lore-discussion

[night barn]

i know the name is a reference but like

you couldve put a cool sword in a chest in hell and have it be usable pre boss with any arbitrary name

and it wouldve inevitably become a big thing

[agile matrix]

isnt that why yharim wants us to be mega godkiller pt2

he’s old

[long bloom]

i disagree

[night barn]

shrug

[agile matrix]

bladecrest oathsword

[agile matrix]

also bladecrest

[long bloom]

[night barn]

thats

not the same

at all?

unless it used to be different

[agile matrix]

bladecrest is a sword in a chest in hell

[pulsar ocean]

Didn’t murasama explode in popularity around the time when mgr got hyped again
Like in 2020
I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t have happened ever if it was just a red sword

[agile matrix]

very popular pre-skeletron melee weapon

[night barn]

bladecrest is just the melee equivalent of demon scythe

[long bloom]

yeah i remember that

[night barn]

yeah maybe

it being mgr reference definitely helped but its gotten an identity of its own since then

its just got inherent legacy

[long bloom]

ehhhhhhhhh

[agile matrix]

cal overhaul

[pulsar ocean]

I really doubt it did

[night barn]

?

[long bloom]

:walterheisenbergwhite:

[night barn]

you dont think muramasa has an identity outside of mgr reference?

[tropic oak]

waltah...

[agile matrix]

kehehe

[long bloom]

no

[night barn]

why the hell is it gotting such a special treatment then lol

[agile matrix]

its old

lmao

[night barn]

its definitely a sword symbolic of cal

[plucky juniper]

its identity is that it is a fun reference weapon to an iconic and popular video game

[long bloom]

because it's the mgrr reference

[agile matrix]

eeeeeeeeh.

[hybrid barn]

It's popular

[agile matrix]

half right

[pulsar ocean]

Because it got hyped because it’s a mgr reference because mgr got hyped

[agile matrix]

its very symbolic of old cal

of current cal its an outlier

[plucky juniper]

and its also a simple but effective tmelee sword

[zenith geode]

i would donate everything i have for its removal

[night barn]

thats crazy

yall just arent muramasa truthers

[agile matrix]

i would donate a dollar to have it tiershifted to post plantera

[night barn]

i think it definitely has a legacy of its own because of how popular its become within the mod

[zenith geode]

muramasa is the vanilla dungeon sword and also a swordsman

[night barn]

same thing bruh

this is why it needs a rename

[zenith geode]

not swordsman

[pulsar ocean]

I fucking bet there’s a portion of people that only know cal by the mgr reference sword

[zenith geode]

swordsmith

[zenith geode]

oh absolutely

[long scaffold]

Not removal, it’s rework is too cool
Just being a cool original sword

[zenith geode]

you can give it to something else just kill murasama

[night barn]

this is more indicative to me that the sword is representative of calamity for the greater tmod community no? if the sword is what people know the mod by

[long bloom]

the rework makes it more original yes
but the rework doesn't exist

[long scaffold]

Imo since you find it in a lab it should be Arsenal themed

[long bloom]

[long scaffold]

Like I said earlier

[hybrid barn]

It will though! Eventually™

[long bloom]

phaseslayer but good

[night barn]

it doesnt matter if the sword is a reference, if people are recognizing the mod itself due to the sword then that means its pretty darn solidified in the identity of the mod

[agile matrix]

phaseslayer but not beatsaber

[night barn]

and im not saying it should stay as the reference for that

[long bloom]

nobody is arguing that

[pulsar ocean]

Dude before I got really into cal i remember seeing a YouTube short by some YouTuber like mura or some shit showcasing the rework and the variants and I thought “wow i bet that’s gonna drop soon” i was never so wrong

[night barn]

im just saying its good a good legacy behind it

[agile matrix]

hater mindset

[long scaffold]

Murasama should go be some niche weapon and we should give the rework to something else

[mighty zenith]

i would love to watch the shitstorm that would happen after removing murasama

[long scaffold]

Throw it in as a Shadowspec

[night barn]

removing it entirely is an awful idea in my opinion lol

i think it should just get reworked

and the variants its getting is an awesome way to pay homage to the fact its become so iconic

[agile matrix]

reuse its exact melee attack for a post dragonfolly retier weapon

[long scaffold]

Wait yeah I like that just make its current form Shadowspec and make an Arsenal Weapon get the rework

[hybrid barn]

But yeah, personally? I think it'd be fine if they kept everything about it but just made it...not the Murasma

[night barn]

yeah exactly

i agree

keep it recognizable maybe but change its name

[pulsar ocean]

What are we, avoiding copyright infringement?

[night barn]

shadowspec could be cool if shadowsped currently wasnt lame and useless

[night barn]

?

[long scaffold]

?

[young socket]

funny how the murasama weapon has nothing to do with murasama aside from being a red energy katana

[night barn]

shadowspec just doesnt have much purpose because theres no good endgame content

[pulsar ocean]

I mean in the game you can also run and spam base attack

[hybrid barn]

To be fair, I think that's most weapons

[night barn]

yeah so i think it should be immortalized in some way just because its a really cool symbol of cal

help nudge it towards having more of its own identity

[young socket]

it couldve been any other popular media weapon and it still wouldve been popular because wat made murasama popular wasnt it being murasama, but it being a strong reference weapon

[long bloom]

yes that's. what they're doing already

[night barn]

good

thats all im sayin

[long scaffold]

I’m still on team Shadowspec

[night barn]

think the argument sprung up cause i said it already has its own identity

which i think it does but that cant be realized until it gets changed from being a reference ingame

[long scaffold]

I’d suggest that in #suggestions-posting but I have a hunch I’d get clowned on

[night barn]

ingame its only identity is mgr sword

[pulsar ocean]

What if we threw dog in post scal too cuz he’s an important symbol of cal people recognize the mod for

[night barn]

it just has more legacy to it than that in the greater community

[long scaffold]

But he’s original

You know, not like Murasama

[hybrid barn]

™original™

[night barn]

again i agree with you but i think itd be a shame because shadowspec isnt in a great spot currently

[long scaffold]

is he a reference to something?

[hybrid barn]

I mean, he's surely the original...modded metal worm boss 😔

[night barn]

to be fair a very important progression boss is a little more dependant on its location in progression than a sword but i see what youre saying

[young socket]

well his name is taken from a dark souls 3 boss, his design and boss fight are both based on destroyer

so

[long scaffold]

Oh yes recolor destroyer

[night barn]

people things are allowed to have to their own identities even if they started as less original things

i dont think where they came from matters much

compared to where they are now

[split mortar]

Why did you mention it

[hybrid barn]

Metal worm boss

[long scaffold]

Wait why the heck did Cal’s Murasama come before MGR’s when I googled it

[night barn]

this is disingenuous but yeah

we know dog is also incredibly iconic

but ingame he does kinda suck

so hopefully they manage to fix that up

[night barn]

maybe its because its an . iconic weapon

[young socket]

also the evil hell google spying

[night barn]

also true

[hybrid barn]

It could be more iconic in Calamity, but I think the priority of your results also depends on your search history

[night barn]

definitely does

[split mortar]

ITS NOT A PREQUEL

[night barn]

my favourite cal prequel

[young socket]

if its not a prequel why is it called reign of yharim

check and mate, liberals

[night barn]

is that its official set in stone name

or more of a placeholder

[split mortar]

Adopting this headcanon

[night barn]

yeah you cant convince me silva is evil

bro is literally just the earth

and life

and nature

bro is the essence of trees

that can not be evil

trees are sacred things

[young socket]

pretty sure

@raven brook confirm?

[mighty zenith]

idk nature is kinda fucked up

[night barn]

but its not evil

[split mortar]

Ewewewew

[split mortar]

I played infernum because i thought dog sprite would break infernum and was coming soon

[abstract hedge]

Nature kinda sucks, like getting torn apart by a bear or being poisoned by a plant both suck. IIRC she's not evil anyways, though.

[long bloom]

i thought calamity was gonna die after 22 happened

didn't know there were actual new plans until i came back

[agile matrix]

is the god of knives evil bc knives kill people

theyre neutral

[split mortar]

She isnt evil

[night barn]

yeah but this isnt evil

this is just nature

plus nature elemental can be sympathetic and caring

despite nature itself being focused on survival

[abstract hedge]

Well nature doesn't really have morals

So it can't really be "evil" or "good".

It does have morels though.

[night barn]

ha ha .

[night barn]

seems like silva has a will though

outside of just nature

shes like a mother earth

[split mortar]

Yes silva is good

This is a fact

[abstract hedge]

Yeah the elementals have wills

They mainly just want to spread their domain, which is fine in the case of Silva.

[night barn]

yeah im fine with there being

more life

life is good

hdflr

[robust osprey]

I'm pretty sure that applies to like anahita and that's it iirc

[split mortar]

What does

[robust osprey]

spread their domain and be territorial

ok maybe brimstone too

[split mortar]

Bestiary says its all elementals iirc

[robust osprey]

sand and cloud seem kinda chill

[split mortar]

Both try killing you

[robust osprey]

they're just playin

[split mortar]

❌

[robust osprey]

die

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/isat-in-stars-and-time-isat-siffrin-in-stars-and-time-siffrin-gif-1093344228146400111

[robust osprey]

siffrin gif

[dusk laurel]

lore discussion

[visual kiln]

hello chat

[dusk laurel]

gaster

[thick slate]

meow

[visual kiln]

meow

[mental narwhal]

why is slime god a fraud

[thick slate]

cuz gay

[hybrid barn]

Because they ate the soul of fat fuck

[warm gull]

so is saros possession linked to xeroc in any way or is it just like a remnant of old mod

[abstract hedge]

All elementals yeah, so anahita wants to spread the sea, the (real) earth elemental wants to spread the land, brimstone wants fire/heat, air wants air.

[hybrid barn]

They want to expand...the sky!

[abstract hedge]

Assuming based on the connection darksun has to well, the sun I'd guess it's related to primordial light but not Xeroc cause it's not exclusive to him and you make it.

[warm gull]

I mean you craft a lot of weapons that are theoretically connected to other people

for example, statis' equipment

[robust osprey]

isn't statis blessing getting renamed?

might be misremembering

[dusk laurel]

sentinel's blessing

[real silo]

huh

[plucky juniper]

what is the lore of the Ark of the Cosmos line?

if there isnt, there should be ngl

[robust osprey]

it's a weapon

that YOU 🫵 🫵 🫵

create

[plucky juniper]

well actually theres tooltips

[warm gull]

tips your tool over

a job well done

[plucky juniper]

A worn down and rusty blade once wielded against the evil of this world, ready to be of use once more

A heavenly blade forged to vanquish all evil

A heavenly pair of blades infused with the essence of Terraria, powerful enough to cut through the fabric of reality

The physical culmination of your journey, capable of rending gods asunder

reminder that these were probably written pre-22 so ya

and also that if we were take note of these in spite of that, then it reminds you that yharim is evil and should not be trusted for the 5 billionth time

[warm gull]

yeah yeah whatever.

the lore items say otherwise

[robust osprey]

lmao youre still determinillin

[plucky juniper]

joking aside i think this weapon line deserves more lore beyond heroic sword that vanquishes hero and gets repaired slowly till it becomes op

it implies that it was once used in the distant past. what does that mean?

i like to imagine that og ark was used specifically against moon lord

[robust osprey]

yeah beacuse the dragons wield swords made for humans

yup yup totally

[plucky juniper]

does he know?

[robust osprey]

she

thank you

[warm gull]

bro yharon literally has opposable thumbs

[plucky juniper]

does she know?

[warm gull]

also there were humans there too

[robust osprey]

what I'm saying is

like

you got powers

auric powers

why use a sword

[robust osprey]

this is fair though

[warm gull]

thats not a very good argument at all

[abstract hedge]

"yeah yeah whatever he's a bad guy, his personally funded propaganda network says otherwise."

[plucky juniper]

xeroc pre-ascension is shown using a weapon

and also. SO IS YHARIM

[warm gull]

why does yharon slash at you with his claws and teeth when he could just use... rebirth powers on you

maxie that makes no sense

[plucky juniper]

both of these dudes were empowered by being bonded to an auric dragon

[warm gull]

not even every domain would have been good for combat

a sword is absolutely viable for a dragon regardless

[plucky juniper]

and also

[warm gull]

not like using a weapon means you cant use your own powers

[plucky juniper]

i think dragons could do fine with weaponry

[warm gull]

they're literally called lore items, not yharim's propaganda network

[plucky juniper]

even tho this one fucking died invading leyndell for some reason

[robust osprey]

also I think the biome blade is a bit too small for it to be usable by a dragon

unless there were smaller dragon which fair enough

[abstract hedge]

They're called whispers,as in Yharim whispering lies into your ears.

[plucky juniper]

okay you have to read up on stuff, but a lot of lore contradicts what yharim says. its generally a lot easier to just assume that yharim is wrong whenever he is saying something

[warm gull]

what am i supposed to be looking at here

[plucky juniper]

a giant dead dragon from elden ring

[warm gull]

no they aren't

[hybrid barn]

I was wondering that too, I don't see the weaponry

[plucky juniper]

previously the largest dragon in fromsoft's catalogue until... elden ring dlc.

[robust osprey]

(thats most likely a joke)

[abstract hedge]

They don't technically have an official name, some people call them lore whispers though.

Also they'll be changed to be the Yharock in the future.

[robust osprey]

yharphone

[leaden bridge]

Lore items are literally yharim talking directly to you and there's like in game explicit confirmation he lies in them

[plucky juniper]

anyhow i imagine that weapons could still be used back then because art of pre-ascension xeroc shows he had one

[hybrid barn]

The sequel to the widely beloved Xerock, naturally

[warm gull]

checkmate liberals

[leaden bridge]

Now read them

[warm gull]

I don't read the calamity lore

[leaden bridge]

Bitches be like checkmate liberals bitch I'm a leftist

[abstract hedge]

You believe that darn wiki bullcrap? Use fandom wiki like the rest of us.

[plucky juniper]

maybe not by an auric dragon, but i could easily see some bonded warrior wielding the Ark of the Cosmos to slay the Moon Lord

[leaden bridge]

We just don't think a sword is a good weapon for a dragon personally

[plucky juniper]

or at least, do a very good job of keeping him at bay

[warm gull]

save yharim 2028

[leaden bridge]

Even yharon who's rather humanoid would probably benefit from another weapon type

[warm gull]

if you wanna get super technical a polearm is nearly always the best choice

but whatever. swords are cool.

[leaden bridge]

Weight

And carry

So no, not really

[robust osprey]

the best choice is a rocket launcher. change my mind

[warm gull]

not really a problem for a dragon

[abstract hedge]

Isn't liberalism (at least the modern usage not like the actual definition which is a lot like libertarianism) a leftist thing so those aren't contradictory? (I know not all leftists are liberals).

[warm gull]

the terrarian lifts swords like a zillion times their size while flying I don't think weight is an issue here

[leaden bridge]

If you want to make them properly usable they're gonna have to match the proportions

[robust osprey]

ok but

the terrarian is

[leaden bridge]

So it definitely still goes

[plucky juniper]

its... super fucking weird

[warm gull]

you

[robust osprey]

exactly

[leaden bridge]

Also sprite size is the wordt srgument ever

Lile genuinely worst fucking game element to carry to writing like genuinely

[plucky juniper]

liberal in the us has been used to literally refer to anyone remotely expressing left ideals

[warm gull]

what would the dragons ever be fighting that a polearm isnt the best choice is my question

[leaden bridge]

Most people who actually label themselves liberals are actually like center right weirdos

[warm gull]

fovos was far larger than them

I doubt many dragons were getting into super cqc

[abstract hedge]

By sprite size logic the average rabbit is like 3 or 4 feet tall.

[plucky juniper]

although apparently liberalism is a SPECIFIC philosophical belief that isnt apparently left so ya

[hybrid barn]

Which is kind of funny, because isn't it the other way around? I thought liberalism was just one facet at the left of the political spectrum

[leaden bridge]

It technically is but no one on the planet actually goes by the hard definitions

[hybrid barn]

or center

[plucky juniper]

so its probably just "idiotic conservatives using the word as an umbrella term to describe everyone they dont like, which is mostly people to their left"

[robust osprey]

too much politics

!!!!

[abstract hedge]

Yeah isnt it like a very similar base concept to libertarianism

[robust osprey]

lore

[plucky juniper]

anyhow too much fucking politics here

lets talk about FAKE politics, CALAMITY politicis

[warm gull]

and the dragons had amazing close quarters combat weapons for if they needed to be right next to their target. see claws and teeth

[hybrid barn]

So says Yharim

[leaden bridge]

Ultimately everyone who doesn't agree with killing black people usually tends to end up getting called a liberal and then people who denominate themselves liberals are like well, it's okay to hear both sides of the issue

[warm gull]

a polearm has the extra range viable to make carrying them worthwhile for something that already has weapons on its body

[leaden bridge]

We think most people can agree a proper close quarters weapon is better than your body parts

[plucky juniper]

good grief im not saying an auric dragon USED the ark 😭 i meant likely a guy who used a special sword to fight moon lord

[leaden bridge]

For like multiple practical reasons

[abstract hedge]

According to dictionar.com: "A political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties." I guess it could be considered slightly leftist but I wouldn't consider it right or left wing.

[leaden bridge]

For once you're not putting your claw or teeth at risk of damage

Also even a dagger provides better range

[plucky juniper]

also today i learned that there is a person named "Julia Maria Liberal Liberal" according to wikipedia

[robust osprey]

that guy probably got their shit rocked if their name wasn't xeroc

[warm gull]

I think the dragons didn't use daggers. I don't think whatever you say in response to that is going to change my mind

if you mention some other random weapon type it also isnt going to mean much

[plucky juniper]

i imagine the reason why moon lord destroyed so much in the past was because he was capable of mass spamming big lasers

and other stuff

[leaden bridge]

Anything capable of using tools isn't going to be using their claws or teeth to fight anything unless in desperation

[warm gull]

the dragons were pretty desparate

[hybrid barn]

Yeah, I remembered it was more in the center after sending that initially, my memory was just skewed a bit by the very...absolute "left or right black and white" kind of mindsets you see online

[plucky juniper]

i am going to punch you for saying this

[robust osprey]

would you use your teeth if you had a sword

[leaden bridge]

unless you literally do not have a weapon you're not going to be fucking biting people unless you're like eating them

[warm gull]

I would imagine they mostly carried weapons as ceremonial pieces, and so a dragon with a backup dagger doesn't strike me as particularly realistic

they were unmatched on the planet

[leaden bridge]

Not all of them were

[warm gull]

any use they would have for weapons at that point was punching down

[abstract hedge]

People when they realize there's more nuance than "left or right" like authoritarianism vs liberalism/libertarianism:

[plucky juniper]

i mean, its not something people would expect

[robust osprey]

we already moved on...

[leaden bridge]

Regardless why are we talking about dragon weapons we should be talking about Yharim liking bees like how castro liked cows

[plucky juniper]

so MAYBE

[robust osprey]

no dude they would kill you before even getting close

[plucky juniper]

i could chomp on your arm if you expected me to slash swords on you

[leaden bridge]

If you're in a sword fight you won't bite the other guy before you're dead for sure

[robust osprey]

then I smash your head

[plucky juniper]

or in the MIDDLE of the fight

byeah that is very unexpected because it usually doesnt work

[warm gull]

again what would the dragons be fighting that could sword fight them like humans sword fight each other

[robust osprey]

you are like, really exposed if you're going to bite someone

[warm gull]

they didn't fight amongs themselves, save for like 2 specific cases

[leaden bridge]

Who cares about dragon weapons man move on from it

[plucky juniper]

anyhow theres a substantial difference between us and dragons and that is that we dont have claws or big jaws with teeth

[night crypt]

skill issue

[plucky juniper]

we lost those traits because we found tools more useful

[robust osprey]

yeah

tools are more useful

[plucky juniper]

but since the dragons still have such traits, i doubt they need to pull a sword to compensate for something

[warm gull]

my fault for continuing to discuss an interesting topic that you don't want to engage with anymore

[leaden bridge]

If you gave a crocodile a gun and the mind to use it we don't think it'd be using its jaws all that often is all we're saying

[plucky juniper]

natural weaponry and whatever ability they might have will probably do just fine

[plucky juniper]

how would it

im actually serious how would it

[robust osprey]

fym how would it

[leaden bridge]

We don't know man also give it thumbs whatever

[plucky juniper]

you changed goalposts

you lost

[leaden bridge]

That's not moving the goalpost like at all

[plucky juniper]

anyhow

[hybrid barn]

I feel like a gun would be so inconvenient for a crocodile to use that it'd be better off just biting stuff

[leaden bridge]

Yharon is frankly like terrible at fighting all he does is vomit fire around

[robust osprey]

ok maybe a croco was a bad example

what about a bear

[plucky juniper]

also the difference here is that we're talking about a crocodile using a gun compared to a giant flying dragon with special abilities maybe using a sword

[leaden bridge]

If you gave a bear a gun it'd be pleased it has to move less to kill things

[abstract hedge]

Do dragons have thumbs?

[robust osprey]

yea

yharon has

[hybrid barn]

Also fair-
The gun would be a benefit if they could use it at all since it'd give them a powerful long-range option they wouldn't have otherwise

[leaden bridge]

Not all of them did probably

[plucky juniper]

a crocodile... okay, if he suddenly gained the ability and mind to use a gun, he would absolutely benefit from a long-ranged thing

[hybrid barn]

Yharon has claws

[leaden bridge]

Dragons were all really different

[plucky juniper]

true

[warm gull]

reminded why I don't look at lore discussion very often

[robust osprey]

true

[night crypt]

if dragons could make weapons im pretty sure they`d make it so it fires with a movement of the things or something else

[plucky juniper]

but a lot of them probably wouldn't benefit that much from having a sword

[night crypt]

like no need for thumbs

[plucky juniper]

which is to SAY

TO THE START OF THIS

IF THE ARK WAS A WEAPON USED AGAINST MOON LORD, IT WOULD BE BY ONE OF THE HUMANS BONDED TO AN AURIC DRAGON

[leaden bridge]

We mean like storm dragon doesn't, he's like, a dragon city quadruped

[plucky juniper]

and i think that would be neat to explore ngl

[leaden bridge]

Does nothing happen to the dragon if a human they attuned with dies

We think they should suffer and feel pain it should have consequences for the dragon

[abstract hedge]

I think so?

[robust osprey]

why does it has to be against the literal creature that most humans did not fight

cant it be against like

yharim

[plucky juniper]

because there was fucking humans bonded to dragons

at the time

[leaden bridge]

Were there do we have like proof of this

[plucky juniper]

XEROC

XEROC

[leaden bridge]

Yeah but attunement

[robust osprey]

XEROC IS A 1 IN A MILLION

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, I think it'd make sense for it to have been used against Yharim

[plucky juniper]

so was dogma man

oh my god, is this what it feels to be rebecca arguing against plenty of people?

[hybrid barn]

His crusade started over one hundred years ago, that's long enough for a damaged sword to decay with time

[leaden bridge]

We're still, we're asking about attunement

[warm gull]

bruh we do know that there were more than one person attuned to the dragons

[plucky juniper]

yeah attunement

thats what i meant

[warm gull]

we don't know how many, but we do know that not all dragons had an attunee. I would wager not many did

but there were some

[plucky juniper]

HERE.

[hybrid barn]

BALD

[robust osprey]

BALD

[leaden bridge]

Hey swords decay more to use than they do to time, you probably wouldn't need more than 10 years

Why does yharim not have tje rebirth sigil floating behind his head at sll times

It'd be mad funny

[robust osprey]

also dont you think a sword used at that time would be literal dust as of today

[hybrid barn]

Fair, my point is just that it was long enough ago that if the sword was lost and discarded, regardless of the state it was in, it probably would've been pretty severely weathered anyways

[hybrid barn]

Depends on the quality of the materials, probably

[leaden bridge]

Broken biome blade is made out dirt rocks coral hellstone snd some other bullshit we can't remember

Dirtsword

It is uniquely brown

[robust osprey]

statigel I think?

idk I never used it

[hybrid barn]

Aerialite and Hellstone

Not sure what the dirt and stone blocks are about, but I'd imagine that makes up for the brunt of the weapon's durability

[leaden bridge]

It's absurdly easy to say dirt is the main component because it's how you do the attuning part, you need earth from the earth

[leaden bridge]

It's a biome blade

It's an earth sword

[hybrid barn]

Well- fair, it's just a bit silly for the recipe to be that literal

[plucky juniper]

sprite tiem

[leaden bridge]

Ark is made out of rock candy

[jaunty wraith]

Yknow the mod states were never gon a kill xeroc

So how about instead we romance him

[leaden bridge]

no

[leaden bridge]

Eleark is made out of rock candy and tree bark instead of miscellaneous handle metal

Aotc is made out of hopes and dreams like in Undertale

They should remove Big Rip from aotcs tooltip cuz of the powerscaling implications

[plucky juniper]

okay theres a bit of a contradiction that makes figuring out the lore of Ark confusing:
in the game proper, Fractured Ark is a craftable weapon, yet its tooltip implies it was used for more in the past

[leaden bridge]

Cosmos' tooltip is funny because it is not capable of doing that to the one god you'll fight after you get it

[plucky juniper]

that SAID, its material sword is the Enchanted Sword

[leaden bridge]

The terrarian has the unique capability of just bullshitting up historical weapons

Like this is a fixed characteristic of them

[abstract hedge]

Their only characteristic aside from sucking at naming things.

[leaden bridge]

Doesn't matter if it's one of two funny swords or used to be yharimmom bow or the arsenal weapons though they had to be given blueprints for those but want to know the reason? It's because they're not straight magical but very technological and they're not great at that

In the end they still just manage to recreate incredibly complex machinery with just the blueprints which like, harder than it sounds you know

How much ram do you think the codebreaker uses

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, this is actually a great idea
They should add a dating sim into the mod a la Rainworld

[leaden bridge]

No

[leaden bridge]

Related why does draedon still have screens like that

You're able to manufacture lcd panels don't Lie To Me, like why do we gotta get the shitty blue faux crt screen draedon

He has to have some lcd and frankly probably oled panels for the surveillance of us or Yharim we're sure

[plucky juniper]

he likes those more

[leaden bridge]

Is he stupid

[plucky juniper]

he'll never admit it, but draedon is willing to keep weird design choices for the thematics

[leaden bridge]

They don't even get multicolor that's like terrible

[plucky juniper]

otherwise why doesnt he have drones that dont look like a robotic alien sitting on a comfy chair

[leaden bridge]

Did draedon think the astral was like blue originally

[plucky juniper]

he likes flavor

[leaden bridge]

Okay but that's like clinging to his original humanlike form it's like whatever

[hybrid barn]

It's less funny, but I wonder if he'd do that just because he doesn't think it's worth the energy to power a higher quality screen when the hundred year old blue ones do the job well enough

[leaden bridge]

It's hardly a true impediment over research unlike using monochromatic screens

[hybrid barn]

He needs that for his oversized gundams

[leaden bridge]

We'd wager modern panels are more energy efficient

To manufacture maintain and use

[hybrid barn]

Actually hm- fair point

[leaden bridge]

Like we put these things on phones

Obviously nothing beats calculator and watch screens the name of which we don't remember but

Also the point was made but he has the infinite energy crystals that probude energy infinitely he's genuinely capsble of solving everything thanks to those

He can waste as much energy as he needs

To circle this back to the cosmos line you know how it's capable of attuning to the astral/hallow which was literally just made

Isn't that quirky

[leaden bridge]

Like think about the fact its attunement magic is reactive and capable of using the magic of biomes that were literally not there before

You could theoretically make new attunements by making new biomes

The conclusion to this line of thinking is that the biome blade could be planetary and its magic is tied to the world soul

It's all the world soul when you get down to it

Which, we mean

It's called the world soul

[noble falcon]

Everyone thinks the plague was what made yharim mad at draedon but it was this

[craggy sparrow]

Just think of it as a direct funnel or conduit to the world soul itself

[scenic olive]

can draedon astral project

does his hologram counts as one

can ai even astral project at all

[long bloom]

i don't think anything can astral project in calamity

[limpid saddle]

they took his glorious locks

billions must die

[sinful adder]

Attunement is a universal thing that can happen between anything

This is the best explanation for auric and souls too

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

smth smth not all tooltips are real some dont deserve to have theirs taken literally

[cosmic zenith]

Is that meant to be some sort of proper criticism or just a throwaway comparison

[latent bolt]

how does one explain the Astral Infection's lore documentation and its correlation with its appearance at the start of hardmode

[long bloom]

that's just around the time when deus happens to fling the meteor into terraria

total coincidence

[leaden bridge]

Latter

[faint junco]

How to correctly say Xeroc? What's the transcription

[hushed jasper]

I personally say it like this Z-ear-ock

[long bloom]

i say z-air-ock

[craggy sparrow]

Seems the handle is made out of copper materials the blade i wonder if people kept hunting down slime god's paladins

In the past

[real silo]

zee rock

[craggy sparrow]

le rock

[real silo]

or zay rock

[faint junco]

I used to say ks-e-rok but in videos i heard z-e-roc and wanted to know it's right transcription

[long bloom]

words starting with x are usually pronounced with a z

[craggy sparrow]

We could ask xeroc themselves

but we did just kill his pet worm

[raven brook]

Whos his pet worm

[faint junco]

I don't know even 1 single world that starts from x

[long bloom]

whar

[long bloom]

made up words

also xylophone

[raven brook]

Me going up to the first god to ask him how to spell his name

ngl knowing xeroc he'd probably just tell you because hes just chill like that

[long bloom]

what fuckign worm

[faint junco]

Rip worm

[craggy sparrow]

unlike Israeli yharim xeroc is super chill

W xeroc

please give me 500 platinum coins

[faint junco]

Top 10 reasons xeroc is better than yharim

[raven brook]

couldnt xeroc unironically make platinum coins out of light

like he does with the bosses

like what's stopping him

[long bloom]

would touching hardlight kill you

[craggy sparrow]

we can also just

[faint junco]

Game's conditions

[craggy sparrow]

counterfeit money

with shimmer

[faint junco]

insert gigachad emoji

[craggy sparrow]

throw a bunch of gold coins in there

[raven brook]

To be fair i think he wouldn't be able to make it permanent since it's probably something that needs active mana usage to keep up

[craggy sparrow]

lorewise they become platinum

[raven brook]

Does mean he could probably scam someone really hard though

[faint junco]

Erm whatasigma

Imagine the god scamming other gods

[craggy sparrow]

Does xeroc know how to finance

he could crash the economy with fake money

and rug pull everyone

[raven brook]

Probably not particularly well i feel like the economy was very different on the draconic era

[faint junco]

Maybe like xerno-iforgorwhatsnext(mammoth from fandom wiki) he's a broke bitch woth 1 single penny

[raven brook]

dunno if xeroc even had any need for money back then

[craggy sparrow]

atleast in our time as the terrarian the gold standard hasn't been invented yet

[long bloom]

yeah he did

he needed to collect the tax

[raven brook]

boars myself

[craggy sparrow]

Did yharim start off with a copper pickaxe

and a copper short sword

[faint junco]

Nah, he played on adventure mod

[long bloom]

no he was a slave in a cult

[craggy sparrow]

okay ill stop

Real lore question this time, whats the lore for purification powder?

[long bloom]

drugs

[faint junco]

Meth

[raven brook]

good question

[faint junco]

Same mind

[craggy sparrow]

Clentaminator juice as well

[raven brook]

it's sold by the dryad so maybe it has something to do with life magic

other than that i have no idea

[craggy sparrow]

So connected with the god of life?

[long bloom]

it is presently not established in calamity lore

[raven brook]

maybe

[long bloom]

sure i guess

it's possible

[craggy sparrow]

so i guess that solves yharim problem with gods essences?

[long bloom]

there's no actual answers

[raven brook]

Problem?

[craggy sparrow]

i think its just releasing their essences

[long bloom]

it would if he cared

[raven brook]

He keeps the evil biomes around because he wants to

[craggy sparrow]

Since energy cant be destroyed

[long bloom]

free propaganda

hey guys look how terrible the gods are

ignore the hallow

[craggy sparrow]

in a large world the percentage is 4%

[raven brook]

the hallow isnt real ignore it

[craggy sparrow]

of corruption

[craggy sparrow]

theres no lore for it?

[raven brook]

no there is

[robust osprey]

yharim only cleans the biome that does not benefit his propaganda and actively ignores it when released

[raven brook]

i mean that yharim dosent say anything about it

[faint junco]

There's providence

[raven brook]

and thats intentional

no providence dosen't really have anything to do with the hallow

[long bloom]

outdated

[raven brook]

her being there is just a byproduct of outdated mod moment

[craggy sparrow]

wdym by that

[faint junco]

Oh, ok

[long bloom]

it's evidence of benevolent gods existing

[raven brook]

The Hallow is like the evil biomes but is instead made up of the essence of several gods which were far more benevolent

Yharim fully seals it inside of WoF and dosen't even mention it in any of his lore whispers

[long bloom]

he wants you to believe all gods are terrible monsters

when that is false

[robust osprey]

and if gods were sometimes benevolent yharim's propaganda explodes

[long bloom]

hi automod

[eager bluff]

oh automod

[faint junco]

He's worse than him

[raven brook]

Meanwhile, he keeps around a small portion of the evil biomes rather than fully sealing them and has a dedicated whisper for both talking about how EVIL and HORRIBLE the gods would have to be to make such FOUL and DISGUSTING biomes

[craggy sparrow]

oh is that word

not allowe

i was just making a quip

[eager bluff]

its allowed it just triggers automod

[long bloom]

you can say it but it triggers automod

[craggy sparrow]

oh ill just delete it then

[eager bluff]

deleting it wont untrigger automod

[raven brook]

It's not against the rules to do so it just gets logged in automod

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim is pretty nuaced due to this ngl

[raven brook]

this chat has the highest count of automod results for Hitler

[eager bluff]

no hes just evil

[craggy sparrow]

hes a walking contradiction but hes fascinating in that sense

[raven brook]

He's nuanced

But he's evil

[faint junco]

Lore related comparison

[raven brook]

you can be both

[faint junco]

Everything's good

[raven brook]

Like saying he's morally grey is wrong

He really isn't

He's just a horrible person

But that dosen't mean he can't be nuanced

[long bloom]

but he's not flat

[raven brook]

He's not a shallow character

yeah

[long bloom]

he has depth

while being evil

[craggy sparrow]

At some point maybe in his earlier years he must've been a liberator though that doesn't excuse multiple genocides

[robust osprey]

guys, I think the final boss in the game about a previous war happening is a bad person

[raven brook]

"a previous war" more like. a few

a few wars

[eager bluff]

to the smallest extent possible sure

[raven brook]

He started out killing some pretty tyrannical gods

By doing so he got people on his side

And it allowed him to radicalize them further into his ideology

[long bloom]

and then he just kept going

[raven brook]

Permafrost joined him while he was seemingly doing Good Things only to then realize oh god oh Fuck this guy Sucks Actually

[robust osprey]

and then the evil gods ran out and yharim needed to fill the quota so he started killing the god of joy and happiness

[raven brook]

Yharim is kind of just straight up delusional

[long bloom]

only took like 60 years

[raven brook]

Not as in like a exaggeration or slander just straight up he's literally delusional

[craggy sparrow]

Wait im confused is his name not archmage?

[eager bluff]

no

[craggy sparrow]

or is just that a title

[long bloom]

that's his title

[craggy sparrow]

oh

[eager bluff]

hes The archmage

[long bloom]

he's permafrost the archmage

[craggy sparrow]

im dumb

[raven brook]

my child will be named archmage

[craggy sparrow]

the deepwoken developer

[robust osprey]

not better than "permafrost"

[real silo]

archer magnus

🙏

[raven brook]

anyways as i was saying

[long bloom]

also not his birthname

[robust osprey]

I know

explode

[raven brook]

Yharim is like 120 years old and out of those 120 years 100 of them were spent Crusading

it reaches a point where his entire existence is Crusade

[robust osprey]

his birthname is john

[real silo]

returns to sender

[robust osprey]

explodes

[raven brook]

abandoning that existence would basically be accepting "hey your entire life and existence as a person has been pointless" so he kinda just doubles down

[craggy sparrow]

would you say that calamity terraria is a post apocalyptic setting?

[raven brook]

nah

[craggy sparrow]

since its mostly remnants

[real silo]

Permafrost birthname is albert

[raven brook]

society still exists at large

[long bloom]

"only" half of the population died

[craggy sparrow]

yeah thats what im thinking

[raven brook]

theres civilizations out there you just dont see any ingame because you only play on 1 continent and its the hell evil continent that was the central point of conflict in the crusade

[craggy sparrow]

how many died in the wars

[real silo]

america

[raven brook]

its less post apocalyptic more like post-ww2 but more drastic

[craggy sparrow]

Oh is that the actual lore reason?

[raven brook]

yeah

[long bloom]

isn't the evil hell continent the volcanic wasteland

[raven brook]

Azafure was here

Illmeris was herer

The god corpses/essence were dumped here

[craggy sparrow]

evil ass continent

[raven brook]

Most of the major events in the crusade happend ehre

[long bloom]

~300m died directly in combat iirc

[raven brook]

well that's ANOTHER evil hell continent

which as we all know is actually not only a volcanic wasteland but also a frozen barren wasteland (orios headcanon my beloved)

[craggy sparrow]

Is there any lore of surviving kingdoms

[dusk laurel]

[long bloom]

oh true

[long bloom]

the crystal city

[raven brook]

Not much since all of it is outside of the actual game and we'll never get to see it but we might get bits of worldbuilding later

[long bloom]

that's it we just know the name

[robust osprey]

dungeon is here

[raven brook]

We know there's like, 4 ? other continents in the world besides the one we play in

[robust osprey]

wheres america

[long bloom]

nevada

[dusk laurel]

america is the distortion

[robust osprey]

seems fair enough

[real silo]

noxus is trump

[craggy sparrow]

Theres mods that just transport you into a new world i think the devs can do something there by having pre made maps ngl

[raven brook]

Scope Creep sticker

[craggy sparrow]

hopefully

[raven brook]

Anyways

[eager bluff]

octolinggrimm scopecreep image

[real silo]

If that scope so creepy why am I not afraid

Checkmate gobliberals

[robust osprey]

scares you

[dusk laurel]

blows up altraxium

[real silo]

AHH

[robust osprey]

woman jumpscare

[eager bluff]

sisyphus prime jumpscare

[real silo]

that can't happen I'm the blowupper not the blowed upped

[raven brook]

The ingame continent, commonly reffered to as "The Heartlands" (because it's "The Heart" of the crusade), but the actual name is whatever you put in your world

Ibipaua which is a very large tropical continent, the name Ibipaua coming from Tupi-Guarani iirc (One of many native brazilian langauges)

Thelma which is the continent Permafrost was born in and also where the Goblin Army comes from

A unnamed continent that apparently is the only one comparable to The Heartlands in how dangerous it is, being possibly worse than it for actual survival. We know it's extremely volcanic and there's alot of Lava but not much beyond that, i really like the headcanon that it's not only hypervolcanic but also way up in the north/south and extremely cold and barren, adding to why surviving on it is so hard

And a 5th continent we know literally nothing about

[real silo]

would sisyphus prime solo polterghast

[craggy sparrow]

I wonder if the devs also made lore for arenas we make lmao

[dusk laurel]

the turns are tableing

[craggy sparrow]

just as a fun side bit

[raven brook]

How would that even work

You. you made the a rena.

[long bloom]

i thought it was ibipaua and telma

[eager bluff]

sorry alt im the supreme explosionator so my authority overwrites yours

[raven brook]

It's Ibipaua i deleted the I by accicent

:sob

[craggy sparrow]

Idk just some yharim notes taunting us or smth

[real silo]

Ok. Implodes you instead

[craggy sparrow]

back in my days i used to raw dog it

[real silo]

Scal should comment on my incredible interior design that I spent 150 hours on for her

[raven brook]

Why would Yharim taunt you for building an arena and how would Arena Lore even work because like

every person can build a boss arena however they want

[craggy sparrow]

Yeah i guess it wont work but i just found it funny in my head

[raven brook]

Shrimply make up lore in your head for it

YOU 🧑‍🦱 🫵 made it YOU 🧑‍🦱 🫵 can come up with its lore

[real silo]

Lend me your hand xeroc this is terrarian with wood platform we're going up against

[craggy sparrow]

xeroc when i place 500 billion buffs

in my world wide arena

[raven brook]

None of this is ingame btw it's all from dev statements and discussions in the server so it's subject to change

It'll likely be mentioned ingame in some way eventually but yeah

[real silo]

Heartlands can just refer to the center of any landmass iirc so it might refer to the heartland of the entire world not just the crusade

[craggy sparrow]

I really like the idea of volcanic activity in a sub zero era

area*

[real silo]

Smae

[raven brook]

its true

orios headcanon goes hard

[craggy sparrow]

Given how many mobs there are already in the ice biome in hard mode i think it would be even more hard to explore

[raven brook]

lore writers make it canon and my life is yours

[long bloom]

iceland if it sucked

[raven brook]

look

[real silo]

I accidentally wrote the cold volcano land before I heard about the orios thing

[raven brook]

ibipaua is already just Fantasy Brazil

we can have that evil ass continent be Fantasy Iceland

[craggy sparrow]

Is there a kingdom in thelma?

[real silo]

antarctica if it got merged with indonesia

[craggy sparrow]

Like the goblin faction

[raven brook]

We dunno

[real silo]

the goblins are mongols

[raven brook]

We know Permafrost and Goblins both came from there so clearly there's some sort of society/civilization

beyond that

yeah we got nothin

[real silo]

Sorry I think I meant nomad

I'm atulid

[long bloom]

something something irrelevant

[real silo]

If they're on another continent does that mean they can sail

[craggy sparrow]

I guess they're individual nomadic tribes?

[raven brook]

It's not really a priority because yeah it's just

[craggy sparrow]

that go on pillaging

[real silo]

Or are the continents just connected

[raven brook]

Minor bits of extra worldbuilding and trivia

[real silo]

Like europe and asia

[raven brook]

just like all the other continent stuff

[long bloom]

we know literally nothing

[raven brook]

We will probably get more on them in some way but it's just minor worldbuilding so its not really a major focus and we won't likely get that much beyond just that

[raven brook]

I mean they're clearly sapient i don't see why they wouldn't

that does mean the goblins are like technically pirates though

which is kind of ufnny

or i guess you could also classify them as vikings

viking army my favorite pre hardmode event

[long bloom]

pirate invasion if it was good

[craggy sparrow]

In my terrarian lore he managed to make a semi kingdom utilizing draedons technology with the help of the mechanic and goblin tinkerer for construction tech

[real silo]

vi kings when they meet bi kings

[craggy sparrow]

I wonder how the other kingdoms will act

[real silo]

kings who are bi

[craggy sparrow]

given the fact theres a growing faction

in the continent

I could make some lore on trades ngl

[real silo]

Well there's not many kingdoms in thete anymore

if any at all

[raven brook]

In the heartlands there's uh

none

[long bloom]

i don't think anyone else gives a shit about whatever the heartlands is doing anymore

[hushed jasper]

Morning guys

[raven brook]

but out in the other continents yeah

there's other kingdoms

[errant swallow]

heartlands has no kingdoms for some reason?

[real silo]

Goblins are smart they're going after the shitty continent and claiming it as theirs

[raven brook]

Yeah because they all got blown up

[long bloom]

they all fucking exploded

[craggy sparrow]

Ngl we have trade prowess given the amount of time things we can leverage like draedons lab tech

[real silo]

Azafure, chrysadia, ilmeris all got deaded

[craggy sparrow]

or other weapons

[errant swallow]

how much time ago from current game did crusade end

[raven brook]

Though given the absolute mess that is the state of the world right now i feel like most civilizations wouldn't be able to afford to worry much

[long bloom]

like a year

or less

[errant swallow]

wait really

and how old is yharim anyway

[raven brook]

It technically didn't "end" officially but Yharim kinda just dipped and alot of his previous soldiers disbanded

Like 120-130 something

[craggy sparrow]

100+

[long bloom]

it was dying down for a while and then mostly fizzled out when yharim dipped

[errant swallow]

how is he alive

[long bloom]

yharon attunement

and draedon enhancements

[craggy sparrow]

Yharon bullshit

[long bloom]

probably

[raven brook]

So like, technically it didn't end but with the lack of an actual central leading figure and alot of its biggest players like Permafrost, Draedon and Calamitas leaving
At most there's gonna be some groups of Yharmy remnants fucking shit up, uncoordinated from eachother

[long bloom]

mostly yharon though

[craggy sparrow]

Imagine we see him and hes not in his prime technically

[raven brook]

Which is definitely better than a giant fucking unified army lead by the strongest man in the world actively going after each and every single god with extreme coordination and tactic

[craggy sparrow]

just strapped in his throne

[long bloom]

he is

[craggy sparrow]

with multiple life supports

[raven brook]

He's in his prime right now

[craggy sparrow]

but still powerful

[long bloom]

he's buffer than ever currently

[raven brook]

Yharon attunement means that despite being 120 something hes as full of vitality as he was in his youth

So basically just the worlds most buff grandpa yeah

[craggy sparrow]

oh so its basically age immortality

[real silo]

He's yoriichi

[raven brook]

Not immortality

He still dies of old age

In fact that's a major plot point for him

[real silo]

Straight up

[long bloom]

he probably does the mother gothel thing where he keeps getting stronger then withers and dies really fast

[raven brook]

He's depressed as fuck because right at the near-end of his life everything goes wrong with his crusade and he realizes that oh shit i'm gonna fail miserably on the whole kill all gods thing

So he goes to the Aerie to try to train as much as possible and then

he finds YOU 🧑‍🦱 🫵 and has a Plan

[real silo]

Strong as fuck mfer
Dies of old age at 80 without losing any bit of strength and still at his prime

[raven brook]

That plan being he slowly realzies that you're really fucking strong actually and that maybe he can mold you into being his sucessor

[long bloom]

MANIPULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eager bluff]

yharim pukeko

[raven brook]

That's what the lore whispers are, though in the future rather than just Beaming them into your skull from the getgo you'll find an item that is basically a magic communication stone that will be the source of those whispers instead

And at first ,Yharim will only observe your journey out of curiosity and boredom, basically

He hasn't left the aerie in a year, you just so happened to stumble upon an old communication artifact, so

why not

[real silo]

Yharim like that one image

[eager bluff]

kill everyone

[real silo]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-everyone-spongebob-magic-conch-stare-commanding-gif-17677578479510478658

[raven brook]

But then as you start becoming obviously stronger that passing curiosity changes into him taking a interest in you and wanting to mold you into his sucessor

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim watches as i set up a hoik rail system

[real silo]

and he's even yellow

[craggy sparrow]

and travel in the speed of light

[raven brook]

john gaslight cant keep himself from manipulating people

not even the random ass person they just met

😔

[eager bluff]

hoik rails wont even get close i cannot lie

[leaden bridge]

Yharim's so bored out of his mind he's willing to pick up the guy who kills a slime

[raven brook]

It's probably pretty boring up there in the aerie
Atleast he has yharon

[long bloom]

imagine having nothing to do but listen to yharon all day

[eager bluff]

if the glorious end wulfrum acrobatics pack bug is still in that is faster than the speed of light specifically because you're outspeeding the lighting engine

[raven brook]

He can uh. train. and talk to yharon. and uh

yeah tahts about it

are there birds in the aerie

maybe he can go birdwatching

[eager bluff]

theres one big fucking bird

[long bloom]

[eager bluff]

so he can watch at least one

[real silo]

does yharon have auric fuzz

can his feathers blow you up

[long bloom]

don't think so

[real silo]

damn

fluffy staticky yharon agenda found dead in a ditch

[craggy sparrow]

In my oc lore atleast he manges to gaslight my terrarian until early hardmode where he starts to detach himself from yharim one dimensional thinking

[pulsar ocean]

do dryads do anything in calamity mod

[craggy sparrow]

and kinda just learns more about the past in context, as of now he kinda just treats gods and anything of higher beings as like normal people

atleast to keep his sanity on things and make sense of other beings motivations

[craggy sparrow]

I haven't read up on that, im pretty curious on whats their lore

since i think they're connected to the goddess of life

which is currently in a cocoon

[long bloom]

they're her followers yeah

that's basically it i think

[craggy sparrow]

We only see one though

I dont know if the devs kept the dryad genocide canon

and replaced moonlord with yharim's forces

[long bloom]

i would imagine

[raven brook]

From what devs have said "Dryad" is just a term for wizards that specialize in life magic/biomancy

So they don't necessarily have to be followers of Silva, though the one we know ingame is

[long bloom]

inchresting

[craggy sparrow]

Oh so its a widespread magic

[raven brook]

I imagine there's definitely still plenty of dryads out there, though the fact that life magic originated from a goddess might lead to some discrimination against it

specially on yharim-controlled places

[craggy sparrow]

i thought it was only limited by faith in silva

[raven brook]

Idk if it'd be fully outlawed by yharim buttt i doubt it

because even if it came from a god at first, it's like

extremely helpful

[craggy sparrow]

Its a pretty useful magic

[raven brook]

and you can practice it without having any ties to her

[craggy sparrow]

I doubt it

and its widespread use too

[craggy sparrow]

Yeah

[real silo]

life magic also includes blood magic

[raven brook]

He'd probably justify it with like. Well she was the first person to use it since she's the literal elemental of nature but if she didn't someone else would've anyways

[real silo]

you know who els

[craggy sparrow]

wait @raven brook can we use the biome blade on gods corpes and use their attunements?

or alive ones

[raven brook]

i dunno what biome blade's lore is, if any

[real silo]

that's technically what you do with evils/hallow

[raven brook]

until said otherwise i just work under the assumptions weapons dont have much lore to them

theyre just kinda there

but you can prob make up some cool headcanons for em

[craggy sparrow]

Which confused me since we do craft the ark

when the lore title says it was a widespread used weapon

against evil

[raven brook]

lore title?

[craggy sparrow]

And when we craft it its already in a withered state

[craggy sparrow]

i meant description

sorry

[raven brook]

oh

[craggy sparrow]

They should make it a drop ngl

Biome blade is probably due to us not having the necessary tools and items to complete it

therefore being in a broken state after forging

[raven brook]

Idrm what its tooltip says but much like how you can craft like a iron broadsword and someone else can also do that it might be a thing where you're just crafting the weapon but you're not the one who like first did so or anything
Like there could be multiple biome blades
Then again that's jus my guess i dont remember what biome blades tooltip is and i don't think it's like super lore relevant its probably just a tooltip that sounds cool

[long bloom]

most weapon tooltips are just random bullshit and should be disregarded

[craggy sparrow]

What i dont get is how they can combine in their fully upgraded versions

[raven brook]

Wulfrum tooltips r cool

And the uhh, sea remains tooltips

those are actual like ⚠️ lore

[long bloom]

ture

[raven brook]

not just random stuff that sounds cool

[long bloom]

and legendary items next update

[craggy sparrow]

Im guessing its due to biome blade mostly due to its adaptive properties

[raven brook]

Ngl if you're gonna add a tooltip to something just to say "This is a legendary weapon that is so cool an dawesome" you might aswell not add a tooltip

Like that's so nothingburger

[craggy sparrow]

if thats the case we should be able to combine it with other weapons

[long bloom]

ozzathoth

[raven brook]

Either add something funny or give me actual interesting lore smh

Most vanilla weapons don't have tooltips

You don't gotta add them

It also just confuses people because calamity has actual lore and having to tell people "yeah this tooltip dosent mean anything actually" without it being communicated ingame in any way is 🥹

wulfrum and sea remains tooltips are really great because they give you actual interesting bits of worldbuilding and trivia

those are the best kinds of tooltips in my humble opinion

[long bloom]

"calamity weapon tooltip deciding if it wants to be canon or not"
angry birds dice gif

[raven brook]

Otherwise you can also have tooltips that are like jokes or references those are good too

[craggy sparrow]

this is factured arks tooltip

this is what confuses me

[raven brook]

yeah that's just like random shit that sounds cool im pretty sure

😭

[craggy sparrow]

if we crafted it why is it worn down

[raven brook]

the ark and biome blade or wtv is never mentioned in the lore anywhere else

[craggy sparrow]

to be used once more???

[raven brook]

genuinely just don't think too hard about it

i doubt whoever wrote it did

[craggy sparrow]

wish we had lore for weapons

it'd be cool if yharim whispers something too

when we craft specific weapons

[raven brook]

Lore for weapons can be cool

Case in point

the

the things i mentioned

my beloved

You should read their tooltips they're very good

[pulsar ocean]

cant you type this out in literally any sword tooltip

[scenic olive]

do we seriously have magic but not astral projection

[mint kernel]

who's silva

[eager bluff]

the life goddess also an elemental i forgot if shes the elemental of nature or life

used to be a lot less goop but yharim put her in a blender and poured the resulting sludge into the abyss

[long bloom]

nature

[waxen steeple]

whos yharim?

[long bloom]

main antagonist

[eager bluff]

yellow hitler

[long bloom]

did way too much shit to say here

read the pinned doc

[waxen steeple]

😭

[raven brook]

read my docs... 🕴️

[mint kernel]

what slush? the plant matter?

sludge*

[long bloom]

this

though she did subconsciously create planty mush yeag

[mint kernel]

oh ok

this thing is yet to be added right?

[long bloom]

yes

probably

the vast majority of lore content isn't actually in the game yet :clueles

[pulsar ocean]

fish like to swim

[cosmic zenith]

I wish making all items canonically part of the world and properly contextualized wasn't impossible

[long bloom]

murasama exists bc draedon played mgrr clearly

[cosmic zenith]

If I ever become a programmer and/or assenble a team, I'm gonna make the most loreful mod ever

[limpid saddle]

why not just make a game at that point

[cosmic zenith]

Making a game is a lot harder than making a mod

[tropic oak]

calamity story mode

[real silo]

hirant