lore-discussion

[graceful warren]

Oh my bad yeah the lore video i watched didn't really go over his lore

[long bloom]

shocking

[wanton pendant]

Ravager wasn't killed by Yharim?
Agnus was, and then was revived as Ravager.

[plucky juniper]

so in short, its more like Agnus was a very nice and selfless individual who used his otherwise horrifying power for the good of other people

but unfortunately, because yharim can only see gods and their supporters as one-dimensional evil, Agnus was killed

[graceful warren]

So basically the ravanger before he was killed was a decent person. I mean he let himself die to save his cult members

[long bloom]

no it was

read the new lore item

[thick slate]

new woke lore

[hollow pivot]

Yharim killed the Ravager.

[plucky juniper]

unfortunately, Agnus accidentally drove one guy insane, and some of the survivors of his cult took the wrong message from that, which led to their resurrection of Agnus as this abominable monstrosity we now know as Ravager

[thick slate]

yea but hes kinda like a cool symbiote now so

[hollow pivot]

Was a cool symbiote or do you think that the Ravager is a Symbiote?

[plucky juniper]

i think what they mean is

they fight like a symbiote

[thick slate]

they gloopy with it

[plucky juniper]

with the insane gloopy shit they pull off in their fights

[hollow pivot]

Why does the Barbarian thinking keep getting a blue heart?

[thick slate]

their arms change into different weapons

love that

[thick slate]

because i love him with my entire heart

[hollow pivot]

How is that symbiotic in any way shape or form?

[wanton pendant]

Do you not know who Venom is?

[plucky juniper]

that barbarian keeps giving me the exact same vibes as this image

[hollow pivot]

What is the Martian Invasion in-lore?

[upper warren]

“Their world got fucked up and is now inhospitable so they invade so they have a planet to live on”

[graceful warren]

I mean that makes sense

Joke on them tho because our world is also fucked

Just imagine being an alien and the first thing you see the crismon or the corruption

[upper warren]

I wonder if mars had a world soul

[hollow pivot]

Mars might just be a massive asteroid in-lore.

[upper warren]

Possible, I don’t think the writers go too in to detail on anything in space

[plucky juniper]

my guess is that the astral infection was involved with that

[graceful warren]

From what I can remember the astral infection isn't even from our own universe

Nor is the DoG

[long bloom]

astral is from the universe

but nothing in the distortion is

[upper warren]

Astral infection is a result of aging stars

[plucky juniper]

you're thinking either of old lore or astralgeldon lore

[long bloom]

astrageldon isn't canon btw

[graceful warren]

Yeah im thinking old lore

Astrageldon is cannon to me man

[hollow pivot]

Braelor?

[upper warren]

I’m going to bed now, if you respond to my questions at any point please ping me so I see it tomorrow.

[light linden]

so bit of a random thought

how hot do calamitas's flames burn?

[long bloom]

as hot as artemis's engines

which i realize is not helpful

[atomic locust]

artemis mentioned

[stiff berry]

PICH

[long bloom]

pich jumpscare

[atomic locust]

HELEP

sorry the word "artemis" spawned me

[stiff berry]

GRASPS YOU

[atomic locust]

BWAAAHHHH

dont kill me otherwise who's gonna make more braelor x signus x statis yaoi now

[stiff berry]

[atomic locust]

THE FFACE?

why did it type

like i was stuttering

t-t-the f-face

[stiff berry]

[atomic locust]

stIOP

[stiff berry]

there is actually the face in calart

[long bloom]

[atomic locust]

the face..

[stiff berry]

HAHAH

[atomic locust]

[stiff berry]

[atomic locust]

im artemismaxxing

artemislings

[cloud ibex]

[stiff berry]

HELP[ ?

[atomic locust]

i should talk here more often, quite coincidence i spawned the moment someone typed "artemis" in chat

[long bloom]

i had no idea you were in calmain tbh

[atomic locust]

i am everywher (not rlly

[atomic locust]

i joined quite a while ago but i was lowkey shy to talk

[long bloom]

understandable

[atomic locust]

[agile matrix]

i know that name

where do i know this name

[atomic locust]

what naem

[light linden]

just hit me

do we know of any notable mountains in calamity?

[long bloom]

no

[agile matrix]

yours

[atomic locust]

oh me

[agile matrix]

where do i know you .

[atomic locust]

im not sure if im even that relevant lmao

i dont know

i exist on twitter and tumblr

drawing boss yuri

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile matrix]

ohhhh your the retinazer and artemis guy

[atomic locust]

yep

[agile matrix]

riiiiiight thats where i know you

cool art

[atomic locust]

HEELP thats how im being recognized from

ty

[stiff berry]

post bugs in update talk with me bro

[long bloom]

i also recognize you as jane eyeball yuri

[atomic locust]

yes,, i shall

[atomic locust]

everyone knows me because i draw eyeball yuri

even tofu mentioned the devs themselves saw my eye yuri art

oughtghhh

[plucky juniper]

too slow chucklenuts

[stiff berry]

well duh we're friends of course ive seen it

[atomic locust]

HEELP

yeah i mean you but

you told me the others yknow

[stiff berry]

wrong channel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[atomic locust]

i was like flabbergasted!!!!

[plucky juniper]

gotcha

[stiff berry]

youre a flabbergasted

[plucky juniper]

but yes. gondal.

[light linden]

you.

[atomic locust]

[light linden]

want a bnnuy?

[west plume]

wat

[atomic locust]

[stiff berry]

japer ❗

[long bloom]

she doesn't know

[atomic locust]

imsurprised so many ppl know me though

blehhghuhg

[light linden]

random but if draedon managed to stabilize miracle matter what do y'all think he'd call it?

[long bloom]

miraculous material

[eager bluff]

some nerd shit

[robust osprey]

auric-infused core or smth

[plucky juniper]

exomatter?

[robust osprey]

idk I'm not a NERD

[long bloom]

yes you are

[robust osprey]

WHAT THE FUCK

[long bloom]

you're in #lore-discussion

[robust osprey]

...

DAMNIT!!

okay you win

THIS TIME!!

[eager bluff]

run that back

[robust osprey]

TRUE MELEE NERD AND DRAEDON NERD ARE TWO COMPLETLY SEPARATED THINGS!!!!!!

[eager bluff]

ah but you only specified nerd

[robust osprey]

...

GOSH

DARNIT

okay you win

:c

[light linden]

random thought

draedon mentions we are a catalyst of a new era

what's the name of said new era?

[eager bluff]

there isnt one

it hasnt happened yet

[agile matrix]

idk the Awesome Era

[flint gulch]

susie calls ralsei a nerd

[compact ridge]

I’m going insane 70% of calamity players on tiktok are obsessed with old lore and slander new lore solely bc it scales lower oh my god bruhhh

[long bloom]

completely expected

[hollow pivot]

Green Slime can't beat Goku? 0/10 game.

[compact ridge]

I saw a vid about calamitas soloing fiction and whenever people mentioned the fact that calamity is only continental the OP just said it was bc the devs can’t write their lore right and I then understood that arguing with a fool only makes 2 fools

[terse moss]

Does it even scale lower?

Xeroc is like up there

and Yharim is like the same

[terse moss]

When was SCal ever anywhere near the top of anything

[long bloom]

old lore xeroc was nearly god from the bible

[terse moss]

Sure, but thats boring and lame?

Like then what

[long bloom]

it is

[terse moss]

you gonna fistfight him

[long bloom]

but it does scale higher

[terse moss]

you going to power of friendship away jesus christ

[long bloom]

idek if a xeroc fight was planned back then

[terse moss]

Also, the characters are like city level rn, at least like SCal, Yharim, and the gang

maybe island at most

did they used to be contintental?

[long bloom]

yharim is said to be able to cleave a small mountain in half with one swing of his blade

[terse moss]

New or old?

[long bloom]

new
old lore yharim slammed his fist on a table so hard it instantly killed everyone in the room

[terse moss]

Thats really funny tho, to be fair

[long bloom]

i'll let you decide which one is higher

[terse moss]

He slams his hand down and it sets off a nuke at his location

[hollow pivot]

Mountain Level only?

[terse moss]

He like stubs his toes and levels the entire military base

[long bloom]

true they should've kept it

[hollow pivot]

Who was in the room?

[compact ridge]

The original poster tried saying calamitas was OUTERVERSAL

[terse moss]

Compared to the area of effect of the weapons you have in game?

a mountain is quite large

[compact ridge]

Actually insane

[terse moss]

wild

actually delusional

[long bloom]

the lihzahrd elders

[hollow pivot]

@derangedlihzahrd is this true?

[compact ridge]

Game takes place on a single continent btw

[terse moss]

Me saying goku is street tier because he was stopped by a fire hydrant one time:

[compact ridge]

XD

[hollow pivot]

GT ain't canon.

[terse moss]

Nah that was super manga

against Zamasu

he also was hurt by a street lamp

[compact ridge]

neither is old lore so it’s the same argument

[long bloom]

calamitas's biggest feat is evaporating half of a small to medium sized sea
this was also true for old lore

[terse moss]

The point is you can find rediculous feats or anti feats for anyone

one off showings mean nothing

[hollow pivot]

When was this?

[terse moss]

Fight vs zamasu or merged zamasu in the manga

let me see if I can find it

[compact ridge]

Wait actually? I tried saying that (new lore) calamitas’s strongest feat was that and they said something about being able to burn dimensions lmao

Like what are you on

I don’t know hardly anything about old lore so

[long bloom]

that never happened 😭

what

literally just making shit up

[compact ridge]

LMAOOO

[long bloom]

wait

how much you wanna bet they read total calamity

[compact ridge]

TRUEEEE

Also said that Devourer could absorb god powers and destroy universes

[long bloom]

those are at least slightly true

[compact ridge]

Yeah I know but future bosses were never canon lol

[long bloom]

they were canon for exactly 2 weeks

[terse moss]

lol

[terse moss]

wait what is total calamity?

[long bloom]

ancient ass roleplay

has a wiki and stuff

[compact ridge]

Yeah

[long bloom]

which is somehow the best source on the internet for animated boss sprites

[terse moss]

huh

"Calamitas can burn dimensions" all hell naw

[compact ridge]

Exactly like what are we even talking about

[long bloom]

by ancient i mean like
2017-2018 i think

[terse moss]

[compact ridge]

Older than my little brother

Hilarious

[terse moss]

That feels illegal

[long bloom]

that was before i even played terraria at all

let alone cal

[terse moss]

I started calamity in like 2017 ish?

w\back when the exo blade was grey and they had the future fights

Like the Devourer of Universes and Ancient Doomsayer

[long bloom]

future bosses existed between august 16th 2018 and september 15th 2018

[terse moss]

Dang thats it?

thats crazy

[compact ridge]

Yeah they got killed fast

[terse moss]

that was back after SCal was the eyeball

[pulsar ocean]

Has it ever been that deep

[terse moss]

I remember it just following you, but I actually played in 2018 or 19 where it was the very very first arena version

and then after that was the death mode hit cap 💀

god that was awful

[long bloom]

idk i never seriously read it

[compact ridge]

I started playing terraria in like 2022, quit bc I thought it was boring bc of my garbage attention span, played it again when 1.4.4 came out and fell in love with it, I’m pretty young myself so I used to be a dumb Minecraft kiddie who thought it was 2D Minecraft lmao

[hollow pivot]

Why are there 2 Zamasus?

[compact ridge]

I’ve repented for my sins for pumping like 600 hours in a single month

[terse moss]

I think it might have been some afterimage shenanigans or something. I honestly haven't read the manga, I just know some specific bits and that oen stuck with me

[terse moss]

👀

[compact ridge]

My first calamity run had me OBSESSED

[terse moss]

4 hours of sleep a night, 20 hours of calamity a day

[compact ridge]

I’m still chasing that high lmao

[hollow pivot]

Maybe Zamasu used Ki to make the Hydrant stronger 🤷‍♂️

[terse moss]

for 30 days

[compact ridge]

genuinely

[terse moss]

My first run was 200 hours I think

back when Ugandan Knuckles and Bill Cypher were part of the Alchemist NPC mod

And astrum deus was 12 worms

[compact ridge]

I did a lot of dawdling and smaller stuff bc it was my second terraria run ever

[hollow pivot]

That sounds interesting.

[languid badge]

old deus 🥀

[terse moss]

Old dues had me tweaking

2 weeks of attempts

2 weeks straight during summer break

That and providence man

[compact ridge]

I also was able to WASH all of post moinlord bc I had the more zenith weapons mod, and I used a zenith yoyo to obliterate everything

I was also on classic lmao

[terse moss]

I was so bad at providence that I got an increased heart rate when her theme showed up as I was listening to the OST

[long bloom]

i think i won old deus by sheer luck

[terse moss]

I got folded like laundry

On the bright side, I basically never die to providence anymore

got all my learning done all at once lol

[terse moss]

🥀

[compact ridge]

My next run I’m doing is gonna be 1.5x all stats hyperdeath so that’ll be fun

[terse moss]

Hyperdeath?

[compact ridge]

Fargos hypermode and death

[terse moss]

huh

[compact ridge]

So 1.5x enemy and projectile speed too

[terse moss]

I have been running normal death and just doing addons lol

[terse moss]

oof thats rough

I gotta branch out more

death is too easy rn

[compact ridge]

Hey atleast I’m doing multiplayer so it won’t be too bad

[terse moss]

Fair

[compact ridge]

Plus my group is 6 people so

We do have limited respawns tho so that balances it a bit

[terse moss]

The hardest part about that is that the bosses (especially like DoG) are really designed for one person

you gotta be able to keep track of them and they act so erratically

especially with DoG who one shots with his head and is fast enough to not be reactable consistently

[compact ridge]

That’s why I’m like the hard carry of my team bc I have way more time actually playing hard runs

No offense to my team and all but one of my friends literally has only beaten base terraria, and it was a single time

[terse moss]

I keep trying to get my friends to play and then I go too fast and then they stop 😔

[compact ridge]

I don’t know why he insisted on joining such an interesting run

[compact ridge]

Opposite problem for me I keep trying to get my runs to last longer bc everyone just rushes bosses

[terse moss]

I can never get anyone to play, so when they do get on, I try to get as much done as possible, but that then leads to them getting disinterested, but the other option is going slow enough and playing rarely enough that it jsut never finishes

Especially since I am running a DnD campaign with those same people, if I have everyone together for several hours, its better to do DnD because thats harder to schedule

[compact ridge]

Yeah fair DnD is hell to schedule

[terse moss]

26 sessions in and almost a year of time

we are 1/7 way through the campaign

planning to finish it in 5-6 years ideally

[compact ridge]

I had a whole campaign fall apart bc of scheduling, planning on reworking the world I built into a way bigger module thing

[terse moss]

This is my first time DMing, so I jsut decided to go balls to the walls. I already have a few hundred pages of stats and lore and worlbuilding and session notes and whatnot

its impossible to organize the ever growing mountain of info

and I can't jsut remember it because we only play on breaks from college

[compact ridge]

Yeah I’m horrid at organizing my work I’ve only DM’d like 4 times and it was my second campaign

My first campaign was genuinely a fever dream I just threw whatever i wanted into it bc like fuck it it’ll be fun

The devourer of gods got killed by a camera and skeleton jr (yes the master mode pet) was the strongest being in existence, my party also killed a few gods on their way to kill a single normal dragon

Campaign was not even calamity based

Just had whatever I thought was cool at the time in it lmao

[split mortar]

Hey lore chat

[compact ridge]

Sup we are def talking about lore

[terse moss]

My capaign is a weird blend of calamity, ultrakill, risk of rain, jujutsu kiasen, expedition 33, and a bunch of random other stuff

[terse moss]

yes of course

loring it up

[split mortar]

Ive caused this place to be worse no worries

[compact ridge]

Trust

[compact ridge]

Before I write my new module I’m planning on doing a JJK mini campaign with like 3 of my closer friends

[terse moss]

I have been watching JJK and season 3 is so peak

Its so artsy

[compact ridge]

It is

I’ve read the whole series it’s pretty good

[terse moss]

I can't wait for this week's episode

The megumi slander will finally end

[compact ridge]

Sendai colony soon

[terse moss]

True

I can't wait for ||yuta v asmongold||

[compact ridge]

I’ve been waiting for years finally I’ll get to see bug kissing

[terse moss]

With how phenominal the fight scenes are, I am most excited for ||Hakari v Kashimo and Gojo v sukuna. Hell, we might even get Hakari vs Urame on screen lol||

I just hope they have the creative liberty to tweak some of the ending stuff a bit now that its not as rushed

[compact ridge]

|| PLEASE GIVE US ANIMATED HAKARI VS URAUME my goat deserves more screen time i <3 the ice enby, also i hope they do Nobara justice pleaseee ||

[terse moss]

True

the comeback needs to be more setup

[compact ridge]

Exactly

[terse moss]

||Literally just one cene of her twitching on the hospital bed and shoko looking up||

literally thats it

[compact ridge]

|| And like 3 hints she MIGHT JUST MAYBE be alive ||

[terse moss]

It would be so easy to fix

[compact ridge]

I know

[terse moss]

||I cannot wait to see Yuji's domain||

with the more artsy style that could be phenominal

[compact ridge]

||if we could get more clarification about his domain exactly that would be great||

[terse moss]

Even just a name

even just that

[compact ridge]

Yeah

[main marlin]

Hi

so

what's the deal with the Old Duke?

[pulsar ocean]

Who careeeees about bumgumi when’s the ||hakari vs kashimo|| fight

[long bloom]

dragon who was born riiiiiight after the dragon of faith took the last fragment of the world soul, so he got completely cucked out of having an auric soul

since dragon society sucks he also got kicked out of the aerie, and he understandably became super racist against dragonkind, going so far as to enslave weaker dragons and possibly even humans

ironically, not having an auric soul is what allowed him to outlive every auric dragon besides yharon

that and being ridiculously jacked

also note that he won't be a fishron in the future

[sinful adder]

Wait that's weird

[hollow pivot]

Okay that makes my theory stronger.

[long bloom]

what theory

[hollow pivot]

The Pigrons and Fishrons are descendants of Gloomborf like how the Wyverns are children of Vetrasyl.

But it kinda looked weird because new Old Duke looks like a wyvern pig rather than a pigron.

Headcanon is more accurate really, theory oversells it.

[long bloom]

they're descendants of the dragon of frost

[hollow pivot]

What?

[long bloom]

ancient triangleposting

[hollow pivot]

But pig=gluttony.

[sinful adder]

That can't be right

Duke fishron is obviously closest to an auric dragon and the fishrons and pigons are clearly related to duke

So the ancestor of Duke fishron must also be aquatic and kinda similar

That's why old Duke made sense in the first place

[pulsar ocean]

How

I think it would be really funny if Jared was a descendant of zeratros

[stiff berry]

im right you know

[warm gull]

grand cosmic snail

[balmy glacier]

how romantic 🥰

[barren mortar]

i have summoned a friend of mine who has some Opinions on the lore

he will show up eventually

[mighty zenith]

bro gave a warning like he summoned galactus

[barren mortar]

he has unfortunately declined for today

you are spared from his wrath

[barren mortar]

this man Really cares about lore

[agile matrix]

this is a terrible thing to tell me

im gonna be so objectively wrong they will kill me

[barren mortar]

well he is of the opinion that yharim was completely butchered recently

perhaps we will see someday

[agile matrix]

wait wdym

he’s always been chopped wdym recently

[random mulch]

perhaps they fell for the yharpaganda

[barren mortar]

this about sums up his thoughts

[agile matrix]

he’s never been a hero though

he’s, tmk, been just objectively a poor presense to have

if yharim didnt exist i argue we’d be in a lot better position

[barren mortar]

yeah

[agile matrix]

hold on righteous crusade????

for a lore enthusiast he seems to have failed to acknowledge yharims indiscriminate assault on like. ALL of godkind

he would kill a puppy if it was the god of dogs

[barren mortar]

no he acknowledged that

hence why he thinks yharim was ruined

i think hes going off of the old old lore

[agile matrix]

is he going off Jungle Tyrant, Old Godseeker, or Aerieresting Godseeker

[barren mortar]

probably old godseeker

[agile matrix]

okay so not ancient but not rewrite which is still chopped but not insanely so

[random mulch]

i don't think a hero would organize shock troopers with flamethrowers for burning civilians alive

[agile matrix]

i personally think yharim should be a bit more bold abt their victories than being a sad wet dog

but i have 6 minutes and cant phrase my opinion

tldr phrasing losses as victories and passively shifting blame to irregularities would give a more positive viewpoint rather than what would yharim do if he was betrayed and locked in time jail for 10000 years

[random mulch]

yharim was never intended to be a "hero", but he's one of the only sources of information and he genuinely sees himself as having done the right thing

[agile matrix]

for a guy who thinks he did the right thing, he really doesn’t make himself sound like that

[random mulch]

he's a bit depressed because he didn't get to kill every single god but also true

[agile matrix]

he oftentimes either sounds a. far too formal or b. far too critical

[barren mortar]

yeah i think my friend fell for the yharimganda

[agile matrix]

when really he should sound either passive aggressive (not in that way) or a bit cheek biting

[agile matrix]

another lost to the chudroganda

[random mulch]

a lot of the bosses do kinda exist due to yharim's own failures but yeah he should talk about his victories more

[agile matrix]

yuh you get it

ill scan a but more tmmrw ping me if you remember

[barren mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sound-the-car-alarm-cat-gif-9895924581726852336

[agile matrix]

❌

[random mulch]

maybe when the stone phone becomes a thing he can yap about his accomplishments a bit rather than only the bosses & some biomes

[split mortar]

Wasnt old lore yharim like
John evil

[barren mortar]

i dont know

maybe

he probably just fell for the propaganda

[random mulch]

manipulative character so good real people believe him

[split mortar]

Dont even think there was propaganda for old lore yharim he just sorta did shit iirc

[barren mortar]

i think he mixed the two

new and older yharim

[barren mortar]

high quality writing

[split mortar]

😭 also the statement of yharim with god powers being less destructive is like
What
You just went from super gold hitler to immortal ultra hitler with less morality what do you mean taking yharons soul would be less destructive, maybe not immediately as bad but the horrors will last much longer

[barren mortar]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

older yharim had no facade of righteousness, he was just fully invested in being vengeful and evil

i think he genuinely got his sources confused

[barren mortar]

yeah i don't know what hes on

hence why i chose to send him here

and he refused 😔

[wanton pendant]

They say that when Caesar declined a crown placed on his head the people cheered. It is shockingly easy to present yourself as what you are not.

[barren mortar]

exactly,

[pulsar ocean]

Mandatory hitler mention

[feral skiff]

if we submerged all calamity character into an ocean of blood in an inhospitable exoplanet

how long would they survive

and they’re inside a really cramped submarine

[pulsar ocean]

Ermmmmm pretty sure it’s a moon actually

[split mortar]

Some are lasting for ages some are lasting minutes

[pulsar ocean]

90% of the relevant verse would just swim up

[split mortar]

Is there atmosphere up there? I thought there wasnt
If there is then yeah like amidias and above just swin up

[real silo]

God of blood in high spirits

[main marlin]

Ooh, that was my follow up question, if he had anything to do with the Duke

[wanton pendant]

They're both Fishrons, at present. But they also live on opposite sides of the continent.

[plucky juniper]

yknow, I get that this is flawed, but I do think he isn’t wrong that the writer perspective on yharim might’ve changed

I remembered hearing from a writer before fabsolution about how they figured that if yharim ever had a lore item, it would be written similarly to that eulogy of emet selch from ffxiv

considering a later statement by cei on how she wrote calamitas’s perspective on yharim with fabsol in mind, as well as an observation of how old lore yharim was behaviorally so similar to fabsol that you could argue that old lore yharim was fabsol’s self insert

i have a sinking feeling that lore item won’t be so nice to yharim after all

so what im rambling about is that fabsolution led to both writers and the people in this channel treating yharim even more negatively

[barren mortar]

Deservedly

[plucky juniper]

see: 500,000,000,000 billion comparisons of yharim to the big h

[barren mortar]

another day another hitler comparison

i prefer to call him darth vader

[plucky juniper]

honestly i see where your coming from, but i think vader isn’t the right guy to compare

[barren mortar]

yeah vader is better

[plucky juniper]

that guy genuinely did fall from grace, yharim from what im hearing was kinda fucked up from the beginning anyways

[light linden]

yharim went mad from power very fast

[plucky juniper]

if he accepted becoming a god I’d think he’d still be terrible, probably even openly

[light linden]

I still wonder what'd happen to auric if all the dragons died

[agile matrix]

wasnt he like rather young when he was “reborn”

[leaden bridge]

We don't think anything particular

[plucky juniper]

also just wanna come back and say

remember the “FABSOL DEAD” newspaper memes?

[real glen]

Rust and dust

[leaden bridge]

It's some kind of 1.4.4

[long bloom]

rust and dust was 1.4.5

[leaden bridge]

We know

[graceful warren]

Yharim hates jungle tortoise confirmed. Why was he not mad about Draedon experimenting on the turtle and only cares about the bees.

[wanton pendant]

The tortoises only became infected AFTER Yharim unleashed the Plaguebringer Goliath.

[graceful warren]

Oh damn my bad. I was more just trying to be funny but thx for correcting me

[robust osprey]

didnt know bigger and boulder got renamed

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is of course a melee main, why would he hate his post-mech armour upgrade supply?

[graceful warren]

I mean i couldn't really see Yharim fighting you with anything but sword

[wanton pendant]

And not his trusty Yharim Guns?

[graceful warren]

Does bro even use guns. I mean he does use a magical crystal that shoots a massive laser

[wanton pendant]

He just picks up a soldier who has a gun over his head like it's New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

[main marlin]

I always thought the old duke was supposed to be the father of the duke

[wanton pendant]

Old Duke is REALLY old. Like, much older than 850.
Likely much older than a thousand.

[main marlin]

OH

He lives in the abyss, right?

[wanton pendant]

No.

He lives in the Sulphurous Sea.

[split mortar]

Old duke is the first offshoot of that line of dragons though id say the auric dragon that resulted in old duke being born was

[main marlin]

Okok

Got it

I always thought Old Duke felt out of place being in between Polterghast and DoG

[split mortar]

Id say polterghast is more odd tbh

[main marlin]

Polterghast is the souls of the dungeon amalgamated, no?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Yes, why is that stronger then one of the strongest gods ever

[wanton pendant]

A ghost smoothie, an extremely old dragon and an extradimensional god eating snake.

[split mortar]

I can see why its stronger but it certainly feels less grandiose then some of the stuff its stronger then

[main marlin]

You mean Providence?

[split mortar]

And ravager

[main marlin]

Ravager is a god?

[wanton pendant]

Ravager is a zombie god.

[split mortar]

Blood god zombie thing

[main marlin]

Oh wow

[split mortar]

God of sacrifice got revived and turned into the blood god

[main marlin]

How come DoG didnt kill Ravager and/or Providence?

[wanton pendant]

Yharim killed Ravager. Twice.
Providence runs away.

[split mortar]

Ravager concept art

[split mortar]

Wait twice

[wanton pendant]

Lore item mentions Yharim beat up Ravager after killing Agnus.

[graceful warren]

Dear god he has become a crab

Everything become crab

[split mortar]

Oh ok should re read things once i beat bs

[main marlin]

Truth is Crabulon didnt die, he just became the ravager

[graceful warren]

Crab is the peak of evolution eventually all become crab

[main marlin]

The exo bosses look like the Destroyer, Twins and Skeletron Prime because Daedron was inspired by them or was it the other way around or is this totally unrelated?

[wanton pendant]

He made them.

[graceful warren]

Yes they were. The original mech were basically just poorly made test design for the exos

[split mortar]

They look like them because fabsol is fabsol

In universe draedon used them as a starting point of inspiration

[split mortar]

What

[main marlin]

The mechanical bosses?

[wanton pendant]

No, not really.

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Yeah they are also made by draedon

[main marlin]

OH

[graceful warren]

I thought the were Draedon even admits himself he put very little effort into the original mechs

[main marlin]

I forget the lore of Calamity has nothing to do with vanilla terraria

My bad

[eternal veldt]

I prefer this than a bloody minecraft slime

[split mortar]

Does not mean they are exo mech prototype

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but they're just older creations, not early design for the Exo Mechs.

[eternal veldt]

Vanilla terraria lore gets altered in calamity

[main marlin]

So then, Daedron made the Mechanical bosses to look like their pre-hardmore counterparts on purpose?

[wanton pendant]

Coincidence.

[wanton pendant]

It's irrelevant to Calamity.

[graceful warren]

Well you even have to admit they inspired the exo mechs

[split mortar]

The prehardmode varients may not have existed back then

[wanton pendant]

I never said they weren't.

[graceful warren]

Gotcha

[main marlin]

Thats a funny coincidence then

[wanton pendant]

Unless the Clothier is like, 90, Skeletron wasn't around back then.

[eternal veldt]

Yeah.

[graceful warren]

Honestly im not gonna lie I would shit myself if I was a solider of a nation Yharim was conquering and than just a massive floating head started firing laser at us

[main marlin]

Maybe Skeletron is not just the Clotheir, maybe it is a curse passed from person to person and the Clothier is the last one to have it

[eternal veldt]

Could be possible

[split mortar]

If skeletron existed prior then the old man woulda died to the dungeon guardian im pretty sure

[main marlin]

Hmm

[wanton pendant]

It was made to incinerate religious people, after all.

[eternal veldt]

Speaking of... dungeon guardian is hilarious

[main marlin]

The Devourer of Gods is not an ally of Yharim, right?

[wanton pendant]

It is.

[real glen]

It is

[graceful warren]

Yharon after seeing a perfectly peaceful society do nothing wrong but they just so happen to worship a god. Your gonna all die now

[long bloom]

it's complicated

[main marlin]

Oh no, theyre divorced...

[wanton pendant]

No, that's Draedon.

[long bloom]

he does help yharim quite a lot, but is truly loyal to noxus

[graceful warren]

Basically the DoG was just there for some snacks

[eternal veldt]

Well yes and no

[main marlin]

Daedron and Yharim fight over the custody of Calamitas

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost already took the kids by then.

[split mortar]

Permafrost is her adoptive dad

[eternal veldt]

Sadly the terrarian got the custody

[mighty zenith]

perma is the only one of them that she doesnt hate

[main marlin]

Because permafrost is a real one

[eternal veldt]

Oh right she hates the terrarian too

[main marlin]

Selling me the greater mana potions

For like 10 silver less than thr wizard

[graceful warren]

Permafrost deserves the custody

[mighty zenith]

ok terrarian not included but she's also literally an adult woman when she meets the terrarian so it doesnt count

[eternal veldt]

He also helps me with bossfights >:D

[main marlin]

WHAT WHY?? I gave her a cute house and a peaceful life

[mighty zenith]

she doesnt

[graceful warren]

Permafrost was the closest thing she had to father figure

[mighty zenith]

if she did, she wouldn't willingly stay around

[eternal veldt]

She ambushes you at the start of the battle

[wanton pendant]

She thinks you're the second coming of Hitler initially.
After you beat her she thinks that maybe you're not.

[eternal veldt]

But realized you chill

[split mortar]

Second coming of hitler 😭

[eternal veldt]

Little does she know the torture i do to the angler

Lives in hell and has constant floor of lava for his house

[graceful warren]

Also what the hell is the terrarian like bro was beating gods and dragons. As just a dude

[long bloom]

the terrarian is....

[eternal veldt]

the terrarian is you

[wanton pendant]

Just guys being dudes.

[main marlin]

Boys will be boys

[split mortar]

THE TERRARIAN IS YOU

[eternal veldt]

Could the terrarian be hallucinating the old ones army

[graceful warren]

Like imagine what Yharim thinking watching you kill Yharon.

[eternal veldt]

This goes on par with torch god hallucination

[long bloom]

possible but improbable

[main marlin]

Yharim is fucking shivering in his auric throne

[mighty zenith]

drug induced panic attack

[graceful warren]

Also if we killed Yharon doesn't that technically make use a god

[long bloom]

no

[eternal veldt]

No

[mighty zenith]

just killing him isnt enough

[long bloom]

you have to absorb the soul

[eternal veldt]

You need the KFC's soul

[long bloom]

the soul you don't have through a ritual you don't know

[main marlin]

The terrarian is actually beyond godhood tbh

[graceful warren]

I mean we use there soul in weapon and armor

[eternal veldt]

Those are pretty easy fixes

[long bloom]

fragments

[main marlin]

Theyre just THAT GUY

[mighty zenith]

you're beyond godhood when you kill wall of flesh

[eternal veldt]

Merely calling the terrarian god is an insult at this point tbh

[eternal veldt]

Nah sadly the hive mind will get replaced you gotta kill moonlord to pass that.

[wanton pendant]

You need the whole thing, and to do a ritual, which you don't know how to do.

[graceful warren]

So basically with the Yharon themed weapons and set your wearing the ability of a god without having to absorb the soul

[mighty zenith]

slime god?

[main marlin]

Devourer of Gods when i disable damage in Journey Mode

[eternal veldt]

Didn't kill him

[long bloom]

and nobody alive who knows the ritual can or will tell you

[mighty zenith]

queen slime

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

[long bloom]

no???

[graceful warren]

Oh gotcha

[wanton pendant]

No?

[eternal veldt]

To become a god you must ascend

[graceful warren]

Just those armor and weapons are made from Yharon soul tho right

[mighty zenith]

being a god isnt really about strength

[eternal veldt]

Btw i forgor the name of the life god who was she again

[graceful warren]

Well parts of it

[mighty zenith]

its about the status and abilities gained from it

[main marlin]

Look at the slime god for example

[eternal veldt]

So basically we get stronger

[long bloom]

the auric ore is infused with yharon soul fragments, which doesn't do anything except disable auric rejection

[mighty zenith]

silva

[graceful warren]

Oh gotcha

[eternal veldt]

Does silva know the ritual

[wanton pendant]

They're dragon stuff, not god stuff.

[mighty zenith]

yes but uhh

[wanton pendant]

Of course.

[eternal veldt]

She would be mice enough to tell us ngl

[long bloom]

given she's a god, yes

[mighty zenith]

she's currently a vegetable

both literally and figuratively

trapped in the deepest trench in the world

[long bloom]

she is very much not conscious

[eternal veldt]

We've been there if i can find a rock i can find her >:D

[long bloom]

she looks like this rn

[mighty zenith]

she still can't tell you shit

she's basically incubating

[eternal veldt]

What makes you think we can't help her regenerate >:D

[long bloom]

common sense

[mighty zenith]

uhh

the fact that she's the goddess of life

[graceful warren]

Also im not gonna lie wraith of the gods avatar of emptiness is my cannon design for him

[split mortar]

Its less so you cant contact her and more so she has no mouth and must scream

[long bloom]

who

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian has none the moment the mf created miracle matter

[wanton pendant]

What are you going to do?
Throw fertilizer at her?

[dim swan]

who even is statis in the lore

[wanton pendant]

For what?

[wanton pendant]

Braelor's boyfriend.

[long bloom]

last ninja of the onyx kinsmen

[wanton pendant]

Last Onyx Kinsmen.

[dim swan]

whos braelor

[long bloom]

champion of silva

guardian of the vernal pass

[wanton pendant]

Statis' Boyfriend.
Silva's little helper.

[mighty zenith]

they're both strong rebels against yharim

[dim swan]

i saw sum dude say he and yharim are dating

[mighty zenith]

given they're god worshippers

[graceful warren]

This guy

[eternal veldt]

Possibly... or create something with life alloys ngl those things are magical

[long bloom]

[dim swan]

whos silva tho

[wanton pendant]

I know who Avatar of Emptiness is.

I'm asking why you're bringing it up.

[long bloom]

elemental of nature and goddess of life

[eternal veldt]

I prefer AOV as AOV

[split mortar]

Its braelor and statis who are

[mighty zenith]

statis and braelor are dating each other

or, were, before braelor got locked in gay baby jail

[graceful warren]

Eh i just like the design pretty much why I brought it up

[eternal veldt]

I don't want wrath of the gods touching calamity since it's better as its own mod

[mighty zenith]

it is a good design

[dim swan]

dude dog is such a bitch

[wanton pendant]

Ok?
It's not a Calamity character, though.

[long bloom]

[dim swan]

its literally just
post calamitas/exo content

it doesnt feel like calamity

[split mortar]

Good thing i looked away for a minute or two i avoided that wotg spoiler

[mighty zenith]

she's the goddess of life

[dim swan]

since it doesnt even touch up anything

[eternal veldt]

No. The lore is better as its own universe

[mighty zenith]

got mutilated and tossed into the abyss by yharim

[split mortar]

Thats whats it becoming eventually

[eternal veldt]

Also no

[mighty zenith]

because she can't really die

[eternal veldt]

Lorewise atleast

[dim swan]

theres like one structure

oh lorewise

but gameplay wise its almost nothing

[mighty zenith]

wrath of the gods is becoming its own thing regardless

[eternal veldt]

Wrath of the gods lore is like insanely incompatible

[leaden bridge]

Not really

[wanton pendant]

Lorewise at least the main issue is why is Draedon making magic infinite energy seeds when he has infinite energy crystals.

[leaden bridge]

Outside of the funny hotog compat auric souls

[graceful warren]

No it is a calamity character. It is a rework of noxus

[leaden bridge]

It's all well outside the scope of cal lore

So it doesn't matter

[eternal veldt]

There is a lot more but there is too much that i couldn't be bothered to bring it all up

[wanton pendant]

It is not a Calamity character.

It is also not Noxus.

[long bloom]

it's not

[graceful warren]

Oh I thought it was

[dim swan]

i saw someone saying draedon was a mortal scientist who transferred his mind into a vessel and wiped his memory with the sole goal of reaching perfection

[split mortar]

Wotg is not official nor does it replacing noxus make it noxus

[eternal veldt]

Used to be

[dim swan]

is that true

[long bloom]

it's based on old noxus, but is an entirely separate character

[wanton pendant]

Unknown.

[mighty zenith]

the whole reason AoE exists is to not be the same as noxus

[split mortar]

Thats a possible interpretation but its left amiguous

[dim swan]

i read that as amongus

[graceful warren]

I know wraith of the gods lore is different than calmility

[long bloom]

also nameless deity isn't xeroc

just clearing that up

[eternal veldt]

Imagine if the terrarian is old human draedon without memories cuz how tf are we able to come up with biom blade

[graceful warren]

Basically is mainly changes the end game lord alot

[mighty zenith]

how would that work though

[wanton pendant]

Older than Permafrost.

[mighty zenith]

if draedon is there

[long bloom]

what

[split mortar]

Human draedon eould be lile 660 years old

[wanton pendant]

That's how old robot Draedon is.

[split mortar]

And you are gay

[wanton pendant]

Unless he made Draedon as a baby...

WHAT?!

[eternal veldt]

Yes did i stutter

[split mortar]

Yes you did

[mighty zenith]

if they were the same person then draedon would. definitely comment on that

[graceful warren]

Also not gonna lie Draedon has the coldest lines in calmility

[mighty zenith]

and yet he knows nothing about us

[split mortar]

Draedon is cool

[eternal veldt]

He aurafarms all the time

[wanton pendant]

And not Permafrost?

[long bloom]

this is because he's one of two actual characters

[mighty zenith]

true!

[languid badge]

That’s not a high bar I can’t lie

[dim swan]

what does he even do

[wanton pendant]

He's really cool.

[dim swan]

not lorewise

just dialogue wise

[long bloom]

he uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dim swan]

i always see him as an old grumpy dud

[wanton pendant]

He's really cool.

[leaden bridge]

Actually, draedon once scaled the miracle tower. His curiosity became the terrarian and his creativity became the exo mechs

[graceful warren]

He is a single father okay give the man some respect

[dim swan]

imagine if the terrarian is yharim

[languid badge]

Uhhh He makes deltarune references in his boss fight

[wanton pendant]

He's old!

[split mortar]

Oh thats talkable???

[languid badge]

The only normal dialogue I remember from him is the one about him making the snow biome or smth

[long bloom]

melon
the terrarian can't be yharim

[eternal veldt]

Would be weird if the terrarian is yharim since calamitas forgave us though

[dim swan]

aquatic scourge fucking sucks

[split mortar]

Coward

[real glen]

very very very very loreous but who might have more ability to control the terraria

[wanton pendant]

It's like that old Zelda theory.

[wanton pendant]

Neither of these are from Calamity.

[long bloom]

who the fuck is on the left

[real glen]

thats why i said loreous

[mighty zenith]

john terraria obviously

[split mortar]

Who is on the left

[leaden bridge]

I don't think funny man controls anything particular

[real glen]

Flayer Icon from GaMeTerraria

[zenith geode]

blueguy

[leaden bridge]

He's just a funny man

[long bloom]

oh flayer icon

idk their lore

[wanton pendant]

Blue guy or God?
Who wins?
I think it might be God.

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian straight up can't touch deity

Wait.... hmmm

Maybe he could if the AOV theory is true about AOV being a dead god from another universe

[wanton pendant]

AOV?
You mean Avatar of Emptiness?

[eternal veldt]

Yep

[feral skiff]

ermm, actually

addon content ISN’T canon

[zenith geode]

avater of vmptiness

[feral skiff]

we’re going to kill you now

[eternal veldt]

This isn't about calamity

[long bloom]

✅

[feral skiff]

oh wait what

[eternal veldt]

I see wrath of the gods as another universe than calamity tbh even if it's a calamity addon rn

[dim swan]

noxus is cool cause he raps

[shell sail]

why is decourer of god weaker than primordial wyrm

isn’t dog dupposed to be stronger than god cus of the name

[mighty zenith]

gods come in all shapes and sizes

they could be as weak as slime god or as strong as providence

[split mortar]

Slimegod is a god and also there were gods stronger then DoG

[graceful warren]

DoG is only called that because he needs to eat gods to live

[split mortar]

Also primordial wyrm is
Blessed by a god while being the strongest and oldest member of the strongest draconic offshoots we know of

[mighty zenith]

primordial wyrm also gets the benefit of living in a very harsh environment, being really old and experienced and being blessed by a goddess

[raven brook]

Not as far as we know

He isn't even really eating them

Probably dosen't even have a digestive system 😭

[mighty zenith]

he's more of a transport tube

[raven brook]

He just consumes divine essence and sends it to Noxus

He's a straw .

[dim swan]

self given title

since well

he can swallow gods whole

[raven brook]

Yeah he kinda was just making himself as appealing to Yharim as possible i think

[dim swan]

fuck dog

[split mortar]

More so that the essence disappears

[raven brook]

look it's me the god eater that eats gods and can clean up the mess youve been struggling with containing

[graceful warren]

Oh I thought he needed them to eat

[raven brook]

dont you want me to work for you mr hates gods and kills them guy

[split mortar]

No guy might not
Need to eat

[raven brook]

We don't know if DoG is even really a natural organism, probably not all things considered

[graceful warren]

Mr genocide and destroy half the ocean with pollution

[raven brook]

His entire existence is like,

way too targetted

[split mortar]

Also weavers weird existence is weird

[dim swan]

Is signus a god

[raven brook]

Nah

[split mortar]

No

[raven brook]

He's much like Noxus or Devourer in that he's some fuckass alien from the distortion

But unlike Devourer he's not really subservient to anyone

He's not one of Noxus's goons, he's doing his own thing

[graceful warren]

Get down with the signus

[dim swan]

Wait aren't CV signus and storm weaver the dog fellas

[split mortar]

Not anymore

[raven brook]

Old lore moment

[mighty zenith]

god please change signus' title please

[dim swan]

Ok so that's why draedon says it in the old video

[raven brook]

CV is a portal to the distortion probably made by Noxus

Storm Weaver is Weird

[dim swan]

Wait noxus

[raven brook]

(It's a long story)

[dim swan]

Dude from wotg

[raven brook]

No

[split mortar]

CV is a door frame with a turret on it to simplify
Door fight
Weaver, idk ask cheese
Signus entirely unrelated to dog and signus

[dim swan]

You feel above yourself guy

[mighty zenith]

noxus is a calamity character

that wotg originally adapated before changing it completely

[graceful warren]

Noxus and Avatar of emptiness are different

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is not from Wrath of the Gods.
Nouxs isn't even in Wrath of the Gods anymore.

[split mortar]

Thats not even the wotg guy who was called noxus

[mighty zenith]

into avatar

[raven brook]

They replaced WOTG's Noxus with Avatar of Emptiness a long time ago already for the same reason as Nameless Deity is Nameless Deity and not Xeroc

[wanton pendant]

That's God.

[raven brook]

Noxus and Xeroc are real calamity characters entirely unrelated to the WOTG bosses

[dim swan]

That's god???

[raven brook]

yeah nameless deity is literally just god

[dim swan]

Oh wait I messed it up

[raven brook]

omnipotent all powerful being etc

[dim swan]

Yeah you feel above yourself is god

[raven brook]

the damage that youtube titles have done to the lore circle

😭

[eternal veldt]

Is DOG supposed to be larger?

[dim swan]

Noxus is the

The

[raven brook]

DoG is as big as it is ingame, if a redesign/resprite makes it larger then it is that big

[dim swan]

Given second life guy

[raven brook]

This goes for all characters

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

Was gonna get a resprite that makes each segment like as big as providence but that got scrapped because hell

[graceful warren]

Basically wotg changes the end game lore in 3 ways. 1 the left over parts of the exo mechs get turned into a new mech. Avatar of emptiness replaces noxus and xeroc is replaced with nameless deity

[raven brook]

Not really replacements, they're kinda just separate things

[dim swan]

The dude in nameless deities theme

[wanton pendant]

Noxus has LITERALLY nothing to do with Nameless Deity.

[eternal veldt]

Nahhh they straight up changed the lore

[raven brook]

Wotg lore is mostly disconnected from Calamity lore, specially considering that the mod is gonna fully separate from calmaity

No, they didn't, again

it's doing its own thing

[graceful warren]

Well replace game play wise not lore wise

[wanton pendant]

Not... at all?

[dim swan]

Dude they keep lying to me

I thought it was satan

And they said it was

Fucking noxus

[wanton pendant]

Nameless Deity is God.

[raven brook]

Okay

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is Noxus.

[split mortar]

Replace what game wise?? They dont exist gamewise yet

[raven brook]

This chat is hectic rn guys slow down a bit, its hard to explain things when there are several conflicting messages being given at once ,,

Anyways,

[graceful warren]

Noxus exist

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is not ingame.

[split mortar]

Noxus isnt in yet gamewise though?

[wanton pendant]

Noxus is not even mentioned by name ingame.

[split mortar]

Not even mentioned in game by name

[graceful warren]

Oh I thought he was

[split mortar]

No

[graceful warren]

Maybe I thinking of the video

[wanton pendant]

What video?

[raven brook]

WotG's characters Nameless Deity and Avatar of Emptiness (Which was formerly called Noxus) where based on calamity's old lore, specifically the lore for Xeroc and Noxus on it.

However, as new lore has entirely different writing for these two characters and WotG wanted to be more original and separate i tself from calamity, AoE and ND became their own fully separate characters with no affiliation to Xeroc and Noxus whatsoever - The "Noxus" you see in Nameless Deity's music video is just a old sprite for Avatar of Emptiness

[graceful warren]

Gotcha. So we are still waiting for xeroc of noxus fight

[raven brook]

yes

they'll be the mods two "postgame" bosses, after yharim - Though there is a chance they might not even get added, they're not 100%\ confirmed

[graceful warren]

So for right now wotg is your best bet

For endgame super bosses

[raven brook]

Ehh, wouldn't really say that

[dim swan]

Who sings the lyrics in deities theme

[raven brook]

Well ok yeah

[split mortar]

I think nameless?

[wanton pendant]

Obama.

[dim swan]

Both of the verses?

[raven brook]

I can't think of any other calamity addons that really do anything similar

[graceful warren]

What boss do you think has the best theme

[long bloom]

scal

[split mortar]

Scal or yharon but the cal ost aint really my type much of the timr

[dim swan]

Base calamity?

[graceful warren]

Yeah base calamity

[wanton pendant]

Don't worry, Yharim will have God Save the King as his theme.

[graceful warren]

Honestly I love crabulon theme

[split mortar]

Never heard of that

[dim swan]

DoG

For sure

My fav theme

BUTTT some parts of scal are bangers

[split mortar]

Scb and rotjd are like the only songs i may listen to now and then

[graceful warren]

Okay but of the hive mind and The Perforators who do you think has the better theme

[long bloom]

hive mind

i do not like blood coagulant

it's screaming at me

[graceful warren]

Im gonna go perforators

[dim swan]

Wotm exo theme is a banger

[long bloom]

(i think it's good in the context of the bossfight but not by itself)

[graceful warren]

I like getting screamed at i guess

[dim swan]

Even tho it's not base cal

[raven brook]

music discussion

[long bloom]

✅

[raven brook]

i like perforators theme bc i like heavy metal like that

[graceful warren]

Same

[raven brook]

my favorite themes are probably scal's and astrum deus

maybe pg

pbg

[long bloom]

true deus theme slaps

[split mortar]

I find all the astral themes as mid

[raven brook]

Hey since this is a music discussion and we're in lore dsicussion i'm using this to spread my music and lore adjacent propaganda

[graceful warren]

Honestly slime god theme also slaps hard

[agile matrix]

moronically unrelated but astrageldon's theme is good

[raven brook]

https://youtu.be/Q71EdQ3XT4Q

[agile matrix]

why is this here

[raven brook]

I think Signus's theme having these sort of vibes would be badass 👍

[graceful warren]

Oh my god yes. It really make you feel like your fighting god

[long bloom]

a weird phenomenon i've noticed is that every time somebody asks which boss has the most fitting theme, people almost unanimously answer deus

including me

[dim swan]

Who even is polterghast

[raven brook]

It's not really a who it's more of a what

[agile matrix]

coagulate of dead guys

[raven brook]

It's a bunch of really angry souls

Meshed together

[agile matrix]

all who are really fuckin pissed off at everything

[split mortar]

70000000 souls of the damned

[agile matrix]

also i like deus's theme but like

[sudden barn]

do you guys think yharim theme will have a similar approach to yharon's? since yharon mentions his master on his theme

[agile matrix]

idk its missing a key component i think

[raven brook]

Yharim's guards who died in the dungeon, the prisoners themselves who got tortured and killed, god knows what else

[dim swan]

So it's an irrelevant thing

[raven brook]

Just alot of really angry ghosts fused together

[long bloom]

no

[raven brook]

Idk if i'd call it irrelevant

[agile matrix]

i personally think his theme will be more a funeral dirge rather than epik popcore or whatever

whatever the word is

[long bloom]

it drove the dragon cult out of the dungeon

[raven brook]

It's just not much of a character

[agile matrix]

(scals was and draedons doesnt exist)

[raven brook]

It's lore impact is less about who it is and more about what it represents and what it caused

[balmy glacier]

yharon

[long bloom]

also yeah polter is one of yharim's most visible fuckups

[sudden barn]

i still think to myself how they'd outdo scal's theme

[agile matrix]

i think when draedon get a proper theme (im leaning on CDMusic when i say this) it should adapt to whos on screen instead of just being one track

kinda like how scals forces the audio track further as you progress

[long bloom]

wait true

[raven brook]

Music discussion truly

[agile matrix]

we love music .

i mean musics kinda important for like

aura

and auras kinda like lore

so its actually all good

[sudden barn]

i listen to calamity themes religiously on spotify

like everyday

[dim swan]

I liked dog ONLY because of his theme

[sudden barn]

i think the leviathan trilogy is underrated

[agile matrix]

i remember suggesting for a roadtrip that DoG's theme was on the playlist

i was uh

i was a special kid.

very special.

(it did go on and people hated it :[ )

[sudden barn]

they don't understand peak

[dim swan]

DoGs theme is only good while playing

Which is like

Almost every theme

[brazen coral]

open frenzy works at any time

[long bloom]

incorrect

[brazen coral]

the only appropriate response is to start a fight though