lore-discussion

[latent flower]

no funn

[plucky lichen]

Dogs

[latent flower]

fine i rephrase

[raven brook]

in fact i think he sounds like extremely puntable

[latent flower]

very nice art

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[plucky lichen]

Thank you!!

[latent flower]

big fan of charlie slimecicle

[raven brook]

but i'm really interestd in what he looks like

[latent flower]

:)

[raven brook]

i dont know why

i just am

i just want to know what god of dogma looks like

[plucky lichen]

I’ll draw him

[raven brook]

i dont feel this way towards any other character

[plucky lichen]

En

Rn

[raven brook]

i just really need to know. what god of dogma looks like

bitch ass dogma i hate him

[latent flower]

big propaganda poster

[raven brook]

like everything is his fault and he sounds incredibly puntable

like yharim sucks but he dosent sound puntable

dogma does

[latent flower]

why is dogma so evil

isnt he just the purple

[raven brook]

idk we dunno much about him

[latent flower]

how is everythung his fault

😭

[raven brook]

hes the one who indoctrinated yharim

he was the leader of the god cult

[latent flower]

wgat

[plucky lichen]

I looked up what dogma meant for this

[latent flower]

NONE of this is ingame 😭

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLEE

[plucky lichen]

This is him

[raven brook]

thank you lainey

[raven brook]

god of dogmas existence isnt ingame even

hes not mentioned even once, neither him nor the god of war

[latent flower]

god of

[raven brook]

even though theyre some of the most important gods in the entire mod probably

[young socket]

yharim rarely mentions his past

[latent flower]

https://tenor.com/view/nepunator-cat-kratos-god-of-war-log-gif-14553530843120657664

[plucky lichen]

Corruption and crimson 💔

[raven brook]

triangle wants to add shitling cultist npcs that you can find in ur world that talk about them

[young socket]

its in like crabulon whisper and yharon whisper and thats basically it

[raven brook]

they spawn in the evil biomes in pre hm or smth

[latent flower]

evil biomes should get redone

this is poop

how it is rn

compared to what theyre supposed to be

[dusk laurel]

not that different

[plucky lichen]

It is red and I like the color red

It is purple and I like the color purple

I like red more

Though

[latent flower]

we need a blue one now

[dusk laurel]

other vanilla biomes are way different from how cal wants to work with them than the corruption and crimson

[latent flower]

to complete the colors

[dusk laurel]

like the underworld

[raven brook]

Post moon lord evil enemies tommorow

[dusk laurel]

god bless the stupid rectangle apartments that make no sense

[plucky lichen]

Azafure azafure Eris azafure

[dusk laurel]

arch wyvern post moon lord maybe im not coping 🙏

[raven brook]

ancient wyverns that were some of the first to be born and have much more of vetrasyls power flowing in them

give them electricity powers

gg

[long scaffold]

Budget Storm Weaver

[dusk laurel]

?

[latent flower]

whats a vetrasyl

[raven brook]

storm dragon

wyverns r his descendants

[dusk laurel]

the dragon of storms thats not mentioned ingame yet

[latent flower]

[dusk laurel]

what did you expect there hasnt been a major update is almost 2 years

[raven brook]

i gthink over 2 years by now

[dusk laurel]

bh was in may 2024...

[latent flower]

they better be cooking

[raven brook]

believe me devs Wish they could release an major update already

I mean

that's the entire reason brainstorm happened

😭

got too tired of not being able to release a major update

or well not the E ntire reason but part of it

[dusk laurel]

also theres like 3 writers with a couple of the other devs helping out and the main lore content being worked on is heavily tied to sso

[latent flower]

okkk

i just want more updates for da mod i like

:(

i feel like it would be better to do many small updates

[dusk laurel]

theres some non sso lore stuff that also was worked on (vanilla bestiary changes) but its being redone apparently

[latent flower]

the major updates are too concentrated

[dusk laurel]

thats the goal

[latent flower]

like weapon reworks and lore inclusions and stuff could just be released whenever theyre done

instead of saving it all for the big drop

[dusk laurel]

the devs had a habit of trying to tack on all of their miscellaneous work to major updates and its definitely distracted from sso development and also just made the update less focused

[raven brook]

The problem is that lore inclusion relies on other things

They're trying to make lore implementation actually good and thus integrated through things like enviromental storytelling, new dialogue trees, cutscenes, etc

Cuz as it is rn the lore implementatiion is kinda . Not Good

[latent flower]

well yas but vetrasyl existing doesnt rely on sso 😭

[raven brook]

It's basically all given to you in the form of Text Walls that feel very artifical

[latent flower]

nor does god of war existing or god of dogma existing

[raven brook]

I meannn kinda relies on the sky rework

[latent flower]

i dont think it does

[raven brook]

Again

[latent flower]

im not saying big lore drops

[raven brook]

They don't wanna just give the player a item with text talking abt a character

like how it basically is rn

Because it's frankly a really bad way of implementing lore

They're actively trying to avoid that sort of thing

[latent flower]

but like, even the npcs you were talking about in the evil biomes dont need to be wrapped up in sso

[dusk laurel]

those arent in sso

[raven brook]

Those haven't even been started to be worked on

[latent flower]

well where the heck are they

😭

[raven brook]

They're just an idea that a dev had

[young socket]

they werent planned for sso in the first place

[young socket]

not everything is planned for sso

[latent flower]

these things just dont need to be so far out i dont think

[dusk laurel]

guys sso isnt the lore update its the sso update

[young socket]

[raven brook]

I think ur not rly considering how much work needs to be put into making things

Like, say, said npc

[latent flower]

i have no clue what sso is anymore because its like. trhe everything update

[raven brook]

• Properly discussing and deciding what their lore is, how they tie in the world, what their dialogue is, etc
• What is their actual gameplay function, how do they spawn, how do they interact with the player

And that's the easy part

cuz thats just discussin game deisgn

For the actual production pat?

[latent flower]

ya im not saying it needs to be out right now

all im saying is that i think wrapping everything up in these major updates is not a good idea

[raven brook]

It's not out right now because devs are working on other things :p

[dusk laurel]

the devs cant just will their ideas into existence fully programmed and sprited so treating these things as if theyre trivial to implement in a short time frame is well

[raven brook]

Yeah no i agree

It's

why brainstorm exists

Devs awnt to make samller updates, brainstorm was a way for them to get all the non-sso stuff already done for sso, release them

And then take the freed weight of sso hell to actually restructure things and reapproach how they wanna do updates

[latent flower]

i never said this, i had no idea how developed they already were

i know things take effort

but doing one million things takes a lot more effort and a lot more time than doing one thing

[raven brook]

yeah

[latent flower]

so releasing one million things at a time makes every update take way longer

[raven brook]

sso was not Supposed to be this big

[jaunty wraith]

Even with brainstorm sso is coming in 2 parts

[raven brook]

It was made fat and obese through like. the piled up dev team issues, some of which were fabsol, some weren't, which lead to scope creep and lack of organization

again believe me devs Wish they could release this damn update already

Ideally no update will be as big as SSO ever again, or , well

as big as SSO would've been if brainstorm wasn't split from it

[latent flower]

im just saying they can go smaller

[jaunty wraith]

SSO is still gonna be quite hefty

[latent flower]

one item / boss rework at a time

one group of npcs or environmental doodads placed around the evil biomes

[raven brook]

-# yeah what i'm saying is that they're aware and want to do that

-# sso wasn't meant to be this big at all to begin with

-# dev team is stuck in endless fish hell

[latent flower]

ok people just kept bringing up brainstorm

[dusk laurel]

thats because brainstorm is their way of finally stopping the cycle of continuously piling reworks and other changes into the same update

[raven brook]

is now the time ur gonna say u didnt know what brainstorm was

that'd be funny

[latent flower]

no ?

[raven brook]

ok its not that wouldve been rly funny

[latent flower]

i dunno maybe this is an oblivious outsider perspective but if they wanna do the smaller updates so bad i dont think its a big deal to . idk start doing them

anyyy second now

[young socket]

holy fuck

[latent flower]

but brainstorm is coming out in 2

[young socket]

im going to explode watching you

[raven brook]

They
They haven't released brainstorm yet 😭

How are they gonna start making another update hwne they havent even

released this one

and also like

the devs need a break

they've been in Endless Fish Hell for 2 years

[long bloom]

[latent flower]

ya i know

but theres so much

[raven brook]

Yes

because it's

[latent flower]

how many weapons have been reworked

[raven brook]

the content that was sso

aka the Problem

brainstorm is their way of getting rid of The Problem

[long bloom]

these

[latent flower]

yeah . jesus

[raven brook]

they couldnt do smaller updates because of Fish Hell but brainstorm is the way to End Fish Hell

after Brainstorm is Out they can Restructure Things and Reapproach Them and Et Cetera

[young socket]

these arent all reworks

just significant changes

[long bloom]

yeah ik but it gets the point across

[raven brook]

There's a non zero possibility that SSO won't even be the next update after brainstorm just due to how. burnt out the devs are on it

[young socket]

whether thats tier shifts, reworks or visual changes

[latent flower]

im just saying theres so much unreleased non-sso content thats just sitting there

i know its coming in brainstorm

i just dont think brainstorm was the perfect solution

but i appreciate the updates getting split anyway

[raven brook]

What would be a better solution in your eyes

[latent flower]

thats all

[long bloom]

nothing was gonna be perfect, this is sso we're talking about

[raven brook]

Not trying to be inflammatory, just genuinely curious

[latent flower]

so many smaller updates

[raven brook]

Because to me it's kinda the best they could've done

Smaller updates wouldn't have really changed anything

[latent flower]

the content wouldve been

in the game

though

[young socket]

how would that be beneficial when they already have the content to release it?

[raven brook]

They only decided to do the brainstorm split recently, though like

[young socket]

it wouldnt have changed anything

[raven brook]

I guess if this was the mindset way earlier then yeah

that would've been better

[latent flower]

um. yes it wouldve

[young socket]

if anything making it all smaller updates would take longer since thats a lot more beta testing

[latent flower]

because the content isnt the game right now

[raven brook]

But i think that's kinda like, "Well if the problem didnt exist to begin with there would be no problem"< yk

[dusk laurel]

brainstorm was decided in like december

[raven brook]

Brainstorm was content-finished the moment they decided to split it

[young socket]

the content isnt in game since it still needs refinement

refinement that wouldve needed to happen regardless if it was a large update or smaller updates

[latent flower]

a lot of that content is definitely sitting there finished by now

[raven brook]

It was scheduled to be released in januray-februray purely so devs could bugfix and do testing to make sure it was all ready to go

Finishing =/ releasing

[long bloom]

so your solution is to split brainstorm into several more updates?

[latent flower]

my solution is to release stuff as its finished

[long bloom]

that's. what they're doing

with brainstorm

[raven brook]

I think you really do not understand how game development works respectfully

And i'm saying this, as a game developer

Some of ur points are valid but you lack alot of understanding on how the proccess of releasing content works, i think

Like yeah smaller updates def are better for calamity over

[latent flower]

i mean if everything in brainstorm was 80% complete then ya but theres gonna be stuff thats 100% complete and stuff thats like 60% complete

[raven brook]

the gigantic fucking whale known as Sunken Sea Overhaul

[latent flower]

im just saying release the 100% complete stuff

its kinda insane that its been 2 years

[raven brook]

It is! Nobody is denying that

[long bloom]

the amount of things in brainstorm that aren't 100% complete is like
2

[latent flower]

ok perfect

so release them

😭

[raven brook]

Yeah that's

kind of a horrible idea honestly

Ur asking for patches with 1 new feature each

[latent flower]

literally yes

[young socket]

yea spoiler alert

thats fucking horrible

[long bloom]

so minecraft drops but even worse

👍

[latent flower]

how??

i want to use a cool new weapon

why do i need to wait for dog to be reworked

[dusk laurel]

i wasnt going to say anything earlier but why would you make an update that adds like 4 lines of code

[young socket]

its bad for for the community because it can easily break addons without anyone being able to know, for one

[long bloom]

the dog rework has been fully finished for months

[latent flower]

then why am i waiting for months

[young socket]

plus its a big thing to push an update

[young socket]

okay im just gonna

stop right here

[raven brook]

Because the DoG rework was going to be in SSO

[latent flower]

the benefit of small updates is that they dont usually break addons, and if they do then they can fix the break much faster

[raven brook]

It's not anymore

[young socket]

and be a proper asshole to you to make sure you understand

YOURE AN ASS

[raven brook]

You're not asking for small updates

[long bloom]

i don't think that's true actually

[latent flower]

please dont??

[young socket]

youre sounding like an ass right now

[raven brook]

You're asking for patches with 1 new feature

[latent flower]

like what

[raven brook]

Also yes let's not be inflammatory

[dusk laurel]

there should be small updates yes but it gets to a point where

[latent flower]

im not saying EVERY UPDATE needs to be 4 lines of code but if its been years then i definitely dont think thats an entirely bad idea

outside of that case then yknow, little packages

[dusk laurel]

why is it like only 2 changes why couldnt these just be bundled up and released every month or so

[latent flower]

yas exactly

little packages

would be perfect

[raven brook]

For one it completely kills hype for updates. Imagine that rather than looking forward to themed updates to give you new content to refresh your interest in this mod and start new playthroughs with... You're looking forward to the addition of 1 new block. Yay?
And in the actual technical side of things, it means that there'd be Constant updates to the mod which would break compatibility wtih addons as said

[latent flower]

and im especially annoyed because of how long its been

[raven brook]

Yeah it was because of dev team horrors

[latent flower]

so no i would not mind if i got a 4 line of code update

[long bloom]

everyone is
that's why
they made brainstorm

[raven brook]

Fabsol in charge, poor dev communication, lack of structure

The devs are aware of these issues now and trying to fix them and the mod is literally getting its biggest update ever in like. a month at most now

its literally either this month or the next

[long bloom]

if brainstorm didn't exist you'd be waiting until like august for the megafuck update

[raven brook]

been Confirmed already

After that they'll do smaller updates

You're proposals are going to unecessary extreme lenghts for a problem that's already being solved

[latent flower]

having small updates doesnt mean bigger updates cant exist
im all for sso being yknow a sunken sea overhaul and generating a ton of hype and all that
but i also dont think EVERY UPDATE needs to be as hyped as sso because that indicates a content drought

[raven brook]

Yeah

But the problem isn't that it's saying they should add 1 feature at a time

You're arguing for a point that everyone here agrees with as far as i'm concerned

You're just going to extreme lenghts with it

[long bloom]

giant updates bad
small updates good
microscopic updates bad

[raven brook]

Smaller updates good, that's the consensus in both the dev team and in atleast the circles i'm active in

[latent flower]

yea so i didnt really appreciate how randomly antagonizing everyone seemed to get

that was weird

well not everyone but some people

[raven brook]

Yeah there was no need to get inflamattory

[latent flower]

and im going to some extreme lengths sure but again i just dont see the problem

how would a weapon rework break an addon?

[raven brook]

Because it's an update

The addon wasn't built for said update, it was built for a past version of the mod

You update the mod, generally speaking, the addon has gotta update too

I am not a tmod programmer myself and refuse to touch tmod programming but that's as far as i understand anyways

[latent flower]

ok it would take like. five minutes to fix

maximum

and again im really not saying every patch needs to have one weapon

[raven brook]

Dunno how long it'd take or the specifics of it but it's still incovenient

I also think that while people were being inflammatory unecessarily ur arguing for a point unecessarily

Like yes devs know, we know, it's being fixed

we can move on now

There's nothing else to be done atp that hasn't already been don

It was a problem, the problem was acnowledged, the problem is now being resolved

[latent flower]

ok people were just reaalllyy astounded at the notion of releasing an update with one item or one reworked boss or something like that

which i dont get

[raven brook]

One reworked boss is one thing

one item is another

[latent flower]

sis its been years

[long bloom]

yeah an update that reworks one item would suck ass

there's no point

also they kinda did that anyway with 2.0.5

[latent flower]

the point is wed get to use a new itemm

[raven brook]

I wouldn't because i wouldn't go back to the mod for one item

[latent flower]

i dont know why youre averse to receiving more content

[long bloom]

we will receive more content

in brainstorm

[raven brook]

I have other things to do that aren't calamity and i'm not going out of my way to play calamity because they added a new item :p

[long bloom]

which is very soon

[raven brook]

It's the asme reason why i also don't really care that much that it's been 2 years since the last update

People arne't gonna go back to the mod for One new item

[long bloom]

also yeah nobody's starting a new playthrough because they readded spore knife and nothing else

[raven brook]

Minecraft drops were used as an example earlier

Now i do think the drop system isn't really bad and just needs some work but it's been criticized for how it's just generally not as interesting and dosen't gather up as much hype as actual big updates

And as others have said this would be a even worse version of that

As an analogy

Imagine looking forward to the release of a movie

[latent flower]

the way i see it is that
if you dont play the game for 2 months and come back, you can play with 2 months worth of content either way
but if you play the mod constantly then youre getting new content constantly instead of still just having to wait two months

[raven brook]

You have to wait a bit for that movie

[young socket]

drop system works much better for a game like minecraft because most players usually play a single forever world that can infinitely regenerate

[latent flower]

and ya i agree that generally 1 item is a bit extreme

[raven brook]

But when you get to the movie, you get a fully fleshed out great experience

[young socket]

terraria does not work like that

[raven brook]

Now

[latent flower]

but its hard not to want that

[raven brook]

Alternatively

you can get like

one 1 minute clip of the movie each day

technically

yes, youre getting the movie earlier

but it is a much worse experience and it dosen't feel anywhere near as good as actually having the movie

[latent flower]

im not saying we should get that at all

the thing is that like

[young socket]

worse yet, those clips of the movies are scattered with no rhyme or reason

[latent flower]

sso is a movie

so yes release the sunken sea overhaul as one big movie

[light linden]

what the hell is going on

[latent flower]

but all the other weapon reworks are not movies

[raven brook]

yeah

the weapon reworks weren't meant to be there

as ive said like

three times now

[latent flower]

so they can be released

[raven brook]

yeah it's called brainstorm

[long bloom]

h

[young socket]

they can be released rn if they really wanted to itd just be filled with a fuckton of bugs

[latent flower]

ok i just dont think thats how it would work

[raven brook]

It is actually generally yeah

If you dont playtest content throroughly you get bugs

Sometimes more

[leaden bridge]

Are you guys fucking doing the food stands but with movies

[raven brook]

sometimes less

[long bloom]

i can't wait to show yall an insane visual bug i found

[young socket]

i mean youre the one saying they can be released because theyre technically complete

[latent flower]

ok so ... the weapons arent finished?

if theyre not finished then dont release them

duh

[young socket]

theyre done mechanically

[leaden bridge]

Yall got kinda lost in the sauce with this one im afraid

[raven brook]

As i've said earlier

[plucky lichen]

We still on this

Man it’s been an hour

[raven brook]

Yeah no why is this

even still going

thanks for the reality check

[young socket]

but again

it needs polishing

[plucky lichen]

I came back after playing games

[raven brook]

we've just been going on circles atp

going nowhere

deploy the rats

[long bloom]

🐀 🐀 🐀

[plucky lichen]

Ok guys update will come when it comes, joy to the world

[latent flower]

ok

[dusk laurel]

how were the games

[latent flower]

bye!

[long bloom]

true!

[abstract carbon]

So like ND in wotg?

[raven brook]

I guess yeah

[leaden bridge]

Still laughing at the concept of xeroc and noxus being optional additions

[abstract carbon]

I think if we fight xeroc we should mid fight (probably before final phase) get a cutscene of xeroc asending

[long bloom]

what

[raven brook]

hes already ascended unless you mean likea

[long bloom]

he already did

[raven brook]

a flashback

[abstract carbon]

Yeah

[raven brook]

oh i see

[latent flower]

for the record i had somehow not considered this which was a big fault of mine, not wanting to reargue just wanna clear the air

[leaden bridge]

We guess with fabsol around there was more possible doubt calamity would get there and he wouldn't want to make them but without him it'd be pretty silly

[latent flower]

i think we 99% agree i was just arguing so much cause i wanted something to actually change

also the people that yelled at me are wrong

idc what their argument was

you are WRONG for that

[raven brook]

its ok you can get brainstorm right now

just pay ozzatron 50 dollars

brainstorm for $50

glory to calamitia

[long bloom]

[latent flower]

i will speak no more of the one item update

but its real in my heart

[plucky lichen]

Can we add 17 eels to calamity

[leaden bridge]

No but they can add 49

[dusk laurel]

i remember this

🔥

[leaden bridge]

Well, calamity could get more than elon

[plucky lichen]

18 eels

[latent flower]

17 eels and a prawn

[long bloom]

2.1.1

781 - Added Auric Pogo Stick - done ✅

[plucky lichen]

Add me to calamity

[latent flower]

like. i would rather 2 years with auric pogo stick than 2 years with nothing

at least i ccould hop

[long bloom]

7 month with superradiant slaughterer

[latent flower]

yaayy

[leaden bridge]

You really wouldn't

U say it but it'll feel the same as the 2 years with nothing

[latent flower]

this is gonna start another argument

[plucky lichen]

Add my dog to to calamity please her name is Freya von twinklebrows

[latent flower]

i just will not engage

[leaden bridge]

Every update is the last update before the time with nothing

[raven brook]

its ok ill personally pay the dev team 200 dollars to add an update that adds the new Super Poop tile and nothing else . ur dream will be real

[latent flower]

thank u

again better than nothing

😭

[latent flower]

i see why that is her name

i will add her

[mossy pendant]

Hey sorry to anyone i wake up if i ask this (since its like 12 AM for me rn) but is there an official color pallete for Draedon that i dont know about thats different from the in-game sprite? Ive seen artwork of him with a mixture of grey and yellow and im not sure if thats like a fan-made choice or if its an official redesign that hasnt been released yet.

Asking this cuz im currently working on a drawing and i just need to know which markers i need lol

I dont know if Draedon holding up the middle finger is inappropriate content or not im sorry to the mods if it is : (

[robust osprey]

I think the ingame one and the other one are good to go

draedon does have multiple bodies after alk

[long bloom]

the white, yellow and blue is official afaik, it just hasn't appeared in any official art

also sick art

[robust osprey]

true that's pretty good art

[raven brook]

thug ass draedon

[scenic olive]

draechair

like why does bro needs floating chair its not like he needs to sit

bro just wants to aura farm despite being a robot

[reef wigeon]

I love this

[reef wigeon]

I love this too

Anyway, I've seen that many people have already made their drawings, so... I want to send this Xeroc Design. Completely fan-made, and they're not even finished

I don't know what do you think about it

[shrewd stream]

Hello there, i wanted to ask, is providence sprite accurate of what she looks like or is she getting changed in the future?

[azure tartan]

She’ll probably be changed eventually

[shrewd stream]

I mean thats a given, the sprite is pretty old but my question is that is it like calclone where is nowhere near of what it should look like or is it like desert scourge where they just want to improve what they already have?

[split mortar]

Desert scourge is gaining limbs and stuff idk if thats a good example

P sure its in the air if she will even be resprited due to size

[shrewd stream]

Oh wait really?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[shrewd stream]

Wow

[split mortar]

i dont got all we know of ds newest sprites but its quite different to whats in game rn

[shrewd stream]

Ok tbh idk what boss got or is getting resprite that just improves and modernize what they have, only ones that come to mind are weapon resprites

[eager bluff]

we dont

full sprite is patreon only

[shrewd stream]

If i wasnt so poor...

Wait

If i dont eat today

I might be able to subscribe :0

[azure tartan]

Buy calamity

[shrewd stream]

I offer 2 dolla B)

[azure tartan]

$50

[shrewd stream]

[eager bluff]

$50 is for brainstorm

[mighty zenith]

brainstorm in 2 dollar

[reef wigeon]

Uhm... What do you think, guys? :(

[feral skiff]

yeah i like it!!

definitely a unique interpretation and it resonates with me

[reef wigeon]

Thanks!

I always thought of him as something less human but with humanoid features, and that's why his arms look the way they do

I didn't draw it as polished as I usually do because I wasn't feeling very energetic, but I did it a few weeks ago

[reef wigeon]

Speaking of Xeroc... Will Tier 4 and 5 Bossrush be canon?

[wanton pendant]

Boss Rush is already canon.

[reef wigeon]

What could Xeroc craft with or using the Primordial Light?

[split mortar]

Considering boss rush shows pl able to replicate basically everything others do presumably xeroc can at minimum replicate whatever other materials can

[reef wigeon]

Well, that makes sense given that the Primordial Light is not originally from Terraria, apparently (although it can be manipulated like the other dragon domains)

[bleak trench]

if slimes in terraria have flavor what would goozma taste like

[light linden]

overstimulation and the sun

[azure tartan]

Yum

[wanton pendant]

Nothing (Goozma isn't real, he can't hurt you).

[robust osprey]

what about the suspiciously goozma-shaped slime behind you

[wanton pendant]

That's actually a retextured door.

[robust osprey]

it doesn't move like s door though

[wanton pendant]

Your computer has a memory leak.

[robust osprey]

shit.

[muted narwhal]

oh... the old gods are hunting... oh no...

[raven brook]

Oh dear! What have you done to warrant such a Wrath of the Gods....

[light linden]

hmm

@cosmic zenith hey what type of magic did illmeris specialize in?

[wanton pendant]

Fish.

[real glen]

🐟

[light linden]

I mean

[azure tartan]

🫧 🐠

[light linden]

that is technically a school of magic

if they were able to control animals

[dusk laurel]

🫧 🦈

[azure tartan]

✅ ✅ ✅

[scenic olive]

nah he cant replicate my aura

[cosmic zenith]

Ehh, a civilizational-scale "specialty" is a bit boring and unrealistic to some extent, but if I had to guess, elemental magic (mainly geomancy, hydromancy and fulguromancy)
Easily accessible materials from classic magical schools

More specialized schools of magic rarely achieve such a status

Azafure didn't "specialize" in Necromancy, per say, it simply was one of the few places with an established group of necromancy practicioners

[light linden]

fulguromancy?

[cosmic zenith]

Lightning

[agile matrix]

ilmeris commanded the magicks of the enviroment they remained

[raven brook]

To me it works best if it's treated as how some nations are particularly well known for certain things irl, some countries are the biggest producer of x crop, some countries are the biggest manufcatruer of y thing

Less so that every random john knows that magic and is super good at it and more so that that place has alot of dedicated research done to it compared ot other nations, per example, like they've developed the most spells of y type

[cosmic zenith]

That'd be more realistic

[light linden]

I was thinking of something closer to the latter

where the environment would encourage magic of a certain type to be used or for practitioners of said magic to be there

[simple tangle]

Was Amidias a king (monarch) in any meaningful term of the word? I remember seeing it mentioned that he was democratically elected and that makes me wonder if he's basically a president with the aesthetics of royalty

[dusk laurel]

wasnt ilmeris a constitutional monarchy

[wanton pendant]

I don't recall anything about being elected, but it should be noted that elective monarchies were a thing.

[light linden]

be it due to ease of use or environmental resources

[wanton pendant]

Well, technically they do still exist, since TECHNICALLY Vatican City is a theocratic elective monarchy.

[leaden bridge]

Now that amidias has been brought up isn't it pretty funny he has to say he's not accustomed to having more than 3 people around because of happiness

[pulsar ocean]

Who taught permafrost magic

[edgy frigate]

Magic Johnson

[keen hearth]

Is Anahita also a boss who attacks us canonically? (Boss item spawn explanation)

And if so is it out of fear or is it malicious?

[split mortar]

Apart from deerclops there is no decanonised bosses (deerclops is not canon due to being from a dif game and so would be wack to include)

Anahita like all elementals want to spread their domain, so anahita wants to commit a kyoger and drown the planet and you are not water

[wanton pendant]

Anahita is a based on a siren, the '???' is her luring victims.

[keen hearth]

Was mainly asking cuz I was making some moveset concept (that won't ever make into a game but anyway) for a fighting game and I like to include alignments

[wanton pendant]

All the Elementals other than Silva are malevolent.

[split mortar]

Tbf silvas domain is life so the urge to spread wouldnt cause destruction like the others so she has an unfair advantage
-# also are the other elementals even sapient

[wanton pendant]

Unclear.
Anahita is able to use tools, and the current design for Cloud wears armour.

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[wanton pendant]

And the whole siren thing and Leviathan does mean that Anahita is able to use some level of strategy.

I don't know, maybe the more the Elementals split themselves they lose intelligence or something.

[pulsar ocean]

They should make Don’t starve canon

[wanton pendant]

They should make Pikmin canon.

[split mortar]

Make In stars and time canon

[feral skiff]

make Until Then canon

but that would also make the philippines canon so Nevermind It’d Suck

[spring niche]

Guys, where i can read full lore?

[wanton pendant]

There's two documents pinned.

[long bloom]

first pin

[wanton pendant]

And also second.

Third pin is crucial.

[spring niche]

ty guys

[wanton pendant]

Then you come here to inevitably ask questions.
And yes, the Devourer of Gods does indeed eat gods.

[split mortar]

Oh right the qna section exists
And so does the sources… once im done with college hell i should probably get back to source mines itd be a nice shift of pace with what i normally do on google docs

Or well ig wait for brainstorm first then source the mines

[pulsar ocean]

Are addons canon

[wanton pendant]

I will tear you asunder, your remains will stain the stars themselves. You will know no peace, only endless agony.

[split mortar]

Ok ultrakill

[reef wigeon]

You're not the Ultrakill guy in this situation, you know?

[reef wigeon]

I read about the Heartlands... And I just remembered that the name of my friend's and my world is called ENTROPYYYYYYYYYY but in spanish

The Master document has all the essential lore... Right?

[wanton pendant]

It should.

[plucky lichen]

I finally finished drawing slime god

The slimer

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[plucky lichen]

They love watching slime review videos from 2018

NOT canon design i made this the FUCK up

[dusk laurel]

p cool

[plucky lichen]

Evil twink

[dusk laurel]

sludger

[plucky lichen]

Full of goop

[dusk laurel]

pre or post ascension btw

[plucky lichen]

It’s like post ascension

If they didn’t immediately turn into goop

And slowly did

Idk how fast slime god got goopified so

[dusk laurel]

okay so this is the twink right after they ate the fat dragon's soul

[plucky lichen]

Basically

Me when I eat a fatass lizard and slowly turn into goop

Their face is melting that’s why they wear the uhh

Veil

[reef wigeon]

This is incredible...

[zenith geode]

this is sick i like this

[cosmic zenith]

Debatable

I wouldn't say they are malevolent

They are potentially toxic, which is something they share with their elements
Anything in excess is damaging, and so the Elementals are kept neutral by their balance

[eager bluff]

malevolent implies they go out of their way to harm

they are no more malevolent than lets say a wild bear is

even silva falls into that category

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hello

[agile matrix]

is anahita naturally aggressive?

she kinda just chills in the ocean unless you attack her

[plucky lichen]

Stip rate my slime god

[cosmic zenith]

It's peak

[plucky lichen]

The slimer

[cosmic zenith]

Hmmm.... 8.5/10

[plucky lichen]

Okokok

[cosmic zenith]

(Aesthetically it's a 10/10)

[plucky lichen]

I feel like he would be stylish

If he could

Putting a bow on slime god

[wanton pendant]

You attack her lure. She's trying to draw you in.

[plucky lichen]

It might not be the most lore accurate but in my defense

There is

[agile matrix]

source? ill believe it with evidence

[eager bluff]

this is wild animal behavior not active malevolence

[plucky lichen]

One doodle that stip did of him balling

And that’s what we went with

[agile matrix]

is it considered like That for anglerfish

[cosmic zenith]

That drawing is a 5/10

[light linden]

[wanton pendant]

The Odyssey.

[plucky lichen]

No it’s peak

He’s got a basketball

10/10

[thick slate]

baler

[zenith geode]

is shimmer canon

[raven brook]

yeah

[long bloom]

there is lore but we have literally no idea what it is

[robust osprey]

the shimner lore is clearly trans liquid

created by yharim of course

[wanton pendant]

Ah, because it makes stuff transform.
Not to be confused with Gender Change Potion, which is a trans liquid (makes you transgender, invented by bathroom companies).

[robust osprey]

nono shimmer is the transgender liquid

the potion is just the drinkable and sellable form

I can confirm, I fell there once, now look at me

[lunar walrus]

Awesomesauce.

[rose star]

Makes sense

[reef wigeon]

Good morning guys, because it's 7:08 AM here

[raven brook]

i fell on the shimmer too

it didn't change my gender though what it did was turn me into a giant sea cucumber

help

[reef wigeon]

I fell on the shimmer too

...

I am Noxus now

Help

[robust osprey]

help? that's fucking awesome dude

you don't need help

[pine badge]

I wonder who else turned into a pickle...

[reef wigeon]

Well, I thought about a situation like this yesterday...

[reef wigeon]

I also drew this one (more legible?)

[cloud ibex]

top ten scariest marine animals

number 7: the sea cucumber

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/pyukumuku-pokemon-water-type-pyukumuku-pokemon-gif-21639420

[glacial rampart]

both should be made real in terraria 1.4.6

[spring helm]

Another day another soul who’s fallen for the yharpaganda

https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/s/RDuEGLwVqL

[leaden bridge]

reddit lore posts are fascinating because they do not know shit as a consequence of not being here, meaning you can see the imprint going entirely off ingame material leaves on someone

[split mortar]

The lore doc is available on reddit

[wanton pendant]

I know this is a scheme to make me create a Reddit account, it won't work!

[leaden bridge]

no reddit poster is going to go out of their way to read a doc they have to go out and find before saying their crap

[wanton pendant]

It's pinned.

[leaden bridge]

in here you're basically forced to learn about everything because people will bring it up immediatly

[leaden bridge]

thats still out of the way for a redditor

[young socket]

yea the inprint of yharim saying "i killed people and feel no remorse"

not the games fault for people not being able to read

[leaden bridge]

well we never were talking about any games fault for anything

[crude light]

today i asked yharim if he is evil and he said slaps my big belly yuppp

how do we feel about this

[split mortar]

skeletron primes lore item is literally having the murder orphans with fire division be turned into the murder orphans with fire robot

[pulsar ocean]

skeletron phrime

[reef wigeon]

"Xeroc has ordered the dragon genoc-" NO, JUST NO!!!

[wanton pendant]

What, you don't remember the part where Xeroc twirls their mustache and ties dragons to train tracks?

[reef wigeon]

What

My Xeroc only... Makes posts in X||(eroc)||

[wanton pendant]

This is what Xeroc was doing to the dragons (real).

[reef wigeon]

I don't know what part of the lore the Reddit user read to come to the conclusion that Xeroc ordered the genocide

[wanton pendant]

Read?

[reef wigeon]

I mean... The only part where that's mentioned literally says that HUMANS wanted to appropriate an Auric soul, they weren't ordered to

[reef wigeon]

That's right, he's an Undertale fan.

Anyways... Is Shakidou the god of space, or of emptiness? I'm confused about that

[wanton pendant]

Emptiness.

[zenith geode]

yeah emptiness

[reef wigeon]

I see

[wanton pendant]

(Space, Time and Gravity are the kind of powers that break scaling, you know.)

(Mainly because they're all the same thing.)

[reef wigeon]

Rather, scaling exists because of them

[reef wigeon]

Well, that's a simple way of saying it lol

Wait a minute, if the sun is made of Primordial Light, and orbits around the planet, THAT MEANS THAT PL HAS MASS!?!?

[cloud ibex]

i guess

[wanton pendant]

I mean, Xeroc's able to hit you with it.

[reef wigeon]

But then it wouldn't be able to go at light speed...

Okay, that explains a lot, i think

For example, the fact that bosses don't move at lightspeed

[split mortar]

PL is quite magical so maybe it can change its mass?

[reef wigeon]

Technically possible

It sounds a lot like particle technology or smt

[split mortar]

Only 1 boss even uses PL
Also pl is tied to teleportation which could actually just be turning into pl and moving at light speed to that spot then re materialising

[reef wigeon]

I was talking about the bosses in the bossrush

[split mortar]

Then this ig

[reef wigeon]

Again, technically possible even in real life (?

[pulsar ocean]

Is the true copper shortsword canon to calamity mod

[azure tartan]

Sure

[scenic olive]

is john wulfrum real in calamity mod

[leaden bridge]

yes

[woeful karma]

dont make me tap the "fictional things made of hard light do not necessarily move at light speed and the assumption that they should has only ever harmed reasonable discussion" sign

[visual kiln]

if light is confined then it doesnt move at light speed

it also has mass

[plucky juniper]

🔥 ✍️

"their expertise lay in unmaking faith with flame"

this is honestly such an awesome lore item

[split mortar]

targets you with the murder orphans with fire division

[plucky juniper]

wait they're orphans?

[reef wigeon]

You don't need to

[leaden bridge]

skeletron moves ftl when it teleports

[crude light]

is xeroc evil

[reef wigeon]

Definitely not

[spring helm]

no he is, yharim told me so

[reef wigeon]

Xeroc is a chill guy

Whether or not he absorbed Zeratros's soul (although he did), It wasn't with bad intentions

[leaden bridge]

Xeroc isn't evil but we hope he has a really god damn busy schedule to excuse them not doing Jack shit those past two hundred years

[split mortar]

2 hundred? Thought yharim was just hundred years

[leaden bridge]

Well the dragon killings too

[split mortar]

That was like past thousand years

[leaden bridge]

that doesn't make it better for the guy

[split mortar]

Werent saying that it did

[icy veldt]

That part doesn't need to be excused

[limpid granite]

draedons canon iq?

[light linden]

not easy to measure

first reason is because he doesn't think like humans do

second reason is because draedon isn't a single person

[limpid granite]

huh

interesting

another question of mine is does the abyss go farther?

if so, what could lurk down there?

[zenith geode]

there's probably small cracks with tiny isopods that are deeper than what we see but the terminus is buried at the bottom of the trench

[limpid granite]

i had an idea for the bottom being just a gaping mouth to another creature that is the controller of your world or some shit

and it feeds on creatures who go down far enough, so in a way the abyss is the reason your world still exists

and we cant see the hole due to it being blocked off since the creature doesnt want us to die for real

and end the entire adventure

without you theres no abyss and without the abyss theres no terraria

the worm is just a precaution :3

thats why it goes harder the further it goes, it wants to keep you out

[agile matrix]

i mean lower than the abyss is Azafure

[swift badger]

Is there actually anything deeper than azufure

[young socket]

we dont know of anything below the underworld

[leaden bridge]

So xeroc was fine with dragon genocide? That does make him pretty shitty

[real glen]

No neko
Currently, we dont know anything about why Xeroc did stolen the zeratros soul and why he went hiding after that (private stuff gjj)

[leaden bridge]

oh it's not public

?

we mean we think it was pretty obvious

there's not really like many narratively satisfying answers u know

We mean it's not like there's that many options either he has a reason or he's an asshole who wanted power and then proceeded to do nothing with it

The point still stands actually if he didn't want to do anything about it hes still a bad guy

[jaunty wraith]

So does 1.4.5 add anything that could be new lore in calamity?

[kindred crystal]

vinalla and calamity lore are seperate

[jaunty wraith]

I mean like is there any new features that could be adapted into calamity lore

Like the aether last update

[kindred crystal]

i mean not really atleast from what ive played of it so far

[jaunty wraith]

This does mean that the possession is basically using a body part of the creature that killed the dragons

[eager bluff]

moon lord skulls in the ocean

[scenic olive]

turns into a mouse sunskeeter

[jaunty wraith]

Imagine using the possession whip agaisnt yharon

[pulsar ocean]

True copper shortsword

[jaunty wraith]

That wouldnt be canon cause the zenith isnt canon

[pulsar ocean]

Who said that

Why would zenith not be canon

[jaunty wraith]

The zenith uses the horsemans blade, a drop from the non canon pumpkin moon event

[raven brook]

I don't think thats how it works cuz by that logic Alot of items are noncanon

u can just ignore the recipe

[dusk laurel]

most items arent explicitly canon but theres no reason they couldnt exist

[raven brook]

yeah

weapons dont tend to be particularly lore relevant anyways save for things that directly tie into the worldbuilding

like the wulfrum of sunken sea weps

[dusk laurel]

after all you craft the items so you () get to decide if you make then or not

[swift ferry]

Is providence a lesbian or did twitter lie to me

Mega based if true

[long bloom]

unconfirmed but very possible

[thick slate]

with me yea

[steady flower]

Lesbian goddess, oh hell yes.

[icy veldt]

You know who wasn't fine with dragon genocide? Yharim. Checkmate biaatsch!

[reef wigeon]

Lol?

[distant smelt]

-Hears about genocide
-Gets angry about it
-Does a counter genocide

[west wedge]

uh huh

[pulsar ocean]

Spring onion

[reef wigeon]

Xeroc:
-hears about genocide
-does nothing about it
-makes the Bossrush

[mighty zenith]

i think one may be just a bit worse

[wanton pendant]

Exactly, Boss Rush is unforgivable.

[feral skiff]

why would xeroc test us? didn’t he already see everything?

[light linden]

he's likely testing us for something we haven't fought

[split mortar]

What else can the test be for for if not to see if we are good enough to fight noxus

[reef wigeon]

Well, yeah
-i don't know, help

[reef wigeon]

No, it's so we can destroy these mountains that are pissing him off

[feral skiff]

where would ALL calamity characters fit on this

[wanton pendant]

"...Perhaps this is an opportunity. Claiming this relic is no small feat, and I have caught brief glimpses of your journey."
Xeroc was too busy watching YouTube to pay attention to us. Jerk.

[wanton pendant]

These are vaguely defined.

[feral skiff]

actually your very right

everything past cosmic tier is literally hypothetical nonsense

[wanton pendant]

Past 'Average Human' is vague and undefined.

[split mortar]

There hasnt been anyone who did recent calculations of whatever cal feats there were so all we can use is old as shit stuff from omni which im sure he would rather i not cite for many reasons

And dev statements are not that reliable at staying the same

Atleast for the whole “city level” or “mountain level” stuff
The actual which character beats who is much more concrete

[wanton pendant]

Like, what does 'Street Level' mean?
Is it the ability to destroy a street in a certain amount of time?
How big is such a street, as they can vary in size.

Or does it mean that they're a threat to an entire street worth of people?

[split mortar]

iirc its generally destroying that in one hit? Or the energy to do so

Or something along those lines

[wanton pendant]

Behold, a Street Level.

[split mortar]

That does not oneshot a street

[wanton pendant]

Just get a really big one.

[strong notch]

But it can oneshot a Xerock

[split mortar]

If i get a universe sized one then its universe level and kills you specifically

[split mortar]

No the rock is invincible due to time fuckery

[wanton pendant]

Furthermore, with wall, what kind of wall.
A brick wall that comes up to your waist? The Theodosian Walls? The Great Wall of China?

[strong notch]

Not if that thing has mold breaker ability

[reef wigeon]

The general condition is "have enough mass or energy to destroy something", Which... doesn't really work. I mean, WHAT SIZE IS THAT STREET?

[wanton pendant]

More so asphalt breaker.

[split mortar]

Anyways just to answer this question to some capacity
The very questionable statements from devs put yharim between city to mountain level per hit iirc

[wanton pendant]

Then there's Island Level.
Are we talking Jan Mayen or Greenland?

[spare pier]

40 Yharims

[split mortar]

Oh hey vriska

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[spare pier]

I will never let Cei live that one down

[wanton pendant]

Like, the first two tiers are at least somewhat defined with Below Average and Average.
That's something you can actually figure out.

[dusk laurel]

xeroc versus one billion lions (lions win)

[light linden]

xeroc is the strongest being and he's city level I think

[split mortar]

Perfectly organised 40 yharims working together mind you
Not just 40 yharims

[reef wigeon]

Noxus is universal because he is the lord of an entire dimension, and since Xeroc is more powerful than Noxus, he's high universal

-# note: clearly this is a joke, that's not how it works

[dusk laurel]

im not a power scaler but uh

that doesnt add up

[light linden]

tbf it'd explain how he killed some gods

[split mortar]

Xeroc statements are even more wack unreliable then ilmeris size statements im pretty sure

[reef wigeon]

He's... Mountain level i think?

[dusk laurel]

xeroc is power level 4800

[light linden]

hard to run from the guy that just punched you through a mountain

[spare pier]

A num8er Cei pulled out of her ass and means nothing

[mighty zenith]

five. hundred. yharims

[split mortar]

Werent there one statement saying xeroc could explode a big mountain or two with one attack

[spare pier]

Xeroc is Strong and that's all you're getting

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message #lore-discussion message
ok nvm it was xeroc might be able to do dozens?

[light linden]

vriska can I ask a thing?

[split mortar]

Yeah this what matters

[spare pier]

Yeah sure

[reef wigeon]

And Yharim is uhhhh power level 90 (?

[light linden]

what do you think is the worst class to play as?

[dusk laurel]

im referencing an evil cei image

[spare pier]

Idfk

[reef wigeon]

Lol?

[dusk laurel]

2023 🔥

[mighty zenith]

well she did say its some numbers

[wanton pendant]

So, like, Xeroc's about a third of a Goku.

How many Goku makes a Buddha?

[strong notch]

And what is the power level of endgame Terrarian for comparison?

[dusk laurel]

idk

up to you

[mighty zenith]

3

[wanton pendant]

By that metric, around ~350.

[dusk laurel]

[reef wigeon]

x

Yeah

I just

put algebra into a conversation based on DBZ scales

[strong notch]

e^x

because euler is great

[reef wigeon]

By the way, my terrarian is... a Sylveon.
Yeah.
A Fucking Sylveon

[split mortar]

My terrarian turns into the horrors

[strong notch]

Good idea. I will turn mine into Typhlosion/Latias on my next playthrough

[reef wigeon]

My Sylveon was... an assistant to some random god who he helped kill the dragon whose soul he absorbed

Because you know

Fairy type > Dragon type

[jaunty wraith]

I always love this.

This means that since yharim is not in the game yet, the most common progression of the terrarian character is making all the way up about to fight yharim... then just stop

[reef wigeon]

[strong notch]

We just decide to retire

[wanton pendant]

Couldn't find the Dragon Aerie entrance.

(Yharon removed the Welcome Mat before her left.)

[raven brook]

hi lore chat

[split mortar]

Hey

[raven brook]

what are we talking about its me cheese calamity

[wanton pendant]

Hello, we are fighting streets.

[split mortar]

I have a headache
I terrarianed earlier

[raven brook]

my terrarian in vanilla is my calamity oc which is ironi lmao

[reef wigeon]

I always had a question... Does the decision to kill or not kill Yharim ONLY APPLY to Yharim? I mean, you can't decide to not kill... The hive mind, or smt???

[raven brook]

she's a journey moder specifically

[raven brook]

There's no decision

He'll be killed

Sparing him won't be a option

[split mortar]

Yharim would just continue fighting you

Or betray kill you

[raven brook]

Discussions about sparing or not a character have been brought up in the past as possible additions but nothing confirmed

[jaunty wraith]

At that point its a fight to the death

Only one is coming out alive

[raven brook]

calcone, astrum deus, aquatic scourge and cnidrion being some examples

yeah like you really can't spare yharim he'll keep fighting you until he dies

he's not gonna move into your town as a NPC because that'd require him to go through a redemption arc in even the slighest capacity

which he's Not Gonna Do

Good luck changing his mind after his mind has been the same for over 100 years

[wanton pendant]

You can't exactly spare someone who has abandoned mercy.

[jaunty wraith]

This aint steven universe, I double calamitas is gonna just be all good with redeemed yharim

[reef wigeon]

Okay, then I'll dodge Yharim's attacks until he dies of old age so he won't have the satisfaction of dying with honor

[raven brook]

terrarian, we have to kill that guy.

[wanton pendant]

Shouldn't take a decade.

[raven brook]

funny as fuck actually someone make a fanfiction out of that

[jaunty wraith]

How close is he of dying of old age? I know his lifespan was extended greatly but I've seen nothing about him not aging at all

[raven brook]

Pretty close

like a decade or so at most left

[wanton pendant]

He's got less than ten years.

[reef wigeon]

He's old

[split mortar]

The Mark E fic :cluemeow:

[jaunty wraith]

IM OLD

[wanton pendant]

'How Sans Undertale Saved Calamitas' Christmas. (Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series.)'

[jaunty wraith]

And knuckles

[reef wigeon]

YEAH EXACTLY!

[split mortar]

How many terrarians do people have

[jaunty wraith]

Imagine sparing calclone unlocks a questline where you try to help her keep what little sanity she has, maybe to the point she can live with other NPCs

[wanton pendant]

We get a lot of them in the winter months. I think the cold drives them in.

[reef wigeon]

The amount that person wants, i suppose

[wanton pendant]

Just hand her to Permafrost.
'Here, have another kid.'
'What the actual hell.'
'You're welcome.'

[jaunty wraith]

Oh you know what would be sick

[raven brook]

the pirates. ...

[split mortar]

I have
One?
Two?
-# dont think one counts as a terrarian

[jaunty wraith]

If calamitas herself had some questlines

[reef wigeon]

It would be funny (to me) if after defeating Xeroc once, he changed form to his pre-ascension form and became an NPC you could fight again (yeah, like Calamitas)

[wanton pendant]

'Hello Terrarian, I have quest for you. Please get me cooked fish. Please.'

[raven brook]

im pretty sure he can literally just shapeshift anyways theres a nonzero chance his fight will have phase 1 be his human form or something

like hes the light guy he can just make himself look however he wants im pretty sure

[jaunty wraith]

Its been established your never gonna kill xeroc anyway, so hell probably just remain in the location you fight him ready for a rematch

[split mortar]

You call the sun a bitch and he gives your kidneys cancer

[reef wigeon]

His first line of dialogue would be, "Hey, I've been alone for many years. I decided to join your village against your will, and I won't pay taxes for it!"

[reef wigeon]

Yeah ik

[jaunty wraith]

You know an NPC that could use questlines... or literally anything

The bandit

[mighty zenith]

john light

[jaunty wraith]

Heres what we know about them:

"They/Them"

That is what we know about the bandit

[raven brook]

i mean to be fair they're the bandit they're not meant to be that important

they're not an actual lore relevant character they're the guy who sells you rogue equipment

[cloud ibex]

xeroc should occasionally show up at your town post-battle offering you a fat schpuff of that zaza of primordial light

[raven brook]

gtheyre like the merchant or the nurse or demolitionist or any other vanilla npc

theyre not like big story relevant characters theyre kinda just normal guys

[jaunty wraith]

Can a mod ban another mod?

[wanton pendant]

I see my rigorous research is paying off.

[cloud ibex]

you have blinded yourself to the truth

[raven brook]

No, however

[cloud ibex]

xeroc has chill stoner energy

[raven brook]

Why would i do that, even if i could?

He's literally speaking the truth

[cloud ibex]

one day my prophecy will be vindicated

[wanton pendant]

To prove your power.

[raven brook]

Xeroc is dream blunt rotation

[mighty zenith]

calamity wont be complete until the xeroc blunt pass

[jaunty wraith]

All the mods will battle, only one will remain!

[mighty zenith]

thats how the game ends

[cloud ibex]

i'd win

[mighty zenith]

xeroc quieres

[cloud ibex]

[raven brook]

xeroc blunt update

final update for calamity ever

nothing more afterwards

not even hotfixes

[split mortar]

Is there a xeroc weed image like some other characters

[raven brook]

xeroc should drop a vanity cursor item like the empress and it gives you a primordial light themed cursor. its a primordial light blunt

[mighty zenith]

xeroc quieres

[reef wigeon]

Spanish, i see

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc should give you a gun.

[split mortar]

Siffrin in calamity when

[wanton pendant]

Espanhol, eu vejo.

[cloud ibex]

we're boiling melon

[mighty zenith]

¿quieres?

[wanton pendant]

I don't think that'd taste good.

[reef wigeon]

I should draw one with my post-ascension Xeroc design

[split mortar]

Why…

[reef wigeon]

No i don't

[split mortar]

🔥

[cloud ibex]

hmm.

funny

:D

[split mortar]

[reef wigeon]

This is an Calamity OC made by me.
His name is Cor Ex Aureus.
He's Xeroc's adopted son.

What do you guys think about his design?

[mighty zenith]

Cor Ex what...

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

Cor Ex Aureus

But

Turn Cor Ex upside down, make the X capital (removing the other capital letters) and join both parts of the name

Xeroc

[feral skiff]

i think calamitas would win against them

in fact, i think even an ant would win

[reef wigeon]

I don't know what you mean... It's a joke because of his size, isn't it?

(He's male, yeah)

He's the same age as Xeroc since his ascension, but since Aureus was a child before Xeroc ascension, Xeroc is older than him chronologically

So yeah, he's a very old child

[thick slate]

ill slime him

[reef wigeon]

Drawing a funny scene between Xeroc and Aureus

[dapper mortar]

ok calmitas-GPT, generate me a lore synopsis of the CALAMITY 2.0.7.2 lore. Increase my olfactory senses to 2000%, disengage all safety protocols, and run program.

[split mortar]

golden shiny 5 star hitler commits world wide genocide and grooms a child into nuking italy

[agile matrix]

we're gonna BOMB you. we're gonna BOMB this guy. we're KILLING this OTHER guy. AND i'm the winner

[wanton pendant]

World War II but Wojtek becomes King of Poland, Germany is a secular theocracy, Winston Churchill is magic, Switzerland gets invaded and they gave everyone a free gun.

[icy veldt]

Erm aktzschually Switzerland gets nuked, not conventionally invaded 🤓

[wanton pendant]

That happens later when Oppenheimer (who is a magical girl) gets recruited by the Germans.

[split mortar]

For an accurate lore here #lore-discussion message

[wanton pendant]

He then says 'I am become Calamity, destroyer of Mod.'