lore-discussion

[sinful adder]

How do I call a mod here

[pulsar ocean]

@jaunty aspen

trial mode!!!!1111

[jaunty aspen]

yeah?

oh

[pulsar ocean]

crypto scam dude

[jaunty aspen]

i see

[pulsar ocean]

Do the thing

[jaunty aspen]

ill handle it

i cnat ban i need to get someone

ill handle it tho

[pulsar ocean]

💔

What do trial mods even do

[jaunty aspen]

i can do other things warn etc etc

obv i cant ban cause thats too much power for a fresh mod

ill delete his message

[pulsar ocean]

Delete the message

Hooray

[jaunty aspen]

i preidct ur next word

[strong quail]

Gave them a timeout so they don't spread, waiting for the hammer to fall

[jaunty aspen]

yuh

[strong quail]

Ginyuh?

[limpid saddle]

Oh that's the explanation now? I thought it was like Sticker said, he didn't realise God Essence could or would fester in the earth & corrode it until, y'know, the corruption & crimson happened

[limpid saddle]

if anything it being left there intentionally to show people the vile nature of the gods seems like the yhapaganda way of framing it over 'he (reasonably) had no idea they could do that & didn't really know how to undo it'

[dusk laurel]

the corruption and crimson wouldve been the first to create biomes anyways

since they were created from gods including dogma and war which were yharims first targets

[thick slate]

dogma

[dusk laurel]

its not unreasonable to say he didnt know at first but like this isnt the first example of a god dying and having its essence fester and create monsters (eoc as an example)

[night barn]

dogma balls

[leaden bridge]

bro loss 71% on auric stocks lmfaoooooo

also the concept of a crypto trading wrapped is so funny in general

[sinful adder]

Oh hey it's the scam again

@feral fiber

[thick slate]

bro pinged feedza

[hoary cape]

Scams are canon to lore

[abstract carbon]

Does steven universe solo calamity? 🤔

[icy veldt]

Like how Permafrost stuck around even after realizing that he fell for the "making the world better" scam

[split mortar]

I dont see steven destroying italy in a few days or weeks like scal did
Tho idk much about steven universe scaling

[abstract carbon]

Well end of future steven scales PAST the diamonds whos corruption blast corrupted about 99.99% of all gems on earth (so abt planet level feat im pretty sure)

[mighty zenith]

wasn't he like unable to defeat them

i haven't watched SU but i heard stuff about the ending

[split mortar]

Ok but that blast also like only affected gems
Which
None of the calamity characters are
I feel using that as a feat is not the best when the diamonds seem to be very specialised in fucking up gems

[split mortar]

Also pretty sure the diamonds werent trying to like kill steven

[eager bluff]

anti xeroc beam it only kills xeroc and does nothing to anybody else clearly this means the creator is stronger than xeroc

so no that

does not count as a feat usable for out of universe scaling

[split mortar]

I dont remember fully what goes on but i dont think white diamond even tried mind controlling steven
Instead did the opposite of copying steven which went bad iirc

[mighty zenith]

button that kills goku

[split mortar]

Sadly calamity doesnt have much on direct feats iirc so beat we can go off of is dev statements which are not consistent

Yharim being able to oneshot a small city or cleave a mountain in half are statements but then so is scal vaporising the mediteranean sea in a few days iirc

[eager bluff]

even just saying "oh thats a planetary feat" doesnt mean shit because like look at star wars. 2 rockets were enough to destroy a space station the size of a moon that can destroy planets and a rocket is distinctly not planetary level

[split mortar]

Why didnt the gems just like put a cloth over their gems to block the diamond corruption blast

Are they stupif

[leaden bridge]

Because it's a bad way to measure especially with structures and weapons

[cosmic zenith]

Humans when the infinitely complex nature of reality can't be measured by a single quantifiable trait

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-computer-smile-yellow-smile-surprised-gif-26981337

[leaden bridge]

The Deathray Of Ultra Death is screwdriver level because it's made using screws and you can destroy it by unscrewing it

[agile matrix]

no the beam is stronger than xeorc

xeroc*

[woeful karma]

my oc goku beater who is an old man on life support who emits radiation that instantly kills goku specifically on contact

literally every character in fiction can beat goku beater, and goku beater can beat goku, therefore everyone beats goku

[raven brook]

That's where you lose

for you see

[low lily]

Steven midverse

[cosmic zenith]

Does that make me a fictional character

I can beat goku

[woeful karma]

yes

[raven brook]

my oc Goku Loser has a special trait that lets them win against literally everyone ever

[cosmic zenith]

Crazy

[raven brook]

except for goku

[woeful karma]

banished to the dark world

[raven brook]

if goku appears they dissolve instantly

they can also beat goku beater

thus, goku > everyone

[woeful karma]

oh

[raven brook]

did anyone mention steven universe

at all

[woeful karma]

foiled again

yeah they did

[raven brook]

true

jaykay47 mentioned steven universe

[woeful karma]

.

[sinful adder]

The sad part is that it could be turned into a decent measurement. Power scalers are just completely braindead

[raven brook]

Oh so that's why

[sinful adder]

You measure the energy output of an attack

[raven brook]

power scale discourse numero trezentos e quarenta e quatro

who care

[woeful karma]

yeah but even then thats stupid and conditional

and only useful for measuring the raw destructive power of an attack

[raven brook]

seeing people arguing about how powerscaling is dumb genuinely something that, atleast from my experience

happens way more often than actually seeing dumb powerscaling arguments

its more annoying than it atp

[sinful adder]

Yes, this is true, but the thing is: power scalers fail even at that

[raven brook]

I imagine most of the dumb powerscaling arguments are in circles focused on that sort of thing

[low lily]

Yes someone did if you scroll up

[sinful adder]

Vs battles wiki is entirely dumb arguments that make no sense

[raven brook]

Good thing i'm not there

And thus don't need to care

😌

[woeful karma]

[sinful adder]

True!

[raven brook]

My fault

[woeful karma]

anyways enough pointless annoying overused discussions

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah! I wouldn't say powerscaling is dumb, it's another consequence of how our brains work; the real dumb thing is misreading what powerscaling is, what it can predict, and its limitations

[woeful karma]

how would every calamity boss taste

:3

[long bloom]

yharon wou

[woeful karma]

he sure wou

[cosmic zenith]

Good job diverting from pointless annoying overused discussions Octo

[cloud ibex]

octo you're being put in the hole sorry

[woeful karma]

WHAT

[raven brook]

when are we getting a john dogma design

[long bloom]

the eel pit

[raven brook]

i am very intrigued by john dogma's design specifically nad i dont know why

[woeful karma]

oh

[raven brook]

i guess i'm just eally curious about how the themes of religious fanaticism and dogma can be incorporated into a design like that

[long bloom]

so true chese

[woeful karma]

fact: a school of eels can skeletonize a pizza in less than a minute

[worldly spindle]

ew

ew

back to lore please

[cosmic zenith]

When John gets off the shower, the cameraman is hydrophobic

[long bloom]

why is he scared of water

silly

[raven brook]

do you have eelphobia or sm

That probably exists

[cosmic zenith]

Please let there be blindfolds and candles

[raven brook]

It does apparently. Cheliphobia

that's new

[raven brook]

Ok true

[woeful karma]

tfym "please let there be" you are a developer

[raven brook]

Blindfolds and Candles would be really cool

[cosmic zenith]

I'll definitely advocate for it

[raven brook]

hes not a concept artist thou...

[long bloom]

not an artist though

[limpid saddle]

i need to post this everytime someone says that now its a physiological need now

[cosmic zenith]

But I think Triangle will take the lead on that one

[long bloom]

oh damn

[raven brook]

Based]

[cloud ibex]

the first thing that came to mind for me was that their outfit would have a metric ton of religious greebles hanging off of it basically everywhere

[limpid saddle]

i remember making one

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah!

[long bloom]

so would it be like a sprite first or would triangle draw it

[raven brook]

what is a greeble

[cloud ibex]

thinguses

[long bloom]

star wars term

[cloud ibex]

doohickeys

thingamajigs

you know the type

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[raven brook]

oh i see

[long bloom]

basically means meaningless details

like on ships

[cosmic zenith]

Probably write down and draw first

[woeful karma]

this is greebling

[raven brook]

I mean john dogma wont get a sprite ingame i imagine given

hes fucking dead

SO i imagine concept art

For non-hivemind john dogma

[long bloom]

yeah i just dunno if triangle draws or only sprites

[raven brook]

he does draw p sure

ive seen him work with some concept art before

[long bloom]

cool

[limpid saddle]

so is the idea that you're thinking of him trying to invoke a vague authority through religious imagery or they just slapped a bunch of nonsensical shit everywhere

[cosmic zenith]

I say that Triangle will take the lead because he's been the most involved with the concept of God of Dogma, and I assume he'd already have a vision for what he wants (like the Dragon of Frost and Dragon of Gluttony before)

[young socket]

can we blow up octo

[raven brook]

gloombo

[young socket]

with a rpg

[long bloom]

and gluttony??

gloomborf real????

[cloud ibex]

more the former i guess

[woeful karma]

i have 1,200 blast resistance

[cloud ibex]

i like the idea of dogma fully buying into whatever they're selling

[dusk laurel]

dogma would be fully committed to the bit

[cloud ibex]

dogma would be so wholly committed to the bit they'd forget that it was supposed to be a bit

[young socket]

dont care

/kills you

[woeful karma]

oh

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-balh-blah-balh-bla-bla-shut-up-bro-gif-25742861

Gloomborf more like Gloombarf smh....

[raven brook]

i mean he is the dragon of gluttony yeah proibabyl

[cloud ibex]

i think it was cheese who mentioned it first but along with the idea of War not actually giving a shit about what the cult is pushing and just wanting an excuse to kill people, it's interesting to imagine that yharim ended up inheriting aspects of the two blended together

[young socket]

btw the creatures like boc and eow and eoc and whatnot dont have any colloquial term do they

[cloud ibex]

fully believing that he's doing the crusade to avenge the dragons when deep down he's only doing it to avenge himself

[cosmic zenith]

YOU.

[raven brook]

yep

triangle did mention smth smth dogma doing everytrhing he does for the sake of humanity or wtv

Strikes me as the type of villain whos all like

well the ends justify the means (no they dont

[raven brook]

not that i know of

[eager bluff]

i will evolve humanity to a HIGHER FORM!!

[young socket]

yharim calls them folly of the gods iirc but i feel like not everyone would call them that

[raven brook]

Blightspawn for the common enemies

Greater Blightspawn for big ones like those guys

clueful

[eager bluff]

i think most of them would just be monsters

[dusk laurel]

this is roy shit isnt it

[eager bluff]

like oh shit theres a big monster hanging around the crimson

[young socket]

blight like like like

[raven brook]

no it isnt ....

[young socket]

soul of blight

[limpid saddle]

you think his scheme with Yharim's Ascension was to privatize & control human immortality

[young socket]

like ocram

[raven brook]

smh ..

[spice pawn]

Is ocram in calamity lore

[eager bluff]

no

[spice pawn]

[eager bluff]

dogma doesnt strike me as a profit oriented kinda guy

[limpid saddle]

He seems like the kind of guy who would pick & choose though

[young socket]

dogma would hate doing economics but hes forced to do them since no one else in the god council wants to do it

[young socket]

ur telling me the god of war is gonna want to govern the economics of a country???

also it would be nice if we knew more gods on the god council cuz its currently just

two

[cloud ibex]

tangentially related thought: maybe right before yharim killed them, instead of going "NOOOO MY PLANS ARE FOILED CURSE YOU" or whatever the hell, Dogma was going "you may kill me in body but you will never kill me in memory. so long as there llives those who have heard me speak, i will live on in their souls made free by my presence" or something to that effect

mirroring yharim at this point being like "even if i die by your hands, i will have won if i have made you my successor"

[limpid saddle]

I've always read Dogma as someone who is very pretentious, & it is only in his last moments he sees his true importance, or lack thereof

[cosmic zenith]

Godma balding Yharon to sell his hair as thneeds

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[limpid saddle]

it's just... so peak...

[jaunty wraith]

Quick, we need to make the most peak song ever for godma just to not use it and replace it with garbage

[eager bluff]

hes the god of dogma i think he's the single person that would admit their worldview or end goal being wrong after yharim did

[limpid saddle]

I don't mean he would turn around & go 'oh im a bad guy' but moreso 'oh im GOING to die'

[eager bluff]

i dont buy that something would cause the god of dogma to abandon his self made dogma

thats not seeing a lack of worth

[jaunty wraith]

Maybe he never believed his ideals he spewed out for his followers to begin wirh?

[woeful karma]

im pretty sure those are the colloquial terms

[limpid saddle]

I mean Yharim, his very own follower, tore down whatever his empire was bit by bit, erased it so completely there exist zero traces of it, the only evidence for his own existence lies in his squallid corpse that has infested & melded with a dozen others

[eager bluff]

the guy probably believes that when he dies hell still be important he thinks hes going to be a martyr

[cloud ibex]

i think that'd be less interesting than him fully believing it

[jaunty wraith]

Actually wait

What if he started not beleiving it, but since his powers are dogma, he eventually slipped into believing it

[limpid saddle]

theres something striking about a God of a concept like that, like something that digs so deep into someones psyche utterly vanishing

I'd like to think Yharim tore the figurative nail out of his head anyway

though it seems after the fact it just got stuck in Yharim's instead

[eager bluff]

you dont get rid of that level of devotion

he can accept being dead

because hes so thoroughly deluded/convinced himself that his path is the right path and someone will take up that same mantle because obviously this path is the only correct one

the same goes for yharim

[jaunty wraith]

Thing the god of dogma tried to pull a "you and I aernt that different" thing with yharim

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hello

[young socket]

i meant a term for all of them, rather a name for an individual creature

like how gods are well

gods

[light linden]

got time for a question?

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[light linden]

how recently has draedon dumped stuff into the sea?

[cosmic zenith]

I wouldn't be able to give you an official answer
But I'd say he started about 40 years ago

[light linden]

I'm wondering if he dumped any prototypes for exo tech there

[jaunty wraith]

Ooh imagine seeing broken prototype exo prisms scattered through out and decor

Be a great bit of envirmental forshadowing

[icy veldt]

Nah they absolutely do

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[robust osprey]

ragebaits you

[icy veldt]

No, it genuinely is true. The moral worth of an action is determined by the results of a particular instance of it being done, not by anything about action itself

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[leaden bridge]

No that isn't true like at all

[icy veldt]

Speaking of ragebait

[leaden bridge]

what?

[split mortar]

You got ragebaited

[leaden bridge]

What?

[icy veldt]

You cannot ragebait me

[leaden bridge]

What are you talking about 😭

[icy veldt]

Your ragebaiting claim that "the ends don't justify the means"

[leaden bridge]

?????

When did we say that

[icy veldt]

Here

???

[woeful karma]

i must not give in to bait

bait is the mind killer

[leaden bridge]

that's not what we said

[robust osprey]

I love bait

I love fishing

[leaden bridge]

if you read the message you can see we didn't say that

[woeful karma]

true!!!

[robust osprey]

fishes you up

[young socket]

throws bait at ur mind

[woeful karma]

oh

i live at the bottom of the sea

image of me rn

[icy veldt]

It's paraphrased, not exact words

[leaden bridge]

That's not what paraphrasing is

[robust osprey]

fishable

[icy veldt]

I say that the ends genuinely do justify the means (my exact words are simply an expanded phrasing of that)
You say "No that isn't true like at all"
???

[split mortar]

Lore

[icy veldt]

But also this isn't relevant to Calamity lore, so I'll have to think of something to discuss that is

[leaden bridge]

You're moving the goalpost dude

[long bloom]

what does yharon taste like

[leaden bridge]

Fuck you

[woeful karma]

what yall know about gloomborf

[long bloom]

gloomborf 👍

[split mortar]

Probably evil

[leaden bridge]

Gloomborf was literally chill as fuck

[icy veldt]

Alright I've thought of something: the necromancers' ritual that brought back Agnus as the Ravager also altered the god's aspect from (Self-)Sacrifice to Blood. Personally I'd think that the concept of Self-Sacrifice isn't really that related to Blood, in the way that Flame is related to Ashes or Storms are related to Electricity, but it makes more sense in the context of Agnus because he sacrificed parts of himself to heal his faithful followers when they needed it

This implies that the ritual that was conducted (in theory) would alter the god's aspect depending on traits of that god outside of just the aspect alone. Given earlier discussions about how souls become attuned to each other (by having similar "melodies" or "songs", to explain it figuratively) I think it's reasonably likely that the whole song has some effect on how the ritual alters the revived god's aspect

Now what I'm wondering is how it would work for other gods, for example if necromancers wanted more Sea Prisms to be grown, and they used the same ritual (how they would discover that ritual isn't relevant, so let's say that they know it because they just do) to revive Otonilou, what would be the new aspect to replace Electricity? Could it even stay the same?

All of those details are from memory, so I could've gotten some things wrong

[glacial wolf]

Who is the Blood God that several items reference

Is it just ravager

Is he the blood god

[woeful karma]

yeah

[glacial wolf]

Lol

Kinda anticlimactic

😭 wa

Was expecting like
Satan or something satan adjacent

Nah its just ravager a very forgettable optional bossfight with golem AI

[woeful karma]

as opposed to all of calamity's memorable boss fights with unique ai

[young socket]

im not sure what you expected all the god of blood items are explicitly ravager related

[icy veldt]

Funny how the literal God of Blood isn't the god in Calamity that resembles Khorne the most

[glacial wolf]

I was expecting him to be like a construct BY the blood god

Or some cultists

[woeful karma]

i mean

[young socket]

ravager isnt a construct its a necromanced being

[woeful karma]

thats correct

they were just cultists of him

[glacial wolf]

Considering he is around Golem tier and every golem tier boss is a construct or just not naturally created

Duke doesnt count he can be fought at any time

[young socket]

eol? duke fishron? cultist? deus?

[glacial wolf]

Most fight EOL right before Golem

[young socket]

most dont do that

[glacial wolf]

Duke is easily beatable before golem

[woeful karma]

ermmm deus isnt golem tier its post-cultist pre-moon lord obv

[glacial wolf]

Ok cultists is like the only true exception to it ig

Anyways my point be is ravager is genuinely a awful fight

[young socket]

as opposed to any other fight in calamity

[cosmic zenith]

Gloomborf will never be real

[woeful karma]

only a monthish until calamity recieves its first good boss

[young socket]

two

[split mortar]

Ravager concept art and this guy be planned to be put post providence btw

[glacial wolf]

Oh right
Ong this fits a Blood God, even if he is fabricated

Also more post Providence content? Sweet

I feel like post prov goes too fast rnow

[split mortar]

Prolly cause post ml content is like 90% fight boss

[glacial wolf]

Cus you jump from prov straight to sentinels to dog

[glacial wolf]

True.

[frozen zodiac]

many legs...

[cosmic zenith]

"Godseeker Knight! Ravager, throw it back!"
The Ravager in question:

[split mortar]

Which calamity aims to reduce this by adding the distortion subworld in 32 fargillion years

[cosmic zenith]

The kyphosis goes crazy

[glacial wolf]

Also do you still have to fight sentinels in dog fight if u didn't fight them prior

I forgor

[split mortar]

No dont think so

[glacial wolf]

I found that so cool

[frozen zodiac]

calamity ganon...

[split mortar]

That would be odd since they arent really allat related to dog let alone subservient to it

[glacial wolf]

Arent they litteraly his servants or smthn

[split mortar]

No

Old outdated lore

[glacial wolf]

What even are they then 😭
Random

Filler boss no3

[young socket]

"new" lore 3rd year anniversary in a month and 3 days btw

[young socket]

theyre all related to the distortion

[glacial wolf]

Ima be honest ive been more focused on other things since 2021

[split mortar]

Ceaseless is a door with magic turrets attached to it

DoG is afraid of weaver for some reason

Signus is like the closest thing to satan and similar to noxus

[young socket]

3 years ago was 2023

[split mortar]

That proves their point

[glacial wolf]

Since 2021.

2 years before new lore.

[raven brook]

Ravager lore is literally the coolest shit ever its so much better than him just being a construct

I LOVE YOU AGNUS

RAHHH

[glacial wolf]

Ima be honest him being a random construct w no lore relevance was stupid

[split mortar]

Agnus the god of (self) sacrifice is the god that got turned into ravager

[glacial wolf]

its A BLOOD GOD.
Its supposed to be very lore related that's the entire point of blood gods

[raven brook]

Ravager is literally minos

[split mortar]

How so

[raven brook]

i think the point of blood gods is to be the gods of blood actually

[glacial wolf]

Who would Sisyphus be

[split mortar]

God of war
-# idk we dont know shit of war beyond it stabbed yharon iirc

[glacial wolf]

Sisyphus wasnt a backstabber he was just a greedy jerk

A really clever one

[eager bluff]

yeah you dont have to be a backstabber to stab yharon

[raven brook]

• Benevolent ruler who was beloved by his people, an incredibly selfless and altruistic individual
• Killed by the hands of a unjust, self-righteous prick, and even in his dying moments, he sacrificed himself for his people
• Forced to be reborn as a mindless behemoth who was nothing but a husk of his former self, being able to do nothing but lash out in anger

[split mortar]

Where was it said god of war was a backstabber

[glacial wolf]

Which made him a real thorn in everyone's side

[raven brook]

Agnus is literally Minos and i love him for it

[split mortar]

I see

Agnus prime addon when

[raven brook]

Unironically

id kill for that

[glacial wolf]

Typo just meant stabbing in general lmao

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[split mortar]

Go on then
Kill someone

[simple tangle]

can ravager become green again

[glacial wolf]

Sisyphus wasnt a fighter he was just a power hungry jerk with the wits to match it making him both greedy AND a nuisance

[eager bluff]

didnt sisyphus like actively kill people

[split mortar]

I meant to delete the kill someone part oops

[raven brook]

yeah he did

[glacial wolf]

Yeah all kings do but not himself

[eager bluff]

no he

he stabbed people himself

[raven brook]

im pretty sure we're talking about ultrakill sisyphus

given that i was talking about ultrakill minos

[eager bluff]

even in the original myths sisyphus still killed people

[split mortar]

Agnus vs Minos

[simple tangle]

ultrakill sisyphus was still kind of an asshole

[eager bluff]

ultrakill sisyphus literally waged war on heaven

[simple tangle]

he kindve just sent an army to die for fun

[glacial wolf]

Last i recall ULTRAKILL Sisyphus was a greedy asshole who just manipulated people into doing everything for him

[eager bluff]

no

he actively killed people

[glacial wolf]

AFTER he was forced into hell

[eager bluff]

yeah

he

still waged war on heaven

[simple tangle]

fwiw "he went to hell" doesnt rly count as a measurement of morality

[eager bluff]

the timeline is not the part that matters here what matters is that he did it

[glacial wolf]

He sorta lost his kingdom and was forced into a corner of
"Fight heaven"
"Give up"

[eager bluff]

also

[split mortar]

Sisyphus prime vs yharim
Golden fuck vs golden fuck

[eager bluff]

his dialogue in game

[raven brook]

He would've lost either way so he'd rather lose f ighting

That's like ultrakill sisyphus's whole t hing

[simple tangle]

by all means he was doing pretty well as one of the stronger souls

[raven brook]

I wouldn't say he sent a army to die for fun

They woulda died either way, atleast might die in a bang

[eager bluff]

"the kingdom of heaven has long since forgotten my name and I am eager to make them remember"

[glacial wolf]

Sisyphus only started fighting AFTER he went to hell if i recall because he finally got absolutely shredded

[simple tangle]

he got cooked by gabriel lol

[glacial wolf]

Actually gabriel only won due to a sneak attack

[raven brook]

Source

it came to me in a dream

[glacial wolf]

I think its on the wiki

[raven brook]

to both of these statements

[eager bluff]

so what you're saying is that he is still a fighter

[simple tangle]

p sure all we know is he got decapitated by gabriel

[raven brook]

yep

[simple tangle]

and the army without him immediately lost

[glacial wolf]

Well yeah but mostly out of desperation

[simple tangle]

because they lost

all morale

and direction

[raven brook]

I highly doubt it was just out of desperation like are we talking about the same character

sisyphus "FUCK IT WE BALL" ultrakill

[eager bluff]

there is no desperation in his character he is not and was not a desperate man

[simple tangle]

he probably simply lost the fight lol

[raven brook]

minos is the one that you can argue fights out of desperation

john war fights because he wants to

[simple tangle]

sisyphus was prolly having the time of his life against gabe

[raven brook]

oh yeah he definitely was

[eager bluff]

sisyphus went to hell, fought heaven because he hated them, lost, got imprisoned, and almost showed back up for seconds but v1 killed him first

[simple tangle]

i forgot why did he decide to fight v1

[raven brook]

because he felt like it

[simple tangle]

is he stupid?

[eager bluff]

he thought you would be a good warmup

[glacial wolf]

Also are we forgetting that Sisyphus is in wrath not violence

[split mortar]

Why the shit not

[simple tangle]

he was trapped in heresy

not wrath

hes from greed

[glacial wolf]

Oh yeah sorry

[simple tangle]

he doesnt have any connection to wrath afaia

[glacial wolf]

I get the two mixed up somehow in my head

[eager bluff]

minos is in gluttony and i dont think hes particularly greedy or hungry

[simple tangle]

minos is so real

[raven brook]

Minos is my favorite ultrakill character so no wonder i like Agnus so much

He's probably my 4th or 5th favorite cal character

Xeroc and him switch around alot

[split mortar]

Where is the roaring knight on this list

[raven brook]

meaningless

[glacial wolf]

Also

[split mortar]

Meanie

[glacial wolf]

Does the existence of the Murasama imply Metal Gear exists in the Calamity universe as a fictional story, or at minimum jetstream sam

[simple tangle]

my top 5 list would be cal/permafrost (i constantly switch em around in 1st and 2nd), draedon, xeroc and the storm weaver

no

[split mortar]

Did god of war look like a hydra dragon thing before perferatored

[eager bluff]

no its noncanon

[glacial wolf]

Damn

[eager bluff]

curse of reference item

[split mortar]

Blatant Reference stuff is generally not canon

[simple tangle]

at most u could say its a sword draedon made for yharims army

[eager bluff]

if the item is just copy pasted from another game/media its not canon and if its dedicated content its also not canon

[raven brook]

1. 
2. Storm Weaver
3. Sigma i mean Signus
4. Xeroc or Agnus depending on my mood
5. Xeroc or Agnus depending on my mood

[simple tangle]

storm weaver!!!!1

[split mortar]

Narcissist

[simple tangle]

storm weaver is the goat

[raven brook]

weaver my beloved

[raven brook]

[simple tangle]

casually is just cooler than dog

[split mortar]

Narcissist

Cheese say your weaver theory to the unenlightened

[glacial wolf]

1. 
2. Xeroc (both old and new iterations held/hold this spot)
3. Yharon
4. (can i pet dat) D.O.G.

[raven brook]

Storm weaver my son

[simple tangle]

weaver is a free being unlike dog who is a noxus goon

[raven brook]

He's probably a DoG prototype and also DoG is a bitch baby who's scared of him

[split mortar]

Weaver also makes dog afraid for some reason :p

[simple tangle]

weaver freedom motif

[glacial wolf]

DoG is a coward anyways

[raven brook]

I have a Theory ™ on weaver which boils down to basically

[split mortar]

A dev has said weaver fits this the most of any cal character iirc

[raven brook]

Weaver likely has old lore DoG's essence-absorption powers

[glacial wolf]

If he actually knew what we did prior he wouldve just ran

[raven brook]

And the reason DoG is so afraid of it is

[split mortar]

Dog likely knows of em and just thinks
Nah id win

[simple tangle]

dog is a fraud

[split mortar]

Or well would think that if they knew

[raven brook]

Weaver is the biggest threat to Noxus's Plan ™ atm

[simple tangle]

no named kills

[glacial wolf]

Whatever that is

[split mortar]

Eat the divine

[simple tangle]

actually fraudulent

[raven brook]

Because Weaver is very likely to be able to absorb essence based on some info ingame

[glacial wolf]

Its probably "absorb all life" or some abyss level shit

[raven brook]

However

Since he's broken off from Noxus

the essence d osen't go to Noxus

whcih is

pretty bad

[simple tangle]

it goes to WEAVER

[raven brook]

given his entire plan is Absorb Essence for ???

[glacial wolf]

If he eats yharim we are kinda screwed Ong

[raven brook]

If weaver gets to all the good stuff before DoG that's like Oh Oops that's Bad

[simple tangle]

new future boss ASCENDED STORM WEAVER!!!!

[raven brook]

And additonally

[split mortar]

Weaver eats providence and yharon
Becomes embers providence but weaver

[raven brook]

Weaver has electric powers

he lives in the sky

[glacial wolf]

Draconic Storm Weaver

[raven brook]

If we go off the idea that he has essence absorption

Well

[glacial wolf]

He can cast fake suns

Like a Hallow purple

[simple tangle]

no way my guy storm weaver ate uh
whats her name

[split mortar]

Eol?

[raven brook]

Who else lived in the sky?
Who likely has his essence all over the sky?
Vetrasyl

yk

Dragon of Storms

[simple tangle]

nono the goddess of electricity WAIT UR SO RIGHT

[raven brook]

Not really

Yharim isn't a god

or a dragon

[glacial wolf]

My idea here is electricity+fire= tiny fake sun

[raven brook]

or anaything

he wouldn't give off anyhting

[glacial wolf]

Oh

Yeah good point

[simple tangle]

where does yharon go after u kill him?

[raven brook]

dragon aerie

[glacial wolf]

Yharon*
If he eats yharon we are donezo

[zenith geode]

egg in the aerie

[eager bluff]

at most it says oh ooooo look noxus is stronger than yharim but we already knew that

[simple tangle]

ohhh ok

[eager bluff]

not really

[split mortar]

Yharons soul a teleporting BITCH

[simple tangle]

dog prolly ate some like nothing deities tbh

[eager bluff]

we dont know what noxus does with the souls but even if it got its hands(?) on yharons soul it realistically wouldnt be a massive jump in power

[split mortar]

Dog ate all god essence once the guy joined

[zenith geode]

the god of thursday night football

[glacial wolf]

Also i just realised that the Hytale player is immune to radiation

They can wear armor made of active thorium

[split mortar]

Cant belive they turned the hit indie game thorium into an armour set

[simple tangle]

new hc dog is just yharims god disposal bin

[eager bluff]

noxus is strong enough just at a base that each individual soul doesnt matter all that much

i mean yes

[raven brook]

DoG is homelandr

[eager bluff]

that is actively what dog is

[raven brook]

like actually he is LITERALLY homelander

His personality is Homelander

[glacial wolf]

Nah atleast dog can kill some normal mortals

[split mortar]

This is sorta literally the case

[simple tangle]

I AM BETTER.

[glacial wolf]

Homeander just gets bullied by everyone

[eager bluff]

yharim keeps dog around because dog gets rid of god essence if dog didnt do that yharim would probably never have fucked around with him

[raven brook]

Comically powerful individual who's a huge narcissistic prick who's horrifying ffor anyone weaker than him due to how you can't really predict what he's gonna do at any moment, specially since he dosen't have any need to fear the consequences of his actions

HOWEVER

[split mortar]

Dog could deal with the essence permanently while even wof was just a temporary solution
Once dog joined they would be where slain gods essence would go iirc

[raven brook]

The MOMENT someone stronger than him shows up

as few as those are

It exposes how much of a pathethic individual he is

DoG is stronger than 99% of the world but that 1% makes him the most pathethic worm ever

[glacial wolf]

He has an ego

[zenith geode]

his job title is wasteman

[eager bluff]

he has an ego that can be shattered by hitting him hard enough

[raven brook]

pretty much

[simple tangle]

lend me power noxus....this is base wyvern we're up against...

[eager bluff]

its like if you could make mike tyson question his entire existence because you hit him slightly more forcefully than a toddler

[glacial wolf]

Also imagine how crazy it must be for yharim's subjects to hear that DOG died, Yharon lost, and Calamitas also lost, all to the same random mortal

[dusk laurel]

he doesnt have subjects anymore really unless you mean his army

[glacial wolf]

Yeah

I meant his army

They must be scared shitless rnow

[eager bluff]

and also you would be world news even before that considering you killed the thing thats the reason the world is so fucked up right now and also one of if not the single most malevolent gods in existence

[zenith geode]

tbf none of them come close to calamitas so yeah they'd probably just give up immediately

[glacial wolf]

Maybe thats why yharim instantly jumped to a 1v1

[simple tangle]

skeletron prime in my low% run looking at some bum beating yharon in a fight

[split mortar]

The orphan barbecue machine is not mentally sane

[zenith geode]

giving prime sanity for a few minutes just to watch it mentally break

[glacial wolf]

No prep time
No army to weaken him
No backups to win
Just a spontaneous 1v1

[eager bluff]

killing eoc is generally already enough to make the local news killing wof is a continent altering feat and would be noticed by probably a lot more than just the heartlands

[simple tangle]

lantern nights

[zenith geode]

killing a higher end god like prov would immediately make world news 100%

[glacial wolf]

Also is Terraria literally just Earth itself

[split mortar]

I dont think yharim would want to use the army

[split mortar]

The planet yeah

[eager bluff]

moon lord

[split mortar]

The name of da planet

[zenith geode]

oh yeah ml too

[simple tangle]

does the regular person even know abt moon lord

[eager bluff]

probably yeah

[zenith geode]

maybe?

it was a long ass time ago

[split mortar]

Maybe? The apocalypse having only happened not even a millenia ago would probably be known if you go looking not long in history books

[zenith geode]

so unless they teach about the invasion in schools i dont think the everyman would know

[eager bluff]

it was a long ass time ago but it was also a massively world altering event

[raven brook]

I'd say probably not much

[simple tangle]

i dont know if the gods would have purposefully obfuscated knowledge about him and the dragons yk

[raven brook]

Like they might know a bit of it but not that much

[raven brook]

Eh it just wouldn't work like that

Any statement that talks about this sort of thing with "The gods" is automatically often just unviable

Because of the fact gods didn't really work as a collective

[simple tangle]

thats fair

[eager bluff]

most of them would probably know it as "the thing that killed the dragons" and not anything further than that

[zenith geode]

like they might now that a 'fovos' came down and killed a ton of dragons but probably wouldnt know that it removed yharon's revive all dragons command

[split mortar]

“Oh then a flying cosmic mountain who is beyond anything to have ever graced this planet came and ended the strongest civilisation then vanished”

[simple tangle]

hes on the moon btw

[raven brook]

I feel like it would be the sort of thing people would know about if they studied on it but like

[eager bluff]

kind of in the same way we know the meteor that killed the dinosaurs as... the meteor that killed the dinosaurs

[raven brook]

only vaguely

[simple tangle]

physically

[raven brook]

P much yeah

[simple tangle]

did draedon ever attempt to get to the moon only to have his ships or whatever immediately attacked by fovos
his codebreaker dialogue implies he was previously unable to do so for one reason or another

[eager bluff]

he was first activated a couple hundred years after ml invaded iirc

[split mortar]

Probably aware what was on the moon was not to be touched at risk of ending the fucking world

Because no one knew if moonlord healed back to its prime or not

[simple tangle]

i mean like, during the time he was active and fovos was still imprisoned

[split mortar]

The mere knowledge of fovos is probably enough to keep draedon away

[eager bluff]

yeah if i had to guess he knew ml was there and decided "its not worth risking that thing having gotten even stronger than it initially was"

[split mortar]

Draedon does not know xeroc exists and so as far as draedon knows prime moonlord is the strongest thing to have ever existed

[eager bluff]

that kind of risk is something even he has to take into account he cant risk it having gotten honestly even to the same power level as it was when it invaded

[simple tangle]

no one bar dog and maybe xeroc knows abt noxus right

[eager bluff]

because if that happens he cant take care of it himself

[eager bluff]

storm weaver and signus directly know and yharim has worked out that theres something controlling dog

[simple tangle]

sentinels prolly know
uhh braelor might know? thats a pure conjecture though

[zenith geode]

i forget storm weaver isnt sapient right

[split mortar]

Yeah ceaseless void mere existence gives yharim the heeby jeebies

[split mortar]

:idk:

[simple tangle]

he should be cuz itd be cool

[eager bluff]

braelor i think knows theres some higher being in the distortion but i dont think he knows much more than that

[split mortar]

We dunno what braelor be doin there

[simple tangle]

doom shit

[split mortar]

Could just be farming rocks to eat for the past couple months for all we know

[eager bluff]

knowing much more than that means hes probably in some form come into contact with noxus which would not be a great sign for his continued existence

[split mortar]

Yeah

True

Noxus or gloomborf who a hungrier

[simple tangle]

gloomborf

[split mortar]

You dont exist

[eager bluff]

gloomborf

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[simple tangle]

:(

thats mean

[split mortar]

Is it mean to say the truth

[glacial wolf]

also whats the full reason for the moonlord being killed in the first place

again

for the second time

[simple tangle]

thats for u to decide

[glacial wolf]

i figure he was just a byproduct of us cleaning up yharim's mess

cus like we destroyed the cult leader in his (yharim's) dungeon which resulted in the pillars apearing which were somehow tied to moonlord OR he noticed us destroy and decided to come investigate

[split mortar]

Pillars help moonlord

[glacial wolf]

yeah ok so then it was him getin pissed we destroyed them

[split mortar]

And any terrarian stuff is

[split mortar]

Or like just coming for round 2

[glacial wolf]

its just a coincidence

he was expecting yharon to finally rematch em but was met by some random human

Who then beat the shit out of him

[split mortar]

While still stronger than 99.99% of things on the planet despite missing like 70% of their body

[split mortar]

I imagine the thing freeing it then killing its minecraft enemy spawners would get its attention

[vestal badge]

is this what calamity's moonlord looked like https://youtu.be/KlL2TZhuWsw?si=b2xYzYXU0znk0VV7

[split mortar]

Calamity moonlord looks like vanilla moonlord

[vestal badge]

nno ...

[limpid saddle]

i mean yeah it's moonlord

it's the same guy

[vestal badge]

i mean full-power

[young socket]

oh its

its that guy

oh

[vestal badge]

that guy?

forgotten evils

[limpid saddle]

yeah it's moonlord with legs

thats it

[split mortar]

Prolly like moonlord but not cut in half with organs missing

Also the guys called moonlord cause they got put there not due to having control of it iirc

[limpid saddle]

thats moonlord full power

[zenith geode]

the guy with an ego the size of jupiter and also transphobic just for good measure

[young socket]

its like a whole thing

[limpid saddle]

organs do alot for you weirdly

[zenith geode]

he truly believes that his boss design is better than anything else in tmod

[split mortar]

And having
The lower 2 thirds of your body

[limpid saddle]

cough cough

melon gun media literacy is truly dead...

[split mortar]

No i read that

Proceeded to say anyways

[simple tangle]

i would call them...kind of inventive but not rly good
theyre like, very middle school-y

[limpid saddle]

melon gun hater levels are truly undead...

[split mortar]

Siffrin

[split mortar]

What does this mean

[limpid saddle]

i am not calling you the name of the in stars & time protagonist

[simple tangle]

what if the jungle temple turned to life and it was the golem and u had to fight giant golem and then u also became giant while sonic frontiers undefeatable played in the background

[zenith geode]

i like the part where he didnt bother thinking and just ported absolute radiance from hollow knight instead of actually making something himself

[vestal badge]

the guy that made that mod in the link?

[split mortar]

I just wanted to say the characters name i wasnt asking that my bad

[limpid saddle]

i mean fair i guess

[zenith geode]

yeah there's a discussion a bit up in other mod talk

[young socket]

yea

[simple tangle]

to be honest i dont think porting like that is inherently bad
conversion is cool imo

[young socket]

he also used to be part of the starbound modding community iirc

[zenith geode]

got chased out for putting fucking anticheat in a mod

fucking anticheat in a mod for a singleplayer game

[split mortar]

Why
Put
Anticheat
In a mod

[simple tangle]

theyre not playing the right way!!

[young socket]

itd be like giving scal an antibutch- OH WAIT !!!!!

[split mortar]

Fabsolian game design

[zenith geode]

ok but this was like 2021 iirc

[raven brook]

hi full power moon lord is moon lord but with weird tentacle legs probably given the moon lord legs item

which is weird tentacle legs

yep

thats it

[vestal badge]

its to show how powerful the bosses became 👀

[zenith geode]

moon lords legs is canon

[vestal badge]

trancending cheat commands

[raven brook]

it is also very stupid

[zenith geode]

drunk world has been canonised thank you

[vestal badge]

yes

[young socket]

moon lord legs is uhh

i dont remember whose art it was

i think it was throus?

[zenith geode]

actually drunk world doesnt really fuckin change much

[vestal badge]

save that for xeroc and full-power moonlord

[simple tangle]

tbh drunk world for me is the "canon" world seed just cuz it has both infections

[vestal badge]

calamitas isnt even that good ...

[young socket]

i think it was throudon who made some really fucking good ml art

[zenith geode]

like the only thing i can think of is like dungeon is under a tree but thats it

[simple tangle]

isnt calamitas like the 5th strongest being in the world

[simple tangle]

the center of the underworld becomes a giant lake

[zenith geode]

ah right

[simple tangle]

which makes the demon conch not work!

[split mortar]

Barely any bosses in calamity arep

[vestal badge]

yyeah but the scale is shifted when you compare her to xeroc and old moonlord

[zenith geode]

there's probably a giant lake somewhere in the underworld

[vestal badge]

wait what was the full power moonlord's name again

[raven brook]

Lower p sure

Uhhh its like

[split mortar]

That not a thing

[zenith geode]

fovos and ml are the same thing

[vestal badge]

yeah fovos

oh

[split mortar]

Fovos can also refer to weakened ml

[zenith geode]

the people that got fucking slaughtered just named it fovos

[raven brook]

1. Xeroc
2. Fovos
3. Terrarian
4. Noxus
5. Yharim
6. Zeratros?
7. Calamitas/Exos

I think..

[zenith geode]

(i forget the name)

[split mortar]

Chrysadia getting nuked frame one

[raven brook]

Fovos and ML aren't names for like different forms of it they're names given to it by different cultures

[simple tangle]

was zeratros much weaker than xeroc?

[vestal badge]

yharim is above terrarian currently though

[split mortar]

God xeroc is by far the strongest thing in calamity
Zeratros is comparable to yharim iirc

[raven brook]

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

ok yeah checked out the rest of the channel oh my slop

[zenith geode]

perfect ascension does that

[limpid saddle]

why is plantera olega flowey

[vestal badge]

isnt zeratros literally just a guy

[zenith geode]

dragon of primordial light

[simple tangle]

where silva

[zenith geode]

(dead)

[split mortar]

Zeratros was the dragon king of the fucking sun

[limpid saddle]

its not even a cool plant its a normal plant what the fuck were they cooking

[split mortar]

Abyss

[raven brook]

just a guy (strongest dragon of all time)

[vestal badge]

ooh no wait thats the dragon name not the guy

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc?

[vestal badge]

nno thats the god

[raven brook]

Under the ones ive listed clearly

[simple tangle]

xeroc used to be a guy

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc was just a guy

[simple tangle]

then transitioned i mean ascended

[split mortar]

Yharim is the “just a guy” but is also the strongest “guy” to touch the planet

[limpid saddle]

thats the thing slime god did

[vestal badge]

does the monk have an official name

[split mortar]

Slimegod genderfluid

[zenith geode]

yeah yharim's pretty much the only just a guy up there

[limpid saddle]

dont get it twisted

[limpid saddle]

yeah xeroc

[vestal badge]

twisted garden 👀

[split mortar]

No
Well
Xeroc is all we got

[vestal badge]

#notcannon

[split mortar]

But they made that name after ascending

iirc

[vestal badge]

mhm

[simple tangle]

deadname....

[limpid saddle]

what if they're on some kingdom hearts shit & his real name is Roce or something

[vestal badge]

Gods don't deserve rights.

[split mortar]

Ok yharim

Chat we found yharim get em

[vestal badge]

What!! they're selfish murderers!! leave me alone!!

[raven brook]

yharim speech bubble

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message
Helpful yhar guide

[split mortar]

True

[limpid saddle]

foolish samurai you fell for the biases that were intended to be deconstructed by the viewer

[split mortar]

Insert yharon speech bubble here

[vestal badge]

loll

[simple tangle]

agnus was prolly so chill

[split mortar]

I mean yeah the guy sacrificed themself for their followers consistently

[vestal badge]

whos anus??

[simple tangle]

ravager before getting reanimated was the god of sacrifice

[split mortar]

#404776393117925376 message

[raven brook]

Agnus my goat 🩷

[simple tangle]

what cal character would u want to hang out w the most

[raven brook]

Agnus single handedly destroying the yharim agenda

[limpid saddle]

calamitas clone

[split mortar]

Uhh

[limpid saddle]

i would be immolated on the spot but i could TRY a therapy session

[split mortar]

Cheese i will stab you if you say calamitas

[simple tangle]

for me its prolly permafrost

[raven brook]

Ok there's a few options

As long as i don't stare into Agnus's third eye he seems like a great guy to hang out with, though it might be a bit boring

Permafrost just seems generally pleasant to hang out with, he's not only nice but also very fun and whimsical

Smoking weed with Xeroc. Dream blunt rotation.

[vestal badge]

i want to know everything about ravager now this rasied more questions

[split mortar]

You are free from being stabbed

[limpid saddle]

ok so yharim killed agnus right

[split mortar]

Ate the death dragon iirc

[vestal badge]

wouldnt that make agnus a biome or somrthing?

[limpid saddle]

his followers didnt like that so they dragged his corpse into a church & sacrificed their souls & flesh to revive him

[vestal badge]

oo

[zenith geode]

however, necromancy is a very flawed art even when perfected

[split mortar]

Ravager concept arts

[limpid saddle]

re-congealing what remained of his godly essence & binding it back with their lust for vengeance Agnus was reborn as the God Of Blood, the Ravager, & if anything more hasnt been changed, laid waste to Yharim's forces that sieged Agnus's territories

[raven brook]

Specifically a group of his followers that had a very poor understanding of his teachings and went a little Crazy ™ from looking at his third eye

[vestal badge]

ravager sprite needs an update for sure

[raven brook]

I fully believe that

[simple tangle]

are calamitas' constructs the best (most perfected) examples of necromancy we have?

[raven brook]

Ressurecing Agnus through Necromancy would actively go against everything he'd want

[raven brook]

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

b'yeah

[raven brook]

They still retain some of their sapience and consciousness

which is more than you can say for anything else

[zenith geode]

theyre still super fucked up though as seen by them not being calamitas or player sized

[raven brook]

Yeah they don't retain alot of their original mind and are still fucked up in terms of their body but atleast they still acnowledge Calamitas as their sister and protect her willingly rather than just destroying everything in sight mindlessly

[simple tangle]

i hope we get more cataclysm catastrophe lore eventually :) and generally calamitas pre joining the crusade

[split mortar]

She was poor

[raven brook]

She was poor

[vestal badge]

THEY'RE SIBLINGS??

[raven brook]

They're

They're called her Brothers

[vestal badge]

ravager is CALAMITAS'S BROTHER??

[split mortar]

She was young and poor and her brothers had to do work to get food on the table like mercenary work and brawling

[zenith geode]

calclone has a little bit of necromancy but as seen in the fight its not very good

[limpid saddle]

No

[simple tangle]

no

[split mortar]

No??

[vestal badge]

Oh

[zenith geode]

catastrophe and cataclysm are

[split mortar]

Catastrophe and cataclysm are

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[limpid saddle]

Catastrophe & Cataclysm are her brothers you fool

[zenith geode]

so sayeth the snail

[split mortar]

Making Null not exist brb

[vestal badge]

im sorry i was

mixing up the two convos

[raven brook]

the strongest devil in all of chainsaw man strikes again

[limpid saddle]

null awakened their inner jjk fan

[vestal badge]

what>

[split mortar]

The literacy rate on the internet is concerningly low and you dipped into those numbers for a moment is the joke

[vestal badge]

i dont like either of those animes whats the reference am i missing something

ohhh

[limpid saddle]

she's doing her best

her constructs are made out of dirt & dead homeless people calamitas herself has the genuine article

[raven brook]

the strongest devil in all of chainsaw man

the reading comprehension devil

[mighty zenith]

the calamity mod lore discussion devil

[woeful karma]

i keep thinking youre han-d

[real silo]

garb-o

[cloud ibex]

gar bow

[thick slate]

goat

[jaunty wraith]

I am tired but cant sleep, why would yharim do this? Did chara force him to do this

[real silo]

Bow made of gar

[agile matrix]

how do i ping moderators

this guy is selling Hyper Liquids

[zenith geode]

staff mail

[pulsar ocean]

why is it only in lore discussion

thats like the 3rd time

[long bloom]

dm the staff mail bot

[agile matrix]

Scary

[hushed jasper]

hi

[sinful adder]

It would be a lot easier to be able to just ping moderators in a channel directly

[thick slate]

yea but all the mods are dead

besides the tr*al mods

[long bloom]

you can but a response is significantly less likely than using the bot

[sinful adder]

Oh I meant the role but yeah I guess

[pulsar ocean]

thatd be a lot of pingx

pings

[sinful adder]

Better yet: a bot role or command you can run in a channel to summon any available moderator

Instead of having to dm mod mail

[agile matrix]

i thought i could just Ping Them to be Honest

[pulsar ocean]

you can

pretty sure

[agile matrix]

the ping doesnt autocorrect

i dont Think i can

[long bloom]

you can ping individual mods but again, they might not respond

even if green circle

[raven brook]

alternatively you can just dm mod mail it takes like 1 click

[cloud ibex]

could even have some kind of bot you could message that does an @ here in the mod channels so anyone online will see it

[raven brook]

truly

William Afton Falling agrees with this statement

[cloud ibex]

imagine if we had that

[real silo]

Does William Afton Falling agree with universal healthcare

[pulsar ocean]

Is that the guy from the movie

[raven brook]

Yes

[raven brook]

Yes and he's Falling

[real silo]

I knew it thas why Willing Afton Falling da goat

[pulsar ocean]

what does William afton falling think about the ai bubble

[feral skiff]

isn’t he the guy behind the pizza animatronic family restaurant

so afton literally just Wouldn’t Care

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-2-five-nights-at-freddy's-2-william-afton-falling-gif-gif-7352928645036651085

i will never get over this

multi million dollar horror franchise

[wheat walrus]

finite spaghetti

[raven brook]

i couldnt stop laughing

when i saw william afton falling in the movie

[wheat walrus]

y is bro doin at

[split mortar]

What

[mighty zenith]

william afton falling

this scene has more screen time than withered bonnie

[split mortar]

What

[wheat walrus]

[raven brook]

the more you look at it the more obvious it beconmes hes literally just standing

he's just standing and raising his legs

[split mortar]

Omfg true

[mighty zenith]

he also looks like he knows he's falling in slow motion

which is how everyone falls as you know

[split mortar]

Did they just
Change the zoom fov settings on the camera for this scene

[mighty zenith]

40 million dollar budget

[split mortar]

Hatless Siffrin what image

[thick slate]

theres a clip from the new fallout episode that looks exactly like this

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[spice pawn]

Why does Cnidron drop Amidas' spark?

[noble falcon]

It’s his favorite fidget toy

[raven brook]

maybe Cnidrion was his royal steed or something

alternatively theres no real relation and its just drops not having much thought put into it

[spring fog]

this william afton scene wasn't that bad until this part

[thick slate]

honestly best scene of the movir

[reef wigeon]

What combat style would Xeroc use with PL

[thick slate]

his bald monk ass would be a martial artist

[reef wigeon]

Yeah but

What exactly would the PL do in that case

[thick slate]

spotlight

aura farm

[mighty zenith]

it was pretty cool yeah but like why did they make it look like that

[reef wigeon]

What are the Elementals?

Solar fragments count as PL Essences?

[long bloom]

physical manifestations of the elements

[long bloom]

they're made of primordial light somehow, wouldn't exactly say essence though

[reef wigeon]

How exactly is Silva both an elemental and a god?

[long bloom]

elemental that absorbed an auric soul

just like a person would

she still had a physical body back then

[reef wigeon]

Is Anahita an elemental?

[long bloom]

yes

[reef wigeon]

If Xeroc makes the bossrush bosses with PL, couldn't he replicate their powers with PL Magic or smt?

[long bloom]

what powers specifically

[simple tangle]

this movie was so good

[agile matrix]

last i Checked, the bosses he Makes in the Boss Rush are like Really Really Good Copies of them Made of Primordial Light

[simple tangle]

"im michael"
"michael afton"

[reef wigeon]

Profane flames of Providence or the exo plague (although it's not really a power)

[long bloom]

uhhhh
no not really

[agile matrix]

i mean thats just Really Hot Fire or Some Atoms Doing Shit if you boil it down

you could make a reasonably similar copy

[long bloom]

also primordial light is a billion times stronger than those anyway

so why

[reef wigeon]

Because it looks cool

[agile matrix]

for COmbat Reasons

[reef wigeon]

Why can't he just uhh
Create Providence flames Gloves with primordial Light

[mighty zenith]

why would he

what purpose would they have to him

[reef wigeon]

No purpose

Just

Looks cool

[mighty zenith]

[reef wigeon]

In fact, everything Xeroc does is because it looks cool

(clearly a joke)

Xeroc can use PL Magic for uhh

Weather Report everything?

[mighty zenith]

frog rain

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

Something like that

[mighty zenith]

idk maybe

[reef wigeon]

I'm only asking because

I don't know how strong is PL

And most don't either probably

[long bloom]

strong enough to nuke yharim out of existence if they wanted

something something unmatched power of the sun

[agile matrix]

okay but can it make a Good Sandwich

[modest elk]

is the ashen piano too hot to sit on?

[agile matrix]

its probably fine

[modest elk]

but its impossible to sit on

[agile matrix]

Hence

[reef wigeon]

How versatile is it?