lore-discussion

[robust osprey]

important to note moonlord was WAY more powerful back then

[long bloom]

they almost certainly don't know the terminus even exists

[wind kelp]

yes, but if he can find the terminus why wouldnt he use it or do anything with it and learn about xeroc

[robust osprey]

like straight up outscales noxus

[long bloom]

also yeah prime fovos is the second strongest character we know

[wind kelp]

scouring the surface several time over would naturally have you finding such things no?

[robust osprey]

but yet your assumption of xeroc and full power ML being close is true

[long bloom]

behind current xeroc

[long bloom]

his technology has only recently advanced enough to explore the deeper abyss, but he thinks there's nothing down there worth checking out

[robust osprey]

there's the Evil Worm (primordial wyrm)

[long bloom]

you don't know what you don't know

also that

[robust osprey]

is far too dangerous to send an easy-to-make mech and probably too unrewarding to send an actual good mech

[light linden]

That's not the main problem

It's water pressure

[robust osprey]

that goes along with "too dangerous" imo

[wind kelp]

even for us to attain the means to descend the abyss, it is something that can be done (technologically) with the advent of luminite, would draedon who has significantly superior technology be unable to make scouting mechanisms of vastly greater capability? if it is a matter of reward vs cost, draedon is absurdly experimentative and lies entirely on the basis of discovering the unknown, in his known world is an unexplored abyss not immediately one of the most highlighted 'unknowns' thats in reach of him? if he was willing to prod at the devourers homeland and to experiment with a plague, it seems to me that he's less averse to danger and risks than he is to not being able to learn and experiment

[tropic oak]

wat

[robust osprey]

hi john xeroc

we were discussing uh

why did draedon not get the terminus

I think

[tropic oak]

probably because its a fucking regular ass rock now

bro is searching for NOTHING

[robust osprey]

thats also true lmao

I didnt think abt it before beacuse uuuhhhhh idk

tired I guess

terminus does something beacuse xeroc willingly pulls up

otherwise its just

rokc

[waxen sage]

jarvis, beat up silva and throw her in the abyss a seventh time

[wind kelp]

terminus can be triggered at any point, it also looks strikingly unique as opposed to a normal rock, and i dont see why xeroc would just ignore yharim or draedon or whomever else

[split mortar]

no one else but silva has used the terminus before due to xerocs dialogue saying the last time it was used it was not a mortal and silva used the terminus to perfect ascend so yeah
Just woke up might not be best logic ever tho

[pulsar ocean]

why would he give it so silva

as opposed to me

[split mortar]

She eats rocks

[wind kelp]

thats why i think its weird, that nobody has used it, i think realistically dreadon wouldve found it and used it or had someone use it

[sonic cosmos]

Hey

[split mortar]

Draedon has little reason to go down there tbf, why assume the abyss is special beyond being a convenient place to dump silva when close by

And it def wont lead to dragon aerie so looking for that wont result in finding the terminus

[split mortar]

Hello

[wind kelp]

'I currently aim to observe the world with a far more open mind than I once had, so that I may find further inspiration for new works. Even long after my activation and after meticulously surveying large portions of Terraria, there is much that I still do not comprehend.'
his general goal has always been advancement of science and to learn the unknown as well, this would certainly entail exploring the abyss which would be one of his biggest swaths of land that is a blindspot no?

[split mortar]

Doubt the abyss is that big
Yeah i do see why that would entail draedon looking down there maybe they just havent gotten to doing it yet idk

[wind kelp]

if it ISNT that big it makes it even more egregious that they just didnt stumble onto it one way or another especially when they say theyve 'surveyed this world's surface and skies many times over.' and having done that would directly take you to the depths of the abyss

[split mortar]

Idk about you but i dont consider going deep underwater the surface of the planet

[wind kelp]

in geology the surface is defined as the outer boundary of a planets solid crust, the ocean floor, or abyssal floor still counts as that surface

[split mortar]

Draedons looking for a sky island why would looking underwater help with that
And its a place yharim can somehow get and last i checked he aint aquaman
Looking underwater just wont help with what draedons looking for

Not in that instance at least

[wind kelp]

but that assumes hes only looking for the aerie, and besides hes been around for centuries has he really not found the desire to go through the abyss once in those centuries hes not that much of a bum

[wanton pendant]

If Draedon ever came across the Terminus, he'd probably assume it's either a strange looking rock or some old artifact.
Even if he figured out its true nature, it would be useless to him, its power can no longer be abused.

[wind kelp]

if he came across it he'd almost certainly experiment with it thats his whole nature, it'd be character elimination for him to disregard it as a rock or artifact given its nature, and it wouldnt be useless as it would allow him to learn of xeroc or to even contact him and that would probably be incredibly interesting for him

[wanton pendant]

For what reason would Draedon be compelled to experiment on 'what is now nothing more than a decaying stone tablet?' It is entirely possible that by "the boundless power it was once able to provide can no longer be taken advantage of,' Xeroc means that it has been rendered inert and thus would appear non-anomalous.

[scenic olive]

nigh indestructible stone from aerie

[pulsar ocean]

i'd destruct it

[pulsar ocean]

okay but like
it has a cool red glow

if i was a scientist and a rock was glowing red i would wanna do something with it

[wind kelp]

i just think its more realistic to assume that draedon would decide that in this chest, found at the very bottom of the abyss, with this potentially inconspicious looking rock in it, said rock may just have more to it than being a load of nothing. Is it possible draedon bins it the moment he sees it and decides to leave the abyss empty handed, sure! but i think its a lot more likely he atleast LOOKS it over for a bit and that SOMETHING comes of it, and given from how the moment you interact with it xeroc begins speaking to you, i think thats where he'd end up

[pulsar ocean]

also i feel like "They know that the boundless power it was once able to provide can no longer be taken advantage of" moreso implies that every auric dragon was slimed out and the only remaining one cant be absorbed that easily

[wind kelp]

xeroc trained for 850 years whats his bench i wonder

[wanton pendant]

You have to consider if Xeroc would be willing to communicate with Draedon.

[wind kelp]

why would he not be, hes willing to communicate with the player even if they pick it up with zero feats, and they speak only more praise once they do have feats

[wanton pendant]

Obtaining the Terminus is a feat, and it is unreasonable to consider meta situations where you cheat it in or use exploits to obtain it.

[wind kelp]

you can realistically get it from the moment you can get blessing, and considering there is deliberate dialogue changes depending on what bosses youve beaten i think thats intentional

[wanton pendant]

Again, that would be a feat, if not an even more impressive feat than doing it late game.

[wind kelp]

saying that getting the terminus itself is a feat does not provide any reason as to why xeroc would ghost draedon using the terminus, if anything its a reason as to why he would answer?

[wanton pendant]

Well, Draedon is looking for a powerful warrior. Draedon himself isn't.

[scenic olive]

imagining xeroc wouldnt just smite draedon

[eternal veldt]

He's the batman species. Their natural behaviour is to aura farm mid battle.

[scenic olive]

draedon might not be alive

hes a robot ahh

[south relic]

What is the lore explanation for Aerialite Ore being released by defeating The Hive Mind/The Perforators?

[split mortar]

^

[mighty zenith]

there was apparently an explanation but this just. makes more sense

[wanton pendant]

They get enchanted because... uh... because....

[split mortar]

Dragonfolly is gonna become the boss that enchants aerialite eventually

[pulsar ocean]

Why would it enchant aeralite

[split mortar]

Sky birds keep drinking the enchantment idfk im not a dev

[wanton pendant]

Because birds live in the sky.

[south relic]

Is it that this lore hasn't been decided in much detail yet?

[wanton pendant]

It's because they haven't moved the bosses.

[split mortar]

Unfinished mod moment

[pulsar ocean]

Is that factual information

[wanton pendant]

And they won't tell us until they do.

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, I'm a birdologist.

[split mortar]

They are moving it to sky iirc so yea

[pulsar ocean]

But

They nest on trees

[split mortar]

Trees are part of the sky duh

[wanton pendant]

So do fish.

Does that mean fish live on the ground?

No, that's stupid.

[split mortar]

Fish nest on trees?

@raven brook fish woman is this true

[wanton pendant]

There's a kind of fish that climbs trees.

[dusk laurel]

thats you

[pulsar ocean]

how do waterwraiths affect the calamity mod story

[split mortar]

Means france exists

[mighty zenith]

worst timeline

[eternal veldt]

Makes sense although would that mean lorewise dragonfolly with draconic lineage would be weaker than the fishrons?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[eternal veldt]

His machines can't handle the abyss i think. Hell even endgame terrarian get's mogged sometimes down there and that terrarian can farm his works for money and drops

[dusk laurel]

considering that irl weve sent a few subs to the mariana trench i dont see why he couldnt

considering hes more technologically advanced, he just doesnt have much of a reason to explore the 4th layer really

[eternal veldt]

Currrent draedon would but again too risky and he also thinks there is nothing down there so by his own logic.

High risk and 0 rewards

[dusk laurel]

theres like a couple animals and thats kinda it for noteworthy things, and its not like every single wyrm would be circling the terminus shrine

[dusk laurel]

its not that theres risk really, he has nothing to lose, he just doesnt know about the one stone tablet that like 2 people maybe 4 that are still around know about

[eternal veldt]

Ig yharim did say he has like almost infinite supplies

[dusk laurel]

its like a xeroc situation where, even if its a big thing not many people know about it realistically

[eternal veldt]

But like

Again is he really gonna make like 20 - 40 exo mechs just to look for nothing in his eyes

[dusk laurel]

well why would it be more exo mechs

those were designed as war machines not really for any surveillance

[eternal veldt]

It's probobly the only thing surviving down there

[feral skiff]

500 BILLION EXO MECHS.

and then.. hear me out..

send em towards Silva

[dusk laurel]

i could see a sub use exotech since infinite energy but its not like hes gonna run out of it

[eternal veldt]

That could literally overwhelm xeroc

[dusk laurel]

thats kinda not really true tho

he could just make a sub

thats designed only for abyssal exploration

[feral skiff]

no silva is a real threat, because she is nature, and nature is bad

[split mortar]

Draedon when xeroc turns the sun up

[eternal veldt]

Im serious LMAO if all the exo mechs combined is equal to 1 yharim and by devs confirmed that 40 yharims could overwhelm xeroc imagine 500 billion

[dusk laurel]

what?

no that

was immediately repudiated

[split mortar]

Except it takes months for a single set of exos
Draedon would not have the time to make many more nor the interest

[eternal veldt]

Real

[dusk laurel]

guys not every dev statement is accurate

[eternal veldt]

Who knows

All i know is we are definitely fighting yharim with a copper short sword when he releases

[split mortar]

Anything regarding the strength of characters is extremely
Fucking unreliable ngl

[dusk laurel]

strength isnt a numbers game first off

[split mortar]

We have shit saying 700 different extremes on strength

[dusk laurel]

secondly yharim would still be stronger than all of the exos combined, but thats not factoring other things like them flying or yharims things that arent just his strength

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

Question is could the terrarian beat fovos if he defeats noxus and gathered his loot

[split mortar]

We dont know

I doubt we will know

[eternal veldt]

Real

Noxus never gonna be a boss

It'll end on yharim LMAO

[split mortar]

I headcanon noxus is basically the strongest thing the terrarian can beat without absurd bordering comical luck

[split mortar]

Except thats not guaranteed

Noxus could

[eternal veldt]

Ehhh it's not going to reach that far. Im thinking your just gonna assist xeroc

Like opening a portal or something

[split mortar]

Noxus is a planned superboss

[eternal veldt]

Your gonna be an NPC basically

[split mortar]

We will fight em in some capacity

[eternal veldt]

Who said you can't fight a superboss without being an NPC

Wrath of the gods showcased this perfectly LMAO

[split mortar]

I disagree with this cause it just sorta reinforces xerocs possible view that he is the only fucker able to fend off the distortion

[zenith geode]

wotg doesnt have superbosses though

[dusk laurel]

also itd just be really boring for the player

[eternal veldt]

The bosses should count considering you never finished any of them off aside from goozma

[zenith geode]

goozma isnt from wotg

[dusk laurel]

and undermine any possible hint of you being strong if you would just be watching

[zenith geode]

and is also barely a superboss i beat it in less than 90 seconds on tier

[eternal veldt]

Not watching. assisting

[split mortar]

Which i fuck with the idea of the terrarian basically proving to xeroc hey you dont need to carry the literal entire planet and can get help

[dusk laurel]

like even though the terrarian is you () their whole thing is that they show up and are abnormally strong and actually do a bunch of shit to change the place and like

[eternal veldt]

They are a janitor

[split mortar]

Idk what janitor kills DoG but alright

[eternal veldt]

They clean shit up the morons left

cough cough yharim

cough

[split mortar]

Not always sometimes we do just
Do stuff

Providence doesnt exist because of yharim

[zenith geode]

the one from soda dungeon 2 probably

[eternal veldt]

We get jumped most of the time

[split mortar]

Okay?? Dont see how that fits being a janitor either 😭

[eternal veldt]

Most of those fights lead to nothing though

More like side quests

[split mortar]

Yeah not everything is connected to the big yharim plot or gonna have big consequence

[eternal veldt]

Ehh i still think the terrarian is just a janitor forced to put up with everyones mistake

[lament shadow]

If yharim hid himself away from the world and then where the hell is bro right now while hes whispering us in our ears yaps and yaps 😭

[dusk laurel]

hes in a place called the dragon's aerie

a place not ingame yet, that basically acts like a pocket dimension

[eternal veldt]

Isn't that where yharon's soul screwed off to?

[lament shadow]

Yharim Rn: wheres terrarian when i need terrarian 😭

[dusk laurel]

its where the auric dragons get rebirthed

which is now exclusively just yharon

[split mortar]

Yea

[eternal veldt]

Screw it hunt the damn bird to ascend LMAO

[lament shadow]

Wheres that dragon aerie at?

[split mortar]

Eggs in the background we cant get it 💔

[dusk laurel]

somewhere™

[split mortar]

Read the message below
Seemingly a pocket dimension

[eternal veldt]

SCREW THAT imma make an omlet

[split mortar]

Also good luck getting the ritual to ascend

[lament shadow]

Should i feel bad or nah since yharim tired to be good guy but turns out hes doing it wrong and then hid himself away cuz he sucks at being bad guy (i barely remember the lore)

[eternal veldt]

Pretty sure dude lied to yharim. LMAO imagine getting gaslit by a KFC and a worm 🥀

[dusk laurel]

yharim in lore caused the deaths of like atleast hundreds of millions

[split mortar]

Yharims actions ended half the population and he still thinks he did the greater good he is
Piss hitler to simplify it

[split mortar]

?

[lament shadow]

Yharim so random asf 😭 cuz why did he start whispering at us at the beginning so randomly as if he knows who we are when we literally weak back then just a regular dude that spawned

[lament shadow]

So should i feel bad?

[split mortar]

The lore whispers are planned to be reworked cause yeah its weird

[lament shadow]

more lore rewrittens 💔

[eternal veldt]

Devourer manipulated the guy for food and mr kfc probobly lied to an extent so that he would see all gods as terrible even the ones that ascended with their dragons willingly giving their soul

[split mortar]

He groomed a minor into nuking italy

[dusk laurel]

not really no

the items will be reworked

[split mortar]

No the info in them is planned to still be the same

[eternal veldt]

I can forgive that

[dusk laurel]

the actual text will mostly stay the same

[dusk laurel]

what

[lament shadow]

if the whispering rework does it mean we will see yharim whispering behind in our ears instead of Press shift to read?

[eternal veldt]

I hate italy

[split mortar]

Yharon probably did say an extremely wonky side of the god stuff but i think yharon fully believed it

[dusk laurel]

he will talk to you through a stone

[split mortar]

Current ideas seem to be rock phone but still in air what it will be

[weary fractal]

I hope Yharim can type faster than Draedon ngl

[lament shadow]

what the hell is that idea about?

[dusk laurel]

a magic rock

[eternal veldt]

How about just yharim apearing behind us and whispering in our ear

[hoary cape]

I would stab him

[eternal veldt]

Blowing a kiss sometimes

[weary fractal]

But also I like Yharim just being an inexplicable voice on the wind

[lament shadow]

magic rock sounds lame id rather have yharim whispering behind our ears transparent when we listen to the whisper

[dusk laurel]

okay

[eternal veldt]

your jordans are fake you hear as the winds blow

[hoary cape]

It's a sending stone smh

[split mortar]

Im up for rock phone cause it allows the devs to make the whispers like
Not be boss only

[hoary cape]

But you can't respond like in dnd

[eternal veldt]

LMAO i want yharim to just chuck an aeri stone at us from the sky that contains the message LMAO

Like a brick

[hoary cape]

Maybe you find the phone in your starting kit

[lament shadow]

How does rock phone even work 😭

talk like cellphone in call time?

[weary fractal]

Waking up to 10 damage on your noggin

[hoary cape]

It's a sending stone basically

That's how it works

[split mortar]

Too tired to explain someone else do it

[hoary cape]

You have it and you hear messages

[eternal veldt]

Getting sniped by yharim with a magical stone (normal brick) with a piece of paper attached

[pulsar ocean]

you zinc yharim would take a week or less to rebirth if he perfectly ascended

[lament shadow]

So basically yharim throws (send) rock at us so we can read his rock message?

[eternal veldt]

Yes

Exactly as you said

[hoary cape]

I mean yes, but it's like the same stone probably throughout the game

[weary fractal]

I assume in-universe you'd hear his voice coming from the rock, but essentially yea

[hoary cape]

Instead of multiple items

[lament shadow]

this sounds hilarious 😭

[eternal veldt]

It'd be funnier if it was just a brick like the one you get as a rogue in the early game

[hoary cape]

It's how a sending stone works in dnd

You send a message and the other person hears it

[eternal veldt]

Ngl would it be better to have like yharon's soul or something

[split mortar]

Why

Yharons alive

[eternal veldt]

Cuz magic rocks are lame

[split mortar]

Why would the soul not be in yharon

[hoary cape]

We can't even claim yharon's soul even if we wanted to

[eternal veldt]

Not literally his soul

[split mortar]

To have yharons soul would entail yharim boss fight the first second we spawn in

[hoary cape]

A) it teleports back to dragon aeire and b) we don't know the ritual

[eternal veldt]

I meant like something like a delivery birb

Or ngl just his kids

[split mortar]

Yharon would just boil us post golem

[hoary cape]

Bumblebirb just drops off a message at your feet

[eternal veldt]

Ngl i still don't get why yharon attacked us waddidi do to you

[split mortar]

Doesnt want us to kill yharim

Its really simple

[hoary cape]

Yharon is trying to protect his best buddy

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian is you but our goal in game is pretty unclear

[split mortar]

Damn its unclear so maybe that allows us to
Make it up

[hoary cape]

The goal is up to you

[eternal veldt]

Ehh fair enough. Ig it's for roleplaying

[hoary cape]

Some bosses think you are trying to beat yharim/or becoming him

[eternal veldt]

Calamitas fr fr

They should make it so your choices of what boss to beat impacts your progression fr fr

But ig the mod isn't story based

So probably not happening

[eternal veldt]

It would still be weird though since terrarina powerscale would be entirely dependent on the personal character lore then.

[split mortar]

You can install cheat sheet so like

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[split mortar]

If you really wanna you can be glupshittium strong

[eternal veldt]

Xeroc fighting terrarian with 20 cheat mods

[pulsar ocean]

why dont we just use the mind reading spell on yharim

and read out the ritual

[weary fractal]

Xeroc is also a monk with 20 cheat mods basically

[eternal veldt]

Depends on the cheat mod you are using LMAO

[pulsar ocean]

what is xe rock gonna do after i download cheat sheet

[eternal veldt]

The strongest cheater of today vs the strongest cheater in history type shi

[split mortar]

Uninstall it

[pulsar ocean]

he cant do that

[eternal veldt]

Hah jokes on him it's a malware and now we are both infected

[pulsar ocean]

why cant we just learn xeroc's patterns and slowly chip away at his health with each attempt until we kill him

[pulsar ocean]

dusttale shield

[eternal veldt]

They survived this btw.

[hoary cape]

Yharim probably has no clue what the ritual is either he never did it

[young socket]

he does tho

he was gonna do it

[pulsar ocean]

i mean dogma literally explained it to him in detail

[eternal veldt]

Yharim covered his ears and said LA LA LA when the gods asked him to eat KFC

[young socket]

like he got executed just before he was gonna do it

[cedar path]

Still kind of a crazy detail when you think about it

Dude was chosen to be like

A god on par with Xeroc, right?

[eternal veldt]

Probobly maybe... Nahhhhh

[cedar path]

Yharim is mad strong, give him Yharon's soul

[pulsar ocean]

yharon is only the 2nd strongest dragon

the gap between him and zeratros was probably considerable

[eternal veldt]

Ngl xerocs true power isn't really revealed yet

[weary fractal]

2nd strongest dragon is def A Lot, but Primordial Light is a nonsense on a level we don't really understand

[cedar path]

Okay so cant really speculate

[eternal veldt]

Yep

[pulsar ocean]

i dont really think physical strength matters all that much compared to the auric soul you're absorbing

[split mortar]

I think it makes sense godking of eternity yharim would be able to fight xeroc
I think xeroc would be stronger because the abilities would well be better for fighting

[eternal veldt]

Unless we get a connection with daytime empress when the lore get's updated then we could speculate

[pulsar ocean]

what would the god of eternity even do if gods dont age by default

[weary fractal]

Is the Empress lore also getting updated?

[eternal veldt]

Probobly keep trying until you finally succeed

[eternal veldt]

Nope

[split mortar]

It already got updated iirc

In bs

[eternal veldt]

Something like the none canon terrarian

Sure the foe is stronger but like you only need to defeat it once

They need to defeat you infinitely

[pulsar ocean]

so like
yharon but just better
i dont think thats what happens when u imperfectly absorb an auric soul

[eternal veldt]

Wonder if he did perfectly absorb yharon though

Guess it needs yharon to be willing

[split mortar]

Doesnt have terminus

[eternal veldt]

Ooooh imagine if terrarian could. And would make the respawning canon LMFAO

Does the terrarian have the terminus endgame?

[eternal veldt]

Yharim and yharon have bond anyway i wonder what would happen if we gave them the terminus?

[weary fractal]

Eating Yharon's soul just to unlock new levels of Godseeker yapping

[split mortar]

You can get the terminus as early as pre boss

[split mortar]

Yharim would die to the auric armour instantly

[weary fractal]

F

[split mortar]

Its not mock attuned like ours so when yharons soul is effectively erased and he loses the attunement the auric would obliterate him

[eternal veldt]

Imagine ascending and all he does with his newfound power is to whisper in your ears LMAO. I mean what are you gonna do he's a god

[eternal veldt]

Can't he just... take it off

[split mortar]

Would he be able to take it off quicl enough to avoid auric springlock

[eternal veldt]

Before he eats the damn thing 😭

Remove the armor before ascension

He's not tony stark where he needs the arc reactor 24/7 no?

But ngl i wouldn't take my armor off infront of the god slaying, corpse looting maniac either.

[weary fractal]

Honestly we do so much soul reuse in hardmode that IDK if ascension would change things for us that much. We already have that power several times over, just as weapons & accessories & stuff.

You ascend and it's just +1 accessory slot.

[wanton pendant]

He would try to destroy it.

Assuming he knew what it was.

[wanton pendant]

You get a domain, I suppose.

That's gotta involve a hotkey.

[weary fractal]

Trueee

[tepid marten]

40 new hotkeys and an accessory slot.
Maybe 25 health for funsies too.

[wanton pendant]

Everything now has an orange tint, for some reason.

[eternal veldt]

Never under estimate an extra accessory slot

[tepid marten]

That’s 1 more vanity item

[eternal veldt]

Real

[tepid marten]

Become a god for more drip

[eternal veldt]

The best way to use them fr fr

[wanton pendant]

You can now use potions from the Defenders Forge.

[eternal veldt]

But ngl i think it would just make respawning canon since yk. God of rebirthing

[wanton pendant]

2 if you're not a coward.

[weary fractal]

You ascend and it installs Quality of Terraria

[wanton pendant]

You have to be born again each time.

[eternal veldt]

Sure but boss health doesn't reset 😈

[weary fractal]

More seriously, yea, if there was some sort of Terrarian-eats-Yharon route, respawning would be the thing to point at

[wanton pendant]

It would take at least nine months, also you're a baby again.

[eternal veldt]

Yeah but counter point the boss health doesn't reset

Get yo baby ass into the battlefield

[split mortar]

Baby vs feral shark aint a good fight

[tepid marten]

If it bleeds it can die

[split mortar]

Yeah you bleed you dying again

[eternal veldt]

Unlimited baby btw

[weary fractal]

Are human babies canon...

[split mortar]

Free food

[eternal veldt]

You under estimate babies

[tepid marten]

1 billion babies versus god

[split mortar]

Why the fuck would they not be 😭

[eternal veldt]

Infinite babies vs the power of the sun

[weary fractal]

Maybe Terrarians just spring up fully formed out of the earth. You never know.

[eternal veldt]

Besides who knows maybe we grow stronger with every death

[tepid marten]

Who wins one god terrarian or 1 billion lions

[split mortar]

Angler and princess are children

[eternal veldt]

Good. I hate kids

[weary fractal]

In all seriousness, I am being silly

[split mortar]

Why would that happen, the auric dragons would all be much stronger

[weary fractal]

Good Baby vs Evil Baby moment

[eternal veldt]

LMAO i can already imagine a terrarian coming out of the womb fully auric geared and with massive muscles like in the spartans parody movie

[weary fractal]

Climbs outta there

[eternal veldt]

I don't need no doctor

[wanton pendant]

Terrarians are mammals. Dev confirmed.

[normal mantle]

You’d think so considering they have hair

[light linden]

random thought

y'all think illmeris exported eutrophic glass?

[wanton pendant]

Maybe...

[light linden]

@cosmic zenith question

what did chrysadia export?

[wanton pendant]

I would assume processed goods. They'd need to import raw materials. Also they never exported aerialite.

[light linden]

wonder if they exported harpy feathers at all

[wanton pendant]

Maybe...

[cosmic zenith]

I'll keep that a secret for now

[zenith geode]

chrysadia products if i had to imagine

[west plume]

pfft

[wanton pendant]

Yharim only wanted to spread peace and freedom. By force.

[woeful karma]

chrysadia makes exclusive fashion and accessories and sells it for millions of dollars based solely on artificial scarcity

[young socket]

did they also get children to mine monopolised gemstones?

[plucky juniper]

no

they used the caldevs

who worked on the fishmines

miner experience, ya know

actually wait

dwarves, obviously

demolitionist is a dwarf

[wanton pendant]

The live underground.

And Chrysadia is in the sky.

They would be carried off by Harpies.

[plucky juniper]

miner experience

they'd just bonk the harpies on their heads with pickaxes

[wanton pendant]

Pickaxes do like seven damage it's gonna do nothing!

[plucky juniper]

you dont know dwarf pickaxes

[light linden]

[dusk laurel]

throws tomatoes at you

[robust osprey]

throws vanilla ice creams at u

[pulsar ocean]

is scott cawthon canon

[split mortar]

If you will it

[rancid lily]

where does xeroc and the boss rush place itself in lore? he talks about a proposition at the end, as if there's more?

[wanton pendant]

They haven't added the proposition yet.

So we don't know what they want from us.

But Xeroc is the original god, and all the other gods copied their actions to also become gods.

This leads to Yharim commiting genocide.

And that's the guy you're gonna kill.

[rancid lily]

i think the boss rush should be renamed honestly, it feels a bit like strange yk

[raven brook]

the boss rush is xeroc creating all the past bosses you've fought out of light

[wanton pendant]

I mean... it's a Boss Rush.

What else would you call it?

Boss Light Jog?

Haha, light.

[rancid lily]

well if it's further developed in lore, i feel like it definitely should be renamed

[wanton pendant]

To what?

It's a Boss Rush named Boss Rush.

[raven brook]

the proposal as stated is not in the game yet so we don't know what it is but there are some generally widely accepted theories

[wanton pendant]

Like Xeroc wants you to join them in consuming drugs.

[rancid lily]

idk something a bit more special because boss rush is kinda like a game mode name rather than the name of a challenge

[wanton pendant]

It's not a diegetic name.

Xeroc doesn't say 'Welcome to my Boss Rush in this Calamity Mod'.

[young socket]

he should say this in ccr

[wanton pendant]

Real.

[rancid lily]

can we have xeroc being a 2016 youtuber intro at the start of the boss rush

would love that 🙏

[wanton pendant]

'Before we get into this Boss Rush, I have to make a quick apology.'
'Deep sigh.'
'About the allegations of what I did in 1037...'

[split mortar]

Almost certainly noxus related like what else would it be

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc boss fight.

[rancid lily]

what if his proposition is just he wants strong elites of the terraria world to join his tea party

[wanton pendant]

Real.

[split mortar]

Idk if thatd require the whole bossrush and proposition stuff 😭 feels unnecessary for just a spar

[wanton pendant]

You need to handle the Primordial Cake.

[raven brook]

man

[split mortar]

Blunt rotation not tea party imo

[raven brook]

u guys suck at explaining things

[split mortar]

Yeah

I have not hiddent the fact my brains been liquid the entire day

[dusk laurel]

i think ur brain has been liquid for the past 2 years

[raven brook]

this chat vs not throwing a bunch of nonsense at anyone whos trying to ask a question

keep the inside jokes as inside jokes brah

[reef wigeon]

At this point my brain is just a soup of neuron plasma 😭😭😭

[pulsar ocean]

If light buffs bosses that much why isn’t the solar flare armor set the best in the game

[agile matrix]

mining helmet:

[reef wigeon]

Because those bosses are made of Primordial Light, we're not

(I suppose)

[pulsar ocean]

But solar frags are primordial light

So it should be as strong right

[agile matrix]

no they're not their solar panels

[split mortar]

The bosses have more primordial light is what i think

[reef wigeon]

No because the solar flare armor isn't made entirely of solar fragments. It's also made of luminite so it's an alloy

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

[glacial wolf]

Would Draedon be a vocaloid fan.

Serious question btw

[wanton pendant]

No, he sciences.

He has no time for joy in his cold, metal heart.

[split mortar]

Draedon would be a fan of the impacts it has on all sciences it affects

[wanton pendant]

Vocaloid means Miku, right?

[long bloom]

yeah

and red miku

[glacial wolf]

You can science and music

[wanton pendant]

He has no care for the beats and the rhymes.

[glacial wolf]

Minu, Teto, Neru, ETC

[glacial wolf]

That wasnt the question though

[wanton pendant]

Who the hell is ETC. Is Neru yellow Miku?

[glacial wolf]

Siffrin gave me an answer

[glacial wolf]

Yes

Teto is red

Id like to mention we got Red, Yellow, and then turquoise vocaloids

Where the hell is green and normal blue

[split mortar]

Green is gumi iirc

[thick slate]

draedon would love techno

[split mortar]

Wha

[long bloom]

bir

[compact ridge]

Gumi, kaito

[digital anchor]

wait, what does Yharim think about the Torch God

[wanton pendant]

Torch God may or may not exist.

[split mortar]

What torch god is is up to you

If torchgod is a god then yharim wants a kill on sight

[terse moss]

Do you think torch god is so comically weak that Yharim doesn’t even consider him a god

Like he is just so nothing

[eager bluff]

carbon monoxide induced hallucination

[split mortar]

Gods are not related to strength so that would be irrelevant

[terse moss]

Fair

[hushed jasper]

I don’t think Torch god has a physical body so I don’t think Yharim really can do anything

[terse moss]

It would be funny tho

[terse moss]

He’s just like, annoying

[hushed jasper]

Just

[terse moss]

He harassed Yharim’s soldiers with very small fireballs

[hushed jasper]

Dump water on torches

[split mortar]

Torchgod inflicts godslayer inferno and profaned fire debuffs iirc

[hushed jasper]

He does?

[terse moss]

w h a t

[split mortar]

Think so? I remember torchgod inflicting a silly amount of fire debuffs

Including cal ones

[terse moss]

What about dragonfire or brimstone flames

[young socket]

in rev yea

[split mortar]

Oh lol

[young socket]

dragonfire is death only but brimstone is on expert

actually just

[split mortar]

So torch god has fire hotter then the profaned goddess amazing

[split mortar]

VULNERABILITY HEX 😭

[young socket]

also now that vanilla bestiary is in the game can we please stop calling torch god carbon monoxide poisoning its called an entity in the bestiary

🫗

[split mortar]

Torch god rivals apollo and scal as the hottest fire producer in calamity

In deathmode

[split mortar]

You realise the carbon monoxide poisoning was made by that bestiary right

[terse moss]

That’s so silly

[young socket]

this is you

youre a grubolt

[dusk laurel]

🖕

[terse moss]

Imagine being a soldier and one of the torches burns through your like uelebloom tier armor like nothing

[split mortar]

Literally a pile of torches vs one of the strongest gods

[wanton pendant]

Uelibloom isn't real, that soldier is going around unequipped, they deserve the wrath of the Torch God.

[terse moss]

Do you think torch god was enough of a menace that it changed how Yharim laid out his bases and whatnot?

No hallways that are too long

Lots of natural lighting

[split mortar]

Bestiary says unknown entity iirc so no one but us know of torch god

[dusk laurel]

oh yeah speaking of this, like whats gonna replace uelibloom in the t4 recipes since we know its getting nuked

[wanton pendant]

He switches to lamps.

[edgy frigate]

yharim personally and purposely beats the shit out of anyone who uses a torch

[wanton pendant]

Freaking uh.... Green iron?

[dusk laurel]

we know t4 is supposed to be like a white metal but,,, nothing fits this description late hardmode nor post moon lord

[terse moss]

Hallow+

[edgy frigate]

Hallow yeah

[dusk laurel]

💣

[terse moss]

Super Hallow

[edgy frigate]

Hallow 2

New biome

[young socket]

unknown could also be referring to its origin being unknown

[terse moss]

Hallower bars

[young socket]

not that no one else knows of it

[wanton pendant]

'What is that you're holding, Private?'
'Uh... A flashlight?'
Gets tossed into the Abyss.

[edgy frigate]

Torch god is too old to know what a flashlight is

[wanton pendant]

Also known as a torch.

[terse moss]

It’s also hilarious how Yharim’s war too decades or centuries, and then the terraria kills a bunch in like one month

[raven brook]

carbon monoxide

[digital anchor]

The real question is, what Auric Soul did the Torch God consume?

[raven brook]

I mean

[wanton pendant]

~105 years.

[raven brook]

You kill like

3 gods

yharim killed

god knows how many

[terse moss]

At least 7

[raven brook]

worldwide genocide

[wanton pendant]

It's Xeroc, trust.

[raven brook]

providence, slime god, ravager

that is not atleast 7

[edgy frigate]

okay but its not a stick with fire on it checkmate liberal

[raven brook]

that is Three

[tropic oak]

did someone say x

[terse moss]

No I mean he did

[raven brook]

You can argue for Hive Mind and Perforators

[wanton pendant]

Torch is torch.

[terse moss]

He killed at least 7

[raven brook]

oh

[wanton pendant]

Yeah. Twitter time.

[edgy frigate]

Torch is torch flashlight is flashlight

[wanton pendant]

Torch is torch, flashlight is torch.

[tropic oak]

the auric soul of smokin dat shit silly

[raven brook]

the auric soul of carbon monoxide overdose

btw the official torhc god theme lyrics support carbon monxide overdose theory

which means its canon and real now

i dont make the rules itsj ust how it is

[dusk laurel]

kill woman3

[tropic oak]

true

[edgy frigate]

There’s only TWO types of light sources. Candles and Lamps. Torches are Candles, the Sun is a candle, an electric Light fixture is a lamp, and a Flashlight despite being a torch is a lamp

[icy veldt]

Carbon monoxide is harmless

[edgy frigate]

Get real and lightpilled

[terse moss]

“Guys I think there is a gas leak in the barra-“

[wheat walrus]

chud concept art

[tidal osprey]

Torch Dragon

Also god DAMNIT, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO BRING IT UP THINKING I WAS ORIGINAL

But alas, @digital anchor beat me to it

[wanton pendant]

This implies Torch God perfect ascended.

[noble falcon]

Of course he did
He’s the strongest

[wanton pendant]

Torch God is clearly Xeroc.

What is the sun, but a big torch?

[tidal osprey]

Isn’t the sun weaker than Xeroc?

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc controls the sun.

[tidal osprey]

As Xeroc uses the primordial light

[tidal osprey]

Ain’t that Providence tho?

[wanton pendant]

Primordial Light = Sunlight.

Providence has nothing to do with the sun.

[tidal osprey]

Oh that got retconned

[wanton pendant]

Providence has the domain of Ash.

[tidal osprey]

What is the primordial light if not a really really big torch

[wanton pendant]

That's what I'm saying!

[tidal osprey]

Like, yay big 🫲 🫱

[split mortar]

Provi is ash

[wanton pendant]

Really? Who knew.

[split mortar]

Kills you

[tidal osprey]

Not me apparently

[wanton pendant]

No.

[tidal osprey]

I swear Providence used to relate to the sun

[split mortar]

Yeah years ago

[tidal osprey]

Was that retconned or am I insane

[wanton pendant]

She was a sun goddess years ago.

Now Xeroc is the sun god.

[tidal osprey]

I headcanon’d the Primordial Light being like the Big Bang or some shit

[split mortar]

The suns basically the most important symbol in the current continuation providence being the sun god nowadays would be odd

[wanton pendant]

It's literally sunlight.

[split mortar]

Its the sun and its sunlight

Thats irrefutably what it is

[wanton pendant]

Bestiary confirms it.

[tidal osprey]

Thats honestly really weird considering many Cal weapons past Providence, if you consider from a powerscaling view, basically screw over the sun a thousandfold

Then again powerscaling and storytelling are separate

[wanton pendant]

Never use flavour text and weapon names to powerscale.

[split mortar]

Supreme witch calamitas caps at like city level

[spare pier]

WH4T

HOW TH3 FUCK DO YOU G3T TH4T

[wanton pendant]

I saw people saying the Ice Flower from Mario can literally freeze the entire planet.

[split mortar]

Probably the foavour tooltips tgat are overexxagerated

[tidal osprey]

Following weapon names, effects, and tooltips at face value

[spare pier]

Y34H DONT DO TH4T

[wanton pendant]

Because one character comments that legends say it could freeze the sun in one game.

[tidal osprey]

I’m sorry that there’s a weapon literally called HELIUM FLASH

[wanton pendant]

That's just a name.

[young socket]

heres my sword goku killer

[split mortar]

face value
Thats where you fucked up

[tidal osprey]

Or for assuming that COSMILITE has some variation of cosmic power

[wanton pendant]

If I call a gun 'Universe Ender'...

[spare pier]

BRO 1 C4N PUNCH 4ND S4Y 1TS 4 PUNCH TH4T 3XPLOD3S G4L4X13S

[young socket]

it doesnt actually kill goku but yknow it sounds cool as fuck when its called goku killer

[wanton pendant]

It's just named that.

[spare pier]

OK SO L1K3 4CTU4L COMP4R1SON

[split mortar]

A rock has earthen power is it country level

[tidal osprey]

A very big rock yeah, that’s what killed the dinosaurs

[wanton pendant]

It's literally a liquid found all over another dimension.

[split mortar]

Just cause its cosmic in origin in some way does not mean its like planet busting

[split mortar]

No a rock you can pick up with your hand irl

[spare pier]

TH4TS L1K3 1F W3 N4M3D 4N 3L3M3NT "Z3US1UM" OR SOM3TH1NG 4ND YOU S41D 1T COULD SHOOT L1GHTN1NG BOLTS OUT OF 1T

[wanton pendant]

There's iron in space.

[wanton pendant]

Thorium.

[tidal osprey]

That’s what I assumed with the Astral Infection, that its Astral in the sense that it came from space

[young socket]

LIKE THE TERRARIA MOD

[wanton pendant]

It was right there.

[wanton pendant]

It did.

[spare pier]

1 DONT KNOW WH4T THOR1UM 1S N4M3D 4FT3R

[tidal osprey]

You say that like it isn’t the most baller idea ever

[wanton pendant]

Thor.

[split mortar]

Yeah its a rotted bloating star hitting the planet

[tidal osprey]

And it’s used to make Thor’s Hammer in Thorium

[young socket]

you wouldnt believe who

[wanton pendant]

Polonium has the combined strength and abilities of Poland.

[tidal osprey]

So it’s named correctly

[spare pier]

1 FORGOT THOR

[young socket]

francium is the most feared element for obvious reasons

[wanton pendant]

After four movies? How could you.

[spare pier]

4NYW4YS YOU G3T TH3 PO1NT

[tidal osprey]

I do

[raven brook]

Whale Sharks are, in fact, not whales

Ladybirds are

not birds

[tidal osprey]

Why you speak like that btw?

[raven brook]

nor ladies

that's a Bug

[split mortar]

Cause homestuck

[young socket]

they can be ladies if they want to

[wanton pendant]

I think it's a reference...

[young socket]

fuck you

[spare pier]

B3C4US3 1TS 4W3SOM3 >:]

[raven brook]

Don't take the names of things completely literally

[wanton pendant]

My gun 'Universe Ender', was made by Nerf.

[tidal osprey]

How gay of you

[split mortar]

Wha

[tidal osprey]

Not meant to be derogatory btw

[wanton pendant]

They say I don't give off woke vibes... Is that what it looks like to fail to do so?

[tidal osprey]

You don’t give woke vibes

I hope I do

[wanton pendant]

People are saying this...

[split mortar]

For an actual calamity feat it took days to weeks for one of the strongest calamity characters to nuke effectively italy iirc

[tidal osprey]

Back to the main topic at hand, yeah you guys can stop making fun of me for using common sense

[wanton pendant]

With her bare hands!

[spare pier]

MOR3 L1K3 H4LF OF 1T

[split mortar]

-# that being ilmeris

[spare pier]

1 TH1NK TH4TS 4 R34SON4BL3 4R34

1 HOP3 1T 1S

[latent flower]

isnt this a weird name for ladybug

[split mortar]

Yea

[raven brook]

yeah

british

of course

[young socket]

new powerscaling statement we need to ping omni right now

[wanton pendant]

Did she get the mezzogiorno or the north?

[latent flower]

oh okie makes sense

that explains it

🙂‍↕️

[wanton pendant]

You're right.

[latent flower]

theyre just trying to be differenttt

[tidal osprey]

I liked it better when I was right, but whatever I guess Helium Flash is like City level

[raven brook]

Generally the new lore idaled town

Massively

on the powerscaling

[wanton pendant]

I don't see any cities being levelled when you attack.

[raven brook]

because if every character could just like destroy planets then...

None of the story would really make sense or have weight

[split mortar]

Old lore was so inconsistent you werent correct then either iirc

[raven brook]

Not to say that CAN'T work for a story

But it very much , didn't for Calamityt's story

specially because

Of the discrepancy

[tidal osprey]

Draedon didn’t get the memo, and honestly I kinda prefer it that way since he does feel like a cosmic level threat if left undefeated

[wanton pendant]

Old Lore didn't even have that much crazy powerscaling most of it was just made up by people.

[tidal osprey]

GOD DAMN IT

[wanton pendant]

You can't defeat him.

[raven brook]

Yharim table

And also didn't draedon mechanize a whole planet

or something

also yharim froze permafrost

[wanton pendant]

Like, the main exception.

[tidal osprey]

His Mechs I mean

[raven brook]

and enslaved calamitas with his mind

[spare pier]

1T C4N 1M L1T3R4LLY WR1T1NG 4 STORY WH3R3 TH3 CH4R4CT3RS 3XPLOD3 L1K3 THR33 UN1V3RS3S

[wanton pendant]

He can make more, given time.

[split mortar]

Providence couldnt end the world yet deus and dog were like star eater tier snd then yharim hitting a table was like island level 😭 old lore everywhere

[raven brook]

Yeah like you def can make a story where it worsk

calamity is just Not it

[spare pier]

NO PROV1D3NC3 COULD

SH3 JUST D1DNT

[raven brook]

Again, the discrepancy between

lore and gameplay

[split mortar]

WHY?

[spare pier]

B3C4US3 1 GU3SS SH3 D1DNT W4NT TO

[raven brook]

THIS CHARACTER CAN BLOW UP UNIVERSWES

[wanton pendant]

Fake nihilist.

[spare pier]

FUCK 1F 1 KNOW

[split mortar]

WASNT THAT HER GOAL???

[raven brook]

and then ingame you kill it without it ever like

doing anything that impressive

[tidal osprey]

Unless you add subworlds, like say another mod that I so happen to work for

[wanton pendant]

Good news.

[split mortar]

Even with sub worlds a universe buster would still break everything

[tidal osprey]

Even then we’re not powerscaling crazy until wayyyyyy later

[wanton pendant]

The most powerful being in Calamity can threaten the world in the sense that they could cause considerable damage.... If you give them a really long time.

Yharim killed like, half the planet in a century.

[tidal osprey]

I’m pretty sure by World you mean Planet Earth specifically

As it is A world

[wanton pendant]

It's Terraria.

[split mortar]

Calamitys story just sort of does not function if someone can explode planets or smth

[tidal osprey]

Which is Earth

[wanton pendant]

No it's Terraria.

[split mortar]

Its stated to be terraria not earth 5 continents not however many earth has

And the sun orbits terraria

[split mortar]

And the moons probably evil and haunted

[tidal osprey]

Oh does Cal change Terraria to be like, its own thing and not an Earth placeholder

[wanton pendant]

Moon's Haunted...

[young socket]

"not however many earth has"

[reef wigeon]

Hello guys what are ya talking about

[young socket]

is siffrin gun washed

[wanton pendant]

Terraria isn't Earth.

Mars, however, is just there.

[tidal osprey]

Helium Flash is a Planet level weapon

[split mortar]

Last i heard it was sorta debated if earth had 7 or a dif number also i have bad memory

[wanton pendant]

What does 'planet level' even mean?

[reef wigeon]

Yeah obviously

[split mortar]

Powerscaling 💔

[split mortar]

Yeah 😭

Martians demand mars exists

[tidal osprey]

Actually that brings up an interesting point

[reef wigeon]

If you eat a Star you're a Star Metabolism tier, if you destroy a Slime you're slime tier, if you kill a god you're god tier

[tidal osprey]

Why are weapon tooltips so exaggerated

[wanton pendant]

Two of those can be the same.

[wanton pendant]

Hyperbole is a writing technique.

[tidal osprey]

Like Ark of the Cosmos being implied to be hyper dimensional

[wanton pendant]

That's not even a term.

[split mortar]

Because it sounds very fucking cool

[wanton pendant]

It's just a cool name.

[reef wigeon]

Yes it is

[tidal osprey]

Yeah but like, you gotta make it make sense ya know

[reef wigeon]

Hyperdimensional is something with multiple dimensions

[wanton pendant]

It's scissors made of dragon metal.

[split mortar]

And the writers aint gonna say to the devs to rewrite every weapon tooltip cause a random items exagerated words are more exagerated in the new lore

[tidal osprey]

I’m not a nitpicker or anything, but if it leads to wrong unintended conclusions and is not a reference, then yeah it’s misleading

[wanton pendant]

It kills gods because you're stronger than all but one of them.

[spare pier]

WH4T

BRO

HOW DO YOU GUYS R34D

[light linden]

hi terezi

[spare pier]

"This thing can cut through space"

[wanton pendant]

The tooltip doesn't even imply it's 'hyper dimensional'.

[spare pier]

4ND SOM3HOW TURN 1T 1NTO

[wanton pendant]

'The physical culmination of your journey, capable of rending gods asunder.'

[spare pier]

"THIS THING CAN EXPLODE 500 QUADRILLION UNIVERSES AT ONCE"

[light linden]

I still gotta try a melee run

actually

[wanton pendant]

No part of that has anything to do with dimensions.

[light linden]

screw it why not do it now

[tidal osprey]

Yeah, being beyond space is beyond dimensions, as space is based on what dimension you’re in

I’m not insane

[spare pier]

NO

[reef wigeon]

Well, you have a point, buuuuut

[spare pier]

TH4TS NOT HOW TH1NGS WORK

[split mortar]

Thats wack theres space damaging things in fiction all the time that arent universe obliterators

[light linden]

hey terezi can I ask a question?

[reef wigeon]

That would only be being four-dimensional

[wanton pendant]

Define 'planet-level' and 'hyper dimensional'.

[spare pier]

BRO TH4TS TH3 MOST G1G4NT1C L34P 1N LOG1C 3V3R

[reef wigeon]

Not hyperdimensional

[tidal osprey]

It depends on how the writers define Space in this sense

[split mortar]

Cutting space is not the same scale as universe destroying or transcending space

[wanton pendant]

Well, the writer says it isn't defined like that.

[split mortar]

And evidently seems like you grabbed the wackiest definition as your first interpretation

[spare pier]

Y34H CUTT1NG SP4C3 DO3SNT M34N "TR4NSC3ND1NG SP4C3" THOS3 4R3 TWO 3NT1R3LY D1FF3R3NT TH1NGS

[tidal osprey]

Ah

[reef wigeon]

Yeah it's not

[tidal osprey]

My bad then

How does one cut space

[wanton pendant]

With scissors.

[reef wigeon]

You can be three-dimensional

[spare pier]

SP4C3 M4G1C

[reef wigeon]

But having the property of cutting space

[tidal osprey]

Is it like some Okuyasu The Hand typa BS?

[spare pier]

Y34H B4S1C4LLY

[reef wigeon]

Because there are similar things even in theoretical physics

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

[spare pier]

TH3 W4Y 1 V13W 1T, 1TS MOR3 L1K3 M4K1NG 4 SM4LL PORT4L 4ND L3TT1NG 1T 1MM3D14T3LY COLL4PS3

[reef wigeon]

Except that it is implied that the entire universe is shrinking on that point

[spare pier]

TH4T R3L34S3S 4 SH1TON OF 3N3RGY

[tidal osprey]

A wound that heals instantly

[spare pier]

M4K1NG PORT4LS 1S SOM3TH1NG 4 BUNCH OF GUYS C4N DO 1N C4L SO Y34H

[reef wigeon]

The ark of cosmos doesnt do that

The Hand does

[wanton pendant]

So is 'planet-level' and 'hyper dimensional' gonna just be unadressed?

[split mortar]

What does hyper dimensional even mean

[wanton pendant]

I feel like it involves a specific anime to understand.

[reef wigeon]

Hyperdimensional, I think, means anything with dimensions higher than 3 spatial dimensions

[wanton pendant]

That would be... Literally nothing in Calamity.

[tidal osprey]

Actually I wanna go wayyyy back

So the existence of a Torch God implies the existence of a Torch Dragon

[wanton pendant]

It doesn't.

[spare pier]

1T C4N

[tidal osprey]

I doodled a hypothetical Torch dragon in like 2 minutes cause I have nothing better to do

[reef wigeon]

Shakidou knowing this: it's my moment

[wanton pendant]

It does mean the possibility of a Torch Dragon, but doesn't mean there was one.

[spare pier]

TH3 TORCH GOD 1S 3XPL1C1TLY NOT CONF1RM3D 4S 4NYTH1NG 1NG4M3

[wanton pendant]

Emptiness isn't a dimension. It's literally nothing.

[spare pier]

YOU C4N H34DC4NNON 1T 4S WH4T3V3R TH3 FUCK YOU W4NT

[split mortar]

Its confirmed to be an entity and so isnt carbon monoxide poisoning

[wanton pendant]

It's totally Xeroc.

[reef wigeon]

It was a joke because you just said "literally nothing"....

[wanton pendant]

I said it twice, even.

[spare pier]

M3LON GUN YOUR3 STUP1D

TH4TS ST1LL 4N 3NT1TY

[wanton pendant]

True!

[spare pier]

JUST 4N 1M4G1N4RY ON3

[tidal osprey]

True, but say we try to fill in the gaps and follow Calamity Lore. Gods in Calamity become so from consuming an Auric Soul, so that means there was likely to be a Torch Dragon

[split mortar]

HOW IS CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING AN ENTITY

[wanton pendant]

It makes it unlikely.

[reef wigeon]

It's an illusion.

[spare pier]

1TS 4N 1M4G1N4RY 3NT1TY

[wanton pendant]

Like, explicitly makes it unlikely there was a Torch Dragon.

[split mortar]

No cause only silva and xeroc perfect ascended meaning torch adjacent dragon

[reef wigeon]

An illusion is an imaginary entity, not physically existing but appearing to be so

[split mortar]

Doesnt make sense to me

[tidal osprey]

I’ll settle with Torch Adjacent

[wanton pendant]

It makes perfect sense.

[reef wigeon]

No it doesn't

[wanton pendant]

Torch God is Herobrine.

[tidal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-game-theory-wrong-gif-2412339571630429073

[reef wigeon]

Ignore the fact that I just gave an explanation for that

[tidal osprey]

Why isn’t the gif gifing

[reef wigeon]

Because embed fail

[wanton pendant]

Because you're unworthy.

[split mortar]

Embed perms banned

[wanton pendant]

Obtain enough Rocks to build a house.

[tidal osprey]

Dang

[wanton pendant]

I blame Melon Gun for this.

[tidal osprey]

All your theories are wrong, goodbye

[reef wigeon]

Now, die.

[split mortar]

HEY IT WAS KANA DOING THE EMBED GIF FUCKERY OVER A YEAR AGO

[wanton pendant]

Kana sounds a lot like Melon Gun...

[reef wigeon]

Bye guys

[split mortar]

That guy threatened to dox people :/

[reef wigeon]

See you tomorrow

[wanton pendant]

Oh damn.

[split mortar]

So like dont

[uncut rain]

hey guys, based on your perspective, who do you think is the FINAL boss in calamity?

[split mortar]

Theres not even a perspective on it, atm its scal/exos and thr planned final boss is yharim

With xeroc and noxus as post game superbosses

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is the planned final boss because he's the main antagonist.

[raw nest]

Where can I find official concept art of what characters look like outside of their sprites?

[wanton pendant]

Pins.

[split mortar]

Dont think everything is there in pins but i got some on my phone

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Wat

[raw nest]

Appreciate it

[young socket]

all silva images

[split mortar]

Watabout them

[young socket]

dont need em

[split mortar]

Not in the pinned doc afaik

[young socket]

so u think this is necessary to show off

[split mortar]

Yes

[dusk laurel]

[young socket]

i agree vanillin

[robust osprey]

yes

silly-looking flower

[raven brook]

u dont need to show off all silva images u can just

post silva and the coccoon at best

u dont need to show off fucking bald silva

😭

[split mortar]

This has been told to me many times saying it to me again will not change anything and i have yet to come across a actually good reason beyond people getting annoyed i pressed a few more buttons cause afaik discord condenses it to fit the space of one image chat wise on everything

If it does clog chat yeah ill stop but i feel it doesnt since mods would tell me to stop spamming so afaik people just getting annoyed over me pressing a few more buttons which just like stop

[raven brook]

its not even annoyance its just like but why

[split mortar]

Why not

Thats literally the reason i just wanna

Why do i post the terrarian image so much why do i do random stuff ehy did i used to post others profile pictures
I just did i dont have an answer to that beyond just wanting to

[raven brook]

fair enough

i mean most of the time when you do this stuff its not even like annoyance its more like just sitting there in confusion but thats part of the melongun charm

[hoary cape]

Oh you are melon gun

I was wondering where melon vanished to

But melon gun has been here the whole time

Random interjection into the conversation

[split mortar]

I got in stars and time on christmas if that explains anything

[hoary cape]

It does not

[split mortar]

Seems like annoyance from others rather then you

[hoary cape]

It's the most important image in the list though cheese

Bald

[edgy frigate]

big silva fan

[plucky juniper]

sea lion jumpscare

[hoary cape]

I am going to obliterate the connection between your atoms

[split mortar]

Siffrin is the main character of in stars and time and they are the first fictional character i got a plush of and also the game surpassed oneshot and deltarune as my fav game in only a few hours

[plucky juniper]

since im starting to hear of some unneeded tension in the air

[hoary cape]

Love the sealion, but prepare to just puff away as all your atoms disconnect

[split mortar]

Probably cause im tired as shit yet the horrors dont let me sleep so im just existing with very little patience for much atm

[plucky juniper]

you can disconnect my atoms, but you cant uneldritchify the amidais

[hoary cape]

Nah I'd win

[hoary cape]

Cthulhu

[split mortar]

I am mentally healthy about Siffrin

[plucky juniper]

well i am mentally healthy about seals if thats the case

and also da pins

[digital rivet]

will xeroc be in the boss rush if hes added, if so wouldnt he have to be a weaker version of himself if hes in it

[long bloom]

they will not be in boss rush

[digital rivet]

Got it

[light linden]

@spare pierhey are there any surface animals unique to the heartlands?

[spare pier]

WHY TH3 FUCK WOULDNT TH3R3 B3

[plucky juniper]

we're in the heartlands

the real question is

what surface animals arent found in the heartlands

[light linden]

We know nothing about other continents

[dusk laurel]

idk i feel like real life can give some clues on this one

simply "not having enough information" doesnt just rule out basic logic of the continents being different from one another

like we know they have different ecosystems

that already should be telling

theres already alot of biological diversity in just this continent

and its the one that got hit the hardest, not to mention that its one of the smaller two

[warm gull]

its friday friday gotta get down on friday

[untold forge]

moonlordd if he was sealorfd

[robust osprey]

thats amidias

[agile matrix]

amidias if he was primordial wyrm

[feral skiff]

aw hell nah, sunken sea overhaul took too long 💀

we gotta get that out STAT before amidias degenerates further

[untold forge]

OH MY HAHAHA

[limpid saddle]

he desires flesh

[fresh oak]

canonically does the terrarian have like no HP relative to the bosses we fight? or from the bosses perspective we would have like hella hearts

[fresh oak]

https://tenor.com/view/mohammed-hanakin-mohammed-gif-20848297

[agile matrix]

i mean reasonably our hearts fit nicely within a 10x2 grid

so if they're also playing a similar game to us (they arent but shh) then yeah their hearts just have a lotta upgrade

[eternal veldt]

My fav character by far in calamity is sea king

[feral skiff]

what if it wasn’t up to me?

[split mortar]

WELL IT IS!!!

[eternal veldt]

Yharim decides it for us fr fr

[bitter cave]

You become Yharim 2

[feral skiff]

i was the goog guy all alonf.. please be MY successor.. because i’m OLD 🥀

[hollow pivot]

What does Amidamas do in lore apart from be king who gives air bubbles to us?

[eternal veldt]

Nothing im pretty sure he's just a king to a dead country. What makes him my fav is because he doesn't even resent calamitas

Lost everything yet still decided to forgive. Truely my goat

[eternal veldt]

Being the good guy in a playthrough is generally harder cuz you get locked out of side bosses and upgrades fr

Someone should do a morally good playthrough and only kill necessary bosses LMAO

[feral skiff]

okay but ur still killing