lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

this is the peak of human interaction right here

[dusk laurel]

this is my gaster deltarune survey program device friend image forgotten man egg gaster blaster CORE green

[wind kelp]

literally zero interaction in this image

[patent sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[split mortar]

For a bit i thiught that was a mc texturepack

[patent sky]

Embed failure

[limpid saddle]

no thats just ireland

[wind kelp]

😆

[wanton pendant]

Mortal phones cannot capture the beauty of the Emerald Isle.

[dusk laurel]

okay

[split mortar]

Ok ireland

[dusk laurel]

so

lore

mhm

[patent sky]

Hmm

Yes lore things yes

[wanton pendant]

Lore...

[patent sky]

I’m prolly gonna watch a video on the lore tonight to get myself a good starting point

[wanton pendant]

There aren't good lore videos.

[patent sky]

Great

[wanton pendant]

If you don't want to consult my benevolence directly, there is a lore document in pins. Second one, first is a list of everything mentioned in-game.

[patent sky]

I’ll do that tonight instead

I do like reading

[wind kelp]

neerdddd

[patent sky]

Okay mr electron scientist

Go solve nuclear fusion or something

[untold parrot]

Who is Xeroc

[wanton pendant]

The first god.

They got their Godly Soul by absorbing the Auric Soul of the King of the Dragons.

They're the most powerful character in the canon.

Yharim wants them dead, same with all other gods.

[untold parrot]

Sounds like Xeroc would be a pretty cool boss

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc might be a boss in the future.

[untold parrot]

If they add him he’d probably be out in like a decade

[split mortar]

Yeah thats why the guy is a planned post game superboss spar

[wanton pendant]

But you won't kill them.

[wind kelp]

try & sto pme

[untold parrot]

I think it could be some kind of test

Like with the Nameless Deity

[wanton pendant]

It will be a sparring match.

[split mortar]

Boss rush is a test

[untold parrot]

true

isn’t the Nameless Deity also Xeroc? (But not canon)

[wanton pendant]

A test to see if you're worthy to do... something... and it seems you're not.

No.

Nameless Deity is God.

[untold parrot]

So like a test… For The Worthy

[wanton pendant]

Like some kind of get fixed boi.

[split mortar]

Nameless deity even before being released to the public was changed from being literally old lore plans of xeroc to heavily inspired and is nowadays basically an entirely seperate character iirc

[untold parrot]

then who is he

or they

like did they also consume a dragon soul

[wanton pendant]

No.

Nameless Deity is God.

Like, literally God.

Like, Biblical.

[untold parrot]

Biblical god?

[split mortar]

God of the universe

[wanton pendant]

To be more specific, it's an amalgamation of the concept of God from various cultures.

In short, Nameless Deity is God.

[untold parrot]

Ok so that’s why he has his own little heaven

to some extent

[wanton pendant]

I think it's themed around the Garden of Eden or something.

Probably other inspirations.

[limpid saddle]

I had a really good joke about a 'slice of heaven' but i dont know any american chain restaurants with that tagline so i couldnt follow through

[light linden]

long story short

they are both non canon and God

[abstract hedge]

IIRC Nameless is meant to be capital G God and is only very loosely based on old lore Xeroc (before auric souls were a thing).

WotG has very weird powerscaling compared to calamity, tbf it is going to be changed to not be a Calamity addon in the future iirc.

[untold forge]

They are the creator of everything in that addon basically

[plucky juniper]

so in short if you try to assume WoTG is canon to Calamity, most likely ND created the world soul

[eternal veldt]

Whos the bestest girl for anyone here who played wrath of the gods. Calamitas or solyn

[hollow pivot]

Calamitas is a mass-murderer so I don't really see the moral debate.

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[hollow pivot]

Maybe spoiler it if it's a spoiler?

[eternal veldt]

Oops

Sorry

[eternal veldt]

You haven't played the mod yet?

[hollow pivot]

I've played WotG.

[eternal veldt]

Nice. Im still waiting for them to make it a standalone mod though

[eternal veldt]

The mod doesn't fit calamity at all

[late sparrow]

Especially that clusterfuck boss with the mishmashed photo assets

I say this as someone who enjoyed deltarune chapter 3

[eternal veldt]

I'd say the story is great and implications but i hope it doesn't rely on calamity. It's something like a lovecraftian horrors type

I dig it though specially with terrarian's cthulhu

[late sparrow]

Actually a better comparision would be flowey x if i were to do anything utdr

Flirting vs harassment

[eternal veldt]

Errr maybe but it is essentially lovecraftian horror. Undertale or deltarune doesn't feel like that

[late sparrow]

The way i see it

It's trying too hard

OOH LOOK AT ME IM THE CRAZY INCOMPREHENSIBLE BOSS WOW LOOK AT THESE STATUES AND SYMBOLS WOAH!!!1!1!

[eternal veldt]

Lol yeah they needa fix a few stuff but i like the implications and the horror aspects of it

There isn't really a good horror mod for terraria

For obvious reasons

[long bloom]

calamity overhaul is plenty horrific

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

[late sparrow]

It's hard to make a horror mod for such an open game

I've never played Overhaul what's the joke

Is it just really awful

[long bloom]

yeah it's just dogshit

and corrupts your files

and steals tons of code and assets

[eternal veldt]

The only way you can effectively make terraria horror is basically what Wotg did. But needs better refining

Take notes from lovecraft fr fr

[eternal veldt]

I liked certain parts of the mod though but it's insanely small compared to it's issues

[late sparrow]

Don't take too many notes if you have a pet cat

[eternal veldt]

Lmao

They basically have to give the illusion of helplessness for impending doom or some dark mysterious stuff like Mandela catalogue

Bossfight is a bit mid though since i didn't even have to use my rage and adrenaline to beat them.

[waxen sage]

a little low brow but i think it fits

[long bloom]

nah they're right

[late sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/earthbound-halloween-hack-dr-andonuts-toby-fox-undertale-gif-1725293708277512341

bro

[waxen sage]

🙂‍↕️

[late sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/earthbound-halloween-hack-dr-andonuts-toby-fox-undertale-gif-1725293708277512341

TWICE

my luck is awful today

anyways i think that it's a subjective matter

i just like more vanilla like things in terraria

[waxen sage]

LOOK AT MOON LORD

[late sparrow]

that's at least sprited

[eternal veldt]

Moon lord is a joke and doesn't even scare me.

[late sparrow]

(for what it's worth i don't really like moon lord either)

What do I like...?

Avalon 1.2. I'm a MOD PURIST.

MY NAME IS TEDDY MOTHER 1

[eternal veldt]

I like mods that scares me even with endgame gear. Mods that makes me feel hopeless

Ok it just makes me sound masochistic

But

Yeah i have no defence for myself

[sinful adder]

I had an idea for a calamity sequel that I think is really cool

[hollow pivot]

👀

[sinful adder]

Years after the events of the original game, Draedon gradually expands into a larger entity, with a distributed brain rather than a single body. The original player, concerned about the threat draedon poses, attempts to infect him with the astral Infection. The individual components of draedon are able to be infected due to lacking individual sentience, and draedon ejects the infected components. This results in Draedon being split in two, and there is now effectively an Astral Draedon and the original weakened draedon. The Astral one has the same mind as the original but with the will of the astral Infection. The two of them fight for control over all of draedon's systems, and end up in a total war lasting hundreds of years, with both growing to counteract the other

[robust osprey]

reign of

[simple tangle]

if the world was good we'd have a couple calamitas amvs out there

[sinful adder]

After a few decades of peace, the world is once again plagued by destruction. Astral Draedon's army of machines infect or consume anything they find. Any living creature in its held territory is destroyed if it is lucky, and any sapient being unlucky enough to be caught are transformed by astral infected plague into servants which work tirelessly to spread the infection until their bodies give out.

[robust osprey]

basically

Calamity: The Revenge of Astrum Aureus

[sinful adder]

Civilizations lucky enough to exist within Draedon's controlled territory are allowed to live and are not deliberately harmed, but any with access to rare or useful materials are quickly "persuaded" to contribute to the war effort, usually by a fleet of war machines

[robust osprey]

the only thing is that the terrarian has a decision YOU hold no power on

😔

[sinful adder]

Oh, the original terrarian in this isn't involved

[robust osprey]

well you said the original player

did I misunderstood

[sinful adder]

I mean yeah I guess. I mean like: there is a canon action of the original player that is now out of the picture by the time you interact with this new story

Upon a lost mountain in the sky, ruins of dozens of infected exo mechs litter the landscape. At its peak, still crackling with power, a husk of a man sits slumped over in auric armor, a pair of broken, yet still gleaming scissor swords laying on the ground at its sides. The infection cannot claim this place.

Some other features of this world:
In the center of the heartlands, a massive living wood tree drips sparkling slime from its leaves. Under its branches sits a strange sight: a collection of misshapen houses inhabited by slimes.

In a once putrid sea, giant stalks of coral sprout from the ground, and ocean waves seem to flow in and out of the rocks as if breathing. A symphony of life works in harmony to filter out and repurpose chemical waste into vital nutrients for all manner of creatures.

(do you guys want to hear more of this? I have more ideas to write)

[scenic olive]

War against Gods Terraria Calamity

War Against AI Calamity 2 plot ahh

[sinful adder]

I can't tell if that's a good or bad response

[pulsar ocean]

This is just like in jujutsu kaisen

[raw nest]

How does the guide lore differ in calamity compared to vanilla

[sinful adder]

What

[long bloom]

in vanilla he maybe might literally just be the wall of flesh and/or moonlord's brother, or a secret third thing??? nobody knows really

in calamity he's a former warlock apprentice from azafure and the wall of flesh's keeper/shepherd

the wall itself was made out of sacrificed azafurians by request of yharim, with the purpose of sealing essence of slain gods

[pulsar ocean]

Literally jjk

[raw nest]

There was still Azafurians alive after the battle between Calamitas and brimstone elemental?

[long bloom]

anyone that wasn't in the city that day

[raw nest]

Ahh I see

[long bloom]

his wife died though

rip

[raw nest]

Alright bro 😔

So why does he like come back after wall of flesh

Or is it just a different guide or gameplay purposes

[long bloom]

if i had to guess, that's just gameplay and he canonically dies

[raw nest]

Rip

[long bloom]

but i don't know for sure

the reason guide voodoo dolls are a thing is because demons saw him controlling wof and were like "woah that dude must be like a deity or something" and started worshipping him

and sacrifice is pretty big in their culture

[pulsar ocean]

So why was wof keeping the world from being fucked up

[long bloom]

lots of god essence in one place is how you create more evil biomes

yharim's fine with just the 2

it's free propaganda after all
"hey look at how fucked up and evil the gods are if their corpses turned into this"
*conveniently hides the hallow and doesn't mention it ever*

[pulsar ocean]

How did he hide an entire biome in wof

[long bloom]

stuffed the god essence into it

with magic or something

btw he didn't do it, he made warlocks do it

[raw nest]

Interesting, so in calamity the hallow isn’t overwhelmingly benevolent?

Cuz in vanilla terraria lore the hallow is yes technically good, but it’s like it’ll do whatever to achieve good yknow?

[long bloom]

i suppose you could see it that way

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn’t dog just excavate all the dirt in the hallow and the evil biomes to eat up the god essence

[long bloom]

would you eat a hamburger that's been sitting on the sidewalk for 80 years

[pulsar ocean]

It’s still god essence

Not like it’s for him

[long bloom]

it's not worth it man

there's much better sources

like already alive gods

also yharim wants to keep the biomes around for free propaganda

as mentioned previously

[raw nest]

Was it ever revealed why the brimstone elemental attacked Azafure?

[long bloom]

nop

[pulsar ocean]

Dog is doing a poor job
Providence is a free meal but dog is busy doing fuckall

[raw nest]

And why Calamitas has brimstone powers similar to the brimstone Elemental?

[cedar path]

I wouldn't call provi free exactly, she'd put up a bit of a fight

[long bloom]

the popular (all but confirmed) theory is that she absorbed some of brimmy's power

[cedar path]

dog would win of course but

idk about free

also hello

[raw nest]

How did she do that? Why would she do that especially at her age when the battle took place?

[long bloom]

:idk:

[raw nest]

Alrighty 👍

And why is current Calamitas like way stronger than the brimstone elemental? Is it cuz she trained her powers with the archmage?

[long bloom]

also she's way too slippery
teleports away like a bitch
the only reason you're able to kill her is that she's turbo pissed that you killed her polycule

[long bloom]

presumably

[cedar path]

also true

[long bloom]

also presumably brimmy was way stronger in the past

but obviously not scal strong

[raw nest]

Why is she weakened now?

[cedar path]

fight with scal weakened her

[long bloom]

from getting her power absorbed

presumably

that gives me a thought

i wonder if the old lore thing still applies where elementals are stronger the more people worship them

i've never seen it mentioned since the rewrite, but i've also never seen it explicitly deconfirmed

[raw nest]

This might be old lore but I swear I read something that the brimstone elemental attacked azafure because of the pollution or something azafure was causing

[cedar path]

ehhh I would assume no

[long bloom]

that's a theory

a game theory

[cedar path]

elementals are stronger the more of their element exists

[long bloom]

they mention it in her bestiary

[cedar path]

don't think worship has anything to do with it

[long bloom]

i've also never seen this confirmed or deconfirmed

[cedar path]

I mean Yharim tells us an elementals goal is to expand their domain and while he lies a lot

why would he lie about this?

[long bloom]

the bestiary says that

so it's objectively true

it's not said that it makes them stronger though

[cedar path]

I think you could infer

[raw nest]

Anyways must’ve sucked to been brimmy imagine your just peacefully slumbering only for people above you to start polluting your living space so you semi-rightfully begin wreaking havoc on them only for a young girl to steal some of your powers and somehow match your own power and severely weaken you for the rest of your existence

[long bloom]

perhaps

[cedar path]

ye brimmy got a bad deal

[long bloom]

and then you get unceremoniously killed 20 years later by some guy with a shark gun

[craggy sparrow]

I think eventually if we manage to kill yharim its easy to create a kind of peaceful era

considering the almost unlimited energy resource we can have with draedons tech

and other resources

[cedar path]

ealso easy to create peace when everyone is friggin dead

[raw nest]

“Completely Awesome”

[craggy sparrow]

Hopefully the other kingdoms in the other continents are still alright

or just hanging by a thread

[raw nest]

Is Cthulhu in the calamity mythos or nah?

[long bloom]

i'm sure the evil hell continent is fine

[cedar path]

I think some dev mentioned at some point at least half the world is dead

[long bloom]

no

[craggy sparrow]

actually im crine we might've fucked them when we entered hardmode

[raw nest]

cuz I know in calamity Cthulhu and fovos aren’t the same thing

[cedar path]

but one dev statement does not make truth

[long bloom]

cthulhu is a draconic language word for great beast

[cedar path]

also yeah we def unleashed hell

[craggy sparrow]

dont worry guys

ill share my super awesome loot

i got from killing this guy

[cedar path]

just sell them a clentaminator!

[craggy sparrow]

and looting his crib

[long bloom]

[craggy sparrow]

Resource wars isn't going to happen methinks

since the population is mostly dead

[raw nest]

Since crimson and corruption and hallow is leftover god essence does that mean the clentaminator/terraformer has anti-god essence properties

[craggy sparrow]

and also yharim large magic storage facility

has everything

[long bloom]

shrug

[cedar path]

making peace also requires having draedon not fuck anything up

[raw nest]

Potential steampunker upscale?

[cedar path]

which could be easy or it could be v hard

[craggy sparrow]

Trap him

in a teleporter

[raw nest]

Kill that boy

[cedar path]

the man is made of code

[long bloom]

he's focused on wireless teleportation rn
i don't see how that could wreak much havoc on the world at large

[cedar path]

killing him is not possible unless you like

destroy all tech on the planet

[long bloom]

also yeah that
it's like trying to kill the entire internet

he always has another backup

[craggy sparrow]

Just like irl governments

and the us after ww2

we'll employ him

Surely he wont backstab us

[cedar path]

you joke but like

[raw nest]

[cedar path]

yeah path of least resistance is to cooperate with him

[craggy sparrow]

We cant do anything

if we kill him a technological dark age will happen

[cedar path]

he'd def be interested in seeing a peaceful society develop

[craggy sparrow]

and hes the only path rn to free clean energy

for life

[cedar path]

having seen war for so long

[raw nest]

Have the greatest minds (goblin tinkerer mechanic steampunker) develop some computer virus that will fuck up his consciousness

and make him suffer an eternity in jumbled messed up code

[long bloom]

he can make a perfect counter/antivirus before it does anything

[craggy sparrow]

Gt and ms aren't that smart

[raw nest]

[craggy sparrow]

They might be the only smart people we have in our towns but

thats only because nobody else lives in the evil ass continent

[cedar path]

permafrost is smart just not tech smart

I assume

[craggy sparrow]

for all we know theres other people smarter

and also yeah

permafrost

[cedar path]

also we are pretty smart

[craggy sparrow]

Not my terrarian

i canonically made them rely on the mechanic and goblin tinkerer to craft my shit

[raw nest]

Crafting has an in lore explanation right?

[craggy sparrow]

taking months to make an item

[raw nest]

Like it’s something only the terrarian can do?

[cedar path]

no

[long bloom]

yeah, the terrarian is just fucking cracked out of their mind

and can make insane technology inexplicably

[craggy sparrow]

Terrarian i laced yo shit

your health pot is laced

[cedar path]

realt talk does terrarian replicate exo tech without draedon eventually?

figure out the sea prism infinite energy hack?

[raw nest]

I’d say yes

[long bloom]

no

you don't have the means

you have to etch microscopic carvings in each prism in just the right way

[raw nest]

Given enough trial and error I’d say the terrarian can do anything with the right materials

[mighty zenith]

maybe with enough time you could but you do just get exo prisms from the exo mechs

[long bloom]

hai garbo

[cedar path]

I think we'd be able to make a very crude version

def one that would take up a lot of space

[long bloom]

steal the giant ass prism from the sunken sea lab

[raw nest]

Dude the power gap between yharim and xeroc is so huge and as of now the terrarian is still weaker than yharim i wonder how we’ll close that gap for when xeroc eventually comes to the mod

[craggy sparrow]

if you think about it

[cedar path]

we don't close the gap

[long bloom]

you won't

[craggy sparrow]

draedon is jeff bezos if he was really smart

[long bloom]

the xeroc fight will be a spar

[craggy sparrow]

i wonder what the employee benefits are

[cedar path]

better than working with amazon except sometimes the experiments kill you

[craggy sparrow]

Draedon

can i have paternal leave

and free dental

[cedar path]

yes

when you come back there will be a new death machine in the lab

which kills you

[craggy sparrow]

Draedon reportedly pays 5 gold per hour

[cedar path]

where does he get all his resources without Yharim?

[raw nest]

We’ll see. I for one am a terrarian glazer and will take any opportunity to upscale them

[cedar path]

is he just mining the world?

[craggy sparrow]

Mining equipments

[long bloom]

unmatched power of the sun

[long bloom]

yes

see: burrower

[craggy sparrow]

lore entries says they have large ass mining mechs

ish

[cedar path]

I see

[craggy sparrow]

its only implied

[mighty zenith]

destroyer is repurposed mining equipment

[cedar path]

so his focus on wireless teleportation is presumably to get to mine more shit from like asteroids and stuff?

in order to avoid drying up Terraria?

[craggy sparrow]

Probably

[long bloom]

it's probably to explore planets outside the solar system

[craggy sparrow]

but he might just be mining other planets

[cedar path]

he does say that yes

[craggy sparrow]

Draedon

i need you to make an endless renewable resource maker

[cedar path]

just duplicate crystal shards lmao wut?

[craggy sparrow]

that got patched

by the elder gods

(re logic)

[cedar path]

[raw nest]

Do you guys know what the second phase of scal’s sprite is depicting?

I can’t really tell what it’s trying to convey

[mighty zenith]

pretty sure its meant to be her preparing spells?

[random mulch]

she's trying to go super saiyan

[cedar path]

she's got a flying platform to make her flying even more fly

[split mortar]

When you steal something from someome they tend to lack that thing

[split mortar]

Even if you upscale them, unmatched power of the sun is still unmatched

Atleast with ingame stuff

[cloud ibex]

increased aura

[raw nest]

Ohhh now I see it

[wanton pendant]

Magic runes.

Because the red mood lighting wasn't enough.

[real glen]

The sprite in second image basically appears when she does bullet hell attack
or summoning Sepulcher and hearts
or summoning brothers

She uses first one when doing Attack Cycle, and after summoning what mentioned above

Strong spells basically

[eternal veldt]

In a crossover fight who do you think would be stronger.

Nameless deity or xeroc?

[wanton pendant]

Nameless Deity.

[split mortar]

Nameless deity is like
Literally the universe or smth

[wanton pendant]

Because, and I cannot stress this enough, a really strong guy cannot defeat the almighty power of God.

[split mortar]

^

[eternal veldt]

But a post calamitas terrarian could technically survive it

[wanton pendant]

The test.

That was not the full power of God.

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[split mortar]

Aint that a test and not anything comparable to what God does

[wanton pendant]

BECAUSE THAT IS LITERALLY INFINITE.

The gap between a Green Slime and Nameless Deity is about equal to the gap between Xeroc and Nameless Deity.

[eternal veldt]

Damn

[wanton pendant]

Omnipotent.

The power to do anything.

[real glen]

The crazy dead god vs the god that literally universe

[eternal veldt]

How about avatar of emptiness then?

[wanton pendant]

Presumably not omnipotent.

[eternal veldt]

So it would be a close fight

[wanton pendant]

Considering it was something that the Terrarian could fight, no, I would assume based on my knowledge that Xeroc would win.

[eternal veldt]

Nope terrarian didn't stand a chance. Nameless was the one who saved them. It was only playing with the terrarian that time

[split mortar]

Isnt aoe like
God of a dead universe

[eternal veldt]

Yeah from what i read atleast idk much about the full story but it seems like he was a god of a universe that doesn't exist anymore

[split mortar]

Think it was a universe that succumbed to heat death?

[eternal veldt]

How so?

Because of the lavas and stuff?

[split mortar]

Havent played im just remembering what others have said here

[wheat walrus]

they all think they me

[wanton pendant]

But you're YOU!

[eternal veldt]

Who you?

[split mortar]

Wdym

[eternal veldt]

Nahh im him!

[split mortar]

Also mold why did you send dis

[wheat walrus]

melon

[split mortar]

What

[wheat walrus]

i thought it was obvious

[wanton pendant]

Because Miku, duh.

[wheat walrus]

wuwugee summoned me

and the p*werscaling stirred me

twas unavoidable

[split mortar]

Is it that someone used the word omnipotent while discussing fiction which is a not concrete thing and so is their interpretation of it?

[wheat walrus]

what do you call me

[wanton pendant]

I mean, omnipotent is quite concrete since it literally means the power to do anything.

[split mortar]

Mold

[mighty zenith]

the mold chimera

[wanton pendant]

You cannot powerscale infinite, unrestricted power.

[mighty zenith]

says so right there

[split mortar]

^

[wheat walrus]

what DID you call me

[split mortar]

Mold

[wheat walrus]

when asking me about the image

[wheat walrus]

that does NOT say mold melon

[split mortar]

It does

[wheat walrus]

FUCK YOU

😭😭😭

[split mortar]

Says mold

[mighty zenith]

dont say that

[wheat walrus]

mb

[real glen]

[split mortar]

Incomprehensible have a day not even fatalis could comprehend

[mighty zenith]

👍

[wheat walrus]

y r we implying Fatalis' thing is comprehending higher beings

[split mortar]

Bro dont know

[wanton pendant]

Is Fatalis not enlightened? Have they not achieved... something something buddhism.

[wheat walrus]

Why is melon speaking like a trollface edit

[wheat walrus]

Fair enough

[split mortar]

Idk

I just do stuff

[wheat walrus]

Thematically speaking, Fatalis is lowkadachi Buddha

[split mortar]

Anyways i think i found a glitch where pulse grenade consumes all stealth even if you have ruin medallion on

[eternal veldt]

Daytime empress vs night time providence?

[wheat walrus]

eats melon gun's right arm

have a good day

[wanton pendant]

It's Blue Providence.

[split mortar]

Didnt cal remove the oneshot from empress idr

[wanton pendant]

And Blue Providence is very powerful.

[split mortar]

Also yeah provi no longer night based

[eternal veldt]

RIP

[split mortar]

Why

[wanton pendant]

Why not?

[wheat walrus]

Is Blue Providence literally just the title

[real glen]

Theres no night prov
Its blue prov now

[wanton pendant]

She's Providence, and she's blue.

Dabadee daba die.

[split mortar]

Her title does not change

She just becomes blue and stronger

Afaik

[eternal veldt]

If they did then she doesn't stand a chance im asking when she does?

[mighty zenith]

BLOVIDENCE

[split mortar]

If she has the oneshot then i think she defeats everyone but xeroc 😭

[wheat walrus]

throws a handful of sharp razor blades at wuwugee

Dismantle.

[split mortar]

Cause like 60K damage a hit is bit hard to tank (think thats her damage in day)

[wanton pendant]

Then we're asking if the one shot is purely a game mechanic and thus exaggerated in gameplay or if she can literally atomize anything.

[wanton pendant]

Weak.

[split mortar]

Tho providence forces the fight to be 3:30 mins long if blue so dps actually doesnt matter i think

[wheat walrus]

Scale Of The Dragon

Recoil

Twin Meteors

literally just murders you

Dismantle

[wanton pendant]

Nah, I don't feel like it.

[eternal veldt]

Well she uses a percent of xeroc's powers right? Or borrowing atleast. Yk what i mean

[wheat walrus]

okay wuwugee

[split mortar]

She uses primordial light

[wanton pendant]

We do not know that. She might be siphoning their power, she might be doing it to something else.

[split mortar]

Thats about it afaik

[wheat walrus]

Throws a smoldering molotov at melon gun

Fuuga.

[eternal veldt]

Bruh empress needs better lore refining

[wanton pendant]

They just did.

[split mortar]

They did that this update

[eternal veldt]

I see

Haven't checked yet

Well how about just normal providence then and like daytime primordial light empress?

[wanton pendant]

She's a demigod now. Thing is, demigods are normal people with no extra powers, since being a god isn't genetic. So she like, did a training montage.

[wanton pendant]

Providence.

Wait, no, daytime.

It's closer then.

[cedar path]

powerscaler spotted 😡 deploying 🔥 👉 🤯

[eternal veldt]

There we go a fun matchup

[split mortar]

Demigods are just the draconic offshoots of gods

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, exactly.

[wheat walrus]

powerscaling daughter or shipping son

[cedar path]

how about a normal NB child

[split mortar]

Im not normal

[eternal veldt]

Would be interesting to see.

Moth thing vs butterfly thing

[wanton pendant]

Is living alone in the woods an option?

[cedar path]

one day fandoms will escape the vs questions

[eternal veldt]

Never!!!

[cedar path]

who wins, gulp shitto or blorbino mungus

[real glen]

Mario vs sonic incident

[eternal veldt]

Gulp shitto nigh universal

[eternal veldt]

Sonic wins purely because nintendo as a company is ass

[wheat walrus]

never, ts existed for as long as humans did

[wanton pendant]

'Who would win, Grug or Great Bear of the Forest?'

[wheat walrus]

Ok jokes aside

Powerscaling is, quite literally, an instinctive thing; "powerscaling" things around us helped us surviving, and even in today's world, being able to compare what's better is an important aspect of life. So it's engrained into us to powerscale

[wanton pendant]

There's one small issue. People don't know what hyperbole is.

[wheat walrus]

There's more issues than that

[cedar path]

look I get it

[wheat walrus]

In terms of powerscaling

[cedar path]

but like

uneven ground can determine the outcome of a fight, so can luck, so can friggin anything

[wanton pendant]

Phythagorean Theorem...

[wheat walrus]

What does that even have to do with what I said

[cedar path]

I'm saying that you're right, it is ingrained

[eternal veldt]

Grug wins cuz grug rhymes with victory

[cedar path]

but making it the whole point of a story or basing your entire understanding of a story around it

[wanton pendant]

True, rhymes with Grug.

[cedar path]

is pointless

[wanton pendant]

We need to start doing something clearly more important, trauma scaling.

[eternal veldt]

Sea king on top

Bro has a heart of gold fr fr

[cedar path]

yeah Amidias def top 1

[wheat walrus]

Once again, what does that even have to do with what I said

[cedar path]

forget it

[eternal veldt]

Best boy of the entire calamity characters

[wheat walrus]

Okay enough playing stupid. I know what you're trying to say, and I don't think it checks out because that is not what powerscaling is

Powerscaling is literally just estimating the power of something, often in fiction

[wheat walrus]

What you mentioned here is only a part of it

[eternal veldt]

Powerscaling is usefull in games so that players can determine a satisfying outcomes for bossfights

[wheat walrus]

Yep!!

Powerscaling is also useful in writing, as having a consistent powerscale helps driving in narratives while leaving less holes in it

[eternal veldt]

If the devs made something stupid powerfull in story but a joke in the game. The devs would be eaten alive by the community with jokes and slanders

[wheat walrus]

Yea that too

[cedar path]

the part that pisses me off is when powerscales get mad at a story because the character they think is stronger lost a fight to someone

"Weaker"

[wanton pendant]

Cough, Xeroc cough.

[wheat walrus]

I consider myself a powerscaler, and used to do that quite a lot, and I think that behavior is silly

[cedar path]

like yes having a consistent magic system/power scale/whatever is important

[wheat walrus]

I know a whole bunch of others who are powerscalers and see it like me

[eternal veldt]

Yep LMAO that's why i was asking back then how will they even add xeroc as a boss.

[cedar path]

but it's not the give all take all of a figfht

[wheat walrus]

I also know people who are far worse than what you mentioned

I'd say the powerscaling community is generally bad, but it's annoying to see people be annoyed at the very concept of it wholly because of it

[eternal veldt]

Batman vs superman moment LMAO

[cedar path]

you know what, fair enough

good take

[wanton pendant]

Batman wins because he's DC's special boy.

[eternal veldt]

I feel like batman fans are just ragebaiting at this point

[wheat walrus]

Or because of VSBattles Wiki and similars, even; powerscaling is much broader than Island Level this Star Level that, and the tiering system is only 1 way to do it (having used it for quite a bit, I think it has its flaws icl)

[eternal veldt]

That's just fake powerscalers

[cedar path]

oh the tiering system is so extremely annoying

[eternal veldt]

Real powerscaling will take into account the story

[wheat walrus]

larpscalers

[icy veldt]

I find it annoying to see powerscalers be annoyed at people being annoyed by how annoying their pointless shouting contests are

[wheat walrus]

True

[cedar path]

I find annoying

[eternal veldt]

Annoying

Fnd ayng

[wheat walrus]

When I was more active into this stuff I used to jump between getting a lot of flack from powerscalers and then a lot of flack from people who hate powerscalers (but are basically powerscalers themselves), so yea

[eternal veldt]

Ad yg

[eternal veldt]

Powerscalers tend to ignore the story and mostly smooth brained

But jeez batmans plot armor is just too much

[icy veldt]

More on topic for the channel, that reminds me a little bit of how people think that "not all dragons were evil! some of them were good!" even though the assumption that the dragons were innocent by default is the same reasoning that Yharim started with to justify his crusade that pretty much demolished almost every functioning civilization

[cedar path]

to be fair a lot of people don't read the huge lore doc

and only go off whats in game

[wanton pendant]

Tell me about it.

[cedar path]

which is mostly Yharim

so I see how it can be easy to fall into that trap

[icy veldt]

I find it annoying when people claim "we should learn from history so we can avoid repeating the mistakes of the past!" even though the lessons that they learn will invariably result in history being repeated even more horrifically should they be applied

[wind kelp]

we learn from history so we can abuse what we learn in our favour, if you look at it from a net standpoint it seems like baseless repetition but it rarely is, to say history rhymes more than it repeats is more correct for that reason

[cedar path]

🔥 history rhymes more than it repeats🔥

[reef wigeon]

Sephiroth moment

[wanton pendant]

Lore economy in shambles. We're going to starve.

[dusk laurel]

what did you mean by this

[wanton pendant]

No lore discussions. No lore questions.

How am I meant to make lorebucks?

To feed my lorefamily.

And pay my lorerent.

I'm going to lose the lorehouse.

[split mortar]

Shrimple, alt accounts to make a fake demand

[wanton pendant]

That's market manipulation.

I don't want to go the way of the Yujinaka.

[leaden bridge]

u literally just got bestiary drops

back in my day we had to survive off mililiters of the stuff per year

[split mortar]

Im still playing and once i finish ill get back into full loreing

[wanton pendant]

You took my only food, now I'm going to starve!

[leaden bridge]

u newgens are so weak

[long bloom]

fr

[wanton pendant]

You would lost a fight to a Female Sheargrub.

[dusk laurel]

the greedy will be absorbed into the flowing river

[hollow pivot]

Can someone explain what the roots are in Providence's design? Are they Tarragon?

[wanton pendant]

I don't think there's any good reason.

Sprite predates lore.

[split mortar]

Tarragon is gonna be nuked so uh old sprite reason i think

[hollow pivot]

Would ash not fit more?

[hollow pivot]

Wait they're getting rid of Tarragon?

[split mortar]

It would yeah, outdated sprite tho

[split mortar]

Partially cause it makes no sense in general and also plant set numero 5 iirc
Gonna be replaced with actual provi stuff i think

[wanton pendant]

But yeah, Providence has nothing to do with plants.

Beyond burning them.

[hollow pivot]

It would be cool if every god's death created a new ore-like material in the ground as if Terraria is being repaired as the auric souls come back to it.

[wanton pendant]

I mean, technically we know what dead gods do to the landscape.

And it is the opposite of repair.

And gods don't have Auric Souls.

[hollow pivot]

I thought gods had auric in their souls?

[wanton pendant]

No.

They have Godly Souls.

[long bloom]

ehh

it's like baking a cake

[wanton pendant]

Which were made from Auric Souls.

[long bloom]

you mix everything together

you can't separate the components anymore
it's a different thing

[hollow pivot]

If you try hard enough you can.

[long bloom]

no

you can't

no amount of chemical fuckery is gonna reform the eggs

[hollow pivot]

No, you can separate the cake back into the original materials with good enough machinery.

[long bloom]

proof?

[raven brook]

i mean technically you can in real life

like people have made cloth from shrimp shits wild

chemistry iceberg runs deep

[split mortar]

You still get the comparison no need to be needlessly smart about it

[raven brook]

however,

for the sake of the analogy

yes

you cant

or well. no you cant

ykwim

[long bloom]

i too have watched nilered

[raven brook]

its an analogy what siffrin said

[raven brook]

:fire

[long bloom]

i think this is different though

[raven brook]

love that guy

[long bloom]

byeah dude made moonshine out of toilet paper

shits crazy

[hollow pivot]

Sniper TF2?

[hollow pivot]

Can Silva just make alcohol by fermenting fruit because that's technically just bringing more life to the fruit or is that someone else's domain?

[raven brook]

ykwhat

[long bloom]

:idk:

[raven brook]

she probably could

[wanton pendant]

LET SILVA MAKE MOONSHINE!

[raven brook]

braelor infinite free beer glitch

[long bloom]

oh yeah cheese we were having a discussion last night
do you think the old lore thing still applies where elementals are stronger the more people worship them

[hollow pivot]

Braelor's Brew made with Distortion materials sounds crazy.

[raven brook]

uhhhh :idk: but im not sure

it feels kind of like

random?

[long bloom]

it was never explicitly deconfirmed afaik
i've just never heard anyone mention it since the rewrite

[raven brook]

it feels more like a god thing than a elemental thing logically speaking (and afaik gods dont have that either) so

plus,

elementals already get more powerful the more of their element they're around don't they

[long bloom]

i was also gonna ask that because idk

[hollow pivot]

Did Yharim kill half the beings on earth to weaken Silva to try kill her then?

[raven brook]

even if not directly like a stat boost or anything just inherently

more stuff for them to throw at you

[split mortar]

I mean gods sorta do iirc

[long bloom]

that is not why

[long bloom]

true

[raven brook]

Idrm exactly.,,,, i vaguely remember smth like it but idk where from

[split mortar]

Gods do get lil bit of power from worship according to guess what
Dev statements

[raven brook]

and if they do it feels like its relatively minor..?

ofc its dev statements

time to boar myself

[dusk laurel]

im gonna boar myself

[split mortar]

Lore chat when the source is dev statements: 🐗

[long bloom]

xeroc still the most powerful god with exactly 0 worshippers
what would happen if everyone knew about them

[wanton pendant]

Lore economy revitalized... stimulated... the stocks are up.

[hollow pivot]

Do the devs plan to make most of these dev statement lore accessable somehow in-game?

[raven brook]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yes why wouldnt they

[wanton pendant]

He would say 'It's Xerocing time,' and then Xeroc all over the place.

[wanton pendant]

Of course.

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

dev statements are just devs throwing out ideas

[raven brook]

that may or may not be added futurely,

cuz

if its not ingame

its not confirmed

dev statements often are unfinished ideas or things not 100% agreed upon

so until its not ingame or if its something that's 100% not being changed

[long bloom]

noxus isn't confirmed to exist

[raven brook]

take things with a grain of salt

[split mortar]

Why does your pfp still give cake vibes

[wanton pendant]

But for now it's 'It's frauding time,' and then he commits fraud all over the place.

[hollow pivot]

Like Yharim fighting Xeroc?

[raven brook]

yes

not ingame, not confirmed

[wanton pendant]

Yharim Fought The Sun Theory...

[hollow pivot]

Fraud Next Week.

[raven brook]

fraud next week

[limpid saddle]

hello calamity lore chat

[neat wave]

xeroc: potential god

[limpid saddle]

i have completed a non-calclone animation

[raven brook]

oh fire

[dusk laurel]

gun

[hollow pivot]

Chat do we think more bosses are going to get weakened sprites like Cryogen?

[split mortar]

Oh peak

[split mortar]

Unlikely

[long bloom]

i doubt it

[hollow pivot]

[limpid saddle]

it's Agent 4 from Splatoon 2

[wanton pendant]

Agent 4? What if there was 7 more?

[limpid saddle]

i dont get the reference im sorry

[wanton pendant]

Agent 47.

[long bloom]

agent 11

[limpid saddle]

almost made a terrible mistake there

[neat wave]

only other boss that i see this concept working with is ceaseless void (infernum edits the original sprite to show damage)

[wanton pendant]

Ceaseless Void is a door.

With a gun taped to it.

[hollow pivot]

I could see it working with pretty much any Construct-esque boss.

[limpid saddle]

yeah but its a door covered in curses & runes

[dusk laurel]

oh wait

polterghast

[long bloom]

[split mortar]

Oh right yeah polter having that

[hollow pivot]

A door with graffiti on it is still a door vro.

[limpid saddle]

rips in reality dont usually come with window dressing

[wanton pendant]

That's the gun taped to it.

[dusk laurel]

redesigned polterghast literally will be more damaged with each phase

[neat wave]

wasn't it scrapped tho?

[dusk laurel]

no???

[limpid saddle]

i mean you can visually convey damage through the frame

[long bloom]

it has a doorframe

[wanton pendant]

Where else do you put more guns?

[neat wave]

i might have interpreted the relic tooltip wrong

[long bloom]

oh

[wanton pendant]

What relic?

[long bloom]

that's ancient

there's a new redesign

[neat wave]

ohh ok

[split mortar]

Relic stuff is on about stuff scrapped from years ago

[neat wave]

really? whats it look like, if theres any images

[dusk laurel]

inanis polter...

theres no public image

its locked to private dms and the dev server

[long bloom]

some of the master relics are still the fables designs, so they say "a glimpse into what could have been"

[hollow pivot]

Wait is this outdated?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[neat wave]

huhhh

[long bloom]

[dusk laurel]

that was made years ago

its not even iban's newest rendition of cv

[split mortar]

Yes its years old

[limpid saddle]

rework polter is so cool

[neat wave]

it gives vaati vibes from minish cap

[limpid saddle]

I wonder how spriting on that one is lookingbif it's been touched at all

[dusk laurel]

polterghast wont be anytime soon i imagine

so no

[limpid saddle]

I imagine not based on all the work with SSO but y'know

[limpid saddle]

shhhh.....

[hollow pivot]

I am not even living under a rock atp, I am the rock.

[limpid saddle]

i know it'll come with the distortion update realistically but like shut up...

[long bloom]

i think they're talking about the polterghast redesign

[hollow pivot]

What decade is that?

[icy veldt]

Can biomancy be used to make moonshine by fermenting people?

[dusk laurel]

ohhh

[wanton pendant]

Next one.

[split mortar]

Theres a doc in #calamity-update-talk with all future plans iirc
Idk if its been updated for the big changes of brainstorm tho

[hollow pivot]

Not my blue/pink plantera!

[neat wave]

wait yeaaa i think ive seen this one

[limpid saddle]

Its such a unique design

[hollow pivot]

Why is there a non-phantasmal eye on a ghost?

[limpid saddle]

It plays on the old shtick of possessed armour so well

[long bloom]

why not

[limpid saddle]

what can ghosts not have eyes?

you a ghost racist?

[split mortar]

Why not?? Vanilla ghosts literally have eyes

[wanton pendant]

Polterghast, despite everything, has embraced Jesus Christ... somehow.

[dusk laurel]

ceaseless void

[wanton pendant]

What about it?

[dusk laurel]

why did you type ceaseless void

i need answers

[wanton pendant]

What do you mean?

[long bloom]

yeah what

[dusk laurel]

you cant gaslight me i know what you are you edited that

[icy veldt]

The face labeled 3 in the third image looks a bit sad

[long bloom]

what did he edit

[wanton pendant]

You're the one talking about Ceaseless Void, not me.

[hollow pivot]

non-phantasmal eye*

[neat wave]

because its cool

[split mortar]

Im on about the dungeon spirits theres outlines for eye on the small sprite i dont see why polter having actual eyes is odd when it is a bigger sprite

[dusk laurel]

this polter already would have flesh so i dont see it having an eye being odd

[wanton pendant]

Ghosts with flesh, what is the world coming to?

[dusk laurel]

we're coming after you

[hollow pivot]

Ghosts get bones they don't get flesh.

[dusk laurel]

thats whats gonna happen

[icy veldt]

Kinda seems like Polterghast needs a hug... which is a bit of a tautological statement in this place, now that I think about it

[wanton pendant]

Even more ludicrous.

[wanton pendant]

You're welcome to be assimilated into the ghost horde.

[hollow pivot]

But atp the flesh would have rotted beyond visibility as shown with everything else, but bones are a dungeon signature.

[long bloom]

tactical skeletons drop bbq ribs

[limpid saddle]

well, actually no

[long bloom]

thus they have flesh

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, to eat. Those are from McYharim's.

[limpid saddle]

The oldest dead people that would compose polterghast would be like max 15 year old corpses

[light linden]

random thought

did yharim make his own auric armor?

[limpid saddle]

At the lowest they could even be as fresh as a year or two

[dusk laurel]

idk

[long bloom]

shrug

[wanton pendant]

Who else could?

[hollow pivot]

The Dragon Cult had a restaurant in the dungeon, that's actually where the nuggets you use to get that amazing Yharon pet come from.

[wanton pendant]

Tactical Skeleton was in there reliving Resident Evil.

[split mortar]

I feel dev statement related to this but it would be hell torture to find so ill rather not

[light linden]

nobody to my knowledge but idt we know where he could forge the stuff

[dusk laurel]

just search like "found armor" or smth

[limpid saddle]

You feel dev statements now?

[dusk laurel]

in lore disc

[split mortar]

Im having other convos at once as well

[wanton pendant]

Anvil.

[dusk laurel]

oh damn

nvm

[hollow pivot]

If he made his armor that implies he only has one eye or that vertical eye slit in the armor is massive.

[long bloom]

wow so much

[wanton pendant]

You know Monsoon?

[dusk laurel]

2023 🔥

[hollow pivot]

Who?

[hollow pivot]

What's the DNA of the soul?

[split mortar]

Is this a surprise i feel when a dev statement is applicable

[limpid saddle]

its specifically the phrasing 'i feel dev statement related to this'

[long bloom]

i might know where a dev statement is...
...for $20

[limpid saddle]

you didnt 'feel there is' you just 'feel'

[dusk laurel]

exorbitant price who would pay for that smh my head

[hollow pivot]

EXOrbitant price?

[wanton pendant]

I get all my lore the organic, eco-friendly way. I beg the devs to tell me things.

[long bloom]

[dusk laurel]

exo-friendly...

[wanton pendant]

Does it work?
No. <3

[dusk laurel]

thats a funny concept

[hollow pivot]

Exo-Friendly, just means it doesn't use our finite amount of exotic resonance radiating matter.

[icy veldt]

I get all my lore the old-fashioned way: I make up complete nonsense

[wanton pendant]

That's been the new hobby.

[hollow pivot]

Does anyone have a link to a doc on the old lore?

[wanton pendant]

I've been passing off fanfiction as lore for weeks now. The Twitter users are certain there is a character named 'Charmblem'.

[wanton pendant]

Look up 'Calamity Old Lore doc' and weep.

[limpid saddle]

i get my lore the street-urchin way; picking up scraps in the streets & eavesdropping on the more informed

[long bloom]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14H0fmHigzvTxbQ1ipWOhD9bpN-49tN6cCs6Jb4QZRLw/edit?usp=drivesdk

[wanton pendant]

Clean my chimnney.

[dusk laurel]

victorian chimney sweep

[hollow pivot]

:weep:

[limpid saddle]

I will carry on my grandfathers legacy...

[hollow pivot]

Why does Draedon use the American dating system? I thought he was supposed to be the peak of intelligence.

[wanton pendant]

Calamity is set in a fictional universe with its own dating system. Draedon did not invent the dating system.

Do not make any jokes about the phrase 'dating system'.

[hollow pivot]

Wdym

[light linden]

ok so been thinking about this a bit more

he'd not only have to forge it himself but also mine it himself

and if he brought that to any normal blacksmith's place it'd definitely cause a titanic stir

[hollow pivot]

Remember he has Yharon to help him mine, and since he's attuned, Auric practically bends to his will.

[light linden]

yharim might have had his own personal forge somewhere

[hollow pivot]

He doesn't need a forge he has Yharon's fire breath.

[light linden]

do you have any idea how you forge armor or weapons out of metal?

heat isn't the only thing needed

[hollow pivot]

I have ideas on how to forge but it's not something I go out of my way to do extensive research on.

[light linden]

long story short

there's a variety of different methods but most ways to make a sword involve melting it, drawing it out, shaping it, taking the first steps to make the bevels (what forms the cutting edge), making stuff like the guard and handle, heat treating it (heating it to red hot and then cooling it in water), finishing the bevels, and lastly combining the blade with the hilt

it is not easy to do

and there's a decent chance it requires more steps than that because any auric he could get his hands on was likely unprocessed and of questionable purity

or hell

even if it couldn't shock him, it could likely still shock whatever equipment he was using

so that likely made things harder

not to mention the sheer pain of forging something in the blistering heat after being dumped into lava

[hollow pivot]

Pretty sure the Auric metal would be working with him since he has proper attunement.

[light linden]

that's not how it really works

him being attuned just means it won't shock and send him flying

he doesn't become magneto for auric because he's attuned

otherwise a lot of our weapons on tier for him wouldn't work

[hollow pivot]

Pretty sure that is literally what attunement does.

[light linden]

ok @cosmic zenith can you help please?

[cosmic zenith]

?

[light linden]

I don't wanna keep going in case I am wrong

[light linden]

here and down

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[light linden]

also side note

I can not imagine how fucking much that hurt

that heat is already immense

but on relatively fresh lava burns I can't even begin to imagine it

any loose spark would prolly send any regular person reeling if it touched them with his burns

[hollow pivot]

Actually, even if it's really high temperature, heat depends on size as well.

[light linden]

...

ok what's the best way to put this

burns have a noticeable effect of making affected body parts more vulnerable to temperature shifts

I personally experience this

so a small spark would prolly feel tens if not hundreds of degrees hotter with the level of burns yharim received

[fickle rune]

is yharim capable of defeating xeroc or noxus like in his prime

[long bloom]

he is in his prime

[robust osprey]

bro already is in his prime

[fickle rune]

oh my bad

[long bloom]

if you mean the height of the army, still no

[robust osprey]

xeroc is like

big leagues

[long bloom]

unmatched power of the sun

[fickle rune]

i see because i've been thinking

the auric tesla armor is the one that yharim uses, so i been thinking if we're gonna have some kind of stronger armor in the future

[long bloom]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

probably not?

[light linden]

no

[fickle rune]

just thinking loud here

[light linden]

his armor is different

[long bloom]

yharim's armor fucking explodes people when they touch it

kinda hard to beat that

[light linden]

in includes exo tech and has auric repulsion

auric repulsion zaps and sends anyone who touches his armor flying

[fickle rune]

just imagining ''wouldn't be cool if you could fuse the vanilla final armor with the auric tesla armor'' just a stupid thing that came through my mind

[light linden]

you poke the thing and it's like you touched a power line

[robust osprey]

could he cinema

[fickle rune]

like a fly touching a electric swatter

[robust osprey]

with some fucked up distortion material to fuse em

[light linden]

much worse than that

since it also sends you flying

[robust osprey]

is like a fly touching fucking Zeus

[light linden]

I still wonder how much force and how many volts auric repulsion hits you with

[robust osprey]

with Fuck You volts of force

[long bloom]

[eager bluff]

ok so for force that ones fairly easy, voltage is incredibly hard to determine
force is like 1500 pounds of pressure if i did my math correctly
voltage is probably over 600 volts but because of the way high voltage reactions work its incredibly dependent on a whole lot of other factors

(its not the voltage that ends up launching people generally, its intense muscle contractions or spasms caused by the voltage that launches them)

[waxen sage]

squints

[eternal veldt]

If empress of light is a demi god does that mean xeroc canonically got laid?

[long bloom]

we don't know who her parents are

[hollow pivot]

Silva Xeroc divorce theory.

[eternal veldt]

How does powers transfer?

[long bloom]

:idk:

[eternal veldt]

Empress is xeroc's child fr fr

[hoary cape]

Not proven

[eternal veldt]

No but it's hilarious

[long bloom]

just because she steals power from xeroc doesn't mean she's their daughter

[eternal veldt]

Yeah... but it's hilarious to think about

[robust osprey]

no you dont understand all underworld enemies are provi children beacuse they live in ash

source: trust

[eternal veldt]

Real real

[long bloom]

[eternal veldt]

Providence been putting in work

[raw nest]

Is it implied that the dead human next to draedon when he first woke up was just draedon as a human?

Also forgive me I’m reading the new lore doc for the very first time and yharon was SLAIN BY THE GOD OF WAR?

[light linden]

....huh

just had a thought

how did yharim know auric was workable for those attuned?

[long bloom]

presumably

[long bloom]

that is implied yes

a popular theory is that draedon is the result of a failed consciousness transfer that gave them amnesia

[robust osprey]

yharon told him, maybe

[raw nest]

THE god of war?

ZEUS! YOUR SON HAS RETURNED!

[long bloom]

not kratos

[robust osprey]

not THAT one

[long bloom]

different guy

god with the domain of war

[light linden]

the god of war in this you actually fight

[robust osprey]

more like the meatball you fight in the crimson

[light linden]

they're the head of what became the perforators

[raw nest]

Alright good to know 👍

[robust osprey]

that thing killed yharon

YHARON DOWNSCALE

[fleet wedge]

To be honest I don't think Draedon would really mind that
I mean, imagine all the data he could get from this

[long bloom]

guy who replies to a 4 day old message

[warm gull]

highly doubt empress is xeroc's child

would be crazy if we killed his daughter and then he was just like

"face my challenge"

[fleet wedge]

"Haha terrarian you killed my daughter"

[robust osprey]

its ok we already have many bad parents in cal whats one more

[agile matrix]

wait do we

[robust osprey]

uhhh

[agile matrix]

i only know of like one and thats Draedon on a technicality

[robust osprey]

theres OD and uhm

[agile matrix]

Old Duke's a parent???

and a bad one at that?????????

[robust osprey]

yes

his children are literal slaves iirc

for him