lore-discussion

[raven brook]

It simply is

universal constant

[strong quail]

Alan Wake wrote it into our reality

[mighty zenith]

primordial terrarian

[split mortar]

Didnt zarachard form it

[strong quail]

shhhhh

[green sleet]

my terrarian is king sized

what about you

[strong quail]

my terrarian is terrarian sized

[green sleet]

so king sized

[strong quail]

idk how they can be any bigger

[green sleet]

take my life alloy

[strong quail]

I hate this image

[green sleet]

LOL

[strong quail]

I just saw it and I already hate it

[bitter cave]

I love this image

[raven brook]

sans

[bitter cave]

Its so peam

[strong quail]

sand under table

[raven brook]

my boy agnus what have they done to you

[bitter cave]

Sands underpants

[raven brook]

🥹

[strong quail]

I still have bad taste in my mouth from experience with the community

[green sleet]

when mom brings home the life alloy

[bitter cave]

What the fuck is that dog

[green sleet]

yharym

🎅

[strong quail]

photoshopped to utter disgrace

[bitter cave]

This is too uncanny

[strong quail]

at least I hope it's photoshop and not genAI

[bitter cave]

[green sleet]

i need to buy photoshop and make some peao

[strong quail]

why buy when you can

get free alternatives

[bitter cave]

Pirating adobe products is morally correct

[green sleet]

i dont even know where to begin for pirating shit lol

[strong quail]

oops

[green sleet]

what is that

[strong quail]

that's against the rules pal

go look for things yourself

[green sleet]

the thing you just edited away i assume was

[strong quail]

we can teach you how to crawl, you have to learn how to walk yourself

[green sleet]

balright

[strong quail]

I'd still recommend some actually free alternative like gimp or, hell, even paint.NET

[mighty zenith]

gimp is pretty decent

i use it personally

[strong quail]

I use paintnet for all my needs

not the best tool but I my needs don't require the best

[random mulch]

gimp is a nice program, use it a lot for making charts and i even used to draw with it

though i recommend trying to get your hands on one of the 2. versions

[feral skiff]

isn’t gimp 3 better?

[random mulch]

tried it, found it awkward

maybe i'm just more used to the version before that but eh

[fleet wedge]

What about paint tool sai

Or ibis paint

[strong quail]

sai is paid

ibis is ass and mobile-only

[errant swallow]

are fallen stars actual stars

[split mortar]

Yeah P sure

[real silo]

stars in cal just aren't giant giga fireballs 583 gorillion kilometers away from the planet

[austere eagle]

Is there a lore reason the astral infection does not spread?

[split mortar]

Mana shrinks so if anything it should do the opposite iirc

[dusk laurel]

specifically coalesces back together

[reef wigeon]

You can download it on PC

[strong quail]

Well that only fixes the latter

[normal mantle]

What’s the primordial worms name?

[agile matrix]

jared

[normal mantle]

Wonderful

[agile matrix]

or just the primordial worm

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/the-meal-bruhmoment-robustar-funny-gif-20116727

[split mortar]

What the fucking shrek goo is that

[cloud ibex]

the meal

[reef wigeon]

What are the abilities of primordial light? I mean, what can Xeroc do with it?

[sacred pilot]

Skin cancer.

[split mortar]

What we know pl can do is create bossrush (so replicate normal mana abilities and stuff?) and teleportation probably via becoming pl temporarily and just going at the speed of light
And whatever solar fragments do thats also PL

just very potent magic sunlight with not much definition on what it can or cant do rn

Xeroc is the one who makes bossrush and uses pl to do so btw

[reef wigeon]

Draedon must investigate that at some point

[light linden]

hey stip can I ask a question?

[cosmic zenith]

Sure

[light linden]

is yharim the first of his kind?

actually wait that's vague

[split mortar]

Draedons likely to do so since long range wireless teleportation is probably possible with it and thats the guys next goal iirc

[light linden]

is he the first one to try and kill gods in service to a dragon?

I find it odd that he's seemingly the first one

[reef wigeon]

I had never thought about that

[split mortar]

I doubt figuring out thats possible would be the hard thing for draedon i mean its already sorta doable with rod of discord but short
Whats prob gonna be the hard part might be the making it efficient enough to not drain the sun dry if you teleport a cosmic distance if it uses pl as well to do so

[agile matrix]

he’s the first by ridicule
you could right now be the first to pour a cold beer on sixteen and a half gatorade caps and you would, infact, be the first

no one else probably wanted to because Why Would You Do That

[cosmic zenith]

Probably not

He's just the most successful

[agile matrix]

? why would people do that

[eager bluff]

same reason yharim did

[dusk laurel]

what if you just really hate that guy

[eager bluff]

they were wronged by the gods and decided to kill them all

[agile matrix]

yharim was put to death because he didnt want to absorb an auric soul

[dusk laurel]

people kill each other all the time for various reasons

[eager bluff]

and immediately failed because they are not that guy

[agile matrix]

i dont think most fall into that issue of this

[eager bluff]

yeah thats

i dont mean exactly the same sequence of events as yharim 😭

[agile matrix]

well yea lol

but i dont think people did it because a dragon told them, i think they did it while also wanting to do it themselves

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, specifically in service to a Dragon would be more uncommon than in general

But there would probably be people still loyal or allied with the Dragons

[reef wigeon]

What exactly is EoL? Is she a creation of the blessing?

[split mortar]

She is a creature who works under some unnamed god/gods which lets her control pl during the day iirc

[long bloom]

pl stands for primordial light

which is basically sunlight

and the domain of xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah but xeroc does fuck all on the planet so what granted her the power

[ornate shadow]

I take it that you like the image my friend drew

[latent bolt]

how powerful would Permafrost be as a fight, if he was to be fought at the height of his power

[split mortar]

permafrost is a noncombatent so i cant see surpasing like golem or pbg

[ornate shadow]

Permafrost in fargos:

[split mortar]

Thats still pre calclone

[ornate shadow]

Yeah ik

But I mean

He DID just break out of his prison and hasn’t fought for who knows how long

[agile matrix]

id tier him as stronger than lunatic cultist but weaker than moonlord? personally

[feral skiff]

why hasn’t draedon colonised space if he has advanced technologies

[pulsar ocean]

whyd he do that

[feral skiff]

he be spending 75% of his budget on aura-farming and military death exo robots 😭

[feral skiff]

more resources in space

[pulsar ocean]

there are no auric dragons or yhar har har or terrarian in space

[cloud ibex]

astral infection

and also because there's still more to research on terraria yes

[noble falcon]

Bruh easy, just bring a terraformer to clean it up
I’m sure he could make some kinda super efficient exo-clentaminator

[long bloom]

he wants to study it

[cloud ibex]

not one that works in space

[long bloom]

not eradicate it

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt astral infection shrink in game

[dusk laurel]

it takes too long

[pulsar ocean]

why does astrum deus have an altar

[long bloom]

narcissism

[eager bluff]

aura

[reef wigeon]

He explicitly said that when there's nothing left to find in Terraria, he needs to find a way to leave the planet or smt

So he wants to leave the planet but there's still a lot to learn

[raven brook]

People misunderstand Draedon
Resources aren't his end, they're his means. His goal is ultimately to research and attain knowledge, sure you see him make the deathmurder robots 3000 ingame but that's not the only thing he does, he's a researcher of all fields. I mean, he literally wants to see you kill yharim to study the social impact of such event

[modest elk]

why do Azafure’s dead residents hate me rebuilding their bridge

I didnt make the witch do it

[split mortar]

Necromancied people just kinda attack
Why do zombies and skeletons or ravager fight you
Same reason

[simple tangle]

thinking abt the metastasis tooltip....its so peak

[agile matrix]

he mentions that if the Plague starts to affect the jungle Realistically, he will immediately kill it

he also mentions that he wants to obliterate Astral Infection, and also holds interest in the Aerie

(like, outside of "Yharim is there"

[simple tangle]

damn you have an image for that

[eager bluff]

yes

[raven brook]

There used to be a notorious influx of people taking the tooltip literally in this caht in the past

I wasn't here for it. It's before my time.

[agile matrix]

i mean itd be funny if we took the armor of that guy and made it into a Kite

[simple tangle]

guys u dont get it the sepulcher is LITERALLY dog in the future trust

dog kite when we need more modded kites

[fleet wedge]

Okay but what metaphor are we talking about

[raven brook]

dog kite i can see happening

[simple tangle]

the metaphor is if ur greedy like dog u become the sepulcher

[eager bluff]

i was here for it i saw the old magic rewritten and changed into the new magic

[fleet wedge]

Any others?

[agile matrix]

DoG is like

Dead.

[raven brook]

the metaphor of "calamitas would probably fucking kill devourer at some point if you didnt do it yourself" being read as "sepulcher is literally what dog would become if it ate too much"

[simple tangle]

and u grow limbs

[agile matrix]

he's Not Alive

we Killed Him

Draedon reveals that since we killed him, we might now never know where things that went in his face hole go now

[raven brook]

I don't think anyone was saying hes alive

[eager bluff]

yeah we we know hes dead

[agile matrix]

for Living things to have a future, they often need to be Alive

[eager bluff]

not when said future is sepulcher

[simple tangle]

fwiw i am jokign

[agile matrix]

hmm

no

i think you're literal

[simple tangle]

i do not seriously believe dog becomes the sepulcher from supreme calamitas

[agile matrix]

hmmm no i think you think that

[eager bluff]

being alive and also being dead is kind of just a suggestion around scal

[simple tangle]

ur right.......i do believe that.....

calamitas reanimated dog and have him arms for some reason

[raven brook]

And he also has a skeleton made of red human bones

as you do

[simple tangle]

naturally

[young socket]

its true

[eager bluff]

yeah you know this is just dog see it has the mandibles

[raven brook]

yep

[rancid orchid]

the sepulcher is actually yharon's child that he layed the egg of because its bestiary entry acknowledges that he exists kind of which means they're directly related

[simple tangle]

its like yharim talking about how storm weaver is obviously the same species

[raven brook]

I mean to be fair

They are superficially somewhat similar i think it's more justified to confuse that relation than sepulcher being dog

😭

[simple tangle]

ye ik

[eager bluff]

hmm

clearly

this means storm weaver is sepulcher

[simple tangle]

ourple worm from fuckass dimension must be the same specie!

[raven brook]

Truee.

[simple tangle]

it is funny how he says it so confidently tho

[raven brook]

Weaver is probably a prototype DoG anyways so i guess yharim is not like

ENTIRELY wrong.

I mean

• Older than DoG
• Superficially similar appearance
• Was a part of Noxus's hivemind/allegiance at some point, but broke free
• DoG is really scared of it and wants to kill it Now for some reason

Yharim please let me kill the other Worm

Yharim please

Yharim can i please kill that Worm

Yharim

Yharim i'll devour like 10 gods. ok. 11. i'll devour 12 even. just let me kill that worm. please. 13.

[simple tangle]

crazy how noxus made the perfect worm and then immediately made a worse version

[raven brook]

TRUE

[young socket]

REAL

[dusk laurel]

🔥 🖊️

[long bloom]

it was so perfect it wanted nothing to do with his bitchass

[raven brook]

j

K >

Evil keyboard

Anyways I LOVE WEAVER RAHH

[dusk laurel]

joseph kiden

[eager bluff]

storm weaver took the good worm design in the divorce

[raven brook]

[dusk laurel]

TRUE

[long bloom]

[simple tangle]

real

[raven brook]

tofu weaver,,

[dusk laurel]

buries cheese in sand

[simple tangle]

does dog even do anything
he killed two guys

[long bloom]

no

they're still alive

[agile matrix]

storm weaver??

[long bloom]

but he killed many gods

[simple tangle]

what does he even do? OH YUEAH THEYRE ALIVE HAHAHAHA

[agile matrix]

DoG scared of Storm Weaver?

[eager bluff]

dog has killed quite a few gods

[pulsar ocean]

name one

[eager bluff]

we just dont see them

because he killed them

[long bloom]

we dunno any

[raven brook]

my son

[simple tangle]

such a potential man

[long bloom]

but they died

[pulsar ocean]

is there any proof he actually ate any

[eager bluff]

yeah

[raven brook]

Yeah

[eager bluff]

draedon directly says he did

[simple tangle]

its funny imagining its just statements

[long bloom]

yharim says so

[raven brook]

Read the lore whisper for storm weaver

[dusk laurel]

i love giving mandibles to things with jaws

they should be antlers smh my head

[pulsar ocean]

yharim is known for being yharim

[long bloom]

why would he lie about killing more gods better

[young socket]

oh m,y god is this a fuc king limbys reference

[raven brook]

lightning bolt mandibles >>>

sorry vanillin that is an l take

[dusk laurel]

im gonna blow you up

[simple tangle]

he probably did eat a few gods but its so fun to slander him

[eager bluff]

and everybody promptly forgot about them because if you're enough of a chump to live until the rough end of the crusade and then die to an oversized worm you probably werent worth remembering in the first place

[long bloom]

that's like literally his entire thing

[raven brook]

antlers dont fit with the design anywhere near as good as lightning bolt mandibles and he'd look weird without the mandibles itd make him look bald

[simple tangle]

yharim i DEFINITELY killed like, a few gods PLEAAASE GIVE ME A NEW ARMOR pleaaaaaaseeee

[raven brook]

dont bald my worm ..

[dusk laurel]

im balding your worm

[long bloom]

someone get fables weaver i don't have it but i remember it had horns

[dusk laurel]

fables wont have weaver iirc

iban weaver in the bin

[long bloom]

concept art still exists

also l

[long scaffold]

“Though Yharim once believed that the essence he devours is utterly and completely erased from existence, it is a fundamental rule of creation that energy cannot be destroyed– it can only be transferred from one form to another."
What else would essence mean here

[night barn]

i think a bit of the issue is that its a little unclear what sepulchre is meant to represent and "a contemplated possible future of the cosmic serpent" is worded a little abnormally for a metaphor

[raven brook]

Yeah it is worded a b it weirdly

[simple tangle]

it does come off as "this is what dog would have ended up as if you didnt stop him"

[long bloom]

and from yharim: "though this lofty title was self imposed, undeniable truth made it stick"

[eager bluff]

when discussing statistics of gods killed yharim would not lie about it because its a count for the number of dead gods and. yharim does not care if you killed more gods than him, any gods you kill directly translate to fewer gods around and that is the best thing ever in his book

[agile matrix]

Yharim is the Godseeker

he Seeks Gods

whatever happens next to them, as long as the Gods he Sook are no longer there, is Good

[eager bluff]

and also you wouldnt kill more gods than him he had a roughly hundred year headstart

[agile matrix]

no they're not wrong

[night barn]

bro hpu sprite hate was so insane to me

[long bloom]

i just wanted an excuse to post it

[night barn]

genuinely such a beautiful sprite

i dont understand

[agile matrix]

metaphor or not, the words, When Read, Visually, read as "If DoG kept Doing This, he'd turn into an Abomination"

[long bloom]

but also like
it says "possible contemplated" how much more ambiguous can you get

[agile matrix]

"a Mutant even. a Deviant (boss)"

[eager bluff]

devs werent happy with the design and also didnt have much of an idea of how something that big would translate to gameplay

[night barn]

they might have thought about it

hdfailure

[night barn]

the second part is like ok whatever but yeah the first part i still just dont get

to each their own i guess

[simple tangle]

if he was allowed to keep going down this path, it would have been.......a calamity

[night barn]

maybe they just had some other idea in mind in which case maybe it was a communication error

[dusk laurel]

hpu dog was like the final evolution of the purple destroyer design dog has had for the past decade

[simple tangle]

whats hpu

[night barn]

unfortunately dog is a giant serpent adorned with cosmilite armor so ????

[long scaffold]

?
What design

[long bloom]

tbf it is kinda basic with the amount of potential something called the devourer of gods has

[night barn]

bro did you see the sprite

[long scaffold]

The DoG resprites?

[night barn]

that mf devoured gods

[long scaffold]

That one

Ohh someone said Storm Weaver and I got confused

Yeah I’ve seen that

[dusk laurel]

💔

[night barn]

this bitch devours the SHIT out of gods bro 😭

LOOK AT THEM TEETH

[dusk laurel]

storm weaver was mentioned alot before the dog design

[long bloom]

i agree
but it is ultimately a purple metal tube

[simple tangle]

fraud

[long scaffold]

This is what got me

[dusk laurel]

that was like ten minutes ago...

[night barn]

maybe adding some extra details on the segments so its not just a tube is a good idea but like scrapping the whole sprite yo??

is crazy to me

[eager bluff]

i mean

[dusk laurel]

it wasnt even done

[long scaffold]

Someone started complaining about a sprite not being used right under someone replying to that
So I assumed they were the same

[long bloom]

most of the reason is that it's too big

[raven brook]

It was a colossal sprite that was still heavily unfinished after HPU left the team

[night barn]

ahh i see

i was missing that it was scrapped after hpu left

[simple tangle]

he probably ate like the god of squirrels or some shit

[night barn]

sucks

[long bloom]

from what i saw its chances weren't amazing even if she stayed

[night barn]

bros eaten some wild gods

[raven brook]

Most of the artists already had a pretty big dissatisfaction with the designa nd with HPU not being there to finish it

Yeah atp its easier to just scrap it than to try finishing someone else's work

[night barn]

yeah

[night barn]

this is sad to me

maybe adding some gold or something would be cool

[long bloom]

i asked a dev about it and they showed me this fanart as a small example of how to make the design more interesting

like god damn

[dusk laurel]

🔥

peak?

[agile matrix]

christ almighty

[long scaffold]

The only part I didn’t like was the removal of the galaxy tail

[agile matrix]

Spriter Hell

[raven brook]

Devourer design discussion number 400

[long scaffold]

That little guy doesn’t stand a chance—

[simple tangle]

are there any interactions between permafrost and calamitas written anywhere? i couldnt find anything in either of their dialogue and the lore doc only mentions that they ARE close
itd be nice to seem em interact some day

[night barn]

im sorry but that is the same sprite with bigger teeth

like yeah its beautiful

[long bloom]

THIS IS UNOFFICIAL AND THE REDESIGN WILL LOOK VERY DIFFERENT

[raven brook]

Perma's her dad. Adoptive byeah

[simple tangle]

yeye i know

[raven brook]

I don't think that's my favorite dog design but it's definitely not just that :sob

[young socket]

their in game dialogue is outdated so they dont mention each other, however draetalk notes their relationship as father-daughter

[raven brook]

Their dialogue will be updated witha ctual dialogue trees later

Same with all cal npcs

[night barn]

p2 is recoloured i suppose yeah but its very very similar in shape

[simple tangle]

iwas onestly kind of surprised they arent in either of their happiness tables tho im guessing its for the same reason of outdated dialogue

etc

[eager bluff]

heart is a great spriter but i think her best work comes when shes translating someone elses design into spritework i dont think shes the greatest as a one person team

[night barn]

yeah and this would be a communication error then

[young socket]

i mean its not really a communication error

apparently she just

started working on it

[night barn]

that is a communication error

[young socket]

it didnt need work at all she just did it

[dusk laurel]

heart made the sprite based off the album art

[raven brook]

Nah theres way more

• Armor design is far different in p1, being much sleeker and applying a honeycomb pattern, thinner overall
• Design for head armor is far more ornate, jewel is blue rather than purple
• p2 turns the jewel into a sort of eye, more orange coloration in the jewel and eyes
• body has a nebula-like texture and seems to have visible black bones
• the fucking Black Hole

[dusk laurel]

the perspective is consequently a little wonky on the head and mandibles

[raven brook]

The DoG design was literally just the album cover dog yes

which

[young socket]

im pretty sure the phases are switched

[raven brook]

is just. the ingame design

It's the same thing but drawn differently

The biggest reocurring critique with HPU's dog is that, yeah, well made sprite

[night barn]

the black looks more like an attack concept than part of the sprite of me, thats how i interpreted it at least so i didnt really think it would be fair to factor it in

[raven brook]

but the design is bland. its like. the same thing but in hd

[night barn]

aside from the big ol frills that go backwards the head is really similar aswell

and the armor was actually the one thing in that picture im not a big fan of

for phase 1

[young socket]

also no one mentioned the uhh

extra set of thingies

[night barn]

i dont think the honeycomb pattern works all that well

[dusk laurel]

another critique is that heart designed the phase 1 after phase 2

[young socket]

idk wat they are but theyre kinda like teeth but all they hold is hold stuff

[dusk laurel]

and it just looks really weird

and not in a good way

[raven brook]

I think that design is a improvement but i still dont feel too strongly about it

[dusk laurel]

im of the opinion of

[raven brook]

pinterest creature

[dusk laurel]

yes!!!

[night barn]

mandibles ?

[raven brook]

Not that that'd ever work in basecal but man itd go harda s fuck

[dusk laurel]

roy

[young socket]

pinterest creature

[raven brook]

my fuckass beast

[dusk laurel]

can we post the fanart of it...

[night barn]

honestly i do agree that dog would be way cooler if his design got a full reimagining

i just didnt like some of the hate it seemed like hpu sprite was getting

cause it is beautiful

even its more of the same

[eager bluff]

my opinion is that a lot of dog (re)designs fall into the trap of simply iterating on the last design which keeps a lot of it Stale

[raven brook]

I also think alot of redesigns fall into a entirely different trap of forgetting that character design is a thing

[young socket]

we should go so far back in designs to the point where we just take inspiration of what his name comes from

(aldrich)

[dusk laurel]

my summary of it would be that its gorgeous but it lacks depth and just,,, doesnt feel that different from the current design because its just hpu's take on it

the only thing she took her own liberties on was phase 1

[night barn]

wdym by this

[raven brook]

People draw a cool alien worm while forgetting the fact that said cool alien wrom is an actual character with a personality and character traits that arent reflected at all in just turnig it into a cool alien worm

[eager bluff]

phase 1 is cool but it has its own issues

[young socket]

all p1 had different was no armour, those 2 flowing tendril thingys and u could see his bones iirc

[eager bluff]

scar over the eye

[raven brook]

you see if you just want to draw a cool alien worm

astrum deus is right there

[dusk laurel]

and i will give it credit she tried something different with it but it just doesnt work as well because it was built around the armor and not the other way around

[night barn]

oh i see

[simple tangle]

id love seeing a more snake-like dog

[night barn]

yeah i mean i think hpu did a fine job with this

its hard because at least for me the only things i really know about dog's personality are

[young socket]

people do "worm with a character slapped on top" instead of "character that is worm shaped" basically

[simple tangle]

heh....nothing personnel kid....

[eager bluff]

something something @_tofupudding

[night barn]

hes arrogant and likes eating gods and wearing shiny things

[raven brook]

To me it's more of a retroactive justifcation tbh

[night barn]

him being a serpent does like 85% of the heavy lifting at any given time

maybe just conveying that a little more tastefully

rather than him just being a tube

would do well

[simple tangle]

would be nice to see a more i wanna say
expressive design?
without giving up too many of the alien features

[night barn]

yeah i agree

[raven brook]

The design being ornately armoerd and having purple gems seems like it'd fit that at first until you realize every worm boss ever is designed like that and that DoG wasn't designed like that to fit with his character, he was just designed like that because it was just an early attempt to look cool

[simple tangle]

i cant imagine current dog interacting with other characters tbh

[raven brook]

If you want my take i think it'd read FAR better if his armor was ornate and bejewlled but with actual like

real jewels

JNot just Purple

Rubies, Emeralds, Sapphires

And also make his armor not just, Ourple

[long bloom]

[young socket]

also imo, he wasnt ornate enough if that was the angle it was going to

[eager bluff]

and him being named devourer of gods wasnt because of any lore or story at the time its because that was the Cool Thing To Do at that point

[raven brook]

Gold decorations + Purple clothing, often associated with royalty and prestige

[night barn]

well i mean, regardless of this it does fit his character

whether the armor or the character came first

[raven brook]

Ehhh

[night barn]

but yes i do agree

[raven brook]

It kinda does in isolation but it could be much better

[night barn]

they can just go harder with it

[simple tangle]

i dont like the mandible/jaw design of any dog ngl

[night barn]

i think there is nothing wrong with his main color being purple but more variety is good lol

[raven brook]

His main color being purple is fine and it's heavily associated with him atp

But hes literally. just purple

[eager bluff]

his main color being purple is fine the issue is that there really arent any other colors on him

[night barn]

ye thats what im saying

[eager bluff]

theres the light blue sometimes but that also just blends into the purple and isnt easily noticeable

[night barn]

i think its a really cool idea but its just something thats hard to pull off well

[raven brook]

Having other colors on the jewelry and ornate decorations would make em pop out more in contrast with the purple plating too and communicate clearly that like

He went out of his way to decorate his armor like that

This isn't practical in any way he's just a bitch

[raven brook]

Mandibles are extremely overdone in terraria worm bosses but dog was like one of the first to ever do it so i think he can get a pass

[night barn]

i think the devourer of gods deserves some bigass teeth

it really sells the overwhelming force thing

[eager bluff]

his fashion sense is horrible and its extremely impractical but he is the one that eats gods for a living and you are not. you arent allowed to criticize his fashion because he is the one that can eat you

[night barn]

just drive the serpent into the nearest god and watch him explode

[raven brook]

His fashion sense should be the equivalent of a 11 year old building a house out of diamond blocks in minecraft and thinking its the coolest thing ever

[night barn]

something very interesting about dog to me is that he kinda acts the exact opposite of the traditional idea of a biblical serpent and yet he still does serpenty things

[simple tangle]

i rly struggle to imagine dog speaking like a regular ass person

[night barn]

so conveying those two ideas in one sprite is really hard

because yknow theyre very polar

[eager bluff]

yeah

fucking reply broke

[night barn]

but it would be awesome if true

[eager bluff]

yeah

[night barn]

wym like not cringe?

or just

him speaking in a human manner

[simple tangle]

in a human manner yeah

its such a big contrast

[dusk laurel]

dog should sound like hes using voice filters

[eager bluff]

i always think of dog talking in most contexts as him just beaming the things he would say into your head

[night barn]

unfortunately hes kinda forced into being good at human speech

maybe not unfortunately but thats where we are

because hes supposedly manipulative enough to get in yharims head

[raven brook]

dog with dio's voice actor

[night barn]

which might not be very difficult? but it also fits with his whole serpent thing

[raven brook]

He tries to be but i doubt hes exactly good at it

Given he's notably bad at lying

I think he probably was a yesman to yharim more than anything

[simple tangle]

https://youtu.be/LarPvTjGMXY?si=lxTSyKIRlhmV9xQx
i just imagined him with this fuckass voice fiter

[night barn]

i thought it was like In Lore that he managed to sway yharim a bit

[raven brook]

As in Yharim would be like "should i go help my allies or keep killing gods and ignore them" and dog would be like "YES YHARIM KILL GOODS HOORAH HOORAH YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO YES !!"

[raven brook]

That's what Yharim says

[eager bluff]

i think his manipulation is less tricking yharim into doing bad things and more drunk college kid at a party egging people on

[raven brook]

^ yeah

[dusk laurel]

true

[raven brook]

Because i mean DoG's goal is utlimately to eat up that god essence

more dead gods = more god essence to send to noxus

And he's kind of like

really bad at lying

[night barn]

why would yharim say he got manipulated by dog if dog was always just agreeing with him all the time

[raven brook]

why would yharim lie

[night barn]

thats exactly my question

[eager bluff]

yharim twists the truth to make him sound more innocent

[raven brook]

why would yharim find a convenient way of shifting the blame onto someone else

[night barn]

i thought yharim didnt really care

[raven brook]

girl thats like his whole thing hes John Manipulation

his entire goal ingame is manipulating you to be his sucessor because he knows he isnt gonna be able to live long enough to kill all of the remaining gods

[simple tangle]

why does yharim like bees

[night barn]

i figured it was more of him painting everything he does as good rather than him not wanting to take the blame for stuff

[eager bluff]

he wants you to sympathize with him and think he never did anything wrong

[night barn]

like if he acknowledges that the stuff he did is wrong then why would be his successor

[raven brook]

With Devourer he's specifically shifting the blame for his negligence

Not the whole genocide thing he still fully thinks that's right so there's no blame in his eyes

[night barn]

his negligence?

[eager bluff]

yeah

he neglected his relationships with his allies

[raven brook]

Not properly managing his army with lead to it eventually disbanding and being far less organized, several of his strongest allies leaving him, refusing to help the dragon cult when they were being Killed by the Giant Hell Torture Ghost

Late on the crusade he was negligent to any of his duties that weren't Kill Gods

Because he was getting desperate

[eager bluff]

if there was a god he could kill and he wasnt already killing one he would most likely drop nearly anything to Go Get That Motherfucker Right There

[night barn]

if he got manipulated into doing something wrong he still did a wrong thing

[raven brook]

Devourer i think might've egged him on to further motivate this which i do think counts for something

That's like a form of manipulation but ultimately i do think it was mostly out of yharim's own desperation

and devourer just contributed to it by going YES SIR YESA GO KILL THOSE GODS HOORAH

[night barn]

negligence makes some more sense but if its just "dog manipulated me into killing more people" then like just say dog agreed with you because you were doing a good thing

otherwise im not gonna wanna keep killing people

idiot

[eager bluff]

dog was not the cause behind yharims descent into desperation he just sped it up a little once yharim got into that descent

[simple tangle]

what else could dog manipulate him into doing that he wasnt already gonna do anyways

[raven brook]

yeah he'd never say anyone manipulated him into killing people

because thatd imply his whole killing gods genocide kill people thing was bad

and he'd never admit or even really acnowledge that

[night barn]

yeah exactly

agreed

[raven brook]

hes too delusional to do so

[eager bluff]

hes saying dog manipulated him into not helping his allies

[night barn]

lol

[raven brook]

yharim please help us we are being fucking eaten alive by a giant ghost

yharim please

[night barn]

yeah i just was a little unclear on the details

that makes more sense

[raven brook]

yharim jimmy just got his legs eaten

[eager bluff]

YHARIM I SEE A GOD LETS GO KILL HIM

[simple tangle]

the whisper mentions that he literally walked out on the dragon cult right

[eager bluff]

yes

[night barn]

all this to say that i think it would be cool if dog is really trying to imitate human speech but he cant really do it properly

rather than being very well spoken

[raven brook]

yeah i think his voice should feel a bit Of

[night barn]

yes

i love when the character isnt Quite Right

[eager bluff]

you know those videos of crows saying things

like that

[raven brook]

I like dio devourer because its funny as shit

[night barn]

yes literally

[raven brook]

and also fitting enough with their personalities lo

[eager bluff]

if hes talking his voice should be like that

[night barn]

and like really weird inflection

[eager bluff]

however i also like the idea that sometimes he cant be bothered so he goes full eldritch horror mode and just beams what he wanted to say into your brain

[raven brook]

I'm also a big fan of ron perlman xeroc

[night barn]

emphasis on the wrong syllables and very abrupt speech

doesnt flow very well

says some things too loud and some things too quiet

[raven brook]

dio devourer is a bit3 of a meme pick but ron perlman xeroc is like genuinely i think that fits him perfectly

[simple tangle]

i still cant get over the idea of him talking normally with some terrible filter over his voice

this is my headcanon voice for him now

[night barn]

his voice is vocoded to universal collapse

ingame

[simple tangle]

synced

[eager bluff]

ron perlman is great

i love the first hellboy movie i dont remember the later ones though

[agile matrix]

whos ron

[eager bluff]

hellboy from the hellboy movies

also optimus primal

the monkey transformer

and the narrator in fallout new vegas thats the most likely place for one of us to hear him

[steep vortex]

When you think of it, we are just someone mercilessly killing anybody on our path for no specific reason

[eager bluff]

taps the image

[raven brook]

release me

[split mortar]

The image has been released

[steep vortex]

Oh bruh

I love that picture wth

[raven brook]

to add onto that every mandatory boss fight

is like

[steep vortex]

Make that a sticker in the server

[raven brook]

either a evil bastard that absolutely deserved it or something thats attacking you so like its just self defense

this goes for almost every boss

[steep vortex]

I mean don’t you summon the bosses?

[raven brook]

gameplay mechanic, not diagetic

[steep vortex]

Its like if you are provoking them

[steep vortex]

Then there’s scal: just doesn’t want you to become yharim 2

[raven brook]

Futurely devs want to add certain new spawn methods for bosses to fit better with the narrative

[steep vortex]

Niooooo I want it

[raven brook]

Being able to just summon them easily through items or w/e will remain though because its good for gameplay convenience

its just not diagetic

[steep vortex]

Would be cool

[steep vortex]

Doesn’t fit lorewise

There should be a way for each boss to be summoned like without the item

[split mortar]

Somehow vanilla is mostly better then calamity with this since most or all bosses have some way thats not only unique from item but sorts unique from other bosses

[raven brook]

break my 3 purple balls said the eater of worlds

[split mortar]

The balls breaking anger it

[raven brook]

yeah theres more unique spawn methods in vanilla than in calamity i think

the only ones i can think of in calamity are ,ike

[steep vortex]

“Idk put ash in my altar or somthing”

[raven brook]

astrum deus spawning on the monolith i guess but ehhh

[steep vortex]

Scal

[raven brook]

and scal has a similar thing yeah

[steep vortex]

But it’s similar to summon item

There’s exos

[raven brook]

oh and anahita

[steep vortex]

Def exo

[raven brook]

exos is one of the few boss summons thats actually diagetic, wow!

[steep vortex]

Yeah I like how you build the machine throughout the game

[steep vortex]

Aquatic scourge

[split mortar]

Eoc spawns randomly but is also first boss so whatev
King slime can be random or slime rain
Boc/eow break my objects three
Queen bee that fucking larva made of paper
Skeletron say fuck to an old guy
Deer clops midnight in a blizzard iirc
Wof sacrifice your mortal enemy to hell
Queen slime is just the item i think
All three mechs spawn randomly like eoc :/
plantera has the bulb
Golem uses the alter
Duke you fish
Eol you eat a butterlfy
Lc you kill their gaming buddies
Ml you kill the four pillars and Lc before them

Miss any vanilla bosses?

[raven brook]

break my 3 red herats

break my 3 purple balls

[split mortar]

Solve my riddles three

[raven brook]

Yeha p sure thats all of htem

[split mortar]

Damn

[steep vortex]

Yeah

Aquatic scourge has a unique spawn method but uhh

It’s rare as hell

[split mortar]

Not really? Not in my experience

[raven brook]

Calamity has Deus and Scal that basically follow the same recipe as golem, Aquatic Scourge can spawn naturally sometimes, Anahita has the siren thingamabob

[steep vortex]

I barely see it

[raven brook]

And evil2 with the cysts

kill my tumours

[steep vortex]

Yeah

Storm weaver should be able to jumpscare you in the sky so you fight

Cus its funny

[split mortar]

Does anahita just need a good sleep

[steep vortex]

Idk

[split mortar]

Ok infernum but more violent

[raven brook]

Storm Weaver mention ..

[steep vortex]

It’s sad they removed her singing anymation

[raven brook]

mmy son

[steep vortex]

Infernum but it hunts you instead

[steep vortex]

Wait isn’t your pfp Calamitas?

[split mortar]

Cheesetism activated

[steep vortex]

I can’t recall storm weaver being scal’s son

[young socket]

no thats cheese

[steep vortex]

Ok, it is cheese

[split mortar]

Cheese is an inspiration for how calamitas is like in the lore
So
Calamitas is literally cheese

[steep vortex]

What…

Calamitas in lore is cheese?

[raven brook]

my pfp is my sona/pngtuber/whatever

[steep vortex]

Ok I don’t get it

[split mortar]

And also thats cal dbz fused with yuri from limbus company

[raven brook]

A bit of Calamitas's dialogue is partially based of how i talk

The new one, i mean

not the one ingame

Not the actual like lore of the character

[split mortar]

Ingame always bad

[dusk laurel]

mold lore

[raven brook]

and yes my sona is literally just calamitas calamity mod and yuri limbus company

[split mortar]

Cheese how would you fare against calamitas in a pie eating and baking contest

[raven brook]

ive never baked pies before

[steep vortex]

The lines in game that’s gonna change in brainstorm?

[raven brook]

so id say i would lose but i dont know if she has either

nah

theyre not being added in brainstorm

later

dialogue trees nad stuff

[steep vortex]

Nooooooooooo

[raven brook]

cool things

[steep vortex]

Ok I’m sad now

I need the new ones for my game…

[long bloom]

the brainstorm lore economy is in shambles

[raven brook]

yeah brainstorm dosent add much in terms of lore

it does have some stuff but nothing major iirc

[split mortar]

No dialogue and no bestiary entries fuck 💔

[split mortar]

At least we get legendary tooltips……

[raven brook]

wait

ok important question

@spare pier You

Is

Is the funny legendary tooltip you told me about in dms for that one devourer item coming

[spare pier]

Worst timing ever

My keyboard is shitting itself

[raven brook]

Nervous gulp ....

uh oh

[spare pier]

Ok nevermind it was just a fart

[raven brook]

truly .

[spare pier]

Not this update

[raven brook]

fuckkkk ...

[spare pier]

There are 4 coming this update

[raven brook]

😔

PBG is one of them right

[spare pier]

Pristine Fury
Malachite
Blossom Flux
I forgot the last one fuck

[split mortar]

Community?
Think thats legendary

[raven brook]

community legendary tooltip

[spare pier]

SHPC

[long bloom]

does that even count

[steep vortex]

Isn’t seadragon ranged weapon legendary?

[raven brook]

Hello, Calamity Mod Community. It's me, Ozzatron, John Calamity. Today we're going to be playing Five Night at Freddy's

[spare pier]

Yeah but that's not getting a tooltip this update

[steep vortex]

[raven brook]

Pristine Fury is cool because either Zaelithar lore, Providence lore, or both

All of which are interesting options

[spare pier]

I could see The Community getting a tooltip but I think it would be

[steep vortex]

Is writing lore fun for calamity to you?

I wonder

[spare pier]

Unique

[steep vortex]

Yeah

[spare pier]

Yeah

[raven brook]

Blossom Flux is Plantera right

[steep vortex]

Shattered community tooltip

[spare pier]

Yes

[steep vortex]

Must be

[cosmic zenith]

*Kills you and adopts Weaver*

[spare pier]

Also not Shattered Community

[steep vortex]

I enjoy writing lore

[raven brook]

FCKED UP

[dusk laurel]

tofu zaelithar 🔥

[split mortar]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spare pier]

Shattered Community is not getting one

But The Community maybe will get one

[raven brook]

Shattered Community tooltip

[split mortar]

👁️

Why no shatterd comunity

[dusk laurel]

shattered community talks about the horror

[dusk laurel]

dedicated

[raven brook]

Hello, Calamity Mod Shattered Community. It's me, Evil Ozzatron. Evil John Calamity. Today we're going to be playing Four Days at Timmy's

[steep vortex]

Just make it the community’s but reversed

[spare pier]

Because it's a Dev Item

[steep vortex]

Example if it’s hello it’d be “olleh”

[spare pier]

Meanwhile The Community, while dedicated

[steep vortex]

[spare pier]

Is definitely the most

Ambiguous one

Because it's not dedicated to one person

[long bloom]

it's dedicated to literally the entire community

[spare pier]

Yeah

Besides the idea I had for it would be

[dusk laurel]

wait youre hu tao again

[spare pier]

Quite simply

To make it be about the player

[long bloom]

~~ oh is that why it's called that ~~

[steep vortex]

Guys is Calamitas my friend?

[long bloom]

cheese what do you think of the terrarian

[soft flame]

[long bloom]

this will be calamitas's canon opinion

[raven brook]

They're you.

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

I can see Calamitas getting along well with the Terrarian but that depends entirely on what the Terrarian is even like

Alternatively

[split mortar]

True

[raven brook]

she could fucking hate you

it depends

[spare pier]

We had an idea for a new obtainment method for The Community and I thi oops there goes my keyboard

[raven brook]

its up to you and etc etc

ah is it shitting again

[spare pier]

Farting again

[raven brook]

moment

[spare pier]

It just loses contact every now and then because my PC has been having contact issues

Same goes for my mouse and occasionally my internet cable I assume

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

unrelated but do you guys think Braelor and Statis could actually like get along with Calamitas after enough time has passed and they got to understand her previous situation better
Mainly asking because while someone like Amidias obviously wouldn't, i'm a bit more curious about Braelor and Statis since they're close to her in their age range and they weren't as directly affected by her actions, so i feel like it's more likely for them to actually be chill with her eventually. Obviously not immediately

Plus they all hate yharims guts

so like

yharim hater club

[long bloom]

amidias forgave calamitas in current canon

[raven brook]

Yeah thats being killed

[eager bluff]

i think amidias is like

[long bloom]

ic

[eager bluff]

"i understand why you did and i acknowledge that you felt like you had no other choice but i cannot forgive you for this" he gives me that kinda vibes

[raven brook]

As far as i understand he's not gonna like try to kill her or wish she died or anything but he would simply not be able to forgive her for everything she's done to him and his people and would rather avoid her as much as he can even if she has grown as a person and became better

[eager bluff]

understanding without forgiveness

[raven brook]

Yeah that's sort of the same vibe i get

[long bloom]

true

[raven brook]

He'd not actively go out of his way to like get revenge or something and come to understand why she did the shit she did but forgiveness is not something he can ever give and they would both understand that it is for the best that they just remain distant from eachother

"Go on with your life but please never come see me ever again" for amidias

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt yharim ask draedon to nuke the sun if he knows the sun god exists

[eager bluff]

i think only one of the 2 between statis and braelor would be able to fully forgive cal im just not sure which one

[spare pier]

As I was saying

[eager bluff]

lock in chat its time for haguri ideasguying

[spare pier]

And I think that it would make sense to have The Community talk about the player and the impact their actions have had in the world

[steep vortex]

My headcannon is that Calamitas is my friend and that our fight has friendly fire off

[raven brook]

keyboard stopped farting

girl win !

[spare pier]

It specially works with The Community's ambiguous canonicity

Just like the Terrarian

It's up to you!

[raven brook]

Anyways yeah i think the community being about YOU makes the most sense. The only other thing i can see fitting for it would be it talking about like, the people of the world as a whole. Like society as a collective

[split mortar]

Ueniddnskun&’dn7.’ Yoooooo

[spare pier]

Also about this shoutouts to how after mentioning the idea to Cei we had an hour long discussion about the subject

[pulsar ocean]

i thought the community was a 4th wall break and is not canon and thats why its so out of place compared to every other anahita drop

[spare pier]

Not RoY subject

Don't say it Cheese

[raven brook]

THE WHAT .

THE WHAT

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[split mortar]

BACK DEMON

[agile matrix]

what subject

[split mortar]

SHUT UP

@raven brook BACK DEMON

[eager bluff]

like i feel like one of them would be a lot more understanding of cals position and forgive her and the other would use that as more motivation to fucking kill yharim

[agile matrix]

no im intrigued

[spare pier]

The subject of the Tooltip I mentioned in Cheese's DMs

[raven brook]

Why does community drop from anahita specifically anyways whats up with that

[agile matrix]

what tooltip

[pulsar ocean]

i wonder if the subject has any lore thats up to the player

[spare pier]

Which ok I will say

[wheat walrus]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAHAHA

[agile matrix]

why does the item exist anyways what up with that

[spare pier]

It was about Cosmic Discharge's Tooltip

[split mortar]

😭

[agile matrix]

the thing has a tooltip

[raven brook]

No

It'll have one

[spare pier]

I had an idea and I was like

[agile matrix]

?

[spare pier]

"Holy shit"

"This sounds so peak"

[agile matrix]

what could you possibly put in there

[spare pier]

Bro

[raven brook]

shh

[spare pier]

It's

[agile matrix]

"its like space its so cold brrr"

[spare pier]

The Distortion

Do you have any idea how many fucking things there are to say about the Distortion?

[agile matrix]

i make a mockery of things i dont see infront of me no diss on you

[agile matrix]

"its so cold and theres like rocks and shit there"

[raven brook]

I don't think you're a real person

[pulsar ocean]

its purple

[agile matrix]

no im arguably real

ask 99% of people who know me and they'll say im real

[raven brook]

Those people aren't real either

[eager bluff]

so sticker heres what you're missing

the distortion

is an entire fucking dimension

[pulsar ocean]

cant wait to see noxus's half life 2 citadel in the distortion

[split mortar]

Its a whole ass fucked up dimension thing

[raven brook]

the cosmic discharge tooltip is very funny i wish it was in brainstorm

itd be a lore thermonuclear bomb i think

[agile matrix]

planewise or locationwise

[eager bluff]

you cannot look at essentially all of reality and say "yeah i dont know what there is to say about this"

[agile matrix]

i really can

[raven brook]

you unreally can because you're not a real person

[agile matrix]

thatss kinda what modern philosiphy is

how the fuck do you spell it

that is not how you spell philosopher

[eager bluff]

you can but no offense it would make you sound like a fucking dumbass

[agile matrix]

thats what philosophy is

[split mortar]

My modern philosophy is play in stars and time siffrin is so peam

[pulsar ocean]

whyd they say everything non sso is coming in bs if the vanilla bestiary stuff like moonlord entry isnt in bs

[spare pier]

Not sure if it's going to be that but also

It's a fucking awesome idea and I love it

[raven brook]

My modern philosophy is that StickerBored is not a real person

[split mortar]

My philosophy is that you are the terrarian

[agile matrix]

"i dont actually think that This is all too important, actually, and we're overhyping this since We dont know IT"

like yea thats a reasonable philosphy

[spare pier]

Because we went back to revise it for release and didn't like how it was

[raven brook]

I literally know it she dmed me the tooltip

[agile matrix]

no like if you showed a person at the end of calamitys dev time (when its all done and over) they would barely care

[spare pier]

I DMed you the idea for the tooltip

[agile matrix]

because they'd have already seen it hundreds of times and they would like

be able to go Into the Place

[raven brook]

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[agile matrix]

but since we have never seen it before, hearing just anything about The Place is very cool

[eager bluff]

yes congratulations you have discovered the fact that things are often taken for granted when they've been there

[agile matrix]

correct

[pulsar ocean]

what is ts (this) discussion

[agile matrix]

so i dont think this will be Mind Boggling i think it will simply Mind Juggle

[raven brook]

you dont even know what the tooltip is dude

[split mortar]

I dint know but i dont fuck with its vibes

[raven brook]

😭

[eager bluff]

this is not revolutionary its not even that smart of a statement a lore drop like this is huge because we dont have that lore

[agile matrix]

yes

indeed

[raven brook]

People are just saying shit i have no idea

I could say sticker is not a real person for the 5th time but i think that bits old now

[agile matrix]

the bit is ancient now

like the distortion

[raven brook]

yeah

[split mortar]

This convo has bad vibes fuck you all nightmares upon everyone who participated and goodnight

[pulsar ocean]

old? like yharim
after his reign?

[agile matrix]

fuck you man i've been suffering from those

[pulsar ocean]

just what i needed at 5 am

[feral skiff]

I hope both sides of you pillow are Mr.Antenna TV time deltarune

[modest drift]

hi, im new

[feral skiff]

coming straight from your house

[pulsar ocean]

hi new

[agile matrix]

whats up flavio

[modest drift]

how do i download this mod

[raven brook]

hey

[pulsar ocean]

download tmodloader

[feral skiff]

go the steam workshop

[agile matrix]

#calamity-mod-talk

[raven brook]

Wrong chat, but download tmodloader on steam

[modest drift]

tks

[feral skiff]

tmodloader, steam workshop, subscribe to calamity mod

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/politics-madness-pirates-of-the-gif-7567743

[real drum]

Wait how old was Calamitas when she destroyed Azafure?

[agile matrix]

like 9 i think

young

toddler

[eager bluff]

very very young yeah

preteen at the oldest

[strong quail]

Child labor at it's finest

[real drum]

Yeah I thought so but wanted to make sure
Cuz I heard somewhere else (it was unofficial) that it happened later in her life

[eager bluff]

thats just trauma

[agile matrix]

im unsure if calamitas mentions like "younger than i remember" or "my first memory was my last time seeing it" or whateverer

[eager bluff]

ilmeris was the child labor part but that happened a while after azafure

[real drum]

Basically, she young
Was she already in Yharim's army at the time or is that what caused her to be recruited?

[agile matrix]

but we do infact know he Burned that Shit Down

[real drum]

yeahhhhh child labor 🥳

[agile matrix]

yaaaaaaaay

[eager bluff]

not directly what caused her to be recruited but it kicked off the chain of events that led to her being recruited

[real drum]

Okay
Once again, unofficial sources be screwing my knowledge up

[raven brook]

yharim seeing a child who just had her entire family die and her home and everyone and everything she has ever known be incinerated overnight

[agile matrix]

insert image of mr krabs

[fleet wedge]

For now

[agile matrix]

reasonably we wont

[fleet wedge]

By the way, what happened to that suggestion with Weaver's dashes becoming zigzagged?

[fleet wedge]

I need a plushie of him yesterday

[fleet wedge]

Dammit

[fleet wedge]

[agile matrix]

i think tofu would implode and they need tofu for concept art

[fleet wedge]

"Sook"

[strong quail]

what are the implications of the line "An unknown factor--a catalyst is what you are" outside of Draedon still not understanding the nature of the Terrarian?

[raven brook]

You kinda just showed up and grew to power in a fairly short amount of time

That's what he means b y an unknown factor

[night crypt]

i always rolled my eyes at draedon glazing the player ngl

please talk shit about me instead

[strong quail]

yeah but like, a catalyst

does he just mean that the Terrarian started this weird chain of event that led to them meeting?

[glacial rampart]

its a reference . obvious ly . , ,, , sigh.

[strong quail]

ah of course, how could I miss reference to the peak mod "Catalyst"

[mighty zenith]

it balances out with scal just being a total bitch for no reason

[raven brook]

Catalyst because the terrarian Existing was the catalyst for Several Things Happening7

Permafrost is freed, Providence and her cult are finally taken down, Devourer gets killed, etc etc

[strong quail]

I see

[glacial rampart]

also the reference

[strong quail]

Ben

I am throwing you into a cage full of tigers

[glacial rampart]

what kind

[strong quail]

two bengal tigers

[glacial rampart]

those have ben in the name i get attunement

get mogged

[strong quail]

sorry I am afraid you do not know how to tiger drop

you immediately lose

[raven brook]

withered gabriel

[strong quail]

machine, come pick me up from this stupid pizzeria

[glacial rampart]

how much money i pay you to make your profile picture withered gabriel

[mighty zenith]

withered/old aran ryan

[raven brook]

like 8 dollars

[glacial rampart]

toy ozzatron
withered ozzatron

[glacial rampart]

i can do that

[raven brook]

my wise account is right there. you know you want to

you know you do.

give me money.

give me gold.

[glacial rampart]

under where

:giggle:

:teehee:

fuck

i could have swomr

🤭

[mighty zenith]

swomr

[glacial rampart]

there it is

[upbeat verge]

i know wrath of the gods isn't canon and is also separating itself from calamity, but was avatar and emptiness and nameless deity of light originally intended to be noxus and xeroc??

they seem to have a lot of parallels

especially avatar of emptiness's very clear focus on distortion

[cloud ibex]

they started off as noxus and xeroc from an older iteration of cal's story

but at this point they've branched off quite a lot

[upbeat verge]

is the eternal garden or whatever it's called supposed to be the aerie?

[real silo]

No

[pulsar ocean]

aoe is aoe
noxus existed as his own boss in wotg before
nd WAS xeroc

[reef wigeon]

AoE is their own character, Noxus was in the mod before AoE for a while but was replaced with them, and Nameless Deity was Xeroc with lore changes. They are currently separate characters, though based on them. Karma wants to separate WoTG as an individual mod, I think, so it makes sense that they're so different now

[wheat walrus]

nya

[random mulch]

yharim be tall

[upbeat verge]

three people in a trenchcoat

[scenic olive]

bees

[noble falcon]

So that’s why he likes bees, he IS bees!

[upbeat verge]

three bees in a trenchcoat

[long bloom]

i'm 20,000 bees in a skinsuit

[upbeat verge]

i'm skin

[pulsar ocean]

im suit

[upbeat verge]

and im knuckles

[sacred loom]

Dear god.
John Yharim

[mighty zenith]

seven gnomes stacked on top of each other

[sacred loom]

Bro creates doorways

...I can weirdly envision Yharim constantly walking into walls just because he doesn't care enough about doors, and so, makes them wherever he pleases

[pulsar trellis]

what if he uses saloon doors instead they can probably take a beating

[reef wigeon]

What abilities does Noxus have that make him more destructive than Xeroc?

[upbeat verge]

he controls an entire dimension 😭

[cloud ibex]

we Don't Know™

[upbeat verge]

i think

was noxus even a human that consumed an auric soul or are they something else

i. forgor

[cloud ibex]

other than the fact that it's not a god, we Don't Know™

[real silo]

noxus is the guy from league of legends

[split mortar]

Noxus is not a god or even a human for it is from the distortion, we do not know what noxus is capable of or how strong it exactly is
The only info we have on noxus is
Capable of making long lasting portals
The distortion hivemind is likely from it
Could beat yharim in a fight

Thats all afaik