lore-discussion

[wanton pendant]

(GFB version is just stock images of a father and son playing in a slideshow with Old Duke and the Player's head poorly edited on.)

[raven brook]

evo search for eden for the snes

[ruby heart]

not exactly this but think

[hollow pivot]

So what does the player do to make Old Duke embrace evil? Apparently the player “indulges” him but that's quite vague imo.

[ruby heart]

the frenzied flame ending of elden ring

[wanton pendant]

Tell him arson is cool, yo.

[raven brook]

OD goes from being the ruler of this one stinky sea to basically going full doomer mode and deciding the world sucks and the only way to make it good is if he and the terrarian rule all of it forever

[ruby heart]

convince him to keep pushing it, support his ideals, help him on the execution of it by slaying the other offshoot kings

their bond through the quest

[raven brook]

he goes from "damn this guy kinda sucks" to "DAMN THIS GUY REALLY SUCKS"

🔥

[flat berry]

In sumary:

The melee was actively trying to kill yharim as revenge for what happened to the sunken sea (was a merman like amidias)

The ranger was a hired gun hunting down calamitas until iding out they were being used to pave the way for someone else

The summoner literally just was trying to tame yharon (this was when the offspring was still canon)

The mage was an amnesiac member o yharim's army looking for answers

An the rogue was just trying to steal powerfull artifacts

[hollow pivot]

Is there a different way to go about the storyline?

[ruby heart]

yes if you just dont

follow it

the good ending for both is if you dont indulge him or go after the stuff

he ends up alive and ""well""

the player dont fuck up anything

the player taking action and trying to solve the situation is what fucks it up by the end

[wanton pendant]

"Slay my rivals!"
"No?"
Good Ending Unlocked.

[hollow pivot]

What if you player ragebaits and does everything he doesn't want?

[flat berry]

"Have you tried therapy? Maybe? "

[hollow pivot]

(Saving certain Offshoot Kings)

[raven brook]

"i can fix him" nah

[ruby heart]

the ideia though is that he isnt really a ruler and is only used by the others since he has the auric soul of frost (a keepsake from the auric dragon who raised him) and its important

[raven brook]

"i can make him worse"

[ruby heart]

for the other offshoots and the palace

[ruby heart]

they dont need help though

[hollow pivot]

Is there a way to fight the kings without helping Duke?

[wanton pendant]

"A weird guy in a yellow suit of armour keeps breaking in and trying to steal this thing."
"I need a night guard, only for five nights..."
"By the way, my real name? It's Freddy, Freddy Fishron."

[hollow pivot]

Fredron?

[ruby heart]

basically at first the player thinks old duke would be a much better ruler than the existing offshoot kings, and both go on a quest around that, old duke has kinda fucked up beliefs sometimes which come from him being isolated and discarded his entire life, which he questions and know are bad but due to the player encouragement and him learning about the world more during the quest, he goes deeper into it

[flat berry]

I think i should actually write down my weird ideas for the player lore of the different classes on my first playthrough

[ruby heart]

the plan shift from making OD the ruler of the offshoots, to giving him a position similar to the god king, stopping the cycle of the world

[hollow pivot]

Can we replace the offshoot kings because we cooler than dragons?

[ruby heart]

the thing backfires, the player (hopefully) see how fucked up the entire thing is and goes agaisnt the plan at the very end, the duke seeing it as a act of betrayal and him being discarded again by a figure he trusted (like what the auric dragons, wyrm and other did to him) he engage the player on combat and the fight starts ™

[ruby heart]

true

[ruby heart]

yes

[agile matrix]

what kings?? i just tabbed in

[dusk laurel]

dragon offshoot kings idea

[agile matrix]

Plink Sfx

[sinful adder]

This sounds like it really forces the player into a specific path

I don't like this change. I would prefer the characters to already be the way they are

Most of them anyways

[long bloom]

you can just

not do it

[sinful adder]

But then I can't fight old duke

[hollow pivot]

Apparently you can also simply not follow Duke, and you can still fight the Offshoot Kings.

[long bloom]

ok

then you can't fight old duke

[hollow pivot]

You know that for sure?

[sinful adder]

Not really

if there was something like this, I'd prefer to be able to interact with the Duke without enabling him being shitty

[spare pier]

I'm ngl that's just really boring

😭

[long bloom]

"i would like a way to do this story thing without engaging with the story"

[spare pier]

The player not being allowed to make questionable choices and change the world in bad ways is just so fucking boring and like, yeah man we gotta lock content behind it sometimes because that's how games with a story work

[dusk laurel]

i like optional bosses where you have to actually go out of your way to interact and fight them instead of it just being like the rest and you just finding it and wanting to fight

[ruby heart]

yea, with these a thing i wish would change is that

the boss rush only has bosses you fought

[long bloom]

[long bloom]

also true

[ruby heart]

would be kinda uncanny if for example OD is behind a optional hidden quest line, and then he just magically appears on boss rush

even though you never interacted with it

[hollow pivot]

There should just be a non-canonical way to fight bosses which you can't canonically fight (Like OD in the good-route).
If you can re-fight bosses and that's not canon, you should be able to fight bosses non-canonically.

[ruby heart]

or like wyrm, or other bosses in general

[long bloom]

what

[dusk laurel]

imagine the cv fight starts by you trying to open the portal and then the gazillion seals on it activate and jump you

[eager bluff]

now i could be wrong but that seems like

you just cheat sheet the boss in

[dusk laurel]

thats true yeah

cheat sheet is like the best qol mod

[ruby heart]

the dragon lens

[eager bluff]

"non-canon boss spawn" yeah thats just spawning them in via external tools

[light linden]

I mean

[hollow pivot]

That would be a funny post-Yharon upgrade to the Binoculars.

[light linden]

that happens to me regularly lmao

[ruby heart]

yea and its a issue ( in my opnion)

[light linden]

no I like it

makes me have to react the first time

[dusk laurel]

what?

[ruby heart]

this would create a evil meta of not fighting bosses so your boss rush is lower but at the same time its like really stupid and nobody cares and wouldnt impact anything (boss rush sucks and its only kept rn tbh because of Cd music user tracks)

[hollow pivot]

Will Boss Rush be replaced?

[hollow pivot]

Because the Terminus is a pretty important thing in-lore, but rn it's boring.

[long bloom]

people that don't want to engage with the game already won't, regardless of this

so why bother

[eager bluff]

replaced probably not but its gonna be better Eventually™

[long bloom]

why bother catering to them*

[terse moss]

I think part of the issue with boss rush is that it is too weak

You can kill each boss (barring the final 4) in like 3 seconds flat

With a wholly unoptimized build

It only serves as a way to farm shattered community stacks to cheese Jared

[zenith geode]

the problem with boss rush in terraria imo is the mobility creep

[hollow pivot]

Boss Rush imo has little-to-no redeeming qualities at this time.

[terse moss]

Will the terminus eventually be repurposed to just be a Xeroc summon?

[hollow pivot]

I don't think Xeroc will just be “Use item and summon”

[terse moss]

Or something related to it

Maybe a key to the aerie or something idk

[zenith geode]

boss rushes can work in rpgs or other games because either mobility literally doesnt exist or it doesnt actually change much compared to the difference between sandstorm bottle and wings of rebirth

[hollow pivot]

How did we go from lore-discussion to boss-rush balance?

[languid badge]

also in most rpgs healing is limited in some way meanwhile terraria just has infinite regen and running out of potions is not a realistic concern

[sinful adder]

Oh I have no issue with it being an option, but I don't want to be locked into doing shitty things in order to get a story at all

[agile matrix]

boss rushes are often (in my knowledge) moreso victory lap than challenges

in calamity though you can kinda just healstall for 99% of it

current balancing fails to really make the early bosses threats

[hollow pivot]

Calamity: Story Mode when?

[zinc flume]

is the slashes present in the map/world have anything to do with calamity or natural terain gen
ive been taking a brek for a while and got back into calamity whenthe upd dropped and am playing wiht fargos mutent mod so i get the map revel in hardmode

and was wondering if the slashes present was natural world gen or a calamity lore thingy

[long bloom]

the what

[zinc flume]

that

[long bloom]

those are caves

also from the better caves mod i'm pretty sure

[zinc flume]

oh so its just a natural thing
as i saw ALOT of them

[zinc flume]

alr

thx

[thick slate]

yharim got realy mad at rocks

[split mortar]

Pmao

[wanton pendant]

Just make two versions of Boss Rush, the first gives you the Rock and only uses bosses you fought, and a second harder version where Xeroc goes "How about you prove yourself against other notable beings?" And if you do minimum bosses Xeroc pulls out the Xegun.

[split mortar]

………

[sinful adder]

Calclone design if it was good

Now it can be both humanoid and an eye

[wheat walrus]

lowk

like that's cool now that u point it out

humanoid and eye at once,,,

[thick slate]

calclone be like

im calammitas but clone

[solemn needle]

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It will no longer be updated nor maintained, and it is heavily vandalized with fake information.

Use the official Calamity Mod Wiki here at wiki.gg instead.

[simple tangle]

ur so right taylor

[thick slate]

thanks guys

anytime

[pulsar ocean]

its time

[crystal pendant]

Time passed it’s over now

[eternal veldt]

I hate this so much idk why

[thick slate]

hi sorry im late i was working

hi im calamityas and im supreme

[pulsar ocean]

ur so right

[thick slate]

thanks guys

never again

[brazen tangle]

im calamity ass and im calamiting it

[thick slate]

fuck you

[atomic locust]

calamitous

[pastel bay]

This really was a Calamity mod: Brainstorm

[brazen tangle]

calamiting it so good

[gritty summit]

Did Calamitas flash-vaporize the ocean which housed Ilmeris,or did she need some time to evaporate all of that water?

[dusk laurel]

it took time

[thick slate]

a while

dude if i was ilmeris i would drop big clam right on her

k.o

[split mortar]

If she flash vaporised it i dont think
There would be a world for most people to live in

Since

That means yharim had that level of destructive power at some point

[light linden]

I still wanna see her try to use something similar to what she did to illmeris against us

[dusk laurel]

ive been saying this she needs a flamethrower attack

[gritty summit]

Yharim's current state is that he's more or less seeking Suicide By Terrarian,right?

[dusk laurel]

hes trying to train up the terrarian as someone with his beliefs so theres atleast a chance he can get xeroc dead, and sorta yeah thats kinda what he wants at the end of the fight

[brazen tangle]

wtf was the devourer doing after yharim vanished

like, draedon was developing the exomechs, calamitas and permafrost both left yharim but dog just kind of

exists

[dusk laurel]

looking for more gods to kill

[brazen tangle]

okay yeah makes sense

[light linden]

looking for more gods to eat for noxus

[gritty summit]

The Devourer of Gods isn't a free-willed agent,at least by my reckoning. It's acting on the orders of Noxus,the central intelligence of the Distortion's gestalt intelligence.

The Distortion is explicitly a hive mind,with Noxus as its central intelligence.
Anything from the Distortion is just one more drone in this collective.
Certain drones,such as Signus or the DoG,are more cognitively complex in order to carry out their specific tasks.

[dusk laurel]

signus is not part of noxus' hivemind

its a separate entity thats unaffiliated with it

[split mortar]

Weaver and signus are explicitly not in it iirc

[dusk laurel]

same for moon lord before it got locked away and disconnected from its home dimension

[gritty summit]

I thought Fovos was just an interstellar conqueror.

[brazen tangle]

oh theres actual connectiond between the distortion and the ml

i was wondering about yhat

[split mortar]

Ml is from the distortion its said in the bestiary

[dusk laurel]

although most things we'll see are a part of said hivemind noxus is not the in total control of everything

its not even like, stronger than ml before the invasion of terraria right now

[dusk laurel]

more lore was added in the last major update, like melon gun said

[split mortar]

Given centuries to be stronger and its still below ml

[dusk laurel]

the lore in the mod is but a fraction of the total story and narrative and this is because the mod isnt finished at all and the story itself is not completely implemented, let alone in a satisfactory way

[brazen tangle]

random thought: is astrum deus like the dog but for stars rather than gods?

[dusk laurel]

deus actually digests the stars it eats so no

[split mortar]

Deus is a juvenile natural organism of a galactic species

[light linden]

I'm not gonna lie

I do feel like tying moon lord to the distortion makes the world feel a bit smaller

[brazen tangle]

astral infection looks pretty similar to cosmolite so i thought maybe theyd be connected

[split mortar]

Cosmolite is distortion liquid metal thingy
Astral is stars going rotten after not being eaten for long enough

[dusk laurel]

it works better for the narrative around xeroc and the threat the distortion poses imo

[light linden]

the only question I have is

how old is noxus?

[dusk laurel]

also like, the distortion is very much not a small place

[dusk laurel]

we dont know

and never will

[split mortar]

Old enough to have made cv which dates back to the golden age of dragons

[light linden]

do we know he made CV?

or did Fovos?

[dusk laurel]

noxus

its heavily implied to be noxus because fovos is kinda not in the distortion to be the presence yharim felt when looking into cv

[split mortar]

Also dev statements

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is like, at least five.

[dusk laurel]

shut it little bug

[wanton pendant]

Maybe even six.

[dusk laurel]

puts you into containment

[thick slate]

what abou 7

[wanton pendant]

Our top scientists dread to imagine the possibility.

[raven brook]

Not necessarily

There is a hive mind in the distortion controlled by Noxus, that much is true

but nothing says that Everything in there is a part of that, in fact yeah

we have direct proof thats not the case

It would be very boring and creatively limiting if every single being ever on the distortion and everythong on it was just noxus, considering its menat to be a entire alternate dimension with its own biomes and creatures and resources and etc

[raven brook]

(Signus, Storm Weaver, most certainly Fovos even if there's no explicit confirmation he isn't part of it cuz cmon)

[thick slate]

what if noxus is just all the rocks

[raven brook]

what if noxus is ur mom

[split mortar]

Noxus is the roaring knight

[thick slate]

kinda awesome

does that make me DoG

[raven brook]

yeah

[thick slate]

fire

[raven brook]

Tho Signus/Fovos and Storm Weaver are distinct cases

Signus and Fovos likely are just independent beings iwth no affiliation to Noxus

while Weaver was likely a underling of Noxus at some point but broke free, somehow

weaver freedom motif

[eternal veldt]

If let's say the terrarian rebuilt amidias's kingdom what would his rection be?

[thick slate]

thanks man

[brazen tangle]

what is a rection

what if you introduce them to the internet

[raven brook]

no

dont say that

[thick slate]

do not show amidias cst

[raven brook]

endless tortue and pain

torture

torment

[thick slate]

sorry i deadnamed it

cut

[brazen tangle]

you dare delete my punchline?!?!?!!?!?!?

wowwww

so rude

[split mortar]

This conversation is incomprehensible

[thick slate]

blind people:

[light linden]

random thought

did Azafure have any soups?

[thick slate]

blood soup

lava soup

rock soup

[light linden]

they're such a common food type but

they're both hot which wouldn't be nice for a hot climate and need water to be made which just doesn't in the underworld

[thick slate]

cold soupo exists

but ur second point makes sense

what did they eat even

[light linden]

don't those use ingredients that do not grow well in hot climates?

[thick slate]

yea

deadass did they eat rocks

[light linden]

I mean

there are plants that I could see growing there

[thick slate]

how do the plants even groew

[light linden]

namely grapes, coffee, taro, potatoes, rice, and bananas like volcanic areas iirc

[thick slate]

brimstone aint just a volcanic area

[light linden]

so I could see a few of those growing there

[thick slate]

they got no water

[light linden]

ik

[thick slate]

or sunlight

[light linden]

but it is also the closest comparison

[thick slate]

they eating microscopic lava bacteria

[light linden]

also

with how hot azafurian lava is

it might act as a sort of substitute for sunlight

[thick slate]

it emits uv

[light linden]

this is very much not a field I am knowledgeable in I should point out

[thick slate]

i think plants eat all light actually

but they also like uv

[light linden]

I thought they used the red spectrum of visible light

[thick slate]

idk

i feed my indoor plants light with uv

makes them grow better

i could see the lava doing that tbh

[light linden]

iirc

too much uv can bake plants

[thick slate]

iirc

[brazen tangle]

people need to drink tho so they probably had a hellevator-like structure to bring down water

[thick slate]

plants grow outside

you know what else is outside

the sun

[light linden]

uv light I know

hence why I said too much

[thick slate]

im gonna blast you with the sun

[light linden]

please don't

[thick slate]

oh sorry

[dusk laurel]

why wouldnt they

[thick slate]

like having an ice cream in a blizzard

[raven brook]

Azafure definitely had water

It'd literally be impossible for them to Live if they didn't

[raven brook]

I think exporting water from the surface is likely yeah

[spare pier]

Nope sorry

They drank lava

[raven brook]

they drank milk cartons that drop from skeletons at a 0.47% chance

[spare pier]

True

[cosmic zenith]

Red and violet

Mainly

[spare pier]

Ok but lowkey that's probably how they stayed hydrated early into their civilization?

Milk I mean just in general

They can get water that drips from the Abyss but that'd take a while to get properly set up

[dusk laurel]

azafurian goats...

[raven brook]

I mean i imagine there probably was just atleast one body of water somewhere due to the dripping happening over like

hundreds/thousands of years

But yeah they could like

Use most of that water for farming and animals

And drink less water themselves

And use milk and maybe fruit juices as,

[spare pier]

They at least probably heavily supplemented their diet with milk

[raven brook]

whats the word

suppplements yea

[spare pier]

Hydration

Moisturizer

Both of these don't work but idc

[spare pier]

This is something I find funny to think about because like they lowkey chose a fucking dogshit place to live in but also that was like

One of the better ones

[thick slate]

strong bones

[spare pier]

At least Brimmy warded off anything else that could threaten them

[light linden]

I do wonder if the climate was more temperate before brimmy came back

but uh

laura while you're here

[spare pier]

Besides Demons

[light linden]

what's your take on them growing these plants?

[spare pier]

Idk

I don't know shit about farming

[light linden]

[thick slate]

rice needs an exceptional amount of water

[dusk laurel]

rice needs like alot of water idk

guess where azafure is

[thick slate]

waterpark

[dusk laurel]

yeah azafure is in sea world

[light linden]

azafure growing coffee would give them a valuable trade commodity though

[spare pier]

Not really?

[raven brook]

yeah rice is a swamp plant

[thick slate]

yk what if they just grew coffee in the jungle and it didnt taste like ash and sucked

[random mulch]

the soil near volcanoes is rich because of the ashes from afaik

but the ashes have to be part of the soil, not the soil itself

[light linden]

Coffee was one of the most traded commodities for a LONG time

[spare pier]

Coffee was only a valuable commodity irl because of the very specific circumstances of our planet

[random mulch]

and has to come from burnt plants

[spare pier]

Namely the fact that the biggest nations in the world existed in places where growing coffee fucking sucked

[light linden]

eh?

[thick slate]

they should grow tobacco

[light linden]

the ottoman empire had it

[spare pier]

This isn't the case for Terraria, where civilization generally grew at the same pace all around

[dusk laurel]

the ottoman empire for most of its history wasnt just in one climate yk

[spare pier]

Due to the fact that pretty much everyone had a hard ceiling due to the surface being fucked

[thick slate]

the birthplace of humanity

[light linden]

they also grew in very difference places

[raven brook]

azafure probably grew peppers and pomegranates cuz

those grow in ash trees

[simple tangle]

🐇

[random mulch]

what if hell had its own set of crops rather than just surface stuff

[simple tangle]

everyone say hi to the bunny

[light linden]

one is underwater, the other in literal hell, a 3rd in the sky, and the last one in a subterranean jungle

like irl there'd likely be some goods that would be hard to get in the cities

[raven brook]

bnnuy

[light linden]

hell I vaguely recall stip saying that chrysadia didn't have much livestock

gimme a sec

wanna see if I can't find that

[raven brook]

Peppers in particular i can see being a good source of wealth

Cuz peppers are very versatile as spices

[wanton pendant]

What about these?

[raven brook]

and can be stored for a long time without spoiling because of that

[light linden]

no like

on a practical level it wouldn't be wise to have them

limited space and all

[spare pier]

This is the most important aspect to me, the end of the draconic era didn't allow civilizations to flourish as much as exchange resources, and the most important thing in this scenario would be that due to so many civilizations growing in many different and often inhospitable places, resources that are relatively common in our world would likely be far more valued

Uh

Wrong reply

[spare pier]

.

[spare pier]

Not only that but the world of Terraria is inherently more militaristic due to the fact that they have things 300 times more worrying to deal with than wolves

[light linden]

e.g. idt cows would be a good idea to bring up there

[wanton pendant]

Now imagine if they had a hundred year war!

[light linden]

they eat a LOT of food

and need a lot of space

chickens or something would probably have been raised there though

[spare pier]

So yeah I think applying rules like "this was greatly valued in our society so it should be in theirs" is a bit disingenuous and fails to account for the very unique circumstances of the Calamity world

[light linden]

maybe some types of bees and/or goats as well

[wanton pendant]

Can you use Harpy as livestock, or would that be too close to cannibalism?

[light linden]

probably too close

also they're predators I think

[spare pier]

Like, by all means the most valued commodity in the entire world is probably water, because many civilizations were forced to build in places with little access to it because protection from the sun and other entities is way more important in this world

[thick slate]

why dont they just built in the forest biome

[spare pier]

Because of the sun

[light linden]

which means they're exponentially more likely to have parasites and also need a much harder food to acquire

[thick slate]

does being in the sky prevent the sun

[spare pier]

That's more of a Vetrasyl thing

[light linden]

I still wonder if my theory about ocean levels being lower in the draconic era is true

[dusk laurel]

these are such specific worldbuilding details dawg

[wanton pendant]

How did Yharim affect CO2 emissions?

[thick slate]

he breathes it all in

thank you yharim

[spare pier]

You'd be shocked by how many comically specific worldbuilding details I have ngl

[wanton pendant]

Finally, that's what we've wanted all along!

[wanton pendant]

I knew he was a tree!

[light linden]

iirc throughout history stupid hot weather has lead to both funky water conditions and crazy storms

[spare pier]

Most of them are either about the mana system or civilizations tho

[light linden]

Vanillin I'm pretty sure half the lore devs have the same thing that makes me think about these hyper specific things

[dusk laurel]

autism?

[spare pier]

Her writing is fire?

[wanton pendant]

Brazil just does things to you.

[dusk laurel]

higher temperatures would mean water thats frozen would be melted, also water would get less dense and take up more space, there would be more and bigger storms for sure

[light linden]

no clue

[dusk laurel]

and we know the planet rn has areas that are cold enough to atleast have something frozen, like permafrost didnt make the snow biome for example he just enhanced it

[light linden]

I have several mental issues and I ain't sure which one does it to me

[spare pier]

Isn't it convenient that there are like 5 dragons who could make this way less intense?

[light linden]

better question

[thick slate]

permafrost is so old

[light linden]

how many could do it planet wide?

[thick slate]

does yharim provide 401k

[spare pier]

Realistically I think all of them could through very specific setups

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Cool Shades was a friend to humanity.

[light linden]

it also would mean water would evaporate faster

[spare pier]

Magic can be very large-spanning in Calamity and I have no qualms with that if to do that they need to take countless hoops and bounds and set it up for a century or something

[wanton pendant]

God of Optometry wasn't as cool on comparison.

[dusk laurel]

the water cycle is supercharged

its not a "is there more water in the air or sea" its just more chaotic and inconsistent

like the fact that there were still living things like plants and animals on the surface despite everything tells me it wasnt hot enough to humidify some of the water where its noticable

[spare pier]

At the same time I think it's interesting to explore the idea that this was exclusive to the Heartlands

Except the sun the sun was fucked everywhere

[light linden]

Ngl I can't decide whether the draconic era reminds me more of the Carboniferous or Triassic

[spare pier]

So only the Heartlands were generally kept intact by the dragons while everywhere else had to deal with The Horrors

[dusk laurel]

it could be more interesting if it made the world more humid impo

[spare pier]

Which also by proxy helps explain why the Heartlands, y'know

The Heartlands

[dusk laurel]

triassic in the early half was so dry...

[wanton pendant]

Dragons also xenophobic.

[spare pier]

"Why is this place the center of the world?" well because the draconic era environment was comically fucked and the dragons arbitrarily chose it to be their home, so it was made less fucked by their hand while the entire rest of the world had to contend with it

[dusk laurel]

wwg i think youre a dragon

[wanton pendant]

I'm... Like A Dragon?

[spare pier]

Though I suppose it wasn't exactly "comically fucked"

Just

Very extreme

[sinful adder]

Farming needs far more water than a person needs to drink. An environment like the crags would typically result in nomadic inhabitants that travel between sources of water and natural vegetation for animals to eat

[raven brook]

It'd be kinda like eating monkeys i think,

Some people do it

But it's kinda uncanny

[thick slate]

id eat one

[raven brook]

Most people woulpdn't

And yeah they're predators so

Not really, very viable

[spare pier]

Yeah that's just not reasonable for Azafurians

Though tbf they live in fucking hell

Their plantations were like

Arid +++

[dusk laurel]

azafure importing most of their food and water moment

[spare pier]

One drop of water and this shit will live for the next month

[wanton pendant]

Hell Succulents.

[spare pier]

I also just realized that everything in hell is incapable of photosyntesizing

[dusk laurel]

itd be funny if they tried making settlements above hell to collect water from the abyss,,,

[raven brook]

I feel triassic or permian tbh

[wanton pendant]

I wonder why.

[raven brook]

Notably hot periods of earth's history

[sinful adder]

Ok I see

[raven brook]

Which, given

The Sun

yeah

[dusk laurel]

late permian was so fucked

[raven brook]

carboniferous was also really hot

but alot more moist

and humid

[thick slate]

they should just invent the lightbulb

[raven brook]

and it was actually really cold in some places

[spare pier]

Yeah no I lowkey think they did that

[raven brook]

Iirc theres evidence of

snow actually having existed in some areas

[spare pier]

And I also think they later had like

[gritty summit]

A thought struck me.
The Zoologist is a werefox,complete with fox compulsions.
Perhaps there's a reason why there's no chicken town pet...

[sinful adder]

Hell would be pretty bright from the lava glow

So photosynthesis is ok

[thick slate]

yea but its lava

[spare pier]

Bro

That's

Not

[dusk laurel]

this is how we'll get a mist ocean equivalent in cal...

[spare pier]

How photosynthesis works

[thick slate]

ehh

[wanton pendant]

Azafure is spiritually Dutch. If anything happens to the cave roof, they are monumentally doomed.

[gritty summit]

Photosynthesis requires specific microwave frequencies,not just light.

[sinful adder]

Huh?

Oh

[thick slate]

microwave

really

[gritty summit]

Light's microwave.

[sinful adder]

I mean black body radiation contains those frequencies

[gritty summit]

Anyways,photosynthesis specifically needs solar radiation.

[thick slate]

no it doesnt

[spare pier]

MASSIVE water industries to siphon and purify water from the Abyss, specially during the Crusade

[sinful adder]

Yeah that's wrong

[thick slate]

visible light isnt

which is what plants eat

[spare pier]

Eh I think it'd be like immensely different

[sinful adder]

Most kinds of light work for photosynthesis because most sources of light have the needed frequencies

[wanton pendant]

Now I'm imagining Calamitas was given her orders to destroy Ilmeris and she's looking at it like "it's surrounded by HOW MUCH WATER!?"

[thick slate]

i think lava wouldnt work because it is lava

[dusk laurel]

yeah i was just jesting

[spare pier]

The only common thread would be Abyss Water

The way I view it, it'd be just a specialized industry for water siphoning

[wanton pendant]

Also, the Abyss should have brine, so they'd have to purify it.

[sinful adder]

Also lava seems to be harmless as long as you don't touch it so like what's with that

[dusk laurel]

🐌

[spare pier]

I mean quite frankly, because it's a game and having to deal with a heat mechanic would be ass

[sinful adder]

I'd imagine there would be plenty of water in most places as a result of aquifers all over the underground. There's a lot in vanilla and that's without their natural ability to refill that you see in real life

[sinful adder]

True

[thick slate]

i want my calamity farming game

[manic coral]

tbf there is sort of an in-lore reason but i will refrain from talking on this

[wanton pendant]

Livingdew Valley.

[light linden]

I do wonder what the jungle was like during the draconic era

[spare pier]

You NEVER told me this btw

[manic coral]

i literally did though

[spare pier]

You always said that you had a reason as to why Terraria lava is relatively harmless to irl lava and never said me why

If you did I forgot

[manic coral]

you indeed forgor

[sinful adder]

Can you
Tell us

[dusk laurel]

no you see brimmy specifically went up to the water treatment plants and blew them up so that water would flow down from the abyss and this 100% makes sense despite the nature of elementals wanting to spread their domain mhm

[spare pier]

Fire

[dusk laurel]

okay but being more serious itd be fun to have a section in the crags or cavern layer near the abyss that yk does smth with the abyss water that isnt just mist ocean 2

[spare pier]

True

[dusk laurel]

wtf pfp change

right before my eyes

[spare pier]

I need something else I'm not happy with this one

I haven't been feeling fishy lately

[sinful adder]

Cute pfp

[glacial rampart]

thats a nice pfp

i feel glad, something good is going to happen today

[sinful adder]

I think probably the easiest explanation is to have the crags biome spawn dripping water from ceilings

Like that's just a natural thing from the abyss above

[thick slate]

city of tears real

city of sears

[spare pier]

There's one I've been kinda sitting on but also with The Chinese One showing up that feels weird

[sinful adder]

Of course it would turn to steam upon hitting the ground

So the air would be full of like, something between scalding steam and fog?

Sauna biome

[long bloom]

like an ocean of mist..

[thick slate]

fog is coming

[long bloom]

wrong
hog is coming

[dusk laurel]

steampunk water treatment plant next to the abyss...

[sinful adder]

Like the biome is somehow
Fog... Bound....

[dusk laurel]

💣

[atomic locust]

[pulsar ocean]

City of seals

[gritty summit]

Hol' up. I just saw the Stylist's gibs.
Does she wear a wig?
Her head gib is mostly bald with a hacked-up mess,while her hair comes off as a single intact piece.

[long bloom]

whar

[pulsar ocean]

Is terrarian > xeroc if cosmolight allows us to make it so the sun never shows up again

[spare pier]

That's not how Cosmolight works

[pulsar ocean]

Doesn’t it freeze time

[eager bluff]

i dont know how to explain to you that even if it was changing the flow of time.

the sun is still there

the sun does not despawn

[pulsar ocean]

In game

[spare pier]

My general idea is just that Bakidon makes a time bubble around you that makes you and anything around you move faster

[hollow pivot]

I think Bakidon and Cosmolight must change how fast your brain moves and comprehends stuff but you have to use a lot of focus to use it so you can't use it during combat.

[agile matrix]

i mean if i go to sleep time goes faster so like

same theorem but backwards

im More Awake

Bakidon and Cosmolight make me Woke

[thick slate]

cocaine

[icy veldt]

Meth, just like what Yharim's soldiers used!

[light linden]

I mean historically didn't soldiers use stimulants for long shifts?

[split mortar]

They both work in fights tho iirc

[hollow pivot]

I'm talking about the lore not about the gameplay.

[split mortar]

And why should the lore deviate like that randomly from the gameplay

[hollow pivot]

Also I'm pretty sure in-game to use them you have to hold them hold so you can't do anything other than have summons.

[split mortar]

P sure bakidon stops time for a while not just while its out cause else thats useless gameplay wise as well

And iirc cosmolight can do it indefinitely

[hollow pivot]

Thing is, giving the Terrarian Chaos Control is kinda overpowered.

[split mortar]

Chaos control except it doesnt affect people isnt as overkill

Which

Is what it does in game

[cosmic zenith]

Let's just not address Cosmolight and Bakidon

We really don't need lore for items that clearly were made solely for the sake of player convenience

[hollow pivot]

So they're Donor Item logic?

[split mortar]

Yeah you dont have to

[cosmic zenith]

Not everything needs to be explained

[split mortar]

Let people use their imagination

[leaden bridge]

stips how dare you be reasonable

[raven brook]

I'm unsure of how this would ever be communicated ingame anyways so i assume it's more of a headcanon if anything

Like where would you even fit in the lore of how these 2 specific items work exactly

[leaden bridge]

shift to lore, of course

[leaden bridge]

hey i actually have enough of these written to be like funny about it. name any non summon vanilla weapon. these are for ccr, so expect ccr

[hollow pivot]

The ascension ritual should be shift-to-lore for Androomba Banner trust.

[unreal belfry]

palladium pike

[leaden bridge]

can i steal this

[hollow pivot]

Steal what?

[leaden bridge]

rebels r the wulfrum rebels

your idea

[long bloom]

sleepy octopod

[hollow pivot]

You can steal the idea of the Ascension Ritual being shift-to-lore for Androomba banner.

[leaden bridge]

thank you

all of these have been written straight from my mind with no editing

[long bloom]

peam

[agile matrix]

what about uhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[unreal belfry]

sticky grenade

[agile matrix]

seedler

[leaden bridge]

no sticky grenade im afraid because the vanilla wiki has it under everything so i havent gotten there

[hollow pivot]

What is the lore for Flymeal?

[unreal belfry]

what about nromal grenades

[leaden bridge]

oh thats a really good pick

[leaden bridge]

neither

for some reason

[hollow pivot]

So Flymeal has the souls of 5 stinkbugs?

[leaden bridge]

yes

[hollow pivot]

What are we cooking?

[leaden bridge]

actually no i lied i have grenade

[unreal belfry]

hell yeah

[spare pier]

This but unironically

[long bloom]

what about ko cannon

[hollow pivot]

Bouncy Boulder lore?

[leaden bridge]

not a weapon

[agile matrix]

the lore for Celebration (not MK2)

[dusk laurel]

hokma...

[spare pier]

I just come up with stuff I can really

[leaden bridge]

sorry i was very tired after like 20 page of melee weapons

[pulsar ocean]

titanium sword

[agile matrix]

this is not lore

this is just. How Its Found

[leaden bridge]

oh oops.

[agile matrix]

we're (All Of Calamity) Killing you.

[leaden bridge]

some are weaker. i cant allow myself to edit them. blame red for making so many swords

[leaden bridge]

.

[hollow pivot]

Terragrim lore?

[cosmic zenith]

Just let people know it's your headcanon :p

[leaden bridge]

weapon attunement is further expanded on other entries!

[long bloom]

stip how's 2.2 goin

[cosmic zenith]

It's going

[hollow pivot]

Tizona lore?

[cosmic zenith]

I've been working on it all day long basically

[leaden bridge]

not real

[long bloom]

damn

well remember to take breaks

[leaden bridge]

this is a very hard game because the best entries r on really random bullshit because its genuinely like what i could come up with on the spot

[long bloom]

uhhhh

chain knife

[long bloom]

THE MOLE PEOPLE 🔥

wait did you also do tools

[hollow pivot]

Do the 3DS weapons have lore?

[leaden bridge]

i did not do tools

[long bloom]

damn

[leaden bridge]

i did not do anything not currently in game as of 1.4.4

[long bloom]

no shadewood hammer lore

[leaden bridge]

(i missed some 1.4.5 weapons because i started before it released

[leaden bridge]

you know how much shit i have to come up with for making lore for the same thing five times

i went insane with melee beacuse it has the wood swords and the ore swords and the hardmode ore swords and the hardmode ore spears and then ranger had bows and repeater snad like its painful

[long bloom]

gold broadsword lore

[wanton pendant]

Lore discussion seems to have hit new levels on insanity.

[brazen coral]

gilded proboscis lore???

[hollow pivot]

Gilded Proboscis is like the royal scepter for the Dragonfolly King.

[long bloom]

[leaden bridge]

im afraid i have done no calamity weapons

because there are many

[hollow pivot]

Like this.

[dusk laurel]

-50 karma

[light linden]

y'know

[hollow pivot]

That could be a fun rework for the Gilded Proboscis eventually. It's like Royal Gel but cool, it lets you summon and control Draconic Swarmers and lets you do Dragonfolly King stuff.

[light linden]

random thought I just had, did draedon actually ever make any anti pollution tech?

[leaden bridge]

you have to keep this in mind

[long bloom]

unknown

[hollow pivot]

I think Draedon said “I can make anti-pollution tech but I won't because science.”

[light linden]

no not quite

[long bloom]

i mean
basically

[dusk laurel]

i imagine he wouldve done it in azafure

[light linden]

he said he doesn't see the point in reducing emissions but also doesn't want to let an opportunity for a scientific breakthrough be squandered

Direct quote from page 2 of the underworld log
"Reducing the pollution the city creates, particularly from forging, is a goal Yharim wishes for me to prioritize. I see little need in it, yet it is a field of study few in this world have delved into. I refuse to squander an opportunity for scientific breakthrough."

[hollow pivot]

Where others see radiation poisoning killing their family, Draedon sees massive science bugs to experiment on.

[pulsar mural]

How tall is yharim? Like 9 feet isn’t he

[barren mortar]

yeah

[long bloom]

exactly 9 feet as far as we know

[hollow pivot]

Here's his current design. (9ft)

[dusk laurel]

hes 8-9 ft but this design wont be used for yharim

[robust osprey]

he is 1 yharm tall

[robust osprey]

umbdeath

[dusk laurel]

the path of destiny continues

[hollow pivot]

Ultrakill ahh measurements.

[sudden barn]

mmmm cake

[leaden bridge]

you guys get a teaser

[brazen coral]

I love stardust dragon he’s so frienddddd

[noble falcon]

Theory
The frost legion was created in an attempt to deter Yharim’s yearly attempt to steal Christmas

[hollow pivot]

Frost Legion is actually Wulfrum Bots that have been disguised to appear to be Snowmen in snowy climates as wulfrum bots' green and brown really stand out in white snow.

[wanton pendant]

Christmas isn't real.
The true answer?
The snow mafia.

[long bloom]

permafrost made them while drunk and they've spent the last 23 years terrorizing peaceful villagers in the countryside

[hollow pivot]

Permafrost used Permadrunk on Snow Legion.
It's Super-Effective!

[sinful adder]

So the pillar weapons were used by fovos?

[raven brook]

no they were used by his twin brother movos

[neon thicket]

This actually happens in game

[leaden bridge]

well, abstractly made by him in some way

[raven brook]

Movos didn't approve of his twin brothers heinous acts and instead went on to work as a simple farmer of root vegetables

[leaden bridge]

you figure out the rest

[raven brook]

Unfortunately because they look the fucking same he was shot and killed during the dragons vs moonlord war becasue they thought he was the evi guy

[agile matrix]

"All people of -ovos suffix kill approximately hundreds of people every year" is actually statistical anomaly, Fovos, who killed thousands of people, was an outlier and should not have been counted*
*former was "skewed stats"

[icy veldt]

This is why nuance is important, smh

[long bloom]

dragonslayer georg was an outlier adn should not have been counted

[agile matrix]

THATS the quote.

[long bloom]

no you have to include the typo
it's in the original post

[real silo]

Foivos like the greek guitarist

[icy veldt]

What if Movos was originally named Mobius but his name went through the same sound changes that turned Phobos into Fovos

[agile matrix]

wouldnt it be movius

or something like that

[icy veldt]

Phobos -> Fovos

[agile matrix]

Movius

titan of moving

[wanton pendant]

Morbius.

[icy veldt]

Mortarion

[agile matrix]

actually, insane headcanon i just cooked: fovos is part of a species called "titans", who hold control over a signifcant part of the universe but not all of it at once

fovos is the titan of space, hence why he showed up outta fuckin nowhere

[wanton pendant]

Issue: Homer might sue for copyright infringement.

[hollow pivot]

No it turns out that he was killed by the Terrarian and the dragons actually did kill Fovos.

[wanton pendant]

(Fovos isn't from space.)

[untold forge]

Movos

Split the ilmeris sea 😭

[wanton pendant]

With a beyblade?

[untold forge]

YES LMFAOOOOO

[dense lynx]

Do False Gods exsist?

[wanton pendant]

How do you mean?

[wanton pendant]

What do you mean by that?

[graceful warren]

Technically all gods are false gods

[dense lynx]

Ones to claim to be gods but actually aren't (didnt consume Auric Soul)

[wanton pendant]

Well, there are beings mistaken as gods.

[wanton pendant]

-John Atheist.

[dense lynx]

Torch God might be false god

[wanton pendant]

Torch God might not be real, or might actually be Xeroc.

[robust osprey]

DoG quite literally calling hinself a god:

[dense lynx]

It is canon tho

[robust osprey]

it may be canon but as carbon monoxide poisoning-induced hallucinations

my terrarian simply gets high and hallucinates torch god fight

and starts using the right torches after that

and just coincidentaly has more luck

[dense lynx]

Its been told every event except Event Moons and OOA are canon

Or is frost legion even canon?

[robust osprey]

idk

probably

probably not

[thick slate]

frost legion most vital event

[wanton pendant]

If something is a reference to something else, or dedicated to someone, it's not canon.

[robust osprey]

and eclipse is like

canon-ish?

[dense lynx]

Martians are somehow Canon

[robust osprey]

why wouldnt they

theyre just martians

[wanton pendant]

Somehow?
They're right there!

[thick slate]

ur a martian

[robust osprey]

you are too taylor

[dense lynx]

What is newMartian probe bestiary entry?

[robust osprey]

you don't fool anyone

[thick slate]

greenest person ever

[dense lynx]

Cause who would go and slay 10 probes just for it?

[agile matrix]

suuuure they are

[wanton pendant]

(They're not.)

[agile matrix]

also you can be the god/titan of something while not being from it methinks

[thick slate]

isnt he from the distortion

[agile matrix]

xeroc is not from the sun :)

[wanton pendant]

Not a god.

[agile matrix]

ik

[wanton pendant]

Not even from the same dimension.

[robust osprey]

he is, infact, not from the sun

[agile matrix]

sure he is :)

see you get it

[robust osprey]

no he actually isnt

[thick slate]

xeroc is from his house

[robust osprey]

unless I mistook your statement as an ironic one

[agile matrix]

i mean im not wrong but like

my crackheadcanon implies that like

[robust osprey]

moonlord isnt from space either

he is from evil distortion

[agile matrix]

things can be titled after other things, while not being from the thing

[wanton pendant]

Ok?
Fovos doesn't have anything to do with space, apart from being imprisoned there later in life.

[thick slate]

didnt he conquer some shit

[agile matrix]

space as in the distance between locations

not as in Cosmos

[thick slate]

like palkia

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, he's got nothing to do with that either.

[robust osprey]

you dont say "it comes from space" refering to the geometrical space

come on

[agile matrix]

i literally do

[thick slate]

is fovos a water type

[agile matrix]

he IS a squid

[wanton pendant]

It's a squid, so no.

[agile matrix]

What

[thick slate]

who tf is this

[robust osprey]

squid

that throw hands

[thick slate]

noo

it has no hand

[wanton pendant]

That's because they've been thrown.

[agile matrix]

"all squid pokemon are not water types" factoid actually just statistical error; Grappaloct, who is not a water type nor a squid, is an outlier and should not have been counted

[thick slate]

oh

[robust osprey]

wooper literally throws hands too

[agile matrix]

grappaloct

factually not a squid

[robust osprey]

ok

moonlord is an octopus then

what now huh

[glacial rampart]

Yeah

[agile matrix]

he's not he is a squid

[robust osprey]

nop he is an octopus

[agile matrix]

and malamar is not water type they're dark psychic

what the fuck

[wanton pendant]

Then why is Squidward an octopus?

[agile matrix]

why is Patrick not Saint Patty?

[wanton pendant]

He's not Welsh.

[agile matrix]

idk did we check

[wanton pendant]

Wales isn't underwater, you're thinking of whales.

[dense lynx]

Isnt he from beyond the stars?

[wanton pendant]

No, Yharim's just ignorant.

[agile matrix]

unrelated but isnt wales like 75% islands

[wanton pendant]

Do you... not know where Wales is?

It's a peninsula.

[agile matrix]

if geography was a class i would fail it

[agile matrix]

oh im not that wrong

its got a lot of water

thats islandy enough

[wanton pendant]

It's part of an island.

But at that point you're calling Northern Ireland an island.

[agile matrix]

its islandlike

[wanton pendant]

At this rate, you'll say France is an island.

[agile matrix]

no its too continential to be an island

[wanton pendant]

Is Spain an island by your metric?

[agile matrix]

... hm

no its got too much rome in it

[wanton pendant]

Rome?

In Spain?

[sinful adder]

No actually this is technically correct because the stars you see in the sky orbit terraria along with the sun and moon

Like rings basically

[wanton pendant]

You know that they were in Wales too, right?

[wanton pendant]

???

[sinful adder]

For fovos

He's from beyond the stars technically

Because terraria stars are tiny and a bunch of them orbit the planet

[wanton pendant]

I fail to see your point.

[agile matrix]

no the british isles are really hard to get in

[wanton pendant]

He's not from space.

[wanton pendant]

Careful.

[sinful adder]

The distortion is in space

[agile matrix]

both Napoleon and The Guy struggled to get there

[wanton pendant]

???

[agile matrix]

it is in a space and uses space to contain itself

[sinful adder]

Someone told me it was a physical place in the universe

That is "distorted"

[wanton pendant]

Don't know who told you that.

'It hails from an incomprehensible fissure of broken spacetime which leeches energy from our dimension to sustain itself.'
Pretty clear that it's extradimensional.

[sinful adder]

Huh

If that fissure is in a physical location then it's still in the same universe/dimension

I think it would make more sense if it were a region of space that's in a lower energy state. Sort of like the idea of vacuum decay

[icy veldt]

Spain was taken over by the Visigoths. You're thinking of the Ostrogoths who took over Italy

[sinful adder]

Actually I've got an idea for how that could work in terms of a consistent set of physics

AND it would explain why distortion portals look like cracks

I'll explain later

[icy veldt]

Maybe space needs more fiber in its diet, if it has such a nasty fissure

[sinful adder]

So imagine that the universe is like a big block of ice or crystal with a bunch of bubbles in it packed closely together. The bubbles can be full of oil or they can be empty. It takes energy to break through the crystal and connect two bubbles, but you can burn the oil for energy. If someone keeps burning the oil for energy, they'll end up with an empty bubble and be able to break through to nearby oil bubbles

The distortion is an empty bubble and normal space is oil bubbles

[sinful adder]

Unrelated: I think I figured out how pylons can work without breaking the lore

[leaden bridge]

Well of course they're magical teleportation devices like the other fifty that already existed

[sinful adder]

They let you teleport to someone you're attuned to

[leaden bridge]

Okay that's wild

[spare pier]

What

Where does that come from?

[sinful adder]

And npc happiness is attunent

It's an explanation I made up

That covers everything

[leaden bridge]

But why

[spare pier]

But

[leaden bridge]

What are you covering

[spare pier]

That's already covered?

[sinful adder]

Why people didn't use pylons everywhere is why

[spare pier]

Pylons already don't break the story because they need a happy settlement

[leaden bridge]

They won't, even rely on happiness after 1.4.5 but like. It's meaningless

[leaden bridge]

i mean it's like

We don't know what they r or where they come from really

maybe they uh, were? But, that requires on, each place willingly wanting to be part of the pylon network

I don't see how they're any more problematic than the conches or magic mirror

[spare pier]

Also you can just stipulate they have an arbitrary distance limit you don't see ingame because the general area isn't big enough

Boom

[long bloom]

you can just what?

[leaden bridge]

it's also like, unless you want to chalk it up to gameplay the infrastructure required for teleporters is actually very simple to set up for anyone with competence

[spare pier]

Teleporters are a fairly recent development and there's a lot of skeptcism surrounding it

[leaden bridge]

I don't really believe pylons would be any more problematic than them if you're worried places are too connected or something

[spare pier]

Anyways, just this

Ez

[leaden bridge]

I can see the first part but not the second because teleportation is commonplace already and there's nothing indicating they're a different kind so I don't think people would be weird about it

[sinful adder]

I like the attunement idea more because it's less contrived. If pylons could connect any happy settlement, they'd make most other forms of transportation obsolete. People would be able to trade between any part of the world effortlessly in times of peace

[leaden bridge]

The idea the player is attuned to an ensemble of like 20 silly videogame one note creatures is very funny to me

[sinful adder]

It doesn't have to be full attunement. It can be whatever amount of attunement you get by having a bond to a person

And I think pylons depending on the bonds between people is narratively interesting, especially in calamity where we already have magic dependent on soul bonds (auric)

[long bloom]

how do you think attunement works

genuinely curious

[hollow pivot]

What if Pylons cost energy of the user and they have a weight limit?

[leaden bridge]

It attunes the things

I expand greatly on these in calamity community remix' vanilla weapon lore coming next update

[untold forge]

Neuron activated 😭

[sinful adder]

Hold on gotta go for a bit

Ok so I imagine attunement is like. The power of love and friendship

But ALSO

[hollow pivot]

Chat would Sea Remain armor be called Remainmail?

[sinful adder]

To be fully attuned to someone is to know them as well as you know yourself

So you don't have to have a traditional idea of love for someone to be attuned, you can also have a different but equally strong kind of bond

[leaden bridge]

It's not mail

Couldn't then like two guys go around the world making friends in places and placing pylons and then that would allow their friends to move to where they are and then they can make friends there and then it can snowball

[sinful adder]

Yes, but only if they are good enough friends.

[leaden bridge]

So like it's still funny that the player is good enough friends with the funny terraria creatures

You know i think their range might be the most problematic part here

They'd be hardly fit for big settlements unless you put multiple

[sinful adder]

Yeah

Oh and I thought of another sensible requirement

You also have to be attuned to the environment around you

You explicitly can't put multiple because it has to attune to the biome that it's in

And only one pylon can do that

Hmm, is that for the entire world?

[leaden bridge]

Terrarian canonically attuned to mushrooms, shimmer, hallow,

hell

[sinful adder]

Well, maybe it's more that the residents have to attune to their environment, and the user has to be attuned to the residents

[long bloom]

interesting
here's the canon explanation

[leaden bridge]

That'd still be funny as you can mix and match however you want

And pets count towards the 2 npc minimum requirement

Dog attuned to the eternal warmth of the underworld

Where demons never see the stars,

[sinful adder]

Pets are everyone's friend

And therefore attuned to everyone

[leaden bridge]

Crazy

[sinful adder]

This is compatible with my idea of attunement as long as your "song" can change and can be different levels of compatible

If you've ever met a dog who loves everyone, you'll know what I mean

[untold forge]

[real glen]

why npcs dont use pylons to teleport to other town

[hard steeple]

They're happy away from eachother

[sinful adder]

Do you mean in my explanation or in the current lore?

[thick slate]

why would they want to know ur explanation

[pulsar ocean]

Ur always so right

[thick slate]

its a burden....

[wind kelp]

maybe cs hes the lore writer stupid

[split mortar]

Ben isn’t a lore writer

[robust osprey]

theres like

2 (3??????) lore writers

[split mortar]

Stip and the archonlings the only ones afaik
Idk if they count as multiple

[compact ridge]

Chat how strong do yall think Yharim is without his armor

[robust osprey]

I was saying 3 cuz

kinda??? I guess????????

[split mortar]

Ah right

[split mortar]

Idk

[pulsar ocean]

6 or

[feral skiff]

normal person level

[pulsar ocean]

I’d solo

[compact ridge]

I mean he’s atleast like the prime of humans bc yknow he’s gotta be buff as shit with all that experience

Plus he’s always in his physical prime

And he has magic still without armor

[split mortar]

Auric armour before exo upgrades like
Only acted as armour iirc

So

[compact ridge]

Yeah that’s what I thought too

Defense + rejection that’s it

[split mortar]

We know offensively he would be like yharon tier anyways

[compact ridge]

So he just punches you so hard you explode

I wonder how durable he is without armor, probably not too much

[mighty zenith]

not very durable but he's still a very fucking experienced and skilled fighter

[compact ridge]

Yeah i assume without armor he’s like getting shot by a bullet and dying assuming he doesn’t catch it or dodge it

His armor probably does a lot of the heavy lifting but I refuse to believe he’s just a normal guy under there he’s gotta be fast as hell right

My Yharim glaze knows no limits

He may be a bum but he’s my bum and he’s strong as hell

[split mortar]

If he was that durable i dont think he would be surviving how much he exerts

[compact ridge]

Oh yeah fair

Correction: killed by a bullet from whatever the hell the terrarian decides to invent that day out of random bullshit

Average gun prolly not doing too much

Ahh yes my zonkslumper I made out of pure auric ore, it may be impossible to hold but that’s why I have this thing called wires

[split mortar]

Ok tyrannys end i can see it killing without armour yeah

[compact ridge]

I love characterizing my terrarian as a mad scientist that doesn’t even know how they invent the shit they make but like they do it anyways

Draedon asks how they made miracles matter and the response is just idk

[robust osprey]

"well you see...it was a miracle!"

[compact ridge]

HENCE THE NAMEEEE

Draedon then proceeds to pull out the pulse rifle

Anyways powerscaler brain active id say he’s like maki and Toji in jjk bc they’re supposed to be the peak of human physicality (alongside having super sense and air jumping powers but like Yharim has magic and dragon love powers so)

Though I don’t see either of them cutting mountains in half with a sword so he’s prolly stronger

[compact ridge]

Also other question bc I keep forgetting: why exactly is auric metal like that like why does it have rejection and is super powerful

[split mortar]

Its dragon metal

Rejects you cause you not auric related like yharim or yharon

And is super strong cause

Dragon metal

[compact ridge]

I know why it rejects but how the hell is dragon metal made

[split mortar]

We see it in game

Yharon dies

It appears