lore-discussion

[long bloom]

a god is someone who absorbed the auric soul of a dragon

that's the only way

the dragons got the ability to command elements from absorbing shards of the fragmented world soul at some point in pre history

[glacial wolf]

so eventually all the gods will just die out and will fade into fiction?

[long bloom]

gods might be immortal

might not

[glacial wolf]

well i mean
providence sure as hell isnt

[long bloom]

but there will never be another

[long bloom]

i mean like
from aging

[glacial wolf]

yeah and i meant like

dying in general

from anything

i assumed they wer immortal tbf

[long bloom]

then how did yharim kill so many

[glacial wolf]

thats the only difference between a demi god and a god in greek mythos tbf

[glacial wolf]

strength

[long bloom]

calamity doesn't have demigods

[glacial wolf]

there is different types of immortality which is stupid

[glacial wolf]

i mean
A demi god is just a mortal with power that matches a god but lacks immortality

[long bloom]

you're either a god or you're not

[glacial wolf]

still a mortal just
A really really strong one

[long bloom]

yeah still not a thing

the only way to get powers like that is ascending

[latent flower]

i mean

yharim

[glacial wolf]

i mean.. perma frost, calamitas, yharim,

all of em fit the deffinition of a demi god

[long bloom]

powers like that

like

god powers

[glacial wolf]

i mean there are some gods a mortal couldnt possibly even get near to as strong

ie

xeroc

[long bloom]

they do not
the former two are regular people that are just really really good at magic (that theoretically anyone can learn)

[latent flower]

if you define demigod as a person with power that can rival that of a gods then yea calamity is full of them

[long bloom]

and yharim is attuned to an auric dragon

which doesn't make him a demigod

it makes him attuned

[latent flower]

it's just not a canon term

[long bloom]

^

[latent flower]

but like

[glacial wolf]

which is closer to smthn like the archons from genshin than anything which are a weird limbo of immortal but not actually a god but have god like powers

[latent flower]

it can still technically be true

[real silo]

they have nothing connecting them to gods

[long bloom]

yharim doesn't have godlike powers

he's just really strong

he can't command elements or anything

[glacial wolf]

i said which is closer

[glacial wolf]

fair

[latent flower]

i mean the definition of demigod is very loose

[glacial wolf]

perma frost, sorta kinda half can with his ice magic

[latent flower]

it can just mean a strong person that people decided should be considered pretty important

[glacial wolf]

i mean herculeas from greek mythos is a demi god and uhm

he's just a really strong mortal

[latent flower]

yas

[glacial wolf]

i butchered his name

[latent flower]

it's just like not really something worth getting hung up on

[long bloom]

magic is just channeling stuff that's already there
god powers would be like controlling the source

[latent flower]

because it may technically be a valid term but it doesn't really have meaning in calamity

it causes more confusion than it fixes

i tjink

[long bloom]

yeah

[glacial wolf]

perma frost, cal, old duke, empress, and like

maybe polterghast???

would fit demi god

sorta

when i say cal i mean supreme

not clone

[long bloom]

actually with current empress lore she would be a demigod

but that's the only example

and it's being retconned

[real silo]

Being able to control an element doesn't make someone a god

[long bloom]

and again
being really strong ≠ having godlike powers

[glacial wolf]

whats empress becoming

[long bloom]

we dunno

[latent flower]

me

[glacial wolf]

non cannon

just make her non cannon she has no point in being cannon we already have enough cannon characters

make her a light elemental or smthn

[long bloom]

that would be nonsensical

[real silo]

If they didn't ascend using an auric soul, they're not a god

[glacial wolf]

random one off creature with no lore relevance

[real silo]

No in-betweens

No exceptions

[long bloom]

that's like
over half the bosses

make eow non canon

???????

[latent flower]

the solution is adding cthulu

[real silo]

Adding celeri

[long bloom]

killing you

[latent flower]

the feds are after me

[real silo]

So I can style on her with a nohit

[zenith geode]

prime ml postgame superboss where you cant win

[long bloom]

dashless wingless no accessories or weapons malice in a 2x3 box

[real silo]

That's not styling that's turning yourself into a rock

[glacial wolf]

vanila lore: bonjour

[glacial wolf]

no armor

you forgot no armor

[sinful adder]

Hey wait the update is today huh

I think

[raven brook]

ye

[raven brook]

or you can have random one off creatures with no lore relevance because not everything needs to be super important and it's ok to have some of those. plus they flesh out the worldbuilding

like we can have a dead crab iwht mushrooms on it

we can have a big evil eyeball

its okay

[ebon pelican]

I like crabulon, the fight sucks but he funny and I want a mini crabulon

[raven brook]

the fight sucks but he's funny its true

hes one of the only truly silly calamity bosses in my book and i think he has merit just due to that

[ebon pelican]

I think design wise he is my favourite

[split mortar]

I DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT

[split mortar]

Wack take

[agile matrix]

pardon????????????

i cannot make philosophical comment on this but like What

[random mulch]

murdering half of the world's population is pretty bad ngl

[split mortar]

Of fictional people compared to real people

[random mulch]

true

[agile matrix]

i mean yeah

idk hearing "[x] is worse than hitler" is often kinda like hearing "florbo gingus mcshnoodle"

its just a shock value thing

[pulsar ocean]

just make cthulhu fovos' cousin

[raven brook]

eah it was bad but that was laready addressed

comparing to hitler is one thing and its pretty accurate

just saying worse is a bit ehh

[agile matrix]

its Accurate Yeah ("yharim is kinda like hitler" invokes ideas and smart thinking) but its not exactly good to try and say "worse" since people are subjective abt that

[raven brook]

its worse because hitler killed real people

and yharim killed fictional characters

so it ends up just being kinda insensitive and disrespectful

but it wasnt really done out of malice

xzier was just and then realized yeah it was kinda fucked up after we told them

[fast aspen]

im back

[raven brook]

im front

[split mortar]

I wanna be siffrin

[pulsar ocean]

the roaring knight was me

[fast aspen]

btw yahron was yahrim pet?

[pulsar ocean]

no

they were best friends forever

[split mortar]

Yharon is a fully sapient 2K+ year old being

[fast aspen]

and how old is yahrim?

[split mortar]

130ish

[eternal veldt]

Is stars above mod compatible with calamity mod lore since i want to be immersed with the lore of the world

[fast aspen]

hmmm who is the oldest being in calamity?

[split mortar]

The oldest is either noxus or prime moonlord or yharon/first auric dragon
Unless you count the now shattered world soul thats prob number one, idk if it even counts as a being tho

[warm gull]

yharim is around 1350 years old when you start calamity

by the time you kill supreme calamitas, he's canonically around 1750

[split mortar]

[ebon pelican]

300 years pass???

What the fuck?

[warm gull]

700-300 is 400 dude

[ebon pelican]

Shhhhhg it's 11:15 pm

My point still stands, how the fuck does 300 years pass

Do people naturally just live for a good minute?

[split mortar]

😭 no the guys fucking with you…

[ebon pelican]

Yeah I'm gonna have to behead them

[warm gull]

yeah yharim fucks with you the entire game

its pretty obvious in the lore items

[ebon pelican]

Five million gorillas to your home, all with golden pickaxes

Your fibre optic cable is mine

[random mulch]

user daidaichin you will be sent to the auric repulsor box

[warm gull]

the terrarian is just canonically immortal

draedon mentions it in one of his dialogues

[split mortar]

Stinkychungus25 trolls

[ebon pelican]

Dreadon looks funny, he needs a better chair. His posture is terrible

[split mortar]

Just build a new recon drone

[fast aspen]

so player in calamity is on the end like 500 years old?

[wanton pendant]

If you want to, I guess?

[split mortar]

^

[warm gull]

we know they've been around for at least a good few hundred years before the game started, since they know of yharims genocides

which ended a few centures before the game takes place

[fast aspen]

Btw what happend with yahrim?

[wanton pendant]

Went to Dragon Aerie.

[warm gull]

he commited genocides around the world in order to take it over

he also killed all the gods

[ebon pelican]

Ngl the gods deserved it though, the innocents did not obvs

[warm gull]

it took anywhere from 500-1000 years all things considered

[dawn swift]

its true i was there

[split mortar]

No not really

Many gods did

But

Otonilou, agnus, tyrian and all gods that make up the hallowed did not
They were objectively a good influence for the past couple centuries

[wanton pendant]

Found one of the Public Opinion bots Yharim commissioned.

[warm gull]

yharim is basically talos stormcrown

big hunk man with the soul of a dragon/god

took over the whole world with his empire

also a badass

[wanton pendant]

Yells at people...

[ebon pelican]

I just read the tldr and that's what my brain has formed, but yeah I'm a payed agent

[warm gull]

I mean the gods had been ruling the world for tens of thousands of years and the planet was still in horrible condition

yharim was kinda right

even the ones who had good intentions like silva didn't do much, she just got thrown back into the abyss when she tried

[split mortar]

Yharim ignores the nuance, what if a dragon deserved it (flame) what if the gods were good what if the dragon consented or a good person ascended just to keep the dragon soul away from bad people who were gonna get it if they didnt

[ebon pelican]

Btw in the lore do we perma kill yharon? Or nah....

[split mortar]

Nop

If we did yharim would have been in the fight as well as yharon

[ebon pelican]

I'm suprise they made the dragon look super fluffy ngl

[ebon pelican]

In terms of like progression what do we have left after the exo mechs?

[split mortar]

Yharon resprite btw

[warm gull]

we do, his soul fragments into a lot of pieces for us to collect

[split mortar]

Yharim
Noxus
Xeroc

[warm gull]

in this way, we're actually finishing the gods' genocide

its morally grey

[split mortar]

Your morally gay

[ebon pelican]

What the fuck?? He looks so much different from when I played last

[warm gull]

cuz yharon did genocides and we also did genocides

so we dont get to know whos right or wrong

[ebon pelican]

He looked like a chicken nugget with wings

[split mortar]

Its not in the game yet but its what they making yharon look like soon™

[mighty zenith]

i remember... youre

[ebon pelican]

Oh so he is still a chicken nugget

*you're

[dawn swift]

we feed the soul fragments to a suitable vessel to reincarnate him i think

[split mortar]

That sprite is like twice or triple the age of the current iteration of the lore lol

[warm gull]

I remember your grammatical errors

[wanton pendant]

As he has since.... Uh... They added him.

[split mortar]

No

99.9% of yharons soul just teleports to the aerie

[ebon pelican]

The last time I played Calamity was 2020 probably 2019

[split mortar]

We get 0.1% of the soul
Barely anything to yharon

[wanton pendant]

Pre-Apocalypse Era, I see.

[warm gull]

yharon's soul is already unstable from it being split between him and yharim, so when we kill him, it breaks apart

[ebon pelican]

Apocalypse era?

[warm gull]

this is why yharon's song is so tragic

[split mortar]

Pre 22

[wanton pendant]

Actually that was a plague joke.

[ebon pelican]

I've been in the destiny dungeons for 7 years

[warm gull]

I hope you get better soon

my condolences

[ebon pelican]

I wanna play destiny so bad but there is literally nothing to do

It's so cringe

[warm gull]

waiter waiter more AAA game priced dlcs please!

I used to play destiny 2

got it all the way back in the very beginning

when the game itself still cost money

[ebon pelican]

Ancient times

[warm gull]

you did NOT get any compensation for buying the game when they made it free btw

chud ass game

[wanton pendant]

Not even a hat!?

[hallow dove]

Is there a dedicated place where lore is kept? I've been reading the stuff here, and a lot of what's being said isn't mentioned in game, so I'm just wondering where it is from so I can properly educate myself.

[split mortar]

In the pins

Theres a doc that has dev statements as well, but with the horrors of my motivation being as consistent as old lore was i havent added sources to it in a while

[hallow dove]

I'm an obtuse person, so what does the "pins" mean?

Nvm, I found it. Yikes I'm bad at navigation

[fast aspen]

do you tink that yahrim regret genocide?

[rose star]

I believe not, yharim sounds like he'd be like Zod

Although it seems currently yhrim is suffering from a somewhat depression

[split mortar]

No

He regrets making a child do them or hurting his allies
Not the actual genocides itself
If he got sent back in time he would do them again

[eternal veldt]

I know this isn't technically calamity i just wanted to be sure

[young socket]

no

[green prairie]

not on its own! though there are some mods that add custom lore items to try and bridge the gap

[eternal veldt]

Oh nice. Why did they made a comment on how desert scourge is an aquatic creature though?

Now that i think about it i feel bad for killing the scourge

Little dude just wanted to survive

[green prairie]

there's dialogue compatibility with the starfarers! though the mod's other contents aren't made with Calamity lore integration in mind!

[bitter cave]

Yharim... I remember you're genocides....

[sacred pilot]

Canonically the vast majority of boss fights are self defense. Desert Scourge included.

[steel ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/sans-undertales-excited-gif-13422041

[steel ginkgo]

I believe it was originally aquatic but adapted to life in the desert

[long bloom]

no it's a different species

idk how it evolved that fast but it did

[steel ginkgo]

I mean aquatic as in a descriptor, not the same species

It was an aquatic creature, is what I meant

[wanton pendant]

Life, uh, finds a way.

[reef field]

That’s why I’m hoping we get to fight him in Calamity someday.

[woeful hatch]

We will, but it's one of the last things they're gonna add in development

[lucid niche]

In universe, is “x of Cthulhu” referring to an actual being? Or is it just a title given to really strong fleshy guys

[steel ginkgo]

I think the Terraria lore goes into the whole cthulhu thing a whole lot more

[lucid niche]

Yeah but terraria lore is non-canon here right

[steel ginkgo]

They peeled skeleton out of cthulhu or something

[worldly spindle]

Correct

[steel ginkgo]

Idk

Sorry lmao I just like the mod

[worldly spindle]

The Cthulhu title is merely cosmetic in Calamity

[lucid niche]

That makes sense

[worldly spindle]

Monsters such as the eye and brain are born from the bloodshed of Yharim’s crusade

[woeful karma]

#lore-discussion message

[lucid niche]

Oh that’s pretty cool

[woeful karma]

xerox or zeus

[lucid niche]

Zeus think he on the team

The most notable thing that guy did in actual mythology was fuck up some giants

And then he was a bum forever

Also he’s not in cal lol

[woeful karma]

fixed

[lucid niche]

That is also true

[long bloom]

neither zeus nor cthulhu are characters in calamity lore

[lucid niche]

Cthulhu also isn’t in Greek myth

[long bloom]

what.

[worldly spindle]

I didn’t know the mod rewrote existing bestiary entries

[long bloom]

it

doesn't

again
those guys don't exist

you have been severely misinformed

or you're just trolling

xeroc doesn't even have a brother at all

[woeful karma]

cthuhuh 😭

[dusk laurel]

not in the game yet

it was gonna be in today's update but it got pulled a month or two ago

[leaden bridge]

so like they did pull the vanilla bestiary entries they were making we didnt hallucinate that fact

[long bloom]

haguri said they did

and then her and cei argued about it

we do not know the outcome

[dusk laurel]

lets not dwell on that

[long bloom]

i am merely stating what happened

[rose star]

As foreseen

[steel ginkgo]

Oopies wrong one

That's what I wanted

[rose star]

As foretold

[steel ginkgo]

As volun-told

You (🫵) will consume your government mandated Rage buffs

[rose star]

Indeed I'll sir

[eternal veldt]

Terrarians really are just douchebags.

This worm is my fav now. Banger music and forgettable fight.

[sacred pilot]

No???

I mean that the Terrarian is defending themselves.

[eternal veldt]

Ohhhh

Fair enough

[hardy dragon]

is there a canon reason for the player respawning or is it more for gameplay purposes? Me and my friends have been arguing about this for so long I swear

[young socket]

gameplay

[gleaming swallow]

But the reason for killing Anahita and Leviathan? I mean I don't know why we gotta kill them like damn

Anahitas lore is despaired enough

[sacred pilot]

You're defending yourself. Again.

[eternal veldt]

Wait is the terrarian literally just getting jumped constantly, LMAO funny headcannon that the terrarian is just clueless and kept getting jumped to the point he gets powerful everytime he gets jump leading to the point he gets to square up with gods still not understandig why they hate him XD

[young socket]

anahita wants to flood the entire world and lures you into the ocean to kill you

[hardy dragon]

yeah that checks out

[gleaming swallow]

They probably stumble every time they go to somewhere

And the boom big boss comes there

[neat tinsel]

despair or not, she's still an elemental meaning she still wants world domination (unless im reading the lore wrong, wouldnt be the first time)

[gleaming swallow]

Hmmm fair enough

[sacred pilot]

Mods. Kill them.

Thank you.

[neat tinsel]

like i said, could also be reading the lore wrong

but thats what i interpreted it as

[sacred pilot]

Elementals are confusing.

[gleaming swallow]

Whys that?

[eternal veldt]

Happens when you pull up on the wrong block. Imagine this your just a normal everyday dude who gets in the wrong street. You defeated the thugs and sleightly stronger gangs heard about you, they jumped you as you win again. And to the point you are dealing with the mafia without any clue why everyones out to get you XD

[sacred pilot]

Silva was a Nature Elemental prior to becoming a Goddess and according to Cei (head lore writer) she is confirmed to be benevolent and caring.

[gleaming swallow]

Lol

[long bloom]

and that's confusing because?

[sacred pilot]

It contradicts the lore (in the Beastiary which is the only unbiased source we have) of Elementals wanting to expand their domain no matter what.

[gleaming swallow]

So she's like mother nature in a way...huh?

[spare pier]

Yah

Silva wants to spread her domain

...It's already everywhere

[sacred pilot]

Ah.

[neat tinsel]

benevolence and empathy? she better not find my collection of npc prisons then

[sacred pilot]

I may be stupid.

[gleaming swallow]

Bad thing?

[spare pier]

Her domain is Nature

[young socket]

yea silva can still attain that goal without literally killing people

[gleaming swallow]

Ok good thing

[eternal veldt]

Yeah but is that really terrible?

[gleaming swallow]

I mean there's the jungle

[neat tinsel]

did the corruption/crimson happen before or after silva "died"

[eternal veldt]

Wait yeah it kinda is... if her domain is nature she probobly have those hardmode turtle pricks under her command

[gleaming swallow]

And Frick ass Hornets

[neat tinsel]

and moss hornets... yharim, slay this false deity, thank you

[eternal veldt]

Jungle bats

[young socket]

you mean when yharim did it? before

[neat tinsel]

yharim caused the corruption and crimson? i thought that was an old lore thing

[eternal veldt]

Nvm all that i think terrarian is a better god. (Depends on the player)

[gleaming swallow]

Especially them

[neat tinsel]

i sometimes cant keep track of what's in what continuity

[eternal veldt]

Jungle in general is just.... hell. I swear literal hell is easier than that place

[young socket]

i was saying when silva had "died" because yharim wasnt the first person who tried to kill silva

[neat tinsel]

who tried to kill her before?

[young socket]

we dont know

[eternal veldt]

M E

[young socket]

we just know she was in the abyss one other time before

[gleaming swallow]

Absolutely,at least the cragstone biome is somehow doable

[neat tinsel]

seems weird to add that into the lore only to have it seemingly go nowhere

[eternal veldt]

The game is still progressing

[young socket]

we know it happened around two thousand years ago

[neat tinsel]

"seemingly"

[eternal veldt]

Ngl im sad they scrapped the colossal eater of gods sprite concept

[gleaming swallow]

Bruh

They did?

Man

[dusk laurel]

it was just the current design

[eternal veldt]

I saw it on reddit idk though

[dusk laurel]

but bigger

[neat tinsel]

wait how long ago was xeroc absorbing zeratros's soul

[young socket]

800

[mighty zenith]

it was a pain in the ass to work on and nobody really... had any plans for it

[long bloom]

850 years exactly

[eternal veldt]

Yeah but i think it'll be the same size maybe i just saw it in reddit

[mighty zenith]

it was made before a boss fight was conceptualized around it

[neat tinsel]

ah, so someone attempted to kill silva before she ascended

[dusk laurel]

nothing was really lost and also it wouldve been annoying as hell to make a rework for

because it was so big

[young socket]

it wasnt done, not animated, the person who made it left, and didnt do anything unique and none of the current team like it

[mighty zenith]

and now DoG can get a proper redesign

instead of the same except big

[eternal veldt]

Would have been an awsome bossfight where in the first half our camera gets stuck in one place and kinda like undertale we avode massive attacks from DOG. Then for the second half we get eaten and have to fight him from the inside

[eternal veldt]

I still would want him to be yk... L A R G E

[mighty zenith]

yeah but you have to translate that into a terraria mod

this stuff's difficult

[eternal veldt]

Fair enough

[gleaming swallow]

Like that god of war game,Kratos Vs That one titan

[eternal veldt]

Real LOL but ig it's beyond modding

[gleaming swallow]

Kronos

[eternal veldt]

Since it messes with the camera and uhh place

[gleaming swallow]

True

[cosmic zenith]

Definitely not out of forgetfulness

[scenic olive]

your injury is not crusade related

[cosmic zenith]

I'm afraid I'm getting a bit too salty over that

I should tone it down

[scenic olive]

would draedon experiment with slime and made a mech about it

shouldve experimented with slimes instead of bees

[gleaming swallow]

Slimes are flammable, in the the way you make torches and the look of the new slime whip.But it would be so freaking cool if it's a mech boss that's combust itself like a second form❤️‍🩹

[scenic olive]

nanomachine slime with plague mech core

[gleaming swallow]

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hi

[split mortar]

She still an elemental and well even if she did spread her domain thats like
More life
More nature
Oh no the grass density went up by 30%
While anahita is kyoger

[fickle spruce]

Ive always been curious about the lore of both terraira vanilla and calamity

[split mortar]

Good thing we are willing to explain cal lore and that theres a doc in the pins as well if that fits your fancy
Vanilla lore has much less focus put on it then cal lore sadly

[fickle spruce]

I see

Does there happen to be a YouTube video over the calamity lore?

[split mortar]

There are youtube videos but they are not the best
Even the best of ones i know of fall for yharims propaganda skewing the info they present

When yharim is uh

Compared to hitler regularly

Here

[fickle spruce]

I see

Interesting

[young socket]

days since lore discussion has compared yharim to that guy

[wanton pendant]

Look, we gotta meet the quota somehow.

[fickle spruce]

So idk if im just dumb but its kinda confusing

[wanton pendant]

What's confusing?

I preemptively blame Melon.

[fickle spruce]

Theres alot of different dragons and people fusing eith said dragons and then those people fuse with other people and.

Its alot

[wanton pendant]

?
After ascending they don't ascend further.

[robust osprey]

I mean

ravager

technically

kinda

[split mortar]

Auric dragons exist and people can do the ascension ritual to consume the dragons auric soul and become a god, theres no deeper tier to it

Ravager is a outlier and that was not in the same vein as god ascensions but instead a different thing (people sacrificing themselves for necromancy)

[fickle spruce]

Maybe I just need to read it again to fully understand lol

[long bloom]

helpful chart of dragons and gods

[split mortar]

Why is there a cut in the middle it doesnt indicate which side is alive or not

[long bloom]

??

[split mortar]

Not the one between dragons and gods the other one

[long bloom]

oh

[fickle spruce]

Wait so eventually alot of those spots could become bosses in future updates

[long bloom]

idk

[long bloom]

no

most of them are dead

[fickle spruce]

Oh

[split mortar]

Xeroc could but everyone else is either dead or already a boss

[long bloom]

and calamity's not adding more new bosses until yharim

[split mortar]

And calamity doesnt want to add more bloat to the already big boss pool

[fickle spruce]

Fair

[fickle spruce]

Is he a boss currently?

[long bloom]

no

he'll be in the final* update

[split mortar]

xeroc and noxus may come after if the devs still have the energy to do them

[fickle spruce]

That will be a sad day.

[sacred pilot]

Silly question.

We know that most Gods ascended imperfectly.

Like how instead of having the domain of flame, Providence had the domain of ash.

THEORETICALLY.

If someone was to ascend with Yharon's soul.

What would be their domain?

[long bloom]

would depend on the person

the accepted theory for yharim's potential domain would be god of eternity

[split mortar]

God of eternity would be a possibility yeah

[soft flame]

call me an idiot but i thought ravager was an attempt to revive agnus

[long bloom]

you are correct

[robust osprey]

it is

[long bloom]

but the domain changed

so they're technically different gods

[soft flame]

ahh

[split mortar]

Ur not an idiot thats the case

[soft flame]

that explains it then

i was confused

[long bloom]

it should probably be clearer in the chart but idk how

[split mortar]

Probably via necromancy fucking up the soul is my guess and that just happens when domain soul is affected

[split mortar]

Put agnus on the left clearly

[long bloom]

ur a patron u should know the reason

[soft flame]

make another column just for ravager

[long bloom]

[wanton pendant]

Ravager is clearly a trade evolution.

[robust osprey]

LMAO

[long bloom]

if rav had his own column you could call it a...

ravager pillar

[distant willow]

no

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[soft flame]

and the player consumed a fruit made of yharon’s soul…

[wanton pendant]

That's not how as ascension works... Probably.

[robust osprey]

what if I made a fruit made of your soul

what then

[wanton pendant]

Inedible. Known to cause mass hysteria, followed by leg spasms and internal thunderings.

[robust osprey]

ok

eats it

[soft flame]

[feral skiff]

THE HOURS BEFORE CALAMITY UPDATE

[wanton pendant]

The time has come.

[fickle spruce]

Ok after rereading everything a few times. I know understand it

[untold parrot]

why can desert scourge and aquatic scourge fly?

[long bloom]

gameplay

[split mortar]

Desert scourge cant even fly
But yeah fabsolian gameplay

[woeful karma]

Hello, #lore-discussion! The Brainstorm update, along with a whole host of other changes, includes lots and lots of new lore. This includes tweaks for existing lore items, tooltips for new and existing items, tweaked bestiary entries, and 95 rewritten vanilla bestiary entries. If you'd not like to hunt for all this new lore yourself, the Lore Reference Document has been updated!
-# Note: Not all vanilla bestiary entries are in the document. If you want to see why, look at the bestiary entry for Retinazer: "A pair of mechanical eyes built by Draedon for reconnaissance and assassination, Retinazer focuses its energy into firing powerful lasers." Lots of them are nothingburgers like this just made to remove contradictory information from the vanilla bestiary.

In addition, to better serve the lore community as a collated source for official text, the Calamity Lore Document has been remade into the Calamity Lore Reference Document! This document is intended to serve as a complementary sister document to the Introductory Cal Master Doc, which functions as an organized reference for canon in-game lore. As such, the document has been re-formatted to match the style of the Introductory Cal Master Doc, and all extraneous theorizing, summaries, word definitions, and in-jokes have been removed.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgyreCi8fGco8QiFhKHH8rIo_wHplhthdq08ro_SK9o/edit?usp=sharing

[dusk laurel]

octolinggrimm

[worldly spindle]

NEW LORE?????

OMGGGGGG I WANNA PLAY IT

[split mortar]

Oh they did get bestiary rewrite into the update

[woeful karma]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yeah im playing it later then

[dusk laurel]

wait i didnt even realize

so it did get in after all

[woeful karma]

@raven brook could this get pinned to replace the old lore doc pin 🙏

[cosmic zenith]

Outdated smh....

The vanilla bestiary rewrite didn't make it

[split mortar]

Oh

So it didnt

[dusk laurel]

it sounded too good to be true

[cosmic zenith]

It was going to

[dusk laurel]

considering the whole thing last month 😭

[woeful karma]

GRRR ITS STILL IN THE CHANGELOGS ON THE WIKI..

[cosmic zenith]

Hmm, fuck
Lemme correct that

[spare pier]

Is it?

[long bloom]

it's in the game

looking at it rn

[woeful karma]

oh good

[spare pier]

IT IS?????

OH FUCK

[woeful karma]

😭

its been in all the auric betas too??

[long bloom]

can confirm

[dusk laurel]

😭

[split mortar]

HUH

THE FUCKS EIDND

BEIDN

[spare pier]

Ok

It's fineee

[long bloom]

MOON LORD BESTIARY IS REAL

[split mortar]

JUST MADE A SIFFRIN TERRARIAN FOR TMOD LMAO

[spare pier]

Well the major stuff shouldn't really change so

Yeah

It's more the minor entries without much significance that might be completely rewritten

[woeful karma]

icic

well 90% of those arent even on the document so

[wanton pendant]

The entire document has been remade!?
And it's now in orange!?

[spare pier]

So like

Just bear in mind that some stuff might be completely changed in the future

But the actually important shit almost definitely isn't

[long bloom]

👍

[spare pier]

WELL

NOW YOU KNOW!!!!

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[woeful karma]

THERES SO MUCH STUFF I CAN FINALLY TALK ABOUT

[spare pier]

Where do you want to start?

[woeful karma]

well tbh prismatic lacewing bestiary has completely entranced me

[spare pier]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I FORGOT ABOUT EMPRESS

[woeful karma]

you cant keep getting me invested in minor side characters....

[spare pier]

Ok it's fine

The Lore Item doesn't really

Directly contradict anything

[woeful karma]

😭

[spare pier]

See

A big reason as to why we delayed the Bestiary was

Because I wanted to rewrite Empress' Item alongside it

I didn't find enough time for that so

But it's fine

[dusk laurel]

the bestiary...

[woeful karma]

yeah i didnt notice any contradiction when i was reading through everything soo

its finee

[dusk laurel]

also more guardians lore???? 🔥

[woeful karma]

putting eol up next to martians on my wall of minor side characters im obsessed with but will probably never get anything more

[spare pier]

I will be real

I completely forgot those existed

But I'm glad they're there

[dusk laurel]

LOL

[spare pier]

I'm proud of those

[woeful karma]

😭

[spare pier]

I wrote them like

A year and a half ago

[split mortar]

Moonlord stocks rising

[woeful karma]

what years of fish mines does to an update

[dusk laurel]

is this peak writing??? 🔥🖊️

[spare pier]

THAT

THAT IS SOMETHING I'M REALLY FUCKING PROUD OF

I think my favorite lore tooltip I wrote for Brainstorm is Blossom Flux though

I love Blossom Flux

[dusk laurel]

more silva and vernal pass lore 🥹

[woeful karma]

im imagining you had to repeatedly delete "pristine fury" to physically fight off the urge to do a silly name drop

[woeful karma]

its SO peak

[dusk laurel]

also this is different what do you MEAN he ||went there???? it used to be smth along the lines of "i looked at the portal and oh my god i need to get away from this"||

[spare pier]

What

[limpid saddle]

That new calamity main menu screen has so much fucking aura

[woeful karma]

that entry was not changed

[spare pier]

Yeah it wasn't changed

Was Ravager's changed btw?

[woeful karma]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[spare pier]

Oh it did awesome

The edits we made a long time ago made it in then

[dusk laurel]

new storm weaver whisper ⭐

[spare pier]

So one that did make it in

Yep

Weaver

[woeful karma]

also one of the two first canon mentions of chrysadia

i remember when that name was still a secret...

[limpid saddle]

Oh elysian aegis & bloody worm scarf got resprited cool

wait asgards valor my b

i just loaded up my current master death playthrough to check it out

[dusk laurel]

cynosure looks like it got changed

i dont remember it being this long

[woeful karma]

cynosure is unchanged

[spare pier]

I don't think it was

[limpid saddle]

& these new difficulty setting sprites aee incredible wow

[spare pier]

Also brb

[woeful karma]

(all the lore changes are in the doc changelogs btw

[limpid saddle]

& its really funny to watch vanillin continuously gaslight themselves into thinking things have changed

[woeful karma]

:3

[dusk laurel]

i havent reread the lore whispers in like a year okay?? 😭

[limpid saddle]

theres no hating its just a little bit comedic ❤️

[dusk laurel]

😭🔥❓

[limpid saddle]

Now its time for ME to gaslight

[woeful karma]

i love her so much shes so goober

[limpid saddle]

so did signus's get a little update to explicitly mention statis's escape or has that been there for a while

[split mortar]

Omfg

[limpid saddle]

i didnt know he knew how to pretend to be kind

these new visual effects on the lore items for Calamitas & such are very cool though

[spare pier]

WAIT THE EXHUMED ITEMS ALSO MADE IT IN?

[woeful karma]

yharim DESPERATELY offering dog greater and greater bribes in exchange for him not calling cal a slur frame 1

[spare pier]

[woeful karma]

YEAH

[spare pier]

BRO I FORGOT EVERYTHING

[split mortar]

LMAO

[limpid saddle]

I like how it flitters & almost glitches between her yellow & orange & a striking blue

[limpid saddle]

me when i have amnesia

[split mortar]

but it seems the insult fell flat
This feels like a silly jab at the fact that one image exists

[woeful karma]

oh yeah speaking of

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER FOUND DEAD

[dusk laurel]

mhm

||also funny the demons had their own kings||

[split mortar]

Shame

Not really

[limpid saddle]

secret stones? demon king?

[woeful karma]

oh fuck off

they should add four dungeons to calamity that each give you the exact same lore at the end

and you have to complete all of them to fight yharim

[limpid saddle]

yesss

now when does calamitas turn into a worm boss and fight yharim who is now also a worm boss

[dusk laurel]

calamitas combines all of her necromantic constructs into a super sepulcherghasterofgods that has the domain of torch luck

[woeful karma]

sepulcher gaster????????????????????????????

[dusk laurel]

clam den mention pre sso 🔥

[manic coral]

ok so fun fact about the exhumed item stuff

apaprently iw rote initial drafts for them but forgor

and then they got worked on and after that never passed by me again

which i mean

there's nothing here that's wrong

and it's all good for calamitas

it's just funny

I NEVER knew they were finished until I heard they were in the update

I thought theyw ere still WIP

[limpid saddle]

rawdogged the writing process & now we're here

sweet

[manic coral]

ok well at least there's SOMETHING lore related in the update

[woeful karma]

😭 why did no one know anything about this update

[manic coral]

even if it's only a tiny fraction of what was planned

[spare pier]

The Vanilla Bestiary snuck in

[manic coral]

You said you removed it

[spare pier]

And also a few meaningful item tooltips

[manic coral]

[spare pier]

Yes

I thought we had

[manic coral]

Girl

[dusk laurel]

dumb fucks

[spare pier]

ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL

[manic coral]

Fuck it sure why not

[split mortar]

WE GET LORE WOOO

[spare pier]

THE LORELINGS HAVE BEEN FED UNBKNOWEST TO US

[limpid saddle]

i ❤️ poor communication & team cohesion

[spare pier]

No it's not that

[limpid saddle]

lore leak & its NOT his fault?

[spare pier]

Like, we forgot a bunch of the stuff written here because it was done over a year ago

[limpid saddle]

incredible stuff really

[spare pier]

And we were like

"Yeah this is for SSO we'll revise when we're done"

Then we didn't get done

[manic coral]

thank you im rpoud of that one

i KNWO i wrote this

i spent like

[spare pier]

So a bunch of stuff got in and we didn't revise for release because we just

Forgot they even existed

[manic coral]

in my defense

NOBODY told me this stuff was going in

I didn't forget shit

[spare pier]

The Bestiary was an oopsie on some internal programming stuff though

[manic coral]

I remember all of this stuff it's just that nobody bothered to tell me

[spare pier]

Ozz said it was probably because versions kept being merged and shit and the Vanilla Bestiary removal ended up sneaking through in one of those

[manic coral]

Ok so basically we MIGHT have to do some quick hotfix reivsion with a few of these things but

whatever

[spare pier]

Only for the Bestiary pretty sure

And yeah we will do that

[manic coral]

Ok

Do you need immediate help with that?

[spare pier]

Maybe?

It will be me, Stip, Jasper and Tofu

[manic coral]

If you guys cna handle it on your own I will jsut keep going with Calamitas stuff since I've been on a roll with that stuff lately

[woeful karma]

ngl it feels so good to have the lore doc revamp out as well
finally its presentable

[spare pier]

I might call you for some help but it will be minor

[manic coral]

It's been a long time since I've felt motivated enough to write multiple paragraphs a day so

I want to keep up the pace

[spare pier]

I want to get it all done this weekend since it's my final vacation weekend

[manic coral]

Well whatever I gues smy main complains with stuff was all for nothing huh

[tacit scaffold]

whats the lore behind cyrogen?

[limpid saddle]

big cube

made by calamitas

to seal her adoptive dad in

[manic coral]

thats what i enjoy writing abotu her, while her serious stuff is serious, she also has a lot more leeway than anybody else to be a goober

[limpid saddle]

What about Permafrost?

[fast aspen]

Wanna hear my theory about How inanis came into being ?

[wanton pendant]

Prison.

[limpid saddle]

WHO❓ ❓ ❓

[wanton pendant]

We don't know.

[manic coral]

Permafrost doesn't swear so it's not quite as fun

[wanton pendant]

And frankly, we don't want to.

[fast aspen]

Inanis race of gods

[limpid saddle]

I see...

[limpid saddle]

what are you talking about

[manic coral]

permfrost can't call yharim a shitlord calamitas can

[limpid saddle]

we know how Gods started existing & whatever an 'inanis' is wasnt involved

[limpid saddle]

fandom wiki

kill them

[split mortar]

Gods are people who did the ascension ritual on auric dragon souls

[manic coral]

fandom wiki

[split mortar]

Fandom wiki

Not the official one

[manic coral]

there are 0 gods in this image

[warm gull]

the inanis are the children of calamitas and devourer of gods remember

a race of elder gods

[split mortar]

That has been messed and vandalised a trillion times

[limpid saddle]

yeah none of those things are gods

[wanton pendant]

Stop please.

[limpid saddle]

I see...

though wait what about bandit

[woeful karma]

this information has been fact checked by real ilmeran patriots

✅ TRUE

[split mortar]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg heres the official wiki

[limpid saddle]

no fair enough i guess Bandit has alot less dialogue

[manic coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104107043025072172/1451803346204627035/Tumblr_l_681315477265810.gif

[manic coral]

bandit cna swear but not as much

only minor ones

[limpid saddle]

thought that was the secret boss of king of cards for a second

[fast aspen]

Yeah

[spare pier]

Bro I genuinely forgot so much shit was in this update

[limpid saddle]

that is not real

that isnt even old lore

thats just some shit someone made up

[warm gull]

yeah old lore sucked this is peak

[woeful karma]

SHOVEL KNIGHT MENTION

[manic coral]

also hello octo

[spare pier]

Anyways yeah

[manic coral]

the octer

[woeful karma]

helo :3

[limpid saddle]

Gods are Gods & they exist because thats what happens when someone eats an Auric Soul

[spare pier]

What do you guys think is your favorite addition?

[limpid saddle]

WOOOOOOO

[warm gull]

my favorite addition is stohne

[manic coral]

anyways fun to think of how many pillars there used to be

[split mortar]

The lore

[limpid saddle]

I dont know because I don't really know what's in the update yet

[fast aspen]

Why player cant eat auric soul? And become god?

[manic coral]

what auric souls

[spare pier]

I'm asking your favorite addition about THE LORE Melon Gun

[limpid saddle]

because there are no auric souls to eat

[manic coral]

can you find one laying about?

[limpid saddle]

they've all already been eaten

by gods

[split mortar]

No more auric dragons other then yharon who is piss shitingly hard to get the full soul of

[woeful karma]

in terms of lore
prismatic lacewing entry is an option like i said, but so is new rav lore item and of course distortion ml finally being real

[warm gull]

because when we kill yharon his soul shatters into fragments and he dies forever

[wanton pendant]

Good luck finding one.

[limpid saddle]

& became god souls

[split mortar]

Lies

[limpid saddle]

stop gaslighting the newhead

[spare pier]

Finally

Distortion Moon Lord is revealed

[split mortar]

OH YO

[spare pier]

No longer may I accidentally leak that shit

[warm gull]

oh my god were yall still pretending like that wasnt official

😭

[woeful karma]

yeah 😭

[split mortar]

RIGHT YEAH ILL FINALLY BE ABLE TO TALK AND THEORISE WITHOUT KNOWING THE ANSWER

[limpid saddle]

moon lord from the distortion huh

how intriguing

[split mortar]

Dont think it was even a common theory the guy was distortion

[warm gull]

ts why I dont visit lore discussion very much I barely know whats real and what isn't

[wanton pendant]

MOON LORD IS FROM WYOMING!?

[split mortar]

Youre in sscls…

[warm gull]

the only thing I can be confident is is spreading false information

[spare pier]

I think every Lore Discussion regular knew that but it's funny that it's only public now

[split mortar]

Thats probably because almost all are in sscls tbf

[warm gull]

because if I start saying stuff I think is true I will 100% accidentally leak

[limpid saddle]

yeah & i remain exclusive in teto territory

[spare pier]

And because we accidentally said that like

[limpid saddle]

nobody like

[spare pier]

5 times

[limpid saddle]

tells me things

[split mortar]

Oh

[limpid saddle]

nobody says specifically 'oh hey GGG check out this lore drop'

[manic coral]

"we" don't implicatly include me in this bitchass

:/

[split mortar]

Well uh oops thought i did

[spare pier]

I have 5 people in my head

[manic coral]

ok jokes aside though

yes

[warm gull]

implicatly

[limpid saddle]

💔

[manic coral]

various people said it without realizing they shouldnt

[spare pier]

What we DIDN'T SAY

Is his power

Which I think is fire as fuck

[warm gull]

I remember back in the good old days when melongun kept telling me moonlord isnt from distortion

stupid chud

[limpid saddle]

calamity brain(storm)rot

[woeful karma]

finally. we know what that tongue do

[spare pier]

Oh yeah

[split mortar]

When was this cause i onew for like fucking ages atp

[spare pier]

@woeful karma you're missing Malachite

It got a tooltip

[spare pier]

The cosmic behemoth that brought Terraria to its knees 800 years ago, freed from its lunar prison in a weakened state. It had the power to siphon and dominate souls, including those possessed by dragons, permanently wounding them. It hails from an incomprehensible fissure of broken spacetime which leeches energy from our dimension to sustain itself.

[woeful karma]

yeah
there was a lot of things i didnt include because i spent genuinely like 6 hours on this and i didnt want to include things that gave 0 information

[spare pier]

Fair

[spare pier]

The power to siphon and dominate souls

[warm gull]

this was also a pretty common theory afaik

[spare pier]

And then, of course

Every Pillar is a specific Auric Soul he claimed from another Dragon

[warm gull]

or at least not something I was surprised by I'm pretty sure rp fovos had that power for ages

[limpid saddle]

I wonder if the Moon Lord is adjacent to a proto-Devourer then

[manic coral]

I mena yeah why would Zeratros dying matter otherwise

so

[split mortar]

Werent even a theory that ml could fuck with auric souls its confirmed

[manic coral]

made sense to think that

[warm gull]

I also think the pillars being specific domains was something well known

[split mortar]

By this yeah

[limpid saddle]

Something more deadly but less intelligent, cruel but not cunning, & so on

[dusk laurel]

bot...

[limpid saddle]

oh my god GET OUT

[dusk laurel]

nvm

its GONE.

[split mortar]

Them related to domains werent
All we knew was solar was PL and vortex is sorta storm related with traits unrelated to storms as well

[woeful karma]

live vaporization

[spare pier]

Life, Storm, Mind and Light
Stardust, Vortex, Nebula and Light

[dusk laurel]

mind dragon has been revealed...

[woeful karma]

oh wait thats an

interesting implication

[manic coral]

the one i was probably just about to joke about?

[split mortar]

Insert Mind dragon deez nuts joke here

[manic coral]

[woeful karma]

i didnt even consider this but that means souls taken by fovos were salvageable

[warm gull]

melon gun exposed

[manic coral]

oh nvm

[spare pier]

Yeah, he doesn't take them completely

[manic coral]

i was gonna say "gee funny that people figured out how to fuck with auric souls right after this"

[split mortar]

Oh yeah i didnt know back then i was like not even a month into being active 😭

[woeful karma]

ah

[woeful karma]

icic

[limpid saddle]

Wait how did he claim Life & Storms if Silva & Ontonilou exist?

[warm gull]

people definitely had vortex clocked as a vetrasyl pillar

[split mortar]

Also dai why you picking up melonquote like i do dev statement

[spare pier]

Exactly

[woeful karma]

reb just explained

[spare pier]

He took Light and Xeroc exists

[woeful karma]

yeah but light was explicitly stated to be only a fraction

[manic coral]

the enemies DO literally have "storm" in their name and a storm going on in the background tbf

[warm gull]

because instead of using it to prove I'm right, I was proving that you're WRONG

[manic coral]

not at all a lepa in logic

[spare pier]

Now, he can claim an entire soul and that would just straight up kill the dragon

And obviously no one would be able to ascend with it

But for Life, Storm and Light he didn't claim all of it, just a part

[warm gull]

people also had solar clocked as a primlight thing

as for the other two, there wasn't much to go on

[manic coral]

yeah which also isnt a logic leap given the debuff from it is called

[split mortar]

This was dev confirmed

[manic coral]

"Daybroken"

[limpid saddle]

given how many dragons died in the conflict im suprised these specific souls are what he chooses to wield in form of the pillars

[warm gull]

mind dragon was not revealed

[woeful karma]

yeah i was about to say

[warm gull]

life dragon i guess

[woeful karma]

was that not already confirmed

[woeful karma]

the other pillars were destroyed, i assume

[limpid saddle]

Are even the fragments of these just that much greater than whatever else he would have claimed?

[spare pier]

All I know is that the sight of Fovos wielding Primordial Light must've been the single most terrifying thing to see in the history of Terraria

[manic coral]

Made from a fragment of the primordial light auric soul and injured zeratros, so

[spare pier]

"Our king has set out to slay the beast! We await his return with bated breath."

[cosmic zenith]

What a Dreadful figure

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message

[spare pier]

"..."

[manic coral]

quite the fitting name

[spare pier]

"Why is he using his power?"

[woeful karma]

im imagining gwyn with the lightning

[spare pier]

And not only that, but then you see

A FUCKING LEGION

Walking right besides Fovos

[wanton pendant]

'Yeah, I can take him.'
'I CAN'T TAKE HIM!!!'

[spare pier]

And all of them, too, can use Primordial Light

Like

Bro

It's so fucking over

[long bloom]

golem bestiary says the lihzahrds drove their goddess away
hmmm i wonder who that is

[split mortar]

Ml yoinking zeratros like one youtuber i keep on seeing walking around yoinking venemous snakes in the wild with like shorts on

[woeful karma]

[long bloom]

[wanton pendant]

Gollete?

[manic coral]

GOLLETE

[warm gull]

i mean its silva isn't that known

[woeful karma]

no

or at least i dont think it was

[warm gull]

the lizards gave her the life egg I thought

[split mortar]

Fishinggarrete is who im thinking

[limpid saddle]

i imagine him just grasping toward them & ripping out their liver or some shit & eating it while the dragon in question hits the yamcha

[woeful karma]

probably think more siphoning them with his xenomorph tongue like a fucked up gas pump

its the thing that does lifesteal to the terrarian after all

[spare pier]

I love to imagine how Zeratros vs Fovos went because it's like

Such a unique fight to picture

[spring helm]

Fovos upscale

[split mortar]

Zeratros when moonlord has anti sun aura

[spring helm]

Terrarian ypscale

Xeroc upscale

[limpid saddle]

horrifying imagery comes to mind

[spring helm]

Alright that’s all from me see you next update

[split mortar]

Roleplayrot

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also i wonder if the vortex creatures adapted to the current world or if they just
had assault rifles a millennium ago

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xeroc upscale

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One thing I love to imagine is

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Xeroc upscale

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Zeratros coiling around Moon Lord and using its hindclaws to immobilize the arms

And then firing a giant fuck you beam of light right into its face

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like that one turf war in monster hutner with

what was it?

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Honestly I like to think that's where Moon Lord got its head injury from

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Now that we’re on about moon lord, Laura it’s time to settle the debate

Is prime moon lord leggy or tentaclly

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something and rajang

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its literally canon in the game

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i think

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vanilla has answered this question

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Zeratros fired a point blank shot directly onto its face, and Moon Lord, to avoid getting its face blown off, ducks a little bit and instead gets its entire scalp removed

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yeah there's tentacles for moon lord legs

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i kind of cant because i dont really know what zeratros is supposed to look like because i think the last concept art i saw was outdated

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Like Yharon but green.

Source: Dude, trust me.

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Zeratros has never had official concept art

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ml had incredible hair before this encounter

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Ok fandom wiki

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Alright Laura we see the one piece reference

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calamity expansion from 2019

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What?

Bro

When thinking of that fight the only thing I think of

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Zeratros and ml having the dbz beam clash

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https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-anime-destiny-deoxys-m07-anipoke-gif-9644072038477567104

Is this gif

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That's gonna leave a mark.

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chud discussion

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destiny deoxys went hard

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If the average auric dragon really was around Plantera, or hell even Deus level, Zeratros vs Moon Lord really was a dbz fight

Goku fights the big bad while everyone else watches and is too weak to help

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True 😭

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dai that's not public

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Except Goku is getting his shit rocked

So it's like

Goku vs Freeza

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Except goku lost and then the enemy made an army of mini gokus

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No

Except Freeza isn't holding back

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There were some strong ones.
And when the boss is down, they can just swarm them like Pikmin.

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Fym, the solar pillar exists which uses the same power as zeratros

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I meant the "Goku lost" part

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why didnt Zeratros watch ML explode Yharon & go awaken as the legendary Super Saiyan

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It's Goku vs Freeza, except Freeza is not fucking around