lore-discussion

[keen aurora]

🐎

[hasty folio]

oh april fools ok thanks for letting me know

[grave maple]

hors

[timber glacier]

e

[graceful warren]

Horse

[vapid jungle]

No it’s always been like this wym

[scenic olive]

horselamity

[untold oracle]

Horse

[split mortar]

What the horse

[vapid jungle]

Petah

[lunar prawn]

horsey

[fervent delta]

🐎

[split mortar]

Horse

[wanton pendant]

This is horse lore channel, so we need to get back on topic; Genghis Khan.

[long bloom]

guys what does yhorse taste like

[wanton pendant]

I don't know I'm not Hungarian.

[feral skiff]

Is Yharim & Calamitas & Devourer of Gods & Yharon & Plaguebringer & Xeroc & Terrarian & Silva & Ravager & Noxus Actually just Horses?

[wanton pendant]

The Devs don't want you to know this, but yes.

[weary viper]

is this fables 😭

[wanton pendant]

No, it's horse.

[split mortar]

What???

[long bloom]

drooling feral hog

[weary viper]

like is this from cal fables

[split mortar]

Its project moon stuff with the horrible hog and the pigs heads photoshoped on it

[wanton pendant]

No, it's from this mod, that being horse mod.

[split mortar]

Its not even terraria

[long bloom]

the bell has rung

[wheat walrus]

whay the fuck

[weary viper]

oh lol

[wanton pendant]

This is the horse mod Discord, we're gonna talk about horse.

[split mortar]

How was fables the first thought when you saw that

[dusk laurel]

What...

[weary viper]

i haven't touched anything terraria related in 3 years i have no way to know what content is from where

and rhe artstyle kinda looks like modded terraria

[split mortar]

It aint even pixelated????

Apart from the pig heads

[weary viper]

imtalking about the pig heads

[long bloom]

gonna blow your mind here

base calamity is also modded terraria

[wanton pendant]

You chose a horse time to come home to Horserim.

[weary viper]

oh shit this is lore discussion

[split mortar]

Oh
Those are yet to be added cal things

[split mortar]

Yes

[long bloom]

no it's horse

[robust osprey]

I found lore discussion horse10

[wanton pendant]

We discuss horse lore. From their domestication in Central Asia to modern day use.

[robust osprey]

wwg how do horses affect the united states government

[wanton pendant]

1. The French brought everything but the horse.

[dusk laurel]

this implies they brought you

[robust osprey]

waterfrenchgaming

[wanton pendant]

2. Horses had to be sourced locally.

[scenic olive]

damn horses

[austere egret]

🐎 🐎

[violet spoke]

i fall down the horseback with my crippled legs and then it starts to rain

[austere egret]

🥀

not horse enough..

[icy veldt]

Hot take: ||esroh||

[austere egret]

hmm...

[pastel bay]

Lore chat? Horse lore?

Lorse?

[austere egret]

decently hot

[flat grove]

horse

[peak flicker]

Horse!

[austere egret]

*neigh*

[tacit wren]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-alert-alert-horse-horse-alert-gif-10675569724654458517

[austere egret]

⚠️ 🐴 ⚠️

[brazen tangle]

whats the horse lore

[austere egret]

a horse was horsing around

[twilit cobalt]

horse

[plucky lichen]

Thank god I found horse lore

[hasty crater]

🐎

[split mortar]

RatguyLainey

[wicked plover]

horse

[loud oak]

Horse

[broken kayak]

When horse

[plucky lichen]

HorseguyLainey

[robust osprey]

HORSEHORSEHORSEHORSEHORSE

[timber glacier]

Esroh

[marsh pollen]

which mod is this guy from

[wanton pendant]

Calamity.

[marsh pollen]

regular calamity?

or the overhaul

[dusk laurel]

Calamity Community Remix

[marsh pollen]

ok

[timber glacier]

Also they’re in calamity’s vanities only on april first

[marsh pollen]

can i disable it? i need to make a video and it wont stop talking

[timber glacier]

I’m pretty sure if you set your computer’s clock to another date it would definitely work but could cause other issues

[wanton pendant]

Also, if you're using Calamity Overhaul remove it.

[timber glacier]

True

[marsh pollen]

what do you mean by remove it?

[wanton pendant]

Extremely low quality.

And we do not need more videos showing it to trick people into downloading it.

[long bloom]

uninstall

[marsh pollen]

🙁

[wanton pendant]

Why the sad face?

This is a good thing.

If you really want a cheat mod, there are better versions.

[marsh pollen]

i need to make a video but it wont stop talking

[deft vessel]

Honse

[wanton pendant]

Certainly remove Overhaul if you're making a video.
Also remove it in general, but doubly so for videos.

[timber glacier]

What if someone made calamity overhorse which overhauled calamity to now have horses

Also turn the earth elemental back into a horser

[hasty crater]

overhaused

[dawn dawn]

Its not umazing, vro

[timber glacier]

Not horsetacular broski

[hasty crater]

horseski

[harsh gulch]

so uh horse lore

once there was a magnificent horse

then an evil one

and the uh

evil one lost

[hasty crater]

horsemazing

[timber glacier]

Horses of malice and horses of joy

[zealous bridge]

what the horsehell

[timber glacier]

Horseland

Every thing will be consumed by the horse

All came from horse

All will retunr

[hasty crater]

say amen to the Horse

[harsh gulch]

return to horse

[timber glacier]

🙏 amen🐴

[harsh gulch]

amen 🐎

[brazen citrus]

we just be horsing around fr 🐎

[strong plover]

how to install horse mod in terraria

🐴

[spring helm]

horse lore

[timber glacier]

Lorse

[prime basin]

Horse

[woeful karma]

HORSE???

[light moth]

Horse

[unborn viper]

horse

[rough star]

horse

[ashen gulch]

Horse

[olive vault]

the horses are stronger than the dragons?

The dragons have auric souls

The horses have equine souls?

[split mortar]

Yes

[hardy yew]

horse lore

horse lore

[thick slate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse

[hardy yew]

woah, fascinating.

[cosmic minnow]

Horse

[full bay]

How perfect

[thick slate]

horse

[dusk laurel]

my dumbass thought this was one of the graphs iban draws up for boss attack concepts

[ornate shadow]

Wait would Yharon just be Rapidash

[west plume]

nuh uh. yharon stays as ho-oh

calamitas is a rapidash though

yharim is a keldeo

[south karma]

0.00000001% of Horse vs yharim

[ornate shadow]

Since when could bro fly

Ok wait no why did I

Read that as Yharim

Kms

I’m tired

AUGH

[scenic olive]

horsefly

yharhorse

yhorse

[ornate shadow]

Wait why would be be water/fighting

[wide siren]

Do we have any horse lore

I want to know more about horse

[honest obsidian]

obligatory yahiamice reference

this is all i have tho

apparently he can summon horses

but only if there's a nearby door

[long bloom]

doorse

[light moth]

Well, cnidron definitely destroys Xeroc so you can guess for yourself xd

[wide siren]

Why specifically near a door

[honest obsidian]

the horse has to walk in

[alpine cedar]

horse lore drop

thats deep

[true sinew]

supreme horse halamitas

[scenic olive]

Halamitas Exhorsed weapons are now canon

[true sinew]

The Horseasama may be swung once the Devourer of Horses is slain.

[olive vault]

DRAEDON REBUILDING EXO MECHS AS

THE EXO HORSE

[dark sapphire]

Horse lore

[robust osprey]

draedon ccannot even dream of replicating the powers of horse

[true sinew]

HORSEOTOS, HORSEMIS, HORSEOLLO, HORSERES

[devout stratus]

zebra terrorist groups want to takeover the horse mod

the zebras should not walk in

[scenic olive]

Heroc

[compact ridge]

Sepulchorse is the only way to is the only way to try and reconstruct that power

[spice notch]

horse mod?

[raven brook]

yea

h

[gloomy oriole]

secret horse!!! horse!! Hay look!!! horse new horse!!! he can run, jump over barriers and be respectful!! ho!

[left delta]

Neigh

[jagged mulch]

horse mod!

whats the minecraft update for today

[wanton pendant]

Horse.

[jagged mulch]

neat

so is this the long awaited cross over with Umas?

calamatias uma?

[strange path]

horse lore??

i love the honse 🐴

[agile matrix]

lorse

[ashen crane]

Brain of horse

Horselord

Horse096

Horse prime

Exohorses

I'm not sure but I think that they have one common origin in lore

What do you say?

[wanton pendant]

They're all gay, of course.

[glossy bridge]

Do you guys think the Horsken Sea is filled with Horse-like creatures?

[wary igloo]

Horse

[hoary sedge]

This is a horse

[robust osprey]

hello.

[wary igloo]

Dear god...

[marble elm]

Amidias is like a seahorse i think

This hints at sunken sea overhaul being a horse update

[crystal pendant]

Wow i love yuri… woah did you see that intimidating horse run by?

[marble elm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-meme-goofy-goofy-ahh-brainrot-gif-5508898588807313449

FUUUUCK

Embed fail

[crystal pendant]

Rip bozo

[marble elm]

Why is it called goofy goofy ahh brainrot gif its just a horse walking

[chilly steeple]

The link is not horsing

[crystal pendant]

Quit horsing around

[full bay]

Caballos mecanicos

[ancient marsh]

Hoers

Hores

🐴

[chilly steeple]

La caballo suprema

Este es un mensaje de mi caballo

[full bay]

Caballodusa

Leviaballo

Yharon el caballo

[chilly steeple]

Los dioses caballo

[olive vault]

THIS IS MY MESSAGE TOOO MY HORRSEEE

[ivory shoal]

THIS IS A RACE YOU CANNOT WIN

[worldly spindle]

A message to my uma

[ivory shoal]

I THINK IM PAST ALL MY LEG FRACTURES

VICTORY STIRS BELOW YOUR HOOVES

[worldly spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[robust osprey]

why lore discussion started talking spanish

[worldly spindle]

Oh I didn’t see that

Yeah keep it english only pleaae

[chilly steeple]

Dont speak horse?

Don't horsing

[worldly spindle]

I mean

[wispy ice]

Quit horsing around, everyone

[worldly spindle]

We may partake in neighing

[topaz relic]

Honse

[robust osprey]

neeigh

[cedar crow]

I know you’re all having a horsey time of your life in honor of April fools, but I need a question answered that I refuse to let it be ignored:
Why did Anahita dissolve into paradise when she absorbed Goozma’s Auric Soul? I know Xeroc survived it when he absorbed that dragon’s soul.

[wanton pendant]

What.

[cedar crow]

I put another video in the now temporarily named #general-media showing that scene.

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, I'm not watching half an hour fanfic right now.

[cedar crow]

Well, it’s your life & choice!

[wanton pendant]

If you want a serious answer, Goozma isn't a Calamity character and Anahita never did that.

[untold oracle]

Whats the horse lore

[wanton pendant]

They were domesticated in Central Asia.

[ashen crane]

Plz don't push the horses

[untold forge]

I was so fucking confused 😂

[sleek hedge]

🐴

[dusk void]

To someone as sick as I am, the Horse Mod Discord is simply the Mod Discord.

Really gives you a peek into how horse I've become

[gentle jasper]

🐴 🏇

[umbral cobalt]

What's the lore behind Yharimhorse?

[wanton pendant]

On that faithful day, the great Godseeker found himself in need of a steed, a steed that could face the divine hordes and remain stalwart.

[glossy bridge]

Fun fact: Draedon made the H0-RS3 Mount Rider, but after multiple failures he threw it in the Draedon Labs Horse Decimator

[dire helm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-fast-sped-up-gif-14118322218505913859

[split mortar]

The melon has been found.

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

Yeah

[wanton pendant]

What.

[leaden bridge]

earth horse

[abstract gyro]

does yharim support horse

[dusk laurel]

unironically fire

[hollow pivot]

Yharim is anti-horse.

[quartz smelt]

Yharim and yharon started their crusade against the horses

[hollow pivot]

Here's my evidence.

[left rivet]

Yharim L

[slender marten]

common yharon L

[strong locust]

Yaah reem L

[abstract gyro]

yeah as expected, he can't catch a single W

[pastel bay]

Yharim more like

Uh...

Lharim

Oo

Gottem

[plucky juniper]

he dislikes horses because dragons exist and you can ride on them

[wheat meadow]

This is so sad

Is Calamitas pro-horse at least

[hollow pivot]

Do you remember what she did to Cnidrion?

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas is obviously a horse girl.

[wheat meadow]

Gulp,,,

[wheat meadow]

I like this thought actually

[hollow pivot]

That Seahorse is edible with how much it got cooked.

[wheat meadow]

Wait didn't the bestiary say the Cnidrions were fine from the Incineration though

Or at least like
Weren't completely obliterated by it

[hollow pivot]

They can be cooked and not die.

[wheat meadow]

Ahhh

[wanton pendant]

'Once trained to be the steeds of honored Ilmerian warriors, cnidrions survived the Incineration due to their sheer might. They continue to defend what was once the heart of the sea kingdom from intruders, maintaining a fierce loyalty to their masters even after they have passed on.'

[wheat meadow]

So I guess that's why they look more charred

I think
I haven't played in so long actually

[plucky juniper]

i mean the old sprite is OLD

[long bloom]

> so beefy they tanked calamitas
> get onetapped by any hardmode weapon

[hollow pivot]

They got lung cancer and have been dying for the last 10 years.

[wanton pendant]

You try tanking after getting your skin melted off.

[wheat meadow]

Man I really gotta start playing this again 💔

[hollow pivot]

That Cnidrion sprite is 7-8 years old 😭

[amber kite]

says you with the sweetie fox pfp

[timber glacier]

They should add Calamity to Horse Mod

[left rivet]

Older than my cat

[spiral torrent]

Horse

[timber glacier]

May the horse be with you

[spiral torrent]

🐴

[robust osprey]

Hello.

[timber glacier]

Man I’m so hundry

[robust osprey]

How hungry?

[sinful quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-sweep-horse-sweep-meme-ireetable-gif-961325981075501850

[ashen crane]

Any problemz with dat?

[abstract gyro]

why krizhovnik if I may ask

[autumn orbit]

hold your horses

[charred tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wtf-horse-running-l9mASFqtemeKk

[left rivet]

Hello

[hoary cape]

what is the lore reason honse isn't in the mod

[spare pier]

TOO POW3RFUL

[timber glacier]

Which my little pony character is yharim’s favourite?

[spare pier]

4PPL3J4CK B3C4US3 SH3S MY F4VOR1T3 TOO

[split mortar]

Damn, sharing qualities with yharim. Sucks to suck.

[spare pier]

FUCK YOU

🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

[split mortar]

:p

[timber glacier]

Are dinosaurs cannon to calamity?

[split mortar]

Isn’t there an item that spawns a dinosaur pet.

[hoary cape]

two technically

[timber glacier]

But like are they cannon or not and also if they are are they related to dragons

[hoary cape]

one turns you into a dino

[split mortar]

They are vanilla items that are not blatant references afaik so no reason to presume they are not canon.

We dunno if they are related to dragons

[timber glacier]

but like where would they fit in the timeline tho

[split mortar]

Happened long enough time ago that dinosaurs do not matter to the plot?

[spare pier]

1DK BRO TH3YR3 JUST 4N1M4LS

D1NOSS4URS COULD B3 W4LK1NG 1N T3RR4R14 R1GHT NOW FOR 4LL 1 C4R3

[split mortar]

And that yeah, dinosaurs would not be that extreme when super magic dragons roamed only a few centuries ago.

[agile matrix]

arent they literally

acid t2

[leaden bridge]

Personally i think it would be dragon of horses and goddess of running

[agile matrix]

theres like. literal fossils

[split mortar]

Ain’t that radiation bringing out dinosaur genes or something.

[timber glacier]

Oh yeah I forgor about that

[grim harness]

roar of the jungle horse

[timber glacier]

But like those aren’t dinosaurs cos they arent reptiles mostly right

[leaden bridge]

I don't think horses would be very suitable to living in jungles

[spare pier]

TH3R3 4R3 FOSS1LS OF 4 BUNCH OF SH1T TH4T ST1LL 3X1STS 1RL

[agile matrix]

yea but not like moving

trilobites fuckin leap at you

[leaden bridge]

You don't know that

Maybe we've yet to find the leaping horse

Fossil

[spare pier]

WH4T

[agile matrix]

i cant really name any coelecanth-likes in calamity

[wanton pendant]

Primordial Wyrm is old.

[leaden bridge]

I don't see how that's relevant

[wanton pendant]

Like for more Calamitous facts.

[leaden bridge]

Like it must be assumed the game does very much not feature every creature

[timber glacier]

also how does the astral chest exist if the astral infection is a new thing in calamity when hardmode hits right?

[long bloom]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[split mortar]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[leaden bridge]

Especially because terraria features no mammals

[leaden bridge]

Horses did it

[timber glacier]

Bunny?

[agile matrix]

Fabsol did it

[spare pier]

FUCK YOU TH4TS WHY

[timber glacier]

Oh no

[long bloom]

squirrel

[leaden bridge]

Bunnies are an exception

And squirrels

But also they're not mammals

[agile matrix]

humans

[long bloom]

rimehound

[wanton pendant]

Astral Chest is a myth, an illusion, propaganda from the divine to lead us away from Yharim.

[agile matrix]

the big snow dog from the snow biome

wolves

[timber glacier]

Aren’t Orcas mammals like dolphins

[leaden bridge]

Rimehound isn't Terraria

[agile matrix]

wolves

[leaden bridge]

Wolves aren't real

[agile matrix]

okay bro

[leaden bridge]

Genuinely a fake vanilla enemy

[wanton pendant]

Cows.

[split mortar]

Neither are you.

[agile matrix]

piggy

[leaden bridge]

.

[agile matrix]

Humans

Zombies, legally

[leaden bridge]

You guys are just going in circles now

[split mortar]

Rotdogs idk

[leaden bridge]

anyways you should know squirrels are Fargos and bunnies are pure beings born out of thin air

[agile matrix]

wolves

[long bloom]

hard not to when literally everything is an exception apparently

[wanton pendant]

Dwarves.

[agile matrix]

you have not explained them feasibly

[wanton pendant]

Goblins.

[agile matrix]

humans, dwarves, goblins

martians maybe

[split mortar]

The skeletons in my bones.

[wanton pendant]

Stop copying me, nerd.

[leaden bridge]

Martians aren't mammals

[agile matrix]

dead people

[long bloom]

orcas are mammals

[timber glacier]

Dolphins are also mammals

[agile matrix]

how do you know

[leaden bridge]

Also i was obviously not talking about the player character

[agile matrix]

there are npcs in the game that are Humans

[timber glacier]

Lepus

[split mortar]

They are from different planet and so prob don’t fit literally any classifications of life on terraria

[long bloom]

just admit you're wrong bruh 😭

[agile matrix]

they can still be mammalian

[wanton pendant]

The Milk Man.

[timber glacier]

Deerclops would also be a mammal too right?

[split mortar]

Neko could be ragebaiting you all

[split mortar]

Not canon

[timber glacier]

Oh yeah

[agile matrix]

produces milk for their young,
has hair or fur,
is being warm-blooded.

[leaden bridge]

I was making a generalist statement about the fact terraria features not very many standard animals it's you people who r hooked on my technical errors

[spare pier]

M4RT14NS 4R3 M4MM4LS FUCK YOU

[agile matrix]

martians i think fail at the hair part but it might be really hard to see

or their young have a lotta hair

[leaden bridge]

wow okay word of god everybody martians have boobs

[long bloom]

you said "there are no mammals in terraria"

[wanton pendant]

It's not a technical error, it's you being wrong.

[timber glacier]

Would the dukes be mammal cos they pigs?

[leaden bridge]

u guys get mad about these things

[timber glacier]

Or like at least pigrons

[leaden bridge]

Dukes aren't in any classification

[wanton pendant]

Yes, you do get mad.

[split mortar]

Damn they related to terraria life.
Or terraria life started out not on terraria… much to consider.

[agile matrix]

you said this

[spare pier]

WH4T

[leaden bridge]

keep going it entertains me

[agile matrix]

uhuh

[split mortar]

Idk

[timber glacier]

Giant clam is also a mammal trust me

[spare pier]

TH4TS TRU3

[leaden bridge]

To be fair I'd wager it's pretty weird that martians happened to evolve into mammals completely separated from humans doing it

[wanton pendant]

Nymphs are probably mammals.

[spare pier]

G14NT CL4M 1S 4 M4MM4L

[leaden bridge]

Those conclusions are weird but they're not Far-fetched

[agile matrix]

giant clam is not a mammal it lacks milk

[split mortar]

Proof?

[leaden bridge]

that's what you think

[wanton pendant]

Bats, bats are mammals.

[agile matrix]

also they're cold blooded

[wanton pendant]

Did you milk that clam?

[leaden bridge]

that's what you think

[agile matrix]

uhuh

[split mortar]

Proof the giant clam is?

[agile matrix]

all clams are, why would this specific one not be

[eager bluff]

proof that the giant clam has blood?

[wanton pendant]

Unicorns are mammals.

[long bloom]

magic

[wanton pendant]

Terraria has a lot of mammals.

[split mortar]

Proof the giant clam is a clam?

[leaden bridge]

If martians are mammals do they just have little hair or is their hair the green/grey thing we see. Discuss

[wanton pendant]

It's actually a seahorse.

[agile matrix]

their young have a lot of hair

end disccus

[split mortar]

Wheres the distortion elementals

[eager bluff]

they're constantly covered in a 5 o'clock shadow

thats why they're so gray

[leaden bridge]

Thanks for your contribution

[long bloom]

!wiki cosmic elemental

[pliant island]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Cosmic_Elemental

[spare pier]

TH3Y H4V3 ON3 STR4ND OF H41R 4T TH3 TOP OF TH31R H34D L1K3 4 TODDL3R TH4TS TOO TH1NK TO S33 1NG4M3

[long bloom]

they just misspelled cosmilite

[leaden bridge]

i see

[split mortar]

That fucker does not exist

[timber glacier]

Skeleton merchant is a mammal

[eager bluff]

yeah not since i saw it

[wanton pendant]

Is Yharim a mammal, I say no, as he likely had all his hair follicles burned off.

[robust osprey]

That is what they want you to think.

[leaden bridge]

He could be a skeleton for a yet to be revealed non mammal humanoid

We don't know this

[timber glacier]

But when shimmered he beicomes a zombie

And has hair

[long bloom]

it's simply in the distortion

[leaden bridge]

You make a good point

[timber glacier]

Also sells infinite milk in calamity and thus must make it

[split mortar]

It’s not, I checked.

[eager bluff]

yeah but we dont know if zombies are human i think

[leaden bridge]

Are shimmer alts canon

[split mortar]

Shimmer is gay so yeah prob

[long bloom]

source?

[timber glacier]

I’d assume so because

It doesn’t really break anything

[split mortar]

Nilla

[eager bluff]

my source is that i went there and looked and it wasnt

[timber glacier]

Except like maybe the really out there ones like the angler

[eager bluff]

independent research

[wanton pendant]

Is the Devourer of Gods a mammal?

[split mortar]

Mollusk

[timber glacier]

No hes a fish

[eager bluff]

i believe devourer of gods would be an insect

[long bloom]

frog

[eager bluff]

it has really fucked up compound eyes

[long bloom]

really really fucked up frog

[wanton pendant]

Is Noxus a mammal?

[agile matrix]

dog is a crazy straw

[split mortar]

Fungus

[agile matrix]

noxus is a green slime

[leaden bridge]

it implies really awkward things about the nature of shimmer transmutation i am not comfortable imagining are canon

[long bloom]

toad

[eager bluff]

i believe noxus is a comically large cartoon mouth

[spare pier]

HUH?

[eager bluff]

so

if that counts

[split mortar]

Might be shimmer related??

[long bloom]

[timber glacier]

Is the baby grinch pet a mamma;

[wanton pendant]

I mean it does straight up kill the Pirate.

[timber glacier]

Yes we learnt this earlier

[long bloom]

was confirmed to be shimmer

[split mortar]

O ok

[leaden bridge]

outside of silly things like kappa angler im just not sure what to think about the idea you can dump yourself in shimmer and come out of it an entirely different person physically

it also does kill the pirate

[wanton pendant]

Pirate fails the vibe check.

[timber glacier]

Shimmers just weird like that

[spare pier]

TH4TS JUST M4G1C PL4ST1C SURG3RY

[timber glacier]

How does it turn some metal intl others

[split mortar]

Genderchange potion exists and is much less magic fuckery and on smaller scale then the shimmer

[wanton pendant]

Pirate is DEAD!

[leaden bridge]

it just does that i dont carea botu the meta

okay but thats just like

[timber glacier]

I wish I could jump into shimmer and look differenrt

[leaden bridge]

thats just giving you Instant Hormones and Voice Training

its not You're dead or A goblin now

[timber glacier]

Or a kappa

[leaden bridge]

is the mechanic shimmer alt goblin face

[split mortar]

Killing you seems rather normal for dumping yourself into the super magic mystery fluid

[timber glacier]

Or now only has one eye like the truffle (as seen in their portrait)

Or now a furry (the golfer)

[spare pier]

TH4TS ST1LL JUST SUP3R ST4ND4RD M4G1C 1N 4 SH1TLO4D OF S3TT1NGA

[eager bluff]

shimmer is mephistophiles's engine from limbus

[wanton pendant]

The term is 'green-face' and it is a big problem.

[timber glacier]

Shimmer doesn’t care for your lore and logic

[leaden bridge]

okay but does it count

[timber glacier]

It just be silly

[wanton pendant]

The real concerning one is just the Pirate, everything else is pretty easily justified. Except maybe Mechanic.

[timber glacier]

How does it decraft stuff? Magic

How does it transmute stuff? Magic

[spare pier]

1 DONT UND3RST4ND WH4TS 3V3N TH3 PROBL3M TH4TS L1T3R4LLY JUST 4N 4PP34R4NC3 CH4NG3 4ND TH4TS ON3 OF TH3 MOST B4S1C M4G1C TYP3S OF 4LL T1M3

[leaden bridge]

pirate implies shimmer can revive ghosts if the process is reversible which it is

[spare pier]

N4RUTO H4S TH4T FOR FUCKS S4K3

[timber glacier]

Also I feel like Shimmer is lacking more enemy transmutations other than just slimes -> shimmer slimes and zombies <->skeletons

[eager bluff]

critters -> faelings

[timber glacier]

I guess that too but thats it

[spare pier]

OR, H34R M3 OUT

[split mortar]

Also turns me into an annoyed imobile brick falling through the planet

[spare pier]

1T DO3SNT 4CTU4LLY FUCK1NG K1LL H1M

[leaden bridge]

turning into a ghost is not magical transmog come on that guy is dead

[split mortar]

It just glues a really convincing bedsheet over the pirate

[timber glacier]

Hes just allergic

[spare pier]

NO H3 JUST LOOKS L1K3 TH4T NOW

[leaden bridge]

thats a dead person

[wanton pendant]

Why doesn't Calamitas throw her brother's cremains into the Shimmer? Is she stupid?

[split mortar]

You can make yourself cyan in the character creation screen this is not out of the ordinary for humans in calamity evidently

[leaden bridge]

hes fucking semitransparent

[split mortar]

It would turn catastrophes remains into cataclysms and cataclysms remains into catastrophes

[leaden bridge]

calamitas doesnt know about shimmer because she wasnt paying attention that day in permafrosts class

[split mortar]

Echo paint

[agile matrix]

we have multiple parts of our body that are transparent

shimmer just made him have that

[leaden bridge]

i dont think you can do that to yourself

[wanton pendant]

Damn.

[split mortar]

The shimmer did it to the pirate not himself.

[leaden bridge]

shimmering an exhumed weapon turns it back which is sorta like reviving if you think about it

[spare pier]

WHY DO YOU GUYS C4R3 4BOUT TH4T WH3N TH3R3S 4 GUY WHO C4N SPL1T 4 FUCK1NG MOUNT41N 1N TWO

[split mortar]

Because shimmer de exhuming calamitas stuff outscales that totally

[wanton pendant]

That's grounded and realistic.

[leaden bridge]

well that guy isnt ingame so it doent concern me to be honest

[wanton pendant]

Pirate ghosts, however....

[leaden bridge]

hes not a horse either

[spare pier]

M4G1C L3TS YOU BO1L 4 FUCK1NG S34, BUT M4K1NG YOU S3M1-TR4NSP4R3NT? NOW TH4TS TOO F4R

[agile matrix]

see i can blow a hole in a mountain with like

bombs and shit

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, that's insane.

[agile matrix]

that dude can just do it

[timber glacier]

Invisible dye

[wanton pendant]

Fully transparent is reasonable.

[agile matrix]

meanwhile shimmer i have no clue how it does htat

[wanton pendant]

Semi? Get outta here.

Semi? Get outta here.

[agile matrix]

since every time we go in it just dunks us

[timber glacier]

Some shimmer transmutations are werid tho

Like when shimmer touches any liquid it become aetherium

But if its in a bucket it becomes adifferent one?

[split mortar]

Simple, the metal affects the outcome

[wanton pendant]

It's like reverse rust.

[leaden bridge]

well, first of all its not dye its like some other shit. plus scientist dont even know the ramifications of its effects yet. mf hoe

[timber glacier]

Also how does any of the ore chain physically work

Like does it just change the atoms into other elements

[wanton pendant]

Transmutation.

[timber glacier]

And how does it not affect the blocks around it

[wanton pendant]

It's like chemistry, but more cancerous.

[split mortar]

Shimmer transmutes things to a lower perceived value idk

[timber glacier]

Like the stone around it should become dirt

[wanton pendant]

Don't... Inhale Shimmer fumes.

[split mortar]

We see that in game, it does not

[wanton pendant]

That's Supreme Stone.

[leaden bridge]

it must be completely dumped into shimmer to work obviously

[spare pier]

SH1MM3R DO3S W31RD BULLSH1T TH4TS 4BOUT 1T

[timber glacier]

But its so inconsistent

[wanton pendant]

Not really.

[split mortar]

Shimmer is gay and follows its own logic no one knows.

[timber glacier]

Why does gold become tungsten when an ore but if a worm is covered in it it becomes candy

[wanton pendant]

Magic.

[split mortar]

^

[spare pier]

SH1MM3R DO3S W31RD BULLSH1T

[thick slate]

drink it

[timber glacier]

I’m gonna go jump into shimmer to see what happens. Wish me luck

[split mortar]

You fall through the floor

[cosmic minnow]

horse

[leaden bridge]

shimmer imbues the worm with magical wormy magic which turns it into a consumable but gold is inert so it just reconfigures it

why cant the player be shimmered

[split mortar]

My In stars and time merch appeared today btw

[leaden bridge]

discuss

[cosmic minnow]

i saw

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bear-finger-wag-wagging-finger-wag-finger-gif-3240338207391852378

[cosmic minnow]

mans got big guns

[timber glacier]

Also why does shimmer shimmer you if your fishing rod touches it

[split mortar]

The terrarian is YOU and that cannot be overruled by the shimmer

[glacial rampart]

hi terezi good day

[thick slate]

hes so fine

[split mortar]

Fishing rods are part of you

[spare pier]

JOK3S 4S1D3 ST1P H4S 4 G3N3R4L LOG1C FOR 1T

[leaden bridge]

but the terrarian isnt me

[spare pier]

NOT S4Y1NG WH4T 1T 1S THOUGH

[split mortar]

Proof?

[leaden bridge]

theyre like a guy who i ccontrol

and project whatever into

[timber glacier]

Why does a spear become a trident
I don’t mean how does that happen I mean what purpose does that shimmer recipe have

[cosmic minnow]

youre literally the terrarian

[leaden bridge]

maybe split mod was right and we are possessing the player character like in deltarune

[timber glacier]

Split mod mention

[split mortar]

And you projected the design onto it.

[long bloom]

tridents are rarer ig

[wanton pendant]

To get tridents if you only have spears.

[split mortar]

I think if anything it would work closer to if the soul kept the vessel then a kris situation.

[timber glacier]

But like why does one need a trident

[wanton pendant]

To fish.

[split mortar]

Deals slightly more damage and gives water speed iirc

[timber glacier]

Like if you’ve found the shimmer theres a fair chance tridents wouldn’t be better than your gear

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but what if you want to fish?

[timber glacier]

Also given shimmering gives no reforges couldn’t it end up being weaker than the spear if it was legendery or godly or smth

[leaden bridge]

because tridents are awesome

[split mortar]

True but you can reforge the trident

[timber glacier]

And like why specifically tridents and no other water chest loot

[wanton pendant]

Just ask the Tinkerer.

[wanton pendant]

Because spears are like tridents.

[split mortar]

Because both are the spear type weapon of both chests

[timber glacier]

Yeah but like you can say that like hermes boots should become water waling boots cos they both boots

And like tridents aren’t even really that rare

[wanton pendant]

It's a good trident my friend.

[split mortar]

Does hermes become anything idr

[timber glacier]

Also why did relogic make the shimmer gun use a slime gun instead of the water gun

[leaden bridge]

because water gun sucks balls to get lmfao

[long bloom]

water gun is traveling merchant rng

[wanton pendant]

Shimmer is slimy, you know.

[split mortar]

Slimes also hold shimmer without becoming dirt

[timber glacier]

Yeah but like I feel its like a lot more consistent if it was water gun

[wanton pendant]

Why?

[split mortar]

?

[wanton pendant]

I see no reason that would be 'more consistent'.

[leaden bridge]

if anything it would be less the shimmer gun is clearly based, sprite wise, on the slime one

[timber glacier]

Shimerfall blocks and shimmer droppers use water versions

[long bloom]

bottomless water bucket crafts into bottomless shimmer bucket

[wanton pendant]

That's because there's no slimefalls or slime droppers.

[wanton pendant]

No slime bucket.

[timber glacier]

Well I guess slimes do become shimmer slimes when shimmered so I guess theres something

[long bloom]

shimmer also has the same physics as water

[split mortar]

The buckets gay
Its based on the items gayness i think

[long bloom]

not like
honey

[timber glacier]

But like I feel like making both work would be logical

[wanton pendant]

You want logic in your magic goop?

[timber glacier]

Consistency Is what I want

[split mortar]

Its the pool of super genderfluid you are not getting consistency

[timber glacier]

Fair

[leaden bridge]

i think gameplay takes priority over consistency here and it should because its\

[wanton pendant]

It has the consistency of a summer's dream.

[timber glacier]

Also it is weird that living wood wand becomes finch staff but living leaf wand has no shimmering

[leaden bridge]

its literally a magic pool of quality of life

[wanton pendant]

Living Leaf Wand has sinned.

[timber glacier]

I feel like it should maybe be
Living leaf wand -> living wood wand -> finch staff -> living leaf wand again
So that getting them all is more consistent

[split mortar]

Living leaf wand lacks the gayness

[timber glacier]

No it doesn’t its gay for living mahogany leaf wand

They’re a loving couple

[split mortar]

You realise thats straight

[timber glacier]

Why dould that be straight

[wanton pendant]

Living Lead Wand is clearly a woman, while Living Mahogany Leaf Wand exudes masculinity.

[timber glacier]

They’re both leaf wand sand thus are the same gender

[split mortar]

Because they’re dif genders?

[wanton pendant]

Not very woke of you.

[split mortar]

Nuh uh.

[timber glacier]

Basic plant biology

[wanton pendant]

Not how plants work.

[split mortar]

Mahogany is a fungus anyways

[timber glacier]

True

Also why is the bone wand a thing

Wouldn’t bone blocks just be more logicall

[split mortar]

To place bone blocks

[wanton pendant]

Ask Relogic.

[timber glacier]

But like why aren’t they just a block

Its literally even in the game as an item just unused

[split mortar]

Same applies to the living leaf and wood variants

[thick slate]

i think leaves are agender

[wanton pendant]

Ask Relogic.

[raven brook]

hi horse lore

[timber glacier]

I’ll go ask re-logic why he did this

[leaden bridge]

not really? living wood block item would be redundant rn

[thick slate]

who are yiu dude

[split mortar]

NaN compared to NaN results in not the same and so is not gay afaik

[leaden bridge]

bones do not have any kind of block

[raven brook]

cant you throw bones

as a weapon

thats probably why, lol

[leaden bridge]

i think its a wand because they wanted the conversion from bone to tile to be 1-1 and dont like doing a crafting recipe

[raven brook]

you cant place them cuz theyre already a weapon

so u get a wand to place them as blocks

[wanton pendant]

Bone Glove, isn't that an accessory now?

[leaden bridge]

and alsob ecause its release content and red was being experimental lmfao

[timber glacier]

But like you can make a block out of feathers now so wouldn’t bones just be crafted into one too

[raven brook]

bone glove is an accessory but you can still just throw bones as consumable weapons pretty sure

[split mortar]

Can still just throw bones afaik

[raven brook]

yeah but hey you get like

[timber glacier]

You can still bone your enemies yes (joke

[raven brook]

1 - 1 conversion instead

fun wholesome

[thick slate]

eat bone

[thick slate]

hate this

give me bone block

[split mortar]

How does Siffrin affect the calamity lore.

[wanton pendant]

By being a nerd, nerd.

[timber glacier]

They causes the calamity (tm)

[leaden bridge]

im not relogic

[split mortar]

Oh right you all only associate Siffrin with me.

[wanton pendant]

Hey, I played the game!

[split mortar]

O huh really?

[timber glacier]

Also why is the new way to get renewable auric ore crafting yharin soul fragments into it at shimmer

[thick slate]

is the game good

[wanton pendant]

How else would it work?

[timber glacier]

I feel like theres an much more obvious method

Instead of literally being crafted

[wanton pendant]

What could that possibly be?

[timber glacier]

Like in the menu

I don’t know but Its on the tip of my tongue

Uhhhh

[thick slate]

wish i had a menu #hungry

[wanton pendant]

You want us to throw them in?

The things that float?

In the air?

[timber glacier]

How hundry

Shimmer cloak

[wanton pendant]

Needeless complication.

[timber glacier]

It just feels to me like It doesn’t follow how shimmer works on a basic level gameplay wise

Why do other recipes have you throw them in while this doesn’t

[thick slate]

other things are crafted at liquids

[timber glacier]

Yeah but nothing at shimmer in specifc

[thick slate]

isnt mirror of kalandra crafted at shimmer

[timber glacier]

Even shimmerfall blocks and shimmer droppers are shimmering recipes

[long bloom]

donor

[thick slate]

so?

[timber glacier]

Its a donor item so it don’t count

[thick slate]

oh

[raven brook]

the donor specifically asked for it to be like that so devs didnt really have a say on it

[timber glacier]

Also that recipe has multiple items in it while auric ore thing is just one item becoming another

[thick slate]

how else do you throw like 5 things jn it

yea

idk man the souls float

how go in if float

[timber glacier]

Shimmer cloak that lets you enter the shimmer

[thick slate]

boooo

[spare pier]

1TS JUST FOR CONV3N13NC3

[timber glacier]

Or use bubble blocks and toss it in from the side

[thick slate]

boooo

[spare pier]

OTH3RW1S3 1TS 4NNOY1NG 4S FUCK

[timber glacier]

But my consistency

[glacial rampart]

what if we throw terezi in the shimmer

[timber glacier]

True

What happens

[spare pier]

YOU G3T TWO OF M3

[thick slate]

mitosis!

[stoic lark]

She becomes vriska or smthing idk

[glacial rampart]

dude fuck yes

[spare pier]

NO

🖕🖕🖕🖕

[timber glacier]

Infinite Terezi creator

[spare pier]

N3V3R

[stoic lark]

[timber glacier]

Random actual lore question: Are the quest fish canon to Calamity?

Like since some don’t make sense biologically

[raven brook]

dunno why they wouldnt be

its a magic world

[timber glacier]

Such as dynamite fish

[raven brook]

shit can be wacky

[spare pier]

TH3 SULPHUROUS S34 3X1STS

[thick slate]

fish

[timber glacier]

But like how are the fish that are like other terraria creature but a fish a thing that could exist

Such as harpyfish

Or derpfish

[raven brook]

its magic amn

get silly

make up a headcanon if you want

[timber glacier]

I need to know Quest Fish Biology in Terraria

[raven brook]

quest fish biology isnt something that would or should get a canonical explanation

there is such a thing as too much info

[split mortar]

How are you more interested in the terraria fish biology then jane fish

[raven brook]

you can just make up a headcanon if u want

[thick slate]

besides its not even that crazy for most the fish

[raven brook]

theres silly fish the angler asks you to catch for him and it dosent need to be deeper than that

[hollow tulip]

Boy I'm Soo hungry could eat a

[raven brook]

derpling headcanon

[hazy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-walking-eyes-side-eyes-eyes-emoji-gif-16243782770187083509

[raven brook]

the derpfish are the larval stage of them gg

[hollow tulip]

Horse

[raven brook]

like dragonflies

theyre nymphs

see just made up a headcanon

[thick slate]

ew

[raven brook]

what do u have against dragonflies

theyre cool as fuck

[thick slate]

no i thought of earwigs

and said ew to my thought

i like dragonflies

they are my favourite bug

[raven brook]

oh yay

[timber glacier]

Also if they are cannon does that mean wyverns are amphibians cos wyverntails are explicitly their tadpole stage

[thick slate]

no cheese said head canon

[raven brook]

no theyre dragons

dosent have to follow real world biology

[glacial rampart]

im john vegas

call me john vegas

[raven brook]

hi john vegas

[split mortar]

They are the children of vetreasyl the storm dragon

Or well not really children
Great tgreat greya great greatg grand children atp probsbly

[raven brook]

Descendants id say

[split mortar]

Children of vetrasyl has higher aura then descendants of vetrasyl imo

[raven brook]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[timber glacier]

True

[raven brook]

melon go sleep youve already admitted ur brain is decaying due to it being late

[split mortar]

Not even that hard to understand

[timber glacier]

Also another thought: are sharkrons related to dragons like the fishrons and pigrons?
Like they’re summoned by duke fishron and have some design resemblance but are they biologically related?

[raven brook]

yeah

[split mortar]

The ron in the name is from dragon

[thick slate]

not sleeping statistically causes cancer

[split mortar]

So does living with people who vape so eh

[visual kiln]

i cant believe the carrion biome is happening

[long bloom]

sharkrons are literally just duke's kids it says in the bestiary

[timber glacier]

Oh okay

[split mortar]

Foetus fight

[long bloom]

my condolences

[thick slate]

second hand vape not as bad as not sleeping

[raven brook]

dude throwing his babies at you

[timber glacier]

Wait thats weird how does a pig dragon fish give birth to shark dragons

[split mortar]

They used to smoke

[split mortar]

Dragon fuckery

[raven brook]

As ive said before it dosent have to follow real biology

[timber glacier]

Also who would be the mother?

[raven brook]

Probably naother fishron

[thick slate]

does he reproduce asexually

aw

[raven brook]

If you want to headcanon smth, it can just be another case of larval forms being way different from adults

[timber glacier]

Wouldn’t that make “clones” as the children

[raven brook]

could also be the case tho yea

[stoic lark]

Old mitosis

[thick slate]

yummy

[raven brook]

desert scourge is able to reproduce asexually so maybe ifshrons do too idk

[split mortar]

The sharkrons bulk up a lot of fat which are called pigrons, seek out a cold climate and eventually make a chrysalis where they become a fishron

[raven brook]

i think the pigrons r just a different species

but related

[timber glacier]

But also are fishrons/pigrons looking like pigs convergent or are pigs in calamity dragon descendents

[split mortar]

No fuck you you’re lame

[raven brook]

i think its lamer for everything that looks alike to be hte same animal

makes it so theres less variety

[long bloom]

pigs being draconic offshoots would be funny as fuck

so that

[raven brook]

pigs are fucked up in calamity

i dont know whats up with them but theyre fucked up

i assume its probably just convergent but maybe not idk theyre fucked up

[split mortar]

The swine is that divine

[upper warren]

If I use terminus to perfectly absorb Yhaorns soul, do my auric weapons still work or are the fragments absorbed as well?

[raven brook]

its why i think aquatic/desert/sunekn scourge all being different but related species is alot cooler than then all being the same animal like in old lore

it makes the world's ecoloy feel a bit more fleshed out and believable

[raven brook]

I think regardless of using terminus or not it wouldn't affect youri weapons

[timber glacier]

Also on the same idea what about sharks in relation to sharkrons

[raven brook]

Those are already separated from his soul as is

[split mortar]

🤷
With how devs treat god ascension leaving no trace i would not doubt a loss of auric soul shards happening in the auric but thats just theorising from a dumb enby at 00:49

[timber glacier]

Like are sharks dragon descendants

[raven brook]

probably not but idk

sharks just seem normal

[split mortar]

Sharks are sharks

[raven brook]

itd be weird to make them randomly related to dragons

but with pigs its atlest funny

cuz of how fucked up pigs are

the horrible hog and such

[split mortar]

Divine swine

Are piggies just the eevee of calamity

[timber glacier]

Well sharks in Terraria are kinda weird tho since they somehow seem to be able to survive on land and also lava sharks and sand sharks exists

[raven brook]

do i have to say it again ..

user

please

😭 stop looking at things from a irl biology standpoint

[timber glacier]

I’m sorry i’m just very curious

Also since sharks being dragons would be awesome

[long bloom]

true

[raven brook]

I disagree personally bcuz godamn

way too amny dragons laready

[long bloom]

true

[raven brook]

the mod is overcentralizing in its worldbuilding atm

[split mortar]

Yeah

[raven brook]

Dragon God Dragon God Yharim God Dragon

[timber glacier]

They did kind of absorb the world’s energy or something so them being central kind of makes sense

[raven brook]

It's fine just do consider that his is a fantasy setting and you need to look at in-universe worldbuilding from that lens

[raven brook]

Narratively its not particularly good

[timber glacier]

Fair

[raven brook]

It makes the world feel smaller

Ofc

[split mortar]

Yes but its over centralising to the point that its being a detriment to other things partially iirc

[raven brook]

Ultimately the "maain plot" will be more central, adn tahts fair

[thick slate]

sharks are my god

[raven brook]

But also fleshing out worldbuilding in other avenues is good and amkes the world feel lived in and diverse

[split mortar]

Why is yharim hot

[raven brook]

is this quotebiat

bait

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bear-finger-wag-wagging-finger-wag-finger-gif-3240338207391852378

[split mortar]

Do you think i have the brain capacity to remember what that means rn

[raven brook]

go the fuck to sleep

[timber glacier]

His armour is very fluffy like a sweater and thus he is heated up by it

[long bloom]

sleepgun

[thick slate]

inside of yharims armor def fluffy

[split mortar]

I feel like if i dont go to sleep i will get shot multiple times by ricardo

[thick slate]

very cozy

[raven brook]

book

[split mortar]

Food.

[timber glacier]

Go to sleep its pasture bed time 🥁 🐴

[thick slate]

clever ahh

[split mortar]

Ok im staying up and getting a drink of soda

[cosmic minnow]

i once saw an artist draw yharim as this human ganondorf like person with all the muscles and real long red hair and since then thats yharim to me

in short

hes hot

cuz hes hot

[thick slate]

hes hot cuz of the scars from the lava

yeouch

[cosmic minnow]

tru

[thick slate]

why

caffeine bad

[split mortar]

Not a caffeinated sofa

[cosmic minnow]

sofa

[thick slate]

rare

[cosmic minnow]

a whole sofa??

[raven brook]

siffrin gun i will time you out in sscls until you go to sleep

[split mortar]

Yes

[thick slate]

just go to sleep ahh

[cosmic minnow]

i was uzp till 4 am yesterday

[split mortar]

This is becoming more prominent for some reason

[cosmic minnow]

ill break that record today

only 2 more hours to go

[thick slate]

why

guys just sleep

[cosmic minnow]

nah

[thick slate]

its so nice

[cosmic minnow]

i love sleeping

[timber glacier]

Also random thought: aren’t all the bone serpents dead in the lore, if I remember correctly, and were like allied with like the dragon of fire or something. However how does the lava serpent bowl which if i am correct is presumably what they were exist with an alive one?

[cosmic minnow]

actzually

maybe i should sleep

[thick slate]

when ur like out working or smth all day

[raven brook]

Ye

[thick slate]

and you come home shower

[raven brook]

The bone serpents got shot and killed

[thick slate]

and hit the Hay

[cosmic minnow]

sticthes from ma mouth are getting pulled tomorrow

[thick slate]

its so good

[timber glacier]

Like how does the baby one exist then

[raven brook]

The lava serpent bowl can be seen as like a baby that survived

or smth

idk

[thick slate]

wtf

[raven brook]

its just a little guy

[thick slate]

why do u have stitches

[cosmic minnow]

(wisdom teeth removal last week)

[thick slate]

are u the jonkler

oh

[cosmic minnow]

chose to do it while concious

big mistake

[split mortar]

The jonkler just had wisdom teeth

[thick slate]

yea i get knocked out for every dental thing

fuck that

[timber glacier]

I guess since they are locked up in obsidian crates maybe the lore is instead of killing the kids they just locked them away or something