonlord like things

Dude auric absorber

Let's go

[eternal veldt]

SUPER AURIC ABSORBANT SPONGE!!!!

[raven brook]

I can see him going . guhhh guhhh itd be better for zeratros to die than for his legacy to be tainted this manner and his power absorbed by the unworthy lesser beings and guhhh guhhhh now every dragon has died and this wouldnt have happened if xeroc didnt xeroc all over the place

[stark flame]

[eternal veldt]

If this exists then bottomless auric bucket certainly exists

[split mortar]

Theres not been a given “limit” to how many you can absorb
Its just that after absorbing like 3 souls you are not much better then a zombie mentally due to having basically 3 brains stitched onto your brain i think

[leaden bridge]

I do unironically want an absorber upgrade

[wanton pendant]

That thing is an absorption limit?

[noble falcon]

That would make a kickass final upgrade
Absorbs huge portions of liquid at once

[coarse inlet]

Super Absauric Sponge, coming to a calamity near you!

[noble falcon]

The abyss defeats it because abyss but other than that

[raven brook]

anyways time 2 shower

[zenith geode]

if you wanna know what happens when you have too many souls, take a look at polterghast

[split mortar]

We do not even know if zeratros was awake during that encounter

[raven brook]

googbye

[eternal veldt]

Just drain the abyss cuz screw the fishrons am i right XD

[leaden bridge]

Yeah but i figured it all out sorry. It's just true

[eternal veldt]

Also... what would happen if i just... drained the abyss....

[west plume]

the shard can be bound to up to two souls at once (so far). imperfect ascension has you just stack your own soul on top of the other one and suppress it until the day you die. perfect ascension has you delete the other soul and take it's place. you can technically ascend with a god soul if you can get it in the few seconds/minutes you have before it starts decaying into an essence due to instability but it's not a very good idea

[noble falcon]

Pours bottomless amounts of Auric Water that fries you on contact but doesn’t bounce you around
Make a big deep fryer

[leaden bridge]

Killing ravager should spawn the ravager biome

[eternal veldt]

Abyss creatures watching me reach the bottom with a coin and a lava bucket LMAO

[stark flame]

[split mortar]

Will do that in like uhhhhh 40 years prolly

[leaden bridge]

Will it i was under the impression a single soul is too little for that

[noble falcon]

The only enemies are the rock pillars and slimes with ravager ai

[eternal veldt]

It's always hilarious how i can just drain the abyss with money and some lava XD

[west plume]

a single soul probably won't do much since spreading isn't a default feature of essences

[eternal veldt]

Sentient rock pillars i may add

[west plume]

dogma, war and most of the gods that were put into the corruption/crimson were just exceptionally wicked and controlling so their essence reflects that

[split mortar]

The biome will be like 4 blocks big

[noble falcon]

Wait, actual idea
New town slime for beating ravager named Rocky, he’s covered in rocks and bounces around real slowly

[leaden bridge]

What if it's three

[split mortar]

I got hungry

[leaden bridge]

And it's like. One grass is blue, another red, and there's green in-between

[eternal veldt]

He also damages you even though he's friendly 🙏

[noble falcon]

But only slightly
He is small

[west plume]

toothpaste biome

[split mortar]

Agnus is coming out of the closet

[leaden bridge]

You disappoint me

[coarse inlet]

Would this be another god essense biome like the crimson by any chance? God of Hygiene?

[wanton pendant]

HE'S FROM SOUTH AFRICA!?

[eternal veldt]

Now im just thinking of the portal 2 box pet

[leaden bridge]

that has wayy to many colors

[eternal veldt]

It stabs you in the dark LMAO

[noble falcon]

New endgame brimstone town slime you get by having Calamitas do the super-upgrade thing on a slime staff

[leaden bridge]

There's literally a flag in existence that is exactly the thing i described

[west plume]

EVIL demon slime that HATES you

exhumed

[noble falcon]

No he’s chill, just like her
Another wacky roommate

[leaden bridge]

Vanities tarr

[wanton pendant]

A fictional flag for Mars, yes.

[eternal veldt]

When will i be able to have both frosty and flame batty just like slime prince and princess 🥀

[leaden bridge]

It's obvious that ravager is martian

And also papyrus gaster and sans

[eternal veldt]

Oh hey. This looks like my monitor when i sneeze a bit too hard

[wanton pendant]

See a doctor.

[noble falcon]

Ravager is being piloted by the elusive gold water strider like a ratatouille actually
The ritual failed terribly, the timing of it taking control of what was left was just coincidence

[leaden bridge]

Yeah I don't think sneezing should make you see pixels

[leaden bridge]

This is great

[wanton pendant]

Not even, the things that make up pixels.

[eternal veldt]

Wait the ravager isn't a large stone fort being run by dungeon mice?

[leaden bridge]

Golem 2

[noble falcon]

The mice are the employees keeping it running
The gold water strider is the commander

[west plume]

Upon being slain, Shadikou, the God of Emptiness, left behind an essance that was Darker than Dark. The land got Darker Yet Darker. A Skellington emerged from the center of the essence

[wanton pendant]

Very, very interesting.

[leaden bridge]

Why didn't shakidou just trap yharim in a dark world? Were they stupid?

[eternal veldt]

Whenever i read emptiness i get wotg flashbacks of solyn dying

[eternal veldt]

Ohhh those are some scary mice.

[leaden bridge]

Good. She'll keep dying

[pulsar ocean]

This is just like the 3 icecaps in undertale

[west plume]

Could Yharim defeat the Titan?

[eternal veldt]

🥀 not if my hero mod has something to say about it!!!

[zenith geode]

prolly

[pulsar ocean]

the titan seems to be a bum he lost to 3 teenagers and one old man

[noble falcon]

Depends if he’s capable of sealing darkness, that’s the main thing

[split mortar]

Titans can be beaten to death iirc so uh
Id imagine easily
At least the ch4 one

[leaden bridge]

On power alone theoretically yes. I don't think you'd need to shine light onto one as long as you're powerful enough

[eternal veldt]

Imagine if the yharim fight was just like PvP where he can dodge our homing projectiles. And also has healing pots LMAO

[zenith geode]

i feel like yharims armour glows so theres that

[west plume]

i guess it's a matter of if yharim's dark world form matches the power of his light world form

what does yharim think of himself as

[pulsar ocean]

i think you could kill a titan with raw strength before it can regenerate

[noble falcon]

You can’t just wear them down with attacks guys, they cover themselves with their impenetrable wings to regenerate

[wanton pendant]

If he gets low he builds a shelter and places a campfire and heart lantern.

[thick slate]

elden ring npc fight

[wanton pendant]

Yharim would just pull them apart.

[thick slate]

can yharim use the nurse?

[eternal veldt]

Probobly

He got the gold

[split mortar]

And yharim can cut a city in half i do not think that matters that the wings are pretty durable to magic teens

[pulsar ocean]

why would yharim need healing pots if they heal like 400 and he'd have like a million hp or something

[noble falcon]

Here’s what Yharim should do
Titan shows up
He opens his inventory
Pulls out a prismatic lacewing and smacks it
More than enough light

Easy wins

[pulsar ocean]

wrong reply

[thick slate]

yharim can do what now

[pulsar ocean]

yharim can cut a table in half

[zenith geode]

i dont think yharim would wear down the titan so much as annihilate it instantly

[eternal veldt]

Well it's like PvP LMAO he dodges our attacks like how we dodg bosses bullet hell

[west plume]

when did we get bleach powerscaling in calamity mod. since when did he do that

[pulsar ocean]

yharim pops bankai in the dark world

[eternal veldt]

He also becomes a vista lorde

[wanton pendant]

He did it when you weren't looking.

[split mortar]

Dev statement bulshittium moment

[west plume]

how people expect yharim to move against the titan

[thick slate]

image.png of triangle saying that yharim could eat a star

or smth

[zenith geode]

tbf the terrarian can drink stars

[coarse inlet]

I love how you just have this ready lol

[eternal veldt]

Well.... he could eat my entire supply of fallen stars...

[zenith geode]

so like

[shut kelp]

dradeon is tony stark

[wanton pendant]

Ok, but like, entire species eat those stars so it's not impressive.

[wanton pendant]

Tony Stark is human.

And has morals.

[zenith geode]

exactly

[wanton pendant]

So they're too different.

[shut kelp]

dradeon is iron man

[eternal veldt]

Yharim is basically ironman from his armors

[pulsar ocean]

terrarian can throw supernovas

[wanton pendant]

Not at all comparable.

[zenith geode]

ok but draedon cant do coke like tony can

[shut kelp]

makes sense, approved

[leaden bridge]

Calamity mod power scaling bottom text

[pulsar ocean]

yharim had to afk for 25 hours in hell to get true bankai

[zenith geode]

powerscaling is lame how would cal characters do as mafia bosses

[sacred pilot]

How would Calamity characters handle a 9-5 shift at McDonalds.

[eternal veldt]

Well to be fair brave goldfish are actually wall of flesh tier because they only apear in hardmode. 🥀

[shut kelp]

is dradeon and calamitas the only humanoid lore bosses

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas breaks down crying after a day of hearing how they need to extort single parents.

[coarse inlet]

Draedons just the robotic form of Mayuri Kurotsuchi

[pulsar ocean]

thats not fair draedon just wins this

[wanton pendant]

Same again, but due to having to do customer service.

[wanton pendant]

No. And Draedon isn't humanoid.

[split mortar]

Calclone, lunatic cultist, moonlord technically? Calamitas, yharim

[west plume]

probably pretty easily. calamitas would break down crying with the overnight shift because her general manager (draedon) keeps scheduling her to close alone and asking her to come in on her off days

[eternal veldt]

Draedon actually fixes the ice scream machine 🤯

[zenith geode]

ml is humanoid he's just got a funky head and his pelvis was chopped off

[shut kelp]

i keep messing up yharim and yharon thinking yharim is a dragon

[split mortar]

Lol

[zenith geode]

and hes really big

[scenic olive]

draedon is the ice cream machine

[shut kelp]

isnt calclone like a weird eye of ctulhulu

[pulsar ocean]

draedon would pay 1 dollar above minimum wage

[eternal veldt]

Ew...

[split mortar]

Outdated as hell design

[sacred pilot]

I thought that would be Astrum Aureus.

[shut kelp]

in the bossfight

[eternal veldt]

Im not buying Mcdonalds icecream anymore

[west plume]

yharim is the shift manager and asks all of his employees to clock out and then start mopping the floor before they leave

[wanton pendant]

She's not meant to be.

[scenic olive]

[zenith geode]

calclone is a perfect clone of calamitas and is a human

[eternal veldt]

Calclone got a cal clone inside the eye thing

[sacred pilot]

Yharim would deadass say that "this business is a family"

[leaden bridge]

Yharim kills every customer before they order

[zenith geode]

iirc the attempted explanation of the eye thing is like a life support system or smth

[shut kelp]

[shut kelp]

then why is she noob and calamitas pro

[wanton pendant]

It's just a mech she's inside, no mention of a life support system.

[wanton pendant]

She only has a fraction of her power.

[eternal veldt]

Imagine if we didn't kill her though. Like "hey calamitas. I found your sister" unfortunately she's too unstable

[wanton pendant]

Not like either makes sense.

[zenith geode]

because calamitas something something brimstone elemental

[split mortar]

Because scals power is not naturally hers

[west plume]

she doesn't have the infinite horror powers and deep seated childhood trauma

[shut kelp]

this guy knows a dangerous amount of lore

[split mortar]

Well yeah he helps maintain the lore document i would hope so

[wanton pendant]

I wonder why...

[pulsar ocean]

how did cal clone make servants if she has like only a smidge of cal's power

[eternal veldt]

Ahh i see. So the trauma was the powerup

Btw about her brothers...

[split mortar]

By having them be weaker

[shut kelp]

magik

[eternal veldt]

Why don't they move in?

[west plume]

they are pretty shitty servants

[leaden bridge]

They're dead

[sacred pilot]

Anyways since I saw the conversation about Yharim and Thragg earlier.

[split mortar]

The near mindless zombies that only remember protecting their sister?

[sacred pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-i-am-invincible-thragg-viltrumite-viltrum-empire-gif-4698577271704049137

fuck I forgot I don't have embed perms.

[west plume]

thragg instantly kills yharim any day of the weak. yharim would actually be in fear there

[pulsar ocean]

do the constructs have a new design or they're still eyes

[split mortar]

Thragg beats up the entire verse of calamity quickly

[west plume]

yharim doesn't survive against literally any viltrumite

[leaden bridge]

Thragg kills Yharim in 2 seconds no question lol

[sacred pilot]

Anyways imagine Yharim doing this.

[zenith geode]

calclone's constructs are like completely braindead except for "attack thing in front of me that isnt calclone" iirc

[wanton pendant]

If they survive they probably wouldn't be eyes.

[sacred pilot]

No I don't mean the powerscaling thing.

[shut kelp]

and i dont have any idea who that is.

[cosmic zenith]

.

[eternal veldt]

Yep. I need them so my NPCs doesn't get wiped when i need some sun fragments 😭

[wanton pendant]

The Grand Regent.

[sacred pilot]

I mean that one impact frame of Thragg no selling a punch to the head with his haircut.

[thick slate]

thragg slimes yharim in milliseconds bro

[west plume]

is this wrong

[sacred pilot]

Imagine that but with Yharim no-selling an attack.

[cosmic zenith]

It is entirely correct

[west plume]

thragg would literally rip that guy in half

[sacred pilot]

Yes. I know.

[cosmic zenith]

It's as if, to Yharim, Thragg was somehow

[sacred pilot]

Again I'm not talking about powerscaling.

[eternal veldt]

Hehe. Anyway give me sunken sea clentaminator solution. 🥀

[thick slate]

thragg has ripped viltrumites smooth in two

[pulsar ocean]

i think thragg might also annihilate xeroc

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[shut kelp]

well the yharim gifts us so he must be a good guy

[zenith geode]

while calamitas' catastrophe and cataclysm are sapient, again iirc

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-i-am-invincible-thragg-viltrumite-viltrum-empire-gif-4698577271704049137

[sacred pilot]

I mean that scene about Thragg blocking a punch that creates a cold asf impact frame.

[sacred pilot]

Yes exactly.

[west plume]

xeroc also stands literally no chance against thragg but he can probably run away faster

[pulsar ocean]

can Immortal beat yharim

[sacred pilot]

Imagine that but with Yharim.

[west plume]

i think yharim could probably make friends with conquest but he wouldn't beat him (or any other viltrumite) in a fight

[thick slate]

😭

[west plume]

lol

[shut kelp]

is yharim anonymus or does he have an look of its own

[sacred pilot]

No-selling an attack and there is like.

[leaden bridge]

Kid oliver is no diffing everyone man it's so over

[thick slate]

the thing is with invincible is that the writers dont know how to write strong characters

[west plume]

he's just ugly

[thick slate]

they always change strength

[leaden bridge]

Inmortal could probably beat yharim

[sacred pilot]

An impact frame and you get to see what's inside of his helmet.

[shut kelp]

works

[sacred pilot]

And you see him being hideously scarred.

[leaden bridge]

It's just he keeps going up against fucking viltrumites

[sacred pilot]

Burn marks all over.

[eternal veldt]

Bro got dipped into the forbidden hot sauce.

[shut kelp]

brimstone lava

[west plume]

i honestly think that immortal could beat yharim. i don't think immortal could beat yharon though

[thick slate]

true

[eternal veldt]

They just keep respawning over and over

[shut kelp]

definetly

[thick slate]

but like sometimes immortal is on par with omni man

sometimes he just isnt

[eternal veldt]

He's a fraud

[west plume]

yharon stands a chance against some of the weakest viltrumites At Best

but most of the pure blooded viltrumites literally just fly through yharon and he's back to egg mode

[eternal veldt]

Brit is literally just better immortal LMAO

[pulsar ocean]

cal's sun would probably be like a sauna levels of temperature for thragg

[sacred pilot]

Brit would.

[eternal veldt]

Brit is [titlecard]

[sacred pilot]

Well he wouldn't beat them but he would kill them via exhaustion.

[pulsar ocean]

atleast immortal doesnt take 10 years to respawn

[eternal veldt]

Pffft terrarian only takes 3 seconds. From gettung vaporised into nothing,

[west plume]

yharon literally just picks his head up and flies away and immortal can't respawn

[leaden bridge]

yeah but yharon has to win to do that

[zenith geode]

i think they meant under the mask

[west plume]

is there any reason to assume that yharon couldn't incapacitate immortal and rip off his head

[eternal veldt]

He's fighting fraudmortal so i think he has a chance

[shut kelp]

ok so hes basicly auric tesla armor

[leaden bridge]

Fraudmortal only looks like a fraud because viltrumites r insanw

[sacred pilot]

I still wish his cape was purple but still.

Blue works.

[shut kelp]

epic

[thick slate]

yharon dont know that

[shut kelp]

is he like 8ft wtf

[split mortar]

I want him to be buffer

[eternal veldt]

Bro lost to the twins btw

[thick slate]

yharon toasts his ass and flies off

[split mortar]

8-9 foot tall

[zenith geode]

eyah

[sacred pilot]

I like how the colors of Yharim contrast with his shape design.

Yharim's colors are meant to be heroic primary colors.

Gold, red and blue.

[zenith geode]

cal is normal sized for a human

[shut kelp]

he could play nba

[sacred pilot]

You can see that in most heroes in fiction.

[west plume]

i think calamitas also loses to immortal sadly

[zenith geode]

he could fucking dunk a 3 pointer

[sacred pilot]

Superman, red, blue and yellow. Spiderman, red and blue. Invincible, blue and yellow.

[shut kelp]

full court dunk

frfr

[split mortar]

Whats the heat resistance of stuff in invincible i think her fire might lowk fuck up people

[wanton pendant]

Let's not go too far.

[sacred pilot]

But Yharim's shape language is dominated by triangles and squares, giving him a very malevolent and evil feeling.

[wanton pendant]

So, if I recall ||extreme temperatures can even kill Viltrumites, but it's like, the actual sun level.||

[shut kelp]

calamitas is looks like a lil dood but shes not

[zenith geode]

doesnt her fire also do some real evil shit with memories or something

[wanton pendant]

It's bad for your mental health.

[shut kelp]

my english are died

[west plume]

immortal slimes her out by flying at her directly through the flame blast

[leaden bridge]

Idrtso. It conveys he's powerful for sure but I don't think the design alone would make it 100% concrete he's a bad guy

[split mortar]

Cause the slightly more dangerous brimstone magma of azafure is uh
Not crazy far from the suns surface iirc (bestiary mantis shrimp moment) and calamitas should be able to blow that out the park

[eternal veldt]

Unfortunately primordial light is nowhere near sun level 🙏 unnamed viltrumite from S3 solos

[sacred pilot]

I personally think it makes him look pretty evil.

[eternal veldt]

I'd know he's a bad guy by simply asking him if he likes dragons.

[west plume]

literally every viltrumite sweeps all of calamity mod

Battle Beast sweeps all of calamity mod

[sacred pilot]

The horns on his helmet have a sort of "demonic" feel.

[leaden bridge]

Maybe his previous, more angular designs like the one used here. But the modern one could very easily pass for an armored knight guy

[wanton pendant]

Battle Beast wouldn't fight unworthy opponents.
So DoG is safe.

[eternal veldt]

Except for the brave goldfish. I think it can goe toe to toe with thragg

[west plume]

likely

[sacred pilot]

Alongside his boots, which are pretty sharp, kinda like talons.

[zenith geode]

oh yeah how can yharim see out of that mask

[eternal veldt]

Why are we even comparing an oversized armored bait to battle beast?

[west plume]

wires going into his optic nerve

:p

[zenith geode]

that sounds

[wanton pendant]

Imagine Monsoon.

[zenith geode]

painfu

l

[west plume]

sucks to be an old man

[sacred pilot]

He's basically Darth Vader.

Though I thought it was like.

[split mortar]

Headcanon territory

[eternal veldt]

Without the force

[sacred pilot]

Mini cameras.

[west plume]

how yharim sees out of the mask is headcanon tho

i like to think that he had a more traditional knight mask at the start of the crusade and then later into it he got the new mask after getting his cybernetic enhancements from draedon

[sacred pilot]

Honestly it depends on your headcanon for how Yharim looks under the helmet.

[eternal veldt]

Nah nahh nahh yharim just have advanced observation haki like fujitora

[west plume]

and the mask just wires directly into his optic nerve through a port on the side of his burned head

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-gif-11867225918094001223

[sacred pilot]

If you go with "Darth Vader looking ass" then yeah optic nerves going through his skull makes sense.

If you go with "Relatively normal with some bad scars" then ig cameras.

[eternal veldt]

Sooo the armor is literally his body like a skin.. got it

[wanton pendant]

The duality of Yharim is Darth Vader or Ganondorf. (Also white Ganondorf, but close enough.)

[thick slate]

yharim is NOT white

[sacred pilot]

I like to imagine Yharim sounds like Scorpion from MK9/MKX.

[split mortar]

Yharim i think is uh
Old

[sacred pilot]

Yharim is anything but white.

[split mortar]

Werent he from fantasy brazil idr

[sacred pilot]

I think so.

[eternal veldt]

After getting dipped into extra hot sauce im sure nobody would remain white

[split mortar]

So yeah i doubt he white

[wanton pendant]

This just in, Brazil is not white, but in fact Brazil.

[west plume]

yharim was never white

[sacred pilot]

Love how most people unanimously agreed that Yharim is at least a lil' tan lmao.

[wanton pendant]

The lava'd do that.

[eternal veldt]

He got roasted

[west plume]

he had beautiful golden brown skin even before the toasting

i think even in like early concept art from like 2018 by lilac

[shut kelp]

with his eyes

[wanton pendant]

I didn't think we had Yharim showing skin art.

[eternal veldt]

Cool. Is he extra brown now? I don't want my yharim to be overcooked

[agile matrix]

the moment the lore artists draw pre and post scorch yharim unmasked is the day the world ends i think

[shut kelp]

deep fried yharim

is what i understood

[wanton pendant]

They won't, it will always be... a mystery.

[split mortar]

Yharim hop on tmod gif

[eternal veldt]

It's literally the conversation

[west plume]

it's been like 100 years since the burning so i think he'd probably be some really unnatural shade of greyish tan right now

[shut kelp]

Calamity mod 3 when

[west plume]

combination of extremely old man and severe skin burns

[agile matrix]

wouldnt most of his uuuuh

melanin? get burned out

[eternal veldt]

Damn. My yharim was served cold 🥀 is it still possible to reheat him?

[agile matrix]

so he'd be very pale or pink

[wanton pendant]

So like if Calamitas had a vitamin D deficiency?

[west plume]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yharim has horns is he azafurian

[sacred pilot]

I do like to imagine he gets like.