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We did make the doc
I didn't write it.
Read the top.
I love the demon stuff I wrote for the Devil's Devastation line
Me and waterwraith helped
oh you wrote it?
Yeah
its very good
Though Ozz wrote Devil's Devastation itself
i enjoy getting more demon lore
I enjoy getting more demon lore
can i help š„ŗ im also writing a lore doc on my own world building
We're not in charge.
True!
Forbidden Oathblade has also been very fun to use.
ok but how did you get to be contributor
so....ik killing wof releases the souls of a buncha dead gods and stuff...
do the hm enemies have any relevance to this?
I just learned the swing can be activated early by just clicking M1.
Conscription.
did you ask or were you freinds with tyrant/laura for like years
I have so much autism they came to me asking for help
He just yoinked me.
huh
what are the lore implications of the rune wizard
well butter up my butt and call me a biscuit i guess i cant help š
Ive only been active here since like late 2024
connections and i also had a doc portfolio before working on the lore doc gulp
Wizard died.
wraiths are the spirits of god worshippers who were apparently also sealed in there
hes like idk a magic man
wizart
i asked but i've been around a while
lowkey
I had the portfolio of being the grabs a dev statement 5 years old on accident that i wasnt even there for how have i done that multiple times
this is rly random but i kinda love that the paladin enemy makes perfect sense
how did they find out you got the writingtism anyway
use punctuation
past convos?
in cal lore
i wonder why this PALADIN is in Yharim's Torment Nexus
I don't know man, the force or something.
My idea with the Demons was to basically show what would happen if Yharim just passed away naturally
Im very active here and im the grab dev statements from months ago no one remembers not even the devs guy
i think you might be getting at the wrong thing
Got murdered by something invisible.
Venom Snake, from Metal Gear.
theyre actually godseeker knights
i mean you use proper punctuation (frankly that scares me) so i get why you get to be contributor
oh. they have. rewritten lore ok
Mmm
Ohhhh, that's why I keep getting abducted.
I wonder who is this musterious intruder
guys i wonder who

who this
Teach me your ways waterwraith
Jokes aside
who couldve possibly raided the dungeon
You're literally from English land.
friendly reminder that dragonfolly is internally known as "Bumblefuck"
I really wonder who the calamity stealthy fast guy is with reason to do so
I bet it's Permafrost.
yharim : i killed gods and god seekers alike, who are you to challenge me. mere mortal?
solid snake: up smash
yharim: 
what are the lore implications of this
I unironically wrote that in with the express purpose of being Statis Upscale
guys who does that void sash belong to again im starting to forget
is statis your self insert or smthin
doing xeroc's work
IT'S STATIS!?!!!!??!!! NO WAY!?!
I wanted to give him a really nutty feat to really show that
Yeah
This guy fought Yharim alongside Braelor for a reason
Yeah so i speak english
I dont fuckig know the punctuation or many rules
l
Skill issue.
I need to read the rewritten Beastiary.
No he's a guy who fought Yharim
Seems very cool.
like apostrophe and comma
wait what the fuck did braelor do
and period
Also that
i'm one of like 3 people alive who know how to use semicolons
Fight Yharim.

Be Silva's champion too.
They fought Yharim together and almost killed him
2v1 Yharim and nearly won until it became 2v2.
i know
Then Shadow Realmed.
ok but braelor doesnt look like a fighting type
.
He's literally the buffest motherfucker in the entire planet
He's Fighting/Grass.
Yeah

statis is a ninja
Heres statis
remove the axe and hes kinda just a dude
that dumb fucking face lmao
Statia has knives I think.
And the power of gay, if it means anything.
Yeah.
TASTE THE RAINBOW.
kinda odd that the gay couple got shadow realmed........
trying to give characters a specific damage class 
kinda...homophobic of the writers.....
DoG is homophobic.
ok we already know that thats for sure
bury your gays am i right
why is his curse a summoner item then hm? is he stupid? /j
except theyre both alive
gods*
hes down low
Providence and the profaned guardians profaned lesbian polycule smh my head
-# this is not actually canon afaik
because he fucking hates summoner
not canon but getting strongerly implied by the minute
important
thats call a friend group
@young socket
ANCIENT gif
Like I don't think there's anything romantic going on between the four
But they are
EXCEPTIONALLY homossexual
Sky people are tomato eating snails?
Did this mean they found Calamity America, making them Calamity Vikings?
im considering impeaching you
towards who
Where's Calamity Leif Erikson.
are there any other female rocks
I'm President!?
The other profaned guardians??.
but i thought there was nothing romantic
Its still gay
You don't need romance to have romance.
what
What?
YHARIMS EMPIRE IS NAMED YHARMY???????????
What?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Unofficially
But yeah its what we use to call it
his army is nicknamed the yharmy
thats the stupidest fucking army name dude
thats like naming your army fuckin "ozzarmy"
his empire was just any of the cities and regions he just so happened to control at that time
screaming and rattling at the bars of cool dudes role every time i need to go to another server to download a gif
š„
do not disrespect the ozzarmy.
they will find you.
Their relationship is the most confusing thing ever to describe but like
theyre called the calamity ninjas
We've been talking about dumb shit for years as a result of no new lore
They're an aroace polycule
Of course we made up some stupid names
I guess that's the best way of describing it
if you get caught leaking things you get dematerialized
theyre fucking lesbians but they deny it
what tf are you talking about
She's the gayest motherfucker ever conceived
providence or some shit?
Profaned guardians
Yeah her and the guardians
jeez
The profaned guardians and providence
oh i can tell
good thing we killed her or else she would actually erase all heterosexuality
maxie vs guardian healer whos yurier
š so fucking gay
Rebecca is projecting
Aint provi optional
she must die
all the new tooltips are incredible
no dude shes a major boss like dog
eeh kinda
Wof is optional
She's gonna fuckin blow up the world she's gotta die
shes gotta go
I imagine Yharim's empire like the Holy Roman Empire but even more decentralized and also fascist.
id understand if you said polterghast cuz nobody knows that mf
i especiall love exhumed tooltips
why should I kill her
what if I join her
what then huh
Thank you!
if calamitas was older she wouldve done the maki to zenin clan move
'WHAT THE FUCK IS A METAPHOR' reference?
Incinerating skeleton grabbing bars gif
dude where the fuck are you getting this
What?
cal wiki "lore"
oh uhh
that's the wiki
maki bassically genocided the entire zenin clan
because the zenin clan was extremely mysoginist and everyone in there is suffering one way or another
Vengeance fueled me, I had no thought other than exactment. The dragon took everything from me, leaving my broken pieces strewn on the ground. But when I danced by Her side, I knew there was still something worth fighting for.
sorry if you refer to fighting alongside someone as dancing with them its already too late
mysoginist
i like that metastasis now spells it out for you
THEY'RE SO FUCKING GAY MAN
i thought they gay woman
i dont know how to spell it man get out of my ass 
I WROTE THE GAYEST FUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS OF ALL TIME
Is slimegods genderfluidness in cal
theyre the gayest couple ever but if you ask them they say "we are no homo"
yo gimme the damn wiki link
Imagine the second boss of Sonic Frontiers.
like the only one i can see being platonic admiration is defender and even then theres a VERY thin line
i genuinely forget guardians arent chicken nuggets anymore
GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY
now theyre doritos
god i cant wait for them to get cooler
is it weird i kinda prefer chicken nuggets a bit
Imagine you love someone so much that you spend 800 years by their side despite the fact that you know they'll never reciprocate?
You guys genuinely have
No idea
They're gonna get another rework?
didnt know reb was 800
Reb get better smh my head
Yeah crazy right?
whos reb again
isnt the current calamity thing "every boss will get reworked unless it's said otherwise"
Where is this one?
metastasis
metastasis
I mean yeah but I do remember some exceptions.
What the fuck is a metaphor
Uh, Brain is probably done.
Can't remember which though.
Oh haha
Providenceās real name
ah
brain being first in line no?
so brain is done
Laura has headmates
One of my headmates
ahh
That's actually Ember O'Arson.
jk rowling ass name
I looked away for a second and I thought you said āone of my headachesā
If you asked me a month ago that'd be true
are vanilla town npc dialogues planned to see additions/changes eventually?
Yes
Please God.
one day
wait are all the guardians females?
Yes
Yes
jk rowling if she wrote an ilmeran: tilapia mcelectricity
And providence
i miss my wife {terrarian}, i miss her a lot, i'll be back
Yeah Providence is Misandrist. And Misogynist. She hates everything except her girls.
first name tilapia kinda goes nuts
i think into all my terraria headcanons i always integrate "yeah the guide doesnt come back after wof lol his ass is DEAD"
Nonsensical reference leaves Lore chat scratching their heads.
honestly i saw a dialogue from merchant when i defeated moon lord that goes along the lines of
"im not sure...but i feel like the evils of this land has grown stronger."
idfk i dont remember much
i always thought this was either abt tax collector(???) or voodoo doll(?)
blunder vs mistake i think
oh my god could you imagine hes referring to wof
This one is kinda weird because he really shouldn't come back and in vanilla it's a different guide
dude i dont know about you
he got too attached to it
If I remember, it's literally an inside joke with no meaning.
I'm still replacing that line with the wife one
but bearded old men are VERY important to the lore
who dont know this
the guide is Jesus this is canon
guide gets ladies???????
Imagine you pick up a little piece of WOF after you kill it and it's like baby Groot but flesh
plus if the clothier can explode & get better i dont see why the guide cant melt & recover
dude the clothier drops one of the most reliable mage weapons called "clothiers wrath"
Town slime but it's made of flesh. Add that
HE HAS something going on
Well yeah he got cursed for robbing the dragon cult
clothier's wrath lagging my game more than dog š„ (before 2.1)
I think the part where he bursts into a giant skeleton would give that away
why is he so angry

ok what about merchant
That guy just sells shit
his dialogue after moon lord got defeated was different
English.
The Merchant just has the Vanilla precedent of babbling about the "unspeakable horrors"
mf you say that like i said something wrong
So we made a second version for Post ML
That's his lore.
Well yeah stuff did get stronger its an observation the guy made not a hard one
waterwraithgaming confirmed to be a capitalist???
i cant fucking tell because of your punctuation LMAO
wuhwuhguh
I blame the English.
self hate
the merchant going slightly more insane as the game goes on until post DoG where he's incoherent and all prices are randomized
accidentally tapped into the vanillin profile & got flashbanged by the 7 flying aces deltarune quote
You will be discombobulated.
Wha
i have a recombobulator 3000 
Is there a Lore reason mobs are spawning INDOORS!?
skyblock reference?
Left door open
one combobulator
infinite discombobulators
sadly
There are no open doors.
is there lore reason why boulder
Walls open?
bigger and
Nope.
Post ml does let you fight polter so like not a big leap
Funny.
crazy how he's just some old guy who wandered into the evil ass murder dungeon & got cursed to guard it because he pissed off the lunatic cultist
rainbow bolder
what a guy
yk if sukuna from jjk existed in the world of terraria
what stage of the game would he be at
i like this guide quote cuz like. sorry man we can't go yet
at least in calamity
evil ass murder building
im not fucking going there bro
probably yharim
shit hes THAT powerful huh
sukuna weak
Uh
Iirc deus outscales most of jjk so prob not far into post ml but that is using old as shit probably unreliable now powerscaling from someone not active anymore
deus???
the highest calamity goes is continental right
i mean
Fallen stars are stars in calamity fyi
no stars are small in calamity
we got fuckin space mofos in calamity
Xeroc specifically
yeah calm down
lanturn from pokemon solos any universe with his anglerfish light that vaporizes the planet
powerscaling gggughhhh
shit dont get too crazy
We have no confirmation on if a irl hydrogen star even exists not even the cal sun is one
so sukuna could probably beat the fuck out of a god
Yeah but lose to higher end ones maybe
yeah gods are reslly not a good scale of power
Slimegod is prehardmode afterall
and xeroc is xeroc
how far does slugcat make it
just being a god doesn't mean you're uber-powerful
Does that fucker even get post green slime
zombie fodder, sadly
I mean, compared to the average person...
can any pokemon realistically solo the calamity verse, besides arceus cause thats just (an avatar of) god
Mewtwo.
so many
Yeah every single Legendary pretty much
but yeah I think Sukuna in progressively more difficult fights takes out Calamity
So fucking many
wtf does cal do against groudon
ash's pikachu (plot armor)
What's Phione gonna do?
xeroc could smite it instantaneously
I'm sure she has Hydro Pump in her TM pool.
its like a stat boost
My brother in Christ
you gave a stat boost to a slime bassically
The first noticeable challenge for him is probably Calamitas Clone just due to the Brimstone
Groundon is planetary
I dont think xeroc does shit to the guy making continents
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where does regigigas reach or is he just deadweight cause he's too slow
he is skin & bone after all, but feasibly he can just dodge
Moves continents
and you capture it in a ball and make it fight for your amusement
u might be able to take out regigigas if hes sleepy
clearly the pokemon trainer outscales everything
goku could probably fuckin insta transmission towards dragon aerie and say" IVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR CRUSADE. WERE ENDING THIS RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW!" and fucking spirit bombs him
They are like the Chaos Emeralds
Even if you have the 7, you'll still having a stat boost
Goku is beyond infinite in power
slow start might b enough for like. dog to deal with regigigas
Chaos Emeralds grant infinite power.
Energy, just to clarify
yeah why does everyone dream of a fight of goku with popular characters when its like the entire point he doesnt have a limit to his power there's always stronger guys
Super Sonic is invincible.
Uhhh is this a joke or something?
Devourer "Fear me, for i am the devourer of gods, the supremem wyrm of the distortion! Nobody can beat me!"
mfw giratina walks in
you have failed your sonic lore remember unleashed
lets see who's the real supreme wyrm of the distortion
Giratina is literally Noxus^2 bro
have you ever seen him die? 
He's cooked
giratina might clown on noxus
its joever
No, but for example, in his fight against The End, he loses the transformation
dawg did we not get legends arceus in your timeline
I think you guys forget that the Creation Trio literally hold domain over their concepts on a universal scale

how does peak fovos fare
And The End isn't even planetary
Doesn't take damage in the form.
"erm but giratina isnt completely evil its not satan!"
The End destroys stars and planets.
no thats dumb
thats stupid
giratina is still obviously meant to be the satan equivalent
Isnt there multiple poke universes
Do they hold dominion over every universes aspects of those or just the one
Uhhhh, that only in its prime
It wasn't in Sonic Prime.
Exactly why Giratina is PokƩmon Satan
was cast down
there are presumaably different legendaries for each universe
because it was too violent
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giratina is literally satan yeah
im sorry its annoying as fuck when people say "nooo giratina isnt satan its uhh hhades"
no it fucking isnt
wouldn't hades be like
yveltal i think it's spelled
Who the hell says that?
i didnt say that
Closer to Thanatos.
ive seen people say it contsantly
How do you see Giratina and think Hades bruh
Oh, I see, this is ragebait that my dumb mind couldn't detect as such
And even then.
(i think)
((lol))
how many times has giratina appeared and acted literally evil that isnt with volo
Giratina vs goku
not necessarily hades (though ive seen it too)
0
but just the general sentiment that "giratina isnt satan becasue its not evil"
lend me strength noxus....this is level 45 drampa we're up against
ok that dosent matter
SATAN ALSO ISN'T EVIL
Super Sonic fighting something that destroys universes.
giratina is the most obvious satan pokemon ever its directly inspired of its story
angel cast down into hell by god because god didnt like its actions
LUCIFER'S STORY IS HOW HUBRIS WILL CRUMBLE ANYONE
thats literally what giratina is
THAT'S WHAT GIRATINA WENT THROUGH
See, they's morally complex
It's explicitly stated that it had a change of heart afterwards.
And that's the earliest game in the timeline.
I mean yeah kind of

Well ok
Not morally complex
But Lucifer is a character with depth
Is that even canon?
Whatever bro I'm not gonna talk about Bible characterization
you'd probably be pissed off too if you got banished to your own dimension with no one except yourself there and travelling to the normal world reshapes you
LMAOOO
eye of cthulhu vs 10 waddle doos
IM HERE TO CONVINCE YOU TO DO SIN
Misunderstood Being who did not follow the laws of an omnipotent entity
No he's not misunderstood bro
So yeah
Yall fw waddle doo?
He's not entirely "evil"...
dumbass snake that convinced adam and eve to eat the thing god literally went out of his way to explicitly tell them its forbidden
Lucifer is an ass who thought he was better than God and wanted to usurp Him because he thought that HE could do a better job
isnt the snake not even lucifer
idk i just thought of it randomly
There are like 5 different satans in the Bible
whatever nothing as draining as fucken bible talk
Yeah
They is believed to be

everyone say hi to waddle doo
hello waddle doo
omg hi
theres
Anti-good guy
Former Head Angel, now leader of Hell
Concept of Evil
i have that plush
form whta i remmeere
But it's never confirmed
Trying to talk about the Bible as a story is the stupidest thing ever because it's not that
holy Fuck from What I Remember jesus
Xeroc vs waddle doo
the bible just flatout does not make sense, storywise
waddle doo wipes the floor with xeroc
and when it tries, it fails
The Bible is just a bunch of moral stories clumped together
when bible lore rewrite smh
True...
Do I need to remind you of Beam Attack?
because it's a hallucination from several different guys who were probably high constantly
can't every kirby star allies playable character fight with the true secret final boss that is what kirby is implied to be born from with positive emotions
literally called void
No, not really
But like
Again
Whatever
can we get old testament overhaul this year please it really needs updating
There's a guy called Martin who has just what you want.
this isnt theology discussion guys
yeh lets discuss this instead
if ultimate soul melter ex isnt canon they at least fight void termina which is called god damn destroyer of worlds and you kill its soul inside it
Bible lore is like any other story; to resolve your doubts, you need to see additional content 
incomprehensible
do you guys think signus and xeroc smoke weed together in the distortion
Yes
absolutely
I want to write more about the Calamity Swap AU
Xeroc signus yaoi
yea
Correct
What's the current intel?
Wdym?
CZIER TENGAL TFDYM THUMBS DOWN
"Void Termina is the final boss of Kirby Star Allies. Known as the Destroyer of Worlds, he is a being made of pure chaos conjured from the Jamba Heart by Hyness in order to destroy the galaxy, after having been initially sealed within it by four ancient heroes of yore. Having been worshiped as a god by Hyness and his followers, Void Termina is an immensely powerful primal cosmic being who seems only interested in destroying everything he comes across. Void Termina initially appears as a gigantic gorilla-like humanoid, but is capable of changing his form as the battle goes on, with his last form greatly resembling both Kirby and Dark Matter. "
AND LAURA?
Skill issue

What the [Primordial Light Sigil Censorship]
a fucking parasol waddle dee can fight this guy
pictured: waddle doo effortlessly deflecting noxus' anti matter beam
Wdym?
guys this is also notg kirby discussion
On the AU.
Like, what do I have written already?
I only have a list
Yharim/Xeroc
Yharon/Zeratros
Providence/Otonilou
Amidias/Calamitas
Permafrost/Draedon
Tyrian/Shakidou
Dogma/War
Noxus/Signus
Devourer of Gods/Moon Lord
Silva/Agnus
Weaver/Polterghast
Braelor/Statis
Old Duke/Primordial Wyrm
Dragonfolly/Desert Scourge
Anahita/Brimmy
Slime God/Empress of Light
Plaguebringer Goliath/Astrum Deus
WHERE DOES PARASOL WADDLE DEE SCALE
i just saw tyrian shakidou
Yeah ive been silently wondering wtf
Hehe
wet tyrian
I should add that I don't plan on swapping domains
real
So something that ive been wondering
Providence still got Flame, Otonilou atill got Storms, etc
Slime God is now a pyromaniac.
if Dragonfolly is DS and Amidias is Calamitas, does that mean Amidias floods somewhere instead yeah
OTONILOU PERFECT ASCENDED???
amidias floods the jungle.......
Ah, Vetrasyl gets Electricity.
i was gonna say because like
Anyways yeah
My idea is that Amidias floods Azafure
Why do you ask this as if you dont know the answer
That makes sense
sky fellow
yeah its just a bird
dragon bird
The thing is exactly that, in this world
I want to make so Providence actually just
Wins
And stops Amidias
I think follies are meant to be kind of a widespread species and you just fight a population of them in the sky
This is an insane sentence man
Calamitas is now a random half-drowned girl.
wasnt on my 2026 checklist
that bird i hate
LMAOOOO
Nope
Queen of Azafure
Fuck you
My Cor Ex is testing random video game weapons
Or a fittingly high position
does azafure still get nuked in this version
anahita brimmy swap? š¤
So are the guards still gay as shit for provi
Ask your questions
Lame
I also don't plan on swapping anyone with Calamitas' brothers
And I wanted them to still be alive too
Why not with the dragon cultists
At least make her President... Then again, how the hell would she get elected? Who's gonna vote? Aquaman?
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both of calamitas' brothers swap with sir nautilus, obviously!
I mean
I guess Baroness of Azafure works
Come on, they're at least a Grand Duchy.
hello lawg
Hi Omni
:3
I'm saying insane sentences here
I need attention please please!!1!!1!
(I'm not even going to lie, I'm too lazy for that)
Such as Amidias flooding Azafure and Providence stopping him
happens
Amidias is trans woman?
No
was there a desert god. perchance
There's also
melon gun and asking if characters are queer
She referred to amidias as she
otonilou and tyrian .
Hi
melon gun vs the concept of typos
hai felix
they like water
So, like, he has a friend inside him?
who likes sand
Sand elemental
Not Anakin.
š„ ,
Generally I also love the idea of
DoG actually being all that in this AU
He is THE GUY
So DoG is Gaston.
š„ šļø transfem amidias
Signus making ml
I prefer the idea of Signus hiring Moon Lord
I'm being ignored, yay !!!
I do think that working Moon Lord into this will be hard
devourer of dragons
Because he wouldn't work for Xeroc in this case
Devourer of not gods
God of Devourers
He is now a direct enemy to Xeroc who has his own following and shit like DoG does in the Yharmy
actually i think swapping moon lord and xeroc could be really cool
something something xeroc becomes apocalypse bird
dog has his own following?
A being from another world came to Earth to bring peace and joy to the world, but the evil Yharim caused the world to be engulfed in flames
amidias upscale, instead of the incineration its the great flood
Xeroc's entire goal being to amass enough power to wage war on the Distortion
Ohhh that actually sounds really cool
But his efforts make so a creature from there can just show up and pose as a savior by opposing him
xeroc being in direct opposition to the distortion would make moon lord "allying" with them kinda interesting i think
more so than dog with yharim
Want to make a document with what I'd write for such a scenario now...
I don't think Xeroc would ever accept such an alliance tbh
Me too
Either way I still think my favorite character in all this is Providence

She goes from
Hell Murder Bitch
To
The Fucking Hero Of The Story
They's a chill guy
no shot storm weaver lives xeroc crusade š
NO DONT TELL ME XEROC THREW HIM TO HIS PRISON
NOOOOOO.
Idea: Polterghast is now made of god Essences
I don't know how that would work
But it's just an idea
"oh boy i sure am glad i finally escaped the distortion!"
evil and intimidating dungeon:
My idea is that during Braelor's rampage in the Dungeon, he broke Ceaseless Void and Weaver escaped through it, wrecking havoc and forcing the Dragon Cult to bury the Dungeon so nothing else could escape. Weaver now roams the empty halls of the Dungeon, never able to find its freedom.
The Polterghast, on the other hand, is a botched experiment made by Xeroc. A prototype to see how he could stitch souls together, but it would break from containment and start roaming Terraria, tearing through everything it found in its way.
Interesting
'Hey, boss, where did we put the portal to that dimension?'
'Ah, yeah, I put it somewhere safe.'
'Where's that?'
'The one place not yet corrupted by capitalism... Space!'
'What the hell man.'
Truly
Interesting
So yeah I didn't really change Weaver and Polter a lot but
I think I put them in interesting places regardless
Permafrost swapping with Draedon seems incredibly interesting
I really want to work with Permafrost
But I'm thinking what exactly I will do with Draedon
I don't think I will like, actually change Draedon a lot as much as just
One idea I had was that the Stormweaver would be affected by the souls in the dungeon and corrupted by them or something like that
Change his origin
Instead of spawning in the laboratory and immediately getting to work
He just
Gets out
Permafrost's an artificer and Draedon has the directive to further magical theory.
wait he spawns in a lab
And integrates into society
i thought dude spawned next to a dead dude in a field
post ascension xeroc sprite leaked!!!
Also that
either i hallucinated a whole origin story for this dude or i misread one of his earlier quotes
No you didn't
okay cool
Who would win?
Xeroc vs Barbie
So by the time he gets roped into the crusade, Draedon is an actually genuinely really cool guy because he had the time to develop not what is rationally the best, but emotionally the best. He learned that emotions to humans are just as important as reason, and he accounts for that when developing anything
Basically
What if a fully developed Draedon participated in the Crusade?
Would he still do what he did?
permafrost in draedon's place feels rly funy
aaaaaaah. i did misread. i misintepreted "surrounded by nothing but a dense taiga" as "i physically was in a taiga" and didnt see the part with the lab
he wouldnt do allat. right
I think Permafrost would just do
Other things

As I said I swapped Deus and PBG for a reason
I had an idea: Permafrost manages to create a technology that keeps things at absolute zero (or close to it)
oh ngl i thought you meant like
i think he'd be mildly unstoppable if he had emotional understanding down
what if draedon became a therapist instead
Because I love the idea of Permafrost puckling Deus from the sky and enslaving it
its like the one uhh lil tidbit: "do you want the truth, or do you want results?"
frozen corpse of deus.......
draedon ft. Emotive Understanding could likely find the exact amount of stuff a person is willing to lose to not give information/do stuff, and then add +1
permafrost could be scary as fuck ngl
like "oh okay you wont give it if i kill your wife, but you will give it if i threaten to use torture and THEN kill. got it"
i can roughly see it but he's kinda a chud currently so its hard
his apprentice kinda steals the show from the pacifist
Yeah, but I do also think that Draedon over time would develop a moral sense
the "pacifist"
ahem
"I'll erase your Terraria world with more hours of gameplay"
"NOOOOO"
"I will also delete your character with the most playtime hours"
"NOOOOOO-"
I don't think that he would always be 100% rational and always look for results
I think that, eventually, yes
He would gain a moral compass
"im gonna put you in the box."
"oh okay"
"it has Mutant from Fargos Souls Mod"
"Fuck No Dude What The Fuck"
would draedon eventually tell xeroc to fuck off
im such a huge fan of the idea of draedon giving us like
a camera for when we go to the Aerie
Yeah that's what I think would be the interesting thing here
like a chest camera that lowers our stats slightly but also gives us a cool thing if we win
Draedon being forced to do things that he knows are not only kinda stupid, but also morally reprehensible
It probably wouldn't work if it were normal... But with him, you never know
exo armor would 100% have at least a few hidden cameras lol
i dont think this is even emotional intelligence this is just understanding efficiency
I would genuinely love so much to write a Draedon who would eventually stop siding with Xeroc because he can't continue doing this anymore
Like fuuuuck that sounds so cool
i love this wtf
yes but he could understand why they do this, instead of understanding that people dont like losing things
wait he's xeroc sided
what
Yeah I mentioned a while back
Nanoscale cameras
Xeroc/Yharim swap
swaps with permafrost as advisor guy
And also Yharon/Zeratros
Connected to the Exo Mechs and Draedon with Exotech
Yharim becomes God of Primordial Light or
does xeroc gaf abt the dragons like yharim or
oh is zeratros dropped for yharon
So it's Xeroc and Zeratros leading the Crusade, not with the intent of killing all gods but amassing enough power to wage war on the Distortion because they both think that Yharim's solution isn't effective
Their relationship being strained because Yharim just
Refuses to do that
He has the power to do that alone
Yet he doesn't
wouldnt they want to get a lot of gods for that task
Yeah, that's something I changed a bit
Some gods actually do side with them and he doesn't kill them
But when they don't
is yharim still radicalized into wanting mass genocide here?
Xeroc destroys their kingdom and claims their soul for themselves
Because then he can actually put that power to use
The seven god souls
Nah
Yharim is a chill guy in this
Too chill

Xeroc swap is Yharim without propaganda
strongest dgafer
Xeroc who's desperately hacking and slashing at the Distortion vs Yharim, God of Rebirth offering you a cold beer
Dude, seriously, I didn't know I needed this swap
My idea is that Yharim put a spell on Terraria which basically makes so Auric Souls can't really be consumed, in a way. They'll always come back in some way or another and that means Distortion creatures can't feed off of them
"dude can you please do Something. Any Fucking Thing."
"no man im fixing my rideable lawnmower. i need gears and im makin them and that takes time."
"there is an EVIL MAN trying to crush your lawnmower."
"and when he does ill turn him into sauce. whats the problem here"
im obsessed with thinking of the idea of what if yharim actually accepted his destiny given by dogma or whatever n became "god king" (whatever that means)
I've always wondered what Xeroc would be like if he had never absorbed Zeratros's soul, but I had no idea what he would be like
Xeroc and Zeratros think this is a fucking stupid idea because if Yharim ever dies or meets his match, then Terraria is fucked
Gives +3 Charisma.
And want to enter the Distortion with a massive army and kill everything
isnt this like
flawed logic
the distortion might got the Throngler who obliterates them all
Character flaws exist yeah
i mean yeah thats a good thing
im moreso commenting from a worms eye perspective
"why would king xeroc do that shit i heard that they got the Wiggler from Mario in there"
If there is, then there's no reason to fight it
Laura
If anything, Xeroc would just be expediting the destruction of Terraria by delivering all of its power directly to the Distortion
Besides, even if there is such a creature, they must kill Yharim to feed off of Terraria. He could just fuck off to God knows where and Terraria would continue existing. Sure, civilization as a we know it would be gone, but at least
Terraria has... Ahem
A chance at rebirth

Could I try to do a design for your swap? Not right now of course
Sure!
I'm thinking of making Providence more humanoid, maybe
Oh she absolutely would be
I imagine her exactly like Manager of La Manchaland Don Quixote
does the spell on Terraria have a limit or could he just go to like Biddlebob coordinates eight billion x seven trillion z
Something symbolic, because well, she doesn't want to commit omnicide
Yeah I know who you're talking about
For all he knows there's no distance limit
My drawing style isn't very polished when it comes to human figures, but I can do something
Byeah, like
That's basically the general premise of the swap
As I said before
It's ironically similar to Old Lore Yharim
What was old lore yharms goals
Old Lore Yharim just went from place to place and asked people to do things for him. If they refused, he killed them and got what he wanted from their corpse
I se
That's how Swap Xeroc works
If people don't side with his goal, he just kills them and gets their power from their corpse
Except Permafrost, where he used magic on him to freeze him.
(Note: He didn't know magic.)
He also cursed Calamitas but that's besides the point
im gonna Kill you im xeroc and you HATE gala apples and i love them
"Would you like to be part of my army?"
"No thank-"
"Welcome to the army beginner soldier"
"i said NO THANK-"
"Then die"
The thing powerscalers forget; Yharim's abilities in old Lore were 'whatever the hell Yharim wants'.
something something unmatched power of the sun death ray
Another thing I like is that like
Xeroc is basically "whatever the hell DEVS want"
me when i curse the most powerful witch in the world to use her magic
(joke please don't kill me with Cei's plothole deathray)
He can't he doesn't know magic, so he has to use magic to control her, duh.
When I still believed that the old lore was canon (I didn't know that new lore existed), I had the headcanon that the curse of Yharim was the giant eye she turned on
The main characteristic of the current Calamity world is that it's stagnant because Yharim uprooted everything. Apathy has consumed the land, and no one sees any hope in the future. Ironically, through his crusade, Yharim left the world sterile, forsaking them a chance at rebirth.
In the Swap, Xeroc sought to strike down Terraria's biggest threat. His peers didn't see his vision, they didn't understand why he wanted to do something when nothing was even coming out of that place for the last 800 years. He did it anyways, amassing power while leaving nothing behind, but this time the world did not take this lying down. They fought back, and still are. Ironically, Xeroc's own goal blinded him to reason.
i mean thats what it was
he cursed her to turn into an eye and obey him
Why Calamitas Clone Infernum mode is more lore accurate than the official one
ive been randomly reminded abt wulfrum in the context of the swap
they actually were allowed to dev that one
Because calamity has 3747373 more things to focus on then infernum
I don't think you understood what I said
And yeah as I said fucking
3 times already
Its nearly midnight
yeah you say fucking a lot
Oh no
Reference
pancho
The Terrarian in this case isn't someone who breaks through the apathy and actually quickens the soil, but rather a new presence who can finally break the stalemate and put an end to Xeroc's mad rampage
When will you exist beyond local food
we face xeroc and he is quite actively throwing random bullshit at the gigantic distortion portal and seeing what bounces
Do you think Xeroc would sacrifice Zeratros to ascend?
And fuck I want to even like, design how a game like this would look like š
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Yeah probably but he doesn't want to
Would be some sort of last resort on his end
Or even already planned
ideasguy final boss event
Just not executed yet
Bro I need to write about how Providence factors into this
I couldn't create a game about that but maybe I could make a mod (still not yet tho)
Like what she would be doing seeing as she's also the #1 person fighting off Xeroc
And definitely not as big as Calamity
I'd probably end up removing some stuff like
Admittedly, an Amidias Clone doesn't work here
Because Amidias isn't meant to be like Calamitas
hello chat i fell asleep
and i had what i think is my first cal related dream?
i dreamt that i checked my email and one of those dumbass post summaries reddit sends you was there
Amidias in this world is just an evil bastard with no real redeeming qualities. He also never left the crusade so there's no reason to replace him with a clone
I think my first dream about Calamity was about Nameless Deity speaking directly to me
And... I don't remember what he said to me lol
two of them were from r/calamity mod
one was shitty fanart of cal fandom noxus merged with yharim and one suggested that in this dream world molten armor was a direct parallel to auric tesla
like it was designed to be mini auric
Lmao?
That sounds
Strange
Like a
I do want to make a mock up of my own take on the concept.
why molten of all armors
Stranger thing
Finally, more Yharim aura farming.
the post evil 1 melee armor
It's melee and yellowish.
not even like aerospec or something

Like what is his scheme to take down Terraria?
it has no yellow on it tmk
Aerialite and Auric makes more sense ig.
If you cloned elementals would the clones also have the power if elementals naturally have it
Stranger thing
You can't clone Elementals
Maybe... Stranger Things
Damn
Do they even have DNA?
thank you i didnt hear the first itm
silva definitely does
Lol?
Idk ask one
but its all of other organisms its not like unique
Hey, any Elementals in chat?
She's a Mew biologically talking i suppose
So, Mew?
@cosmic minnow
Does this mean we can make Mewtwo?
Siffrin
Is the terrarian still our oc
Yeah
Let's talk about how my character Cor Ex became Xeroc's adopted son and how he lost to a blue slime one-hit
this just makes me think of that one roy gif
My idea was moreso that there was an asshole who showed up out of nowhere with completely indeciphrable goals and just erected an army to do something
You commited genocide for reasons of your choice!
But I didn't know how to handle that because then most other characters have nothing to bounce off of
Xeroc owes me 20 bucks
- I didn't know who to swap Xeroc with
Genocide is up to you!!!
So I just did Yharim/Xeroc
Moonlor- wait i don't think that would work well
Noxus
But maybe they arenāt similar at all since we donāt know anything about big noxā
Wouldn't work
Xeroc draedon
Some monk just decides to beat everyone up, a space squid from another dimension shows up in the aftermath, horrified, and rushes to a dying dragon...
Well, I was just thinking about Fovos trying to help Terraria with the hot sun
Xeroc/Permafrost is way better
Xeroc/amidias
Xeroc x amidias
Primordial Light Magic 
What the hell
I typoed
