lore-discussion

[long bloom]

dodge

[bitter cave]

[green prairie]

(postgame arc where terrarian calamitas and draedon team up to battle Noxus together..........)

[bitter cave]

Cinema

[green prairie]

maybe im a little baby who loves power of friendship endings but itd be so interesting to see Draedon drop the "i dont care about you i care about science" and actually protect Terraria

[gray flame]

That’s why I use a brilliant strategy called, “a fucking ton of bullets” leave no room to dodge.

[long bloom]

well noxus consuming the planet would mean there's not very much left to research

[gray flame]

Draedon doesn’t exactly fight stuff himself though.

[long bloom]

random guy with a pulse rifle vs incomprehensible monstrosity

[green prairie]

so he could just hop in a mech suit (honestly thats what i thought the Exo Mechs would be when they were first teased. i thought he'd be driving that shit around like robotnik)

[gray flame]

I think equipping you with his tech is in his mind him “protecting” Terraria.

[green prairie]

isn't that just kinda the Terrarian?

[long bloom]

true...

[green prairie]

maybe WotG has made me like "npc teams up with player" fights too much

[long bloom]

yeah i don't think that'll be happening

[bitter cave]

Its kinda cool tho

[gray flame]

Also here’s the thing, Draedon can’t really keep up with the player. We beat his best work and harvested its remains for our own technology. I don’t think he really has the capacity to fight Noxus like we do.

[sacred pilot]

Call this shit uhhhh.

The Calamity 4.

[bitter cave]

[sacred pilot]

Terrarian, Calamitas, Draedon and Xeroc.

All vs Noxus.

[green prairie]

i dont think it would be impossible for Draedon to immediately rebuild the Exos (i mean, he literally does doesn't he? i think the rematches are canon)

[bitter cave]

The calamitious 4

Its quite fantastic

[long bloom]

the only explicitly canon refight is scal

[gray flame]

The Exo mechs aren’t strong enough. I’ll bet you we could slaughter them with the equipment we’re bringing to fight Noxus.

[long bloom]

draedon won't build more exos

[sacred pilot]

It's a Yakuza 4 reference.

[worldly spindle]

Draedon don’t care

[green prairie]

im shocked he wouldn't fiddle more with that technology but i think he's too enamored by the scientific potential of the Terrarian to build a machine to kill them

(betting he'll have a camera on the impending Exo Armor)

[long bloom]

the purpose of the exos was to test you

[gray flame]

He doesn’t want to kill us cause he really wants to see what happens in a fight between us and Yharim.

[long bloom]

he did that

mission accomplished

[long bloom]

also this

[gray flame]

He’s in it for the love of the game.

[long bloom]

[green prairie]

im just too draedonpilled i love that stupid asshole

i REALLY wish we got more Calamitas though?? Draedon gets a whole Codebreaker bible to yap about his perspectives on things, i wanna hear HER'S

[bitter cave]

🚆

[sacred pilot]

I think her dialogue will be reworked at some point.

[gray flame]

How long of a speech do you think Yharim will give when we go and meet him? He’s absolutely gonna try and convince us to finish his work after we beat him.

[long bloom]

you might get something in brainstorm (rewritten exhume tooltips)

[green prairie]

👀

[long bloom]

10 hours

[bitter cave]

[bitter cave]

The yapper

[long bloom]

bro's been rehearsing that shit for years

[green prairie]

he's probably gonna give you a faux yes or no prompt. either one ends in you fighting him

[gray flame]

And we have to fight a super strong enraged version if we attack him before he finishes.

[long bloom]

[green prairie]

or maybe he'll keep it brief? yharim strikes me as the type to, at this point, not have much else to say

he's already said his piece, and he knows they know why they're here with him. so why yap more?

[gray flame]

He hasn’t given the closing part of his thesis.

The real problem with the in game lore is we only have Yharim and Draedon’s takes on the events. Someone playing through the game in its entirety using just ingame sources would probably make the assumption that Xeroc is evil and must be stopped. Given that’s not the actual narrative intended, I think there needs to be in game stuff to help the player realize this isn’t the case so when we don’t kill Xeroc (cause we can’t and also shouldn’t) they won’t be confused and disappointed.

[long bloom]

sso please save us

[sacred pilot]

Yes, and the devs want to deal with that.

Unfortunately yeah.

We have to wait till SSO.

Which is like I think 2026 Q3?

That or Q4.

[bitter cave]

November is likely

[green prairie]

later this year from what i gathered from everything i saw

[long bloom]

sso is "we have no idea"

[bitter cave]

Methinks

[long bloom]

the devs are probably delaying it

[bitter cave]

[sacred pilot]

There is probably gonna be an update in between Brainstorm and SSO.

What it will be, idk.

[bitter cave]

Anniversary update prob

[long bloom]

they're way too burnt out from being in fish hell for 2 years

[green prairie]

i wanna hear more from silva honestly. she seems neat and i wanna hear her reasoning for her ascension

[long bloom]

true!

[sacred pilot]

Silva is currently in a cocoon but yeah.

[long bloom]

we can have stuff she's said in the past

[sacred pilot]

SIlva from what I understand is pretty chill and is the only other god besides Xeroc who had a perfect ascension.

[long bloom]

✅

[sacred pilot]

That being the domain of Life.

[green prairie]

i assume she tossed the Terminus into the depths for the sake of the entire freaking world so that no absolute maniac could perform a perfect ascension

[sacred pilot]

I ship Silva and Xeroc.

[green prairie]

i dont ship Xeroc with anyone. but to be fair i dont ship a lot of Calamity characters (except yharim x draedon because its really funny)

[worldly spindle]

doomed yaoi

[gray flame]

Nah, the erotic tension between Xeroc and Yharim can not be ignored

[long bloom]

i ship braelor and statis

[bitter cave]

[green prairie]

have you SEEN how Yharim talks about Draedon. he had thoughts about that robot

[gray flame]

Talk about a bad breakup.

[long bloom]

laugh track plays

[sacred pilot]

What other ships can exist...

I mean we have Yharim x Draedon.

[long bloom]

uhh
profaned polycule

[sacred pilot]

Xeroc x Silva.

I was about to say that.

[green prairie]

my personal headcanon is that Draedon learned a little more about empathy for living things after his Yharim breakup

[sacred pilot]

Providence and her Guardians polycule.

[worldly spindle]

InstaFiz x summoner class

[gray flame]

I ship DoG and 20,000 rounds of depleted uranium.

[long bloom]

[young socket]

photosynthesis is their ship name

[green prairie]

i ship Calamitas and no one because she's a little too distraught to be in a relationship. she deserves time and therapy more than dating

[real silo]

Blood god

[long bloom]

no that's a weapon

[young socket]

kills you

[long bloom]

also she's canonically aroace

[worldly spindle]

Probably for the exact reasons lumi mentioned

[long bloom]

yeag

[green prairie]

oh she is? i didnt realize that was actual canon

[sacred pilot]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAH.

[gray flame]

She could also just be Aroace.

[worldly spindle]

Not my business either way

[real silo]

I love ravager lore

[sacred pilot]

Maybe a like.

Story set one or two decades after the mod's events happen.

Silva's finally out of the cocoon and Xeroc is like.

Chill.

The world's rebuilding.

Yharon's probably locked in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

[green prairie]

or a postgame story where they meet and reflect with each other :3

[sacred pilot]

A story of these two connecting as probably the last two Gods and accepting that change is inevitable.

[long bloom]

xeroc could kill yharon in 4 seconds anyway

[sacred pilot]

Every decade he has to like quickly swat him away.

[real silo]

Agnus is my favorite god character it's not even close

Xeroc is awesome and all but nothing beats john goat

[sacred pilot]

"XEROC!!! I HAVE RETURNED ONCE MORE! AND WITH IT, I BRING YOUR RECKO-"

https://tenor.com/view/xeroc-nameless-deity-gif-1607475809372859489

Fuck embed fail.

[green prairie]

close tie between Yharon and Draedon for me (i misread thought we meant favorites in general)

[sacred pilot]

Eh you get the point.

[real silo]

Neither of those are gods

🥀

[green prairie]

I MISREAD IM SORRYYYYY

[real silo]

The concept of evil flesh monster who used to be a benevolent god just tickles me the right way

[green prairie]

my favorite god is slime god/goozma anyway

[real silo]

I've been obsessed with ravager lore since new lore was still fresh

Early 2023

I've been even more obsessed now that I'm writing a fanfic on it

[sacred pilot]

I like the stuff surrounding the Abyss.

Sunken Sea.

[long bloom]

new lore will be exactly 3 years old in a couple weeks

[sacred pilot]

And Azafure.

Oh and the stuff revolving the big X.

Yes I'm calling Xeroc that.

[green prairie]

I call him the "Roc

or just call him The First God since i like using proper titles :3

[real silo]

Like everything surrounding it is raw asf

[sacred pilot]

What if Amidias was betrayed and locked in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for 8236317 years.

[real silo]

god of sacrifice
ascended by killing the dragon of death
somehow became the god of blood

Was a chill dude then got corrupted into horrible monster

Through no fault of his own

[green prairie]

i do like that a lot of the gods aren't actually horrible people

[sacred pilot]

I said it before but it's heavily implied there were a plenty of immoral Auric Dragons.

Dragon of Flame being one.

[green prairie]

Gluttony was also an asshole iirc

[green prairie]

to be fair is Providence an improvement?

[sacred pilot]

I mean yeah but still.

Providence from what I heard does have a very tragic backstory.

There is reasoning.

Zaelithar from what we know woke up one day and chose violence.

[green prairie]

one day we'll have a mellowed out guy with fire powers. but this is not that day

[green prairie]

it is sad that she hit a point where she thinks to live is to suffer, but i'm not sure if forgoing all attachments and eradicating all life on Terraria is a perfect solution

[cosmic minnow]

First traitor

[green prairie]

speaking of Xeroc, i wonder what his purple incense smelled like? or what it even was

[long bloom]

yharim calls him the traitor almighty

[sacred pilot]

Idk.

Lavender?

[green prairie]

(i actually dont have a sense of smell, so in hindsight that was a very dumb question)

[sacred pilot]

I like to associate pre-ascension Xeroc with blue and post-ascension Xeroc with red.

I know his color is yellow (since that is the color of Primordial Light) but red just works with them so well.

[real silo]

Post ascension xeroc is actually purple

[green prairie]

i associate both of him with gold and white but him getting some pale red (a la old terminus) on him post-ascension would be very cool

[long bloom]

true

[real silo]

this is because hollow technique: purple

[sacred pilot]

Blue is Auric Dragons and red are Gods.

And maybe like.

Green for Terraria and ourple for Distortion.

You get what I am saying?

[long bloom]

auric metal is yellow so i associate auric souls with yellow

[real silo]

my favorite distortion biome

The corruption

[green prairie]

i always associated gods with orange? ironic considering yharim is gold-ish orange but i associate the color with the era

[agile matrix]

why is PrimoLight yellow

[real silo]

The dragon aerie is just the hallow because it's blue

[agile matrix]

why isnt it White

[long bloom]

the deific era is blue imo

[long bloom]

sunlight

[agile matrix]

Sunlight is White

[long bloom]

it appears yellow

[sacred pilot]

I choose blue cause it's the color of the electricity Auric Metal makes.

[long bloom]

strange but ok

[real silo]

Xeroc probably has longass hands

Slender man

[sacred pilot]

Ballas from Warframe but actually likeable.

[long bloom]

anyway for the time periods:
draconic era = orange
gray period
deific era = blue
the crusade = yellow
the calamity (game time) = red

[sacred pilot]

Maybe Deific Era is like.

A pale red.

While The Calamity™ is a blood red.

[green prairie]

this is unrelated to the current discussion, but my new headcanon wrought by my sleep deprived state is that Xeroc sounds like the nostalgia critic

[long bloom]

💀

[real silo]

Xeroc sounds like the lich from adventure time

[sacred pilot]

Lich sounds too malevolent for Xeroc.

[green prairie]

he either has a really spooky sounding voice or he sounds normal as fuck there's no in between

as for Yharim i assume he probably sounds like darth vader

[sacred pilot]

For Yharim he sounds like.

Patrick Seitz to me.

[green prairie]

my brain processed that as patrick stewart for a second

[sacred pilot]

Bruh.

[long bloom]

go bed

[green prairie]

NO i say the best stuff when i havent slept

[sacred pilot]

More specifically his Scorpion voice.

For Braelor he reminds me of Yuri Lowenthal.

[long bloom]

no he'd be yaoi lowenthal

[green prairie]

i know draedon has a canon voice but i always imagine he sounds like the super tactical droids from star wars

[sacred pilot]

I like to imagine he sounds like Samuel Hayden from DOOM.

[split mortar]

Bone mana

[gray flame]

I’m sorry but the phrase “the Calamity” can only make me think of ORANGE!!!!!

[long bloom]

calamity's entire vibe is red

yknow

calamitas

brimstone flames

red

[gray flame]

There’s a different game with a timeframe or event called “The Calamity” where it’s orange.

[sacred pilot]

Project Wingman?

[gray flame]

You bet!

[woeful karma]

pw mention ‼️

[gray flame]

Honestly, while Kings is great, I wanna find a way to put Stained Brutal Calamity in as the music for the final boss fight.

[limpid saddle]

well i always think of red blending into pink/purple for calamity

[pulsar ocean]

how does the red potion taste like

[long bloom]

red

[hoary cape]

Green

[long bloom]

I'm Green.

[pulsar ocean]

i'm old!

[scenic olive]

me when aurum colored metal is called auric

[final kindle]

how does a piggy bank or a safe work?

a void bag makes sense, it's just a pocket dimension

but is that also the exact same for a piggy bank and a safe?

Are they magical, even though they're so cheap?

How does the piggy bank know who's using it?

None of it makes sense

Is it tied to the soul?

[limpid saddle]

i think you're overthinking it

it's just a storage system

[azure tartan]

You’re underthinking it

[final kindle]

so it's non-canon?

[azure tartan]

Yes

[final kindle]

is the Terrarian's inventory also non-canon?

[limpid saddle]

Well no you can carry things

[azure tartan]

In video games generally it isn’t canon

[final kindle]

The story wouldn't make sense without the Terrarian's inventory ability

[split mortar]

Your biased

[final kindle]

I know respawning is obviously non-canon

but inventory?

[limpid saddle]

it's not really an 'ability' it's just carrying things

[final kindle]

ability to store things in a pocket dimension and carry them you mean

[limpid saddle]

you too, can carry around 18 swords if you really wanted to

[limpid saddle]

???

[azure tartan]

Ok so like most video games stories where you have an inventory don’t make sense then according to your logic

It’s exaggerated for gameplay’s sake

[final kindle]

Terrarian can carry like 40 stacks of 9999 cubic feet worth of blocks and none of it is visible

only explanation is pocket dimension

[azure tartan]

The explanation is that it’s a video game

[limpid saddle]

only explanation is you're playing a sandbox adventure rpg

[mighty zenith]

what does it matter, genuinely

[azure tartan]

And they don’t want the video game to be obnoxious to play

[mighty zenith]

what does it change outside of some powerscaling nonsense

[limpid saddle]

& it'd be kind of shit if you could only carry the amount a real human could

[final kindle]

Ok, I'll assume it's non canon, only void bag is canon

[azure tartan]

Even games with more “realistic” inventory systems are insanely unrealistic

[final kindle]

and I'll assume it's tied to the soul

[mighty zenith]

just make up a headcanon for it

it genuinely does not matter

[final kindle]

it does matter

[limpid saddle]

what is it with this soul idea?

do you think the terrarian (you) are the god of efficient storage?

[final kindle]

because the void bag is unique to yourself

[simple tangle]

My headcanon is that the playthrough in universe takes a LOOOT of time n the terrarian and maybe also the npcs gotta carry everything around slowly
Ur inventory is mostly empty during boss fights

[limpid saddle]

probably because YOU carry it around

[final kindle]

if you lose it and get another one you still keep your items

[limpid saddle]

Hell multiplayer isnt even neccesarily canon in the first place

everything about the terrarian is a question mark

[simple tangle]

Youre binding your soul or smth to a pocket dimension so that it recognizes u

Trust

[limpid saddle]

But it is NOT canon that the void bag is bound to their soul or that they are as strong as all the mountains they can hypothetically carry around

[simple tangle]

Everything is headcanon

[final kindle]

bet

[simple tangle]

My next playthrough terrarian's lore is literally just that they realllyyyy like the Brain of Cthulhu

[final kindle]

my headcanon then is that it's tied to the soul, and piggy banks and the safe are also the same way, and all the npcs use those too that's why they also carry items with no visibility

[wanton pendant]

Video game mechanics aren't considered diegetic in most games.
You play too much Undertale.

[wanton pendant]

Real.

[final kindle]

doesn't have to make sense because terraria isn't hard magic anyways so piggy bank even when so stupidly cheap being a pocket dimension and being so normalized in universe makes sense

solves the problem of inventory

[wanton pendant]

Really isn't a problem.

[split mortar]

They wanna do that headcanon its fine its up to them

[raven brook]

boy what the hell boy

whatd i miss

inventory problem???
wuh

[split mortar]

I terrarian posted

[raven brook]

makes sense

okay so someone forgot terraria is a videogame and that game mechanics exist

understood

[pulsar ocean]

hidden inventory arc

[final kindle]

in canon, terraria isn't a 2D world. the canon is very different from the game, so it stays consistent.

if the game 100% adhered to the canon, it would be the most boring painful game ever. A day lasts 24 hours.

[wanton pendant]

That's what we're saying.

[raven brook]

yeah so like

game mechanics exist

not everything has a in-universe lore reason

though if you just wanna make a headcanon that's fine i think

[final kindle]

so I'm asking, is the inventory canon, or is it a QoL non-canon feature?

[limpid saddle]

nice reze pfp cheese

[raven brook]

calling game mechanics "non canon" feels extremely weird but i mean yeah

its

its just a gameplay mechanic

also ty :D

[final kindle]

hp and defense are non-canon

[azure tartan]

.

[final kindle]

damage values etc.

[azure tartan]

.

[final kindle]

combat system

all of it is non-canon

but the weapons, characters, places are all canon

[wanton pendant]

Gameplay mechanic needed for a game in the genre to function.

[azure tartan]

Do you think turned based combat is canon in turn based games?

[split mortar]

Sometimes is like undertale

[wanton pendant]

Same with having 100 health when you start. Health isn't a thing you can just calculate to have exactly 100, it's just meant to represent that you don't die instantly in one punch and so on.

[azure tartan]

Because most of the time it isn’t

[final kindle]

I just said combat systems aren't canon

[final kindle]

I just said that

[azure tartan]

Ok but you think inventory systems are?

[final kindle]

The items exist

[raven brook]

Usually games that have game mechanics be canon either are super meta-focused like undertale yeah or they translate said mechanics into a diagetic in-universe logic like limbus company

calamity is neither of those

[azure tartan]

Gameplay mechanics don’t always need explanations

Or

Bad wording

Uh

[final kindle]

murasama isn't canon

[azure tartan]

In world explanations

[final kindle]

so I think we can say piggy bank, safe, void bag are also non-canon

inventory system as a whole basically

but void bag makes sense

[wanton pendant]

Piggy Bank is real but it's not magic and you have to smash it open to get your money back, obviously.

[raven brook]

I thiiink you're overcomplicating it

[final kindle]

it literally opens up a portal

[raven brook]

you know what is canon though

thats right

gloombo

[wheat walrus]

thukuna!

[limpid saddle]

gambawe gambawe

[azure tartan]

🫧 🐠

[leaden bridge]

the inventory is cnaon its a pocket dimension that draedon made using distortion magic, the terrarian has it after a draeodn eexperiment went wrong which gave everyone in the planet inventories

this is true

[wheat walrus]

dithmentol

[wanton pendant]

I'm reminded that in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, the canon explanation for inventory upgrades is that you just get better at organisation.

[leaden bridge]

yharim says it in the astrageldon lore item

[azure tartan]

Wow! 👍 🤣 💯

[final kindle]

I'll assume piggy bank and safe are their mundane real life equivalents while the void bag is the magic inventory item that opens a portal to a dimension to store items. I feel like this is most consistent. Doesn't matter if the Terrarian does what he does in-game since most of that is non-canon, at least the pace of it. We can think the Terrarian takes years to do the feats he does in the story safely. After all, you can kill EoW with 5 inventory slots, armor and accessories. It's just very inconvenient. But we can assume that's what the Terrarian does and it's pretty consistent. Then the Terrarian can use the void bag after which makes things easier.

[wanton pendant]

I mean, I'd assume the story (to make the most sense) occurs in like, the span of a year.

[final kindle]

"none of it matters"
"it's just a game"
"you're overcomplicating it"

just say y'all hate lore y'all...

[long bloom]

[final kindle]

it can be a decade, none of that is stated since you're writing the story after 1887

[final kindle]

see this image

[split mortar]

The only time limit we know of is yharim dying within a decade after you kill yharon iirc

[long bloom]

yes we. we know

[final kindle]

uhhh... source?

[long bloom]

devs

[split mortar]

-# i traumatised this chat with the image to the point its a very prominent meme here, genuinely surprised it took till me posting it for you to see it

[final kindle]

no it's in the lore doc

I saw it before

[long bloom]

yeah

we helped write it

[final kindle]

cool, props

W doc I love it

[long bloom]

thank

[split mortar]

Yharon takes a decade to rebirth (dev statement)
Yharim no matter what due to age wont see yharon
Yharons rebirth timer only goes on once dying to us

[raven brook]

I'm friends with literally all of the lore writers

[final kindle]

Oh that makes sense

[raven brook]

And i'm also a lore writer for reign of yharim

And i've helped with calamity lore before

and i helped write the doc in pins

[final kindle]

ok bro sorry for saying you hate lore

my bad

[long bloom]

cheese is also calamitas in real life

[raven brook]

😭

[final kindle]

imo this explanation ain't that complicated either

[simple tangle]

Do we got any lore on WarGod

[warm gull]

you're true

[long bloom]

they stole yharon's egg from the aerie

[wanton pendant]

Evil.

[long bloom]

that's it i think

[light linden]

been wondering

is it a hard fact that it's always a decade?

[raven brook]

Not that much but

They seem to be very much just

[wanton pendant]

If you microwave him...

[raven brook]

"Yeah i'm evil i fucking love killing people" type character

Like unlike someone like Yharim or Providence

[wanton pendant]

Give war a chance.

[raven brook]

they don't hide behind some lofty ideals they'rwe

very honest about it

[split mortar]

Since lava speeds it up prob not
Just the normal time within the aerie

[raven brook]

which i cant lie

just that alone already makes him more respectable than those two

even if hes still a evil motherfucker

like, ok

credit where credit is due

ATLEAST he's honest

[light linden]

now I've got an idea

[long bloom]

uh oh

thunder has an idea

[split mortar]

Is god of war gay for god of dogma

[long bloom]

melon i'm going to gun you

[light linden]

but anyways

[languid badge]

I dont know why dont you ask them

[light linden]

xzier

[eager bluff]

and also probably more honorable

[split mortar]

Yharim happened

[languid badge]

just build a time machine

[split mortar]

Why

[long bloom]

?

[raven brook]

I dunno about honorable

but he's honest

[long bloom]

honestable

[raven brook]

in my mind

[eager bluff]

well war god wants to fight right

[raven brook]

god of war is just

[wanton pendant]

I wouldn't call war honourable. It's war.

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-desperado-winds-ofdestruction-sundowner-grin-gif-18169825

[eager bluff]

in my eyes whats the point of fighting someone who cant fight back

[raven brook]

i don't think it's as much about fighting i think he just likes killing people

[eager bluff]

if that is the case then yeah not more honorable

[wanton pendant]

Tell that to the Vikings, or the (very long list).

[raven brook]

if he was the god of combat or fighting i can see him being the honorable warrior type

but he's the god of war, so

[simple tangle]

I have my own hc on wargod cuz Brainstorm is making me think much abt the Crimson

[eager bluff]

hmmm

since its the god of war

[raven brook]

I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE! said god of war to yharim

[eager bluff]

does he like trench warfare

[simple tangle]

Im honestly kinda bored of the God of War archetype just liking war for its own sake

[raven brook]

I mean it's pretty

accurate

[eager bluff]

god of x likes x because they're the god of x

[simple tangle]

Id love seeing a God of War character thats like a Nixon kinda deal

[raven brook]

More so i mean
War is often something that is for its own sake

I also can't think of many characters that fall under that archetype

I guess there's like

ares. from hades

but also tahts like

the actual mythological god

[simple tangle]

Honestly whenever I think about a God of War character that sees war as a means to an end im just like "wait...thats just. The usa"

[sacred pilot]

Congrats you broke down geopolitics to it's barest essence.

This isn't exclusive to the USA this is like.

[raven brook]

character who uses manipulation and propaganda to get what they want

[sacred pilot]

Any country with influence.

[raven brook]

in other words

god of dogma

[sacred pilot]

Though the USA is popular for it.

[raven brook]

god of dogma is the usa. pack it up everyone

we solved calamity lore

flashback to my

[simple tangle]

The USA is popular because its responsible for so so much death and occupation in recent history

[sacred pilot]

Yes well aware.

I live in a country that was invaded by it (the glorious Republic of Iraq)

[simple tangle]

I thought abt God of Dogma as like, a Phyrexia kinda deal. If anyones familiar witj MtG lore

[wanton pendant]

USA stealing Mongolia's whole thing. Rude.

[raven brook]

ythere it is

my funny idea

Though i did get confirmation war wasnt as much dogmas right hand man

as much as he was like

hired muscle basically

but sitll

[simple tangle]

Something I enjoy thinking abt is why somebody would join the side of like EvilGod who does Genocide

[wanton pendant]

They have dental.

[final kindle]

only 2 lgbt characters in mh wokeslop video game mod

[sacred pilot]

Banality of evil ig.

[wanton pendant]

There's like, at least three.

[final kindle]

who's the 3rd?

[sacred pilot]

Calamitas.

She's aroace.

[final kindle]

aro?

[sacred pilot]

Aromantic.

[wanton pendant]

SHE CAN SHOOT GOOD!?

[sacred pilot]

I mean she's a witch who casts projectiles.

She does need a good aim.

[final kindle]

imo doesn't count, I'd say it's the most commonly accepted form of lgbt

literally doesn't matter

so still 2 imo

[wanton pendant]

It's literally LGBT.

I didn't know you were the Gay Guardian who dictates who counts.

[final kindle]

I'm not

and I don't think there's one

so I can have the opinion of aroace being as lgbt as being straight or something

draedon is aroace

[wanton pendant]

Great. Draedon is LGBT.

[final kindle]

no

he's a bot

[random mulch]

bandit is non-binary

[spring fog]

this doesnt make sense

[final kindle]

I guess my question is not what I wanted to ask

[simple tangle]

Perish

[final kindle]

there's like a bajillion non-binary aroace etc etc and that isn't really what I'm asking for

I'm asking trans, gay, les, bi. basically something that would make my grandpa upset at wokeslop

[worldly spindle]

[wanton pendant]

Not very woke of you.

[final kindle]

sorry if that was offensive in any way, that isn't my intention

[simple tangle]

Is this guy for real?

[worldly spindle]

No, I get it

I don’t agree but I understand the confusion

[simple tangle]

Also if the writing team are not cowards theyd make Calamitas transfem but.i digress

[worldly spindle]

I think the full abbreviation as of now is LGBTQIA+. Huge prize for guessing what the “A” stands for.

[zenith geode]

is it......

aristocracy?

[final kindle]

do aroace people genuinely face identity troubles? that's sad

[split mortar]

Being trans in calamity would likely be very different to how it is irl
Looks af the genderchange potion letting that happen within 3 seconds

[zenith geode]

is gender change potion canon

[simple tangle]

See but thats booring

[final kindle]

like I mean people who don't like them

[worldly spindle]

They do

[final kindle]

actually exist?

[wanton pendant]

Alphonse, actually.

[final kindle]

damn

[wanton pendant]

I mean, you're literally discriminating against them.

[worldly spindle]

He’s uneducated, not unwilling

Please let me explain

[final kindle]

I don't see that, my wording was messy then

[reef wigeon]

Did DoG absorb the essence of Providence or not?

[final kindle]

yeah like I didn't know aroace people faced discrimination for example

that's new to me

[split mortar]

If dog did then divine geodes wouldnt exist afaik

[wanton pendant]

You killed her, not DoG.

[worldly spindle]

Your confusion stems from the fact that not feeling attraction doesn’t feel much more “woke” (for a lack of better terms) than being straight, correct?

[final kindle]

the essense of dog scattered as nightmare fuel, darksun fragments and endothermic energy no?

also cosmilite and all those drops

[split mortar]

I think i remember some extreme religious people getting pissed at aroace people existing

[final kindle]

I think this tops being flat earther when it comes to subzero temperature iq

[simple tangle]

A big issue aroace people face is that people don't consider a lack of attraction as something that actually exists

[wanton pendant]

No.

[split mortar]

Possibly
We dunno since theyre getting reworked

[final kindle]

interesting, where did it go? divine essence cannot be created or destroyed

[reef wigeon]

These are non-canon materials, iirc

[final kindle]

oh wow, yeah the rework still hasn't happened

[wanton pendant]

DoG also isn't divine.

[worldly spindle]

While not feeling attraction is something that should be inoffensive, the truth is that aroace people face heavy slander for having something “wrong” with them, to not feel that stuff. In fact, the LGBT space has unfortunately had a history with treating them this way as well.

[final kindle]

it ate a bunch of gods. also isn't being 'divine' subjective?

[split mortar]

Divine in this context means having a god soul

[wanton pendant]

It's not subjective.

[final kindle]

dog ate a bunch of that and put it in the distortion, no?

it's part of the hive mind

[simple tangle]

Divinity in Cal lore very much jas an objective definition

[split mortar]

Still wouldnt make it part of dogs soul

[final kindle]

its soul probably doesn't carry godly essence, or even dog doesn't have a soul at all if it's a puppet

so actually when dog dies, only its vessel does, and all the things it ate are still in the distortion?

[wanton pendant]

He has a personality, I'd assume he has a soul and isn't just an empty puppet.

Like some kind of... Dark Soul.

That someone needs to fill with light.

[final kindle]

good argument but draedon has supiscions of the distortion and everything within it being a hive mind, no?

[wanton pendant]

Not everything.

[final kindle]

dog getting stronger as it eats more gods, is that still canon or is it in the old lore?

[wanton pendant]

I'm sure he mentions that it's most.

[split mortar]

We dont fully know whats up with dog and the hivemind
I imagine dog has a lot of autonomy but is still forced to work for noxus and further its goal but thats just headcanon

[wanton pendant]

He doesn't have Kirby powers if that's what you mean.

[split mortar]

Old lore
Weaver if anything has that

[final kindle]

weaver eats wyverns right

[long bloom]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yeah sky related creatures with sky powers

And has sky powers not distortion powers

When its a distortion creature

[final kindle]

yeah weaver being related to the devourer is also old lore

[split mortar]

Insert cheeses theory here where weaver is a failed dog prototype that broke free or something

[final kindle]

we don't even have SSO and we talking about the distortion... this mod is mega dead 😭

[long bloom]

not necessarily

we dunno

[wanton pendant]

Update Friday by the way.

[final kindle]

no SSO, only stupid dum brain rework

bum update

no hate but let's be real

[split mortar]

And that dog able to eat essence and send it to noxus means weaver can eat essence but without the noxus to give just absorbs the power
Hence why weaver makes dog scared, if it ate gods thats prolly just permanently gone essence for noxus

[long bloom]

it's the biggest update in the mod's history

[final kindle]

huh???

[wanton pendant]

Biggest update ever, by the way.

[long bloom]

by a landslide

[final kindle]

ok I'm excited then

whatever it'll have

[long bloom]

170+ weapons and accessories reworked

[split mortar]

Brainstorm is the biggest ipdate in mods history despite just being sso without the sso parts

[long bloom]

dog is good now

[final kindle]

hopefully better than 1.4.5, I haven't played that yet btw

[long bloom]

updated visuals for calclone, provi, guardians and old duke

[final kindle]

I'm waiting for tmod update, which normally takes months and months

but gotta

vanilla is 0 fun, hot take idc

or ice cold

lukewarm

whatever

[split mortar]

Im not interested in either alone so im waiting for cal to have 1.4.5 to play both

[worldly spindle]

I really am curious as to what made DoG “bad” because I actually found him less annoying than most bosses

[zenith geode]

it does nothing

[long bloom]

he doesn't interact with you at all most of the fight

just fucks off

[soft flame]

just mad boring

[final kindle]

calclone will look like the infernum one?

[long bloom]

no

[split mortar]

Stand still and the guy goes from hype fight to dodging a few lasers every few seconds

[long bloom]

no boss resprites this update

except primordial wyrm i guess

[split mortar]

Barely engages the player

[final kindle]

why? it already looks great

[split mortar]

And is the face of calamity

[worldly spindle]

Yeah that makes sense

[long bloom]

new sprite is waaaay better

[split mortar]

Just gjost leviathan but we put oreo crumbs on it

[final kindle]

we'll see, it probably is

but there's bigger fish to fry

(yharon and dog, it's been years)

[mighty zenith]

oh wait jared is getting his resprite in brainstorm?

i didnt know that

[long bloom]

yharon

[split mortar]

Make ravager this soon please

[final kindle]

it's been YEAAARS

SO MANY YEARS

[mighty zenith]

this is what i want

i dont need new yharon as much as i NEED gorilla ravager

[worldly spindle]

I always found the laser wall to be the toughest part of the fight but… I guess I failed to realize that it’s his only real attack.

[final kindle]

ravager is bottim tier boss

[split mortar]

Its been restarted like 6 times
Dia seems to have made more progress then all others within the time had iirc

[split mortar]

Exactly why it needs the make up

[long bloom]

true

[mighty zenith]

its the second worst boss in the mod imo

its golem but worse

[raven brook]

ravager boss fight sucks which is really unfortunate because agnus is the coolest guy ever and ravagers lore is probably some of the best lore for any of the bosses in the mod atm

[mighty zenith]

yeah

he also looks like a fucking brick

[long bloom]

big e ravager...

[mighty zenith]

i hat ehim

give me cool ravager

[final kindle]

polterghast still looks like a plantera which is trashy a little but idk maybe it's fine...

[wanton pendant]

Found Yharim's alt.

[mighty zenith]

nop

[raven brook]

No it's pretty trashy

It's why it's being redesigned

[mighty zenith]

ghost scissors

[final kindle]

why is infernum a separate mod it makes me wanna do unspeakable things in gta

[raven brook]

Polterhghast's design isn't really one that had much thought put into it

[raven brook]

Becuase it's a fanmade addon

[mighty zenith]

because its a completely different team

[raven brook]

[final kindle]

and that SUCKS

[split mortar]

Fanmade non official addon

[agile matrix]

i am interested: if enough souls went into one terminal amalgamation, could the amalgamation eventually stabilize

[raven brook]

Idk man personally i would not want infernum to be official

I don't think the mods need more difficulty

[final kindle]

I want parts of it

the actually good biomes and stuff

[mighty zenith]

ehhhh

[long bloom]

the abyss is alright i guess

[final kindle]

Not the difficulty or boss AI or laggy visuals

[raven brook]

Isn't the only biome they rework the abyss

[mighty zenith]

im not gonna lie i dont like infernum's world gen at all

[agile matrix]

Infernum i think should be a Baseline for some boss fights but not All

[final kindle]

just the good parts of infernum

[split mortar]

Calamity already has plans for that stuff

[mighty zenith]

the abyss layout is kinda ass

[wanton pendant]

If you bomb the same spot enough, eventually it'll turn into a city.

[agile matrix]

for example, Crabulon looks good but is Really Simple

[final kindle]

saying that for YEARS now

[soft flame]

i personally liked what they did with the profaned stuff yeah

[long bloom]

they just. completely fucking murder layer 2

[agile matrix]

Yharon is hype but also the fight is kinda Bad

[mighty zenith]

profaned temple is pretty cool but it is just a glorified arena

[wanton pendant]

Doesn't fit the lore though.

[raven brook]

Foro 2 years more so

[sacred pilot]

I do really like the way Infernum did the stuff for the Sentinels.

[soft flame]

it gives ‘em purpose

[raven brook]

And it's because of several issues the team went through

[agile matrix]

is there anything wrong with that?

[mighty zenith]

not really

[raven brook]

Fabsol and the nuclear fallout of Fabsol basically

😭

[mighty zenith]

its just a bit boring

[agile matrix]

some places can just be arenas but also look Good

[split mortar]

Yeah and they no longer have as many horrors holding them back

[soft flame]

counterargument: it wasn’t supposed to

[mighty zenith]

its fine

[agile matrix]

insert image of EXE being chained down and looking Unhappy

[sacred pilot]

Namely how Signus patrols the Underworld. Storm Weaver eats Wyverns and Ceaseless Void is locked up in the Dungeon.

[mighty zenith]

my issue is more with the abyss and the jungle thing

[final kindle]

I love the ceaseless void aesthetic they need to straight up copy that into base calamity without wasting time, it literally fits the lore perfectly

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, so that's why it's part of an addon and not the main mod.

[raven brook]

Or they should like not do that becasue copying someone elses work is bad acutally

[split mortar]

Copying would be not good they dont own that
But yeah its great and fits

[final kindle]

it's literally supposed to be sealed in lore and infernum does that

[split mortar]

Yeah

[raven brook]

just let fanmade projects be fanmade projects

[wanton pendant]

Plagiarism? Surely nobody would ever do such a thing.

[mighty zenith]

ok they can do that without. stealing

the idea

[split mortar]

Calamity overhaul

[mighty zenith]

there are many ways you can show sealed ceaseless

[agile matrix]

i Love stealing.

i Love Thievery

if you Hire me not one inch of code will be Mine

it will All be jacked from other mods

[raven brook]

The general idea of having bosses actually be out in the world before you fight them is cool

[wanton pendant]

Like a sign labelled 'Portal to Distortion Time Out Corner.'

[final kindle]

it's not hard to ask

look at hytale

[long bloom]

whar

[raven brook]

But they don't need to be

Exactrly the way infernum does it

[agile matrix]

hytale is to minecraft as hypixel is to minecraft

[final kindle]

simon encourages modders to add cool stuff and fixes and he plans to do a lot of those into the base game

[raven brook]

See thats the thing whenever someone says "fanmade thing should be official!"

[agile matrix]

they're so widely seperated

[raven brook]

usually

the devs of the project

have their own ideas

[mighty zenith]

nintendo hire this man

[raven brook]

If they want to ask a fanmade project to use some of their ideas because they like it.... then they will

[sacred pilot]

TL:DR refer to that one image of Hakita.

[final kindle]

it's justified when the devs don't take absolute ages and years

[agile matrix]

this chat Bores me. there is not enough Jesterly Dancing

[raven brook]

If you have to beg the devs to include fanmade thing officially, it's probably because they don't want to

:sob

[final kindle]

falling behind supposedly fanmade projects

[raven brook]

Did you read anything that was just said

[agile matrix]

see this is because they got Scopecrept

[wanton pendant]

I feel there's a typo here.

[final kindle]

and the fanmade stuff gets to a point where it's better

[raven brook]

The reason all of that happened was becasue of several dev team issues

[agile matrix]

no not really

[raven brook]

Notably, Fabsol

[split mortar]

Almost like they have had the horrors for the past while

[raven brook]

They literally couldn't catch up becasue of him

[mighty zenith]

its not a competition 😭

[sacred pilot]

Did you forget that Terraria players can't read?

[agile matrix]

All Video Gamers can't really read

you gotta show them the thing

[wanton pendant]

Since, you know, Hypixel is a Minecraft Server. Did you mean specifically the person known as Hypixel?

[final kindle]

is it really just cuz of fabsol and the other guy who was also erased from the wiki?

[raven brook]

Which other guy

[mighty zenith]

shayy?

[raven brook]

I have no idea who that is but like

[final kindle]

are there multiple?

[agile matrix]

hytale and hypixel are so different from the base game of minecraft that comparing them is a bit odd

[final kindle]

yeah that one

[raven brook]

Shayy had nothing to do wtih it

[mighty zenith]

they had basically nothing to do with development

[raven brook]

Shayy was just a horrible awful person

Anyways

[wanton pendant]

One of them is quite literally Minecraft.

[long bloom]

shayy didn't do shit for the mod

[split mortar]

Its not terraria players or undertale/deltarune players or any players
People in general

[agile matrix]

Shayy did Bad Things, knows they did Bad Things, and is currently Away

[sacred pilot]

People overestimate Shayy's involvement they just did some writing and did testing.

[agile matrix]

they were quite a public figure

[long bloom]

development

[agile matrix]

the value of a face and name are useful in the world of Social Media

[final kindle]

did DM dokuro leaving also slow down development or no?

[agile matrix]

they're made in minecraft but its not actual minecraft

[long bloom]

what.

[split mortar]

The guy just wanted to leave

[raven brook]

pack it up everyone

[mighty zenith]

anyway this conversation is just

[split mortar]

He left by his own volition

[raven brook]

dm dokuro brought up in an entirely unrelated conversation

its the calamity mod classic

[split mortar]

Also true

[final kindle]

yeah I mean the whole drama that resulted, I'm not blaming dokuro lol

[wanton pendant]

Not many knew they were associated.

[agile matrix]

i mean Fair

[long bloom]

[agile matrix]

its still Important to reference

[sacred pilot]

Calamity mod fans trying not to bring up Dokuro for the 63636362th time.

[agile matrix]

wheres the version where the person is Multifandom Enjoyer

[raven brook]

Fabsol was the literal owner of the mod except he didn't do any actual managing leading to the dev team being a unorganized mess, he also actively shut down any ideas he didn't like, added content to the mod without discussing it with any other developers and refusing to take "no" for an answer (Master + Death, Old Duke, So many things were just added because he wanted to and nobody else did)

[sacred pilot]

He just made a decent soundtrack why do people treat him like he's Jesus.

[raven brook]

The reason development has been so slow, initially, yeah

[mighty zenith]

"multifandom enjoyer" mf thats called being a person

[raven brook]

was mostly beacuse of him

[wanton pendant]

It's a really good soundtrack.

[final kindle]

the drama was massive and I'm wondering if that had a negative effect long term

[raven brook]

After he left the team however there were still issues

Notably

The dev team was an utter mess because of how

[long bloom]

the music is REALLY good

[raven brook]

its been controlled by Fabsol for 10 years

[long bloom]

but yeah people need to get over it

[sacred pilot]

No not really?

[raven brook]

And the dev team hadn't really taken the time to reapproach things

[sacred pilot]

I mean.

[raven brook]

Because they were already in the middle of an update

[final kindle]

so not like fabsol

[raven brook]

sunken sea overhaul, that is

[sacred pilot]

If you're talking about contributions, Dokuro did just music.

[mighty zenith]

yeah no fab may not have done much himself for development but he sucked ass as a leaded

[sacred pilot]

Which is not that big of a deal tbh.

[raven brook]

But eventually they realized that this was largely unsustainable

[mighty zenith]

and whatever he decided to touch usually turned out to be shit

[raven brook]

and that it was making the dev team a unorganzied mess

so

[final kindle]

no I'm talking about the effects of the incidents and drama

[raven brook]

they get all off the non-sso sso content

make it is own update, aka brainstorm

[limpid saddle]

started working on that calamitas clone yomi mod i was talking about

[raven brook]

and now that that burden's lifted

they're reapproaching/reorganizing their plans and dev structure as a whole

[limpid saddle]

not a finished animation but like

[raven brook]

so tl;dr

[split mortar]

Oh yo sick

[limpid saddle]

50% of the way there

[raven brook]

the reason calamity has been such a mess

and hasn't had proper updates for like 2 years

is

1. Fabsol
2. After fabsol got retired, Sunken Sea Cost Fallacy

But now these are both gone

[wanton pendant]

Give her Warlock Punch.

[limpid saddle]

if you guessed that it's gonna be a giant brimstone laser you guessed correctly

[raven brook]

After Brainstorm is out, things will probably speed up

[mighty zenith]

ngl i think people at first really overestimated how much fabsol did and claimed he was responsible for any change they personally didnt like

[raven brook]

as the dev team is reorganizing their structure and reapproaching how they wanna handle updates from now on and whatnot

[final kindle]

ok I hope to see yharim fight before AI takes over and makes 3D terraria and destroys the video game economy or something

[mighty zenith]

and now ppl are underestimating how much he fucked things up

[raven brook]

Fabsol was more like

Well of course he did just make some terrible changes directly

[sacred pilot]

He was behind bosses right?

[raven brook]

but the greater issue was how he was passively ruining the team in the long term

[mighty zenith]

its too much or too little

[raven brook]

Through his lack of direction, communicaton, organization, etc

[mighty zenith]

ignoring the actual problems and either overblowing them or ignoring them

what

[final kindle]

or people simply know fuck about shit (me)

[mighty zenith]

did i even say there

im sorry my brain is turning to mudh

mush

[raven brook]

your brain is storming

you could say .

[mighty zenith]

i dont mean you necessarily

just something i noticed in general

[final kindle]

yeah I'm telling you my experience as a half regular community member

(on reddit and stuff idk)

I'm basically a case study of average calamity fan

[long bloom]

red nation 💔

[final kindle]

I'm not too in and I'm not too out

[mighty zenith]

hell torture

[limpid saddle]

i dont know what that is

[sacred pilot]

Of course the Redditor says this.

[mighty zenith]

i'd really recommend taking anything you hear on reddit that isnt from a dev with a grain of salt

calsub is basically an echo chamber

[final kindle]

I'm there for the art anyways mainly

[mighty zenith]

☹️

[final kindle]

🙂

[mighty zenith]

im gonna have to start purging some of that art cause they're getting freaky and i dont like it

[final kindle]

no

you'd be like trump

or something

a dictator

not cool person

oppressor

I will also find you

and doxx your gta online house

[limpid saddle]

cant believe that took me like an hour and a ahlf though

i really gotta step up my game and stop getting distracted and looking at my phone

[light linden]

huh.

just occured to me, where did yharim live?

[sacred pilot]

Dragon Aerie.

[long bloom]

we dunno

[long bloom]

did

[sacred pilot]

I was about to ask.

Yeah we don't know.

[limpid saddle]

presumably near hell given he

well

got thrown into hell lava

[wanton pendant]

Have you not played Smash Bros?

[limpid saddle]

do you mean the ganondorf smash attack?

[mighty zenith]

its his neutral b right

[final kindle]

whatever places the next plans on killing the next god were the easiest to be at

or something like that

basically mainly azafure

yharim is not a static rock that doesn't move around so yeah

he most definitely lived in Terraria

[wanton pendant]

That's the name of the planet, and he's not an alien, so yeah.

[final kindle]

btw question, since terraria is a planet, the underworld would be smaller than the surface, how much smaller depends on how big terraria actually is with its '5 continents', but do we see a big part of the underworld, all of it west to east or do we only see the part under the heartlands

[long bloom]

the game is an extremely inaccurate representation of the actual world

biomes are not that close together

[final kindle]

obviously, for starters the planet isn't 2D

[final kindle]

hmmm thought they are really

[wanton pendant]

Hell is basically just really big cave.

[split mortar]

The game shows the planet being 3d

[final kindle]

that's true, there's a background

[zenith geode]

like the abyss is way deeper than it is ingame

[split mortar]

Really fucking giant cave like wow how the fuck

[final kindle]

ok so all the spatial scaling is wrong/non-canon

[long bloom]

yeah

it'd have to be

[final kindle]

I thought at least some part of it was somewhat true, but ig not

[split mortar]

If abyss was as deep as it was in game it would be like not even normal irl ocean floor depth iirc

[final kindle]

yeah but "MAGICAL COMPRESSION FORCES"

[wanton pendant]

Actually, on a large world, it would.

Literally just as deep as the ocean floor. Not a trench, the sea floor.

[split mortar]

And its meant to be like based on shit like mariana trench or challengers deep

[split mortar]

Damn

[final kindle]

I feel like it definitely isn't just gravity doing the density work in the abyss, it's actually mainly the fucked up shit altogether in the abyss, from silva and so on and so forth

[split mortar]

Lame if that were true imo

[final kindle]

if it was just gravity, then hell would be so much more hostile than the abyss

(solid rock vs water)

[wanton pendant]

I mean, even at only ocean floor depths, that's still 'die instantly' deep.

Water is heavy.

[final kindle]

it's only 1000 kg/m³ heavy

[split mortar]

Hell has air and stuff its not you being crushed under the rock

[long bloom]

hell isn't underwater

[final kindle]

rock is at least twice that

[long bloom]

and y'know

it's a cave

with a ceiling

[split mortar]

Yeah but you arent having to hold off the rocl yourself

[light linden]

it's also worth mentioning

[final kindle]

a nonsensical one really

[light linden]

we don't know how hell formed

it could be natural

[final kindle]

so the best explanation for all of this is magic stuff woohoo

cuz terraria is not hard magic anyways

[long bloom]

i think ur jumping the shark a bit

[final kindle]

so it's perfect

planetoids orbit by being magically bound to the planet, not by going at high velocity around it

and don't say tidally locked because that doesn't make sense either

[long bloom]

why not

[wanton pendant]

You're forgetting water pressure.

[long bloom]

also in hell the air density would be exactly the same as the surface
it don't give a fuck how deep it is

if anything it'd be lighter bc it's super hot

[final kindle]

ok so rock can float but water can't

that's true actually makes sense

[long bloom]

you can clearly see pillars in the background of hell

[final kindle]

it's a better explanation

[split mortar]

Hell was made by the marshmallow moles with the power of the campfire souls helping them so they would have a safe spot to build hideo games in but then the creature from the creature feature attacked and were erased from history

[long bloom]

🔥 ✍️

[final kindle]

basically you can't magically bind water or liquids into space like you do with planetoids and other stuff

[sacred pilot]

Hideo games?

I knew it.

Hideo Kojima is an Azafurian after all.

[long bloom]

he built azafure actually

[wanton pendant]

You want to know where the LGBT is in Calamity?
Simple.
You, the player, were gay all along.

[final kindle]

that's why when you put water on the planetoid it slides down to terraria, not stick on the planetoid, but you can say that's non-canon, and to that I say shut up

[manic coral]

he owns the walmart there

[wanton pendant]

Gravity.

[long bloom]

planetoids are specifically in low orbit
there'd still be some gravitational pull to the planet

[final kindle]

floating islands

[wanton pendant]

Magic.

[long bloom]

clouds

[light linden]

hi cei

[long bloom]

magic clouds

made by dragons or something

[final kindle]

planetoids are also partially magic

[long bloom]

no??

[final kindle]

but mainly gravity

[long bloom]

they're completely natural

stated by draedon

[limpid saddle]

hi cei

[final kindle]

they can't be because space between them doesn't change even though they orbit at slightly different heights

[long bloom]

it's a video game bruh

[final kindle]

there has to be some magic at least

[dusk laurel]

no

[long bloom]

they're static because there's no moving blocks in terraria

[light linden]

if you want the actual reason

making those things move would be nightmarish coding wise

[long bloom]

and completely unnecessary

[light linden]

it'd also likely cause an immense amount of lag

[final kindle]

not necessarily as much as floating islands but at least some

[final kindle]

that's obviously true. it's also consistent with lots of the spatial scales being off in-game

so fine, planetoids orbit with gravity

[final kindle]

immersion

[long bloom]

2d block game

[final kindle]

the much better move is to move calamity into a 3D game instead like hytale

I wonder how much workforce that would take

[split mortar]

Theres a mc calamity mod iirc

[dusk laurel]

that sounds hellish

[languid badge]

theres also a hytale calamity in the works

[final kindle]

would it take more than a million dollars of paid labor?

[long bloom]

alright spriters time to learn a completely new artstyle

hell torture

[dusk laurel]

youre basically asking for the entire devteam to learn a completely new way of programming or creating their art in a completely different environment and game

also they are all volunteers

[split mortar]

Wwould take an entirely different dev team

[wanton pendant]

Easily.

[dusk laurel]

okay thats a stretch

but still

thats way more effort than necessary

[wanton pendant]

Video game development is expensive.

[dusk laurel]

youre expensive smh

[final kindle]

no, I'm not asking them to do that, I'm saying it's objectively a better move to have calamity on a 3D game engine instead of being limited to an old 2D game.

Basically if we had a button to magically do it, it's better to click that button, is what I'm saying.

basically grass is green

[wanton pendant]

Sending you to to the borderlands to man the forts against the Huns.

[dusk laurel]

age old argument of whether 2d or 3d games are better

[final kindle]

3D is better for games with actual humanoids in them

[raven brook]

hello lore chat