lore-discussion

[proud fable]

but then

why do i have a boss fight wit hhim

[wanton pendant]

It's a bug.

[leaden bridge]

the calamity boss healthbar sometimes does that

[proud fable]

why do i have to kill spike

[leaden bridge]

you don't

[proud fable]

just kidding

[leaden bridge]

afaik when spawnrates are too high sometimes things will attempt to spawn but cannot so the healthbar has a crisis and just like appears for an entity that did appear

[rose star]

Augustus neg

[limpid saddle]

it's a shame only the regular boss healthbars have the custom ui when the calamity one is so much better at displaying information

[dusk laurel]

i love my 2000th mgrr reference in my mod

[limpid saddle]

no matter what it IS good ui design

[woeful karma]

genuinely my favorite calamity bug ever

its just been like this forever

[dusk laurel]

it wont even be the normal cal boss ui soon anyways

[simple tangle]

It sucks imo its stuck on the bottom right of the screen ANDits ugly

[woeful karma]

its been like this since pre-draedon update

[dusk laurel]

for some reason its being kept as an option with the new boss ui but whatever

[limpid saddle]

why is it bad that its on the bottom right of the screen?

also i guess its just an aesthetic opinion but what about it is ugly???

[dusk laurel]

it doesnt fit with anything else

[split mortar]

Prolly just so those who want to can use it

[dusk laurel]

🥹

[sacred pilot]

Yeah I wouldn't mind it getting replaced.

[woeful karma]

i will be celebrating the day it gets replaced

[reef wigeon]

How strong do you think the mutant is compared to, Idk, Xeroc?

(mutant from Fargo's Souls mod)

[limpid saddle]

mutant-tier

[reef wigeon]

That doesn't answer my question...

[split mortar]

Dont think souls has all that much lore especially on powerscaling so i think random bs from accessories are probably the only stuff we can do
Which
I think puts mutant above universal minimum???

[wanton pendant]

Something something he's at Calamitas and Exo Mechs in progression.

Something something he's your past lifes skin.

Something something gay.

Uh, so, like, at least seven in strongness.

[limpid saddle]

what?

[wanton pendant]

What?

[reef wigeon]

What

[wanton pendant]

What?

[reef wigeon]

Something something he can speed up the Bossrush to post-moonlord bosses.

[wanton pendant]

That's because he bribes Xeroc, which is the REAL corruption.

[reef wigeon]

What exactly does he use to bribe Xeroc???

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc coins.

[reef wigeon]

._.?

If there are Xeroc coins, there are also Xeroc ingots

[sacred loom]

Souls, obv

[random mulch]

mutant gets mogged by desert scourge obviously

[sacred loom]

Dessert scorches, the best cruchy treats

[dusk laurel]

👎

[spare pier]

Whenever you feel like Calamity's ecology stretches the line of belieavability

Always remember

Sulphurous Sea

[wanton pendant]

Beelievability.

[dusk laurel]

what if we cooked you into a toxic stew

[young socket]

what if i cooked you into shroomble stew

[dusk laurel]

[young socket]

why is it so BLURRY

[wanton pendant]

You need glasses.

[young socket]

no

[dusk laurel]

the sprite does feel compressed yeah

might be the pisscord curse

[mighty zenith]

them

[dusk laurel]

i love this app that just gets worse for no reason and the devs dont do anything to deserve existing

[agile matrix]

it is quite blurry

[split mortar]

Holy shit both are compressed compared to before it feels

[agile matrix]

the pumpkin ones okay

the shroomble is

[young socket]

i think they just didnt scale it prior to adding it as an emoji

[agile matrix]

Fucked Up

[young socket]

so discord had to upscale it automatically

but it obviously doesnt know how to upscale pixel art

it just thinks "ok ur 32x32 now"

[frail copper]

yo i've been very interested on the calamity lore recently but i don't know where i can see the whole thing do any of yall know about a video or a site that has most of the lore?

[soft flame]

there's a doc that says all that is known pinned in this channel

[frail copper]

thanks dude

[long bloom]

specifically the second pin

[frail copper]

the other doc is just the stuff form the game like the logs and memories?

[long bloom]

yeah it's a glorified wiki page (sry octo)
the other one has actual writing and contains lore not in the game (which is most of it)

[frail copper]

damn thats pretty cool

thanks bro

[dusk laurel]

i think a wholesomer term would be lore glossary

[long bloom]

true

[wanton pendant]

It's like some kind of reference.

[tropic quartz]

is the blossom flux tooltip written by silva?

it kinda seems like it but idk too much lore

oh wait yeah pretty sure it is nvm

[raven brook]

yeah

[woeful karma]

fire emoji??

[woeful karma]

how could you say thuis

[raven brook]

holy shit guys

jade palace mention

@dusk laurel no way.

[agile matrix]

oh that makes sense to that other lore entry

"What the fuck is a metaphor" image here

also i am a big fan of learning how Calamitas speaks; she's actually semi-casual outside of battle

[long bloom]

it was bad explanation im sorgy

[woeful karma]

i DONT forgive you 🤬 🤬 🤬

[long bloom]

[pulsar ocean]

Elden ring mention

[woeful karma]

extremely loud correct jingle fading into extremely loud incorrect buzzer midway through

[feral skiff]

WAIT WHAT

CALAMITAS DIALOGUE???

HOW DO I SEE THIS

[long bloom]

exhumed item tooltips

[neat jetty]

Call me a larper but idk what is yharim character in lore

Even thought I mostly know the lore in calamity

And how it going..

[raven brook]

i

how does that . make you al arper

im conchfused

Anyways he's the main villain of the mod

most of the story revovles around how he fucked up the world

[neat jetty]

Oh

[woeful karma]

larper as in "larping as a cal lore fan"

[raven brook]

oh i see

all of the lore whispers you get from beating bosses is him talking to you

[neat jetty]

Got it

[glacial rampart]

i hate the term larp used in this way! i hate it ! i hate it !!! aaaghhh !!!! !

why do so many people have reze pfps !! !

is she cool

[raven brook]

yeah shes awesome

[split mortar]

Siffrin is cool

[pulsar ocean]

s

[real silo]

She's more than cool

She da bomb

Cheese, too, is also

Da bomb

[jaunty wraith]

Wait where did you find this?

[agile matrix]

wiki

[jaunty wraith]

Like where specificly, I dont rememebr seeing this at all

[woeful hatch]

Yharim is the person who led the crusade to kill all the gods (and their worshippers)

He's Yharon's master, used to employ Calamitas, Draedon, Devourer of Gods, and Permafrost, among other people, etc

He's the one who talks to you via the lore items

If you want to know anything public about the lore, check the document in pins of this channel

[wanton pendant]

Devourer is still technically aligned with him, since he never actually defected. He's as loyal as ever! (Not at all.)

[south relic]

This is probably just me, but I may be unreasonably obsessed with flavor text — I honestly wish every weapon in the Calamity MOD had some.😉

[wanton pendant]

Real.

[sacred pilot]

You read the flavor text for the Devil's Devastation lineup?

[south relic]

Actually, I've only played a version from quite a while back.
Did they add more flavor text?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[south relic]

Well, I guess I'll give it a play after all this time.

[rose star]

In a scale of 1-10, how much calamity lore would be different if yharim, draedon and calamitas were good chums and went to therapy together?

[neat jetty]

And I heard he was trying to manipulate the player from the lore item

[agile matrix]

i think we’d be in technologic nirvana

[mighty zenith]

im not gonna lie i dont think therapy could save yharim and draedon

and calamitas too if she went with them

if she went alone then i can see her working things out

[agile matrix]

oh if they went together im half sure theyd blow it up

if they seperately went though

[mighty zenith]

yharim seems too stubborn to achieve anything

draedon would be completely unshakeable

[agile matrix]

just put him against himself; find a fundamental flaw

anything he puts in the other side replicates in a reasonable way

(downside: he could very easily figure that shit out)

also draedon isnt like

Emotionally unstable

[feral skiff]

why would a robot go to therapy

[split mortar]

Therapy cant help draedon cause the guy has nothing to therapise against
Yharim and calamitas would explode the city 😭

if the therapy somehow worked on yharim then yeah what wataerwraith said, 50

[feral skiff]

if yharim was a good person then the entire calamity lore wouldn’t happen

he was the entire catalyst basically

[wanton pendant]

'And that's why I dismantled the god cult. Luckily, I realized I had a problem and began an anger management course.'
'Can I borrow that dragon?'
'No.'
'I miss my brothers...'

[pulsar ocean]

does dog like his job

[wanton pendant]

His job is eat.

And kill.

I think he's on cloud nine.

[pulsar ocean]

would you enjoy being a straw

[wanton pendant]

Would you?

[pulsar ocean]

idk probably not

[dusk laurel]

HOLY FUCK

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, Sepulchre is DoG, obviously.

[untold forge]

long time no see

anyways what if xerocs proposal is just a boss rush mode version of the torch god event

[sacred pilot]

I'm really tempted to go on the Wiki and read the new dialogue 'n such but I also don't wanna be spoiled.

[untold forge]

thats literally such a mood though

[reef wigeon]

Draedon being a maniacal scientist and engineer is their destiny

And yeah

50

Okay, bye, I'm going to high school

[untold forge]

[wanton pendant]

Dude, don't leak!

[untold forge]

omg my bad ill head back to the future

[rose star]

Why would draedon go to therapy you ask my fellas

Well its because

[jaunty wraith]

Wait... Yharims the bad guy?

[rose star]

Yharim is batman if he decided to kill every single person who joined the bad guys

And anyone who commits even petty crimes

[sacred pilot]

Yes. Like. Very bad.

[sinful adder]

How did it take you this long to figure it out?

[jaunty wraith]

I was being sarcastic lol

[sinful adder]

Oh

Some people are not sarcastic about that

[jaunty wraith]

I know

This is I recall the first lore items that explicitly spell it out that yharim is not good

Yo whats the lore of santa claus in calamity?

[agile matrix]

it says it right there

he shows up,brings gifts, and leaves

explosively

[jaunty wraith]

I beleive thats what it says in vanilla

[sinful adder]

Either not canon or just some guy

[rose star]

Tyrant victim

[jaunty wraith]

Honestly Im gonna headcannon santa somehows gets to dragons aerie every year just to give yharim coal

[mighty zenith]

marvel style

[split mortar]

Thought it was dc

[mighty zenith]

santa is canon in both

though he specifically breaks into darkseid's lair to give him coal and manages to get through dr. doom's defenses to give him a present iirc

yes, doom is on the nice list

[reef wigeon]

Why do I think of HUNTING FOR YOUR DREAM (the ending theme of HxH) when I think of a fight against Noxus?

[agile matrix]

isnt doom like

lawful evil

or am i wrong

neutral evil at worst

[mighty zenith]

uhh he's still a war criminal

he is a pretty good country leader though

[agile matrix]

most superheros are, technically

Terrorists Moreso But

[mighty zenith]

he's mostly just a huge asshole to non-latverians

[rose star]

Speaking of marvel, could mcu scarlet witch beat calamitas?

[split mortar]

What can scarlet witch do

I feel its some random bs that wipes calamitas easily

[wanton pendant]

Probability manipulation.

[split mortar]

Ah

Calamitas experiences proton decay and fucking dies

[wanton pendant]

She makes it so that car by sheer chance is flung at you.

[split mortar]

Calamitas has a heart attack and fucking dies

[wanton pendant]

She once nuked nearly every mutant by saying three words.

[split mortar]

Well idk where the mcu mutants scale so uh :p

[wanton pendant]

Highest levels can basically arbitrate reality.

(Like, you know, Scarlet Witch.)

[split mortar]

Then why would calamitas even theoretically stand a chance

[wanton pendant]

Scarlet Witch is notoriously mentally unstable.

So she usually doesn't use everything she has.

[split mortar]

Doesnt calamitas’ flames affect the mental

Or well brimstone in general

[wanton pendant]

Yeah. Your mental fortitude is fading.

[scenic olive]

losing? i wont lose i trust myself

[rose star]

Remember that I said mcu scarlet witch

Spider man comics negs xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Fair enough.

[cosmic minnow]

Loosing trust, ending-nvm

[cosmic minnow]

Her magic affects her mental state when she goes bonkers

So like

Just casting a single brimstone fireball would be ok

Casting one of her most powerful spells

Not so ok

As much as I know

-# aren’t we torturing Calamitas by sparring with her?

[fickle rune]

How many of the bosses from calamity were part of yharim army ? I know about the mech trio, slime god and king slime

[eager bluff]

sg and king slime were not

[fickle rune]

Oh

[eager bluff]

mechs were, calamitas was, cryogen technically falls into that category as permafrost was in the yharmy, devourer of gods was, yharon still is

[jaunty wraith]

Oh my god I just had the most horrific thought

In calamity, respawns aernt a thing and the terrarias lore is up to you...

This means its an entirely valid canon that you beat scal the first time but then die to her when sparring

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is very anti-god, and King Slime... Probably can't think.

[split mortar]

Not what im on about

[elder kraken]

is there any video or "book" that describes calamity's lore (along with normal lore cuz i forgot it)

[primal hound]

so when's the yuri update

[young socket]

it was this update

look at the tooltips for the profaned guardians relics

[primal hound]

you lied to me

[young socket]

did you check in game

cuz i dont think the wikis up to date...

[primal hound]

oh no i didnt

[young socket]

yea wikis not up to date

check in game or in the pinned glossary/source document

[primal hound]

I LOVE YURI

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-digital-digitan-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-race-gif-15425357812391311017

[green prairie]

(slight update spoilers)
i know this isn't literal but the idea of providence being into dancing is so interesting to me. PLEASE more pre-ascension god lore

[primal hound]

[obsidian plume]

book as in doc?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LKTHNV3OpIQ88dozfzQhTvEylV1qzzwQeAsW77wf74c/edit?usp=drivesdk

[elder kraken]

yea

[obsidian plume]

thats the lore doc i linked

describes pretty much everything we know so far

well lore doc+

[elder kraken]

so there isnt anything official?

[obsidian plume]

i mean, it isn't official but the stuff in it was stated by devs

so its as official as you can get

all canon stuffsies

[split mortar]

A dev or two contributed to it but its not officially endorsed
Its also in the pins of this channel

[elder kraken]

oh thats sad that there isnt anything official

[obsidian plume]

makes no difference

[split mortar]

So its considered reliable enough by the devs and mods of the server

To be pinned

[elder kraken]

oh okay

a calamity movie would be fire

[rose star]

Maybe the real calamity was the trauma along the way

-Calamitas

[scenic olive]

maybe the real calamitas was the one that broke out of the clone vat

[fresh flax]

so there are cases where the auric soul absorption thingies were consensual, right? like the benevolent goddess of life silva didn't hunt down the dragon to apotheosize or smth

[long bloom]

we dunno about silva specifically but it can be assumed it's happened before

[green prairie]

there are theories that Zeratros may have willingly giving their soul to Xeroc, or that they absorbed the soul to preserve it, but we don't know enough about Xeroc's ascension to say for sure

[split mortar]

Theres bound to be some
Dunno if we know the circumstance of someone ascending other then providence atm

[green prairie]

to be fair its not like every absorbtion was exactly a bad thing anyway. the dragons of Flame and Gluttony were assholes iirc

[split mortar]

Sadly flame became providencd

[green prairie]

yeah Provi isn't much of an improvement but i feel like her intentions were pure. what she ended up aspiring for was not

[fresh flax]

also im seeing that yharon is like the second most powerful auric dragon? one can only imagine how powerful yharim would be if he absorbed yharon

[green prairie]

well thank god he didn't do that

[split mortar]

And whatever domains from yharon would prob be busted

[wanton pendant]

At least seven strong.

[green prairie]

speaking of Providence, was that always her name? or did she change after her ascension?

[wanton pendant]

Imagine having a kid and naming her Providence.

[fresh flax]

like probably 7 or 8 xeroc fingers

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume it's a pseudonym she attained later in life, although it may not have been because of ascension.

Like Cataclysm, Catastrophe and Calamitas, that's not their original names, they're nicknames.

[green prairie]

imagine having a kid and naming him Devourer of Gods

[wanton pendant]

Worse, that guy's also called 'Nameless Serpent'.
Their parents didn't even name them.

[green prairie]

assuming he even has worm parents, or if he just spawned in

[wanton pendant]

Maybe he doesn't have worm parents, he's just like that because he's EVIL.

Curse of worm.

[green prairie]

thinking about it in hindsight actually, DoG is probably the outlier when it comes to evil worms?

[untold forge]

what a loser

[green prairie]

not many of them are properly evil, most are just animals doing self-defense or Thanatos

[untold forge]

thats implies artemis/apollo are animals and I love it

[green prairie]

i like to imagine Thanatos at least has some animalistic vibes. i think it moves like a centipede :3 (a centipede with rocket boosters)

[untold forge]

fr

just a little fella

with rocket boosters and lasers of immediate vaporization. teehee look at the creature :>

[wanton pendant]

Since Calamitas describes him as 'Slime Brained', then I propose that DoG is King Slime and Queen Slime's abandoned child (abandoned for being ugly).

[split mortar]

Deus is mind controlled by out of date food and yeah the three other cal worms are maybe not evil? We dunno whats up with weaver might be sapient or animalistic

[green prairie]

Considering it just seems to be an apex predator, i assume Storm Weaver would be on the same level of evil as like. a bear or something

so not really at all

[long bloom]

we need tofu's opinion on weaver sapience

[green prairie]

i'd personally put Weaver on the level of like, most pokemon. its probably not full-on proper sapient, but it's intelligent enough to pick up on vibes

[untold forge]

LMAO

[agile matrix]

Abandoned Slime Staff...

[green prairie]

oh my god... thats why its purple...

[untold forge]

oh my gosh

i think we are cooking

[raven brook]

probably has a giant distortion ghoul as a "parent" (noxus

[raven brook]

y tofu

IM the weaver woman

tofus the deus guy!

[young socket]

why YOU

DOZE

[long bloom]

tofu is john worm

[young socket]

is the weaver man

[raven brook]

ok true

doze also gets it

doze can share the title

he literally made a storm weaver mod he deserves it

[young socket]

greedy chee stealing titles

[raven brook]

im literallyo bsessed with this thing

[young socket]

is being jane roy not enough for you

[wanton pendant]

This is the greed they talked about in the Gloomborf Chronicles.

[raven brook]

weaver is a pure and innocent soul and deserves to get the option to be spared in its bossfight

yepp

[split mortar]

Weaver turned into terrarian straw like dog is noxus straw

[raven brook]

dog hates weaver which automatically makes weaver good because dog a bih

[glacial wolf]

Idk how hot of a take this is but the rune bosses showing up during the DOG fight at full strength if u didnt fight them prior was the coolest shit ever

[dusk laurel]

wait this is funny rune of kos is called mark of providence now so i can call the distortion trio the mop bosses

[wanton pendant]

It... made a little sense when they were sentinels.

[green prairie]

it was cool when they were his servants but now it would make no sense

[glacial wolf]

I know

[glacial wolf]

Ik

But now they just feel like pointless bosses lmao

Why are they here

[raven brook]

yeah because they havent been reworked yet

[glacial wolf]

Doesnt dog's summon not even require you to fight them now didnt the recipe change

[raven brook]

they were functionally glorified minibosses before

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

[dusk laurel]

no thats an alternate recipe

[raven brook]

they will not be that anymore in the future

[split mortar]

Theres 2 now

[sacred pilot]

Yeah they're in desperate need of reworks.

Them and Polterghast.

[glacial wolf]

Same with slime gods

[dusk laurel]

every boss needs a rework dawg

[wanton pendant]

Distortion trio will eventually not be a minor inconvenience.

[glacial wolf]

Polterghast is unironically mostly ok

[dusk laurel]

this isnt just "these bosses need a rework" its basically all bosses

[sacred pilot]

Yes we all know that.

[dusk laurel]

[raven brook]

signus will have a boss fight that matches how much aura he has in lore hopefully

signus is reverse devourer

[sacred pilot]

Oh my god I remember that arguement we had a few days ago with some dude.

And everyone spammed that image at him.

[glacial wolf]

Its also on the older and biggest end of content mods OAT that still is updated to this day

Cant expect it to be finished

[raven brook]

devourer:

• VERY loud and arrogant, makes sure EVERYONE knows how cool and strong he is
• has negative aura and becomes a coward the moment someone is stronger than him, even if those stronger than him are < 1%

[dusk laurel]

reading dog's lore gives him the auraloss debuff this is true

[raven brook]

signus:

• very quiet. stays in the back doing his own thing. likes to be secretive and only shows up when needed
• has insane amounts of aura and probably has long-term plans to make himself the dominant force in the distortion

[wanton pendant]

Counterpoint:
DoG: Has a cool title.
Signus: Doesn't have a title, like some kind of nerd.

[raven brook]

signus dosen't need a cool title

[sacred pilot]

He needs no titles.

[dusk laurel]

nerd

[split mortar]

Did signus fnot get a tile in bs

[sacred pilot]

He only needs actions to prove his worth.

[raven brook]

devourers title is because hes compensating

🙂‍↕️

look look

im the devgourer of gods

im so cool i so awesome

hes literally fucking homelander

😭

[untold forge]

I knew it was you

[dusk laurel]

😨

[green prairie]

i love devourer but i love hating him

[raven brook]

devourer is extremely hateable and thats intentional. its fun

i like him as a character but dear lord hes soooo hateable

[green prairie]

sometimes there's just that one character that's such a hateable piece of shit and i love him for it

[raven brook]

again hes straight up homelander

[young socket]

r we gonna have dog vs random character from another story powerscaling debates

[wanton pendant]

Loserscaling.

[raven brook]

whos a bigger loser

devourer or homelander

[raven brook]

im chees

[dusk laurel]

we already had that its called random powerscalers entering lore disc in 2024

[untold forge]

🧀

[green prairie]

can we get devourer of gods sigma edits where he has the stupid laser eyes effect

[untold forge]

YEA

[split mortar]

Pulls up new wordversal for dogs scaling

[dusk laurel]

LMAAOOOOOO

[wanton pendant]

DoG is Yumversal, duh.

[raven brook]

DoG and Homelander both are extremely powerful individuals who due to their immense strenght can do whatever they want without any sort of consequences and because of that they treat hte world as their own personal power fantasy basifcally

however

there is a like 1% of people who are stronger than them

[untold forge]

I'm excited to see calamitas fry the DoG honestly

I don't mind sitting back and watching it happen

[raven brook]

and the moment they have to confront that 1% they lose all that bravado and arrogance gives in to them being absolutely fucking pathethic

[wanton pendant]

Result:

[untold forge]

A new live corpse to bring back tbh

[raven brook]

i have my own persoanl theory for why DoG is like That btw

[untold forge]

He ate too many burgers ...

[raven brook]

I think DoG isn't a part of the Noxus hivemind for a few pretty obvious reasons (It'd imply Noxus's personality is ... like that)

[dusk laurel]

#bringbackthemetaphorcowards

[green prairie]

i imagine the moment he encounters that 1% is just the forest demon scene from smiling friends

[raven brook]

He was given free will and sapience maybe to maximize his effiency or something

Cuz maybe t hat way

Noxus dosen't have to like

have a direct connection with it to control it all the time (Maybe that's why weaver broke free???? Wasn't given enough sapience to act on its own accord and needed to be directly controlled by noxus... game theory)

So

With this in mind

[untold forge]

What the fuck is a metaphor 🦅

[wanton pendant]

Ok, but it'd be really funny if this mysterious extradimensional monster had the personality of an edgy 14 year old.

[untold forge]

I think he does

[raven brook]

Devourer is a sapient, self-aware being that was explicitly created to serve a stronger being and its only purpose in life is to make it stronger

[untold forge]

Average reddit user

[raven brook]

And then it was unleashed in terraria

[dusk laurel]

dog would complain about 2.1 qol removals

[raven brook]

and other than "give me fucking essence" not really given any orders beyond that

[untold forge]

LMAO

[raven brook]

I think the reaosn DoG is both such a self-indulgent basically hedonistic asshole

and also why hes so adamantly against being subservient to others and becoems a pathethic coward at it

is because all of this is in a way him experiencing as much freedom as he can because of the fact that he quite literally is just a being created to be a too for something else

he's a fucking Straw

He indulges in being the strongest the coolest the best and doing whatever horrible shit he feels like for fun because it's his way of feeling in control and subjecting others to what he's subjected, and then when he feels like he lacks in control that facade goes away and you see how much of a pathethic coward he really is

thanks for listening yo my ted talk

cuz like yeah

it wouldnt rly

make sense

for noxus to specifically make devourer be an arrogant egotistical cowardly prick

it dosent rly. benefit it. in any way

[wanton pendant]

Maybe Noxus thought it would be really funny.

[green prairie]

DoG being such an arrogant prick all the time as a front to hide the fact that he's insecure as fuck about being apart of a greater scheme he doesn't understand is really interesting

[raven brook]

dog is literally the butter robot from rick and morty

what is my purpose

youre a straw that gets divine essence in my mouth

[green prairie]

on one hand that makes him kinda sympathetic and i feel bad for him. on the other hand he's a fucking asshole and i hate him

[raven brook]

It fits with how pathethic he can be imo, its less of a "aww hes morally gray and his actions are justified" and more of a "damn. you're so pathethic that i pity you."

like hes still a evil bastard

[obsidian plume]

I'd like to imagine the way DoG got into the crusade was because yharon is a huge idiot and believed all the lies dog said about how great he is and yharim had no choice

it makes no sense but it makes me happy

[raven brook]

i mean imagine being yharim

and you see a giant fucking. thing

conveniently able

to consume divine essence

and that calls itself the devourer of gods

yharims perception towards dog is basically

"god damn it he's so obviously trying to trick me and its way too convenient.

but holy shit he's so useful. what can ya do."

[green prairie]

would DoG have eaten Yharim if he had the opportunity?

[raven brook]

I mean he dosen't hvae any real allegiance towards anyone

If he was strong enough to do it and it benefitted him in some way yeah probably

problem is:

if he was strong enough to do it

the only real allegiance dog has is to noxus and thats because he uh

has no real choice on that matter

[green prairie]

considering Yharim was basically the terrarian back when he was in his prime yeah i dont think DoG would be able to (besides then he'd incur the wrath of Yharon)

[raven brook]

i like this theory too because it does give a potential explanation for

1. why weaver managed to escape the hivemind

2. why devourer is sapient, while weaver isnt, and that seemingly is a "upgrade"

weaver wasnt sapient enough to act on noxus's goals on its own

so noxus had ot directly control it

[raven brook]

when weaver went out of the distortion, the connection became weaker, and noxus wasn't able to directly control it anymore

devourer is fully sapient and thus dosen't need to have noxus controlling it directly

[raven brook]

we aren't even talking about the terrarians lore ....

terrarian siffrrin gun

[split mortar]

The message inreliesd to was mentioning terarian

[long bloom]

inreliesd

[obsidian plume]

I'd like to imagine the distortion is Noxus' big worm closet and he just has worm autism

[long bloom]

[obsidian plume]

The only 2 creatures from the distortion that isn't the body of some guy and an actual portal is just worms

[green prairie]

it just plucks random worms and gives them divine madness

[raven brook]

i mean we have only seen a very small amount of distortion creatures so far

nope acutally. fuck you

distortion is

purple land

wit hgray floating rocks

nad all of its inhabitatns are worms

where's the crispy image

[green prairie]

i am really curious to learn what kind of fauna exists in the distortion. is it actually just worms? or other lower-level critters?

[obsidian plume]

worm hyperfixation is real

worm autism noxus is canon and so is boring purple land

[dusk laurel]

this is what fabsol wanted the distortion to be (dog arena)

[green prairie]

i always personally imagined the Distortion looked a lot like the Distortion World from pokemon

[dusk laurel]

💣

[green prairie]

it'd be a little more fleshed out than just floating islands and dying trees but it feels like the kind of place Noxus would be into

[wanton pendant]

I mean it's canonically Pokémon Hell.

[split mortar]

Wheres pokemon heaven

[long bloom]

i'm (very, very,
very slowly) working on a minecraft mod that'll overhaul the end among other things, and i think i'm subconsciously making it like how i imagine the distortion to be

just more yellow

[wanton pendant]

Why are you making the End yellow?

[long bloom]

end stone

[green prairie]

i wouldn't call it hell exactly, i think that idea just comes from the stigma of Giratina being evil pokemon satan (they're not)

[wanton pendant]

Giratina had a character arc, they're not evil.

[dusk laurel]

endstone is like a pale yellow and also yellow works well with purple

[raven brook]

Ok it's definitely not just worms like jokes aside

[green prairie]

its nothing spectacular

[raven brook]

There will be actual creature diverstiy and diversity in its aesthethics

Artists want to make it Not Really Boring

[wanton pendant]

I didn't post that because I was worried someone here didn't actually beat the game.

[raven brook]

keep in mind

the distortion isn't just the Noxus Place

[green prairie]

Legends Arceus is 4 years old, if you didnt beat it that's on you at this point

[raven brook]

it's more like Noxus just has alot of dominance on it

we know that for a fact becasue i mean

Signus exists

[long bloom]

i personally could not give less of a shit about pokemon

[raven brook]

entirely independent creature from the distortion that is not subservient to any other higher being nor does it have any affiliations with noxus

[wanton pendant]

You gotta remember some people are average in skill. Beating Pokémon games can take decades for them.

[raven brook]

pokemon games are notably like really fucking easy though arent they

[wanton pendant]

That's the joke.

[split mortar]

Beaten volo but not arceus, idrc tho

[green prairie]

Legends Arceus is a little more complicated though i'd say but yeah

[dusk laurel]

👆

[green prairie]

but yeah i wanna know what kinda silly creatures exist in the Distortion outside of Noxus' influence

[raven brook]

we dunno

maybe a hippopotamus

[green prairie]

are they like Terraria's creatures? or are they gonna be totally alien

[dusk laurel]

youre gonna wait for a while

aliens

[raven brook]

i imagine they'd be pretty alien

[green prairie]

if i cant pet at least one of them ingame im quitting calamity. forever /silly

[long bloom]

stip said several years ago that he wanted the distortion to be like eldritch wilderness

this is all of the information about the distortion

[wanton pendant]

Maybe there'll be English people.

[raven brook]

i imagine atleast some of the stuff in the distortion wont be outright hostile

like ambient critters and stuff

[dusk laurel]

all i know is that i think the artists would rather die than make the distortion flora and fauna boring and lame

[raven brook]

the distortion shitlings

yeahhh they've been very adamant and how theyre not gonna make it purple floating rock island world

[obsidian plume]

but purple floating rock island world is very original

why not

[green prairie]

well i mean yeah. Braelor lives there (though i don't think he'd have an english accent personally)

[obsidian plume]

especially is there's nothing else

[raven brook]

yeah its gonna be blue floating earth island wrold instead

[wanton pendant]

Woah, woah, woah, you can't just go calling Braelor English.

[raven brook]

Braelor is latino in my heart

[dusk laurel]

the distortion has the ultimate calamity style singularity

[untold forge]

love it

[green prairie]

i said i don't think he has an english accent

[split mortar]

@ionic harness is braelor english

[untold forge]

oh my fucking god braelor ant

that brings back memories

do i still have statis slug

[raven brook]

nedays profile picture is also bringing me back memories

memories of a certain drawing i made yesterday

[green prairie]

ive always imagined braelor is actually pretty well off for himsel. outside of the being stuck in the distortion stuff.

[split mortar]

HUH

[untold forge]

god how long ago was that made

[dusk laurel]

awesome

[untold forge]

atleast a year or 2 right?

[split mortar]

🔥?

[raven brook]

he misses his husband...

[untold forge]

terrarian i miss my hustband

ill be back

[raven brook]

i miss my husband, signus

[green prairie]

like stanford pines stuck in his portal type stuff. hes not great but hes thriving in space

[raven brook]

i miss him alot

ill be back

[untold forge]

XD

[split mortar]

Guide and braelor

[dusk laurel]

terrarian i miss my wife

[raven brook]

i think braelor hasnt been long enough in the distortion to make him like insane or anything yet but its probably really fucking lonely

cuz its been like what

a year or less?

[long bloom]

i hope to god when you find braelor in game he's just doomguying all the glupshittos

[untold forge]

imagine he is just fighting nonstop, imagine all the goobers in there

[raven brook]

braelor 🤝 xeroc

beating noxus's goons to death

[green prairie]

you find Braelor and he's on some like wacky alien deer creature

[untold forge]

how about just beating noxus to death

[raven brook]

bitch ass noxus wont show up

keeps hiding

[wanton pendant]

'WHERE'S MY HUSBAND!?'
'&%*"%"£&*£%'
'I DON'T SPEAK DUTCH!?'

[untold forge]

ive got a lot of history n stupid shit

[wanton pendant]

Wait, why are you blue?

[split mortar]

The stupid shit ive done is spread the terrarian rot

[raven brook]

I think realistically if it wasnt for the fact the terrarian is gonna free the guy eventually uhh

[long bloom]

i was attacked by a nondescript skeleton

[untold forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191716416513126400/1197963421543571506/yhnome.gif

OH YEAH

[raven brook]

He'd either go insane or more accurately reach a point where re-integrating in society would be

[wanton pendant]

Rookie mistake.

[raven brook]

Difficult

[split mortar]

Dont think anything else

[raven brook]

Like

In a few y ears

[untold forge]

I FORGOT THEY REMOVED GIF PRIVS LMAO

[raven brook]

I think he's mostly not THAT bad yet bcuz

its not been that long

its been less than a year since the yharim vs braestatis fight iirc

[long bloom]

yeah like 6 months ish

[raven brook]

at most around a year

yeah

[green prairie]

pretend its noxus

[raven brook]

@ altraxia

malaysia mention

i like to think that the scrapped dog sprite's scar was made by braelor

[split mortar]

Thought mention was demon for some reason

[raven brook]

kinda hope that the new sprite keeps that detail

assuming it was by braelor

[long bloom]

true
scar is peak

[raven brook]

cuz thats cool

if it wasnt by braelor than keep the scar and just retcon ti to have been made by braelor in the new design

🙂‍↕️

[green prairie]

DoG with a scar that he boasts about is very in character for him

[long bloom]

it would also be cool if he was blind in that eye
not like he needs it dude's got 3 more

[raven brook]

sorry! dog redeisgn is a cyclops now

1 eye only

hes blind

[green prairie]

• one eye
• servant to a greater evil

hes a dark matter

[young socket]

make him red

[obsidian plume]

if dog was a person he'd have those fake scar tattoos on himself

and have that cut eyebrow type of stuff going on

[woeful karma]

kirby mention

[young socket]

meow

[green prairie]

:3c

[noble falcon]

Is Yharim more of a 4chan guy or a Reddit guy

[obsidian plume]

if u look at the subreddit rn, he's definitely a redditor

"Am I the bad guy for forcing a child to commit genocide on the fish people"

and he definitely creates redditor hiveminds honestly

[young socket]

aita (111m) for indoctrinating a child (15f) her whole life and then forced her to genocide a race while i intentionally disctracted her adopted father (523m)

[obsidian plume]

"It's not like THAT..."

[young socket]

the post would then later be reposted on am i the devil

[late veldt]

did they change the design again or are you still talking about the beeg boi

[long bloom]

the giant sprite was scrapped

[split mortar]

Beeg boi got scrapped when hpu left iirc

[late veldt]

hpu left??

[long bloom]

several months ago

[split mortar]

Since it was unfinished and no artists wanted to finish it and didnt like the design

[long bloom]

she still works on vcmm tho

[late veldt]

I see

[split mortar]

Yeah just left calamity other stuff fine

[late veldt]

some shit happen?

[long bloom]

she revived catalyst so that's neat

[long bloom]

probably just burnout if i had to guess

[late veldt]

I snee

catalyst was dead???

[split mortar]

Afaik burnout on cal

[split mortar]

Effectively

[long bloom]

it was in purgatory

[late veldt]

I see

[long bloom]

for literal years

[late veldt]

yeah that makes sense

[long bloom]

[limpid saddle]

hey did you guys see the Malachite 'Tales of legends past' tooltip thing

[split mortar]

Yet to get there

[limpid saddle]

is it cool if i talk about it?

[split mortar]

Yeah i can just not look in this chat

[late veldt]

ok wait so what's the new sprite

[split mortar]

Not made yet

[late veldt]

is it the piblic

I see

unmaede

I shall submit my design made on my phone with Google photos

it will be a red line on a black background

hire me and pay me 2 cents

[long bloom]

> can i talk about it
> doesn't talk about it

[zenith geode]

finally! good weapon design

[limpid saddle]

i mean i thought id get pinged im doing plaguebringer master/death attempts rn

i SNEED that infected remote

[raven brook]

oh malachite has a tooltip?

[late veldt]

why can Dog never get actually resprited what is wrong with him

is he too racist

[raven brook]

post with spoiler tag maybe

[long bloom]

it's in #spoilers somewhere

[raven brook]

oh is it the pbg one

[long bloom]

yeah

[raven brook]

cuz yeah ive seen that one

[late veldt]

he emanates so much CoD lobby energy that everybody around him gets banned

[split mortar]

It a legendary item so yeah

Oh right

Yeah been spoiler

[raven brook]

yeah but not all legendary items got tooltips this upd

[split mortar]

In #spoilers already

[raven brook]

alot of em r still missing

[split mortar]

Ah

[limpid saddle]

but yeah i think its really interesting ||we get to hear the exact words behind the plague's prime directive and see the awakening process||

thats fun

[late veldt]

wait holy shit they're adding lore to calamity?

crazy

[raven brook]

Blossom flxu is probably the most interesting one because it's the first time we ever get direct silva dialogue

[split mortar]

Brainstorms lore implementation is something alright 😭

[raven brook]

though the providence/guardians stuff is also pretty cool

[raven brook]

I mean the tooltips r cool imo

nothing wrong with them

[late veldt]

sunken sea overhaul october guys

[split mortar]

What i mean is that stuff is just randomly missing or shouldnt be in

[late veldt]

you should delay it to this october for the funny

[split mortar]

The lore itself very cool yea

[raven brook]

fair enough yeah the bestiary stuff getting in was a complete accident

😭

[late veldt]

wait it got in????

[raven brook]

all intents and purposes its already been delayed to ??? eventually

devs really don't want to work on it anymore right now

[long bloom]

snuck by

[raven brook]

sunken sea stuff is in th ebacklog

[late veldt]

MOON LORD MOON LORD LORE INJECT IT INTO MY BLOODSTREAM NOW WEHHHHHHHHHHGFHHH

[raven brook]

sunken se aoverhaul literally was a case of sunken cost fallacy which is hilarious to me

out of all updates

[late veldt]

sunken cost overhaul

[raven brook]

sunken cost overhaul truly

Like

after fabsol left the objectively best thing to do

[split mortar]

Wai fuc spoils my b

[raven brook]

would be to just

stop everything

reappproach their plans

reorganize s tuff

[split mortar]

Yea

[raven brook]

but they were too sunk cost fallacy with the amount of progression they had gotten in sso so

[late veldt]

huh I didn't actually expect him to be

[reef wigeon]

I have a question: Is Jared's (Adult Eidolon Wyrm) current redesign the most "faithful" to the canon?

crappy sketch I just made with my question, I want to know your opinions about it

[late veldt]

pillars are weird though

[raven brook]

but eventually yeah they realized "fuck this really dosent work"

which is why brainstorm happened

[raven brook]

Nah

[long bloom]

the current sprite is a placeholder

[raven brook]

The current redesign is not based on the lore in the slightest and is just a sprite hpu had lying around

It was just added because eh why not

It'll b ereplaced with an actual "lore-compliant" design later

[late veldt]

so what the hell actually happens now

[split mortar]

||i mean, how do you explain solar pillar in a satisfying way beyond coincidently finding another pl source, and we knew already auric souls were not immune to ml||

[late veldt]

do they add the fogbound

[raven brook]

which will actually look like a draconic creature for one, much like eidolon wyrms which will also be redesigned

they're gonna review their plans for the future and decide wahts best to do next

we do not know what that is yet

cuz its not been decided

[reef wigeon]

I think there are limitations with the Terraria engine???

[long bloom]

:shrug

[raven brook]

Not really

The reason dog's hpu resprite got scrapped is

Alot

[late veldt]

they should make him less skinny though

[split mortar]

Unfinished, too big, design not liked by anyone else, prob more

[long bloom]

agree

[raven brook]

art team just. not liking the deisgn for one, being too derivative and just kind of a hd verson of the current dog design

the sprite being way too big making an actually good fight hard to design

the sprite being unfinished and none of the other artists wanting to try to finish it when their artstyle is very much distinct from hpu and, the aforementioned they Don't like the Design

[reef wigeon]

Original question aside, what do you think of the sketch?

[agile matrix]

i honestly think DoG’s sprite should look more differenter from their cohort worms

[raven brook]

freezing take

[long bloom]

pretty cool

[raven brook]

subzero take

[late veldt]

I was a big fan of the ethereal wyvern design myself but DoG is too racist to actually. get it

[long bloom]

the what now

[late veldt]

also I do think he should have A Complimentary Color

[long bloom]

are you talking about pintrest creature

[reef wigeon]

Thanks

[agile matrix]

absolute zero but like beyond looking less Funny Worm

[spare pier]

Ok

Giving DoG purple AND pink

[raven brook]

its a cool drawing yeah

[long bloom]

🤯

[raven brook]

nope. fuck you

purple, pink... and BLUE!

[spare pier]

How about

Purple

[agile matrix]

moreso “DoG is a god devouring serpent and should have designs to show this”

[spare pier]

Light purple

And dark purple

[split mortar]

Give dog neon green

[long bloom]

why not light urple

[agile matrix]

DoG gets all of the purples, all of the blues, its all his

[reef wigeon]

Oh yeah and red

[late veldt]

i think the gold did work but also would probably be conflated with auric

[agile matrix]

whats the one lazytown kid

[spare pier]

Devourer or Gods? More like

[late veldt]

which no way in hell his ass is getting

[spare pier]

Devourer or Purples

[long bloom]

oh the iban design

[agile matrix]

“everything is mine mine mine”

[spare pier]

Motherfucker is hogging all the purples

[split mortar]

Would also kill dog

[reef wigeon]

(It's humor, that wouldn't fit)

[late veldt]

yeah

[long bloom]

yeah that was made before auric rejection was a thing

[agile matrix]

which one is that

[spare pier]

That was auric

[late veldt]

I mean I can see like. ate so much god goop that you count but

I see

[spare pier]

Because Auric in old lore was like

[spare pier]

Just an ore

It wasn't really special

[agile matrix]

oh i love this one

[late veldt]

can I say need

[split mortar]

Didnt feel all that gluttonous idk
Doesnt reflect new lore dog at all afaik

[spare pier]

Yeah this one reaaaally doesn't work for new lore

[untold forge]

how dare they :<

[long bloom]

yeah why would you remove the mandibles on the one worm boss that warrants them

[split mortar]

That’s my opinion on it
Really cool but not DoG

[spare pier]

I can't really criticize it fitting old lore because

[agile matrix]

this is Hollow Knight

[spare pier]

What lore?

[untold forge]

no lore

[long bloom]

[untold forge]

vineboom

[late veldt]

yeah I said that

[untold forge]

no lore

[spare pier]

What this doesn't fit is Fabsol's DoG

[agile matrix]

anyways yeah i think DoG should be able to narrow their frame for aerodynamics

[late veldt]

DoG does not get to be ethereal and mystical

[agile matrix]

DoG should be able to adjust his serpent body to either charge down or snap turn

[late veldt]

dog gets to be British and racist

brutish

[split mortar]

What the fuc

[agile matrix]

and slime brained?

[raven brook]

I t hink every single DoG design i've seen ever fails at really capturing the vain aspects of his cahracter

again

its what ive said before

people treat DoG too much like a creature design

and not enough like a character design

[agile matrix]

dudes really full of himself

[late veldt]

I think the hpu one works for that a bit just for being literally massive

[raven brook]

too much Alien Worm, not enough Arrogant Vain Prick

[raven brook]

Nahhh i heavy disagree

[sacred pilot]

I think his armor should look ornate.

[agile matrix]

dude would be covered in ornaments if it didnt get in the way of him Killing People

[sacred pilot]

Like throw in some gold.

[split mortar]

Wat about the pinterest dog

[raven brook]

He st ill would even if it got in his way

[late veldt]

yeah again the wyrm doesn't work because it's way too. not arrogant asshole

[raven brook]

At the very least ill give ibans design this::

[agile matrix]

it looks Cool

[raven brook]

Him covering himself in gold armor is a far better display of his vain attitude than most dog designs i've seen

[reef wigeon]

This is surprisingly similar to the derogatory Spanish word "bruto" (stupid)

[raven brook]

even if it dosen't fit dog otherwise

[long bloom]

pinterest creature..

[agile matrix]

DoG parade float (its the most decadent (it broke ten minutes in from weight issues))

[agile matrix]

from what im understanding, dude wants to aurafarm even if it kills him

loss of aura = failure

[reef wigeon]

Is Lucille still on the Calamity development team?

[raven brook]

he wants to aurafarm because he dosen't think he'll be killed cuz he's too arrogant to even think of that unless its blatantly in his face like with yharim

[spare pier]

Cheese will be the only one to get this, but

When DoG fights

[raven brook]

no, hasnt been in years

[split mortar]

No she left years ago iirc

[spare pier]

I think he's basically just Siegfreid

[magic epoch]

don't be so lazy

[raven brook]

??

[agile matrix]

what game is this reference

[spare pier]

He cares waaaaay more about actually looking cool and putting up a show than actually killing his opponent

[raven brook]

limbus companehh

[spare pier]

Because, really

[agile matrix]

Ah

i know like four limbus characters

[spare pier]

No one can fight him anyways

[raven brook]

Yeah the whole reason you kill dog is because

[spare pier]

I can count on my fingers the amount of people who could actually beat DoG with relative ease

[raven brook]

he did not possibly conceive the concept "hey maybe this guy can kill me actually"

[spare pier]

It's like

[agile matrix]

if he Could wear auric, i think he would solely to coil and crush people

[raven brook]

again. hes homelander. 99% of the people in he world cant do shit to him.

the 1% turns him into a crybaby though

[spare pier]

• Shakidou
• Calamitas
• Yharim
• Exos

[split mortar]

Calamitas
Exos
Yharim
Noxus
Xeroc

And im iffy on cal and exos

[spare pier]

That's it

[split mortar]

Ah right shakidou exists

[agile matrix]

whos the first one

[spare pier]

Not counting Xeroc and Noxus

[late veldt]

Noxus on his way to beat his chud kid again

[split mortar]

God of emptiness

[spare pier]

^

[agile matrix]

… who is that

[split mortar]

Strongest non xeroc god

[spare pier]

Currently not shown anywhere

[split mortar]

Ate dragon of night

[agile matrix]

i know of the WotG boss named similarly

[spare pier]

They're a god I have concepted and want to talk about ingame

But yeah their thing is

Being the strongest god that Isn't Xeroc

[split mortar]

Shakidou vs gojo

Wonder if whatever emptiness powers shakidou gets would bypass gojo

[dusk laurel]

iban confirmed himself that the gold in that design was auric

[agile matrix]

Draedon and his mechanica i think could reasonably kill DoG

Exos as of current cannot

(ignoring stats)

[split mortar]

Exos are four things not solo

But also yeah they can beat dog

Like

[agile matrix]

yeah but DoG could just move left or right at a medium speed

[split mortar]

They rival scal

[agile matrix]

and they wouldnt hit

[split mortar]

Dog is like
Worm

[agile matrix]

wiggle

[split mortar]

Too big to do that

[reef wigeon]

Well, uhmmm, we don't know, we're not supposed to know what they can do

[split mortar]

Fair nuff

[reef wigeon]

The lore buds turned them into the god of emptiness so they wouldn't control space, right?

[late veldt]

yeah why was it changed

[raven brook]

Braelor could probably beat DoG i'd say, though probably ot "with ease"

itd be like

[late veldt]

I thought it was like

physical space not outer space

[raven brook]

almost even fight, with a bit of an advantage towards braelor, imo

[late veldt]

why doesn't braelor just do that then is he stupid

[reef wigeon]

Yes, it was

[raven brook]

i mean

the giant scar on the scrapped dog design

[split mortar]

I think its due to how space is mucj more fundamental to existence then every other domain it felt off

[raven brook]

had to come from somewhere

:p

[late veldt]

I thought that would've been the time he got kidnapped

[raven brook]

"Space" not only was a weird domain in that it was communicated kinda poorly, but also that yeah .i t just felt out of place

[agile matrix]

we just get an unstoppable object, sharpen it, and hold it in front of where DoG charges you down

[raven brook]

LIKE

Caps

If you read the "space" domain you donjt assume

geometric space

for most people

you assume space as in like the cosmos and stuff

[split mortar]

Portals away

[late veldt]

step one violate spacetime

[reef wigeon]

Xeroc literally controls a domain that allows him to travel at the universal speed constant (probably) and create almost everything

[agile matrix]

space, noun

1. cosmos
2. distance between two objects
3. punctuation

[spare pier]

Yeah but it's Xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah but its not the fundamental aspect of space

[spare pier]

What Cheese said is right btw

Space as a domain just felt too fundamental

[late veldt]

that's also not like an earthly thing

[agile matrix]

and the God of Geometry sounds like a nerd, and the God of Distance is just Not It

[raven brook]

Out of place + Pretty vague

[reef wigeon]

Huh, you're right. I momentarily forgot it was space... I'm dumb

[spare pier]

And yeah I think that

[late veldt]

like I mean it's the world soul not the universe soul

[split mortar]

The dragon was of night btw

[spare pier]

Dragon of Night > God of Emptiness works just fine

And infact

Goes nuclearly hard

[raven brook]

yeah i think emptiness works better

[agile matrix]

see naming anything after Emptiness often works

see Noxus WotG

[raven brook]

I also think emptiness can make for a muc hcooler character design than space

but hey. thats juts me. personally

[reef wigeon]

Yeah definitely

[raven brook]

I'm sure you CAN make a cool character design for a geometric space god

[spare pier]

I like this guy as inspiration for Shakidou

[raven brook]

But i cannot picture it in my head like at all

😭

[spare pier]

I really like the idea of Shakidou being like

A shadow

[reef wigeon]

Ramiel

[agile matrix]

i mean i think that and think Abstract Art

[raven brook]

Ok true actually

That could work

[spare pier]

It's a really far departure from everything else while also being fittingly eldritch for a creature who was basically unrivaled for the last entire era

[agile matrix]

like a majority of their body simplified down to a point, and they can adjust it as they please

[agile matrix]

yeah

[spare pier]

And also works for the characterization I want!

[split mortar]

I always thought of shakidou akin to those like negative space faces i think its called? The one where you only see the shadows on a face but no other details but to like all of shakidou

[spare pier]

I have a lot of things I want to tackle with Shakidou but I think a big one I want is

The impact someone like them has on the world

[reef wigeon]

After all, warping space is geometrically in 4D, not 3D, so yeah, I think they would look something like this

[spare pier]

A person who cannot be stopped and who the entire world is at their mercy if they so choose to act

Reflecting, obviously, the strongest people of each era

This is the same for Zeratros, Yharim, and the Terrarian too

[agile matrix]

i am curious: do they manipulate emptiness to make the empty space no longer empty, or do they do something else

[spare pier]

The difference between them is that people know what those want

[young socket]

a character who has control of geometric space, is called the strongest and whose character explores what it means to be the strongest in said world? where have i had that before?

[spare pier]

Shakidou, on the other hand, has almost always kept to themselves

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume the opposite.
They manipulate a space with stuff in it to make it empty.

[spare pier]

No one knew what Shakidou wanted

[wanton pendant]

Basically, I imagine he just has The Hand.

[reef wigeon]

Wait, quantum void

[spare pier]

For all they knew, one day they could just wake up and oops

Half a kingdom is gone

[split mortar]

Ok calamitas

[wanton pendant]

What did Shakidou really want?
A friend, obviously.

[reef wigeon]

Yessss, the problem is that it breaks a law of quantum mechanics whose name I can't remember

[spare pier]

The way I view it, the practical uses are more akin to being able to manipulate and create vacuum

But also

I have no fucking idea how I can explain this, but there's this Touhou character