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#lore-discussion
raven brook
Yknow
This guy would b e perfect for a post moon lord calamity dungeon enemy
Like completely so
split mortar
Remove her absurd mana and calamitas is literally just a normal person she has no physical power different to a irl person
zenith geode
with those stats
raven brook
Obviously not that exact sprite or anything and itd probably have different behavior or something
But like
zenith geode
keep its stats
raven brook
Not only would it make sense with the skull > giant skull > dragon skull transition
but
yknow
dragons
dungeon
calamity
it like fits so well
split mortar
Damn
raven brook
they havent been in the game for years
theyre one of those old console exclusive enemies
like arch wyverns (or orcas, until recently
split mortar
Arch demons as well
raven brook
but yeah they fit super well with calamity lore and would be a really cool dungeon post ml enemy
the dungeons e ntire thing in calamity lore is like the dragon cult who probalby was trying to ressurect dragons and stuff
so
raven brook
jumpscare
scenic olive
She can fly like lunatic cultists can obviously
you know the way calamitas fly vs lunatic cultist fly looks very different
lunatic basically just teleports around while maintaining hover
but calamitas actually can track you around when moving
raven brook
Don't know why they had so much dragon (enemy) variants but
the dragon skull atleast would make alot of sense n the context of calamity itd be cool if it was added as a post ml dungeon guy
since
post ml notably Lacks Guys
zenith geode
dragon hornet and snatcher for postml jungle
earnest depot
Would be cool yeah
raven brook
yerap. every single post ml enemy is now dragon (thing) and god (thing)
with the exception of yharim (thing) of course
zenith geode
waiter, waiter! more shit shoved into the jungle please!
earnest depot
Responded to the wrong thing sighs
raven brook
great page
very detailed
thank yo uterraria wiki
There truly is an exclusive dragon hornet variant
earnest depot
Dkdjsk
scenic olive
can yharim drown
raven brook
I also had a cool suggestion for a post ml timeless shores enemy which definitoely should become real yep mhm which was a zombified desert scourge that didnt escape from the incineration
as just like
a regular enemy
raven brook
can yharim drown<:XD:936106628833488906>
I mean he's like a normal human biologically speaking yeah he can
earnest depot
I mean they tried
scenic olive
but how long can he stay
earnest depot
From memory they notably tried to drown him in lava but he went boss mode
raven brook
probbly has strong lungs or something
long bloom
From memory they notably tried to drown him in lava but he went boss mode
he almost died
scenic olive
does he have flashback if i drown him in lava
earnest depot
he almost died
Yeah he went boss mode and lived
young socket
Don't know why they had so much dragon (enemy) variants but
there was also the dragon armour
raven brook
From memory they notably tried to drown him in lava but he went boss mode
Yeah the evil god cult of evil gods tried to drown him alongside yharom's egg for uhhh whats the word
manic coral
Yeah he went boss mode and lived
unfortunately for everybody else
scenic olive
fills the armor with honey
raven brook
anyways a word that'sw vaguely like betrayal but not really.
young socket
disobedience
raven brook
they tried to do that but then yharon saved him and later he'd comwe back to kill those guys
scenic olive
he will now drown from honey
earnest depot
unfortunately for everybody else
Very unfortunate for literally everything else
young socket
treason maybe?
earnest depot
If yharim was tossed in water he would simply not drown
raven brook
Very unfortunate for literally everything else
Good things that came out of Yharim
- Uhhh the evil ass god cult got destroyed
- Uhhh
Frankly ok
i'd take god of war over yharim
because atleast the bgod of war is honest
young socket
draedons introduction to the world essentially progressed civilisation by a century
he also did like
kill people with yharim
raven brook
Like yeah he kills people for fun but he's not trying to say he's NOT evil
young socket
but yknow at least we have dishwashers now
zenith geode
war can describe his existence in 3 words, therefore he is based
yharim needs more than 3 words and so is cringe
scenic olive
just need to preform a light surgery on him
with my scissors
that can open rifts in space
earnest depot
war can describe his existence in 3 words, therefore he is based
yharim needs mo...
Do you think someone portrayed yharim as the soyjack
raven brook
statis depicted braelor as the chad and yharim as the soyjak
earnest depot
Awesome
earnest depot
Good things that came out of Yharim
- Uhhh the evil ass god cult got destroyed
...
Incredible work cant wait till we can obliterate him
raven brook
war can describe his existence in 3 words, therefore he is based
yharim needs mo...
"I kill people." vs "I kill for it is needed, to bring justice upon the fallen, selfless beings who guarded these lands, i am not the villain in this story, i do what i do because i have to bla bla bla bla shut uppp"
earnest depot
From the way yharim speaks in the lore drops he seems like a dweeb no one cares that destiny is for the weak
light linden
unfortunately for everybody else
hi cei
scenic olive
is yharim stronger than the terrarian
split mortar
Terrarian
split mortar
is yharim stronger than the terrarian
I think roughly equal just by going in game gear by the time you kill exos and defeat scal
light linden
probably
the terrarian is also extremely good at taking what makes others strong and using it for themselves
so it's like
earnest depot
is yharim stronger than the terrarian
Afaik at least in his current state i think the terrarian is getting close to beating him
split mortar
Yharim isnt weak due to age
light linden
so it's like
iron man vs thor
earnest depot
Yharim isnt weak due to age
I meant more like mental and physical toll due to war
Hes obviously a strong guy i doubt he's the type of guy to deal with old age
worldly spindle
I find it fucked up that he became jaded from so much war and has some regrets but still believes his cause is just
scenic olive
if Yharim lose all 5 senses i can defeat him ahh argument
raven brook
I find it fucked up that he became jaded from so much war and has some regrets b...
Yeah
It really is
John Delusional
scenic olive
didnt that man can throw a punch that explodes everything in the room
earnest depot
Who wins
Yharim no armor no limbs blindfolded
Or
A slime
split mortar
Probably a slime??
raven brook
Yharim as a villain is a representation of getting so obsessed with a idea(Notably the Past since Calamity is all about the theme of Change) that you refuse to ever see it any other way or to consider changing what you believe in
raven brook
Probably a slime??
I mean. does he have the auric armor on.
worldly spindle
If his goal really is for us to usurp his power then that’s so funny.
That is so damn Shin Megami Tensei V coded
scenic olive
what bro finna do, eat the slime?
raven brook
Because if so my money is on yharim
split mortar
Who wins
Yharim no armor no limbs blindfolded
Or
A slime
Cheese got hit by the reading comprehension devil so sad
earnest depot
Skdjshd
earnest depot
My condolences cheese
raven brook
ok yes then my money is on the slime
long bloom
no
scenic olive
cause unnecessary suffering
scenic olive
pulsar ocean
probbly has strong lungs or something
some kind of.... iron lung
worldly spindle
bro
raven brook
I still find it really funny how xeroc being the "true villain" of calamity falls apart the moment you think about it in the slightest, like. i dont blame people for not deducing/knowing some stuff with only ingame sources, as theres alot of stuff not actually in the mod yet
but with xerco it's like
split mortar
Im stealing the lungs of the people in this chat
raven brook
XEROC CRIMES
killed 1 guy for morally ambiguous reasons
YHARIM CRIMES
wikipedia geneva convention page
scenic olive
is xeroc the real bum here
pulsar ocean
why did he do nothing while yharim was slaughtering half the world population is he evil
split mortar
YHARIM CRIMES
wikipedia geneva convention page
scenic olive
why did he do nothing while yharim was slaughtering half the world population is...
does that count toward bum behavior
pulsar ocean
is geneva an actual place
woeful karma
yes??
scenic olive
what is xeroc even doing
earnest depot
Being sleepy
scenic olive
training arc
limpid saddle
calamitas clone is such a cool character
i've been working on a your only move is hustle mod with some guy & the experience i've gained is making me think of making a calamitas clone yomi mod
even though there'd be absolutely zero fucking audience for it AT ALL
feral skiff
bro there are 8 million people subscribed to the calamity mod on the steam workshop
and 240,000 members in this specific discord
what are you TALKING ABOUT of course there would be an audience!
limpid saddle
what are you TALKING ABOUT of course there would be an audience!
Oh I mean because it's Calamitas Clone
A niche derivative of a beloved character
woeful karma
calamitas clone is such a cool character
SO TRUE
dusk laurel
worldly spindle
XEROC CRIMES
killed 1 guy for morally ambiguous reasons
Zeratros? Dunno if "guy" also refers to dragons in this context
raven brook
yeah
worldly spindle
He may not be the most outlandish figure in lore but I still think he was a weirdo for that
long bloom
we dunno why they did it
raven brook
There's alot of evidence pointing to him actually having done it for pretty damn good reasons
worldly spindle
But I guess that hinges on what his life as a god even looked like
long bloom
also that
long bloom
raven brook
That ml had an ability that made it able to Permanently kill dragons
like No Rebirth is gonna Fix This type of killing
And ML appeared out of complete nowhere
0 indication of any being like it exsited before
it just showed up, almost destroyed the world and annihilated a large amount of the dragon population
and this was WITH zeratros's power, the strongest of all dragons
Now, we know Zeratros was dying by the end of the fight
and that Xeroc absorbed his soul during that
..,,, isn't it entirely possible Xeroc did it because if Zeratros had died there, his power would've been gone for good?
And can you imagine if something like this
happened again
but *without * Zeratros's power
if even with his power they only barely won
we know Xeroc has spent a significant amount of time just, training
Why would he be training if he was laready the strongest being on earth the moment he absorbed Zeratros's soul
Clearly it's not out of a desire to dominate the world or something
Cuz if he was, well for one he could've already done it immediately, secondly, if that was his goal, he's clearly not acting on it
Anyways i think it's more likely that Xeroc has done all of this in fear of ML 2 happening and has spent god knows how long training to make sure he'd be able to take on such thing
Specially now that there's No dragons
As for why he completely disappeared idk he's probably in the distortion doomguying noxus's hive mind
worldly spindle
can he rescue statis and braelor while he's at it please
raven brook
statis is already out its ok
braelor's still stuck in there though yeah
they're doomguying noxus's hive mind together. trust
worldly spindle
That's super interesting tho
limpid saddle
can he rescue statis and braelor while he's at it please
he's a bum
worldly spindle
One mortal, sworn to the service of the Dragons, rose in determination to save their virtuous King.
So this means there might be truth to this after all
light linden
reminder to eat something if y'all haven't today
dusk laurel
he's a bum
top 3 lore discussion vocabulary:
fraud
bum
potential
worldly spindle
Gah, now I'm even more confused on the Boss Rush subplot
simple tangle
fraud: dog
bum: xeroc
potential: ???
split mortar
It's *all* but confirmed and basically is soft socnfirmed
Ima be honest genuinely why would zeratros dying be a concern if it werent the case
And why would yharim say the power would be gone forever if that was a lie it has huge implications and also is a topic yharim has a trillion reasons to not say the truth and say zeratros would have come back if not for xeroc
Like its as confirmed as noxus existing as far as i know
young socket
fraud: dog
bum: xeroc
potential: ???
statis
dusk laurel
fraud: dog
bum: xeroc
potential: ???
people here will call anything a fraud if they deem it even remotely weak or detached from the main plot or mysterious
dog just so happens to be the main target of this
and half the time its because people compare it to literally everything we know thats stronger than it
simple tangle
ok but dog is a fraud
split mortar
DoG is just the biggest example of a character having a big ego
Dog is top 10 character strong but acts like he is top 5
I wouldnt say being able to do 99.999% of what you say you can do is fraudulent
dusk laurel
yeah its basically this
split mortar
DoG is just the biggest example of a character having a big ego
Dog is top 10 ch...
Yes the 0.001% dog cant do can seem hella embarrassing (more so covering noxus then ego it seems anyways) but this is still a giant cosmic worm that will tear a city apart overnight if it wants to
simple tangle
0 relevant confirmed kills
1 implied kill in gfb
light linden
ah
raven brook
Gah, now I'm even more confused on the Boss Rush subplot
Wdym by that?
raven brook
people here will call anything a fraud if they deem it even remotely weak or det...
ok but to be fair it's funny to do it with dog specifically because of his characterization
dusk laurel
"i made ceaseless void" no you did not!!!!
your ass cannot make a stable portal last more than a minute
split mortar
ok but to be fair it's funny to do it with dog specifically because of his cha...
Makes you speedrun every fnaf game
dusk laurel
💔
split mortar
specifically roblox highschool
💔 i don even know what that is but the name makes me wanna rather explode
worldly spindle
To try and get us on his side before Yharim does?
split mortar
Boss rush is a test on us
light linden
To try and get us on his side before Yharim does?
it's a test
raven brook
He's pretty friendly in his speech and reminiscing of olden times and whatnot
light linden
possibly to see if we're up to the task of fighting noxus
worldly spindle
I’m starting to surmise that Xeroc has hella beef with the Distortion
raven brook
Xeroc is really funny because he's like the oldest character in the world besides the elementals
light linden
he likely sees the threat noxus poses
raven brook
He hasn't seemingly interacted with society properly in extremely long
light linden
Xeroc is really funny because he's like the oldest character in the world beside...
yharon
light linden
he likely sees the threat noxus poses
he might not be able to use his powers in the distortion though
since there's presumably no sun
raven brook
But atleast Yharon has actually interacted with society at large
Xeroc has probably just been training and fighting distortion shitlings this entire time, when Noxus is finally dead and he can just chill for a bit again he's gonna discover "cellphones" and "video games" and be utterly shocked
worldly spindle
That’s super interesting
dusk laurel
xeroc come back to terraria you need to try this thing out its called a cigarette
raven brook
It's kinda sad honestly literally everyone he ever called a friend is probably dead by now, the only one remaining is Yharon, who now vehemently hates him
And he hasn't really given himself the time to actually make connections again
split mortar
I’m starting to surmise that Xeroc has hella beef with the Distortion
Well i mean yeah
Its thte fucked up evil dimension it seems
Terrarias guardian gonna not like the evil dimension with the horrors fucking with the planet
raven brook
Cuz he's been probably doing nothing but doomguying in the distortion
Alot of the time is ee ppl bring up
xeroc hasnt done anything about yharim
or providence
or any of those
and i think that's intentional
I think that's an actual Character Flaw of his
worldly spindle
Yharim has already acknowledged the threat that the Distortion proposes- something much bigger than his war on the gods.
But Xeroc, the first “sinner”, is using his godly power to combat this evil at large.
Holy shit he really is the good guy
raven brook
He is way too dedicated to fighting off the Horrors of the distortion
And while it's a noble cause
His paranoia regarding it and the idea he's the only one who can fight it off
Means he's kinda neglecting prote cting the overworld from, well
threats that come fro mit
the crusade, providence, etc
I think Xeroc is a good guy, who has good intentions and is trying to do good
But who also is ultimately still a flawed person
After all
just like all other gods
despite being a "god", he's still human
thick slate
xeroc come back to terraria you need to try this thing out its called a cigarett...
cigrete
light linden
I still think xeroc isn't good because he basically started a near genocide
raven brook
Was it really his fault though
I really don't blame him for it like at all
I think what he did, assuming the theory we have is correct
Was basically the best he could have done
And he really isn't to blame for the genocide imo
what he is to blame for
Is for his neglect
Which imo is not because he's evil, but because he's . tunnel visioned
thick slate
did he just let the other dragons get slimed
worldly spindle
So you’re saying he should’ve been there to protect his fellow man from Yharim’s crusade?
light linden
probably
raven brook
Yeah i think ideally Xeroc should've done something about things like the crusade or the genocide of dragons
But he's probably too focsued on the Distortion to do so
Cuz, for one
well yes the distortion is technically a bigger threat than all of those and he's the most powerful being
on terraria
so in his eyes, he's the only one who can even really fight back against it
But at the same time
I don't think it would hurt to also help out terraria itself
But you also have to consider
how much pressure the guy is probably feeling
simple tangle
i think God should have stopped Super Hitler
young socket
xeroc is too focused on being the protector of outside threats that theyve completely forgotten that bad people exist too that have harmed the world
raven brook
imagine if xeroc descended from the Sun to kill yharim
this would just
"prove yharims point" for many people
thick slate
i think God should have stopped Super Hitler
be shimmered party girl
thick slate
all the shimmered variants look 80% betyer
raven brook
I think Xeroc's approach right now isn't the best assuming all of the stuff i'm saying is correct
But also
It's more complicated than just
Xeroc go kill yharim
Xeroc go kill providence
worldly spindle
Where is Xeroc’s obsession with the Distortion stated anyway?
raven brook
well i mean fovos came out of nowhere and almost destroyed everything
the distortion is coming out of nowhere and threatening to destroy everything
simple tangle
i think xeroc was just sleepy
young socket
something something why must our future forever haunt us
dusk laurel
theres also a chance he knew about it since the dragon cult is a related organization to the ancient dragon monks and well ceaseless void has been around since the middle of the dragon era
raven brook
that too yeah
raven brook
something something why must our future forever haunt us
This chud is sooo paranoid
hes traumatizeddd he has ptsdddd
fovos fucked this guy up
simple tangle
xeroc dont waste ur time with noxus hes clearly such a potential man
thick slate
can xeroc and noxus just kiss
worldly spindle
Wouldn’t it be the most badass thing if the Yharim fight ended with us knocking sense into him and then he proceeds to help us with taking down the Distortion
thick slate
Wouldn’t it be the most badass thing if the Yharim fight ended with us knocking ...
lameee
simple tangle
yharim would probably rather kill himself than take in all the genocide he committed
thick slate
i want to rip yharims limbs off his body
raven brook
"hey yharim help me kill noxus"
"ok terrarian"
"xeroc will be helping you"
"boar yourself terrarian"
young socket
hog yourself
simple tangle
i dont think he could even withstand the idea of being wrong
raven brook
clearly couldn't since he got so mad at permafrost's betrayal, with challenged his ideals and implied he might be wrong, actually, that he sent his daughter to kill him
simple tangle
like at what point have u committed such atrocities in the name of ur beliefs that being wrong simply isnt an option anymore
raven brook
the thought of yharim saying "boar yourself" is deeply funny to me
i will picture this in my head now
simple tangle
hes done so much, it couldnt have been wrong, could it
worldly spindle
Cuz at the rate we’re going, this story is just gonna end in the Terrarian becoming the worst possible version of themselves
worldly spindle
Kill Yharim, kill the Distortion, and then kill Xeroc cuz it’s funny.
Calamitas would hate us.
raven brook
objectively speaking most of the "progression-mandated" actions yo utake are
a pretty big net positive
raven brook
Kill Yharim, kill the Distortion, and then kill Xeroc cuz it’s funny.
Calamitas...
we're not killing xeroc
worldly spindle
on god?
raven brook
yeah his bossfight is more of a spar than anything
young socket
on xeroc
raven brook
on xeroc
worldly spindle
LOL
simple tangle
fighting xeroc =/= killing him
like scal
warm gull
actually if we kill yharim and the distortion the only bad one is xeroc which is like debatable
raven brook
I'm personally a believer that Xeroc will be fought after Noxus
young socket
anyways uhh thinking of all the "major progression" bosses that are bad to kill and its like
simple tangle
queen bee
warm gull
why would chudlamitas hate us? we just kill her too
young socket
wof (because it makes the heartlands more dangerous) and calclone cuz shes just a girl
simple tangle
true!
worldly spindle
Good point about the Calamitas fight
raven brook
"last villain"
And then the Xeroc fight is the last actual fight but it's just a like. friendly spar after the actual big evil distortion glupshitto is dead
for #fun
simple tangle
calclone rly is just a girl tho yeah wtf did she do 😭
raven brook
i mean
split mortar
wof (because it makes the heartlands more dangerous) and calclone cuz shes just ...
Calclone is insane and trying to burn you tbf
Could be made more nuanced but atm its probably just a mercykill
raven brook
calclone's fight ingame might aswell not exsit rn
worldly spindle
I could be wrong but I’ve always gotten the sense that we didn’t summon Calamitas to fight her but she got scared and lashed out
thick slate
upsets me that i cant kill calamitas
robust osprey
she is also an insane girl who probably kills people
raven brook
calclone is one of those characters thats like everything about her is changing entirely
young socket
Calclone is insane and trying to burn you tbf
Could be made more nuanced but atm...
thats true currently shes like insane beyond saving
raven brook
gameplay, lore, everything
So genuinely using literally anything ingame for calclone rn as lore is pointless imo
simple tangle
id love to have the option to spare calclone
raven brook
artificer calclone in 2 days
young socket
but like most devs ive seen think making calclone more nuanced rather than insane beyond saving is a better decision for the character
warm gull
calclone and calamitas both getting spared because god forbid you kill a woman in the video game
smh
split mortar
So genuinely using literally anything ingame for calclone rn as lore is pointles...
Yes but we have nothing but vague plans and probably misrememberings of ggg rants so :p
raven brook
Yeah then just
dont use anything
Unless the stuff ur sure off
Except
Like i dont get this idea
simple tangle
but like most devs ive seen think making calclone more nuanced rather than insan...
i mean yeah thats objectively a better direction to take her IMO
worldly spindle
Providence found out the hard way that the hammer of justice is unisex
raven brook
"It's better than nothing" iwell does it really matter if what ur using is still not gonna be canon anyways
its like
whats a good analogy for this
let me think
eager bluff
its like trying to make a fnaf theory
raven brook
Ok imagine u have like half of a dinosaurs skeleton
young socket
So genuinely using literally anything ingame for calclone rn as lore is pointles...
erm draetalk
eager bluff
its like trying to make a fnaf theory
everything is going to change and none of it will make sense anymore
split mortar
Ok imagine u have like half of a dinosaurs skeleton
No
raven brook
its not complete
So then u fill the other half of the dinosaur skeleton with a elephant skeleton for no reason
"its better than nothing!" well it dosent rly matter because its still not what the dinosaur looked like
ur not accomplishing anyhting by doing this
simple tangle
whyd we kill storm weaver is the terrarian stupid?
raven brook
spare storm weaver
please im begging
caldev give me the ability to spare storm weaver and my life is yours
eager bluff
no storm weaver was stupir thats why we killed it
raven brook
we should kill YOU then
simple tangle
we should have the option to team up with storm weaver and jump DoG
young socket
convince doze to convince the other devs
raven brook
because you also are
eager bluff
i never claimed to not be
simple tangle
can calamity have mcu dialogue
young socket
well that just happened
raven brook
rather than the usual spawn message its
terrarian: gulp.... hes right behind me isnt he
young socket
hes right behind me, isnt it?
simple tangle
draedon played by jack black
exo prism!
this is a cosmic forge!
cragmaw mire (to the tune of chicken jockey)
raven brook
oh those guys? theyre the illmerans!
manic bluff
the distortion!
simple tangle
oh those guys? theyre the illmerans!
they looove crushing clams
pulsar ocean
Wouldn’t it be the most badass thing if the Yharim fight ended with us knocking ...
why would we wanna take down the distortion
what if noxus is actually one of the only good guys
worldly spindle
I think Xeroc fills the "wait I don't think this guy is our enemy" role in this story just fine
am dumb, mfw I can't sense sarcasm
pulsar ocean
xeroc saw millions of people and his godly fellows getting slaughtered and did nothing
pulsar ocean
am dumb, mfw I can't sense sarcasm
not even sarcasm what indicates noxus isnt a good guy
cuz hes purple?
worldly spindle
Are you suggesting that the Distortion isn't this greater evil like we think it is?
pulsar ocean
why would it be evil
worldly spindle
DoG feels pretty unambiguously evil to me
pulsar ocean
its an entirely different place not even consuming the world like the evils or anything
pulsar ocean
DoG feels pretty unambiguously evil to me
so just cuz hes cocky and purple hes evil?
worldly spindle
There's... definitely a lot more going on besides that
leaden bridge
noxus wants to kill a lot of people and that's really bad
worldly spindle
We can do conspiracy theories all we want and operate on the fact that we haven't seen the Distortion ourselves, but I don't think it's outlandish to say that everything in the game has been pointing towards the Distortion being bad news
young socket
noxus is an alien and thats bad i think
leaden bridge
Hey buddy that's xenophobic
worldly spindle
xeroc saw millions of people and his godly fellows getting slaughtered and did n...
I also hardly think this is a sin that should be punished by death
He could've stepped in yeah, but we don't know what his thought process was
leaden bridge
there's no thought process that justifies letting millions of people die????????
The only excuse they could have is being very busy with something really worse
worldly spindle
EXACTLY
leaden bridge
Even so, a lot could be questioned about exactly how busy he could even be
It's been hundreds of years and like, he has time do bossrush and, more importantly, he can like simulate living beings out of primordial light so surely it would not have been that hard
It's kind of a whole deal
To us it's just kinda very much hanging until this is answered officially but it is simply kind of unbelievable he never had time to do anything about it in like the hundred years the crusade took or the hundreds of years since his ascension when people were killing dragons
We'll wait until the answer before being too critical of it but we do think it's a huge hole (unless xeroc is indeed just a bad person)
worldly spindle
It's been hundreds of years and like, he has time do bossrush and, more importan...
Yes! He could've! And he probably should've! But I'm not gonna stand around calling him evil just because he didn't. I'd rather waste energy casting judgement on the one who actually killed all those people.
leaden bridge
These things are hardly mutually exclusive
And, unlike xeroc, Yharim dies at the end of it all so it's not like there's much gain of quantifying the levels of hitler someone has to punish
sinful adder
You know, that's a good point
leaden bridge
like no one's really discussing xeroc being a bad guy in spite of yharim being one they are parallel tracks of discussion
sinful adder
Xeroc is actually pretty evil for doing nothing
Unless he was somehow incapable, he could and should have absolutely stepped in
There may be some merit to refusing to interfere too much for fear of messing things up with your power, but the things yharim was doing were so extreme that it must cross whatever line could exist
Maybe this is why Silva hates Xeroc
You can consider two different groups evil at once even if you're only addressing one at the moment
leaden bridge
Also we're talking about fictional characters in the abstract and there's no consequences from focusing on the "wrong one"
sinful adder
Yeah that too
worldly spindle
He could've been holding back the Distortion from killing even more people.
Or maybe he was intentionally avoiding conflict because he figured a battle between him and Yharim would wreak even more havoc. Look no further than Calamitas.
Maybe he worries about the ramifications of someone as omnipotent as him interfering with mortal affairs too much, potentially leading humanity to sloth. The same way Superman doesn't fuck with Gotham that much.
Or maybe he truly was just a coward with zero excuses.
We don't know!
He better give us a good answer when we face him. But it's a waste of energy to judge him right now when we know so little and there's more pressing matters at hand.
sinful adder
He could've been holding back the Distortion from killing even *more* people.
Or...
I completely agree
zenith geode
couldnt he just instantly make yharim a memory
sinful adder
?
worldly spindle
By that logic, he could blip the Distortion out of existence
sinful adder
Yharim could put up a fight
leaden bridge
wdk if he can instantly pulverize yharim but he can at least partly control the sun
zenith geode
a small column of primordial light to just scorch the strings that make him up
leaden bridge
By that logic, he could blip the Distortion out of existence
To be fair a single person vs an entire location r very different things
we do think he is too powerful to really care much about a confrontation with yharim, scal and brimmy were on very identical power levels and fighting fire with fire
Xeroc could've hypothetically had yharim killed on the aerie relatively easily to no real damage to anything beyond it
Especially since yharim for most of the crusade was a little weaker than when we fight him
worldly spindle
Potentially yeah
Point is, I'm upset with him too. But it's too soon to cast judgement.
We'll get an answer from him in time.
robust osprey
maybe bro just wanted the conflict to resolve without his interference while he fights back noxus or some shit
wheat walrus
mrrp
woeful karma
mrrp
light linden
mrow :3
dusk laurel
woeful karma
oh
nova oar
Speaking of Xeroc, I just read in the "future plans" document that he won't die in the end.
Which feels kinda weird to me. We already have a "Xeroc" superboss that just tests the player in WotG.
zenith geode
yeah there's no possibility that the terrarian could ever get even close to strong enough to actually kill xeroc
nova oar
That bad, huh?
nova oar
quotation marks, +wasn't he inspired from old lore?
zenith geode
vaguely but things change
nova oar
yeah ik that
nova oar
yeah there's no possibility that the terrarian could ever get even close to stro...
Is he omnipotent or something?
nova oar
It just feels weird. We finish off reason #1 why everything went to shit, we eventually kill reason #3. And reason #2 is just above everything.
latent flower
i too am kinda urked by the idea of him just being this entirely untouchable observer character
zenith geode
a perfect ascension already made him stronger than zeratros iirc
nova oar
a perfect ascension already made him stronger than zeratros iirc
That kinda makes sense.
Are gods stronger than their dragon counterparts on average?
zenith geode
depends
nova oar
I assume so because the auric soul is consumed.
zenith geode
are they skilled? was it a perfect ascension? do they train?
nova oar
Instead of a person just having it.
nova oar
are they skilled? was it a perfect ascension? do they train?
That, too.
nova oar
i too am kinda urked by the idea of him just being this entirely untouchable obs...
Yeah, you get it.
zenith geode
it very much depends on who actually consumes the auric soul
i forget how strong gloomborf was or if that was ever even discussed
simple tangle
why
latent flower
and then we can choose whether to actually do it
nova oar
That would be more satisfying.
zenith geode
the only things that could actually pose a threat to xeroc are prime ml and noxus
hell, prime ml is the reason why xeroc
wheat walrus
prepare, for some of ye shall be kidnapped soon enough
latent flower
scary
simple tangle
i hope we cant even kill noxus
nova oar
Could the combined might of the earth bring down Xeroc the same way they did prime ML, or with the dragons and gods gone, is it just hopeless?
real silo
There's no reason to kill him because he's not evil
wheat walrus
There's no reason to kill him because he's not evil
devours your cool role
zenith geode
if xeroc decides to kill terraria then the planet is fucked there's nothing that can be done against the sun coming back
nova oar
The sun
real silo
devours your cool role
stompni
nova oar
He has the power of the sun.
I see.
The whole sun? All five billion years worth of fuel?
abstract carbon
If yharim did eat yharons soul would we be cooked?
zenith geode
one of the things xeroc did was move the sun a lot further away so that actual life could be on the surface
nova oar
one of the things xeroc did was move the sun a lot further away so that actual l...
Oh
Oh he's like that
I see.
zenith geode
If yharim did eat yharons soul would we be cooked?
if completely hypothetical scenario that goes against the very nature of both characters happened yeah the terrarian would probably be fucked
real silo
The sun is not a million kilometer wide ball in calamity
It's still a huge fireball just nowhere near as big as it is irl
nova oar
oh
abstract carbon
if completely hypothetical scenario that goes against the very nature of both ch...
So not even Chad summoner could win
zenith geode
i wonder why zeratros kept the sun so close to terraria
real silo
Lazy
worldly spindle
one of the things xeroc did was move the sun a lot further away so that actual l...
this implies that life couldn't prosper prior
real silo
He wants his jacuzzi sky islands
nova oar
If yharim did eat yharons soul would we be cooked?
speaking of that, could Terrarian have eaten Yharon's soul if he so chose, and just decided not to in the canon?
zenith geode
yharon's soul teleports to the aerie when he's killed
cosmic zenith
The player doesn't know the ritual to do so
zenith geode
also that too
nova oar
Ah, okay. You'd have to find him there and then eat the egg.
zenith geode
you can't just stick it in your mouth
abstract carbon
If a soul stays after death could yharon be revived?
abstract carbon
Is that the canon reason for Refights
nova oar
no
abstract carbon
What makes scal refights canon if she kinda becomes our freind
simple tangle
anahita refights should be canon :^)
nova oar
There is dialouge about it being a friendly spar
abstract carbon
Oh ok
nova oar
from scal herself
zenith geode
and the fact that you do let her live after
nova oar
Which is funny
young socket
theres a few refights that are canon
the majority of which are just "well theres multiple of them"
zenith geode
isnt that basically just like dragonfolly
simple tangle
anahita cant die right
zenith geode
as an elemental yeah she's functionally unkillable
young socket
isnt that basically just like dragonfolly
eoc, boc and eow
zenith geode
unless you got rid of all water
nova oar
Imagine calling up your homie and being like "yo wanna duke it out for shits and giggles?" but you're both small country level
abstract carbon
Imagine calling up your homie and being like "yo wanna duke it out for shits and...
simple tangle
king slime?
young socket
yea ks too
abstract carbon
NOOO EMBED FAIL
nova oar
rip
zenith geode
how many paladins does slime god have
abstract carbon
67
young socket
maybe plant or maybe duke i dont remember if they were ever confirmed to have refights
young socket
how many paladins does slime god have
at least 2
zenith geode
the queen slime entry implies its a lot through the use "a"
simple tangle
the player encountering not one but two abnormally large slimes with a crown and also a half digested ninja
nova oar
How did humanity evolve underground?
latent flower
would it be cringe if yharim appeared after the yharon fight as yharon is dying cause yharim knows he'll probably be dead before yharon is reborn
to say goodbye
nova oar
If the surface was uninhabitable to all but the strongest
zenith geode
well he's with the yharon egg right now
nova oar
like
abstract carbon
Maybe after yharons defeat yharim pops up for like 5 minutes and then books it if u deal a set amount of dmg
nova oar
why would humans evolve below the surface?
latent flower
5 minutes is a while, i was thinking a pretty quick cutscene
latent flower
he shows up as yharon as dying, looks at you once yharon is gone and then books it a few moments after
zenith geode
the only thing i could see working is like a short couple second cutscene like the inf scal post-brimmy one but i dont think he would do that
abstract carbon
Maybe u have 30 seconds to deal like 200k damage otherwise he OHKOs u and u gotta refight yharon
simple tangle
no
latent flower
the only thing i could see working is like a short couple second cutscene like t...
ya thats kinda what i mean
i feel like it would fit his character
abstract carbon
He steals the bag
latent flower
and actually seeing him ingame before the fight would be nice\
simple tangle
im guessing somekind of, at the very least a previous iteration of azafure existed back when the sun was a deadly laser right
nova oar
or not even a cutscene, just show him in the background and have him leave when you turn to face him
zenith geode
you'll at least talk to him through StonePhone™
nova oar
why would humans evolve below the surface?
I still wanna know this, tho
latent flower
wdym why?
simple tangle
id like to note that yharim isnt at any point explictly antagonistic towards the player
nova oar
oh so the sun wasn't always a deadly laser?
dusk laurel
likely not
simple tangle
insane theory
zenith geode
actually a good question, was the sun still up close and personal with terraria pre-world soul shattering
latent flower
but even if it was theres just no way for humans to have evolved above ground
nova oar
maybe xeroc was justified
latent flower
because theyd all be dead
young socket
i dont think he actually made it deadly just that
the sun was deadly and he couldnt control it as well as xeroc could
latent flower
id like to note that yharim isnt at any point explictly antagonistic towards *th...
ya so i think it makes sense for him to show up and not fight you
just say bye to his friend
nova oar
ik I was just throwing something out there for laughs
latent flower
cause ur gonna slime him
simple tangle
i feel like he knows that if he shows his face in the heartlands hed risk getting jumped
nova oar
shii, now I wanna know how the auric dragons came to be
someone on the writing team make a whole prehistoric evolutionary time table
abstract carbon
Do we have a design for xeroc for when we eventually fight them
young socket
Do we have a design for xeroc for when we eventually fight them
no
simple tangle
i wouldnt be surprised if calamitas just attacked him on sight
nova oar
but I think?
dusk laurel
we only have pre ascension xeroc's design
nova oar
ah
abstract carbon
i wouldnt be surprised if calamitas just attacked him on sight
Maybe yharim does a 1v2 vs scal and terrarian
zenith geode
if there is a post ascension design its not public
latent flower
i wouldnt be surprised if calamitas just attacked him on sight
how would she see him if shes in a cave somewhere
zenith geode
or its still a wip
latent flower
and still i think even with all that considered
simple tangle
shes a witch she would figure it out
latent flower
he would weigh his options
zenith geode
idk i cant remember
nova oar
Maybe yharim does a 1v2 vs scal and terrarian
That would make sense to happen, but it won't because we won't have our final boss battle.
latent flower
and take a risk
abstract carbon
how would she see him if shes in a cave somewhere
She's in my npc hotel
latent flower
to say goodbye
simple tangle
That would make sense to happen, but it won't because we won't have our final bo...
i dont think yharim survives the calamitas nuke combined with the terrarian
wheat walrus
nyanyanya
nova oar
i dont think yharim survives the calamitas nuke combined with the terrarian
oh, definitely not
yharim and scal are already neck and neck in power iirc
maybe yharim barely edges her out
abstract carbon
Is Exo suit the auric armor we get?
zenith geode
no
nova oar
no
simple tangle
no
simple tangle
its auric + draedon made exo mech enhancements iirc
zenith geode
yharim has a special exo-enhanced set of auric armour after he almost got his shit blown smoove off from braelor and statis' attack
abstract carbon
Is deadon armor that exo prisim stuff
dusk laurel
much stronger than ours
its not stronger necessarily its just able to auric reject things and has exotech built into it
simple tangle
yharim barged into draedons room after the divorce and demanded to get a new cool sset of toys
worldly spindle
yharim has a special exo-enhanced set of auric armour after he almost got his sh...
we were this close man
zenith geode
shortly before he found out about the Bee Experiments™ that draedon was performing
noble briar
"We have Auric Tesla armor at home"
the auric tesla armor at home:
simple tangle
shortly before he found out about the Bee Experiments™ that draedon was performi...
i thought he asked for exo stuff after
zenith geode
mock attuned auric tesla is still damn strong
nova oar
its not stronger necessarily its just able to auric reject things and has exotec...
I thought that being blessed by a dragon meant you could use Auric to its fullest, while if you just fake it with a portion of stolen dragon power, it's not the same
zenith geode
i thought he asked for exo stuff *after*
oh no he immediately severed everything relating to draedon when he found out about the enslavement
simple tangle
i think draetalk brings it up as happening after the bee incident
young socket
shortly before he found out about the Bee Experiments™ that draedon was performi...
it was after
simple tangle
which is rly funny
young socket
the bee incident was like a decade ago, a bit after the incineration
nova oar
yeah, Yharim just busted in and demanded a better suit
dusk laurel
I thought that being blessed by a dragon meant you could use Auric to its fulles...
putting yharon's soul fragments in only nullifies the rejection it doesnt weaken the metal
zenith geode
???????? i thought it was like a couple months ago what the fuck was i on
simple tangle
me going up to my divorced husbands lab to ask for a cool new suit
dusk laurel
I read otherwise in the lore doc
wait what does it say
simple tangle
the exo mechs began construction shortly after the player starts the game, right?
dusk laurel
theyre built during our playthrough yeah
zenith geode
in progress for a lot longer but yeah these ones are build during your slaughterfest
simple tangle
id love seeing some teasers throughout the playthrough building up to the exo mechs
seeing draedon machinery in the background digging up sea prisms, stuff like that :3
nova oar
wait what does it say
Shit you might be right because auric not working as well if you mock the attunement is an assumption
zenith geode
i was about to say "i wonder if he's gnna bother making new ones" but then i remembered he's draedon ofc he's gonna make more
worldly spindle
To be fair, there are like three different examples ingame of the "last time" Yharim and Draedon interacted
zenith geode
until he can advance no more he will continue
worldly spindle
It's confusing
abstract carbon
Shit you might be right because auric not working as well if you mock the attune...
HOW THE HELL U GOT 6 WIFI
simple tangle
To be fair, there are like three different examples ingame of the "last time" Yh...
whats the third? i know they broke up after the bee incident then later yharim barged in and demanded a new suit
zenith geode
phone is inside the router
dusk laurel
yharim claims the last interaction was the pbg incident, but he doesnt mention that he crawled his way back to draedon 6 months ago after almost being killed by statis and braelor to get exo upgrades to his armor
simple tangle
he didnt want the player to know he got murked 😭
abstract carbon
I think we should get a yharim npc after his boss so we can do a hazbin hotel arc
nova oar
oh ykw another question
zenith geode
I think we should get a yharim npc after his boss so we can do a hazbin hotel ar...
oh no he's dead no matter what
nova oar
is empress of light connected to Xeroc since she can also use primordial light?
zenith geode
after the fight either you kill him or he kills himself
simple tangle
dude either dies of old age or by the player
abstract carbon
Oh rlly
simple tangle
after the fight either you kill him or he kills himself
i thought dude was just old
dusk laurel
is empress of light connected to Xeroc since she can also use primordial light?
uhh we dont know eol is kinda an enigma rn
zenith geode
pretty old but not within aging out of life
zenith geode
attunement to the dragon of rebirth does quite a bit for your aging
dusk laurel
her lore is pretty old compared to the other stuff from the lore rewrite 3 years ago and likely will get some some tweaks (changes to the yharim whisper)
abstract carbon
Maybe he says "time to cause a calamity" then calamitys all over u
nova oar
like "oh she can use the most powerful force in the world, the one that God uses to move the fucking sun" and no other elaboration
what?????
nova oar
her lore is pretty old compared to the other stuff from the lore rewrite 3 years...
Gotcha
zenith geode
tbf chaos elementals have a tiny itty bitty smidge of primordial light too
nova oar
tbh I headcanon her as a servant of xeroc who just watches the earth for him
while he's off doing whatever he does
simple tangle
eidolon wyrm my beloved ❤️
it and silva are besties
zenith geode
its why primordial wyrm jumps you when you use the rod of discord
simple tangle
tbh I headcanon her as a servant of xeroc who just watches the earth for him
does a pretty shit job then
zenith geode
empress is xeroc's DoG theory
simple tangle
dog is the jesse and james to noxus' giovanni
nova oar
is it theoretically possible for guys like Terrarian to figure out how to tap into the primordial light?
even if they can't gain dominion of it like Xeroc
abstract carbon
is it theoretically possible for guys like Terrarian to figure out how to tap in...
Like goku tapping into god ki?
simple tangle
iirc primordial light is a zeratros thing so idk how theyd do that
nova oar
(I have not watched dragon ball but I assume it's like that)
abstract carbon
Maybe a bit leaks out of xeroc or smth
zenith geode
terrarian making a giant battery out of chaos elementals
nova oar
I bet Draedon could figure out how it works if you give him enough centuries and resources
abstract carbon
Primordial light is an item used in new gear
Trust
Has a 0.00000067% chance to drop 1 from chaos elemental
nova oar
also, how do we defeat noxus?
if noxus scales to xeroc, how does his superboss fight end?
or their
maybe gender is different or nonexistent for distortion beings
idk
dusk laurel
noxus is weaker than xeroc but still extremely powerful
not like prime ml strong but its a massive threat
abstract carbon
Wdym prime ML?
abstract carbon
Yah
simple tangle
terrarian making a giant battery out of chaos elementals
why hasnt draedon tried this ? is he stupid
abstract carbon
What's prime moonlord
dusk laurel
do we kill him or just seal him?
yeah were gonna kill noxus but thats so far in the future so we wont know how for a long while
zenith geode
the moon lord that invaded terraria and killed a ton of dragons
nova oar
I see
zenith geode
(same entity but you fight it super weakened)
nova oar
so we either exploit a weakness of Noxus or get close to Xeroc, but not "beat Xeroc" close
Gotcha
zenith geode
oh then the planet is fucked unless xeroc steps in
abstract carbon
even Chad summoner couldn't win?
nova oar
Xeroc would have to throw that damn baby sun at him to get a sure win
zenith geode
like 60% of the dragons died and the rest lost their rebirth, summoner couldn't tickle prime ml
abstract carbon
NOOOO MY GOAT
scenic olive
throws xeroc at the sun
woeful karma
is it theoretically possible for guys like Terrarian to figure out how to tap in...
magnifying glass
languid badge
no way
abstract carbon
real glen
yeah, wrong channel
meager thistle
warm gull
it seems to indicate some kind of sans
stray crystal
so what is a soul anyway?
limpid saddle
so what *is* a soul anyway?
philosophically or what
stray crystal
philosophically or what
in cal.
limpid saddle
well it's just a form of essence, it's the core of anything living
stray crystal
so do plants have souls?
stray crystal
i mean normal plants
real silo
soul of grass
stray crystal
if its the core of anything living then plants would logicly have souls.
limpid saddle
I was being kind of vague on purpose
stray crystal
do we not really know?
limpid saddle
do we not really know?
yeah
we only really have information about auric souls & the world soul
long bloom
and still not much
split mortar
Could the combined might of the earth bring down Xeroc the same way they did pri...
Xeroc is above even prime ml
While different powers result in this being different result then just raw strength xeroc could theoretically just let the sun bake the surface again
green prairie
i like to imagine most of the Gods would beat their respective Dragons even (since i feel the Dragons held themselves back from fully using their domains. the Gods wouldn't have that restraint)
scenic olive
whats the smallest auric dragon we know of
was it the dragon that slime god takes the soul from
green prairie
Gluttony (i forgot the Dragon's actual name, so im just gonna refer to it by its domain) being really small would be really funny actually
i've actually always wondered what the nature of Goozma was really like? my personal headcanon is that they're pretty lax, considering the easily-pacifiable nature of slimes (and yes i know Goozma is not a canon thing, i just refer to Slime God by that name since i like giving them an actual name)
pulsar ocean
I wanted to talk about goozma like the cool boss and then I realized you’re talking about slime god
long bloom
Gluttony (i forgot the Dragon's actual name, so im just gonna refer to it by its...
his actual name is gloomborf 
green prairie
I wanted to talk about goozma like the cool boss and then I realized you’re talk...
according to my Headcanon'd Cal Lore Masterdoc That Isn't Real It's All In My Head Actually, Goozma and Slime god are the same God, Gooz is just the final true form when it stops holding itself back (again, headcanon! that just feels more satisfying to me)
green prairie
his actual name is gloomborf <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
that name is too silly for me to take seriously, so i'm Source Dragon-ing it and calling him Gluttony from now on
long bloom
according to my Headcanon'd Cal Lore Masterdoc That Isn't Real It's All In My He...
that's basically what old lore was
long bloom
that name is too silly for me to take seriously, so i'm Source Dragon-ing it and...
holy shit ninjago mentioned
hell yeah
green prairie
🤝 ball knowledge
i've personally used the Source Dragons to try and help my understanding of Calamity's Auric Dragons, but they're only similar in some aspects. besides i think consuming a Source Dragon soul would probably cause a huge catastrophe
long bloom
most likely
thunderfang is more similar to an auric dragon than source dragons are imo
green prairie
the Auric Dragons are their own bundle of confusing anyway
long bloom
they're infinitely more straightforward than whatever the hell ninjago has going on
with sources and arcs and such
mighty zenith
his actual name is gloomborf <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
gloomborf isnt a confirmed name for it
green prairie
ugh dont even get me started on the Arc Dragon naming confusion. stupid Focus couldn't even come up with an interesting name for her champion/avatar so she steals the name from a pre-existing species
mighty zenith
green prairie
i do hope that name gets changed but it is very silly
long bloom
and now there's an arc dragon of life too 
green prairie
ah yes, some of the almighty Auric Dragons of Terraria: Zeratros, Yharon, Gloomborf, Raelvanna, all the greats
sacred pilot
I'm gonna gloom my borf.
green prairie
and now there's an arc dragon of life too <:ManaRose:1386313233798922240>
i ASSUME that its an arc dragon literally. its a matri/patriarch like Riyu's mother was (she is an arc dragon iirc)
but knowing Dragons Rising im gonna have to throw that out in a month
dusk laurel
🔥
split mortar
the sun was deadly and he couldnt control it as well as xeroc could
Explodes tsuki with mind
split mortar
is it theoretically possible for guys like Terrarian to figure out how to tap in...
Solar fragments are primordial light in a funky state so possibly already do
green prairie
i do not like the idea of solar fragments being linked to Primordial Light actually
they're linked to a part of Fovos' army, so i think they're just lunar fragments like the rest of them. the name just happens to be Solar
split mortar
they're linked to a part of Fovos' army, so i think they're just lunar fragments...
No its confirmed
green prairie
it is??
split mortar
By dev and debuffs
split mortar
By dev and debuffs
Daytime eol will inflict a solar fragment debuff (daybreak) and eol in day uses pl
And then when people were theorising it cei confirmed it
green prairie
i dont think that confirms that solar stuff is linked to primordial light
split mortar
Pluh
Jared should inly spawn from PL and cei doesnt say im wrong but makes a reason to why solar doesnt anger the wyrm
green prairie
i dont really agree with that so im just gonna throw it in "stuff that does exist in lore but i dont like it so it doesnt exist in my headcanons"
real silo
Based
long bloom
Solar fragments are primordial light in a funky state so possibly already do
also saros possession
green prairie
i have a lot of those. id write down my personal little headcanons but they range from silly ideas about how the smaller bits of the world work to Nameless Deity is real
split mortar
Lol
split mortar
also saros possession
Also true thats new
green prairie
speaking of silly ideas with no impact, does Providence like donuts? (at least, did she while she was mortal?)
split mortar
We dunno
cosmic zenith
We should also integrate vanilla more seamlessly as we go
So hopefully recognizing vanilla content as lore-relevant will become increasingly intuitive
long bloom
We should also integrate vanilla more seamlessly as we go
what does this mean
cosmic zenith
? It's a very self-explanatory statement
long bloom
integrate what about vanilla and how
cosmic zenith
That's wildly context-dependant and it's still something we're figuring out
But it's mostly about blending vanilla content with Calamity's setting
For example, Wyverns are relevant to Calamity lore and we should be able to build upon them through that avenue; the Underworld in general is recontextualized by the presence of [Calamity's characterization of] Demons plus Azafurian civilization; some things are on a smaller scale that doesn't tie to the main plot, like the Traveling Merchant possibly referencing other continents/locations
green prairie
i'd LOVE to learn more about what life is like on the other continents on Terraria. what does the regular average person think about the Terrarian killing alien horrors? do they just read about it in the newspaper?
cosmic zenith
I am hoping to introduce more mundane/small-scale stuff into the the lore and story
long bloom
yippee
green prairie
We dunno
well i know actually because providence is my best friend and she likes sweets /j
sacred pilot
Can we get the morning routine for Yharim.
green prairie
- wake up
- ponder existence while overlooking the Dragons' Aerie
- gaslight Terrarian
- go back to bed
worldly spindle
One of my favorite parts of Calamity is, despite how dramatic the story is, how it still embraces the ridiculous elements of Terraria
bitter cave
Wake up, sit at the auric throne and ponder, train, talk to yharon, sleep
worldly spindle
Y’all made up a fun little backstory for the Empress of Light and you didn’t have to do that
long bloom
eol lore is being retconned
bitter cave
real silo
Torch god lore
long bloom
carbon monoxide induced hallucination
bitter cave
The forgotten profaned guardian trust
green prairie
Provi and Empress hate each other and im sticking with that now
bitter cave
He eats the rocks at the aerie
long bloom
What would be his favorite food?
his favorite pizza topping is canonically potato
sacred pilot
Getting all the minerals he needs.
green prairie
his favorite pizza topping is canonically potato
wow he rightfully is the antagonist. what a fucking menace
long bloom
sacred pilot
his favorite pizza topping is canonically potato
...Is that an actual pizza topping?
bitter cave
his favorite pizza topping is canonically potato
Yeah there is definitely something wrong with him
gray flame
his favorite pizza topping is canonically potato
Well now I have to kill him.
green prairie
One of my favorite parts of Calamity is, despite how dramatic the story is, how ...
i love calamity's really intriguing lore about the Dragons and the Gods and the narrative with Yharim and Calamitas and Draedon is all so compelling and wonderful, but i also love all the silly stuff. like yeah all of that is cool... but what if i find Wulfrum more interesting?
bitter cave
John wulfrum
worldly spindle
And I’ve said this before, but despite Calamity being a story about killing gods, there’s so many other parts of the world that are completely unrelated to that but are still just as interesting. Makes the world feel so alive.
Like the Distortion. Or the Astral Infection.
green prairie
John wulfrum
my new headcanon is that there is actually a guy named John Wulfrum. he's the self proclaimed king of of the underground Wulfrum trade
gray flame
Like the Distortion. Or the Astral Infection.
The fact that stars aren’t fusion reactors but concentrations of raw magic.
long bloom
and that mana is stored in the bones
green prairie
that explains the dungeon casters at least
bitter cave
There are stars under your skin
worldly spindle
on xeroc? I gotta reincorporate milk into my diet now
gray flame
Given that Yharon will be reborn, is he gonna be pissed off enough to try and kill us again?
sacred pilot
We're just gonna trap him in the Torment Nexus.
bitter cave
He is likely chilling with yharim rn
sacred pilot
My headcanon is that Yharon is gonna get Moon Lord'd, in that he will be locked for god knows how long.
bitter cave
But definitely pissed off at the terrarian
green prairie
by the time Yharon is revived, the Terrarian would've most likely defeated and killed both Yharim and Xeroc. maybe Yharon will just leave it alone and live his life?
gray flame
that's a very good question actually
Like we could certainly beat him again, but if this keeps happening, we may have to really politely ask Xeroc how to absorb an Auric soul.
long bloom
He is likely chilling with yharim rn
he takes 10 years to rebirth
bitter cave
About the time yharim will come out
long bloom
by the time Yharon is revived, the Terrarian would've most likely defeated and k...
yharim would be dead of old age anyway
bitter cave
Id say he will be reborn by then
long bloom
also the terrarian can't kill xeroc
gray flame
by the time Yharon is revived, the Terrarian would've most likely defeated and k...
I don’t think we’re killing Xeroc, especially cause he’s chill.
long bloom
unmatched power of the sun
green prairie
I don’t think we’re killing Xeroc, especially cause he’s chill.
i dont imagine Xeroc would be very chill, considering he broke a sacred oath and became a traitor without equal (and also intitiated a genocide of a race of largely benevolent beings)
sacred pilot
Untrue. Sort of.
long bloom
it was kinda the only option bruh
bitter cave
I like to imagine zeratros gave his soul willingly
sacred pilot
The Draconic genocide was an unintentional side-effect.
bitter cave
Holy typo
sacred pilot
Also "benevolent" is debatable. The Dragon of Flames is confirmed to be very evil which throws a wrench into that.
gray flame
i dont imagine Xeroc would be very chill, considering he broke a sacred oath and...
They ate the soul of an already dying dragon, to keep the power there from being lost completely. You’ve fallen for Yharim’s propaganda.
green prairie
but i do really want to learn what they're actually like (i just realized i misgendered xeroc. they use they/them dont they?)
green prairie
They ate the soul of an already dying dragon, to keep the power there from being...
(and Yharon's)
long bloom
but i do really want to learn what they're actually like (i just realized i misg...
they/he
the only they/thems currently are the bandit and shakidou (god of emptiness)
gray flame
Now we won’t kill Xeroc, but what about Noxus? Aren’t they massively evil?
worldly spindle
Did not know that about bandit
green prairie
i like to imagine all gods use they/them to an extent
worldly spindle
Apologies, m’them
long bloom
Now we won’t kill Xeroc, but what about Noxus? Aren’t they massively evil?
noxus is probably dying yeah
green prairie
(i start too many of my statements with "i like to imagine"
green prairie
Now we won’t kill Xeroc, but what about Noxus? Aren’t they massively evil?
Noxus is probably gonna die or escape at the end of its fight
bitter cave
Is dog and storm weaver a part of the distortion hive mind
long bloom
dog is, weaver isn't
green prairie
dog is, weaver isn't
i subscribe to the idea that DoG can think on his own, but he does serve Noxus, whether that be by his own choice or not is up for debate
gray flame
i subscribe to the idea that DoG *can* think on his own, but he does serve Noxus...
*could think. He’s not doing much of that anymore.
green prairie
he took a Death's Ascension right to the worm brain
bitter cave
I imagine noxus like the voidling from ror2
green prairie
it's hard to imagine noxus acting like.... that
Noxus i feel would be very cold and calculating. like Draedon but bent moreso on consuming Terraria rather than learning more about it
long bloom
sounds cool
gray flame
Noxus i feel would be very cold and calculating. like Draedon but bent moreso on...
They can calculate all they want, I’ve yet to see someone outsmart bullet.