lore-discussion

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc/Evil Xeroc.

[spare pier]

Draedon/Permafrost

[onyx river]

Ay so I have a question
If the Wall Of Flesh was created by alchemists in the underworld how does the guide fit into the creation. You kill him to spawn the wall. We he part of its creation

[reef wigeon]

Xeroc/Cor Ex

[spare pier]

Long story short

[onyx river]

I've been wondering this for a while

[woeful karma]

he was a warlock apprentice who was one of the many who took care of it and controlled it

[spare pier]

^

[onyx river]

Ahh ok

[spare pier]

Demons saw the Guide doing that and were like

[split mortar]

Skill issue

[pulsar ocean]

if Cthulhu means great beast does “eye of a great beast” imply a greater beast

[spare pier]

"HOLY SHIT HE'S SO FUCKING COOL we have to worship him"

[onyx river]

That makes sense

[spare pier]

And then did what they did

[onyx river]

Yeaaaaahhh

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, Moon Lord.

[woeful karma]

its like calling something "eye of satan" basically

[spare pier]

The Wall of Flesh comes for the Guide's soul since it recognizes his master

[pulsar ocean]

So they are connected?

[onyx river]

Lowkey cooked with that one

[woeful karma]

connected folklorically

not actually

[spare pier]

It was hard

[woeful karma]

oh i didnt realize this bit

[onyx river]

Yeah I can only imagine lol. With so much ingame lore from vanilla its hard to make it work

[spare pier]

Yeah that's why sacrificing the Guide summons the Wall

[woeful karma]

that makes sense.... esp since human souls :sevenhumansouls: were already in wof anyways

[onyx river]

The Guide must have seen some shit lmao

[spare pier]

The Wall can also be lured by normal souls

But it's less reliable

The Demons did that in attempts to see and worship it

[pulsar ocean]

Why is noxus pursuing god essence instead of just absorbing 7 human souls

[wanton pendant]

Budget cuts.

[woeful karma]

SEVEN human souls?

in THIS economy?

[onyx river]

I havent been in this discord in 6 years

Are yall still.making patron weapons

[wanton pendant]

No.

[spare pier]

Nah

[onyx river]

I made mine in like late 2020

And donated to the patron

[reef wigeon]

Because 28 souls are better than 7
God Soul = Auric Soul + normal soul
Auric Soul = normal soul + world soul shard

[onyx river]

I just started getting back into this mod. I like the nee Calamitas sprite. Better than the eye of cthulu lookin ahh

😂

[woeful karma]

god i hope calclone gets her new sprite soon

[pulsar ocean]

What weapon did you request

[onyx river]

It was some post DOG magic weapon

[woeful karma]

like shes actually the only boss whose sprite does not reflect her lore in the slightest

[onyx river]

Or rouge I dont remember

[woeful karma]

"it was post dog" buzz lightyear gif

[split mortar]

Ravager rework when

[simple tangle]

hive mind perf are not nearly as bad but.

[woeful karma]

rav at least looks like what hes meant to be

[pulsar ocean]

Everyone likes post dog can’t blame em

[simple tangle]

theyre pretty bad

post dog is already filled to the brim with shit you'll only use on yharon :/

[cosmic minnow]

Hai

[woeful karma]

because its the highest tier available for patron weapons
if it was auric it would be auric tier
if it was shadowspec it would be shadowspec tier

[pulsar ocean]

Do you have dna

[cosmic minnow]

No

[heavy zenith]

Lucky

[wanton pendant]

Yharim's stronger soldier.

[eager bluff]

theres a shockingly small subset of auric tier donor items

only 4 if we arent counting nadir because that was originally post dog

[reef wigeon]

Okay, but then why does this exist

[simple tangle]

backlog

[eager bluff]

yeah the backlog is massive

its like 30 ish weapons long currently iirc

[spare pier]

Yeah, backlog

[eager bluff]

this is after a bunch of them have been implemented btw it used to be way worse

[plucky juniper]

yknow what they have to do

make Starmageddon auric tier

[reef wigeon]

Guys Have U Played Clamity Mod? It's Really Good LMAO

[plucky juniper]

like come on man

it was intended by its patreon to be auric

its name is clearly a successor to Starmada

and also

post-dog got too many ranger options

we dont need another

[reef wigeon]

Do U Like My Capitalization? LOL

[simple tangle]

what are ru doing??

[reef wigeon]

Im Lifing My Enjoy LMAO

[reef wigeon]

Oh Thats Right: I Only Play On Mobile LOL

(No, Im joking, I've been playing Terraria on PC since I got a PC)

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, I really LOVE talking like Queen

[spare pier]

You missed my Kanaya era

[spare pier]

That's fucked up man

[reef wigeon]

Oh right, I remember the scene where Xeroc completely Obliterates Nameless Deity

Clearly, that does not contradict the enormous gap between power scales

[heavy zenith]

I had no idea you rewrote some lore items in this update, im loving it! Thank you for all that you do @spare pier

[spare pier]

Thank you! :D

[reef wigeon]

Laura, I'll try to make a design for the swap ascended Yharim on paper tomorrow

[spare pier]

Alright

[reef wigeon]

I will most likely base the design on mythological figures

[wanton pendant]

I think an ascended Yharim would resemble a Phoenix, if we're going the perfect Ascension route.

[reef wigeon]

I was also thinking on Garunix from Yu-Gi-Oh! It's a card based on both Garuda and the Phoenix, and i love their design

I noticed that surprisingly his palette and appearance are similar to Yharon's

[wanton pendant]

...because they're both Phoenices.
Take a look at Ho-oh.

[glacial wolf]

Ok this is M.O.R. and Calamity related

is Girus's mechs as advanced (NOT STRONGER) as Draedon's Exo mechs or are they on very different levels

[reef wigeon]

Who I wouldn't know how to do is Zeratros

[glacial wolf]

note: this isnt strength this is how technologically advanced are they

something can be more advanced but be weaker

[spare pier]

Idk how to answer that I never played MoR

[reef wigeon]

Perhaps they will look like a peacock or a butterfly

[agile matrix]

i havent played MOR in agaes

[sinful adder]

In this AU I think it makes sense for this god to make respawning canon for everyone

Or like, a kind of reincarnation

[spare pier]

Nah

I think that just undercuts the fact that Yharon swapping with Zeratros should obviously make Yharon wise

Yharon would directly oppose that idea because it'd just make so Terraria becomes stagnant. Death and change have to exist in a world

Also it'd make writing anything impossible because there'd be basically no stakes

[wanton pendant]

I've begun writing my own take.
Some of these swaps lead to very interesting possibilities.

[reef wigeon]

I think I'll make my own version too

Like what if Xeroc were truly evil at the beginning of the story

[raven brook]

laura what have you unleashed on this realm

[wanton pendant]

I don't know but I'm writing sentences that haven't been sentenced before.

[woeful karma]

can we make dancecal

like dancetale but for calamtiy

[wanton pendant]

WHAT HAVE I DONE!?

[icy veldt]

Kinda reminds me a bit of this: #lore-discussion message

[wanton pendant]

I am sorry Otonilou fans for what I've done.

[leaden bridge]

still think calamitas tyrant swap is the most interesting one u can do with ehr

[reef wigeon]

Do you use Google Docs?

[wanton pendant]

I presently am.

[pulsar ocean]

Who’s otonilou

[wanton pendant]

Imagine Jay from Ninjago was a jellyfish and a woman and also dead.

[long bloom]

imagine libber from ninjago was a jellyfish and also dead

(jay's mom)

[pulsar ocean]

So not lore relevant

[sinful adder]

The lore on the blossom flux makes it sound like Silva had plantera attack the village but then misunderstood why they made it

Though I might be misunderstanding

'...I see... So frightened by the Godseeker were my children they chose to defile death for a warden in my image.
I am sorry. I could not gaze unto your hearts. The despair I inflicted upon you... I should have forseen the consequences of taking away your guardian.
But you shan't be neglected any longer.
Heed me, floral beast, on my authority. Ravage this place no longer, stand guard of the home and memories of the people who once lived here.
Channel all the might of this canopy and of the dead within you, so that no Godseeker, lowly or high, will ever trespass into this settlement.
Defend it till the last rays of the sun, so my hero shall yet have a home.'

[plucky juniper]

Plantera's yharim whisper got rewritten too

That floral beast hailed from a grove known as the Vernal Pass, home of Silva's champion Braelor.
Once I learned of his origins, I sought the Pass myself. Alas, it seemed the very grass I tread on kept me from finding it.
I gave up my pursuit, but the hubris of the Pass's citizens was ultimately their own downfall.
So intimidated were they by my search that they fashioned themselves an appalling guardian.
Shackling the souls of once free creatures could only have one result. The revolt of this floral beast was well justified.
Now that you have slain it, even greater disorderly spirits have taken root in the lands.
The village's shortsightedness was shameful in its own right, but the consequences of this may be worse still.

my guess is that plantera existed as a replacement for Braelor, since he was probably called away by Silva

and since that turned out poorly, silva felt guilty of doing this so she got the plantera to actually guard the vernal pass

[sinful adder]

I see

[primal bluff]

what if calclone got reworked to be calamitas in a weaker state or holding back or whatever and the current scal fight would be a rematch

it would bring her a lot closer to brim in progression to where that boss is still fresh in people’s minds, and we’d have more time with her as a instead of having her being all the way at endgame

[magic epoch]

that would not work at all with lore in any way

[primal bluff]

lol

how though?

i haven’t read the doc

[magic epoch]

why or how would she be weakened for that fight

[primal bluff]

i brought up weakened as an example, but i meant to have her be introduced earlier

[magic epoch]

calclone is a clone of calamitas that attempted to duplicate her power, but it didn't fully work because calamitas' power is largely not her own and mostly gained through brimstone elemental

[primal bluff]

yeah

[magic epoch]

bit more after that but still

[primal bluff]

it just seems like a weird one-off thing to have her be cloned like that

[magic epoch]

it makes sense

[primal bluff]

i mean, it always has when i’ve played

[magic epoch]

draedon wanted to replicate her power because she's strong as fuck

[primal bluff]

true

why did the devs change birb to not be a clone? i’m not being rhetorical when i ask that, i’m just curious

[young socket]

didnt need two clone characters

[magic epoch]

i think the new lore surrounding dragons also worked well for it

[primal bluff]

i think it was a little weird and convoluted, but i’m just a guy

[primal bluff]

makes sense

[plucky juniper]

honestly the existence of a clone for calamitas supplements the existence of another clone character

mind you, i don't really care anymore if birb isnt a clone or not

but if it remained a clone, i dont think it would greatly affect the setting that much

ACTUALLY

Calclone riding a dragonfolly

[thick slate]

can i take calamitas supplements

[timid girder]

Do u guy think what boss next nameless avatar of emptiness full form or something?

[real glen]

those arent canon

[scenic olive]

brim energy

[pulsar ocean]

Next boss is yharim in like 10 years and then if devs feel like it noxus and xeroc

[primal bluff]

no shit sherlock

[pulsar ocean]

why so negative

[primal bluff]

why so serious (beatboxes)

[worldly spindle]

Had this channel muted ever since Brainstorm’s release cuz I didn’t wanna get spoiled on all the new ✨lore✨

but DAMN

I didn’t expect to stumble across some in the very first bestiary entry

Fuckin GUIDE LORE??? That rocks

[long bloom]

wait until you read the bladecrest line tooltips

[worldly spindle]

Oh boy

[pulsar ocean]

Does bringer of order have lore

[jaunty wraith]

I think all vanilla npcs are planned to get lore at somepoint

For now the guide and dryads are the only one with a bestiary entry

[wanton pendant]

If I recall, I heard that Dragonfolly not being a clone was due to it making Draedon look incompetent.

[warm gull]

good morning

[pulsar ocean]

Bad morning

[raven brook]

Not necessarily

The vanilla npcs are meant to be largely unimportant characters, they're mostly just regular people that exist to sell you stuff

The guide and the dryad get some additional lore to tie them better into calamity given their supernatural nature

liek

merchant lore

hes a guy that likes money nad sells stuff

nurse lore

shes a nurse that hates her fucking job

arms dealer lore

hes running away from the fbi after multiple accounts of illegal trafficking

the vanilla "lore" for alot of npcs fit perfectly fine as is, adding lore onto them isn't really a necessity as much as it's just.. "hey, what if this one npc was connecred to this one thing? wouldnt that be cool?"

[pulsar ocean]

Tax collector lore

[wanton pendant]

He's from Catalonia I guess.

[jaunty wraith]

Lore doesnt need to be directly tied to yharim and the big narrative

It can still have small little tibets that ad worldbuilding

[scenic olive]

terrarian lore

my terrarian has asthma

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc was a tibetan monk

[thick bluff]

I wonder what Yharim think about Torch God?

[sacred pilot]

Is Torch God even canon?

[reef wigeon]

Drawing of Xeroc (maybe will be the design of Swap Xeroc)

Main difference: armor and now he has hair

[split mortar]

If torch god is a god then kill it
If not then idk it there

[split mortar]

Yes and its bestiary entry got changed to remove it explicitly being a god

[sacred pilot]

Huh.

[split mortar]

Its bestiary entry was shown a while back and if that got in bs then its not explicitly a god
Could still be one but its up to YOU (🫵) iirc

Wha

[jaunty wraith]

I posted a question but I put it in the wrong channel, it was meant to go in update talk

[split mortar]

Oki

[thick bluff]

I wonder if Ocram was part of Calamity's lore, then it could have some connection to the plague and Draedon? Like, this thing drops the plague soul.

And it looks like a plague mutant.

[split mortar]

Not really, the plague is mechanical and ocram doesnt look mechanical

It looks fucked up yeah but not the specific draedon nano plague type of fucked up

[thick bluff]

And it looks like some kind of creature between Crimson and Corruption.

[split mortar]

itd prob be a god essence creature like eoc perfs hivemind boc and eow then

[thick bluff]

True

[thick bluff]

Ok. Then I don’t know what the soul of the plague from this thing can be connected with.

[split mortar]

Blight soul could just be a super god essence infected soul simple
Light and night souls already show god essence can influence souls

[wanton pendant]

It's Blight, all the Terraria souls end in -ight.

Clearly, Ocram hates potatoes.

[thick bluff]

Ok

[green prairie]

iirc an unofficial lore addon with Consolaria compatibility rationalizes him as being of Azafurian descent or generally from hell which is what i subscribe to

[split mortar]

Wha

[green prairie]

(i dont think azafurians look like. that but i do believe him at least being related to demons. it would explain the scythes)

[raven brook]

That dosen't make much sense unless he's like

a horrible mutated abomination of an azafurian or it's like

a magical construct for a body

or something

Tying him to demons would probably make more sense yea

[green prairie]

maybe thats why the brain is there? someone needed somewhere to put their brain after death

[raven brook]

big ass brain

[green prairie]

idk ocram is just a silly little abomination

[raven brook]

i think he could be justified as an attempt of the demons to replicate something like WoF

given they worship it

bcuz whatever ocram is he absolutely isnt a natural being yeah

hes an Abomination

[raven brook]

explains why it drops souls much like evil biome/hallow enemies too

plus the demon scythes

[split mortar]

But thrn what is the blight soul

[raven brook]

just another type of soul caused by divine essence

Just like all the others

well except the mech souls but yk

exception

[green prairie]

maybe they were trying to do the type of stuff Draedon was doing? soul-powered mechanisms and all

[raven brook]

rather than being explicitly used as a tool to contain essence ocram is designed as a ritualistic worship figure and also as a war machine

[raven brook]

ehhh

they dont have any ties to draedon

tying it to WoF makes much more sense imo like the connection is right there

(plus more draedon stuff is.... uneeded

[raven brook]

You could even say the name Ocram comes from the demons language and means God or Lord or something

[green prairie]

i think my brain instinctively tries to connect ocram and mechs because of 12 years of muscle memory associating him with that one yrimir video

[real glen]

Imagine removed vanilla bosses still existed in morden version
hell to write

[green prairie]

actually i like that a lot. ocram was named after a programmer after all, thats kinda like a godly figure (if you're into breaking the 4th wall ig)

[green prairie]

there aren't many? outside of Ocram and the other 3DS stragglers

[raven brook]

Ehhh not really

[split mortar]

Draedon does all science no exception

[raven brook]

Well,

i suppose you could say so far he has specialized in machinery and engineering

but i feel like thats more of a byproduct of

1. Being a part of the Yharmy
2. The fact we don't see much of the stuff he does outside of the fuckass robots we figh

He's just a general science guy yeah

I'm sure towards the world at large he has studied/progressed research on like

alot

ingame you can see him show a interest in zoology, evolutionary science and social sciences for one

[thick bluff]

Ok

[raven brook]

Like the entire reason he wants to see you kill yharim is not out of any moral reasons due to yharim being evil as shoit or anything

he simply wants to study the effect this will have on society at large

that's literally social sciences

he's not just the robot that makes big robots, hes the robot that kinda just studies any form of science he is interested in at a given moment

making big robots is just one of the many things he does

[thick bluff]

Lepus - just weird big rabbit. Turkey boss - idk

[raven brook]

i ain't making lore for those bruh 😭 😭

turkor is actually satan

straight up

[gentle osprey]

Do we have any lore details about the abyss?

[raven brook]

thats his lore

biblical satan

[green prairie]

no one should ever rationalize those two

[raven brook]

It's a really deep sea trench Not much more it in of itself

The only notble part of lore i can sway is

[split mortar]

Turkor: HEYY SHADOW ITS ME

[raven brook]

Silva (The Goddess of Life)'s remains were dumped in the abyss

which is why there's planty mush growing everywhere and why the fauna can grow to unnaturally big sizes

[split mortar]

She likes taking abyss baths

[gentle osprey]

you know the terminus was hidden in there, so there is probably something going on down there (in the path)

[raven brook]

yeah xeroc threw the terminus i nthe abyss so no one else could use it

[split mortar]

Well yeah who is gonna go in the super deep sea trench where the top layer is acidic and then the bottom layers have animals that could eat the average auric dragon

[gentle osprey]

especially the primal wyrm thing

[raven brook]

he says as much in his dialogue

[split mortar]

That the first eidolon wyrm and is blessed by silva it protects the terminus from xeroc iirc

[gentle osprey]

hmmm Now I got two lore behind that

[real glen]

Ocram: you can make lore something like EoC
Lepus: big rabbit after affected by something
Turkor the Ungrateful: uh, uh. I absolutely have no idea about this roasted multi head turkey

[raven brook]

snail reaction i already MADE ocram lore

smh

[green prairie]

the chefs of Terraria wanted to reach new heights. they should've been happy where they were. there you go thats turkor's backstory

[raven brook]

lepus and turkor are more binding of isaac bosses than terraria bosses im ngl

;sob

[split mortar]

Turkor is biblical satan this was already established

[thick bluff]

Fr

[raven brook]

yeah turkor is just the devil straight up

[gentle osprey]

so the Terminus is already been there, and the primordia wyrm is protecting it from xeroc, or like the first one someone stated that xeroc threw it to the abyss?

[raven brook]

strongest character in the entire lore btw

[raven brook]

both

xeroc threw it there

the wyrm protectsi t

[split mortar]

Lepus is uhh

The child of the divine swine

[gentle osprey]

and How did xeroc obtain it from the first place? or he never did?

[raven brook]

He threw it down there so he obtained it at some point yes

[thick bluff]

Not strongest, but evilest

[raven brook]

You generally need to be able to obtain something to be able to throw it somewhere

[young socket]

we dont know the origin of the terminus

[split mortar]

Terminus is needed for perfect ascension so yes xeroc had it since they perfect ascended

Same with silva

[young socket]

for all we know the terminus couldve been a well known artefact in the aerie

could also be made by someone

[gentle osprey]

ahh that clear thing up for me now

[proper fog]

they got jumped by the opps

[young socket]

just cuz xeroc threw it in the abyss doesnt mean it came from there

[gentle osprey]

I thought the abyss just existed there and doesn't have any history at all

[raven brook]

Shakidou got jumped 💔

I mean

the abyss itself yes

it's a natural thing

but stuff happens on it

[raven brook]

Pretty impressive how they needed both yharim and yharon to win them and even then it wasn't exdactly a uneven fight

[proper fog]

agnus is ravager right

[raven brook]

Which i mean

checks out for the 2nd strongest god we know of

[gentle osprey]

yeah that a valid point

[raven brook]

yeah, was

agnus my beloved

[split mortar]

Ravager is agnus revived zombie corps

[gentle osprey]

I still don

I still don't agree with them changed the mechanic from being the one that make the trio mech bosses to Draedon was the one that made them

[proper fog]

cthulhu doesnt exist in calamity tho so

[raven brook]

I mean

literally none of vanilla lore is canon

to calamity

[proper fog]

mechanic's just a random girl lmao

[gentle osprey]

they should rewritten the story by mixing the vanilla lore instead

[split mortar]

No

[raven brook]

No

[split mortar]

Thats not what they are trying to do

[proper fog]

no lol calamity lore is so much better than vnailla

[raven brook]

Vanilla lore is effectively nonlore

It was not made with the intent of being narratively interesting or anything

[gentle osprey]

imagine the possibility of the multiverse

[raven brook]

it was made purely as fan service

the what

[split mortar]

And they are not obligated to do it

[raven brook]

🥹

[real glen]

making mech cthulhu

[split mortar]

Why would a multiverse be needed to exist

[young socket]

sigh... lore pages...

[gentle osprey]

if yall like the multiverse idea like me you guys would have understand my point here

[raven brook]

Terraria is not a game that was ever really meant to have a story or narrative, "lore" was added as a side thing because fans wanted it

[split mortar]

Oh right those

[raven brook]

good thing we dont

[mighty zenith]

what multiverse 😭

[dusk laurel]

theres a multiverse??

[raven brook]

dude im being so mean and rude and evil

[split mortar]

Terraria lore pages mention a multiverse

[gentle osprey]

imagine the alt universe

[raven brook]

does it

lmao

[mighty zenith]

wait really

[raven brook]

i didnt even remember that

[mighty zenith]

yeah neither do i

[split mortar]

I think? That or just other planets idr

[raven brook]

forcibly inserting a multiverse in a story that dosent need it at all is sloppy storytelling

calamity dosent need one in the slightest

[gentle osprey]

like our main protagonist existed in every universe but facing different cosmology

[mighty zenith]

the lore pages are like 90% about the evil biomes

and some other stuff gets like a sentence or two

[raven brook]

it will not contribute to the story in any meaningful way and just make it worse by taking away narrative weight

[split mortar]

Calamity does not want to define the terrarian

[raven brook]

if you want a multiverse in a story, watch invincible or the spiderverse movies

[dusk laurel]

whenever the concept of another universe gets introduced i just assume its slop unless theres actual meaning behind it thats interesting

[real glen]

dont star at astrageldon
rude and not canon

[mighty zenith]

i guarantee that was added because red thought it would be cool and didnt think past it at all

[raven brook]

yes

it definitely was

again

terraria lore is nonlore

its not a proper story that had muc hthought put into it

its fan service

[gentle osprey]

come on, I grew up reading a comic book that is why

[young socket]

this is why limbus company is cool™️

[raven brook]

true!

[dusk laurel]

yea!!!!!!

[raven brook]

limbus company kinda has a multiversal thing going on but, not really, kinda, its complicated

[real glen]

So true

[mighty zenith]

i will play lobcorp never

which is sometime in the future

[raven brook]

ok garbo question

do you know about any of the abnormalities

cuz if u dont

[gentle osprey]

can you hear me out though...at least

[raven brook]

i wanna make sure u dont get spoiled

[mighty zenith]

i know like

[young socket]

play lobcorp and ruina and read distortion detective and leviaten or however it was spelt

[mighty zenith]

absolutely nothing about lobcorp

[dusk laurel]

leviathan

[raven brook]

ok good

[mighty zenith]

i know its kind of like scp

and theres like a white haired woman

[raven brook]

theres some

very funny abnormalities

that i dont want you to discover anything about

[raven brook]

bobot

[proper fog]

can armless and legless statis beat up duke fishron

[raven brook]

shes bobot

[mighty zenith]

WHAT

i must play this game.

[young socket]

no hes potential man

[dusk laurel]

garbo theres so many clankers

you gotta play

[mighty zenith]

you shouldve started with that

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/lobotomy-corporation-angela-пексик-youtube-bongo-gif-638242260372575576

[real glen]

im crying

[split mortar]

Isnt statis did stuff with dungeon
Thus has an actual feat

[mighty zenith]

loamf

[raven brook]

Yeah

[raven brook]

Brainstorm had the statis upscale

[young socket]

oh sad he has one feat now

[raven brook]

He went on the dungeon and fucking killed yharims guards

[raven brook]

They couldn't even see who was killing them

Ok no spamming

[proper fog]

ok

[split mortar]

I keep on thinking your pfp is steven universe i dont know why

[raven brook]

Statis upscale

whose

[split mortar]

Falena

[dusk laurel]

wowzer

[raven brook]

i can kinda see it

[young socket]

its a moff

tupid

[split mortar]

I know but when im not paying much attention to it it just registers as steven universe

[raven brook]

i can see why it might look like it from a far glance

vanillins pfp registers as sayaka miki

to me

but its not

[young socket]

chee ur just as tupid

[dusk laurel]

who is sayaka miki...

[pulsar ocean]

can old duke beat xeroc limbless deaf blindfolded sick

[raven brook]

madoker

[dusk laurel]

oe

[dusk laurel]

i genuinely cant read this

[pulsar ocean]

Punctuation is for losers

[proper fog]

so silva gets dunked into the abyss TWICE

[gentle osprey]

I never check the lore from the wiki page though, were it acceptable or not?

[split mortar]

Yea

[gentle osprey]

considered the lore from the wiki page is canon or not?

[split mortar]

The docs are prob better then the wiki page

[split mortar]

Why wouldnt it be 😭
it just covers in game stuff which a doc does here thoroughly

[gentle osprey]

I heard many peoples said the the lore from the wiki is complicated to follow up the time line

[pulsar ocean]

Is silva still immortal outside terraria

[dusk laurel]

only thing i have against the lore page of the wiki is that it calls the whispers the lore items which yk

[split mortar]

I dont see why she wouldnt be, she would prob just manifest back on terraria if she did get completely obliterated or smth

[pulsar ocean]

What if silva was betrayed and thrown in a hyperbolic time chamber for 10000 years

[gentle osprey]

like which event is happened first, and follow up later with what next and what come first, and does that related to the main events or not

[split mortar]

Good thing i can confirm atleast one document has a timeline

[pulsar ocean]

Could you say it was maybe their 33rd expedition

[wanton pendant]

At least.
The writers don't want you to know this, but it happens to her biweekly.
The Abyss has a framed photo of her with 'Number 1. Customer' on it.

[proper fog]

"man azafure is such a peaceful place"

silva in the bottom of the abyss

1500 years later

"man its so wonderful how the abyss has so much life on it"

silva, now as a goddes, in the bottom of the abyss (again)

[pulsar ocean]

Why has yharim never tried recruiting jared

[gentle osprey]

go on I'm all ears, because as far as I know is that we (The Terrarian) was the destine one who we plays was just trying to clear things up that left behind from what Yharim had caused

[proper fog]

silva energy

[wanton pendant]

Actually....
Get the image, British they.

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message
this the document with a timeline in it
Also the terrarian follows this image

[pulsar ocean]

Are you referring to yourself

[split mortar]

Waterwraith is not they them so no

[pulsar ocean]

Right mb

[wanton pendant]

Of course not.

[gentle osprey]

I'm sure it not up to us

[wanton pendant]

It quite literally is.

[split mortar]

It is

[wanton pendant]

It's like Skyrim.

Beyond being the Dragonborn, your motive and backstory is up to you.

[split mortar]

The terrarian is left blank for us to put headcanons and OCs there

[pulsar ocean]

What if I don’t wanna be the dragonborn

[gentle osprey]

yeah maybe because the calamity's lore is ended right at we (terraian) show up to clear thing that left behind

[wanton pendant]

The world ends. Get to work.

[gentle osprey]

Yharim as a British?!!!

[split mortar]

Im british

[pulsar ocean]

Are we playing as a draconic offshoot calamity mod in skyrim

[wanton pendant]

I'm so sorry.

[split mortar]

No you are playing as gloomborf

[gentle osprey]

yeah I can imagine Yharim colonialism the world

[wanton pendant]

They don't want you to know this, but he's Brazilian and can double jump.

[gentle osprey]

nah he have a flying carpet

[raven brook]

no it literally is

terraria is a sandbox where you can do whatever the fuck you want

Trying to insert a character onto that would be a bit counterintuitive

thus the terrarian can be whatever the fuck you want them to be

they are effectively not a character, they are a template

[split mortar]

Hence the image

[gentle osprey]

you don't get it

[split mortar]

???

The devs have said this thenselves

[wanton pendant]

Years of academy training, wasted.

[gentle osprey]

a character have purpose

[wanton pendant]

Your purpose is KILL YHARIM.

[split mortar]

Yeah and the terrarians purpose is up to you

[wanton pendant]

Past that you can do whatever the hell you want.

[gentle osprey]

I know The Terrarian is whatever you want him to be depend on us

Don't you understand one thing is that the character have his own purpose?

like what we been do is us doing, but the Terrarian himself should have his own purpose, except that we don't do what he did

[thick bluff]

Deerclops and Old One's Army lore in Calamity?

[thick bluff]

Original Terraria lore is free for interpretation. Calamity's one - no

[wanton pendant]

Hallucination.

[gentle osprey]

like we play as a character dies a lot, but when in actual plot the character is unstoppable

[wanton pendant]

They don't exist.

[wanton pendant]

So?

[raven brook]

Yes you make that purpose

what is your terrarian's goal? What is their backstory?

idk man

make it up

it's up to you

[gentle osprey]

this is how the protagonist in the video game were

[raven brook]

Crossover content dosen't have lore

[wanton pendant]

???

[raven brook]

It is a personal choice of the developers to not consider content explifitly from other media canon as it does not fit their vision for the story

[gentle osprey]

example You play god of war, you at least die a few time, but in actual story was Kratos ever been kill by a low life mob?

[raven brook]

dude

that's called It's a Video Game

[gentle osprey]

exactly my point

[thick bluff]

It's a game convention. The same applies to NPCs: they can be replaced after death and have different names, but they are still the same characters.

[raven brook]

you're incomprehensible

[wanton pendant]

I mean, he nearly did.

[raven brook]

What point are you trying to make

This has nothing to do with the terrarian's "lore" whatsoever

[manic coral]

Yeah I genuinely can't understand what your point is either

[gentle osprey]

don't try to change the subject, because my pointing out

[thick bluff]

Ok

[raven brook]

I assume english isn't your first language which already dosen't make it very easy to understand what you mean which like that part isn't really your fault but i genuinely cant understand how this correlates to anything we've been talking about

[split mortar]

Ok its not just me

[raven brook]

The terrarian dosen't have predefined lore, this isn't a "gameplay" thing

The writers explicitly have stated multiple times that the terrarian is a blank slate and their lore is whatever you want it to be

There is no set backstory or goals or personality

You make it up

[gentle osprey]

it because The Terraria wasn't have his own story doesn't mean everything is up to us

[raven brook]

Yeah except it does

That's not a gameplay thing

it has nothing to do with gameplay whatsoever

respawning is a gameplay thing

It's there because generally you don't want to lose all progress on your game after dying once unless the game is intentionally designed around that mechanic ex: Hardmode Minecraft, Don't Starve

It has nothing to do with narrative

[gentle osprey]

I don't say anything relate to the narrative

[manic coral]

When it's involving your character, it's all up to you. It is your character that you make, after all. Respawning is the only real exception.

[raven brook]

You... literally are

[gentle osprey]

look I know I haven't explain it well but can you at least hear me out first?

[raven brook]

You are talking about the Terrarian's Lore

[raven brook]

"Hear you out"

[gentle osprey]

no I don't

[raven brook]

Brother

We are all Trying To

[manic coral]

In my opinion, it wouldn't feel right if you had a pre-determined background in a game like this.

[raven brook]

We are not stopping you from speaking

the problem is that what youre speaking is incomprehensible

[thick bluff]

Take Tailor, for example. He can die a hundred times and be replaced a hundred times by copies of the Tailor. But that doesn't change the fact that all these guys are the same old man, the one you once helped by destroying Skeletron.

[wanton pendant]

I'd say the exception to Terrarian being up to you is that they can't explicitly contradict the narrative.

[wanton pendant]

You mean Clothier.

[gentle osprey]

if you do you would get it right, but I'm not even asking about the Terrarian lore at all

[thick bluff]

Yes

[raven brook]

Tailor is a different word for Clothier so i assume its just a diff language moment

like me calling a blender a liquidifier a while back

lol

[manic coral]

Then what are you asking about?

[wanton pendant]

I assume you're using a translator.

[wanton pendant]

To my memory those are slightly different things.

[gentle osprey]

I'm saying is that the character should at least have his own personality and purpose, not just depend on us playing as a protagonist

[wanton pendant]

They do.

You determine it.

[gentle osprey]

see

[wanton pendant]

Like, you know, how many games have it.

Like Skyrim.

Ever play Skyrim?

[gentle osprey]

dude you still don't get it

idk is I am suck at putting up words or

why is no one understanding my point?

[raven brook]

I'm sorry but respectfully

You're communicating your point horribly

It's extremely hard to understand yes

[gentle osprey]

yeah I kinda agree with that

[wanton pendant]

Being honest, half your sentences aren't comprehensible.

[manic coral]

From what you just said to me, you think the story of the character you play as should have a pre-determined background.

Am I correct?

[gentle osprey]

yeah

because the progression in terraria was in order after all

[raven brook]

A large point of Calamity's story is to have you as the player come up with your own conclusion on things

Not to be guided by anyone else's hand

Having your player have a predetermined goal and backstory would not only go against that,

But also inherently go against the sandbox aspect of terraria aswell

[gentle osprey]

first of all this is a modded story

[manic coral]

Yeah, that's the main reason why they do not

[split mortar]

-# except you can skip 90% of bosses

[gentle osprey]

it has nothing to do with the vanilla

[raven brook]

It is not about it being vanilla or modded

Regardless

it is still a sandbox game

[split mortar]

Still a sandbox setting the mod does not change that

[raven brook]

Arguably Calamity makes the progression more nonlinear if anything

[gleaming swallow]

" What's my purpose? "
" BIG WEAPONS 😋😋😋"

[gentle osprey]

but the modded have lore so you can't just ignore that

[raven brook]

Yes?

[split mortar]

What is that point????

[raven brook]

Sandboxes can have lore.

[gentle osprey]

then the character must have purpose too

[raven brook]

No, not really

[split mortar]

No

Since the terrarian doesnt

[gentle osprey]

stop saying it "depend on us"

[raven brook]

Do you want to know how many different games that have stories don't have their characters have a predefined goal

[raven brook]

Yes because that is

literally how the story is written

That is the Canonical Explanation

[thick bluff]

Yes

[raven brook]

Ask literally any of the writers

[split mortar]

We are just saying whats the case we cant rewrite the mod to have the terrarian not be up to us

[manic coral]

There are plenty of sandbox games filled with lore and story that have your character not have a pre-determined background

[split mortar]

It is irrefutably up to us what the terrarian is like

[gentle osprey]

because they already prepare different ending for each choice we make duh

[raven brook]

No

No they don't

Not every games does

[gentle osprey]

then a role play game is different story

[raven brook]

Cei

you have a patience i do not have

[gentle osprey]

because they don't have lore

[raven brook]

I really am trying my best to keep my composure here

I really am

[split mortar]

Did you miss the first half of her message

[gentle osprey]

no I saw that, don't worry

[split mortar]

there are plenty of sandbox games filled with lore

[raven brook]

If you saw that clearly it did not register in your brain in the slightest

You don't seem to know how storytelling works and how there are thousands of different ways one can write a story

[thick bluff]

I'd say the original Terraria has almost no lore of its own, unless you count the non-canonical official lore that was made for fun.
But Calamity has proper lore.

[raven brook]

Calamity has lore

[gentle osprey]

can you?

[raven brook]

The terrarian dosen't

[raven brook]

Yeah actually

I'm a writer

[wanton pendant]

Ah, the cult propaganda.

[manic coral]

But they do. Again, take a game like Skyrim as an example. Your character has absolutely no pre-set background aside from being arrested somehow. Yet it's filled with plenty of lore and story, and even though it only has one ending, there's a lot of lore and story related stuff to explore.

[raven brook]

Skyrim protagonist lore

[gentle osprey]

then why you not putting the purpose on the Terrarian?

[raven brook]

Ah, you're finally awake.

[languid otter]

I am not a very good writer but I know damn well my terraria character would have their own lore

[split mortar]

Not a writer for calamity

[raven brook]

1. I did not say calamity writer
2. Because it'd literally make the story worse

[wanton pendant]

Tried to cross the border, like me, and that thief over there.

[raven brook]

That's why the writers haven't done it

Because it does not fit their vision for the story

And it is not needed

Sorry everyone

The terrarian now is the chosen hero of legend that exists to vanquish evil

Truly a incredible characterization

makes the story far better

😌

[split mortar]

Skips providence

[raven brook]

Uhhh uhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhh

well they uhhhhhh

they had a cold.

couldnt fight at the time. sorgy

[eager bluff]

not canon you kill everything

[obsidian plume]

providence ran away!

[eager bluff]

graaaah

[manic coral]

Ultimately, whoever you are and whatever you decide is "in-character" for you is left up to your decision to make as you play the game.

[wanton pendant]

Of course, Providence totally isn't evil, trust.

[raven brook]

The Dark Souls games all sorta lean onto this too (I'd say notably Dark Souls 2 is a fairly big exception)

Besides a vague template the protagonists don't really have

much of a characterization

[manic coral]

Yeah, Dark Souls games are like this as well

[raven brook]

just go out there and kill things man idk

[dusk laurel]

[raven brook]

Dark Souls 2 like always is the exception because you have a much more defined motive and backstory

Neither of which is a worse or better approach btw! It depends on the story you want to write!

Having a defined backstory for a protagonist is not inherently better or worse

Different stories are told differently

[gentle osprey]

idk how to put this up, but this case is different, since the character has something to explore that mean everything in the game was already prep for us, the rest is up to us to discover

[raven brook]

Calamity's story is told without a protagonist with a predfined backstory

[gentle osprey]

but in this case is different

[obsidian plume]

why do u want a predefined story instead of creating one for ur own character? Just out of curiosity

[manic coral]

How so?

[raven brook]

Calamity's story is largely about exploring the world and discovering about its past

So like, how is that different :p

If anything what you described fits calamity's narrative perfectly

There is a world out there with its own lore and story already, and the story comes frou you exploring and discovering about it

Not about your personal goals or backstory

[gentle osprey]

because it easy for the calamity's lore and story written to put this up of how the world in the game would have end

[manic coral]

Exactly. I don't see how it's any different from what you described. Sure, it may not be in as complete of a state, but that makes little difference in my opinion.

[raven brook]

world i nthe game would have the end

It

dosen't have to do

In fact it won't

[gentle osprey]

don't you have a vision of how the story in the modded would have ended?

[raven brook]

Yeah

Yharim's the final boss

you kill him

[split mortar]

You uh fight yharim and he dies

[raven brook]

That's how the story ends, not counting the "epilogue" content with Xeroc and Noxus

[gentle osprey]

hey I like the way you pointing out, but keep it short, I can't follow up there many chat I have to read

[wanton pendant]

Like Skyrim.

[obsidian plume]

endings are easily written without having ur character be pre-determined. Take undertale (even tho frisk is their own character shut up), the ending depends on what choices you make, not what a predetermined character makes

[languid otter]

fight yharim
refuse to elaborate
go home and sleep

that's one of my terraria character :3

[wanton pendant]

Hey so Frisk is-

[gentle osprey]

look I understand that

[limpid saddle]

what happened here?

oh

[manic coral]

I do. In fact, being the lead writer for calamity, I had plans for it that were to be implimented. Whether the writers now still want to follow through with that is their choice.

[wanton pendant]

We need someone bilingual.

[limpid saddle]

i see its still happening

[split mortar]

Someone thinks the terrarian shouldnt be up to you

[languid otter]

ah

[limpid saddle]

I picked up on that I just havent figured out if chat has divined a 'why' out of kotl yet

[raven brook]

Well the why seems to be that uhhh

the mod has a story so the player needs one to question mark

[split mortar]

^
I think this is the why

[raven brook]

And it'd make the ending of the story "easier" to figure out...?

Even though that's just wrong

[gentle osprey]

you know I love the game so much, imagine one day, you guys and your team make a good story about this and actually make it to the animation or movies adaptation

[languid otter]

"why uhh the character I create should be up to myself?"
something like this

[obsidian plume]

the funny thing is is that point wouldn't even matter, it gets revealed after an ending

[wanton pendant]

-actually the Dragonborn and must slay Alduin.

[gentle osprey]

I would feel so hype and happy about it

[obsidian plume]

oh i finally get it now

[gentle osprey]

this is my whole point here

[obsidian plume]

yeah ok, just look at the terraria visual novels

[raven brook]

So your point is entirely based on a borderline impossible hypothetical that even if it were to happen

[wanton pendant]

...you mean comics?

[raven brook]

You know how movie adaptations work, right?

You know they change things?

[zenith geode]

the terrarian should be predefined just in case there might be some sort of story based on calamity mod?

[raven brook]

To fit the structure of a movie?

[obsidian plume]

i got out of an english exam cut me some slack :(

[gentle osprey]

who know, maybe in a few more year you guys could pull this off

[split mortar]

Reign of yharim fangame in development:

[wanton pendant]

I'm sorry you have to learn English.

[split mortar]

Ok british person

[wanton pendant]

Throwing your tea into the harbour.

[final bison]

In a way calamitys worldbuilding is similiar to smthin like dark souls or elden ring

[raven brook]

Id say its more like silksong personally funnily enough

[obsidian plume]

like i meant to say, the terraria comics are based off of terraria, believe it or not, where ur character does not matter

[raven brook]

Cuz dark souls's world is very much doomed

[obsidian plume]

You can make a calamity character matter in a movie sure, does not mean u have to sacrifice the ingame version

[raven brook]

While Silksong's is kinda fucked up but has a glimmer of hope for the future which throughout the story you make brighter

And Calamity's more like that

[split mortar]

Commit a second crusade

[raven brook]

Heartwarming: Adapting a story into another medium is not just retelling the story 1:1 because stories do not work the same in different mediums

[obsidian plume]

yes, that, thanks

[split mortar]

Cheese commit the second crusade

[raven brook]

Can't rn

[wanton pendant]

What did Reddit do this time!?

[split mortar]

[raven brook]

I need to repair my Crusade Gun before i can

[zenith geode]

you're telling me they had to change a visual novel's story a bit to fit it in an hour and thirty minutes...?

[final bison]

If ego from project moon suddenly existed in the world of terraria

Who would manifest it?

At least in calamity lore

[raven brook]

now thats my jam

anyawys uhhh

[final bison]

I'd say braelor

[wanton pendant]

Must. Resist. DoG joke.

[raven brook]

Yharim

[zenith geode]

dragonfolly and nobody else

[raven brook]

Definitely Yharim for one

[gentle osprey]

I hope some of you guys understand my point here a bit...

[final bison]

I can see that

But I can see him distorting once we fight him

[split mortar]

I dont

[raven brook]

I can see Braelor getting ego too

[split mortar]

He still holds his beliefs

[wanton pendant]

We really can't.

[raven brook]

Yharim is literally like Ahab

[zenith geode]

they made a minecraft movie without giving steve defined lore
that's my counterargument

[split mortar]

He is not shaking in those

[final bison]

Yeah but isn't he depressed

[gentle osprey]

I mean for myself I understood, except you don't have vision for it

[raven brook]

You don't need to be happy to manifest ego

[final bison]

He probably regrets what he's done

[magic epoch]

Steve's lore is that he's jack black imo

[raven brook]

Nah not really

[split mortar]

No

[young socket]

WE NEED TO KILL THE GODS

[raven brook]

He's depressed for other reasons

[wanton pendant]

Nope.

[split mortar]

He would do the crusade again if he got sent back in time

[raven brook]

He's less so depressed because he committed genocide

and more so

[zenith geode]

yharim regrets that he sent a child to go nuke ilmeris instead of doing it himself

[raven brook]

he's depressed because he couldn't finish the genocide

[final bison]

LMAO

[raven brook]

Yeah exactly this

[split mortar]

Hes sad he didnt get to do genocide better basically

[final bison]

Well damn

Yharim really is deplorable

[zenith geode]

because the child did her job improperly (let tyrian get away)

[languid otter]

bruh

[split mortar]

He is the most set in stone in his beliefs i dont see a universe where he distorts

[raven brook]

I'm so sorry Calamitas, i shouldn't have sent you to genocide those fish people as a child.

That was truly deplorable.

[wanton pendant]

He also thinks that he MIGHT have gone too far with hiring children and evil murder worms.

[raven brook]

I should've just went there and genocided them myself.

Will you forgive me?

He then gets hit with 50 brimstone gigablasts

[dusk laurel]

3 star golden hitler

[gentle osprey]

I'm sure he busy collecting honey

[final bison]

I think he might uhh

[raven brook]

yeah no yharim is genuinely like ahab

[final bison]

Fix his mistakes

[split mortar]

Piss hitler is not a good person

[raven brook]

He's so fucking stubborn in his beliefs that i think he'd just skip the convo with carmen

go straight into ego

[split mortar]

He does not view much of what he did as mistakes im pretty sure

[final bison]

As in not dumping the corpses of God's on terraria

[mighty zenith]

"Child soldiers are terrible. They're too weak to do anything"

[raven brook]

He has 10 years left in his lifespan and what he's doing is actively training to genocide better and trying to manipulate you into following along his footsteps of genociding

[cloud ibex]

if yharim had a second attempt at the crusade he would do the exact same thing again but more efficiently and with less "innocent" casualties

[raven brook]

Also mind you

[split mortar]

That feels very intentional ngl
You telling me ateampunker was able to make clentaminator before draedon could while working under yharim?

[raven brook]

He could've put all of the evil biomes in WoF if he wanted to

And entirely fixed that problem

[gentle osprey]

do you guys ever make a fun fact about the characters in the calamity?

[raven brook]

Case in point:

He did it with the Hallow

Now

Think about that for a moment

[wanton pendant]

We got a document full of them.

[cloud ibex]

(innocent in quotations cause really he'd probably still kill any god worshippers that otherwise haven't actually done anything)

[raven brook]

A little bit of the disgusting, foul, corrupt evil biomes

Was left outside of wof

for everyone to see

Meanwhile, the hallow

[final bison]

We gotta kill yharim Holy shit

[raven brook]

which is a much more beautiful and hospitable place ,despite some hostile fauna

was enetirely sealed within wof

Now i WONDER why thats the case

It seems

[split mortar]

Theres 2 documents full of lore facts made by the community in the pins

[raven brook]

VERY

CONVENIENT

[gentle osprey]

what they up to, and what they based off?

[raven brook]

to have the evil foul horrible dead god biome

[split mortar]

The lore documents

[raven brook]

be the only one left

for the guy who wants to get everyone to think gods r inherently evil and bad

VERY. CONVENIENT

[final bison]

I remember some dumbass comment on yharims theme from yomi hustle

[wanton pendant]

But it still can't give decent stats.

[cloud ibex]

also very interesting how he doesn't comment on the hallow at all

ever

[gentle osprey]

if it necessary for me scroll down the whole pin?

[raven brook]

YEAH

HE DOSEN'T HAVE A LORE WHISPER ON THE HALLOW

AT ALL

[wanton pendant]

It's at the top man.

[obsidian plume]

Does he say anything about eol? honestly forgot

[split mortar]

Also according to dev statements like 300 MILLION PEOPLE died to the crusade by DIRECT causes and including indirect is about 50% of all people on the planet

[raven brook]

do you think devs just forgot about it?

no that shit is intentional

[cloud ibex]

like he doesn't even attempt to be like "guys this is bait don't feed the trolls"

[raven brook]

hate that guy

[cloud ibex]

he's just silent

[gentle osprey]

it not like the old was always there

[raven brook]

bum ass piss hitler

[final bison]

Where they said smthin like "maybe this could play when Xeroc awakens and yharim helps us beat Xeroc with yharon clutching us last minute!"

Like fuck offfff

[raven brook]

no bruh we killing yharim

we killing his ass

hes DYING

[languid otter]

[final bison]

He gotta go

[raven brook]

dude

[zenith geode]

happy sunshine rainbows land where the worst thing there is somewhat aggressive horses vs the biomes of festering and rotting flesh that infect things and bring them into it like a virus

[raven brook]

its so funny to me

when people say

XEROC IS THE TRUE VILLAIN!!!!@

And once again

[wanton pendant]

That's like wanting Hitler to help you defeat Jesus.

[raven brook]

xeroc crimes. killing 1 guy

for morally dubious intentions

yharim crimes

geneva convention

[split mortar]

😭

[gentle osprey]

I almost believe Yharim was a good guy btw

[languid otter]

nah Yharim has to go 😭 🥀

[cloud ibex]

oh boy

here we go

[obsidian plume]

rip chat

[final bison]

This shits diabolical

[split mortar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

[raven brook]

Xeroc's probably a guy with good intentions who's just not handling things very well

He's definitely not evil

At best he's just a flawed, but benevolent individual

At worst he's just kinda neutral

I personally believe him to be more of the former

[manic coral]

more like the geneva checklist for him

[raven brook]

[split mortar]

True

[gentle osprey]

Xeroc is on fraud watch

[split mortar]

Is literally the strongest cal character

[cloud ibex]

xeroc is too busy tending to the garden of primordial zaza left behind by zeratros

[manic coral]

He uses it see what thing he HASN'T done in whatever city he takes over yet to make sure he's done all of them to "The Bad People"™

[gentle osprey]

he probably prep time for us rn

[raven brook]

no he literally could smite us with the unmatched power of the sun if he wanted to

[thick bluff]

And mad doc robot

[split mortar]

Its not out the question the guy can just pull the sun closer to scorch the entire planet

[gentle osprey]

ngl I really love the idea of people getting god like power from taking a dragon hearth

[raven brook]

its a soul

[split mortar]

Or just drop it on terraria

[gentle osprey]

yeah "soul"

[raven brook]

yeah

its literally their soul

[wanton pendant]

I think your translator is just broken. Hearth means fireplace.

[raven brook]

idk why ther " "

[cloud ibex]

you know now that i think about it the whole concept of absorbing auric soul is kinda elden ring esque

with the whole dragon communion thing

[gentle osprey]

ohh I get it

[raven brook]

to me its dark souls esque

because

yk

absorbing the power of ancient dragons to ascend to godhood and lal that

[gentle osprey]

before I play calamity mod and know some lore behind it, you know what I think about Yharim?

[cloud ibex]

in my defense i haven't played ds1

[raven brook]

yeah the entire story revolves around gods usurping dragons and stealing their power

[gentle osprey]

I thought he was evil Terrarian in the future or in the alt timeline or some sort

[raven brook]

the gods are generally a unified faction there though

and theres alot less of them

[mighty zenith]

this is just like the movie lightyear

[cloud ibex]

guy who has only seen lightyear

[thick bluff]

I saw a review of this thing.

[gentle osprey]

I love Astrum aureus boss so much

for me it have the best theme song in the game

[cloud ibex]

garbo hates aureus

[raven brook]

astrum aureus more like uhh

astrum... aur.. uhh

astrum auric

haha

[cloud ibex]

i get the joke

[split mortar]

Asstrum aureus

[cloud ibex]

😁

[spring helm]

1233popcorn

[dusk laurel]

boaric

[split mortar]

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

[spring helm]

another day another hitler comparison

has the cannonball jellyfish lore been changed with the update

[gentle osprey]

didn't know everyone using hitler joke here

[split mortar]

Piss hitler

[gentle osprey]

where is the origin of the auric ore come from?

[wanton pendant]

Colonialism in action.

[wanton pendant]

Something to do with dragons.

[gentle osprey]

so basically dragon scale

[midnight citrus]

Tbh I'm confused with calamity lore...

I heard everything started from goozma or smt...

[wanton pendant]

?

[wanton pendant]

No such being exists.

[gentle osprey]

no I'm asking

[split mortar]

Goozma got decanonised like over half a decade ago or more iirc

[midnight citrus]

Where can you read the latest lore of calamity mod

[wanton pendant]

Pins.

[split mortar]

Pins

[midnight citrus]

They keep changing it

I'm sorry

[split mortar]

Not really

[wanton pendant]

They don't.

[split mortar]

Not since the rewrite like 3 years ago

[worldly spindle]

smt
Shin Megami Tensei??? /j

[gentle osprey]

I love Yharon in game still have the same look since 1.2

the mods like worm more than bird

[midnight citrus]

If yharim's a god slayer why hasn't he killed most of the gods still presence in calamity mod

One of them being providence

[split mortar]

95% are dead

We come across the few that survived his global genocide

Or well a few if those few

[tough sentinel]

whatever happened to Xeroc

[midnight citrus]

Is XEROC nameless deity?

[worldly spindle]

Used to be

[split mortar]

Seems to be super focused on dealing with noxus to the point of disregarding terrestrial threats

[split mortar]

No

[worldly spindle]

WotG has no bearing on Calamity’s lore

[tough sentinel]

Good question

[split mortar]

Wotg is a fan made project that used to loosely be based on old outdated plans

[midnight citrus]

It's just that when I search up xeroc on wiki it's an image of nameless deity that pops up

[split mortar]

No its not