lore-discussion

[raven brook]

Calamity wouldn't have happened 😭

There is NO xeroc, NO yharim, and NO gods

[zenith geode]

if it was working for noxus then noxus prolly was confident enough

[young socket]

seen multiple times it being explained as the noxus hivemind place so ofc ppl are obviously confused when afterwards we say signus isnt part of it n stuff

[raven brook]

yeah the distortion is just

an alternate realm of sorts

noxus is a super powerful being on it with alot of control over a hive mind of sorts but its

not the only thing on it

and i doubt it created it

[young socket]

hear me out

hear me out

[raven brook]

its less of a like

cave a bear lives in

and more of a forest

with different creatures

and the bear that lives in a cave happens to be the apex predator and strongest guy around

[young socket]

noxus is like the glowing mushrooms on terraria and the truffle is like dog and signus is like idk a shroomble and sw is uhhhhhh fuck idk

[raven brook]

of course

the mushroom analogy

why did i not think of this

a clasisc.

[young socket]

point is that the distortion is a lot more than just noxus hivemind

[hoary cape]

Imagine if Fovos was Noxus's boss and when fovos got crippled noxus took over /j

[young socket]

noxus is a mushroom theory

hes a

fun guy.

[raven brook]

got promoted

[undone karma]

any updated lore doc?

[agile matrix]

wait.

im sorry

hold on

Pillars are Moon Lord shit?????????? like poop??????????????????????

are all of the pillar enemies existing around literally eldritch fecal matter

cmere rq apologies for ping

check my work

[raven brook]

Maybe.

I mean the shape is close enough

[agile matrix]

this is hellish knowledge

[raven brook]

looks poop shaped enough

[agile matrix]

all the pillar enemies, any aura they coulda had

vaporized

they huddle around a gigantic [flaming/lightning based/mind eradicating/starry] poop

[real silo]

Fovos is secretly beelzebub, lord of flies

Because his followers gather around shit

Just like flies

[gleaming swallow]

😭 folk

[hollow pivot]

Does anyone know the naming scheme for gods in Calamity?

[raven brook]

There isn't really one

Different gods all have different backgrounds and come from different cultures after all

[hollow pivot]

Do dragons have a naming scheme?

[limpid saddle]

as far as im aware not really

[raven brook]

You'd probably have to ask stip since he's the guy behind alot of the dragon lore

but

There is a language auric dragons spoke, that is draconic

Now actually writing a full language and jbasing the names of that is uhhh. no

But it's fair to atleast generally assume

That the auric dragons all have names that sorta "sound" like they're all part of a language

So for those i suppose the best i can say is,

Just look at the examples we have and try to write smth that sounds similar based on vibes, ig 😭

We know like, what?

Zeratros, Yharon, Vetrasyl

Wit the possible names of Zaelithar and Raelvanna

the e in zaelithar has one of those lines above it

but i dont know how to do that in my key board

[hollow pivot]

So start with a letter from the latter half of the alphabet.

[raven brook]

That does seem like a trend actually 🤔 Though unsure if it's intentional, byeah, that might help make it fit in better regardless

[agile matrix]

Erithalis could also be a draconic name (but patterns help)

[hollow pivot]

Funny how the 2 strongest dragons starts with the last 2 letters of the alphabet.

[raven brook]

Yeah lol

[agile matrix]

lotta vowels actually

[raven brook]

would be extra funny if the third strongest ragon's name s tarted with X

[hollow pivot]

Xylophoneron 🧠

[agile matrix]

zErAtrOs, yhArOn, vEtrAsyl

lotta vowels per consonant

[raven brook]

Tru

[hollow pivot]

They all sound like a mix of norse and greek as well.

So that's like, 3 things I can use in a name.

[agile matrix]

oh wait wheres uh

[raven brook]

Given that Chrysadia is a highly greece-inspired civilization, and the civilization of humans that stood the closest to the auric dragons, having lived in the surface alongside them and directly respecting and worshipping them as their guardians

[agile matrix]

dragon of greed or wahtever

[raven brook]

It makes alot of sense to have some greece inspiration yeah

[agile matrix]

the lousy idiot one who became slime god

[raven brook]

so i woudnt b surprised

if it was intentional

[agile matrix]

glumbus or something

[raven brook]

Gluttony

[hollow pivot]

I thought the Slime god was gluttony?

[agile matrix]

yeah that

[raven brook]

Ok look

I love gaslighting people man, i do

[agile matrix]

whats its name

[raven brook]

But it feels mean to gaslight someone who's genuinely trying to learn stuff

so i'm gonna say

gloomborf is just a name i fucking made up and it got extremely populoar

[agile matrix]

WHAT

[raven brook]

😭

[agile matrix]

theres no way this is betrayal

this is heresy what do you mean

thats such a fitting fucking name!!!

[hollow pivot]

It says in the main doc that Gloomborf is a very placeholder name, and it sounds too much like a Legend of Zelda enemy as well.

[agile matrix]

it has a ton of vowels, sounds norse, and WORKS for a dragon whose soul got turned into a god of slime!!

[raven brook]

Thousands must believe Gloomborf is real.

[hollow pivot]

Is that Dragon of Death “Doomborf”?

[raven brook]

Doomborf 🔥

[agile matrix]

so what their actual fucking name gonna be like Gaongarl

[hollow pivot]

And the Dragon of Tides/Sea is “Monsoondorf”.

[agile matrix]

this is betrayal dude Gloomborf is a perfect name

[raven brook]

me and stip have a enigmatic rivalry in the sense that i convince people gloomborf is a real name and he constantly is cryptic and enigmatic about whether he has actually added gloomborf in as a real name for the dragon or not

[hollow pivot]

Would it be flooding to say more of these?

[agile matrix]

Bloomborf, Dragon of Nature

[raven brook]

it will continue until osmehow the dragon of gluttony's name is revealed ingame and thus we can stop our endless conflict

whgich realistically

might not even happen

so itll be an eternal war

of gaslighting

[agile matrix]

"is it actually that."
"ahhh but under the full moon with a newts eye and toads tongue, maychance..."
"what does that mean its a yes or no"
"hhhmmmmmm"

[hollow pivot]

Nah someone's going to make an addon which revives the dragons called “The Draconic Era” or something like that and it gives a name that everyone starts thinking is real and the Gloomborf cycle starts over again.

[raven brook]

The power balance is kept equal as i never know for sure if gloomborf is truly canon or not.
But stip also has to deal with Gloomborf being accepted as the basically official name due to my agenda

Endless war

neither side ever wins until dragon of gluttony gets a namedrop ingame

world war gloomborf

[simple tangle]

gloomborf

[agile matrix]

making a calamity addon thats so viciously Not True to calamity lore but it could be is kinda my goal

[hollow pivot]

Slime god is gonna get a new NPC during the re-balance which is a Slime god worshipper who namedrops in one piece of dialogue.

[agile matrix]

like yes ofc draedon made a robotic terrarian and ran them through trials and tribulations

[raven brook]

Hey i mean, Statis IS a slime god worshipper

[agile matrix]

ofc you then fight an ai terrarian with post Yharim gear and Lose a Lot

[raven brook]

and a npc

who will get added eventually

[agile matrix]

Of Course You Do That

[raven brook]

there is a NOZNERO CHANCE

that would happen

[hollow pivot]

I thought Statis was the Slime god? I might be dumb.

[raven brook]

Nah, Statis is a Onyx Kinsman, a clan of ninjas that worship the Slime God (and Signus too)

[simple tangle]

theyre both twinks so ig it mkes sense to get em mixed up

[raven brook]

Notably, hes the last surviving kinsman we know of, and seemingly their strongest

he and Braelor, his boyfriend and and champion of Silva, the goddess of life

got

[hollow pivot]

I don't think we've seen or heard about pre-ascension Slime god apart from the gluttony dragon bit.

[raven brook]

extremely close to killing yharim

the only reason they didnt

was because devourer ambushed them and sent them to the distortion at the last minute

Though they're both alive, still

[hollow pivot]

After Statis hesitated.

[raven brook]

Statis managed to escape through a bargian with Signus, and is now wandering the overworld - He'll be a quest NPC npc that can be found wandering through the world eventually

And while he's stukc in the Distortion, braelor is too damn fucking strong so he's still alive

Highly suspicious taht the giant scar in DoG's scrapped p hase 2 resprite was given to him by braelor tbh :p

[hollow pivot]

How did Braelor get so strong? Did he get megabuffed by Silva like the Primordial Wyrm?

[agile matrix]

i find it very funny that if Braelor sleeps, he gets like ambushed by like

Mites.

[raven brook]

He was blessed by Silva yeah

[agile matrix]

and Small Worms

[raven brook]

But also

I think he was just

[mighty zenith]

honestly i headcanon that the reason yharim says that statis hesitates is because he didnt want to give DoG more credit for saving him

[raven brook]

strong as fuck naturally even then

[agile matrix]

so when he wakes up, he just regenerates really really really fast

[raven brook]

He probably was just a extremely competentr fighter with alot of physical s trenhgt

[agile matrix]

basically, im saying that the braelor update will include an update to the shiny stone

[raven brook]

plus he has a powerful set of armor and a giant fucking axe

[raven brook]

It will make the shiny stone a consumable potion and then make photosynthesis an accessory

you will drink the stone

balance achieved

[agile matrix]

both wrong actually; all perma consumable

for some reason approx 202...i wanna say 9? calamity will have made a push for more perma consumables

[raven brook]

In many ways braelor is just

[agile matrix]

leading to consumable%, where its all perma consumable

[raven brook]

reverse yharim

[hollow pivot]

I have a question, how does the Terrarian go around killing Fovos whom the dragons couldn't, kills ghosts, and then proceeds to kill Elementals who shouldn't be killable? Is Terrarian built different or is that just game stuff like rebirth?

[raven brook]

both are by all means

just, normal humans

[simple tangle]

fovos we fight is a shell

[raven brook]

but they're insanely fucking powerful

[simple tangle]

of its former self

[raven brook]

bu while yharim is a piece of shit genocidal maniac

braelor is just

superman

hes just a good guy

[simple tangle]

we dont kill the elementals

[raven brook]

that sxaves people

[hollow pivot]

Yharim only has a point on like, a few of the gods.

[simple tangle]

canonically they just reform iirc?

theyre bound to their domain

so as long as that exists

anahita after i drain the world

[hollow pivot]

Why couldn't the Dragons kill it though? Were they that sapped of strength?

[raven brook]

1. The fovos we fight is a weakened husk, if we fought prime fovos we'd probably be fucked
2. Killing ghosts isn't really special imo - Npcs can do it too with their attacks. I think it's just a matter of worldbuilding
3. The elementals don't truly "die", we just destroy their current physical forms. They'll reform eventually

Probably yeah

[simple tangle]

prime fovos was like

probably the strongest thing

[raven brook]

Prime Fovos was insanely strong

and had killed, so many of htem

permanently from the looks of it

By the time they had weakened it to that state

It probably was just

[simple tangle]

and if it killed em it also ate their auric souls right

[raven brook]

the best choice to seal it away

and not risk anymore fighting

[raven brook]

Yeah

[hollow pivot]

Where did Fovos come from? Some say he's a spawn of Noxus, but how did Noxus make a guy that strong and why?

[simple tangle]

no

[raven brook]

He came from the distortion it seems, but

[simple tangle]

heyre just from the same place

[raven brook]

imo

very very likely not a spawn of noxus

[hollow pivot]

“We killed them and ate their livers.” ~ Skipper

[raven brook]

I think ML, much like Signus

is a separate dsitortion entity

that is unaffiliated with noxus

[simple tangle]

distortion is just filled w eldritch horrors

lol

[raven brook]

lmao

fun place .

atleast Signus is

significantly more reasonable than the other 2 😭

[hollow pivot]

Distortion is like the Australia of Calamity Ig.

[raven brook]

even if he still can be. kind of a shady bastard

[feral skiff]

i live in australia and can confirm this statement

don’t go here, it sucks

[simple tangle]

xeroc and the player about to kill noxus when a random unaffiliated giant distortion monster shows up and eats it

[raven brook]

like at the very least he dosent go around wrecking havoc and destroying shit the worst he'll do is fuck you up a bit with a less-than-ideal bargain

[simple tangle]

this is never addressed again

[hollow pivot]

“There's always a bigger fish in the sea.” ~ Qui-gon Jinn

[raven brook]

Given that Fovos also absorbed the power of

[hollow pivot]

Fovos and the seven Auric Souls:

[raven brook]

Storm (Vetrasyl), Life (Raelvanna) and Zeratros (Primordial Light)

And we know gods ascended with their souls

It seems that some dragons

[simple tangle]

peak fovos was likely stronger than xeroc right

[raven brook]

managed to narrowly escape their demise and only have part of their auric soul sapped away

nah

xeroc st ill stronger

tho peak fovos is like

[hollow pivot]

Do we know who made the Sky Islands and how they float still?

[raven brook]

one of the only cahracters

that would actually have a chance

against xeroc

[simple tangle]

lowk in 10 years

when we get noxus

[hollow pivot]

Question, if the Terrarian manages to get Terminus prior to fighting Yharon, does that mean we can hypothetically absorb his soul?

[simple tangle]

thats gonnaa be so hype

[raven brook]

P sure vetrasyl probably was involved

[simple tangle]

tag team battle with xeroc

[raven brook]

bcuz the chrysadians worshipped Vetrasyl as their guardian

and they were highly connected to cragons

and the only like

civilization we know of

[hollow pivot]

Are the Chrysadians like, Rito?

[raven brook]

ythat actually lived alongside them on the surface

They're just humans iirc

Not really a separate species

But lived on sky islands

[simple tangle]

iirc u'd need to get to the aerie first?im not sure

[raven brook]

Only if you were to know the ascencion riutal

[hollow pivot]

Yharim wasn't in the Aerie when he was to absorb his soul.

[raven brook]

The terminus in of itself isn't how you do the ritual - Its a tool that lets you perfectly ascendwhile performing the ritual

you still gotta know how to do the ritual

[hollow pivot]

Yeah, speaking of, how did Silva use the ritual? Did she just call Xeroc 24/7 Ascension Support?

[raven brook]

This is bcuz he had Yharon's egg, which was taken from the aerie

[simple tangle]

just ask slime god

[raven brook]

xeroc and silva divorced couple theory ..

[simple tangle]

dude prolly knows

[raven brook]

Jokes aside it's unknown rn

It depends alot on when silva ascended

[simple tangle]

"prolly" i mean slime god does know the ritual lol

[raven brook]

If it was after Xeroc threw the terminus in there

Then maybe she just

was there already, given she got dumpd on the abyss twice

If it wasn't then uhhh

idk maybe xeroc was like "damn girl ur mad chill here have this. imma go smoke a blunt now" :sob

[pulsar ocean]

If slime god was one of the first why would he pick the most fodder dragon

[hollow pivot]

Surprised Draedon has no logs on the Ascension Ritual, and we don't find any books in like the Dungeon.

[hollow pivot]

Xeroc Blunt Vs. Nilk?

[raven brook]

Yharim probably was monitoring draedon's ass to make sure

he wasn't researching the ritual

doing so would probably be seen as immediate betrayal even if draedon had no intent of ascending whatsoever

[simple tangle]

theres no way yharim didnt do bookburning

[hollow pivot]

Yharim was probably like that guy from the Sr. Pelo video who goes “What're you doin'?”

[simple tangle]

lets be real

[raven brook]

He absolutely did

Obviously anything that hd the ritual on it

but also just

books that could be bad for his agenda

history books that talked about the positive impact of gods in societies

and that depicted benevolent gods in a poistive light

[simple tangle]

anything about agnus

[hollow pivot]

“The story of the evil dragon of death getting served justice for his crimes? Yeah, put that on the bonfire.”

[raven brook]

the books that talk about God of Dogma's evil ass god government or Providence's genocidal rampages? yeah those can stay

[raven brook]

Yharim burning any mention of Agnus ever because he knows the moment people discovered him they'd realize Yharims a bitch

agnus my glorious king

[simple tangle]

why is yharon so trash

[hollow pivot]

Agnus might be good to his followers, but we don't know if he's actually a good person or if the Dragon was evil or not.

[raven brook]

We've heard stuff about him in the dsicord

He's genuinely one of the most selfless people in the entire lore

like he's literally calamity mod jesus

his story is so fucking tragic man

[simple tangle]

i would simply not get radicalized by The Bird

[hollow pivot]

We don't know if he killed a Storm Dragon, or a Flame Dragon moraltype.

[raven brook]

genuinely one of the nicest people in the story who was willing to do anything just to make his people safe and happy

And then he was killed, all while he willingloy let yharim kill him if it meant his followers get to live

and reborn as nothing but a violent husk of a monster

his legacy tained and in the coming years he'd be seen as nothing more than a (haha) ravaging beast

its soo ucked up dude its so sad

its minos prime coded

[raven brook]

Worth noting it's possible that death could've also been a willing sacrifice

We know death was basically like

stuck on a little forest

becasue of his literall Death Gas

he isolated himself

so his gas wouldnt just

kill everyone around him

Makes me think of him willingly giving up his soul to someone

who he thought could put it to better use

[simple tangle]

calamity au where his followers sacrifice themselves as to prevent him from doing it himself and we get to interact with Agnus

[raven brook]

agnus prime addon

much like the goozma addon, yoou do a certain thing in the ravager fight

and get to fight agnus prime instead

[simple tangle]

would it be as ass as summoning goozma

[raven brook]

it'd probably involve like

making yourself seem like yharim in some way

it dosen't really have to be 100% lore logical becasue i mena

realistically theres no way agnus could come back in any way

hes Dead

[simple tangle]

oh i meaan for sure

[raven brook]

Like maybe Yharon drops a new item

that seems useless but when used in the ravager fight

bam

agnus prime

[simple tangle]

necromancy in cal canonically just doesnt work right

ok it Technically Works

but the most anyone has seemed to get out of it is basically golems

[raven brook]

the single best known execution of it known worldwide is scal's brothers iirc

[simple tangle]

im describing calamitas' brothers as like

golems

fwiw

[raven brook]

bgecause they actually retain some of their memories, sapience

They willingly protect calamitas

and seemingly arent just murder everyone in sight instantly

[simple tangle]

ahh

[raven brook]

But can't really communicate

[simple tangle]

unlike calclone's lol

[raven brook]

or express complex thought

But they atleast do retain that much

of still recognizing calamitas as their sister and wanting to protect her rather htan just

KILL EVERYONE

and also their form is somewhat humanoid

[simple tangle]

kill everyone

[raven brook]

but thats as far as it goes

so like,

that does go to show how low the bar is for necromancy

ytheyre the best necromantic Thing Ever

and even then they're . lacking. in. Alot

[simple tangle]

are all the zombies n sshit we see products of necromancy or are the undead and necromancied undead different

[raven brook]

they are yeah

its just

so many fucking people died bc of the crusade in the heartlands and so much Necromancy Nuclear Bombs have happened hejre that its just. like that

in other continents its

not like this

we're just in Hell TOrture Land

[simple tangle]

lol

random wizard throwing a necromancy nuke inside the dungeon cuz itd be funny

im genuinely really curious as how to a melee attack based fight in like late post ML would look like
dashes are kindve like that but not rly yk
im guessing it'd just be lots of teleporting n predictive attacks?

(on the context of agnus prime)

been thinking abt that for Big Yharim himself, too

limiting arena size scal style seems liek the obvious move but

i do wonder

[agile matrix]

i heard talk of scals necromancy?

me a fan of it overall?

the concept of revival is like. a thing that happens

post humously is Odd but like right on the spot is like

Normalish. Medics and stuff

[raven brook]

im not sure what youre trying to say

you speak really confusingly sometimes 😭 (not trying to offend)

[agile matrix]

no i know thats intentional

if you heal a dude who got shot, you’re just cool

if you heal a dude who’s been dead and in a box, you’re kinda nuts

in both ways

like tmk its either you turn the dead body into something else or you take the dead soul and make what it used to be from physical material

so like Dryad magic vs Necromancy

[pulsar ocean]

How can you tell they’re dead if they’re in a box

[agile matrix]

most time most people who are dead are either in a box or in a ceramic curved box (pot)

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but like, if it's in the box you can't check, so it's basically alive and dead.

[pulsar ocean]

I wonder if there’s some guy that researched this

[wanton pendant]

We won't know if he did or not until we look it up.

[pulsar ocean]

Truly

[wanton pendant]

I call this Schrödinger's Researcher, after the fact that it sounds cool.

[pulsar ocean]

I agree that sounds like a cool word

[split mortar]

Didnt know that

[wanton pendant]

Of course the Brit wouldn't know about other languages.

[reef wigeon]

That Fovos was already weakened. Although, to be honest, the Terrarian is much stronger than any dragon. He can kill Elementals because they can be killed in body but they will return to life

[reef wigeon]

Yharim and his nonsense

[split mortar]

She was dumped in there the first time around azafures founding iirc
A thousand years before fovos bullshitium
Then the second being after she god ascended

[raven brook]

yeah then maybe xeroc was like

"ok youre cool have this"

they divorced sometime after though very unfortunate

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[raven brook]

silva and xeroc are like asgore and toriel

[wanton pendant]

Rude.

[raven brook]

them being divorced is vital to their characterization

its their canon event

they are divorced in every timeline

[split mortar]

True

[wanton pendant]

Theory: Embers is the timeline where they didn't divorce.

[split mortar]

Wrong

[raven brook]

If they dont divorce the world ends in an horrible way

understood

[wanton pendant]

Of course the Brit wants divorce.

[pulsar ocean]

Wouldn’t you know that

[split mortar]

Cheese isnt british

[wanton pendant]

Yes I would know about other languages because I'm not British.

[wanton pendant]

You are.

[pulsar ocean]

Are you sure

[split mortar]

When did i say i want divorce

I agree with kozz here

[wanton pendant]

Here, where you reject No Divorce Theory.

It's all because the British invented divorce.

[split mortar]

I didnt pay attention in history this is news to me

[wanton pendant]

Henry VIII...

[split mortar]

Thought he invented a new way to divorce not divorce itself

[reef wigeon]

Even on the Cor Ex timeline they're divorced

[split mortar]

🔥

[reef wigeon]

And it's a more central part of the plot for Cor Ex

Yeah uh here's the doc again https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xq_qs-GWSI8GAnOhYpm6Ptu9LC9h9iX5_izHAH5-nxA/edit?usp=drivesdk

[pulsar ocean]

They’re not divorced in calamity fell au

[wanton pendant]

That's Calamity in the Don't Dig Up Seed, right?

[pulsar ocean]

Is everything edgier there

[reef wigeon]

Uh pretty literally

Because Xeroc fires Abyss

[wanton pendant]

How will Abyss get a job now!?

[reef wigeon]

But I don't want to spoil anything else

[pulsar ocean]

Just throw providence in the abyss

[reef wigeon]

Just read the document. It's not complete for the reasons specified

(specified in the doc btw)

The document isn't that long

Is just an introduction

[reef wigeon]

And hello siffrin gun how are you

[split mortar]

Did not get enough sleep so bit tired otherwise fine

How are you?

[split mortar]

Cor ex yet to find out about piss hitler

[reef wigeon]

Im fine

Why the e suggestion

[split mortar]

Wait wha

Im on mobile i did that on accident while scrolling

[reef wigeon]

Oh i see

[reef wigeon]

Canonically, Cor Ex lost to Xeroc in a Yu-Gi-Oh duel because he used Ash Blossom to destroy his cards

[limpid saddle]

your deck kinda reeks if you get outed by one ash blossom

[reef wigeon]

Yeah uhhh not my deck

Cor Ex's deck

Although I haven't made a deck myself

[eternal veldt]

Ok so how did the gods became gods again?

[reef wigeon]

Uhhh

Ascension ritual

In a dragon's soul they have found

[eternal veldt]

Dragon's soul? If how about yharon is he a real dragon?

[gritty kraken]

yeah

[eternal veldt]

Damn if only terrarian knows how to do the damn ritual

[gritty kraken]

Should’ve asked hivemind

[split mortar]

Yharons soul also fucks off to the aerie tbf

[eternal veldt]

Damn it. Could haves been god rn

[eternal veldt]

I mean he's unkillable but then again yharim was supposed to absorb him

[feral skiff]

yharim: hey why isn’t my attunement working anymore 😱😔
player: haha i consume your friend soul
yharim: NOOOOOOOOOO why would u DO THIS

[eternal veldt]

So maybe there's a way

[feral skiff]

no

you can’t

the player character would NEVER be able to know that knowledge on the ritual

because it has been gatekept for a long time, the only people left who know the ritual either cannot speak; are unwilling to tell the player; or they’re just dead

[zenith geode]

the terrarian can wait like 12000 years to shave all of yharon's soul away and spend it all on mock attuning auric metal

[feral skiff]

how is the terrarian even able to improvise something like that

how are they even able to steal soul fragments from yharon

[eternal veldt]

Like i said if only the mf knows how.... wait gods still exist and well... xeroc....

[zenith geode]

idk

but it is canon that yharon shaves away a small bit of his soul every time he self-revives

[feral skiff]

xeroc really only communicates with the player during the boss rush and wouldn’t have a good reason to tell them the ritual, because the only dragon left is Yharon which canonically they already killed by the time they get to the boss rush

technically the player could speedrun the terminus earlier but that wouldn’t change much

[eternal veldt]

Wait is yharon straight up dead already when you kill him i thought bro just screws off to revive again

[feral skiff]

no he does the revival thing

[zenith geode]

oh yeah he fucking dies

but he revives in 10 years

[feral skiff]

his soul is just in the aerie and inaccessible to the player

[zenith geode]

as a little baby

[eternal veldt]

Bet. I can wait

[feral skiff]

i actually feel semi-bad for yharon because he’s nigh-immortal and rebirths forever, so he’s gonna have to live by himself without the funny man around him anymore

[eternal veldt]

Also didn't know xeroc talks to you in boss rush

[feral skiff]

that’s the only time he does that yeah

does allat just to give you a rock

isn’t that crazy?

[split mortar]

Tbf it is a aerie rock

[feral skiff]

but it’s an immortal rock which is much stronger than even auric metal and whatever draedon 25th century materials he uses

[raven brook]

I wouldnt say never

I think there are

definitely ways to discover it out there

It isn't impossible

It's just hard

[eternal veldt]

Fr that's why he should just give us his soul fr fr

Besides i do not think current terrarian would even be able tp match yharim without any upgrades to his gear.

[raven brook]

And you wouldn't be able to get that knowledge with the resources ingame

[feral skiff]

wait how would that happen

[raven brook]

I mean

Cmon man

[eternal veldt]

CURRENTLY

[feral skiff]

wouldn’t that be nigh-impractical

[raven brook]

There's a entire world out there

We only explore a single continent

[cloud ibex]

the terrarian is a defector from the cultists in the dungeon who was involved with erasing knowledge of the ritual

ez

[raven brook]

Go find a god out there who's willing or something

[raven brook]

Not currently

you just won't

That will never be an option ingame

[eternal veldt]

Damn

[raven brook]

For several reasons

[eternal veldt]

Sad

[raven brook]

There is no way to make a "Lore accurate" ascended terrarian

[feral skiff]

i think the current end-game calamity terrarian could win against yharim
(because it’s END-GAME gear and yharim comes right after scal & exo mechs)

[long scaffold]

Who is Celestia

[feral skiff]

(when he gets added)

[raven brook]

because ascencion is something highly dependent on your own personality, ideals, etc

Your domain morphs to fit who you are as a person

Providence absorbed the auric soul of flame, and she got the domain of ashes, due to her desire to see the world be reduced to nothing but silent ashes

[eternal veldt]

I forgot end game terrarian kills gods

[raven brook]

Agnus absorbed the auric soul of death, and got the domain of sacrifice, due to his willingness to sacrifice himself for others

There is no way to make this work with the terrarian

because up to you etc etc

[eternal veldt]

Terrarian the god killer LMAO because yharon is a phoenix bro doesn't die till all gods are dead

[gritty kraken]

I like the part where terrarian turn into fargo mutant after absorbing yharon soul

[raven brook]

You kill like,

3 gods

And also yharon has nothing to do with gods in terms of why he rebirths

[feral skiff]

because the terrarian is YOU!!!
[obligatory terrarian is you meme image here]

[raven brook]

like whatsoever

[split mortar]

Prehardmode terrarian kills a god

[eternal veldt]

Nahh pretty sure the mf runs away

[split mortar]

Oh true

Queenslime

[eternal veldt]

Does the terrarian canonically dies?

[raven brook]

yeah

if youre asking about

whether respawn is canon or not

[eternal veldt]

Or gameplay porpuses

[raven brook]

yeah respawning isnt canon

[eternal veldt]

😭

Hmm well that sucks can't be an ascended terrarian

[raven brook]

Theoretically you can mkae a story where the terrarian ascends and it can make sense

[obsidian plume]

imagine being yharim, trying to brainwash this random person on the planet and then seeing them die to a purple slime

[eternal veldt]

Honestly i would really be happy if it made building range infinite. Makes building stuff easier

[raven brook]

It's just not something you will be able to do ingame ever

[feral skiff]

my headcanon on player notability

king slime/EOC = local legend
WOF = known throughout the region
plantera/golem = known throughout the continent
providence/DOG = known throughout the planet (yharim also starts taking you seriously)

[raven brook]

There's just literally no way to make an ascended terrarian work

personality quiz the game gives you when you ascend. depending on the answers your sprite changes and you get different buffs

😭

[eternal veldt]

True not only that the only remaining dragon has no correlation to what the terrarian is

[raven brook]

there dosent treally need to be any correlation

Attunement is what needs the dragon and person to have a bond, which is a diff thing

its what yharim and yharon have

[obsidian plume]

Would a perfect ascension with yharon work? I doubt it would ever happen in game but would it still work if it was conceptually in

[eternal veldt]

Rip wait so does that mean yharim has the strength of a dragon so he was able to kill gods while the terrarian is a random mf that gets stronger every kill?

[raven brook]

no

Respectfully please read the doc 😭

[gritty kraken]

The terrarian is

[raven brook]

I think you're

[feral dagger]

the terrarian can carry 1 quintillion tons of materials or something like that

[raven brook]

really clueless about of really important things

[eternal veldt]

I will when i finish the game

Im nearly there

[raven brook]

i see

[eternal veldt]

Just about to kill calamitas

Well not kill

Defeat

[raven brook]

the terrarian scales to boundless or something because they can carry 99999 platinum blocks and thus lift as much as a planet or uhhh idk man

terrarian beats goku yep

[eternal veldt]

That just 1 inventory space

[split mortar]

Read the eidolon wyrm bestiary entry

[feral skiff]

the terrarian is you, so that means you can become nameless deity and scale infinitely above everything else

[zenith geode]

the terrarian is simultaneously the weakest and strongest characters in fiction

[feral skiff]

at their weakest, they have a copper shortsword
at their prime, they have miracle weapons out of incomprehensible materials that can annihilate most gods

[zenith geode]

the terrarian has both glass bones and paper skin and is made of neutronium but not at the same time

[rigid echo]

so whats calamity's lore behind the martian invasion

is it just deadass sci-fi martians coming down or is there some tragic backstory

[split mortar]

Their world got fucked up and is now inhospitable so they invade so they have a planet to live on

[rigid echo]

thank you the real siffrin

[eternal veldt]

Someone DM me the link to the docs

Also is it a whole novel?

Or just stories of individual characters?

Yharims whisperings just gives me more questions than answers

[long scaffold]

^

[wanton pendant]

The Mystery Dungeon Method.

[wanton pendant]

Pins.

[feral skiff]

it’s like the novel “The War of the Worlds” except the aliens are trivially weak

[wanton pendant]

I mean, their immune systems were...

[feral skiff]

no they had Heat-Rays and smoke blasts that insta-killed people

the terraria martian invasion isn’t anywhere near that

they have laser blasters and that’s it

[wanton pendant]

That UFO laser would beg to differ.

[feral skiff]

no wait actually you have a point, the UFO laser sucks

[wanton pendant]

And also, that is the plot of The War of the Worlds. The aliens had terrible immune systems.

[feral skiff]

(ye i know, i read the entire thing cause i was bored)

(a little off-topic, but please read the novel, it’s really good and doesn’t just focus on the aliens)

[wanton pendant]

I believe I did read some version of it once.

[feral skiff]

it’s actually public domain now

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, Auric Soul

[reef wigeon]

Dead #lore_discussion channel theory

[agile matrix]

chat doesnt talk for one hour its dead

but watch! my necromantic powers

[reef wigeon]

NO NO WAIT-

[tropic oak]

brains……

[reef wigeon]

What are you doing...

[agile matrix]

go my Discord Friends

[reef wigeon]

No, sybau

Yes Im just destroying your Discord friends

[reef wigeon]

I find Agnus's story tragic

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

Dead #lore-discussion channel theory

[raven brook]

Who?

[wanton pendant]

That's the horse from that kids show I think.

[reef wigeon]

Is the thing behind Agnus his sigil or smt?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[wary sinew]

what is the current lore on moon lord btw?

[woeful karma]

in the pins

[wary sinew]

long long ago i remember yharim wanted to summon him for shits and giggles, and when some fellas said no he burned the ocean and all that

[woeful karma]

the lore reference doc is a glossary of in-game lore, while the introductory doc is a cohesive explanation of all lore both in-game and revealed by devs

[woeful karma]

fuck i forgot that was his motivation 😭

petulant manchild yharim

truly he was fabsol's real self insert

[wary sinew]

old calamity lore was just plain silly

[woeful karma]

giant beast from the distortion that invaded terraria 800 years ago and nearly wiped out the dragons (and then, probably, all life on the planet)
it had the power to slurp up souls with its xenomorph tongue and control them, which it used to steal auric souls and turn them into the pillars
the dragons ultimately defeated it, tearing it in half and sealing it on the moon, where it remained until you killed the dragon cultists during their ritual to reinforce the seal and released it

its power was also the inspiration for the ascension ritual

[split mortar]

Oh huh damn

[dusk laurel]

😨

[woeful karma]

#lore-discussion message yea

[dusk laurel]

epicsauce

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

Octo pointed at the message

[wanton pendant]

So Xeroc looked at the big squid thing eating their friends and went; "I'm sure this could come in handy."

[split mortar]

I mean
It did

[wary sinew]

Seeing this i’m guessing that the blood moon no longer has any ties to xeroc? I could have sworn that in old old lore the moon lord was originally a part of xeroc

[woeful karma]

yea

[split mortar]

Blood moons predate everyone
They just sorta happen

[wanton pendant]

Moon's Haunted...

[woeful karma]

in old lore blood moons were xeroc looking at the planet

which was fucking crazy

one of the few really cool things from old lore

[wanton pendant]

Ah, so old lore Xeroc must have thought that everyone on the planet was insane.

[woeful karma]

the implication was that xeroc was so powerful that his gaze alone caused The Horrors

[wary sinew]

Very true

[woeful karma]

rereading it the blood moon lore item does imply there is an origin and yharim does know it but he wont tell us

[wary sinew]

But his gaze was a reflection of a fragment of him trapped inside the moon

[wary sinew]

Thank you yharim very cool

[split mortar]

Oh huh

[woeful karma]

"blood moons trace their origins to the dawn of history"
to me this says he knows how they started

[wanton pendant]

'This malevolence is not the work of any god. Blood moons trace their origins to the dawn of history.
It is an occurrence equally sinister and banal. Everyone is acclimated to the shambling hordes of undead.
Organized societies are not threatened in the slightest. If anything, they welcome the opportunity to train green foot soldiers.
Those with fire in their veins may strike out on their own, to revel in the slaughter.
That is how I remember the sleepless nights from my younger days… Knee deep in corpses.'
Consider, he doesn't know, but wants to seem smart.

[woeful karma]

true!!!

what if none of this shit happened and yharims just lying

[wanton pendant]

Yharim made up his backstory so people would feel bad for him.

[woeful karma]

FACT: Yharim MADE UP the CRUSADE so you would FIGHT HIM and EXPERIENCE CALAMITY

[wanton pendant]

'Calamitas' is actually a random baker he hired to dress up in a $12 Halloween costume and throw fireworks at you.

'Permafrost' is a retired snowboarder in one of those inflatable balls painted blue.

'Draedon' is actually made of cardboard.

[split mortar]

Yharon is just him in a fursuit

[woeful karma]

so thats why he dies in 1 hit...

[reef wigeon]

Distortion being that wanted to destroy Terraria and probably absorbed some Auric Dragons souls

[woeful karma]

reply fail laugh at this user

[reef wigeon]

Bad connection

:(

[split mortar]

Siffrin

[woeful karma]

yeah

[reef wigeon]

Felix Cor Ex

[wanton pendant]

Read my Documents.

[woeful karma]

the fucking pages man

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/isat-in-stars-and-time-siffrin-factory-gif-14614043240665565992

[reef wigeon]

Wait seriously?

[woeful karma]

yea

[woeful karma]

.

[reef wigeon]

I see

Thanks Cei

My lung itches
—huetal huenic

Ahhh yes, my favorite metal, huehuery also called huetal

[wanton pendant]

My lung iron.
-Mark Iplier.

[reef wigeon]

So god ascension is alien based technology

[wary sinew]

This thing

I’ve seen it even in old 2018 messages

What is it

[reef wigeon]

Idk

[wary sinew]

[split mortar]

Sans burger face thibg

[reef wigeon]

Fun fact: Cor Ex created his own magic school, PL Magic

[wary sinew]

Apparently uncle danny made it

[reef wigeon]

It actually means "Pretty Lazy magic"

Because Cor Ex made it to make everything easier

But at the same time it uses Primordial Light

So it has both meanings

[raven brook]

To me it's not that necessarily

It's more like

Blood moons are a event that has been recorded to happen since really early on in recorded history, but it odsen't necessarily mean the world knows why they happen

like algal blooms can be seen recorded even in the bible but for a really long while people had no idea what they are and asumed it was evil spirits and/or the devil doing evil shit in the ocean

fucked up how the moon is jsut evil in terraria calamity mod

like there is no explanation for it its just fucking evil

necromancy gets stronger at night, thus the zombies

blood moons are caused by the moon

solar eclipses are caused by the moon

there is no explanation for why it does any of this

moon's evil

"Hey Draedon, why don't you set up some operations on the moon? Is it because of the imprisoned behemoth?"
"No. Moon's Evil."
"What does that mean??? Huh???"
"Moon's evil."

draedon then walks away and dosen't elaborate

[long bloom]

moon's haunted.

[raven brook]

honestly

i do genuinely kinda hope we never get a concrete answer on Why the moon is like that

getting some clues and things that could be pieced together si cool

but i think it just being unexplaianbly fucked up with no solid ansawer would be a cool little eldritch mystery in of itself

[reef wigeon]

So that's why the pillars have altered domains

[raven brook]

I think the pilars are their own weird little thing

since they seem to be

directly made from absorbed souls

[reef wigeon]

What I mean

[raven brook]

moon lord just. eats up souls. and shits out pillars i guess.;

eldritch poop boss fight

[reef wigeon]

Is that Moonlord altered the domains of the souls they absorbed because their personality

Or something like that

[obsidian plume]

oh so like the pillars are similar to yharims dumpsites

damn, moonlord is yharims father

[split mortar]

More like if yharim made the biomes of god essence spawn endless warriors for him and were subservient to him

[wanton pendant]

Moon's Haunted!

[wanton pendant]

I knew it...

[young socket]

"draedon, is the moon big?"

[reef wigeon]

"Moon's haunted"

[untold forge]

Draedon returning from the moon and saying the moon is haunted is such a funny idea

[wanton pendant]

Moon's Haunted Theory...

[light linden]

unironically it probably is

with the half dead soul stealing squid being stuck on it for so long

[wanton pendant]

That's not what Moon's Haunted Theory is.

In Moon's Haunted Theory, it was like that before the Moon Lord got there, and continues to be haunted after.

[reef wigeon]

New contribution. Perhaps the moon was haunted before Moonlord, but when he was sealed within it... The moon was empowered!

[woeful karma]

ermrmmmmmmm actguallyy it s ectoban............

my chud son will be real one day

[long scaffold]

Legion of Celestia
Is that a character or just something that sounded cool

[wanton pendant]

There is no character in Calamity named 'Celestia'.

[dusk laurel]

celestia would be related to the word celestial, which is a reference to the fact all of the elemental weapons are space related

not that its a person

[agile matrix]

isnt that the queen of Equestria

[dusk laurel]

while the suffix ia is common in person names its also common in place names

[wanton pendant]

Those horses need a revolution.

[long scaffold]

Then is it a place?

[wanton pendant]

No location of that name is known to me.

That isn't filled with horses.

[long scaffold]

So just sounds cool, got it

[reef wigeon]

Symbolic or literal word to describe the nature of that item

[leaden bridge]

iys named that because too many weapons were already celestial something and they wanted to spice it up

[untold forge]

eradinus just taking a nap on the moon when dragons seal away an eldritch abomination on his front lawn

[reef wigeon]

I have an idea of Eridanus being an emergency vessel for the power that Moonlord has. I mean, just a headcanon

Because Fargo's is not part of Calamity's lore

[hollow pivot]

Would it not be closer to fanfiction than to headcanon?

[reef wigeon]

Well yeah

But

I'm not really rewritting the story

[untold forge]

I need an image of the guy being disappointed calling it head canon and bring happy when it's called fanfiction actually

[wanton pendant]

You want a photo of me? Ok, that's just weird.

[untold forge]

Ew no lmao

[feral skiff]

are there other planets in calamity mod

[long bloom]

several

mars, for example

where the martians come from

[wanton pendant]

Explicitly mentioned.

[long bloom]

draedon mentions other planets near terraria existing, but they're all inexplicably desolate and barren

[wanton pendant]

Although, there are seemingly none other filled with life.
Like, I don't know, a giant monster that shows up and tries to kill stuff.
Ah, wait, it's the Combine, clearly.

Mars Theory.

The biggest question in Calamity is why is Mars there.

Because, like, Mars is real.

[feral skiff]

does this imply that Calamity Mod takes place on EARTH?!?

or did Mars get transported to another universe?

[untold forge]

It could be easy to just write it off as a random planet and not our mars

[long bloom]

it takes place on a fictional planet called terraria

we know it's not earth because there's only 5 continents

[wanton pendant]

Clearly we're counting the Americas and Eurasia as only one.

[hushed jasper]

How do we know that?

[long bloom]

dev statements

[hushed jasper]

Ah

[split mortar]

The way we know like half the random world building info.

[wanton pendant]

The continents are totally real... we hope.

[sinful adder]

Quick guide to Calamity Cosmology:
The game takes place on a planet called Terraria.
Terraria had something called a "World Soul" which later became the many auric souls posessed by the dragons.
The Moon is a strange magical rock in the sky. It is likely much smaller than the real life moon, possibly only a little larger than the moon lord.
The Sun is not much larger than the Moon and is much smaller than Terraria. It orbits Terraria.
Stars are tiny, at most planetoid sized, and either orbit planets or float freely in space. They are made of mana. The Astral and regular meteors were stars.

[wanton pendant]

Moon's Haunted.

And it's probably not that small... I'd hope.

[sinful adder]

Other planets exist but none nearby have any life. Mars is the name of a distant planet which once had life but now does not, and is where the martians come from.

[lucid wigeon]

i still don't know what's the lore implications of the dungeon archives

[split mortar]

Deepest part of the dungeon idk

[wanton pendant]

That's where they put the things and the stuff and probably books.

[hollow pivot]

Pillars are extensions of Fovos' power, they're closer to the Profaned Guardians in the way that they're a shard of power made to do a specific thing.

[scenic olive]

those pillars are Worlds that fovos consumed

Headcanon :Fovos would have a fifth pillar if the dragons had lost

[hollow pivot]

👀 Where does it say this?

[scenic olive]

headcanon :

[soft flame]

apparently that sorta serves as an explanation as to why fovos is so powerful

i.e. he ate other world souls

[hollow pivot]

He ate them?

[scenic olive]

only implication

Fovos is an eldritch cosmic horror after all

[soft flame]

he came to kill the dragons for terraria's world soul's fragments if i remember right

and i THINK the new lore says he's of the disortion

through a bestiary entry or something

[hollow pivot]

Is item tooltip lore canon or does it have to be Legend Lore?

[scenic olive]

did he actually?, is there any new lore doc?

oh bestiary

[hollow pivot]

Read pins.

[soft flame]

often it's a quote associated with it

some like some wulfrum weapons can be considered

[scenic olive]

whoa i totally missed that lore update

[soft flame]

the blunderbus being described as an explanation of the wulfrum metal's nature of wide uses and the resourcefulness of its users

[hollow pivot]

The major Lore Revamp was like, almost 3 years ago.

[scenic olive]

well im not that outdated on the lore

only the recent ones like bestiary lores

[soft flame]

yea those are fairly new

[warm gull]

fovotron

[cerulean rain]

Ay only 3 years ago

Not too shabby

[hollow pivot]

Is there a lore explanation for the Cosmolight?

[warm gull]

taylor hit sand gif

[crystal mortar]

I lowk wanna learn the lore. Do i have to read an entire document?

[feral skiff]

check the pins

it’s in the pins. look in the pins. they’re in my walls. check the pins before it’s too late for me

[crystal mortar]

so do i have to read the whole document?

[feral skiff]

not really

just the parts you’re interested in

[crystal mortar]

but like im interested in everything

[feral skiff]

if you observe this channel, you’d probably know about the important parts in due time

[crystal mortar]

alright thx man

[long bloom]

there's a lotta lore

[cerulean rain]

There's also a pretty good hour long video someone made on it, it's like 5 months old so it may be a little outdated

but from what I've read it's pretty dedicated

[crystal mortar]

watching it rn lmao

[crystal mortar]

i can see that

[long bloom]

some of it is just wrong, also it's like 10% of the total lore

[cerulean rain]

What a champ

[cerulean rain]

Yeah there's a lot of lore..

[crystal mortar]

i just wanna mainly learn about yharim, scal, yharon, xeroc, and some other minor things

[eternal veldt]

Genocide, birb genocide and clueless guy giving a birb mercy killing but gets misunderstood by hitler unknowingly started a genocide which he decided to do nothing about

[crystal mortar]

and what about evil witch red fire lady?

[eternal veldt]

Scal idk much about yet

[crystal mortar]

parents die, tyrant finds, oo necromacy, buff, oh no curse

[agile matrix]

former child soldier, indoctrinated after blowing up her home city, now not a fan of anything relating to Yharim

[eternal veldt]

But from what i read from yharims whispers

Orpan got drafted by the third reich started to commit atrocities but relized it sooner and decided to defect along with a boomer

The boomer is ice king btw

[crystal mortar]

so forced child labor, kill family and people, god finds out, helps, then curses

[eternal veldt]

Mf is frozone

[agile matrix]

other way around

killed family and people when very very young, i think permafrost finds them, yharim is like "ooooo nuclear warfare", indoctrinates her

[eternal veldt]

Btw that powerfull mage dies to a martian lazer which is hilarious

[agile matrix]

(didnt meant to kill)

[crystal mortar]

bad child, old frozen man, nuclear warfare

[agile matrix]

suuure

[eternal veldt]

Yep basically

[eternal veldt]

Also is that ice guy in game strong?

[agile matrix]

probably one of the strongest mages of his type

he's just a pacifist

[eternal veldt]

Why can't he help me then. Tryna fix yharims goofy shits

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim refused to eat yharon become a god, got dipped in lava by the gods, teamed up with yharon to kill every god and like half of the world population, currently depressed because he realized he’s not finishing the job because Xeroc is leagues above him and silva is immortal

[eternal veldt]

Lmao imagine if the devs gave us 2 options to either side with xeroc or yharim

Would be crazy

[crystal mortar]

me and my birb arent strong enough, fuck.

[eternal veldt]

Not even noxus level

Endgame terrarian with no help from the gods could kill you 😭

[crystal mortar]

noxus was one of the worst calam add on bosses, but thats another topic

[agile matrix]

we side with Whoever The Fuck We Want

we could literally do nothing and bang rocks together

[eternal veldt]

Noxus ain't in game the addon ain't canon

[agile matrix]

its Up To You :)

[fading sun]

im rather fond of the dragonfolly

[crystal mortar]

i mean the fight from old WotG

[eternal veldt]

Lmao funny enough terrarian is a threath to both of them

[crystal mortar]

despise him

[fading sun]

skill issue

dragonfollies are goated

[eternal veldt]

Just like how providence sees terrarian

[agile matrix]

yharim is not a threat to us, theoretically

Xeroc is entirely neutral tmk

[eternal veldt]

No i meant we are a threat to them

[agile matrix]

ant v the sun

[crystal mortar]

i mean fight wise, horrid boss

[agile matrix]

we are not a threat to Xeroc

[fading sun]

didnt play in a while can't say

i just like how it looks

[crystal mortar]

valid

[crystal mortar]

boring ass fight

[eternal veldt]

People keeps saying that yet terrarian grown strong insanely fast

[crystal mortar]

supposed to be post moon lord but personally i do him pre lunatic

[crystal mortar]

the jump from slime god to WoF is lowk crazy

[eternal veldt]

Specially that dying isn't canon so mf just kills everything in first try

[crystal mortar]

going from a pussycat slime to the protecter of evil 😭

[eternal veldt]

Don't slander my goat like that 😭 that thing is literally a god.

[crystal mortar]

he flees then gets his ass beat as queen slime

king slime beter, they're the goat

[long bloom]

you have a true

[pulsar ocean]

Slime god first guy to learn the ritual and picked the most fodder dragon btw

[crystal mortar]

slime god is a FRAUD

[long bloom]

isn't it implied that dogma was one of the first gods after xeroc?

[eternal veldt]

YOU MEAN I COULD HAVE ASKED HIM?!!?!?!

Could have been god rn frfr

Terrarian missing every opportunity to ascend

[eternal veldt]

Dawg you one of the frauds. Couldn't catch the mf and can't even kill empress of light 😭

[crystal mortar]

Shhh

I got a birb tho

Empress to much of a baddie to kill fr fr

[eager bluff]

yes

implied dogma was one of the first i dont think theres any implications on when slime god ascended

[eternal veldt]

Dogma ded?

I haven't read the docs yet

[eager bluff]

became part of hive mind

after yharim killed him

[eternal veldt]

Oh yeah hivemind is just all the dead gods right

[eager bluff]

not all or even most

but a chunk of them

[eternal veldt]

I see i see

[long bloom]

half the dead evil gods from the not-a-cult yharim was in

[eternal veldt]

Mostly evil gods then

Terrarian had a lot of opportunities to gain the ascension ritual knowledge it's hilarious

Yet didn't

[eager bluff]

not really

[long bloom]

slime god doesn't wanna tell you
providence doesn't wanna tell you
evil2 and ravager can't tell you
xeroc probably doesn't wanna tell you

[eternal veldt]

Well to be fair terrarian is like a janitor fixing everyone's shit

[long bloom]

true

[eternal veldt]

Making him a god would probobly just end up making even more mess

[long bloom]

but most gods probably didn't intend for all the auric dragons to die, so having you permanently kill the last one might be bad

[eager bluff]

hive mind is. a hive mind and also mostly dead and also probably not sane
slime god i dont know if it physically could considering lack of mouth and whatnot but even if it could it wouldnt
provi just wants you dead and if you're a god its harder to ensure that
ravager is a feral fucking animal
xeroc not only doesnt know who the fuck you are until you do boss rush but also probably doenst want to tell you

[eternal veldt]

Would anger yharim which would be worth it for me

[long bloom]

god of ragebait

[eternal veldt]

Im gonna do it out of spite LMAO

[eternal veldt]

I think endgame terrarian would draw xeroc's attention. Again. The mf kills everything even gods in first try

[long bloom]

they still don't really know your motivation

[eternal veldt]

My motivation is to piss of yharim as much as possible

[eager bluff]

no xeroc just doesnt know who the fuck you are until you do the rough equivalent of walking into his house and slapping him on the face

[eternal veldt]

LMAO

[long bloom]

they literally tell you they've seen your recent accomplishments

[eternal veldt]

I mean he literally is just a random hobo

[eternal veldt]

Yharim whispering to a random hobo in terraria sounds hilarious

[eager bluff]

"It is a surprise to see there is another who is courageous enough to have retrieved it, particularly given these circumstances."
"A mortal this time, no less! How interesting..."

[long bloom]

pluh

[real glen]

Make that one calval item
I forgot the name it was something like Yharim on stick

[eternal veldt]

Thus

[eternal veldt]

I mean if the same random ant suddenly killed my best friend, the seal team six and the president i'd be surprised too and worried

[long bloom]

i don't think xeroc is worried
they dgaf about anything that happens on terraria and know for a fact nobody can touch them

[eternal veldt]

Let the devs cook

We haven't seen terrarian's full potential

Ya'll glazing him too much

The murder hobo might get stronger we just gotta wait for an update

[long bloom]

random guy vs the unmatched power of the sun

[long bloom]

a writer has said it would take 40 yharims with perfect coordination to kill xeroc

[eternal veldt]

Random guy killed gods and monstrosities and off to kill hitler btw

[long bloom]

the terrarian cannot do that

[eternal veldt]

Have you seen the terrarian's power jump?

[hollow pivot]

Megamind?

[long bloom]

the devs have explicitly said multiple times that you won't kill xeroc in the potential bossfight

it'll be a spar

[eternal veldt]

Yeah i know and being able to spar with god is a feat in itself

[long bloom]

this is true

especially xeroc

doesn't mean you have a remote chance of beating them

[feral skiff]

how many draedons would it take to kill xeroc

[hollow pivot]

[eternal veldt]

Isn't draedon weak as hell?

[long bloom]

like
just his regular body?

infinite

[feral skiff]

no what if they sent hordes of exo mechs towards xeroc

[hollow pivot]

Lots of Draedons would a Xeroc need if a Draedon could kill Xeroc.

[feral skiff]

how many would it take

[long bloom]

by the only scale we have, over 40 of each mech

[eternal veldt]

1 exo mech = 1 yharim?

[long bloom]

since all 4 of them together are meant to be as strong as yharim before he fucked off to train in the aerie

[hollow pivot]

Draedon will be limited by the amount of Sea Prisms until he can find a way to atomically recreate matter.

[eternal veldt]

Nahhh i still think it's plausable

Beating them could be possible. But a fight to the death would probobly end up destroying terraria so the devs don't want that

[long bloom]

have you ever tried to fight the sun

[eternal veldt]

Devs would give us the power to do so cuz if not there is no fair fight for the spar with xeroc

[scenic olive]

the terrarian is you ahh

[hollow pivot]

I will say, Draedon has as much potential as science does, and since there are other dimensions, and it's possible to travel between, he can probably find something strong enough, mass-produce it then kill Xeroc.

[scenic olive]

hes gonna travel through multiverse and gather the strongest terrarians of all multiverses to defeat xeroc

[long bloom]

dude the distortion can barely exist
there's not some secret xeroc killing technology

[eternal veldt]

Or just make an insanely strong thing with the power of the sun in the palm of my hands

[hollow pivot]

Draedon just becomes Megamind and uses the Full Concentrated Power of the Sun?

[eternal veldt]

Give the terrarian ironman's reactor fr

[long bloom]

so far in the game you need auric to harness even a sliver of primordial light, and draedon can't use it

[hollow pivot]

Draedon beats anyone with Prep time, unless it's batman, then they stalemate.

[eternal veldt]

Also doesn't empress of light uses a portion of xeroc's domain?

[scenic olive]

im gonna mod calamity to one shot xeroc

[calm patio]

loud incorrect buzzer.

[long bloom]

we dunno

[hollow pivot]

Yo, it's one of Draedon's drones!

[long bloom]

her lore was rewritten and that isn't mentioned afaik

[eternal veldt]

Idk i just read it from yharims whispers thingy

[long bloom]

wait nvm the lore item is the same yeah

but she's magic god essence bullshit

[scenic olive]

is it true that draedon use the hover chair because he wants to aura farm