lore-discussion

[night barn]

no

not canon to basecal

[long bloom]

only vanilla calamity mod music (which only really has song titles for lore)

[scenic olive]

nah im beating yharim with draedon itchin powder, he gon take it off and im gonna hide it away

[pulsar ocean]

is the xerock tuffer than bedrock

[long bloom]

yes

there are multiple ways to break bedrock

[scenic olive]

the humble terrarian trash inventory

deletes everything

[reef wigeon]

An easter egg could be that... You appear in the DoG pocket dimension when you re-enter

[scenic olive]

ngl old art of Yharim does show his Sword having rocky texture

i'd just figure it might come from aerie

[reef wigeon]

Okay... What do you mean? :3

[split mortar]

Old yharims sword was literally like
An early hardmode weapon you could craft iirc

[hushed jasper]

I thought it was the final upgrade to the tainted blade at some point

Used to be I think?

[split mortar]

I think? That line used to just be called differing more extreme versions of ok this is yharims ACTUAL TRUE FUCKING SWORD as progression went on ending with the post providence yharims true ultisword i think?

[hushed jasper]

I think so

Seems familiar

Now it’s the defiled greatsword

[split mortar]

Yea

[hushed jasper]

Yeah it was

Yharims sword got demoted lol

[raven brook]

me when i get the fianl boss's weapon as a random craft in early hardmode

(it quickly gets out classes by even Chlorophyte Saber

[fierce pagoda]

Fovos and Moonlord aren't the same person

in my misinformation era

[cloud ibex]

in my blowing you up era

[limpid olive]

what

[limpid olive]

ah

[long bloom]

kai ninjago

[languid badge]

Erm (yharims ultisword was post plant so it couldn’t be quickly outclassed by saber)

[eager bluff]

no it was quickly outclassed by saber because iirc saber was just better than it

[long bloom]

[languid badge]

I mean depends on point in time

Ultisword was broken for quite awhile iirc

[stray crystal]

so what is the Lore (TM) of calamity?

[raven brook]

it's Alot ™

There's docs in pins giving alotta stuff but

[split mortar]

World soul shatters and some dragons become auric dragons due to that
Space squid comes out of nowhere and rocks their shit in and gets sealed in the moon
People start killing the auric dragons and using their secisl souls to ascend to godhood
Centuries later yellow pissbaby yharim gets angry and genocides all gods ignoring nuance

I missed 748374 details

[raven brook]

To massively simplify it

[eager bluff]

for an overly summarized version
moon lord showed up and wrecked dragons shit, xeroc ate one of their souls and became a god, chaos ensues, yharim born a bit under a thousand years later, doesnt become a god and is thrown in lava alongside yharon, gets better, tries to kill all gods, further chaos ensues, yharim gets a child to nuke italy, everybody leaves yharim except for yharon, depression arc, player shows up

[raven brook]

Guy in yellow armor ruins everything by killing thousands in a self-righteous and delusional quest for revenge

thousands? millions? idk one of them im not math

[split mortar]

Hundreds of millions

Oh yeah moons evil

[stray crystal]

and itally in this equasion is ocean italy right

[eager bluff]

yes

[split mortar]

Ilmeris

Sunken sea

[eager bluff]

thats a rough summary of the overarching plot prior to the game

[simple tangle]

tomorrow is another day

[stray crystal]

which is not the iraddiated wasteland, right?

[eager bluff]

correct

[raven brook]

Nah, its the sunken sea

biome under the desert

[eager bluff]

it is sunken sea under desert

[stray crystal]

just making sure i know clamatas fucked up two oceans.

[eager bluff]

nope

she only fucked one

[split mortar]

Thats the sulphuric sea

[stray crystal]

who fucked up the other ocean?

[split mortar]

Calamitas didnt fuck up sulphuric sea that was draedon

[raven brook]

Fumes from azafure made it sulphuric, azafure being the city in the underworld that is now the brimstone crags

[eager bluff]

the other one was a combination of natural fuckening and draedon deciding since its already fuckened i might as well dump nuclear waste there

[stray crystal]

ah i see.

[raven brook]

Draedon later dumped nuclear waste on it

Worth nothing that the sulphuric poisoning from the azafure industrial fumes and the nuclear waste from draedon are separate

[split mortar]

Is calamitas a undertale player

[stray crystal]

man if i had a nickel for every time an important player in the clamity lore fucked up an ocean. id have two nickels.

[raven brook]

the life in the sea had basically fully adapted to the sulphuric fumes due to the fact it's been that way for probably hundres of years and silva (goddess of life's) essence, which is present in the sea, makes things wayyy more adapatable and speeds up evolution

[pulsar ocean]

how were the fumes going through the fucking abyss rock all the way to the top of the ocean

[stray crystal]

neato

[eager bluff]

osmosis jones

[raven brook]

but the nuclear waste draedon dumped on it ACTUALLY fucked it up since htats way more recent and harder to adapt to

[stray crystal]

you know isnt the sunken sea more of a saltwater lake.

[raven brook]

technically yeah

[split mortar]

Brackish not saltwater

[stray crystal]

its inland.

[raven brook]

its more of a uhhh

whattya call it

big underground body of water

[eager bluff]

reservoir

[raven brook]

estuary? is that waht it is

[split mortar]

Reservoir?

Brackish estuary or reservoir

[stray crystal]

no like before it got fucked wouldnt it be more like a big saltwater lake.

[pulsar ocean]

are the fish from the sulphuric sea tasty

[raven brook]

it was still underground back then

[split mortar]

It never pierced the surface

[stray crystal]

oh.

[raven brook]

it just went further up

[split mortar]

It covered like 80% of the underground desert but not the whole 100%

[stray crystal]

reminds me i still need to kill the big clam

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Wat

[robust osprey]

bwaaaa

[dusk laurel]

[modest elk]

wait so the astral infection is completely useless against us?

[young socket]

it can still kill you

[split mortar]

It hurts us but yeah its not anywhere as dangerous to sapient life as it is to robots and dumb animals

[modest elk]

yeah but it cant infect you?

[split mortar]

Since it cant mind control us

[modest elk]

dumb animals… like slimes?

[split mortar]

Anything that isnt sapient

[long bloom]

it can't infect beings with human level intelligence

[modest elk]

cool to know the removed boss still theoretically isnt contradicted

[young socket]

astral slimes still exist...

[modest elk]

wait really? or are they just the ore slimes now

[long bloom]

both

[young socket]

well they exist prior to dropping astral ore but basically yea

[cloud ibex]

pretty sure geldon was just Big Slime But Astral so yes i don't think anything currently really contradicts its existence (other than... well, it not existing)

[leaden bridge]

while it is not ingame, there is something currently contradicting its existence and its that the devs want the mod to be good and astrageldon is not good

[thorn drift]

just make it good

lol

lmao even

[split mortar]

Catalyst

[thorn drift]

yes but the problem is that catalyst doesnt play that well

now begone, i'm banishing you to the time loops

[limpid saddle]

what makes you think that?

[raven brook]

waiter waiter more slime bosses

[limpid saddle]

though i can agree Catalyst does have a few flaws

[thorn drift]

I just dont like how the bossfight plays, it has some bullshit in it thats not really explained?

Like how astralgeldon interacts with its own arena

[limpid saddle]

yeah phase 2 is very disorienting

[thorn drift]

or how it can sometimes move inside of you and tag you with an unavoidable projectile during the star grid attack

or how the stars linger for way too long during the homing star volley attack

stuff like that

[raven brook]

Aureus just kinda does everything Astralgel did but better and Aureus isn't even like. a good boss

So the bar is like, pretty damn low

[thorn drift]

its just compounding for me tbh

[raven brook]

It's atleast conceptually more interesting for one id say

But again, the bar is low

[thorn drift]

astralgeldon has just so many minor bullshitteries that its not really enjoyable for me

[raven brook]

This is not very loreous though i think

[thorn drift]

no its pivotal to the lore actually

[raven brook]

Eh not like anything else is happening here anyawys

[limpid saddle]

the slime or the crab robot

[thorn drift]

yes

in other news what the FUCK does draedon do to produce nuclear waste

cuz we sure as fuck never found any uranium

[raven brook]

Dosen't mean it dosen't exist

There's also other radioactive components even irl that aren't uranium

[craggy sparrow]

Is the glowing mushroom biome a concern

[thorn drift]

aware

its just the posterchild

[raven brook]

Making the exo mechs probably produced some nuclear waste im ngl look at those things

[thorn drift]

Im personally more of a promethium guy myself but i digress

[young socket]

draedon canonically uses plutonium

[raven brook]

also the plague definitely has some radioactive bullshit going on

[craggy sparrow]

we can see it assimilate and mutate a simple crab into crabulon

[soft flame]

good question

[raven brook]

Not really a simple crab

It was a hermititan from the sunken sea whichs alreadyl ike huge crab

It then died

on the glowing mushroom biome

[soft flame]

i would assume excess materials from his machines

[limpid saddle]

ate too many nuclear rods got indigestion

[raven brook]

because it was trying to escape the incineration

[thorn drift]

i mean. He has literally infinite energy

[soft flame]

like how exos make mm

[thorn drift]

what hes gonna need nuclear materials for

[raven brook]

and after it was alreadye dead the mushrooms took over its corpse and used it as a car

[raven brook]

idk nuclear bombs

[craggy sparrow]

Oh so its like the skeleton variant then where it can just assimilate a dead host

[limpid saddle]

to dump in the ocean & see what happens

[raven brook]

he has to bomb small developing countries its of vital importance to his research

[raven brook]

yeah

[thorn drift]

Draedon is actually a terrorist

okay

good night folks

[soft flame]

[raven brook]

i mean honestly he probably would be if he really needed to

[soft flame]

fits him perfectly

[raven brook]

not that i think anything warrants it yet

but like, if he REALLY needed to

[thorn drift]

Honestly

almost everyone in calamity would be a terrorist when given the chance

[raven brook]

Well i dunno about that

[young socket]

probably? he already was with the whole yharim thing

[limpid saddle]

I don't think Permafrost would be a terrorist

or Calamitas

[raven brook]

I think alot of characters wouldnt be terrorsits

[limpid saddle]

or Amidias

Or Bandit

[young socket]

the bandit would totally be a terrorist

[raven brook]

or Calamitas*

-# After undergoing character development prior ot that well you know

[soft flame]

or diamond gemcrawler

[raven brook]

I can name alot of characters that wouldn't be terrorsits

[limpid saddle]

or emerald gemcrawler

[soft flame]

present day calamitas maybe

[thorn drift]

Objectively incorrect, I saw diamond gemcrawler bomb small children in the outer rim

[craggy sparrow]

Every fucking character in the mod is a terrorist in some way

[raven brook]

Permafrost, Amidias, Braelor, Statis, Calamitas*, Agnus, Silva, Otonilou, Tyrian, Vetrasyl, Xeroc Probably

[craggy sparrow]

even us

[soft flame]

fabricated, amber gemcrawler was behind that

[limpid saddle]

Ok how is Amidias a terrorist

[thorn drift]

Well we are schrödingers morality, we are simultaniously a terrorist and not a terrorist

[limpid saddle]

Is it an act of terror to get eaten by a clam

[thorn drift]

yes

[raven brook]

It's an act of terror to have your city destroyed

U guys arent following the definition of terrorist i think

[thorn drift]

you are causing the clam unjust distress

[soft flame]

he impersonated as a peral obviously

[limpid saddle]

you acting like he ordered it 💔

[dusk laurel]

amidias didnt do anything HE was the one who got terrorized (ingame and irl)

[limpid saddle]

exactly

[raven brook]

amidias is the cahracter who suffered the most in this damn mod

because even irl he gets tormented

[limpid saddle]

& then the fandom did this to him

[soft flame]

"please"

[limpid saddle]

this shits probably a warcrime

[raven brook]

i think its worse somehow

[dusk laurel]

this isnt even the worst

have you

SEEN

[soft flame]

✅

[dusk laurel]

what else was done to him

cheese show it

[soft flame]

the brain came along and they left him to rot

[raven brook]

if anyone in this mod is a terrorist besides like Yharim and Draedon and Yharon etc all the average john badguys its definitely the war god

[limpid saddle]

not even mentioning this

[raven brook]

the war god would have terrorism as a like sunday evening hobby

[limpid saddle]

cheese post leviathan amidias

[thorn drift]

honestly

[raven brook]

WHJY IS EVERYONE ASKING ME SPECIFICALLY

[thorn drift]

ravager is totally a terrorist

[raven brook]

Ravager isn't a terrorist he's more of a rampaging chimpanzee

with rabbies

[thorn drift]

okay but if he had any sanity left hed be a terrorist

[raven brook]

Nah he'd be a great guy actually because he was

[thorn drift]

I know

[soft flame]

cal clone would stand as a good terrorist maybe

[limpid saddle]

Yeah it's not exactly terrorism for a gorilla on fent to kill a battalion of soldiers

[craggy sparrow]

Can someone be really classified as a terrorist in the continent that's pretty much defined as "Evil ass continent"

[raven brook]

Yeah alot of people

because not everyone in the mod's cast is evil in fact a majority of the cast is actually composedo f good people

[dusk laurel]

cheese is actually a terrorist did you know she boiled an entire underground sea before yeah i know right thats fucked up

[thorn drift]

Holy shit providence is literally the dictionary definition of a terrorist

[limpid saddle]

I wonder how Agnus would ponder his new form & the sacrifice his followers made to revive him

[raven brook]

yeah she is

shes

[craggy sparrow]

We literally recruit a bomb loving maniac

[raven brook]

she actually jsut is yeah

[craggy sparrow]

to our town

[raven brook]

killing civilians, often in pursuit of political power and influence

tahts providence

[raven brook]

He'd likely hate it i feel like it goes against everything he ever stood far and he'd be immesnely saddened by what he has become

He'd rather have remained dead

[limpid saddle]

i don't think she WANTS to be a terrorist but I can agree she'll probably end up performing a re-enactment of the burning of Illmeris on a smaller scale given enough disassociation & time

[soft flame]

deus taking a mass of nameless diseases from the other side of the universe and making it our problem

[raven brook]

This is true i think

[thorn drift]

okay but has he considered that being a 20 meter tall flesh gorilla is fucking awesome?

[raven brook]

Hey it's not his fault... be nice to him...

[craggy sparrow]

Tbh

[thorn drift]

he was hungy... and then his food ate him actually

[limpid saddle]

he ate a bad apple & it gave him brainworms he didn't know any better

wait

[craggy sparrow]

we do clean up a lot of other people messes

[limpid saddle]

fuck

[dusk laurel]

bad apple

[raven brook]

he ate a what

say that again

[craggy sparrow]

its like normal ATP

[soft flame]

that is true

yharim's namely

[thorn drift]

"This apple is actually quite good"

[craggy sparrow]

do you guys think yharon can beat DoG

[raven brook]

yeah

[craggy sparrow]

with DoG armor

[thorn drift]

probably

[raven brook]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

yes

[limpid saddle]

I think he'd try to strive forward with a greater burden of loss

[soft flame]

yeh

[raven brook]

he's after him in progression ofr a reason

[craggy sparrow]

Okay what if DoG traps him in their pocket dimension

[raven brook]

Oh are we talking like

he regains his sapience

[limpid saddle]

also probably doesn't help he'll have his followers voives whispering to the depths of his soul to seek vengeance

[raven brook]

well

[thorn drift]

would it be a complete stomp though or a struggle

[raven brook]

he can still kill him

like

ok ur on his hometurf now

but like

still a giant dragon

[thorn drift]

new idea

[limpid saddle]

i suppose

[raven brook]

still can breathe fire

[thorn drift]

burn his home turf to a crisp

[raven brook]

In that case yeah i think he'd . try his best but still be like "dear lord"

[craggy sparrow]

Actually what is DoG armor made of

[raven brook]

but hey

his previous form was like

[thorn drift]

cosmilite

[dusk laurel]

[raven brook]

fairly monstruous so atleast he has SOME semblance of , being used to taht sort of thing

even if ravager is much more grotesque than agnus was originally

[craggy sparrow]

Wouldn't that be resistant to yharon flame

a bit

[raven brook]

what happens when you fight yharon with cosmilite armor ingame

theres ur answer

[soft flame]

wait right

[raven brook]

:p

[soft flame]

he was infected

[thorn drift]

the cosmilite? Sure, but the flesh isnt

[limpid saddle]

envisioning Ravager in a big robe with the souls of the followers holding him together visualised by cages hanging off of his body with little wisps in them

[soft flame]

by those diseases

must've forgotten

[thorn drift]

resistant does not equate retardant

thats a big difference

[raven brook]

Like yeah sure it can give protection but it's not making you immune or anything

DoG is still taking damage

It wouldn't be a like complete stomp i don't think

but Yharon absolutely has the greater chance of winning

[craggy sparrow]

leave a 1 star review to draedon

[dusk laurel]

if we want to be really accurate yharon might just melt dog's armor if given enough time

[craggy sparrow]

wrong ping

[thorn drift]

its like wrapping a raw steak in aluminium foil and putting it into an open flame, that shits getting grilled

[craggy sparrow]

[limpid saddle]

he's gonna message his master all over dog

[thorn drift]

honestly

[craggy sparrow]

he fucking sang it as if he isn't going to revive anyways

[thorn drift]

yharon just needs to bring a single piece of auric and auric reject his ass

[soft flame]

wait did draedon design dog's armor or directly make it again

[raven brook]

I mean i don't think a single piece of auric is gonna be any different from any other attack

[thorn drift]

well he is, but yharims gonna be fucking dead by the time he is

so hes austensibly dead

[limpid saddle]

It's more about how Yharim will die if Yharon fails

[raven brook]

It's damaging DoG but it's not gonna like. kill him instantly 😭

[icy veldt]

Yharon: "Instructions unclear, gave my bro a massage"

[craggy sparrow]

ping yharim

[thorn drift]

okay but itd be really funny to see a bigass worm get flung away

[limpid saddle]

& because of their bond that will (figuratively) kill Yharon

[raven brook]

I think DoG requested for the design and Draedon + his workers built it but idrm

[craggy sparrow]

"Bro you're cooked"

[raven brook]

Might be wrong on that

[thorn drift]

twas old lore i think?

[dusk laurel]

yharon already has auric pauldrons and horns and claws i dont think he needs to bring in more

[raven brook]

Regardless i'm sure that DoG played some part on the design

[craggy sparrow]

Can DoG talk telepathically?

[raven brook]

Not rly

[soft flame]

the planetoid log has details on it

[thorn drift]

might have misremembered then

[raven brook]

Maybe, it'd make sense

Menat ot reply

[thorn drift]

its like 3 am over here my brains kinda fried

[raven brook]

to this

[craggy sparrow]

i dont think they can talk from their mouth

[soft flame]

"a request from yharim something something"

[raven brook]

Like the reason i'm sure DoG played a part on designing his armor is just because come on it's DoG

[thorn drift]

sorta? At least to the hivemind he should be able to

and no i dont mean the boss

[raven brook]

He'd ask Draedon about all sorts of little details to make his armor super over the top and shiny and badass and etc

[thorn drift]

yeah sounds about right

[craggy sparrow]

Hold a/d

and dash

while holding mouse 1

[soft flame]

"A request from Yharim has been delivered. An inquiry to create a suit of armor for the serpent that has joined his forces recently, the “Devourer of Gods” as the serpent calls himself."

[craggy sparrow]

truely the best worm

[soft flame]

says nothing about dog wanting it himself

interestingly enough

[craggy sparrow]

I think it was sort of a gesture

[thorn drift]

maybe yharim just really wanted to see his giant space worm buddy dripped the fuck out

[craggy sparrow]

to their recent partnership

[soft flame]

now i'm curious as to how would dog look without armor

[craggy sparrow]

yharim knew their ass was gonna be washed so they made draedon make an armor for them

this is proven lore

[soft flame]

strange that there's no art on that or anything

[thorn drift]

there technically was one with the hpu design

but thats scrapped

[soft flame]

is that right

[thorn drift]

yes unfortunately

[limpid saddle]

How quickly would DoG switch up on Yharim for Noxus if Yharim read him bednight stories & tucked him in before he went to sleep

[craggy sparrow]

They should design the yharim boss fight like a pvp boss fight ngl

[thorn drift]

too late hes already becoming minos prime

[craggy sparrow]

Like hes using different weapons

healing

etc

[thorn drift]

no healing would be bullshit

[craggy sparrow]

ok maybe not healing

[limpid saddle]

FUCK NO‼️ ‼️ ‼️

[craggy sparrow]

but something like v2

[limpid saddle]

GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BULLSHIT

[craggy sparrow]

where it replicates the player

[craggy sparrow]

100 hp 30s cooldown

[limpid saddle]

Terrible idea

Would be impossible to implement

[soft flame]

mana regeneration

[craggy sparrow]

dw man hes gonna break his dash key in the 2nd phwse

[limpid saddle]

The second someone uses summons & a ranged weapon it would make your pc explode

Let alone considering multiplayer

[icy veldt]

DragonLens god-mode + butcher button

[thorn drift]

does he know what a double tap dash is?

[limpid saddle]

i've never used a dash key in my life personally

I dont got enough fingers for that shit

[thorn drift]

its not really necesscary anyways

at least not in base cal

[craggy sparrow]

yharim doesn't double tap

hes stupid like that

[thorn drift]

dumbass

[craggy sparrow]

he also has 300 qol mods installed

[thorn drift]

hed say its not honourable enough for him

[soft flame]

he's too used to vanilla classic so he never got the shield of cthuhlu

[craggy sparrow]

yharim please craft the master ninja gear already

its been 500 years

[soft flame]

he didn't get past wall of flesh

[limpid saddle]

i want to hear the peoples answer to this before i go to sleep

[soft flame]

why do you think the world ain't in hardmode after his reign

[thorn drift]

i assume this is a joke but its cuz he made the wall to contain the hardmode

[soft flame]

it is a joke

[thorn drift]

better clarify it in case it isnt yknow

[soft flame]

alright

[limpid saddle]

he kept getting one-tapped by unicorns so he had to undo hardmode

[craggy sparrow]

Can we say yharim is the ultimate gate keeper

mf locked everything in a flesh wall

[thorn drift]

considering he literally created the gate with wich he keeps, yes

[limpid saddle]

this is the lore reason why a wall can move that fast

[thorn drift]

also yharim is such a bitch

[limpid saddle]

It has 5000 horses in it

[thorn drift]

he turned a random ass dude into a flesh wall

[limpid saddle]

not a random dude

10000 dead civilians

[soft flame]

they may mean the guide idk

[limpid saddle]

the guide is bound to wof because his wife's in it or something but he isnt part of it

[thorn drift]

imagine you're just chilling and some golden fuckwad looking like hes the budget god-emperor of mankind comes along and turns you into a wall

[soft flame]

mm

[thorn drift]

zamn

what a simp

[soft flame]

is that why the wall spawns upon killing the guide in its turf

emotional trauma

[icy veldt]

*Looking and acting like

[abstract carbon]

I agree but the healing is a bit insane maybe make it 300 hp every 5 minutes but makes him more tanky than exos

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim reportedly uses ark of the cosmos parry as a crutch

[craggy sparrow]

Pretty good ig

but i think healing should be locked in the higher difficulties

[abstract carbon]

Maybe on death mode he has like 100m hp

And does more dmg the better ur gear is

And his final attack is like the old sonic frontiers true final boss in perspective and it's a grid of lazers that ohko u for like 4 minutes

Space invaders perspective

And the lazers move

[scenic olive]

unlike yharim we dont give a shit about the crimson and corruption spreading because of the evil gods

[plucky juniper]

they need to add astral infection cultists
you're telling me you have a genuinely awesome looking and well colored infection that doesnt afflict sapient people

and you dont got cultists

thatd be funny as hell

[agile matrix]

Specifically post-lunatic cultist

[regal atlas]

If Yharim is planned to be the final boss of calamity mod then does that mean that we won't fight Xeroc? Surely Xeroc is stronger than Yharim since he's depressed and hiding right now

[agile matrix]

hamster vs lion

Yharims whole job in life was to kill all the gods, and he got like most every single one

Xeroc was one of the few he could not get

[regal atlas]

Oh so Xeroc is alive not because he's stronger than Yharim but b/c he is in hiding or something?

[agile matrix]

no he's like

Orders of Magnitude Stronger

being the God of Primordial Light (aka the Fucking Sun) makes you Really Hard to Find/Kill

[regal atlas]

So unless they decide to make Yharim an ally, helps us kill Xeroc, then has us fight him. We won't fight Xeroc since he can't be the final boss

[agile matrix]

We Kill Yharim In The End last i checked

Yharim desperately wants us to Kill All The Gods and Complete His Crusade

and by Killing Him, we (in his eyes) Take Over as Crusade Leader

((despite Probably Not going to Continue Doing Allat)

[raven brook]

We will fight Xeroc if devs feel like adding him after Yharim's done

We just won't kill him

If he's added, he'll be a postgame superboss

[raven brook]

also yeah bros gonna die

[regal atlas]

do we have any idea where the story goes from here or is it up in the air but its a good chance we go straight to Yharim now?

[eager bluff]

i mean

[raven brook]

yeah its yharim after this

there wont be any bosses inbetween

[eager bluff]

once everything else gets changed yeah straight shot to yharim

[raven brook]

the mod dosen't want to add anymore bosses besides John Final Boss and the two Potentail superbosses

because the mod has enough bosses as is, arguably too many

anyways back to bed now i js got up to eat something

[regal atlas]

what is the other potential superboss besides Xeroc?

[eager bluff]

noxus

[regal atlas]

ah

[eager bluff]

mr john distortion itself

[regal atlas]

so they're the last 2 gods?

[eager bluff]

no

there are still a few left over that yharim didnt kill and noxus isnt a god

we dont know what it is but we are 100% certain it isnt a god

[agile matrix]

itd be kinda neat if noxus (if it shapes out to be that way) has a title of Not-God of [Thing]

[eager bluff]

why

thats

[agile matrix]

like the clinical antithesis to God

[eager bluff]

not even a cool sounding name

[agile matrix]

it would be Cool and that is It

[crude musk]

Does calclone have all of cal's memories or none of them

[long bloom]

some iirc

[scenic olive]

calamity 2 electric boogalo

[wanton pendant]

Silva is still alive, just blended into soup.
There are also likely a bunch of random gods who are in hiding.
Also Providence and Slime God are alive if you don't kill them.
Ravager, Hive Mind and Perforators are varying flavours of undead god.

[agile matrix]

Ravager is Very Very Fucked Up Godgoop
Silva is Mostly Unokay but Otherwise Okay Godgoop
Perfs/Hive Mind are Carcasses

(Godgoop Carcasses)

[long bloom]

wouldn't rav also be a carcass

[agile matrix]

im not sure if they used the actual body of the guy for the sacrifice or just tried reforming them

[long bloom]

both i think

original body supplemented with worshiper bodies

[limpid saddle]

Well given the fact he came back as a new God (God Of Blood) I don't think it would it would entirely accurate to call 'em a carcass

[limpid saddle]

& yeah thats true

[long scaffold]

If he's in the end where will the Ender Dragon go

[vestal lantern]

they will 2v1 us on god on god fr fr

[long scaffold]

Dang, Yharim's replacing Yharon already?

[vestal lantern]

it’s easier to respawn Jean than to wait for Yharon to rebirth

[long scaffold]

I mean I get why but it's a little disrespectful...

[reef wigeon]

The Empress of Light is a servant of the gods of blessing, I suppose, so idk if it counts

[split mortar]

Wha

[reef wigeon]

I mean, the gods that form the blessing biome

[soft flame]

hallow comes from wall of flesh which is a proper containment of godly essence

proper at least compared to other examples

[split mortar]

Eol herself aint a god since being blessed doesnt do that and the hallowed is as alive as the crimson and corruption

[latent bolt]

Golden Heretic, Yharim, has awoken!

[reef wigeon]

I know she's not a god

I meant she's like the Hivemind or the perforators

[feral skiff]

He's right behind me.. isn't he?

[reef wigeon]

No, I'm behind you

[vestal lantern]

eol a massive fraud she can’t even function properly at night

weak aura eol vs strong aura jared

[pulsar ocean]

Wait I forgot who even died for hallowed biome to form

[split mortar]

good gods

kinda a shame theres no explicit ones like dogma and war but eh

[jaunty niche]

but the prismatic coloring is damn beautiful

[vestal lantern]

still a fraud

[jaunty niche]

I'd believe that's her normal form by design

[normal mantle]

It was some god that pretty much wasn’t salty about dying so it’s essence wasn’t evil

Doesn’t say what god it was and since it doesn’t have a respective god actually FROM the essence there’s no solid guess

[split mortar]

There aint a singular god for crimson and corruption either
Dogma and war are just big players in the formation

[light linden]

I wonder what happened to the more neutral gods

[normal mantle]

The secondary evil bosses are supposedly attempts at reincarnation

[light linden]

worth mentioning

[normal mantle]

So that’s the most evidence we have of a guess at what those gods are

[split mortar]

Yes i know? Didnt contradict that?

[light linden]

small bits of their lore will likely change

if the retier happens

[normal mantle]

Like it’s pretty safe to guess that the crimson was a god of blood or something bodily

[light linden]

god of war

god of war's remains have emerged as the "head"

[split mortar]

Blood god is ravager

[split mortar]

God of war is mainly the perferator boss

[normal mantle]

Isn’t the ravager the reincarnation of the god of death/sacrifice

[light linden]

yes

[split mortar]

Yes but the domain changed as well

[light linden]

wait a thing I forgot to ask

[split mortar]

To blood

[light linden]

@cosmic zenith got a moment for a question?

[split mortar]

Why? We dunno maybe necromancy is just that fucking shit

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[light linden]

could beings like polterghast become more stable over time?

[normal mantle]

I mean I imagine it took a lot of blood sacrifices to make that big ahh thing

[split mortar]

Yeah bit thats just sacrificing so i dont see why itd change the domain

[cosmic zenith]

Not in a considerable way

[light linden]

aw

[cosmic zenith]

Ghosts tend to be snapshots of their mortal selves at the moment of their death

[light linden]

I was hoping given enough time it'd be something akin to ermac

[cosmic zenith]

Which is why freeing them requires careful and fairly extensive intercedence by the living

[light linden]

where most of the souls are working together in one body

[cosmic zenith]

Hard to do that for Polterghast, who's made up of at least hundreds of severely unstable souls

[light linden]

been wondering actually

[split mortar]

Could polterghast make a grilled cheese

[normal mantle]

Idk if real world stuff applies to souls but if a bunch of things are constantly pressed together they’d eventually be indistinguishable from each other and inseparable, like compression welding

[normal mantle]

There HAS to be a few souls of chefs mixed in there I’m sure

[light linden]

is a decent way to describe polterghast as something akin to the cluster gems from steven universe?

[normal mantle]

Yk that actually tracks pretty well

[split mortar]

Been a hot minute since i watched that but yeah actually i think so

[light linden]

they're effectively a bunch of body parts and pieces of brains grafted onto each other for context

generally creates misshapen people that are struggling to stay sane

[pulsar ocean]

morally neutral biome

[cosmic zenith]

The grafted part, yes

But coalescing isn't what makes Polter insane

[pulsar ocean]

like in jujutsu kaisen

[light linden]

I'd argue the cluster is prolly the most like polterghast

it's thousands of cluster gems all in one spot

[reef wigeon]

Why do Providence and the guardians appear in the hallowed?

[light linden]

old lore stuff

she'll appear in her own biome eventually

[reef wigeon]

Oh, I see

Why do certain enemies have her essence? Old lore stuff again?

[normal mantle]

id assume itd be obviously odd looking biomes but their influence wouldnt majorly alter anything, like unique colored trees and wildline instead of abominations

[light linden]

those enemies are tied to her

unsure what'll happen to em

if anything will

[normal mantle]

the guardians were her knights before they became divine, im assuming the lesser creatures were other subjects of hers in some way?

idk what providence actually was before i gotta refresh on that

if anything

[reef wigeon]

Someone who hunted the dragon of flame or fire, idk

[split mortar]

Providence and the guardians were people who hunted the dragon of flame zaelithar
Providence was the one who became a god and she gave the others her blessing or something iirc

[reef wigeon]

What exactly was the queen slime? I don't remember

[raven brook]

currently its slime god after trying to make a hallow paladin

but with the retier idk fat slime lol

[reef wigeon]

Sooooo... I repost this image on this channel

[wanton pendant]

???

[reef wigeon]

I meant "hallowed." I couldn't remember the English name

[normal mantle]

the god of gluttony transitioned

[normal mantle]

the empress of light has the power to borrow Xeroc's primordial light during the day so she's subservient to not piss him off and take that power from her

[light linden]

wrong

[split mortar]

The guys called slime god……

Theyre the god of slime

[plucky lichen]

God of slime genderfluid

Is that a head canon or just a fact

Idek

[eager bluff]

slime god isnt genderfluid its gendersludge

genderslime even

[plucky lichen]

Goop of gender

[spring helm]

Slime god isnt genderfluid, they’re just fluid

[dusk laurel]

nonsense

[agile matrix]

isnt the word god gender neutral

[light linden]

@manic coral hey you're the dev who writes for permafrost right?

[manic coral]

yes

[light linden]

is him creating a metal through magic one of the reasons he's so highly regarded in lore?

[manic coral]

why would i say something that can and will be clarified in-game

anywyas i shall return to monster hunting

[light linden]

I didn't know if it was going to tbf

sorry for wasting your time

[manic coral]

idm

i just have 0 input

[woeful hatch]

You should waste her time more

As a joke

[normal mantle]

slime god has the soul of the dragon of gluttony

same same

[split mortar]

Its actually pretty important which gods ascended and kept the same domain and which ones didnt

[normal mantle]

i mean slimes are in some way a symbol of gluttony

so the resemblance is clear

[split mortar]

Yes thats why slime god could become slime god from gluttony dragon

[normal mantle]

providence is still fire, idk where the geode bit came from

[split mortar]

Providence is ash goddess most likely (tho its not stated exactly in game yet what she is the goddess of)
She didnt perfect ascend

Only silva and xeroc are the known only perfect ascensions
All other gods have a different but adjacent domain to the dragon

[long bloom]

handy chart

[raven brook]

Oh john death has a name now

[pulsar ocean]

why slime god so slimy

[long bloom]

truly a mystery

[worldly spindle]

Silva looks so adorable

How could Yharim kill that gal

[pulsar ocean]

is providence getting a redesign she looks kinda out of place

[dusk laurel]

we dunno

its too far in the future to know

[long bloom]

maybe
maybe not

[worldly spindle]

prov looks amazing idc

[pulsar ocean]

does she tho

[worldly spindle]

YES!!!

[raven brook]

She might get a redesign but not confirmed

[dusk laurel]

spritewise its fine but like the actual design is pretty shallow

[long bloom]

a lot more could be done

[raven brook]

The design imo could use a lesser redesign

[worldly spindle]

Wreathed in blinding flame, such commanding stature, she’s amazing

[dusk laurel]

it was made with the old version of the lore in mind and the design is also just messy in general since everything is kinda blobby in how it melds together, especially the head area

[raven brook]

Not a complete 180 redo of her concept but adjudsting and polishing design elements to make her better

[worldly spindle]

I agree it could be less noisy but I still love the idea

Yes, what Cheese said

[raven brook]

Vs something like evil2 were. Yeah this shit unsalvageable just make a entirely new thing 😭

[dusk laurel]

rn provi is a rock golem with fire wings, a crystal core/heart and pauldrons, roots emerging from her body, and uhhh thats it i think, theres nothing wrong with it but the ideas dont work well together and was is her shape even supposed to be

[eager bluff]

main issue with respriting bosses like provi is jesus fuck thats huge

[worldly spindle]

She doesn’t do contact damage anyway so no biggie

[eager bluff]

so i wouldnt put too much stock into a resprite got a good while

[long bloom]

tbf new yharon is about the same size

byeah

[dusk laurel]

old levi being the size of half the screen for some reason

[eager bluff]

and new yharon has also been in spriter hell for like 5 years

[long bloom]

true

[worldly spindle]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it‼️

[pulsar ocean]

Green yharon

[agile matrix]

New Yharon will instead be Fought to the Tune of Lava Chicken ft. Jack Black as Yharim

[raven brook]

I think Yharon's sprite isn't broke

[mighty zenith]

yharon is broke

no money

[raven brook]

It's worse it's like just scrap

[mighty zenith]

its more like mold

the longer it sits there the more its gonna stink

[raven brook]

It's not even just broken its unrecognizable scrap

[mighty zenith]

and eventually you gotta throw it out

[dusk laurel]

HOW is the animation quality of the original sprite better than the current sprite

[mighty zenith]

theres more frames i think

[eager bluff]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

also the wings just lose quality mid-animation

[young socket]

not just that

[raven brook]

Yharon downscale

[young socket]

yea

[eager bluff]

more frames and less detail required to animate each frame

[young socket]

current yharon wings is like persons first attempt at smear frames and failing miserably

[raven brook]

Polterghast

[hoary cape]

polterghast is peak

[mighty zenith]

scissors

blue pair of scissors

paper mario origami king-ass enemy

[dusk laurel]

polterghast my beloathed

[hoary cape]

polter resprite gonna be fire

[long bloom]

[eager bluff]

i remember seeing someone, i forgot who, complaining about polterghast having mandibles, and then made a redesign that was like 90% mandible

like within the same week

[hoary cape]

even if it may or may not be the one that was in the doc i don't know who made that one lol

[dusk laurel]

😭

[hoary cape]

user: why does boss have mandibles?
also user 5 minutes later: mandible boss

[pulsar ocean]

Was it good

[sinful adder]

We wouldn't be able to kill xeroc even with Yharim's help. That said, we will be able to fight xeroc. He's actually a pretty chill guy and will do it for training

[pulsar ocean]

it only takes 40 yharims to kill xeroc

just make draedon clone 39 more and give all of them telepathy and mock auric

[long bloom]

if the clones had souls they could use auric regularly

[compact sonnet]

Was reading thru the lore doc, and there's something I don't quite get, specifically about us being able to actually utilise auric ore, cause from the way I understood it, yharim having some kind of attunement to yharon is what let him use auric armor, but unless I am not fully understanding the definition of "attunement" it wouldn't make much sense for us to be able to use the same armor considering we don't attune with any dragon like yharim did. The only explanation I could come up with is the fact Auric Bars have Yharon Soul Fragments within them, which is what lets you utilize it properly

[agile matrix]

yea you got it basically exactly

we fake attuned with the stuff by putting soul frags in it

it isnt proper and isnt incredibly done but still

[long bloom]

like sticker said, yeah that what happened

it's called mock attunement

so we can touch mock attuned auric without exploding
but so can everyone else

so you don't get to auric reject other people like yharim can

[compact sonnet]

Hm, it also had something about yharim's armor being enhanced by exo technology, which is interesting considering Draedon is trying to make us about equal to him, but nothing about our auric set seems or can be made into anything exo-like. Might be future content for all I know

[long bloom]

in the future, the pre yharim armors will be exo and demonshade

from exos and scal respectively

[light linden]

I do wonder

what'll happen with auric centuries down the line?

[long bloom]

we don't know enough about it to say yet

[light linden]

with it being largely unworkable will it just be effectively waste?

if so that's a damned shame

unless there's a third method to make it workable

yharon's p-

oh my god

yharon could in theory have a monopoly on auric

if yharon turns into the auric equivalent of an oil baron that'd be funny as fuck

[dusk laurel]

timeline where yharon just gives up and starts trying to exploit people instead of getting revenge

[reef wigeon]

Can a god touch Auric without exploding or smt?

[long bloom]

only if they're attuned

somehow

ascending doesn't affect your ability to use auric

just if you're attuned or not

which gods probably can't be? idk

[agile matrix]

it'd be really really interesting in a post civilization world to have Auric be like

kinda like Egyptians with Meteorite

like you glue this to the end of a stick or you somehow make it float and this thing can Hurt

[wanton pendant]

Budget Wakanda.

[light linden]

I do wonder what'd happen if auric hit vibranium

[strong quail]

An unstoppable force meets an immovable object

[wanton pendant]

It takes a screenshot.

[agile matrix]

auric would explode backwards and vibranium would explode towards it

[long bloom]

doesn't vibrainuim just absorb vibrations real good

does it do anything else

[light linden]

it depends on the type but

wakandan it redirects kinetic energy

[wanton pendant]

It does a bunch of stuff.

But mainly the vibration thing is the selling point.

[light linden]

antarctic vibranium is basically acid for metals

[wanton pendant]

It's one of the strongest materials in Marvel, along with Adamantium and I believe Uru is up there.

[long bloom]

uru is literally made with stars so

yeah

[wanton pendant]

Uru also is immune to energy and stuff.

[light linden]

it makes any nearby metals dissolve

[wanton pendant]

Adamantium just kills you.

[long bloom]

peak

[light linden]

in theory it could melt auric

since it seems to make all metals dissolve, even pure adamantium

[agile matrix]

theres a Lot of Things that the Comic Book Metal Does

because it Makes Fuckin Money

theres like Eight Kryptonites, for example

[wanton pendant]

Exactly, Tchalla is like the richest character in Marvel.

[agile matrix]

well i mean

they are in africa.

[wanton pendant]

You got to cover all the classic bases, the one that makes you weak, the one that removes your power, the one that makes you angry, the one that makes you gay, the one that makes you big, and so on.

[agile matrix]

Africa is. Legally Infamous. for having a lot of riches

[agile matrix]

the one that makes you a girl

[wanton pendant]

That's the one that makes you gay when the writers are cowards.

[agile matrix]

the one that splits you into like five

[wanton pendant]

I don't think that was kryptonite.

[agile matrix]

no im pretty sure that was kryptonite

it was like

Black or Brown

something like that

[wanton pendant]

So it is, Black Kryptonite.

[agile matrix]

mighta also been related to that one Batman episode where Batman got split into his personalities, not sure

[agile matrix]

yeeessir

[wanton pendant]

And also Artificial Kryptonite splits into two.

[agile matrix]

what is Yharims Kryptonite

theres gotta be Something that just makes him Shrivel Up

[leaden bridge]

Evil Auric

[wanton pendant]

Child labour laws.

[agile matrix]

bringing some paper to the fight and he just turns into ash

[long bloom]

how calamitous

[cosmic zenith]

Beekeeper suit

[latent flower]

wouldnt he love beekeeper suit

[wanton pendant]

Yharim thinks beekeepers are slave owners, but for bees.
He refuses to listen to all claims on the contrary.
Source: I worked on Bee Movie (2007), and Barry B. Benson told me personally.

[agile matrix]

Bro loves Bees but Hates Beekeepers, who Flat Out are Really Cool with Bees (last i checked)

[wanton pendant]

He got his knowledge from Bee Movie (2007).
(He was part of the test audience.)

[leaden bridge]

Actually since he's from the beekeper clan which is known because he has a beekeper framed he'd be weak against beeslayer suits

[scenic olive]

the beeslayer armor

[robust osprey]

gay people

[strong quail]

???

[robust osprey]

yharims kryptonite is gay people. clearly

it's his weakness

[zenith geode]

i had to think for a second but yeah

[zenith geode]

(braelor and statis)

[strong quail]

oh huh

[zenith geode]

they wouldve actually merced yharim had dog not deus ex machinad their asses to the distortion

[pulsar ocean]

broiler and status

[agile matrix]

wouldnt it be like

oh no you did say not deus

[warm gull]

hideo kojima

[pulsar ocean]

Why doesnt hideo kojima write the calamity lore

[split mortar]

Called hideo kojime not lore writer

[thick slate]

he makes hideo games

[mighty zenith]

character called "permafrost"
gets stuck in ice

did kojima write this

[scenic yacht]

yes

[limpid saddle]

The spirit of Kojima possessing the writing team as they fix the bullshit Fabsol wrote into a compelling narrative

[wanton pendant]

After we defeat Yharim we must seek out his eight clones.

[hushed jasper]

1.4.5 tomorrow yay

[raven brook]

how loreous

[cosmic zenith]

Hideo Kojima reprises his role as Paul the Mole in Calamity

[leaden bridge]

did he invite a vtuber or celebrity to play someone else

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hello

[crude musk]

How would a fight between the us army and the exo mechs go

[thick slate]

the army or the military

the army would get stomped

i think the military would probably overwhelm the exos

[light linden]

I think y'all are forgetting two things

ares could literally saw through them and thanatos is largely invulnerable

..huh come to think of it

[light linden]

hey stip you got a sec?

[cosmic zenith]

I do

[crude musk]

Military... I might be stupid

[thick slate]

nuclear bomb

[light linden]

how hot does thanatos's heat venting get?

[cosmic zenith]

I personally don't know
Another writer might

[thick slate]

what he made out of

[light linden]

I'm wondering if it gets hot enough to melt standard bullets irl

[thick slate]

definitely

bullets made of lead

ovens can melt lead

if thanatos is hotter than an oven then yea

[crude musk]

How much damage could the death animation cause

Cause there's a lot of energy in all the exos at any given time

[thick slate]

how do the exo mechs fly

well i know how

but using what

[light linden]

I

wait a second

what's even controlling the exo mechs?

is it draedon himself?

[thick slate]

yea

most likely

i feel like he is capable enough

[mighty zenith]

i imagine they have their own AI

as in they're coded to act on their own

within bounds ofc

[thick slate]

maybe since the mechs do

[mighty zenith]

draedon likes his machines controllable

[pulsar ocean]

solid yharim

liquid yharim

venom yharim

[young socket]

they have their own ai

draedon says this in draetalk

[thick slate]

cool

[light linden]

venom ain't a clone

[thick slate]

how do artemis and apollo fly

how fast can they move

they dont look very aerodynamic

especially they second phase

unless them opening up acts as a really big air intake for the thrusters

[thorn drift]

I find it deeply hilarious that despite all his effort and people he genocided, yharim just straight up cannot win
His mission will NEVER be truely accomplished

[thick slate]

i wish draedon was real

thatd be cool

so i could ask him how his shit works

[thorn drift]

why the fuck would he tell you

[mighty zenith]

i wish draedon was real

[thick slate]

cuz he loves me

[thorn drift]

its his magnum opus he aint sharing that shit

[thick slate]

?????

yea see garbo gets it

[thorn drift]

I also wish draedon was real

but hed probably just sic a plague on us

[simple tangle]

He genuinely doesnt seem to have problems w sharing his research

[thick slate]

i wonder how draedon feels about being a marketable plushie

[thick slate]

for why

[simple tangle]

Thats counterproductive to his Main goal

[thorn drift]

science of course

[thick slate]

yea he literally yaps about everything for ages

he tells us how to harness infinite energy

[cloud ibex]

no he wouldn't

[untold sable]

yeah he is literally leaving his research in bio-center labs uncovered

[thorn drift]

kinda... he told you its POSSIBLE, he didnt tell you how to do it

[thick slate]

sea prism

dense

or some shit

[cloud ibex]

he'd look at us, see that there's not really much interesting going on and then fuck off to somewhere else

[thorn drift]

aware, but he also directly told us he turned them into exo prisms

[thick slate]

go WHERE

[thorn drift]

never told us how

[thick slate]

yea id figure it out

[thorn drift]

yeah, but he only did that after we had proven ourselves worthy, remember that

[split mortar]

Draedon would piss on the moon

[untold sable]

I was looking at exo mechanical trio and found something about Braelor's axe
Who the heck is Braelor and why Silva made him axe

[thick slate]

this circles back to the us military conversation

[dusk laurel]

this doesnt really make sense

[thorn drift]

he sic'd a plage onto the jungle, might as well test how it affects a large population of humans /j

[thick slate]

i really hate how every channel is this server has a naming convention except this one

why isnt it calamity lore talk

[simple tangle]

I mean whats there to find out
Lots of people die, big deal

[dusk laurel]

hes definitely learned enough about human psychology when terrorized during his crusade days

[thorn drift]

yes but think of the data! he could test how exactly it kills you and how fast idfk

[thick slate]

japanese scientists finding out if you give a chinese toddler the bubonic plague and skin them they die

[dusk laurel]

literally that

[thick slate]

and why would he need this

[simple tangle]

I don't think Draedon would freeze a toddler just to see what happens like u can easily figure this out w/o doing that (referring to the same japanese reseatch facility)

[thorn drift]

yes but could you tell me what would freeze first? How long would it take for said toddler to freeze?

[dusk laurel]

also his reasons for releasing the plague into the jungle was to create a better version of life not just because he wants to infect things randomly

[simple tangle]

My war criminal wouldnt do THOSE war crimes!!

[thick slate]

draedon would probably just do surveillance

[thick slate]

do you want to know

[dusk laurel]

and yharim released the plague early because he went into a fit of rage when seeing pbg and broke it out

[thick slate]

i can do the math

massive ahh hole in the jungle lab

yharim is a bum

[thorn drift]

ngl, speaking of, one thing that always bugged me is that the plague is released later in progression, but you already find the plague lab broken, even in pre hardmode

was it just like

dormant or something?

[dusk laurel]

i dunno and also its gonna be changed eventually

[thick slate]

hooray

[dusk laurel]

no more post golem plague

[thick slate]

golem is actually a chad and holds the plague within him

like the hollow knight

[thorn drift]

holy shit, artificial vessel designed to contain an infection? Literally hollowknight

[simple tangle]

The terrarian strolling into a temple to kill some random native people's religious icon

[thick slate]

i can see the lihzards making a vessel to contain it

i dont think they that smart tho

[simple tangle]

Just cuz

[thick slate]

also why would they make the vessel animate

[thorn drift]

to be fair, thats the same reason we kill slime god

or most bosses, for that matter

[simple tangle]

Yeag

[thorn drift]

just cuz

[simple tangle]

I mean a lot of bosses are genuine menaces but like

Fuck did Plantera do

[raven brook]

eat you

[thorn drift]

the terrarian just really, really hates roses

[thick slate]

be green

[simple tangle]

I think the terrarian is also justified in murking the mech trio

[dusk laurel]

skeletron prime is literally a terrorism robot

[thick slate]

they should make prime real

[simple tangle]

Providence also needed to go

[thorn drift]

skeletron prime probably has >KILL SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE written into its source code

[thick slate]

why do people use the outdated number

[dusk laurel]

no its just powered by yharim's soldiers' souls

[thorn drift]

the fuck did most other bosses do though

[thick slate]

it just is 8 billion

[simple tangle]

And those soldiers want nothing more than to KILL EVERYONE

[thorn drift]

Eye is understandable, same with the evil bosses ig, also king slime, dudes a menace

but what the fuck did queen bee do

what did slime god do

[thick slate]

be yellow

[raven brook]

slime god jumps you dude

[dusk laurel]

most bosses attack the terrarian first canonically

[raven brook]

slime gods a dick

[thick slate]

slime god an opp

[raven brook]

dont defend slime god i hate that guy

[thick slate]

and fat

[thorn drift]

Why the fuck did we find a doll of the guide and decided we actually hate that guy

[raven brook]

queen bee yeah u break her stupid little chud larva and then she gets mad at you

[thick slate]

imagine becoming a god and you become slime god

id be mad as fuck too

and you are a little spherical thing

[thorn drift]

bro was literally just chilling though

[raven brook]

no he wasnt

he jumps you

for no reason

[thorn drift]

oh

damn

yeah fuck that guy

[thick slate]

what is overloaded sludge

[simple tangle]

Skeletron also like
The terrarian is fully justified in killing

[thorn drift]

pussy runs away too

[mighty zenith]

slime bum

[raven brook]

its a sludge thats overloaded

duh

[thick slate]

u took his sludge dude

[thorn drift]

yeah but thats a curse

the fuck did a bee do

to be fair, bees are absolute bastards in terraria

but still

[raven brook]

you break its larva so it gets mad at you

[mighty zenith]

its called poaching

[raven brook]

whether thats an accident or intentional or you have any ulterior reasons for it idk up to you whatever

[mighty zenith]

and it uhh sucks poachers bad

[thick slate]

its call hunting for sport

[raven brook]

maybe it was an accident

maybe you just really wanted to eat queen bee

[thick slate]

but poached egg yumy ?

[raven brook]

idk

sometimes you just wanna eat a bee

it is what it is

[mighty zenith]

why would u poach eggs

those are babies

[raven brook]

cant blame anyone for wanting to eat a bee

[thorn drift]

did you ever eat bee flesh? its delicious

[raven brook]

yeah