lore-discussion

[robust osprey]

king slime would beat him I think

[scenic olive]

cave bat would be a close fight

[abstract carbon]

Are the exo meks clankers?

[long bloom]

yes

[abstract carbon]

Glad I'm not alone on this opinion

[abstract carbon]

I would absolutely love if when we get a yharim boss fight he becomes a sans level tumblr sexyman

[split mortar]

Calamity just isnt popular enough for that i think

[robust osprey]

trust the process melongun

trust the process

[frosty charm]

Raspberry Plastic Tickle Bear!

[wanton pendant]

You say that as if the people care.
Life, uh, finds a way.

[reef wigeon]

No, no, I'm serious, don't leave me hanging!

[robust osprey]

I think it's cool

Aureus vs Fanny (son of Nameless Deity)

[reef wigeon]

Fanny?

[robust osprey]

yeah fanny

[long bloom]

evil and intimidating flame

[reef wigeon]

AAAAAAH YEAH, THE META LOOKING FLAME!!!

[robust osprey]

thing

creature

[reef wigeon]

That's why he knew I was playing Sky Children of the Light...

And... WTF how is that supposed to work with code

I think Fanny would win

But

Aureus is conveniently similar to him

[leaden bridge]

fanny canonically beats xeroc btw

[reef wigeon]

And about that... I meant, why were you saying that Calamitas would beat him and all that?

[robust osprey]

did I say that though

[reef wigeon]

I said "You" in plural

[robust osprey]

I was making a joke and I never said calamitas

[reef wigeon]

I don't know what the joke is about...
But yeah, Fanny would win, although... maybe they'd be friends? Idk lol

[reef wigeon]

Well "canonically"

[leaden bridge]

no no canonically

He can do it

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

But I meant

Fanny is not canon

But I understood what you said anyway

[wheat walrus]

his ass aint even exist

"this community shitposts solos very strong character" no shot

[reef wigeon]

Which Calamity Mod character solos jujutsu verse

[leaden bridge]

He does bro

[split mortar]

Wow the shitpost has shitpost strength

[leaden bridge]

you're just jealous he has reality manip and is joyous and helpful

ingame feats btw

[split mortar]

Cool
Still as canon as like Mark (E) or smth

[green prairie]

i'm not a big powerscaler or into jjk at all (nor do i know anything about it) but Xeroc is pretty strong I guess

[split mortar]

According to some probably quite outdated calcs im pretty sure deus outscales almost all of jjk

[cosmic minnow]

Scaling

[stray crystal]

whoever wins is whoever the storyteller wants to win.

[cosmic minnow]

Basically

It’s all biased

„My oc is canonically weaker but wins because bullshitto 3000 luck random moment and divine intervention“

[stray crystal]

who wins? you, the player, eventually.

[cosmic minnow]

Id be really frustrated if I fought my hardest battle oat against someone and they just come back after dying

Which is what all terraria bosses experience

oh you won? Unlucky because in reality, you didn’t

[stray crystal]

they have to win every time, i just have to win once.

[cosmic minnow]

Literally

[green prairie]

i always personally see dying/respawning as a non-canon thing in Terraria just because it makes for a better story

[long bloom]

well it's explicitly not canon in calamity

[long bloom]

melongun jumpscare

[green prairie]

be nice to aquatic scourge they did nothing wrong..

[wheat walrus]

descendant 😭

[split mortar]

Whuh

[wheat walrus]

why is you acting like that user even knows me 🥹

atp just say

[long bloom]

omni jumpscare

[wheat walrus]

"idk"

or smth

[split mortar]

Why not

[wheat walrus]

im gonna crush you and make a melon juice drink

my fist is merciless

[split mortar]

calamitas can boil the Mediterranean sea in 3 days

[wheat walrus]

We js be sayin shit

😭

[leaden bridge]

how do you even like

does she just like launch brimstone fire from her hands for 3 days straight

[young socket]

hive mind is planet level

[leaden bridge]

and it has like some asburdly wide surface or what

[long bloom]

we dunno

[wheat walrus]

There is no timespan for Calamitas boiling the sea. There is no size for the sea.

no genuinely we have like

30 different timespans

10 different sizes

atp js wait for SSO or sumth ✌️

[leaden bridge]

she didnt even do it all herself like it wasnt just here there were other people

surely they had the orphan burning division on it too?

[long bloom]

as far as we know it was just her doing the nuking

[wheat walrus]

shut the fuck up everyone

[split mortar]

Would the orphan burning division even do much compared to the destruction the reusable nuclear child does

No

[wheat walrus]

Yes!!

[leaden bridge]

we dont know how manyt here were

and like, an important part of this is how much surface area you can cover

the orpahn burnign division definitely helps with that

even if theyre a billion times less strong than cal

[wheat walrus]

Annoying as they can be, Ender gets points here

Keep cooking

[leaden bridge]

we cook all the time you guys just like getting hung up on like very easy jokes

[wheat walrus]

I'm sry but you js annoying half the time 😭

[green prairie]

silly little headcanon but i like to imagine that wulfrum enemies are mildly sentient, kinda like slimes

they look up to draedon's works as the peak of the wulfrum form because they dont understand what gods are or what exotic resonance is

[long bloom]

wait cook

[green prairie]

they're not sentient sentient but they have enough understanding of the world around them to try and understand what they see. i also like to imagine that they try to repair each other, hence why the player sees so many

they make good companions thanks to their impressionable nature and useful (though mostly non-lethal) levels of firepower

(hence why most people's first summon are little wulfrum drones!)

[long bloom]

🔥

[green prairie]

i love making up dumb stuff about the tinier aspects of calamity's world but i do have some more insane, broad strokes ideas about how the Auric Dragons and their souls function and where they came from

[long bloom]

pleas share your ideas are peak

[green prairie]

a lot of my personal understanding of the calamity-verse does incorporate a lot of addon stuff, but i try to do so in a way that avoids impeding the core story arcs to calamity

like i'm not gonna go and say "oh yeah Yharim hangs out with the freaking Nameless Deity of Light on weekends" since that makes little to no sense, but i do have some concepts of how ND fits into the current lore with the Dragons and such

i imagine Terrara (the planet itself, not the game) is basically the center of the universe. yes there's a world around it, but all the universe-altering big events happens at Terraria. the Deity personally cultivated it and blessed the Dragons with domains over the world's forces to protect it, with Zeratros recieving a more direct portions of the Deity's powers to act as the Dragons' king

and then they just kinda go to live in their own little inaccessible pocket of the universe to watch the world go through the motions

thats one of my wackier takes but its my personal rationalization for letting Nameless Deity and Zeratros exist in the same canon

[long bloom]

hm

what about auric soul stuffs

[wanton pendant]

God was playing a lot of Pokémon when it came to the dragons, clearly.

[green prairie]

The Auric Dragons embody moreso categories rather that powers directly. For example, an Auric Dragon of Fire (idk if thats a thing im just making this up) could embody ash, the sun, and the underworld all at once and have domain over their respective powers

[long bloom]

there is an auric dragon of flame

but zeratros controls the sun

primordial light is effectively just sunlight

[green prairie]

i'm not 100% up to date on what all Auric Dragons there are so i kinda hand to wing that

[wanton pendant]

And the Flame dragon to my memory is somewhat morally better than the god who succeeded them.
Providence.

[feral skiff]

what would happen if a dragon ate another auric soul

[long bloom]

[green prairie]

oh absolutely i dont doubt that

[wanton pendant]

They would get kicked out of dragon society, and probably have a tummy ache.

[green prairie]

i do have some headcanons about what happens when one of the Dragons' souls gets consumed thankfully

when an Auric Soul is consumed and a Dragon is killed, the one who now wields the Soul gets basically all of the powers rolled into one thing. they get to call it whatever they want because there's no Auric Dragon to tell them what to call it anymore

[wanton pendant]

I'm fairly certain that's not how it works.

[green prairie]

(im not fully certain how it works either but to be fair im not sure if people are in-universe either. again all of this is just my personal rationalizations though!)

[wanton pendant]

The name of the domain changing is a consequence of the ascension being performed imperfectly.

Only two gods are known to have done it perfectly (and near certainly are the only ones), being Silva and Xeroc.

If I had to guess, the change is due to the properties of the individual absorbing the power's soul tampering with the domain.

[green prairie]

OH ty i was not aware of that

[long bloom]

the terminus is required for a perfect ascension

[green prairie]

i always assumed the original Dragon's domain kinda gets muddled in the process which is why no God seems to have all the powers that the Dragon had

[wanton pendant]

Basically, Providence is Ash, and absorbed Flame.
Her wrathful, destructive ways influenced the power of Flame to become the consequence of destruction by fire, which of course is ash.

At least, that's the theory.

This leads to the question of what on Earth is going on with Slime God to get Slime.

[green prairie]

she's just a little quirky

[long bloom]

true

[green prairie]

Slime God/Goozma though idk what the deal with that guy is. thankfully at least they seem to be one of the less malicious Gods

[wanton pendant]

Goozma is not a character.

[split mortar]

I think theres an image with all gods and dragons and who ate who?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, there is.

One of the many handy dandy charts we have.

[wanton pendant]

I believe this is it.

[green prairie]

ik you weren't here when i started yapping but i was just going over my personal headcanons about how calamity's world works, including some stuff from the addons i personally use!!

[long bloom]

it's this one

[wanton pendant]

They gave Death a name?

Is it Jimothy?

[long bloom]

-# accidental leak

[wanton pendant]

I wonder who...

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[dusk laurel]

🚬

[green prairie]

man these dragons are confusing

[split mortar]

What do you mean with this

[green prairie]

when do i get to talk about Astrageldon

[long bloom]

i just wanna know the domain of the god of frost

[split mortar]

This lacks dragon of faith and god of dogma

[long bloom]

no it doesn't

[green prairie]

blizzard maybe?

[long bloom]

below zaelithar and provi

[split mortar]

Oh

Missed that somehow

[green prairie]

maybe when a Soul absorption happens without the Terminus the absorber just gets a downgraded fusion of the powers the original Dragon had power over?

its very confusing

[long bloom]

perhaps

[wanton pendant]

No reason to believe the gods are weaker. If anything they're more likely to be stronger.

[green prairie]

i'm just gonna assume they have the same powers of the Dragons, the name is just different for the sake of not causing confusion

eventually i gotta write down all of my headcanon calamityverse + addons lore. i have so much

[split mortar]

But then whats with the 2 gods who do share domain

[green prairie]

there's 2 gods that share one?

[wanton pendant]

As in with the dragon.

Like the Dragon of Life and Goddess of Life, and the Dragon of Primordial Light and the God of Primordial Light.

[long bloom]

perfect ascensions

[green prairie]

They kept the original Dragon's powers because Xeroc and Silva did the ritual right

i assume the real difference with perfect vs flawed ascensions outside of name is you don't become a fucked up deformed flesh monster or something

[split mortar]

Nah otonilou seems perfectly fine

[wanton pendant]

Not quite.

I believe the document does explain why some of the gods look messed up.

[green prairie]

whatever its my silly hyperfixation and I get to make up the lore because it confuses me

[split mortar]

Fair

[green prairie]

i also have a lot more about the general world of calamity that isn't really related to all the god and dragon stuff

like man what if the mechanic and the cyborg are big Draedon fans?

[wanton pendant]

I think Cyborg states that he doesn't particularly care about Draedon, he just wanted the cool cybernetics.

[green prairie]

he's a dirty liar he's totally into draedon's work

[cosmic zenith]

Gloomborf is not a canon name

[split mortar]

Has name not final under it

[cosmic zenith]

Most "name not final" are names suggested by me but not confirmed in dev (so they have support, just not official confirmation); Gloomborf was not suggested by any dev and I don't know of any of them that currently support it

[icy veldt]

Moolgfrob

[leaden bridge]

No devs kike gloomborf lmao?

we can't blame u it's a funny name but damn

[mighty zenith]

i support it.

[raven brook]

That's what you want them to think stipulate venus

Gloomborf is real.

you cant fool me

[leaden bridge]

gloomborf can't show up in game for obvious reasons so frankly this name has won

Even if they add something to the game with his actual name on it most people r probably still going to learn about it from the community first and they'll be told hes called gloomborf

It's too late

Until the joke goes by in like 3 years that is

[long scaffold]

Are Ravager and Angus the same
I say no but my friend says yes so I'm bringing it to the people with more knowledge of the lore

[raven brook]

Yeah

Ravager is just Agnus's corpse revived through necromancy

Without his consciousness or personality or anything like that and just being a mindless brute because necromancy moment

[long scaffold]

If so then why do they have different places on here?

[raven brook]

Cuz their domains r different

[long scaffold]

So are there two dragons then?

[raven brook]

Somehow Ravager's domain was altered from Agnus being God of Sacrifices to Ravager being God of Blood

Which, safe to assume they probably added another auric soul in an attempt to revive him or something

[leaden bridge]

yeah it's pretty obvious that's what happened

wonder what dragon they put in

[cosmic zenith]

That's a pretty negative view

[leaden bridge]

Sorry stips

[cosmic zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1458473576079556659/garfield-death-sad-lasagna-blow-torch-gif--garfield.gif

[leaden bridge]

Gloomborf cultural victory

[cosmic zenith]

It's definitely unideal that so little of what we say has been added yet but it's even more unideal that development has been slow enough for that to settle

[leaden bridge]

You could say it's quite gloomy

[vernal crown]

[cosmic zenith]

If I knew it would take this long I'd have said a lot less

[leaden bridge]

Very fair

[spice torrent]

i love how necromancy is done in cal's world
it works, but it's not very good at doing anything else but making dead thing alive again

[raven brook]

shoutout to the fact that necromancy is also basically just evil magic radioactivity in every sense

there's a nuclear fallout effect in areas where necromancy is intensely used (timeless shores, crags) and even the way its used narratively is just. nuclear bomb

[split mortar]

Almost like calamitas was treated like a nuke

[leaden bridge]

So like what's with all the zombies

[livid wasp]

5 stars resort on the beach and 1 block coastline 1 gold for night

i think i made a good house

[feral skiff]

calamitas canonical house

calamitas was actually a billionaire and spent it all on brimstone magic lessons

[livid wasp]

bro look at the biome...

[feral skiff]

yeah she'd do that

[livid wasp]

i think she is happy

[feral skiff]

me too

[livid wasp]

haha guys i made the pool

[wanton pendant]

Your actions are going to make Calamitas walk the path of Guy Fawkes.

[raven brook]

y is this even on lore discussion 😭

[livid wasp]

I think she's just taking sulfur and mud baths. She's getting a well-deserved rest.

[cosmic zenith]

.

[scenic olive]

brimmilionare

[feral skiff]

roaring knight vs Calamitas who wins?

[wanton pendant]

What if Calamitas was a man and called Calamitos.

[feral skiff]

genderswap calamity

yharim is now called "Yharima"

[mighty zenith]

cutscene knight wins sorry

[wanton pendant]

You mean Yharer?

[long scaffold]

Where's Astrum Deus?

[raven brook]

not a god

not under the definition of god used in this context, anyhow. its worshipped as one but it's just a living being from space, it didn't ascend using an auric soul nor does it have a domain or used to be a human/mortal at any point

[long scaffold]

Ah, fair

[feral skiff]

is dreadon playing calamity space program

[lime scarab]

[latent flower]

yes

[cloud ibex]

no he's playing factorio space exploration

[latent flower]

hes researching how 2 make a computer capable of rendering minecraft shaders

he wants to play pretty block game in his free time

[wanton pendant]

'Draedon, what the HELL are you doing!?'
'I'm making the bees run DOOM.'

[lime scarab]

Make Ares fire a giant beam that covers the entire screen to make the terrarian play doom.

[long scaffold]

I'm asking a lot of channels because I have no clue which one I should go to for this, but does anyone know if there are any songs in the OST that have the leitmotif at 1:01 in Pest of the Cosmos?

[wanton pendant]

It's not in the video with all the motifs.

[visual kiln]

gloomborf cultural victory

[latent flower]

is gloomborf real

i cant

who named him thatr

[visual kiln]

yes

[latent flower]

thats amazing 😭

gloomborf the silly (domain is one of the deadly sins)

[visual kiln]

mhm

gloomborf the silly

[latent flower]

gloomborf the FAT

[long scaffold]

Not that I could find, no

Though I don't exactly trust my finding skills so I asked here just in case

[visual kiln]

!!!!! Thats mean

[latent flower]

not if its true

:3

[visual kiln]

oh ok

😔

sighhhh

[latent flower]

heeheehee

hohoho

[visual kiln]

ho ho ho

merry christmas

[latent flower]

🎅

[wanton pendant]

Known lore reason for fallen stars vanishing during the day?

[icy veldt]

What if Calamitas were a loaf of bread and called Calamitoast?

[odd magnet]

Guys does torch god count as a calamity god

[cloud ibex]

up to viewer interpretation

the writers are gonna leave it purposefully vague whether it is a real god or not

a popular fan headcanon is that it's actually a carbon monoxide poisoning induced hallucination from inhaling torch fumes in an enclosed space

[odd magnet]

How would that work with Torch’s Favour though

[mighty zenith]

the terrarian achieves clarity and starts using the right torches

[cloud ibex]

the terrarian is so fucked up by the experience that it ends up changing their life and they start going "man normal torches look so fucking ugly in the jungle"

[mighty zenith]

tbf imagine getting really stoned and thinking that the weed god is actively attacking you

i'd be traumatized too

[leaden bridge]

we dont think thatd magically make me able to transmogrify my bongs into being location appropiate

[mighty zenith]

idk have you tried it

[cloud ibex]

clearly you haven't been life changingly zonked out of your gourd before

[leaden bridge]

compelling argument

[cloud ibex]

thank you i came up with it five seconds ago

[odd magnet]

“Damn it’s snowing outside let me get my winter themed bong”

[cloud ibex]

xeroc:

[leaden bridge]

we dont think xeroc was a weed guy

we guess its like incense in a way but,

wdk

[wanton pendant]

Clearly Torch God is Xeroc.

[cloud ibex]

you just don't see the vision

and the end of your fight xeroc will offer you a puff of that divine doobie

i'm calling it now

[light linden]

what the hell are y'all talking about?

[cloud ibex]

torch god and xeroc smoking weed

[young socket]

i see the vision because xeroc reminds me a lot of you for some reason

[cloud ibex]

HOW

[young socket]

i will not elaborate.

[cloud ibex]

first cheese and now you

what the hell

[dusk laurel]

okay tbh i kinda see the argument for it

[cloud ibex]

i'm losing it

[green prairie]

my personal interpretation has always been the Torch God existing as sort of a weird luck spirit that may potentially be adjacent/related to the Auric Dragon of Flames but i always assume they were called a god in mythos because no one knew what else to call it

[raven brook]

Hehehehehehehhe

Hehehheeh Carbon Dioxide hehehehe

The new torch god alt theme's lyrics support it btw they support the carbon dioxide overdose hallucination theory

you cant escape it your terrarian WILL palce way too many torches and then overdose on carbon dioxide and hallucinate a boss fight

[split mortar]

Primordial light a bitch

[split mortar]

You protect us from the horrors of noxus mr beast

[feral skiff]

wouldn’t you just die from oxygen deprivation before hallucinating

[split mortar]

Not anymore

[light moth]

Hi guys
How Crabulon lore matters in Calamity?

Question from a friend of mine

[raven brook]

Uhhhhhhhhhh

Not much like at all

It's a Hermititan (giant crab from Illmeris/Sunken Sea) that escaped into the glowing mushroom biome to avoid the incineration

and eventually died there

[feral skiff]

it’s some creature that died in the mushroom biome and got it’s corpse taken over by mushrooms

[raven brook]

after it died the glowing mushrooms took its body over

thats about it really

[split mortar]

Crabulon is a big crab that fled from the reusable nuclear child (calamitas) nuking its environment
Died in a shroom cave and its corpse got taken over by the shrooms

[green prairie]

i like that a lot of things in calamity lore are just. weird monsters

[split mortar]

Especially early on

[raven brook]

Would be comical if you fought any of the actually super important stuff early on when youre just some random guy with Ruby Staff and Jungle Armor

so fighting lizards and eyeballs and crabs it is

[split mortar]

True

[green prairie]

it really makes the player's progression from basic monsters to stronger pillars of the world to actual gods

[green prairie]

The Actual Fucking Slime God

[raven brook]

I mean slime god is possibly getting moved so

[split mortar]

Slime god is not super important

Also true

[raven brook]

Also not that important yeah but it is a step up from everything before it

even if slime god is one of the weaker gods, it is still a god

which is a step up from uhh. big bee

bone guy

[green prairie]

i personally agree with a slime god retier because its very weird to go from fighting the eeeevil dungeon skeleton curse to the actual god of all slimes

also i dont like going from it to Queen Slime. that feels weird

[raven brook]

I mainly am in support of slime god retier because

holy shit dude queen slime i hate you i hate youuu

slime god and queen slime lore connection is a bandaid fix and it really shows 😭

[split mortar]

Thats because it is weird and theres only a patch to explain it but its obviously only there cause sg was stucl before queen slime

[split mortar]

Yeah

[raven brook]

that one like. domino image

[green prairie]

i do like the idea of slime god retreating and creating more conduits for itself throughout the game but it is very obviously a little bandaid

[raven brook]

fighting some big lizard > ??? > fight ultra genocider 3000

[green prairie]

terraria is like that in general. you do really go from funny cartoonishly large eye to moon horror

[split mortar]

So much genocide in calamity

[mighty zenith]

i wouldnt mind queen slime being slime god if.

1. queen slime was good
2. they werent one boss apart

[raven brook]

i would still mind it regardless

for a very simple reason

queen slime is a vanilla boss

[mighty zenith]

its like "oh hey this boss escaped ! maybe you'l fight them again way later on" and you just kill them immediately after

[mighty zenith]

very good point actually

i forget it is a vanilla boss

[raven brook]

it's just inherently underwhelming to do the "oh this boss escaped, maybe we can fight them again later!" and then the "rematch" is a vanilla boss you're already familiar with and already know exists

[mighty zenith]

because it feels exactly like a D tier calamity boss

[raven brook]

you're expecting a modded boss rematch

[green prairie]

reminds me a lot of old Astrageldon actually

[mighty zenith]

nah queen slime is still better than old geldon

old geldon was a dumpster fire

[split mortar]

Aureus is a massive improvement from geldon and aureus is still hated

[mighty zenith]

:(

[green prairie]

i used to hate aureus because it was so damn LOUD

[wanton pendant]

Boss Progression.
Big Slime.
Monstrous amalgamation of countless corpses.
Big Slime rematch.

I fail to see the issue.

[soft flame]

what's interesting is that the queen slime lore item implies yet another rematch

[raven brook]

It... does?

[soft flame]

"A glorious hunt, a fine foe. Now you know that you must chase them to the ends of Terraria."

[raven brook]

Yeah

"them" as in The Gods

[soft flame]

oh

[raven brook]

after you kill queen slime slime god is Dead dead

[soft flame]

it claimed that the queen slime was another guardian i misinterpreted it

[eager bluff]

queen slime is another guardian asterisk

[raven brook]

The lore item could probably be clearer about it frankly

Having fled after your battle, it seems the Slime God fashioned a new guardian from the unleashed essences.

Ensnared in the absorption process of its newfound power… it could not flee again.
Or perhaps it was overcome by desperation for survival.
A glorious hunt, a fine foe. Now you know that you must chase them to the ends of Terraria.

[eager bluff]

its another guardian that slime god got stuck in

[raven brook]

Ensnared in the absorption process of its newfound power… it could not flee again.

This part makes it pretty clear on that but

A glorious hunt, a fine foe. Now you know that you must chase them to the ends of Terraria.

[leaden bridge]

what if after that it went into astral and made astrageldon and after that it went into profaned biome and made profaned slime and after it went to abyss and it made goozma and after it made goozma again like fifty refights

[raven brook]

This part is a bit more vague, albeit if you were to deduce from the rpevious one ("slime god is dead") then

[wanton pendant]

Perfect Slime God Post-Yharim boss.

[raven brook]

you could deduce that the "them" isn't reffering to slime god cuz its Dead now

that's actually probalby intentional

Which is actually pretty neat

[soft flame]

i see then

idk i completely ignored that line when i read it

[split mortar]

Why does permafrost sell frozen bacon

[soft flame]

i read but i forgot to understand

[eager bluff]

his meat is delicious i dont like how that sounds nvm

[raven brook]

So nvm in hindsight this works actually

[limpid saddle]

whats wrong with a side hustle

[raven brook]

permafrost's bacon store

[soft flame]

the pigs of the forest steped one too much into the tundra

[leaden bridge]

Delicious meat

It's delicious

[limpid saddle]

times are tough..

he's gotta sling meat on the streets to survive after being trapped in a coldcube for like 3 years

[soft flame]

the fact that the bacon's frozen makes me think he just had a lifetime's supply of it inside the cube

[leaden bridge]

It's delicious

[soft flame]

correct

[wanton pendant]

He's the ice wizard, what else would he sell? Burnt bacon? Ridiculous.

[visual kiln]

meow

[crude light]

meow

[woeful karma]

WOAH

mr balls jumpscare

[visual kiln]

encounter

[dusk laurel]

balls

[young socket]

WOAH

octo jumpscare

[woeful karma]

:3

[soft flame]

is this a lore

[kindred crystal]

whats slime gods favorite color

[honest ferry]

it likes all of them equally i think

[sinful adder]

Who made the cyborg's robotic parts?

It seems beyond the skill of normal people in calamity

[honest ferry]

he says this "Draedon? The guy who made these upgrades on me said he wanted to best him. But I never cared about that, I just wanted to shoot lasers from my eyes."

[sinful adder]

That's old dialogue and might not be canon

[honest ferry]

i suppose

but i dont know who else could do smth like that

[sinful adder]

The mechanic and steampunker seem like good examples of the best mortal engineers available, with technology that is maybe a half a century behind real life, but enhanced by magic

[warm gull]

cortana

[plucky juniper]

i remembered cyborg used to say something like "Draedon? He's a little... high octane"

[sinful adder]

Yeah

That's all from old lore

I hope calamity does a rewrite of all the NPC dialogue to make it make any sense

Because vanilla dialogue contradicts itself often

[agile matrix]

i feel like it'd be like

cosmically rapturous if an npc or important character said something along hte lines of "Draedon? That old fool?"

it would be so funny but also so not in lore

[raven brook]

I mean it depends on the character
Though i have no idea who'd call him thar

[agile matrix]

likely someone with far too much pride in their pants

[raven brook]

The idea of an inventor who thinks theyre better than draedon is really funng honestly

[agile matrix]

(and not Yharim)

[raven brook]

I think they should keep that

[agile matrix]

imagine we meet the wulfrum guy whos strung up to a buncha wires and shit and he just fuckin hates draedon without outdated knowldedge

with*

like "He's out there slinging steam and handling rusted bolts. My stuff never ages!"

circa [current time]

(is miserably unaware of the outside world and has NOT seen Draedons New Shit)

[raven brook]

Unsure of how true that is because alot of npc quotes were added after the rewrite

I don't think there's anything outlandish about people who are Not Draedon being able to make a cyborg

[agile matrix]

i mean its just some computer and a little hopes and prayer

[raven brook]

I mean, look at you

You can craft some pretty advanced stuff

The arms dealer sells you a minigun

[agile matrix]

a minigun is just

is

hold on

[raven brook]

It's a gun but it's a fairly modern sort of gun

It's not a blunderbuss or flintlock pistol

[agile matrix]

its a thingy that spins really fast and hits a buncha things really fast??

my gun knowledge is pittance

[raven brook]

It's entirely plausible people like the mechanic could make the cyborg imo

[raven brook]

Yeah

Minishark

[agile matrix]

no i mean like

how does a mingun

work

like Actually

[raven brook]

Idk

Im not a gunsmith

I think its a barrel that spins rapidly yea

Shooting a bu ch of bullets

[agile matrix]

from what im seeing they load a buncha bullets into a buncha barrels, and then Flintlock it

and then they spin the barrel

[sinful adder]

About that: the cyborg has like 3 different contradictory origin stories in the game at the same time even without calamity

[agile matrix]

itd be really funny if that was a gimmick of his character

[sinful adder]

Vanilla lore, even the stuff in the game, is nonsense

[agile matrix]

no one knows where this guy comes from

[sinful adder]

Anyways I've been thinking about a character I want to do who's a robot with organic parts. Like a fully artificial cyborg

Not built by draedon, possibly built by rebel scientists but the process of growing it took too long and the war already ended

[agile matrix]

made of wulfrum or other fantastic metal

[sinful adder]

Would probably contain a little wulfrum

Would also probably be partly broken due to the lab being damaged

This explains why they start weak

[raven brook]

Yeah my point is is that i don't see how the story about cyborg's origin is "old lore"

Since it makes perfect sense and i reckon if there was any problem with it they woulda removed it by now given vanilla npc quotes got updated already

[sinful adder]

It was added when old lore was canon

[raven brook]

Also i looked through vanilla quotes and couldn't find anything about cyborg's origin

Ik the mechanic is shown repairing him in the credits but thats about it from what i can tell

Oh wait it's in the bestiary

[sinful adder]

The bestiary and happiness dialogue added in 1.4.whatever contradict his original dialogue from earlier

[raven brook]

"The Cyborg was built with the combined efforts of the Mechanic and the Steampunker to aid in rocket science and world defense."

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[light linden]

hey uh

[raven brook]

Don't see how the happiness quotes contradict it though

[light linden]

can I ask a thing

[raven brook]

yeah

[light linden]

or are y'all busy?

[sinful adder]

All the dialogue he has from post 1.4 makes his personality completely change compared to older dialogue

[raven brook]

Yeah but that's like

irreelvant to this

They dont contradict his origin

[sinful adder]

They do. He acts like he doesn't know the steampunker

[raven brook]

I also don't see how

No he dosen't

[light linden]

do we know anything about the sulphurous sea pre azafure?

[sinful adder]

In old dialogue yes

[raven brook]

Not rly

[sinful adder]

Also he's not a cyborg if he was built

[raven brook]

Other than it being a non-sulphurous sea i guess

[raven brook]

Semantics :p

[sinful adder]

It's not just semantics, he was originally intended as one thing and then retconned without removing the original thing

[raven brook]

There's this but eh you can get an explanation for it

Terraria lore is not that deep

oops

image took too long too load that message was supposed to be sent after

Anyways terraria lore is like not that deep i think you're overthinkign it

It's barely even lore really its just little bits of worldbuilding and flavour text

[sinful adder]

Calamity lore is, and so it should replace vanilla lore

[raven brook]

Alot of the time i see this sorta antagonistic sentiment towards terraria lore by calamity lore fans

which like

yeah its not deep or makes that much sesne

because its not trying to be

dont judge it as if it was meant to be like a super cohesive story because it never was meant to be one 😭

guys mario lore is such a mess. how does the little plumber man stomp on turtles and defeat them?????????

that makes no sense???

[sinful adder]

It makes perfect sense. I don't like what it is

[cosmic zenith]

I think it could be interesting with more effort

Ironically, I think Terraria's content is more narratively interesting than its written lore

Obsidian towers, the Dungeon, the Sky houses, the abandoned houses underground, vikings, a Goblin Army, ancient spirits of light and dark

[raven brook]

It's weird too because i don't see this sorta sentiment towards other games with little to no narrative focus tbh

[cosmic zenith]

It'd be really interesting to cook a story out of these elements

[raven brook]

If anything what i see people doing more often is going wow this stuff is interesting i should write lore for it because there's not any/expand on it's lore because there's too little

but atleast with the calamity lore community it feels muc hless like that

and much more directly antagonistic

It's treating terraria lore on the same standards as calamity lore which imo is just

the wrong way to approach it

calamity lore is an actual Story with alot of thought and work put into its worldbuilding and plot

terraria lore is a side thing for funsies

terraria dosen't even have a dedicated writer team or anything 😭

[cosmic zenith]

I wouldn't say standards, more like tone
Terraria just doesn't take lore as seriously as Calamity and the lore it does have is tonally distinct from Calamity's

[raven brook]

i LOVE calamity lore like im absolutely obsessed with it! but also adding anything like it to vanilla terraria woudl just not be a good move cuz its not what terraria's about

[cosmic zenith]

It'd be like comparing Shrek 2 to Lord of the Rings

[raven brook]

Yeah that's what i mean

Terraria isn't much about lore. The lore is just a fun little side thing that dosen't take itself too eriously

[cosmic zenith]

They're great movies but they're handled very differently

[raven brook]

Calamity is much more about its story than Terraria is

And while Calamity isn't absent from lighthearted elements, it takes itself much more seriously and is far more grounded

Like there's no complex characters or meaningful message or symbolism to terraria's story

it's just a simple

"ay go kill the bad guy!"

story

[cosmic zenith]

Tbh Calamity would benefit from some more lighthearted stuff

[raven brook]

and it's Fine as that

[raven brook]

I agree

Which is why you need to make Crabulon a disco dancer

[cosmic zenith]

*cough* Cloudful Chronicles *cough*

[raven brook]

I think for what Calamity's general story is - A world that has been wrought by tragedy, but is in the proccess of recovering, specially with your actions ofr basically cleaning up the remaining Horrors left behind and ending the legacy of the crusade

A good tone would be "Takes itself seriously, can be pretty dark at times, but also can still afford to have lighthearted moments"

Not to bring my favorite game up but in my head it's alot like limbus company in that sense 😭

And i mean i am writing the story for a calamity fangame that is even more story-focused than calmaity itself cuz linear story so

[cosmic zenith]

A lot like Rain World..............

https://tenor.com/view/im-taking-you-to-rain-world-you-are-going-to-rain-world-rain-world-gif-27434183

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-rain-world-the-worm-pond-leech-pond-gif-26890180

[cosmic zenith]

After all, it's in the moments of warm respite that people are reminded of why they shouldn't give up

I'm fortunate to have had the opportunity of writing a major piece of content that covers exactly that

[raven brook]

And if it's all horror 24/7 constantly it can feel like too much and end up making the story's tension feel less impactful

[cosmic zenith]

Depends on how it's handled

That's the famous grimdark genre, and it can fit some twists and turns within its inherently hopeless setting

[raven brook]

even Eva has some breaks on it to not make it overwhelming (In a bad way)

Fear and Hunger 2 is another really good example

both are really damn dark stories but they give moments of rest for the audience

so they can actually connect with the characters, take in what happened in the story prior, etc

[cosmic zenith]

Me writing a grimdark story would be cursed as fuck

[raven brook]

ive thought abt it before

unsure if i'm ready to handle that though

grimdark stories are like

if you miss you get abysmal dogshit. so many "grimdark" stories that just suck and are just "torture p*rn" basically

howevetr

if you hit you oftne get absolute cinema

evangelion and berserk are extremely acclaimed after all

but it's hard

they reqeuire alot of writing skill and a delicate balance to make work

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

Grimdark usually (from what I observe) draws tension and narrative drive from character development and, on a broader scale, subversion of hope

The former always has been a tricky subject, and the later is between Scylla and Charybdis in the sense that it needs to, simultaneously, provide enough sufficiently-convincing reason to hope to get readers past the skepticism and not generate enough positive change that it breaks the genre's rules

TLDR, it needs the perfect bait

One of my favorite genres is actually its opposite, hopepunk, especially when its setting greatly challenges the positive traits of the characters

I love seeing people struggle to bring positive change to a world that keeps fucking them up, whether they triumph over it or get broken by it

[ruby heart]

they arent really cultists though, dog of godma wasnt really a cult leader or something. They are mostly people who lived during these gods era or heard of it and follow their beliefs and desires .. need to do proper concept art for them

[long bloom]

the cult yharim was in wasn't a cult??

[ruby heart]

is it called literally a cult rn. i personally was planning to go for a diferent thing with the 2 gods because we have so many cults rn

like we have providence, god of sacrifices, the dragon cult

and i feel like there is more im forgetting

[long bloom]

it's referred to as the god cult among loreheads

[ruby heart]

i had the ideia of it being more as some sort of a proper society, built around these gods. with a lot of quotes, some sort of god dragon aerie

rather than cathedral number 3, dogma edition

like rn most of the gods relations we see are through cults, which is a bit boring

[long bloom]

yeah ur idea is probably more interesting

[plucky juniper]

everything ive heard about the dogma group makes me think they're a cult

Then again, what we refer to as Cults have changed over the years

[ruby heart]

i mean what you have heard of it is like

ancient stuff when the character was not even real or planned

just nameless god ™

same for the current ingame stuff

[plucky juniper]

they threw yharim into lava for refusing to eat Yharon's soul
they dont sound really sane to begin with

[long bloom]

yeah i think the last information was a few months ago when stip said yharim was probably some kind of slave

[plucky juniper]

but then again, even cults can create "society"

[ruby heart]

that wasnt them but a part of the people in that said society

possibly the more radical

(i dont think its ever mentioned the gods themselves threw yharim )

[plucky juniper]

i never said the gods thesmelves, only the cult

[ruby heart]

im being honest, i still find personally the whole lava thing with the egg in hand a bit goofy (personally)

[plucky juniper]

FUCK

I CALLED THEM CULT

[plucky juniper]

i feel ya man

[ruby heart]

like if they wanted to kill this guy why would they throw him in lava while holding the super rare and powerful dragon egg

it feels like its there just to connect with the old yharim lore

[plucky juniper]

i feel like it would've been more convincing if, say, it was a rash moment because yharim did something that pissed the entire group

[ruby heart]

if its a super radical part of said society built around gods, it could make a bit more sense

but the actual gods doing that to yharim would be very dumb

[plucky juniper]

so much that they didnt even think about the egg, only about fucking over yharim for what he did

[long bloom]

so he was already gonna die but some random people threw him into lava instead because uhhhhh?

[ruby heart]

🥹 so yharim execution was throwing him into lava with the last dragon egg that holds the power of possible immortality

[long bloom]

wouldn't execution be carried out by the "government"

[ruby heart]

it would always be a really dumb thing to do because even if yharim does die

yharon either gets revived and they have to hunt it again, losing the egg

or if the egg is destroyed and yharon dies fr, they lose their only key to eternity and immortality

[long bloom]

otherwise it's just a lynching

[ruby heart]

anyway god of dogma isnt really meant to be a comically evil cult leader, with some purple robed people following him around or something

[ruby heart]

i mean the text you sent dont really say if the execution was the lava throwing or not

do think if this lava thing, if it is kept as is, would make more sense if it was done by a really radical group of said society, considering how it was done

[light linden]

hey triangle?

when was yharim being nearly executed made public?

[ruby heart]

?

like in the story?

[light linden]

yes

[ruby heart]

[light linden]

curious about if my interpretation about something could be possible

[long bloom]

it's basically the only thing kept from old lore

[ruby heart]

depends on how important yharim was to said society and the overall world (i would say he was very important considering he was being prepared to be the god king, and was under god of dogma and war )

[light linden]

for context

[ruby heart]

the information problably spreaded very quickly if i were to guess from eye witness and tellings

[light linden]

I'm wondering if the chorus of Ignite My Flame could be in regards to his sentencing

[long bloom]

so if the execution wasn't the lava throwing, then why did they do that
he was gonna die anyway

[ruby heart]

what is your reply for?

no i mean the execution planned by the "goverment" being lava throwing with the egg in hands is really dumb if its the actual case

like unless the gods and stuff have 0 iq they wouldnt have done that

[long bloom]

your message implies the possibility of the sentenced execution and the lava throwing being different

[ruby heart]

that why i think it could only make sense if it was made by a part of said society that is really radical

[ruby heart]

misunderstood a thing you typed.. fate of 4am

yharim could have never died if he had ash wood armor and a singular obsidian rose

lava charm..

anyway i still feel like yharim execution could be better explored and done later on.. rn it feels like its like this due to old lore, while not making much sense to the story itself (unless the characters are really dumb)

[long bloom]

about the plan being stupid, there was a very lengthy discussion about it a while ago and i think a solution was reached:

it obviously would've taken a while to raise this guy and mold him into the perfect leader, so when he refused they'd need to do that whole process over again

and assuming the time which yharim was planned to absorb yharon's soul was close to him hatching, they probably wanted to get rid of the egg to reset the rebirth process lest they have a very angry dragon that they have to kill again

and nobody could've forseen the lava making him hatch immediately

[ruby heart]

they wouldnt want to get rid of the egg ever because it was a key to one of their main plans

[long bloom]

yeah but they could just go back to the aerie and get it back

[plucky juniper]

i want to punch whoever thought that last part was a good idea

[ruby heart]

and its better to have control of where yharon will be than killing the egg and have yharon rebirth very far in the aerie

they already slayed it once, when it was stronger

[plucky juniper]

because otherwise i think a lot of that tracks

[ruby heart]

they for sure can slay a newly hatched yharon

[plucky juniper]

just.

NOT

[long bloom]

but they'd still have to go back to the aerie to get the egg either way

[plucky juniper]

theres just too much hoops to justify why nobody would even forsee the funny fire bird would resurrect from lava

its just

gjakerdsglmaserdfl

[ruby heart]

to the point i think they wanting to execute yharim himself also is a bit problematic, but its more understandable (they spent years training, preparing, teaching this guy to be the god king ). but like killing him while holding the key to immortality and eternity

is like gah

[plucky juniper]

like its said the God of Dogma was from Xeroc's time as well

[ruby heart]

do we even know if eggs can be destroyed, and if they can do they spawn on the aerie as a egg again? and also the soul dont need the dragon to be hatched to be absorved considering silva ascended from life dragon egg

[long bloom]

it was also mentioned (by i think stip) that yharim "upending their scheme" can be interpreted as him wrecking shit on his way out

[ruby heart]

yea both were monks at the same time although xeroc is older

like the entire egg lava thing is

to work with

it just reduces all characters to room temperature iq

[long bloom]

triangle silva's ascension isn't public

[plucky juniper]

like it only works if the execution was a very rash decision done because yharim did something that pissed everyone off

[ruby heart]

yea

[long bloom]

i think that's fine

[plucky juniper]

and not something done in advance

[ruby heart]

or if it was done by a really radical outside group and not by the gods themselves or the higher ups

who decided to act quickly and took a really bad decision

[plucky juniper]

unless yharim explicitly decided to carry the egg with him to troll everyone

[ruby heart]

like the gods arent stupid, they could have safely stored the egg, sent yharim to jail, 10 thousands of other things could have been done

throwing him in lava (which if we go by base game is very survivable if you are a minimally strong individual) while holding the key to eternity and their main goal is?

[long bloom]

how do you store the egg if it's that close to hatching, so much that a bit of lava induced it immediately

[ruby heart]

like even if yharim didnt survive, so many things could get out of control

[ruby heart]

if they knew it is that close to hatching

then it makes the plan even more stupid

🥹

yes, lets throw this powerful guy we trained and want to kill/betray into lava while they are holding a soon to be hatching powerful dragon and also the main item we need for our mission

[long bloom]

having yharon alive there would be a detriment i think

even if they wait for him to hatch and then kill him, his soul still teleports to the aerie

same outcome as just destroying the egg

[ruby heart]

so they give it to the guy that is soon to be executed

like it just dont make any sense to the story line

and for the characters themselves to act in this way

[long bloom]

whar

[light linden]

tbh

[ruby heart]

giving the almost hatching egg to yharim, who is soon to be executed

[light linden]

I always interpreted it as the god of dogma and war being petty

[long bloom]

is it even implied they physically handed him the egg? i don't think it is

[light linden]

"Oh you want to keep it alive? It'll be executed with you then!"

[ruby heart]

but they arent meant to be petty though ,and that isnt being petty but instead really dumb

god of dogma would only be petty with yharon too, and i think having his soul be used to keep the gods alive forever would be a much worse punishment

than being sent to lava

[ruby heart]

they atleast kept it with him for the execution

[long bloom]

i feel like you'd wanna emotionally damage the guy that just wasted the last 20 years of your life and a shit ton of effort

[ruby heart]

and throwing him with the nearly hatching very powerful dragon egg isnt it

if they trully wanted to be evil and emotionally damage yharim too, there is better methods than lava throwing

[long bloom]

idk i think it works

[ruby heart]

it doesn't

principally considering what yharon soul and egg is part of for said gods

[long bloom]

so lets say they keep the egg. and it hatches so they have to kill yharon again
his soul teleports to the aerie and reforms into an egg eventually

that's exactly the same outcome as just destroying the egg, but with the added effort of killing him post hatching

[ruby heart]

except

there isnt the possibility of the egg hatching there and yharon escaping

or yharon helping yharim or multiple other fuck ups

it would be a controled death

[long bloom]

i think it's unreasonable to assume they would consider the possibility of the lava instantly hatching him
that's pretty unintuitive as far as animals go

[ruby heart]

like its full of holes the more you think about it.. and it would only work if the god characters are really reckless or dumb

[eager bluff]

ok but how would they know this happens

like

[ruby heart]

didnt you say they knew the egg was almost hatching?

and that why they threw it in the lava and didnt properly store it

[long bloom]

what would proper storage look like

triangle that's not public

[eager bluff]

triangle

[plucky juniper]

fridge

[eager bluff]

stop leaking shit

[real glen]

ph my

[eager bluff]

for fucks sake

[real glen]

oh my

[long bloom]

[ruby heart]

does this even matter though, anyway its almost impossible to know what is public and what is not but well whatever

in private stuff ™ a private group ™ keeps a private egg ™ in storage methods already

[light linden]

triangle we've literally got nothing else to talk about

idt we've had a lore drop in like a month

[ruby heart]

it literally could be a box, magical pouch whatever it dont matter

it isnt the main thing im talking about

[long bloom]

so what you're saying is there's methods of storing dragon eggs that entirely prevent hatching?

[ruby heart]

did i say that

[long bloom]

idk that's why i'm asking

if that's true it would be new information

[ruby heart]

anyway this is better discussed in dev later.. which i might possibly (the yharim lava egg thing)

[long bloom]

👍

[ruby heart]

is it really that dry

[ruby heart]

and im also going to be honest

this information is really a nothing burger, idk why its even private

but if its not public and it also isnt mine.. i wont talk about it

[light linden]

yes

and to my knowledge brainstorm won't help either

since the bestiary rewrite got delayed

[ruby heart]

dragon eggs being used for ascencion is already a known thing and part of a main story line (yharim), the certain character who ascended with it domain and stuff is already known and basic information, and it wont really impact anything ingame or majorly for the story

[ruby heart]

principally not warranting a reaction like this

its already hard to keep yourself up with the lore tbh, considering a lot of it sometimes isnt documented or just talked about in a channel, keeping tabs in what is public or not is even more principally for the non major (and actually important stuff) it justs make interacting with the lore as a dev hard to do

[long bloom]

yeah it's a lot to keep track of

[ruby heart]

and a lot of it now is aparently done or talked about in lore related server groups with public users, making it even harder to track or know of (i cant say much about that though because i do that myself sometimes) and considering how you reacted to it, the silva thing was already talked about that in one of these

like if you want more devs to want to properly interact and participate on lore (which do be a thing nowadays which is good, there is more dev users besides the writers contributing and interacting with the story), but at the same time make it hard to aproach or talk about, or know of

[long bloom]

hopefully tyrant can reformat the introductory doc soon so it's actually readable

[ruby heart]

or "gatekeep" stuff

like i dont really have the time to know if yharon liking to eat spaghetti is a public fact or not, and having to fully account for that every single time i want to interact with the story make it really undesirable to do so or tiring (off course there is major stuff like distortion things that make sense being super private and stuff or stuff related to major plans)

and like even the doc dont have real information

like these arent even real or part of the actual story, or never were mentioned in dev (well heartland was but it was never fully accepted or confirmed)

it was mostly stuff said for fun in a private lore related server

[light linden]

I'm like

80% sure I recall a dev mentioning telma

[long bloom]

i know ibipaua was canonized at some point

[ruby heart]

it wasnt

and i already asked in said server if it was a real thing or not, it isnt

it was never mentioned in dev too

[light linden]

oh for the love of

[long bloom]

.

[ruby heart]

i mean i can say right now piggies get a increase in power by eating coins, and can be stronger than a auric dragon

[long bloom]

i'd believe it

[ruby heart]

its rp only

it shouldnt be in the doc

neither the other continents

[long bloom]

what the fuck cei

[ruby heart]

like its fine i guess if you want to believe its real and stuff, but it shouldnt be in the main doc that is meant to agregrate the main public information for the story

it just make stuff really confusing

the dragon of order is already known right

[long bloom]

no

[ruby heart]

wait both are in the doc.. but as diferent beings

[long bloom]

wait what

??????????

it's not in orios chart but why the fuck is it there

and seperate

[ruby heart]

well whatever, yea auric soul of order is the one god of war used to ascend

there isnt a point to keep it private, its like

tought it was public already

but yea i think if this doc is meant to be a guide of public known information of the story, it should be more factual.. (like not having rp only continents that dont really serve much for the main story)

[long bloom]

well we were all under the impression those 2 were canon
or the names at least

[plucky juniper]

yeah either this is triangle being horribly out of the loop or there might be some problems with the lore writers' communication skills

[ruby heart]

Im not out of the loop

( unless it was talked about in private servers or only here, in which case guh, its not my fault )

[warm gull]

what a condescending way to put it

[ruby heart]

But last time i checked, which wasnt a while ago, its rp only stuff

[warm gull]

oh my god is this happening again 😭

[long bloom]

fym again

[ruby heart]

What is happening again..

Did a thing like this happen before

[warm gull]

people conflating rp stuff with canon calamity lore

[ruby heart]

That doc is full of that tbh

Like some dragon names

Or well not full

But the continents are for sure

[long bloom]

well this time it was the writers apparently

[ruby heart]

Please tell me the doc dont say yharim came from calamity brasil

[warm gull]

as far as rebecca has told me, the dragon of order is canon calamity content

[ruby heart]

🥹

Order dragon is yea

[long bloom]

we're aware those are unconfirmed

[warm gull]

the dragon of order is also canon in the roleplay, though. war ascended from him

[long bloom]

stip said he'll bring them up in dev Eventually™

[ruby heart]

That is true too, to calamity story

[warm gull]

the dragon of violence isn't a roleplay thing, so where did it come from???

[long bloom]

really old dev statement iirc

[warm gull]

yeah I know

[long bloom]

or just a bad assumption

[warm gull]

which is why Im so confused about the dragon of violence related domain

[ruby heart]

dont know either

Its just order

I mean initially we talked about it being the dragon of wrath and other stuff

But that was all indev

Dont matter much

[warm gull]

uh yeah the dragon of order is known

idk why you said that

[long bloom]

i thought it wasn't

since there's no messages about it here

and it's not on orios chart

[ruby heart]

Dev statements should be less treated as a gospel though..

Sometimes a user is just talking about possible ideias

Or stuff they would like, but arent real ( yet ) or confirmed

[long bloom]

yeah everything subject to change

[ruby heart]

Or if you want, have a section like the future doc has of possible stuff

Although idk if its needed

[warm gull]

to be fair, not like people have a lot to go on that isnt dev statements

[ruby heart]

That is true

[long bloom]

i think it'll be better when more than 10% of the lore is implemented yeah

[ruby heart]

which makes it really confusing and annoying to talk about lore publically

[eager bluff]

(and a lot of dev statements are said in a very factual matter rather than a "we're thinking about doing x" or whatever)

[long bloom]

true...

i've noticed stip is really the only one that regularly specifies when stuff is just ideas or personal opinions

[ruby heart]

Which is good

stip user

[warm gull]

I think the only dragon in the roleplay whose fate doesn't align with canon, is the dragon of frost

everything else more or less follows what actually happens to them

[ruby heart]

What is dragon of frost in rp?

[warm gull]

frost might even get retconned if someone has an idea

I just put it in cuz we needed something for the god of Thorns to ascend from and its like, vaguely relatable

and I couldnt think of a better domain for thorns to ascend from

(god of thorns being, one of the gods who turned into the crimson/perforators alongside war)

[scenic olive]

chill dragon

bro has no enemies

[split mortar]

The rp based ibipaua on dev statements 😭

[split mortar]

Dai no ibipaua literally was said by cei to exist earlier and it was then just never told to us it werent canon

[long bloom]

yeah i linked the message

[pulsar ocean]

can yharim double jump if hes brazillian

[green prairie]

he probably has a jetpack or something in his armor, or i'd assume he does at least

[long bloom]

if he's strong enough to cleave a small mountain in half i think he can just jump that high

[green prairie]

he probably has some kind of dragon blessing or augment or whatever that lets him hover

[long bloom]

as far as we know the only things attunement gives you are an increased lifespan and the ability to use auric

[wheat walrus]

Yharim was a kind and ethical leader who was respectful towards the gods and forgave them despite their cruel origins because present actions are all that mattered to him ✌️🏳️ one day he got jumped by the nefarious duo of Braelor and Statis who, with the help of the now-corrupt and evil goddess Silva of doom and despair, ran an organization dedicated to kidnapping, capturing and killing other gods 🥹☠️ he gave his all against them, but was outmatched by their evil dirty fighting techniques 🥀💔 that is until the virtuous devourer of gods came in and rescued the valiant Yharim, by disarming Statis and sending Braelor to prison 🌹❤️‍🩹 Braelor and Statis were only good buddies by the way, chums, besties even, amigos 🤝🫂

[green prairie]

i will not accept this silva slander

i dont care about braelor and statis because they probably smell bad

[pulsar ocean]

naoya was a kind hearted leader of the zen'in clan
and a feminist

[wheat walrus]

see you get it

[final kindle]

that makes a lot of sense

[wheat walrus]

Calamitas was a godless, horrible child of destruction who loved torching the kind and god-loving civilians of Azafure on the daily and sentencing their innocent souls to eternal torment 😰☠️ one day, the ever-graceful Brimstone Elemental tried to reason with her, but the wretched child burnt all of her own family members in retaliation and beat up the elemental, destroying Azafure 💥😱 after this, she realized that she was a horrible person and decided to join Yharim's military to turn a new leaf, she would purify and reason with towns of evil god cultists who sacrificed child soldiers to feed their own wretched evil gods ❤️‍🩹🌹 eventually, she ran unto the irredeemable and vile Ilmeris kingdom ran by the malicious, nefarious, horrible, terrible Otonilou and the evil bum fraud Tyrian who could never match Yharim, she tried to reason with them but to no avail, so she gave them a tan and a boiled pasta of kindness and purification 💖🥹 some time later, the evil spirit of the wretched Otonilou began taking over Calamitas and made her regress into a horrible adult of destruction, she decided to seal her ever-vigilant and caring father figure Permafrost in the Cryogen, Yharim tried to explain her that she was committing to wrongdoings, but it did not work and she fled because even she couldn't bring herself to harm the handsome, loving, kind, caring and wholesome Yharim 💔🥀 at some point, she broke into the smart and compassionate and all-caring Draedon the scientist's laboratory, releasing all of his incomplete experiment and causing widespread natural disasters 😢😨

[long bloom]

petition to kill omni

[wheat walrus]

i am the mold chimera, you cannot kill me for i am immortal, feasting on your evil temptations

[cloud ibex]

we're killing omni

[wheat walrus]

i always come back

[wheat walrus]

can u nick me to "the mold chimera" like in sscls thanmk u

:3

thankies

[wanton pendant]

Draedon, a benevolent and selfless man, was only trying to create to benefit humanity. He made prosthetic exoskeletons for injured soldiers, modified endangered bees so they can be more resilient and keep pollinating, thus protecting the ecosystem, and he even attempted to create a good version of Calamitas. Too bad that tyrannical witch cruelly attacked, and corrupted the mind of their clone with radical ideas like selfishness, tax evasion, and arson.

[wheat walrus]

so true wuwugee

❤️‍🩹

[final kindle]

peak

[reef wigeon]

What the hell happened here

Anyway... Sephiroth solos Calamity Mod, obviously

[spare pier]

The continents are things we want to bring to Cal eventually to expand on the world, but afaik none of them besides Ibipaua have names or more than their surface level content really planned

Everything besides that and a few characters birthplaces isn't even being discussed in Dev yet and is just a byproduct of RP development

[wheat walrus]

Was Yharim a kind and ethical leader

[spare pier]

Yes, actually!

If you were on his side

[wheat walrus]

You see, EVERYONE was by side‼️

He loved everyone EQUALLY ❤️‍🩹

[spare pier]

True...

[icy veldt]

That just makes him even more evil!

[warm gull]

why are you assuming I was talking about that exact thing melongun

[dusk laurel]

wood crate

[split mortar]

Because that was the topic that was happening while you said that

[arctic marlin]

do u guys like the lore

[split mortar]

Yes?

[arctic marlin]

sick dude

[robust osprey]

yes we're natives of lore discussion

we eat lore

we read lore

we live lore

[warm gull]

no it wasn't bruh

it was there being like a dragon of violence or something that apparently someone thought was from the rp

did you read up like 5 messages above where you replied to me

[split mortar]

Whats worse is that i did and still fucked that up

[long bloom]

tupid gun

[robust osprey]

average melon gun

[split mortar]

Meanies

[dusk laurel]

melon gun moment

[robust osprey]

bullies you to death

[split mortar]

[young socket]

throws tomatoes and rocks at you

[robust osprey]

ok thats enough

gives you a second siffrin plush

[young socket]

takes away the first siffrin plush

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/please-dont-become-a-sticker-isat-in-stars-and-time-siffrin-plush-gif-16606780821430028845

[dusk laurel]

blows up the second siffrin plush

[split mortar]

[robust osprey]

it's resistant to blowing up

[warm gull]

melon gun embed

[reef wigeon]

Uuuuuhh... What RP are you even talking about?

Oh, and BUENAS BUENAS!

[robust osprey]

hi

[reef wigeon]

Oh You Know What That Means Thats Pretty Cool Actually LOL

[split mortar]

A few devs and people in this server are in a calamity rp

[reef wigeon]

Oh i see

And what were you talking about?

[split mortar]

-# could be refering to multiple conversations

[reef wigeon]

Well, about that rp

[long bloom]

ideas for the other 4 continents on terraria

[feral skiff]

what rp exactly?

[reef wigeon]

I see

[feral skiff]

there’s an official calamity RP?

[long bloom]

very unofficial

[reef wigeon]

The more unofficial, the better

[robust osprey]

we have devs in it it's clearly official

[reef wigeon]

[wanton pendant]

They have t-shirts, a movie, a theme park, and a game trilogy based on it.

[warm gull]

you literally asked this in response to an message that was answering this exact question

[wanton pendant]

They also have me held hostage, and are demanding 250,000 USD, please donate.

[robust osprey]

silence

you will be sent to the mines

[reef wigeon]

Uhhhh

[warm gull]

what

[reef wigeon]

Que

[wanton pendant]

I don't speak Canadian.

[robust osprey]

I dont speak waterian

[warm gull]

canadians vs the concept of fear

[reef wigeon]

But that was...

[robust osprey]

forbidden language

[livid wasp]

can i speak mexican language here

[reef wigeon]

Mexican?

What

[robust osprey]

also

it's qué

:3

[scenic olive]

why you dont smelt auric ore is still a mystery to me

[split mortar]

Maybe its already pure and the process to mock attune a few bars is just extremely inefficient and makes a lot of waste
-# we dunno

[scenic olive]

the 'process' requires you to have cosmic anvil

theres no intermediate process from smelting ore then getting bars

like does it just shrink when you mock attune it

what the hell is auric ore even, is it just essence or the auric soul that seeped into rocks or has it always been there

[light linden]

my guess is that it's pieces of world soul too small to be given to a dragon

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, i know

The lack of an accent mark is a humorous touch :3