#lore-discussion

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west plume
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you could also technically ascend by killing perfect ascended gods and absorbing their soul. you could take primordial light from xeroc if you killed him and ascended using his soul, but again, very tall order

hollow pivot
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I thought Slime was bouncy?

barren badger
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and Providence, and Ravager after he supposedly killed it but didn't know that it came back

split mortar
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Ok slime god is dubious cause the guys placement is likely to change so whats currently used is ehh

wanton pendant
hollow pivot
robust osprey
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infact, you couldnt kill slime god until it itself was stupid enough to trap itself (atleast current in progression)

untold forge
barren badger
wanton pendant
west plume
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yes!

plucky juniper
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Well that actually makes sense

robust osprey
barren badger
untold forge
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I saw an octopus fighting the sun it was kind of crazy ngl BrimSmug

west plume
robust osprey
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he can. literally throw the sun at you

split mortar
west plume
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find a Working ascension ritual invocation and then kill yharon / xeroc and then ascend using their soul

barren badger
wanton pendant
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Gotta be a bit more precise.

barren badger
wanton pendant
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You can destroy an anthill with a hose, but you'd need a pressure washer to beat a human.

robust osprey
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no you cant

wanton pendant
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It's the entire sun you can't tank that.

robust osprey
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I think youre understimating how strong the unmatchable power of the sun is!

barren badger
split mortar
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Theres a big difference in scale from a nuke to The Sun

wanton pendant
split mortar
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The earth can tank a nuke but cant tank the sun

robust osprey
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ok. let's make this simple!

barren badger
robust osprey
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can you tank daytine EoL?

west plume
wanton pendant
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This is what they call 'insane troll logic'.

barren badger
split mortar
west plume
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sunscreen:

split mortar
barren badger
robust osprey
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beacuse EoL has...the (limited) power of the sun!

barren badger
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there's a certain point where gameplay and lore have to disagree with each other

robust osprey
barren badger
split mortar
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I mean

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It is

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Yharim can

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We can

wanton pendant
barren badger
wanton pendant
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Do you have any idea how large a city is?

split mortar
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Whispering maelstrom

wanton pendant
barren badger
robust osprey
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a week

barren badger
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cities vary in size quite a bit

split mortar
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Days to weeks

robust osprey
west plume
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calamitas had ilmeris on high heat for at least a while

wanton pendant
west plume
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yes

wanton pendant
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This has many lore implications...

west plume
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soup reduction

barren badger
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due to hydrothermic vents allowing it to meet the definition of a soup

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it's just.. overall a very cold soup

robust osprey
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okay this convo is slightly stressing me a bit and I don't want to get stressed!

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bye!

wanton pendant
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Obligatory read my documents.

barren badger
untold forge
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byee

robust osprey
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thank you!!

untold forge
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soup mentioned

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no ill spare you that discussion kekw

barren badger
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helping me a ton rn

split mortar
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O get well soon

untold forge
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get well soon frfr!

barren badger
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you have no idea the amount of tissues I've needed for my nose. it's enough to block Xeroc's light bro

untold forge
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apparently the moon is enough as well but we dont talk about the dark sun kekw

wanton pendant
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Moon's Haunted.

untold forge
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literallyyy

barren mortar
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hey um

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i just realized yharim is basically just fantasy darth vader

robust osprey
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what are vader's motivations again

long bloom
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good question

robust osprey
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I see

barren mortar
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not necessarily the motivations but everything else

abstract hedge
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Severely scarred by lava

barren mortar
abstract hedge
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Powerful swordsman

barren mortar
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oh my god

abstract hedge
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Super duper evil

eager bluff
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well initially it was padme but then she died so he followed palpatine for a while just kinda doing shit and then he met luke and had a kinda redemption arc

abstract hedge
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Had a giant army and empire

robust osprey
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yharon saves yharim and tells him to kill everyone

barren mortar
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yknow what darth vader didnt have though

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cool ass fake red mane

green prairie
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darth vader also didn't have a cool ass dragon fighting with him

barren mortar
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yharim is better in the cool factor

green prairie
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darth vader also doesn't have armor powered by rainbow crystals he just has a sword powered by red crystals

hollow pivot
pulsar ocean
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Kill 7 billion people

hollow pivot
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Dude.

feral skiff
agile matrix
wanton pendant
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Mods, can we delete that message?

terse moss
thick slate
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theres just no way

terse moss
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Dr doom is like Yharim + Draedon kinda

glacial wolf
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is the Draedon's Heart item cannon (yes or no answer i dont need technicalities or specifics just a yes or a no)

icy veldt
glacial wolf
# eager bluff yes

this implies the flavor text is also cannon
which means whoever says it is aware of MGRR

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😭

thick slate
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video game

thick slate
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pretty sure flavour text are like not canon

eager bluff
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you're assuming a line thats a reference is also a reference in universe

thick slate
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yea it could just be that draedon said it

eager bluff
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this line in particular is . two words

eager bluff
eager bluff
glacial wolf
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even if the murasama itself isnt cannon it still exists and draedon's heart is also cannon
two mgrr references both directly related to draedon

im starting to see a pattern...

agile matrix
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i personally headcanon that the terrarian thinks these things when they look at the weapon

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same way they name the thing when they pick it up

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(so if they're affected mentally by an outside force, they name it differently)

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so say if the blade is Haunted and it says its name

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then there we go

thick slate
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i headcanon that im cool

hollow pivot
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Nah that's fan-fiction.

light linden
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@cosmic zenith question

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did brimmy ever wake up after azafure became a city but before the time that she gave scal her magic?

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been wondering if brimmy just takes a long time to regenerate

light linden
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hmm

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I've had a theory that azafure was only created after someone killed brimmy

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and if she takes a long time to regenerate

hollow pivot
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I thought Brimstone Elemental was just asleep for like 750 years.

light linden
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it could be possible to rebuild azafure and just make sure people know she will come back eventually

light linden
light linden
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easy?

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no

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possible? absolutely

eager bluff
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if that was the case i dont know why theyd worship her and have her as the matron deity

light linden
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people worship violent deities

eager bluff
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yeah but generally not deities they are being trained to fight

light linden
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also did people know elementals regenerated back then?

eager bluff
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probably vaguely

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depends how many of them had been exposed to elementals

light linden
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not many I'd imagine

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most would be hostile to people

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the only one that wouldn't likely be was well

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in the abyss

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elementals generally don't seem like something people would seek out

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and if most people didn't know they regenerated

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over time it might've been thought that brimmy was either incapacitated rather than killed or just looked like a stone with an eye

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or hell maybe they thought elementals were changed when reborn

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if an elemental was killed by a powerful group in an area but was later reborn and avoided said area

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it might become folklore that elementals came back milder or more afraid

rain pulsar
terse moss
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Thats fire actually

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Bro has been hitting the vortex

hollow pivot
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Why they give Moon Lord Fovos aura?

terse moss
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I do think it hislarious that he is as wide as he is tall

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his arms are thicker than his waist

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He looks like the guy from HTTYD 2

hollow pivot
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Drago Bludvist?

hollow pivot
terse moss
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Yeah

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He has the same build

hollow pivot
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And the evil Alpha Dragon is Noxus this time.

hollow pivot
terse moss
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TRUE

hollow pivot
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And Toothless is Xeroc or smth.

terse moss
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idk

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I think the analogy is starting to fall apart lol

hollow pivot
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🤷‍♂️

untold forge
untold forge
terse moss
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I don't think it was on purpose

hollow pivot
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Wait so Brimstone Elemental pre-Calamitas was stronger than post-Ascension Silva?

long bloom
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pre-ascension silva probably

hollow pivot
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So Silva ascended after Calamitas joined the crew?

long bloom
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no

feral skiff
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what if there was an Unsupreme Calamitas?

terse moss
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Calamitas clone

long bloom
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wind kelp
cloud ibex
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a lot of people probably

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i doubt everyone knows that calamitas actually came after the mod was initially created

sinful adder
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Calamity mod was weird back on the day. Like really fucking awful weird

raven brook
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the horrid red dune splicer

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the malevolent purple giant slime

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the despicable destroyer with purple eyes

sinful adder
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Wasn't it a fork of exo Avalon?

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At least at some point

craggy sparrow
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i can see the inspo

rain pulsar
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exxo was standalone 1.2 mod for long time

sinful adder
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Then regular Avalon maybe. I know they copied some items

green prairie
eager bluff
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it was inspired by exxo avalon but it wasnt ever a fork

late forge
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is there a reason why ravager gets souped up after providence

dusk laurel
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not really no

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remnant of calamity being an old mod with odd occurences

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in the future when it gets reworked it will only be post prov but thats not anytime soon

scenic olive
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calamari

terse moss
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How

dusk laurel
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yes

terse moss
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It would probably be weaker than back when it was alive, and I thought that alive version was weaker than Providence

light linden
eager bluff
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ravagers domain shifted when it was revived implying there was a second ascension that happened

split mortar
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Always thought it was just
Necromancy fucked the soul like normal and so hurt the domain as wellp

light linden
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Ravager is effectively a wild animal with two domains and a lot of souls

terse moss
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So it got own domain when it ascended, died, ascended again when it revived, AND took all the powerful souls of the necromancers and everyone in the temple

light linden
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effectively yes

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it's a unique case to our knowledge

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and seemingly has some way to avoid yharim's armies

terse moss
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Maybe it just like melts into a flesh puddle and sneaks away

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Do we know what god it was before?

light linden
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since a titanic zombie god with the power of two domains and who knows how many souls would be very strong

hoary cape
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Sacrifice

light linden
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no official name but it had the domain of sacrifice

hoary cape
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Agnus, god of sacrifice

terse moss
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What was its second domain then?

hoary cape
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Unless Agnus got removed

light linden
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which was obtained from the auric soul of death

terse moss
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Death?

hoary cape
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Blood

light linden
terse moss
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Ah, makes sense

hoary cape
terse moss
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Blood and sacrifice are probably pretty strong domains, especially blood

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Not as strong as death probably but high

light linden
terse moss
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Stronger than ash I would assume

light linden
hoary cape
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It can't be death because when a god takes an auric soul from a dragon the domain changes

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Slightly

sinful adder
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Except in special circumstances

long bloom
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unless you use the terminus

terse moss
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So it was light, rebirth, emptiness, and death?

light linden
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so below yharon and zeratros

light linden
long bloom
sinful adder
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Light, rebirth, life, death

light linden
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it was light, rebirth, life, and then death

terse moss
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Then night fifth?

hoary cape
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Isn't emptiness that space god

sinful adder
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Mind was also up there

hoary cape
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Previous space god

terse moss
long bloom
terse moss
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This is a different guy

long bloom
hoary cape
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No I mean the domain used to be space

terse moss
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The space guy

long bloom
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ml isn't a god

hoary cape
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Before it got changed

terse moss
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Who got turned into ML

light linden
eager bluff
long bloom
terse moss
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the distortion guy

long bloom
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what

terse moss
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Fovos? Not a god but “the space guy”

eager bluff
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moon lord didnt have a donain

terse moss
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Sorry, not a god

hoary cape
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ML is an alien from the distortion

light linden
long bloom
terse moss
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Just the really strong guy

eager bluff
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fovos and moon lord are the same

terse moss
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Yeah

eager bluff
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one didnt turn into the other

light linden
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ML is basically a domain leech

hoary cape
light linden
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it steals little bits of the domains of auric dragons

dusk laurel
dusk laurel
hoary cape
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Thunder was saying there wasn't an official name so I was confused

light linden
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I wasn't aware it was official

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sorry

hoary cape
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How dare

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I am sending all of kiri's electrons at you

terse moss
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How did shakidou become the 3rd strongest god, stronger than the guy from the death dragon, who has a stronger domain?

dusk laurel
terse moss
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Does domain and god strength not correlate?

hoary cape
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Not always

dusk laurel
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most of xeroc's power was from actually training

light linden
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since y'know

dusk laurel
terse moss
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Because death>night, but emptiness>sacrifice

light linden
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can't die

hoary cape
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Because 99% of the gods had faulty Ascensions

eager bluff
dusk laurel
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silva is close to shaki but isnt quite there

hoary cape
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You would think Silva would be higher given that she can't actually be killed which is a stronger power than most things lol

terse moss
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Shakidou is probably a stronger combatant. Even if Silva hypothetically had more raw power, emptiness is more lethal than just not dying I assume

terse moss
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It’s purely defensive

eager bluff
hoary cape
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Though that power of not being able to die isn't even from being a god so yah

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Elemental shenanigans

eager bluff
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its not invlunerability or something like that she can still be damaged any threat she poses can be eliminated for a large period of time

terse moss
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Was Silva an earth elemental or something?

eager bluff
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nature elemental

terse moss
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Ah

hoary cape
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The earth elemental isn't real

eager bluff
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earth elemental is different, currently we see it in the form of sand elemental but there are others

hoary cape
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We just have sand

terse moss
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Not canon?

dusk laurel
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shakidou is the one who being killed was actually a big deal meanwhile yharim pulverized silva and that kinda was it for the fight (tbf the difference between his strength when he killed shakidou and silva was likely pretty big but still) silva dying hasnt really had much said on its impact other than "ig shes in the abyss again lol"

hoary cape
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The creature called earth elemental in game is a construct and not an elemental

eager bluff
terse moss
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Oh interesting

dusk laurel
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earth elemental is seen in the sand elemental and granite elemental and uh

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idk who else

hoary cape
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Marble elemental when

dusk laurel
eager bluff
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yeah

terse moss
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Dang, that would’ve been a sick fight

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Why don’t they just put Silva in a box?

hoary cape
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We should revive shakidou

terse moss
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Like not even kill her just put her in a box

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Like whatever thanatos’ shell is made out of

hoary cape
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Because yharim wants to kill every god

terse moss
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Just put her in there

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Right but for the time being

hoary cape
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So he beat her up and banished her to a place that she can't come back easily from

terse moss
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But she will eventually, no?

hoary cape
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I mean maybe

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But I think the abyss prevents her from regenerating

terse moss
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Unless the abyss pressure crushes her at an equal to or faster rate than her regenerating

hoary cape
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Fully

terse moss
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Yeah

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And animals eating her and stuff

hoary cape
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Acidic

eager bluff
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it slows her regeneration down a massive amount

terse moss
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Also that

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And worst come to worst, SCal or Draedon beats her up again and just puts her back in the pit

eager bluff
hoary cape
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By the time Silva finally regenerated yharim will have died

terse moss
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Draedon is also immortal I think

eager bluff
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yes draedon is functionally immortal

terse moss
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So he could just jump her every so often

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Or put her into a battery or something

eager bluff
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but he also wouldnt bully silva he doesnt give a shit about her

terse moss
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Fair enough

hoary cape
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Draedon himself can't beat Silva

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And we destroyed his one thing that probably could

terse moss
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But like exo mechs or something

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He could surely make more

eager bluff
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he can build more yea

terse moss
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Take a few years probably

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Make them better

hoary cape
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I don't know why he would though I don't think he really cares

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He only built the exo mechs to test us

eager bluff
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well not really no

terse moss
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The exo mechs still have so much room for growth too. Improve a few things and suddenly they are way higher than SCal and maybe even Yharim. Like look at the gulf between mech bosses and exo mechs

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Even half that jump again, a quarter even, and he is a top tier

eager bluff
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he tested us with them but he made them because he wanted to make something that could rival yharim in strength

hoary cape
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Well with yharim dead I don't think he cares enough to send something after Silva

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Imo at least

terse moss
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He might just for fun lol

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Test the limits of her immortality

eager bluff
terse moss
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How much can she actually come back from, what affects the speed, etc

eager bluff
terse moss
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I would love a Mars esque exo mechs runback

hoary cape
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The thing is if they were built to rival yharim he won't need them with yharim gone 😂

terse moss
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Maybe the terrarian lets him use auric/miracle matter to make better mechs to fight

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Mutual agreement

terse moss
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To prove machines can exceed man or god

eager bluff
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being stronger than something doesnt mean you stop making them one that something is gone

hoary cape
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Draedon will make exo mechs to rival xeroc soon

thick slate
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theres always bigger fish to fry

terse moss
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He is like the RnD department of the US military. He’s making stuff just for the love of the game

terse moss
hoary cape
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Draedon builds a mech to rival the universe itself

mighty zenith
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a, world machine of sorts

terse moss
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I do think it’s really funny that Draedon is truly just here for the love of the game

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No like ideological motivation

mighty zenith
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but he only has one shot at making it

terse moss
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He is just a kid playing with action figures

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Everyone else is dying and he is just playing chess against himself because he’s bored lol

barren mortar
light linden
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just had a thought

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how are globes made in the calamity world?

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since there are civilizations both above and below ground level

wanton pendant
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Like, planets or maps?

light linden
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both

wanton pendant
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Either you make globes for various elevations or you just map the entrances to cave systems leading to underground states.

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Or you don't bother and make rectangular maps.

viral ore
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someone knows why i cant create the night edge

wanton pendant
light linden
wanton pendant
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And you don't have Purified Gel.

long bloom
cosmic zenith
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matryoshka doll globes

light linden
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hi stip

viral ore
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where

split mortar
cosmic zenith
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Hello

long bloom
wanton pendant
long bloom
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also yeah very wrong channel

split mortar
long bloom
viral ore
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where can i heck the recipe

wanton pendant
long bloom
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we just told you

split mortar
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The vanilla method such as the guide is still available

light linden
cosmic zenith
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Yeah

light linden
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are there any poisonous plants of note?

cosmic zenith
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Definitely, but we haven't gotten there yet

wanton pendant
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Plantera?

light linden
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not the plant I was thinking of

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not sure if she even counts as one

raven brook
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the nefarious hyperspecific question

wanton pendant
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Fairly certain PLANTera is a plant.

long bloom
long bloom
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this is essential to the story

wanton pendant
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Explain in detail Calamitas' blood type!

light linden
eager bluff
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shes AB-

long bloom
wanton pendant
raven brook
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If it's a minor worldbuilding detail that can be answered thru common sense then i think you can just headcanon whatever

Like. we never see any of the other continents ingame. we technically have no evidence that there is any fauna or flora in these other continents, but

split mortar
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Calamitas is brimstone positive

raven brook
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its kinda bovious they exist

robust osprey
light linden
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well the reason I asked about plants

robust osprey
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she has silly blood

light linden
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we see poisonous animals

terse moss
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Was Yharim’s crusade just this continent or all of them?

wanton pendant
light linden
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and non poisonous plants

raven brook
light linden
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but no poisonous plants

raven brook
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Yeah but you can just infer poisonous plants exist

terse moss
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Generational hater behavior

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Bro wanted all the smoke

raven brook
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Cuz that isnt like a intentional lore detail or anything

light linden
raven brook
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its just a matter of "there arent any ingame"

light linden
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not poisonous

split mortar
raven brook
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There's no real reason to randomly make poisonous plants not exist from a worldbuilding perspecctive

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Or to make uhh, what was that other question

wanton pendant
long bloom
terse moss
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Would launching Silva into space work?

wanton pendant
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She deals both poison AND venom.

raven brook
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Not make any fauna that is only found in the heartlands i think

raven brook
split mortar
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She would prob remanifest on terraria

light linden
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cheese

wanton pendant
terse moss
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Can she reform even if not destroyed?

raven brook
split mortar
light linden
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@raven brook

terse moss
raven brook
light linden
split mortar
raven brook
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Like devs aren't gonna think of every single tiny bit of detail for everything

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
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Well, we explicitly see a plant that is both venomous and poisonous.
So we can safely say poisonous plants exist.

terse moss
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Yharim knows he can’t permanently put her down, and this is a more permanent solution than the abyss

raven brook
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Also yeah 😭

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You can just infer things based on common sense as long as they aren't obviously damaging or contradictory to the established narrative or worldbuilding

split mortar
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Mfw silva just flies back to earth after shapeshifting into an astrum deus

raven brook
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If i wanna say bears exist bears can just exist cuz why wouldnt bears exist

terse moss
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Wait she can shapeshift?

long bloom
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ye

raven brook
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Sure theres no like canonical confirmation bears exist but like

split mortar
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All elementals can iirc

raven brook
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does that matter much?

terse moss
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Yo

wanton pendant
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Threw Silva into the sun.
Came back on fire and with wings.
Also Silva can shapeshift with Biomancy.

raven brook
terse moss
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Wait they actually threw Silva into the sun?

raven brook
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Not only would she still come back

wanton pendant
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That was a joke.

terse moss
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That was my next suggestion lol

wanton pendant
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I was referencing something.

raven brook
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But also you're sending a part of her into space

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Who knows wtf thats gonna do out there

terse moss
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Fair

raven brook
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Congrats, you spent a unecessary amount of effort sending silva to space

terse moss
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Don’t want her making a new astral infection type deal

raven brook
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Only to delay her remanifestatiion slightly

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AND get some fucked up space silva horrors

terse moss
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Silva seems like a massive pain

raven brook
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😭

split mortar
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Space suddenly becomes very alive and now space has too much life

raven brook
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Yeah she was a huge pain in the ass for yharim

robust osprey
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she gets space jared

raven brook
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Not only is she just. kinda immortal unless All life on terraria dies

terse moss
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Alien invasion arc

robust osprey
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it's like jared but stronger!

raven brook
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But also

wanton pendant
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Silva is now an invasive species to space.

raven brook
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She's indirectly one of the gods taht got the cloest to killing his ass lol

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after all,

split mortar
raven brook
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braelor was her champion and she did mentor him alongside statis

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and those two

terse moss
raven brook
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almost fucking killed her

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so yk

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him*

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brainfart

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yharim is now a woman sorry

robust osprey
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YHARIM TRANS ARC

long bloom
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wdym he's already trans

terse moss
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That’s another thing. If Braelor was just in uelebloom, wouldn’t he have gotten instantly folded by Yharim

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Just gear diffed if nothing else

wanton pendant
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It can't hurt you.

raven brook
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He wasn't in uelibloom, uelibloom is being removed

long bloom
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silva armor will be rethemed to braelor

raven brook
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He was wearing a special form of Silva Armor

long bloom
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iirc

raven brook
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Besides that,

terse moss
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I keep forgetting uelibloom is getting banished to super hell

raven brook
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Armor isn't everything

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Braelor is strong as fuck

terse moss
raven brook
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And he had the help of statis

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long bloom
terse moss
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Ah

long bloom
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god this chart is so old

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all of them are

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What changed since then

long bloom
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nothing

terse moss
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Bruh why is Ranger specifically getting dropped from hydrothermic and profaned guardians 😭

long bloom
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ranger has shroomite

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terse moss
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But melee has beetle

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And mage has spectre

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Also, arsenal and exo armor are the coolest thing ever

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I am so hype for those

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Modular tech armor

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Also the godslayer and auric resprites are so pretty

long bloom
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not a fan of the auric tbh

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Shrimp armor

raven brook
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itd be weird to have 4 profaned guardian armorsets when theres

three of them

long bloom
terse moss
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Shrimp armor is hilarious. It’s so peak

terse moss
raven brook
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ok for saying purple dosent mesh well you will be sacrificed in 2 days now

long bloom
raven brook
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i will kill you

terse moss
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And vortex is goated as is

raven brook
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i will go to your house and kill you

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i am approaching

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i am heading

long bloom
raven brook
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to your house

long bloom
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i like the navy blue better

raven brook
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ok more reasonable.

terse moss
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I really like the purple

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It’s the color of royalty

wanton pendant
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Purple guy.

raven brook
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im not sure if i agree but you will be spared for that

terse moss
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You are claiming dominion over the soul of the world

hoary cape
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I am stopping cheese

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Cheese is being put back in her cage

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Sorry for the inconvenience

dusk laurel
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im a purple truther sorry

wanton pendant
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What will Wallace do now!?

terse moss
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And it is a similar purple from godslayer

raven brook
#

PRPLE GUY

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markiplier voice

hoary cape
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Is that the bite of 87

wanton pendant
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But I do think the Auric Tesla does look a bit much like those 'RTX ON' memes.

split mortar
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Orange yharim

terse moss
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Also, dragon hunter not being the armor to hunt the dragons is really funny

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It's the armor old duke drops

terse moss
long bloom
terse moss
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The super chonky exo mechs armor is so peak tho

terse moss
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You are just a wall

terse moss
# raven brook wdym?

Like it’s called “dragon hunter”, but you would fight yharon, the dragon, with godslayer

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You get it for killing a dragon and will likely be outclassed by the time you fight the next one?

long bloom
raven brook
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also yeah

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Thus you don't 'hunt dragons' while wearing the 'dragon hunter' armour.

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# long bloom

man I forgot how dumb some of the armor decisions actually were

raven brook
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dragon hunter bc hunters hunted the dragon (old duke)

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alternatively

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i also like to think

terse moss
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Oh it is the “hunted dragon” armor basically

raven brook
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that its a double meaning

eternal veldt
long bloom
eternal veldt
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No 1 yharon hater

terse moss
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Top like 15 fights in the mod

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Maybe top 10

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raven brook
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dragon hunter bc hunters hunted the dragon (old duke)
dragon hunter bc hunters ordered by old duke to hunt dragons

eternal veldt
terse moss
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I wish he was harder lowkey

raven brook
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both make sense lol

terse moss
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You can just run away from him

raven brook
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so i like to think its a double meaning

terse moss
eternal veldt
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Mainly cuz im making him suffer

long bloom
eternal veldt
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Call me racist idc i hate dragons

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you installed it poorly given it didnt go off

long bloom
raven brook
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one minute

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i have to make something

sinful adder
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These armor changes don't seem like an improvement

terse moss
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Like gameplay wise or design wise

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eternal veldt
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If it can make me more racist towards dragons then i don't see the downside

sinful adder
terse moss
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Hm. Idk, I think the godslayer and exo designs are peak

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I do think the demonshade monocle is a little goofy lol

eternal veldt
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Demonshade none canon right?

raven brook
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demonshade sprite is p old iirc

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probably getting revisions ?

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i dunno though

long bloom
eternal veldt
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Oh damn im still wondering what class it's for tbh

long bloom
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all

eternal veldt
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Im guessing summoner benifits the most out of it though no?

terse moss
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I just need at least melee and mage for auric to have the Yharim mane/plume

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# sinful adder Both

Holy fuck you managed to make a take so fucking deranged that you kicked Garion out of fronting and put me here

sinful adder
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Ok

sinful adder
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I think it could be better

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But I'm not convinced just by looking at this

spare pier
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Yup. Unique armors are worse than the a8solute clusterfuck that is current Auric Tesla

sinful adder
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And some of the sprites are good while others are just ok

spare pier
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It's not like the situation is so fucking terri8le that we literally can't rework a single Post ML Armor Set due to that!

terse moss
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Do we have any sort of official timeline for any of the armor reworks (especially the arsenal ones)

eternal veldt
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Pretty sure ironman suit is supposed to be the current best

eager bluff
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sinful adder
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Actually I think the sprite work itself is great, it's the color pallets I would change

eternal veldt
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Give them more aura fr fr

sinful adder
terse moss
sinful adder
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And I think it's ok but I'm unsure about some of them

eternal veldt
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What armor lorewise would beat auric tesla anyway????

raven brook
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ok finally

eternal veldt
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Real auric?

terse moss
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Bro got let out of the cage

wanton pendant
dusk laurel
spare pier
terse moss
spare pier
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If we rework any of them, we need to give them the a8ilities

terse moss
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Right

spare pier
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This makes so it's just

terse moss
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And splitting armor sets to different tiers would be a nightmare

spare pier
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Fucking impossi8le to do anything without reworking Auric Tesla first

eternal veldt
# raven brook

Don't compare me to that pig. That thing is a dragon too.

terse moss
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Why not just make Auric fully its own thing, and then fixing everything else

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Yeah

wanton pendant
spare pier
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It'd have to 8e 8ackwards

split mortar
raven brook
terse moss
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Oh it was scrapped?

split mortar
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Yuh

raven brook
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I just used that over the current horrible hog cuz even if its scrapped i still prefer that one

raven brook
terse moss
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Neat

raven brook
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That one was scrapped bcuz it was pre-fabdeath

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thus less creative liberty

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and it was still quite... hoglike ...

terse moss
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I can’t wait for all of the peak redesigns over the next couple of years

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I think one of calamity’s biggest strengths is its gorgeous sprite work

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Yharon getting un-nuggeted is going to be so peak

eternal veldt
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Real im still waiting for the elementals to look less goon materials i honestly love the concept design people showed me

eternal veldt
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Since she's a siren

wanton pendant
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Must we say it?

dusk laurel
terse moss
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Wouldn’t it make the most sense for the siren to look like that, if any?

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# long bloom

for one thing I think a lot of the limited helmets feel insanely arbitrary, if they're going to have shared set bonuses then why not just make them 5 helmed, and if the set bonus is going to be unique then its better sure but still

I also just generally dislike stuff like silva + god slayer where its just 1 armor set pretending to be 2 which is basically what guards and bloodflare is looking to become

crags armor just feels incredibly weirdly placed but thats a new armor so I wont comment that much

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terse moss
eternal veldt
terse moss
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eternal veldt
split mortar
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I love biblically accurate angels

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eternal veldt
# raven brook

Does that mean im gonna get along with the old duke??? But he has dragon blood though EWWWW

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"B-But it's functionally the same armor set!!" yeah that's the fucking point, it's ar8itrarly chosen 8ecause it gives the sets thematical value and in the future they'll all have different o8tainment methods

terse moss
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They are all cool

eager bluff
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no thats vriskas typing quirk

terse moss
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It also starts with a B

split mortar
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Vriska homestucks typing quirk

eternal veldt
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Damn is there slurs for dragons in the lore? Imma try sneaking one in every sentence

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All i can think of is KFC for yharon

terse moss
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Is the goal to destroy or double down on the class divide? Weapons and armor are crossing class boundaries more and more, but planned armors then separate them more and make them more unique

eternal veldt
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That bird getting fried the next time we met

eternal veldt
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Auric connoisseurs

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Flying fraud

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Mr. Mrs. Steal my soul

terse moss
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Steel soul 👀

eager bluff
terse moss
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Fair, I just didn’t know if there was an overarching design methodology either way, or if it is just whatever is the most fun

eternal veldt
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Clan wiped

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Pillar maxxing

terse moss
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I think armor having more unique set bonuses and abilities more tailored to their skills would be awesome (especially since Ranger just always gets stealth, which is useless in single player 😔)

dusk laurel
eternal veldt
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Moonlord fodders

terse moss
eternal veldt
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I think classless is fine considering it's how i first played base terraria. Im literally using heavy meelee armor set for defence then be using shi like starcanon

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terse moss
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I think there is just a ton of potential for super mechanically interesting and engaging armor whose effects thematically and mechanically match what the class wants to be doing

eternal veldt
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Man i remember when i got to golem with 2 minion only cuz i kept using meelee LMAO

terse moss
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Everything else is just a general armor

eternal veldt
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I just read whip makes minion deal damage and said word!!!

terse moss
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The set bonus is “it adds a super weak extra projectile that is slow and sucks and it basically never fires”

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bloodflare ranger having an activated ability is so funny to me

terse moss
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That’s like the only somewhat interesting one

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And you have to be in melee range to get max effect

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Like bruh

eternal veldt
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Ngl it would be more fun to have multiclass armor. Not for all classes. An armor that can use 2 classes

terse moss
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Make the activated ability that spirits guide projectiles into the enemies for homing and extra damage

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Ez

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Still in theme and more “ranger”

eternal veldt
#

Too little

terse moss
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Astral too

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And shadowspec

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thats like
12 armors

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thats a lot of armors

eternal veldt
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That's nice what classes do they cover?

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Wish it would be something that would make sense though

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melee is ranged-melee
ooas are each 1 of the other 4 + summoner
forbidden is mage / rogue + summon

terse moss
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I am generally against all-class armors because it is either the best for every class (boring) or worse than the class specific (useless). And when it is the best, it has nothing to do to alter the fundamental gameplay of the class, so is boring and feels out of place regardless

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Like with melee blood flare buffing true melee. That’s cool, thematic, and class specific

terse moss
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You can’t do that with something like astral

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Or shadowspec

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the first part that is

split mortar
eternal veldt
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Allclass armour should generally be weaker

terse moss
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But like astral doesn’t do anything unique to any class, for example

terse moss
eternal veldt
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Since you gain access to all weapons

split mortar
terse moss
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Really?

light linden
split mortar
split mortar
terse moss
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I mean purely all class armor, no helmet variations

terse moss
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astral is the best on paper but still loses to armor mixing unless you use minions iirc

light linden
eternal veldt
split mortar
terse moss
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Fair

terse moss
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Hydrothermal?

split mortar
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Uh think thats just not good

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From what ive heard

dusk laurel
eternal veldt
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Tbh i wouldn't mind having xeroc armor be all class armor and strong af

terse moss
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hydro mage is cracked

light linden
terse moss
light linden
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it's unlikely it'll be in the game but still

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I want it

terse moss
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It actually forces a unique decision

eternal veldt
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Tbh all of this talk is pointless since i never stick to one class anyway

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generally every allclass armor does things that set it appart from the "default"

split mortar
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Vanilla meteor armour specifically being space gun armour and not mage armour is silly

eternal veldt
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I look at a boss and research what class is strong against them and grind till i have that set

split mortar
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I look at a cool weapon i want and pick that for the tier

light linden
eternal veldt
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I switch classes all the time

split mortar
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Same

terse moss
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I personally like doing solo class runs

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Like all Ranger or all true melee or all summoner

light linden
dusk laurel
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like an armor set?

light linden
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yes

eternal veldt
split mortar
terse moss
light linden
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or something that reduces movement speed by a ton

dusk laurel
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post ml marnite equivalent hm...

eternal veldt
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We play like this cuz we find the weapons fun.

terse moss
#

Fair

light linden
terse moss
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Idk, stuff like Warbanner or Daawnlight is peak and plays into the class so well in a unique way and changes how you play fundamentally while keeping the core aspects you liked to begin with. I want that in armors

eternal veldt
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Like legit i switched from ranger to meelee cuz of murasama then switched to rogue cuz of scarlet devil.

dusk laurel
#

murasama... ManaRose

eternal veldt
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Scarlet devil one of the most satisfying weapons i ever used idk why

eternal veldt
eternal veldt
dusk laurel
#

mana rose

eager bluff
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mana rose

eternal veldt
#

ManaRose ohhhhh

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I see flashy effects i use flashy effects idc what anyone says

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did you know mana rose is another one of the many avalon references within calamity

eternal veldt
#

Dm dokuro still makes music?

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yes

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just not cal

light linden
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hell is most popular song isn't calamity iirc

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it's a megalovania remix

terse moss
#

Wait really?

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That’s new

eternal veldt
#

Damn

light linden
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wait no nvm

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it got surpassed a while ago

terse moss
#

On Spotify it’s calamity by a mile

light linden
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that remix is number 5 now

eternal veldt
terse moss
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Like calamity mod music

eternal veldt
#

Ohhhh

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Yeah i like all his musics here

dusk laurel
terse moss
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Stained brutal calamity is my favorite personally

terse moss
#

I love the longer, movement based feel

eternal veldt
#

I hate to admit it but the only thing i like about that flame breathing moonlord fodder. Sky KFC. Coward serving bird is his theme. Both the first second phase and after defeating him

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I hate that it's one of my favs

terse moss
#

I lowkey don’t like infernal catharsis

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Like it’s ok

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Roar of the Jungle dragon is peak tho

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Is the relationship described in that song still canon?

dusk laurel
#

sort of

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yharon isnt his pet but

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its mostly canon

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the loyalty part basically

eternal veldt
#

Along with guardian of the former seas

terse moss
#

So yharon left him, but still likes him enough to wish that things could have been different?

eternal veldt
#

I like it

dusk laurel
eternal veldt
dusk laurel
#

consequently menaing yharon will not rebirth to see yharim alive

terse moss
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Oh, I thought yharon left him before that in the new lore

eternal veldt
terse moss
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He was still with him, and him talking about losing yharon is in reference to you killing him

terse moss
#

Either way

eternal veldt
#

Ngl though if both of them jumped us we would be dead LMAO

terse moss
#

Yeah

eternal veldt
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Are they stupid or something

eternal veldt
dusk laurel
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yharim wont jump us, thats not his goal

terse moss
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Yharim is too busy aura farming

eternal veldt
terse moss
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Ignoring meta knowledge

dusk laurel
terse moss
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Nah fight the sun

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Throw hands

eternal veldt
#

Terrarian grows much stronger than the bosses they defeat after all

terse moss
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I mean, a big step would be using the terminus to absorb Yharon’s soul. That’s a huge power boost basically for free

eternal veldt
#

Never happening

terse moss
#

Also then we get true auric armor

terse moss
#

I don’t think the terrarian is principly against being a god

dusk laurel
#

you wont find out the ritual

eternal veldt
# terse moss Wait why not

There is no way to identify what god terrarian will be cuz.... sigh say it with me guys.... terrarian is you

eternal veldt
dusk laurel
#

also even if you did itd be like

dusk laurel
#

impossible to make it ingame

terse moss
#

I thought the perfect ritual means we just take their domain

eternal veldt
#

No

terse moss
#

It would effectively just make the terrarian respawning canon

eternal veldt
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It's mainly coded to what the terrarian is

eternal veldt
#

Bit still far fetched

terse moss
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Fair

eternal veldt
#

What if we just mine aerie rock for armor

terse moss
#

Is Yharim primarily a mage or melee

eternal veldt
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Probobly meelee

terse moss
dusk laurel
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no

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aerie rock is what xeroc gives you at the end of boss rush

terse moss
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Hm

eternal veldt
dusk laurel
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its basically indestructible to like most things except xeroc

terse moss
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What made the Aerie? Zeratros?

eternal veldt
dusk laurel
#

also terminus seems to be made of the same material unless they just coincidentally look like the same type of rocks but arent

dusk laurel
terse moss
dusk laurel
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why would he tho

terse moss
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Because we are wearing it while trying to kill him

dusk laurel
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its always can they but not why

dusk laurel
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wait you mean the armor?

terse moss
#

Yeah

eternal veldt
#

LMAO

terse moss
#

For a hypothetical aerie armor

dusk laurel
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LMAO mb 😭

terse moss
#

Nah, ur all good

dusk laurel
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uhhhh i mean probably

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itd take some effort but he probably could

terse moss
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But he could do that for anything else too

dusk laurel
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i mean youd probably get cooked inside the armor before he breaks all of it off but well

terse moss
#

He could just atomize auric with the sun

eternal veldt
eternal veldt
terse moss
#

Bro is going to hit the tri beam

eternal veldt
#

That place ancient after all.

eternal veldt
# terse moss Bro is going to hit the tri beam

Imagine if ascending with yharon's soul did make respawning canon. How would it even buff us exactly though. We already have that in game. Maybe it makes so bosses don't despawn when we die??

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LMAO

terse moss
#

That would be fire

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We run that fade back

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One revive per boss fight

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Dr strange vs dormamu it

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The terrarian walking up to Xeroc for their 4863rd attempt (he is going to kill himself)

eternal veldt
terse moss
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That would be fire actually

eternal veldt
#

XEROC!!!! PULL UP AND RUN THEM HANDS!!!!

terse moss
#

It’s like 800 years later and you show up again with a new sword you pulled from betwixt your cheeks so that you can get him to 60% health instead of 62%

eternal veldt
terse moss
#

true

eternal veldt
# terse moss *true*

What would be worst is when you killed this guy 420billion times already and he got you to 1% health. On the last figh instead of pulling out a sword he pulled out a music box and starts cranking it while you fight.

terse moss
#

Bro starts cranking it during the fight? AYO?

eternal veldt
#

he needs that music theme

terse moss
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The terrarian is a freak fr

eternal veldt
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AYOOO NOT THAT CRANK!!!